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Which Gen is the strongest within Hololive?

I don't mean neccesary numbers but how solid the entire gen is by the quality they put out together. Like making original songs, collabing with eachother, doing fun projects together and doing anything unique. Just how much they shine within all Hololive.
Also how strong their personalities are along how united they are with their genmates.

>> No.11916844

>>11916795
I'd say 5th gen

>> No.11917102

>>11916844
Gen 5 is over a year old now but I remember seeing a clip 5 months in or something like that where Polka talks about not really being close to Lamy, barely talking to eachother. It was so long ago so I think it was something like that. I hope their relationship is better now though.

>> No.11917372

In terms of internal chemistry it's Gen 5--Polka/Lamy is the weakest link but they're still easily the closest-knit due to both having had extra time together pre-debut and the loss of Aloe helping bring them together.

In terms of individual star power it's between Gen 3 and Myth obviously.

>> No.11917382

>>11916795
gen 3

>> No.11917560

>>11917372
I agree fully, both Gen 3 and Myth have very strong members, even when some of them do not vibe with eachother as much as with others but in the end of the day all of them being good friends and strong talents.

>> No.11917597
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>>11916795
Easily Gen 3

>> No.11917663

Gen 3 and it's not even close

>> No.11917684

>>11916795
5th gen by far imo.

>> No.11917757

Gen 3 obviously

>> No.11917785

>>11916795
As far as collective output and synergy it will be like this:
Gen3>SMOK>NePoLaBo>Myth

Myth don't do a lot of stuff except the TTRPG and that one collab song. They do collab streams sure but the rest do as well and more frequently. NePoLaBo released 4 group cover songs. That's synergy right there. Myth's collab are usually just done by one person. Either Ame or Kiara.

>> No.11917801

gen 0 - let's just say there's a reason it nearly failed
gen 1 - was good in its day, declined severely; one, arguably two still relevant members
gen 2 - aqua and subaru are still doing well, everyone else is effectively part-time or irrelevant
gen 3 - the ultimate vtubing generation, saved hololive
gen 4 - completely dead now that coco is gone
gen 5 - mediocrity incarnate

>> No.11917932

Gen 0 has both Suisei and Miko who are top tiers, if you added both of them to any Gen that isn’t 5 or 3 they’d contend them with. As it is, it’s between those two. 3 and 5 are just too strong.

>> No.11918328

>>11917801
>>11917932
>gen 0
They're not a gen.

>> No.11918432

>>11917801
>>11917932
Gen 0 is just a fan name for girls with no gen newfags

>> No.11918563

>>11916795
Holostars Gen 3

>> No.11918624

>>11917785
I can't decide if you're judging the unity of the gen amongst each other, or the overall content creation of the generation because those are two completely different things.

>> No.11918685

>>11916795
Fantasy and Myth

>> No.11918815

>>11916795
5th gen is universally beloved, or else Lamy will call her yakuza family to have you disappeared.

>> No.11918853

>>11917801
>gen 0
You know Miko debuted after 1st gen, right?

>> No.11918962

>>11916795
Holo ID
https://youtu.be/lFQW5S_xH1o

>> No.11919037

>>11918853
anon, I...

>> No.11919116 [DELETED] 

>>11916795
If the gens were DBZ Characters:

Gen 0 - Piccolo
Gen 1 - Vegeta
Gen 2 - Tien
Gen 3 - Whis
Gen 4 - Goku
Gen 5 - Gohan

EN1 - Jiren
EN2 - Frieza

ID1 - Yamcha
ID2 - King Kai

>> No.11919118

>>11916795
I feel like 4 was the strongest one tho the lost pretty substantial powerhouse so dunno. Still, i feel like they all have some interesting and unique skills making them stand out more than other groups to me.

>> No.11919169

>>11917801
Mostly agree with this but I find gen 4 a lot more mediocre than gen 5. Coco's absence just made it glaringly obvious that outside of Watame's music endeavors none of them worked nearly as hard as the dragon.

Gen 5 got overshadowed early on by Myth but today they have extremely dedicated followings. It surprises me that Nene ended up being the most charismatic of them all since I totally overlooked her on debut.

>> No.11919206 [DELETED] 

>>11918432
They called themselves Gen 0 after being sad they didn't have their own genmates like everyone else in Hololive. It's pretty much official, they even did a collab together to seal the deal.

>> No.11919483

>>11916795
Gen4(w/ Coco)>Myth=Gen3>Gen4(w/o Coco)>En2>Gen5>Gen1=Gen2>Gen0>ID1>ID2

>> No.11919515

>>11916795
Gen 3 and it isn't even close.

>> No.11919523 [DELETED] 

>>11919483
Coco wasn't that strong. She averaged less than 10k viewers before her graduation announcement. She was influential but she wasn't a monster like Pekora or Marine are

>> No.11919633

Gamers.
Fubuki, Korone, Okayu, Mio.
Seriously it's just the most solid & cohesive gen. The internal bonds are extremely strong. Some of the most kino collab groups of SMOK and SENPAITACHI are just Gamers + friends. Korone and Fubuki were both the first JP members to reach 1 million subs. Okakoro is the best ship. Gamers also has a variety of content while still feeling cohesive, in addition for covering a lot of stream times to watch from morning streams with Mio to streams into late late night with Korone. In terms of a "generation" it really is the most that feels like a generation and not just random individual talents thrown together. By far the best and most consistent overall quality generation, even if there are better individual talents in other gens.

>> No.11919638

>>11916795
gen4. they mostly keep to themselves but coco-...... uh, um... gen3 seems pretty close and they bounce off each other well

>> No.11919710

>>11919633
F. A M S* not SENPAITACHI ... I always get fucked when I type the ancronym but never remember fuck the autocorrects desu

>> No.11919756

>>11917372
Myth isn't even in the same league as Gen 3.

>> No.11919761

Gen 3 with Gamers as a close second. There's at least one member in every gen that I enjoy, though

>> No.11919808

>>11919756
You're right, Myth is leagues above Gen 3

>> No.11919870

>>11916795
5th - strongest bond
3rd - strongest numbers and entertainment

>> No.11919917

>Objective Gen rankings:
Gen 3
Gen 5
Gamers
Gen 4
Gen 1
EN Myth
ID 2
EN Council
ID 1
Gen 2

>> No.11919922

I didn't want to make a new thread just to ask this but who won the super gay autistic /vt/ tournament?

>> No.11920012

Anon really loves to overrate coco's number huh. She has strong SC but her viewership is nowhere close to the top. And gen 4 synergy isn't really that strong yes you can get coco+kanata or coco+ watame but the other 2 is always left behind.

>> No.11920187 [DELETED] 

Gen 3 has too many monsters for it to be anyone else.
Gamers is close, but not quite close enough for me to hesitate. Having Pekora, Rushia, and Marine in one gen is genuinely unfair for this type of comparison. Flare and Noel both bring their own weight to the table on top of that, and the only reason those two don't stand out is because their genmates are monsters among monsters; either one would be kicking ass at the top of the pack in most other gens for one reason or another.

So yeah, 三期生最高

>> No.11920203

>>11919633
This. Others Gens and EN groups are strong and have their moments, but I feel like Gamers is on a different level. Take the recent Mio birthday stream with all of them, perfect chemistry with just themselves.
Little off topic from OP, but just 1 or 2 Gamers mixed with any other members almost always elevates any collab from good to great, which says a lot for them as a gen

>> No.11920210

>>11918624
>how solid the entire gen is by the quality they put out together. Like making original songs, collabing with eachother, doing fun projects together and doing anything unique.
The anon is asking about content creation put out as a group and how synegized they are as a unit. Gen3 is always top as far as synergy. Their banter and collabs are just pure entertainment. GAMERS/SMOK is second. Anything they do together just shows how much they know each other. They do a lot together as a unit as far as group collabs goes. NePoLaBo is pretty much put together when it comes to content and synegy but with lower numbers compared to Gen3. Myth while does stuff together is sporadic not until TTRPG became a thing.

>> No.11920258

imagine picking myth rumao
its clearly gen 3 and gen 5

>> No.11920458 [DELETED] 

>>11920210
This is true. Gen 3 collabs are rare but when they happen they're always incredible. I love to see them have as much retarded fun as they do. I think the fact that a lot of their members are more reclusive and shy during other collabs tends to make how comfortable they are around each other really stand out. Especially evident with Rushia and Pekora, but even Noel and Flare get caught up in an energy they maybe would be calmer without.

Gen 3 collabs are essentially more than the sum of their parts, which is hard to do, and especially hard to do and say that each member is responsible for causing(for example Mio or Subaru make a collab better than what you'd think because of both being a great tsukkomi in different ways, but that's them pulling extra weight regardless of everybody else).
I think it's safe to assume that anybody who watches any member of Gen 3 is excited when there's a full gen collab announced.

>> No.11923340

>>11919917
your hatred for Ayame is clouding your vision.

>> No.11924323

>>11916795
So far I would say Gen 3, Gen 5 and Myth have strongest internal chemistry.

>> No.11924510

>>11919483
>I just wanna subtly insult Coco, and forgot OP question.

>> No.11927022

>>11916795
3

>> No.11932409
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Gen 3 tops all of them in terms of overall chemistry, performance, variety and popularity.
Flare is so lucky to be in this gen since even if she turns into a literal 2view, her genmates will save her ass through collab, merch and promotions.

>> No.11933402

>>11919710
>autocorrects
>desu
kek

>> No.11933441

>>11919633
Gamers is actually Okayu's hag harem

>> No.11933490

Myth and Sankisei, obviously

>> No.11933534

>>11919116
Correct me if I'm wrong. Powerlevels are bs anyway
Whis>Jiren>Goku>Frieza>Vegeta>Gohan>Piccolo>King Kai>Tien>Yamcha

Who's Krillin? CN?

>> No.11933815

>>11933534
Krillin is Myth. He's good in his own sphere, but is absolutely mogged in the big picture.

>> No.11933867

>>11933815
He posted myth as Jiren

>> No.11933924

>>11933867
his list is terrible.

>> No.11933960

>>11933924
You really think Myth is weaker than gens 0,1,2,4,5?

>> No.11933982

>>11919116
>DBZ
>Whis
>Jiren
I hate powerlevel animefags... so much....

>> No.11934035

>>11933982
outside of subs, they are very middle ground in a lot of metrics.

>> No.11934118

Gen 1 could've been something so much more than it is now... It could've been such a sight for eyes to behold.. Alas, we don't always get what we want.
Without chammers and friend, that Gen would be on par with; may the lord forgive me for what I'm about to say, the IDs.

>> No.11934259

>>11917102
It was a badly translated clip. It was "I want to be closer to Lamy" like, they're really good friend but not ShishiLamy level.

>>11919917
I'd put Myth above gen 1, but the rest is accurate. Good job anon

>> No.11937323

>>11919116
Tien for gen 2? u do realize aqua is gen 2 and mogs most holos right?

>> No.11938066

>>11934118
One used to be great though.
>pre-Apex Festival
>Fubuki
>Haachama
>Aki (even though she had no numbers, she was entertaining and still is now)

>> No.11938208

Gen3>Gamers>Gen5=Myth(nowadays)>Stars2>Gen4=Gen2=Gen0>Stars3>Council>ID1=Stars1>ID2>CN2>CN1
Based on cohesion. Based on quality,
Gen0>Stars2>>Gen3>>>>>all

>> No.11938283

>>11938208
>Based on cohesion
>Stars and IDs that low
you know that ID1 girls used to live in the same house right? Much better cohesively than Gen 1 where no one gives a shit about each other

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>>11916795
Gen 4 make their debuts, hololive miraculously gets a boosts and skyrockets in popularity, nijisanjj gets buried in the dust. Must I say the best gen? Yes. Undoubtedly so.

>> No.11938988
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>>11916795
The only reason hololive became relevant was because of Kiryu Coco. I dare you to watch any hololive collabs that came out before Coco existed. Utter garbage. Without Coco, hololive wouldn't be pandering to Overseas-niki. Their Superchat revenue would still be Animare/.LIVE level. And nijisanji would still be number 1 Vtuber group iin the "world".
>Which is the best gen?
Gen 4 because of Coco. Yagoo agrees. Kuzuha agrees. And every hololive member agrees. Those are the facts. Go argue with a wall.

>> No.11939743

>>11938988
>Gen 4 because of Coco
Literally disproving your own point
You know OP said "I don't mean necessary numbers but how solid the entire gen is" "how united they are with their genmares"
If all you can say is "Coco" then gen 4 isn't the strongest gen. You mentioned no other gen members. Gen 4 is a weak gen. Everyone who says Gen 4 is blinded by liking an individual talent in it. The only time Gen 4 felt like a gen worthy of the name was because of Kanata's genius with Coco's graduation song. Otherwise no. It's not the strongest gen. And Hololive would've gained reddit popularity and clip algorithim popularity and Corona without Coco anyway. Azur Lane collab + Scatman, the Hololive subreddit was already one of the most "active" communities per sub base before Coco ever recognized it. Hololive's success was going to happen without Coco anyway. She did contribute to it. But by this logic Fubuki's gen (so Gen 1 or Gamers) should be the one that's strongest because she contributed most to its success and surviving to the point it got popular. Anyway, main point, Gen 4 isn't the strongest in terms of being a gen and you're delusional for thinking so.

>> No.11940139

>>11939743
Don't reply to bait anon, the guy clearly couldn't read.
But I would have to agree with you. In my opinion members like Miko or Fubuki made Hololive known with their clips floating around. Coco helped a lot to kinda unite that gap between hololive and people who didn't know anything at all about them, besides being able to speak english helped a lot for people to connect with her and the entire world of hololive.

Coco was a massive lost but thanks to her EN happened, Myth being one of the strongest gens, gaining 1 million subs each in less than a year but also a huge bond between them. Mori talked how scary it was since they were a new thing all together in hololive but I really think that made the 5 of them very strong. Each of them are a power house but together even more so.

>> No.11941311

>>11938066
Aki is absurdly underrated, but I feel like she's not very innovative outside of 3D and music. If she can dance or work on quirky and creative music videos then she golden, but outside of that she's just a cute streamer, which is great, but it doesn't really show her power. Hopefully with the coof controlled next year she can work on more 3D streams and 3D content.

>> No.11941398

>>11919169
This, without Coco gen 4 is nothing

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