/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

I miss her already haatonchamas......

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187341
She will come back even stronger than before

[Anonymous No.]

You could wait for her for three weeks, you can for her even longer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187341
Same...not even one fucking day but the uncertainty is awful. I do want her to be happy but my own stupid selfishness wants more time with her.

[Anonymous No.]

So what's gonna happen?
Will she be back but no more story arc, she'll just be playing or singing whatever the others are doing?
It was creative if nothing else

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187341
Look on the bright side, Gura is still going strong and on track to 3M

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187444
haato cannot go back to doing simple holoshit. she will just create new projects

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187522
She truly is the strongest idol
I look forward to whatever she's got cooking up next

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187581
If she is the strongest, she wouldn't have to take a fucking break. SHE WAS FORCED TO TAKE A BREAK. IT IS AN UNOFFICIAL SUSPENSION.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187740
I think it just means she's too strong for them

[Anonymous No.]

Haatons... Haachama hasn't tweeted or retweeted anything since her last post........

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187879
You're breaking my big red heart..

[Anonymous No.]

So I garner that the Haachama cosplay contest is cancelled?

[Anonymous No.]

>Haachama is strapped to a chair and being beat up by Cover management RIGHT NOW

[Anonymous No.]

What is mean!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187997
heard there were some rrats here

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187997
You mean sexually abused

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187997
Haachama's head typed this post

[Anonymous No.]

seem holo have a rule what should suffer least one member every month.

[Anonymous No.]

She is my Oshi and I will support her forever. I wish I had some way to support her without giving Cover any $ though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1188977
Who was last month?

[Anonymous No.]

I just really hope that they won't break her and she is still going to do what she loves and won't surrender to company standards.
As for now I will just numb my pain with some seal Nene memes

[Anonymous No.]

>>1189110
pekora peko

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187341
I've been in the hospital for like 9 days did they take down some of her stuff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1189264
tldr: new "rules" or management or youtube has told her to stop the haachama/haato arc hours before the conclusion stream. Most of the vods are privated. She apologized and said she's going away for a bit. Check her twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1189264
The entire chuuni arc

[Anonymous No.]

>>1189328
>>1189341
Oh just what I need YT finally jumping the shark.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1189106
Cover AND Youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1189153
QRD on rrats? I didn't know about this

[Anonymous No.]

>>1189534
sorry it happened january.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187997
Haachama is strapped to a chair with a Hitachi magic wand on FULL BLAST and is FORCED to orgasm MULTIPLE times until she begs for forgiveness

[Anonymous No.]

>>1189786

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>>1189448
>YT finally jumping the shark.
>Finally

Been that way since the burger elections man, and its only gonna get worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187341
I can't believe Cover killed her and livestreamed the whole thing.

[Anonymous No.]

What will Haato's first comeback stream be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1190560
No archive singing

[Anonymous No.]

It'd be great if she came back with even greater variety. That might be a little too optimistic though. Realistically her first return stream will be minecraft.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1189861
It all started in 2015 when Donny was curbstomping the manlets running against him at in the primaries.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187879
Her roomate isn't posting either, so I bet they're both taking a social medial break for a few days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1189861
Anon youtube jumped the shark like...pretty much as soon as they lost that lawsuit and were forced to build an algorithm that banned virtually all copyrighted content. That shit predates Hololive. Since then their algorithm has gone out of control and they've admitted they don't know how to control it or even how it works anymore. Hololive wasting their time trying to appease The Algorithm is futile because it's basically getting more harsh and arbitrary every day.

If Cover don't have some plan to transition away from Youtube at some point they're a dead company walking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1191492
I hope so. I love her singing streams, archive or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1191492
No archive singing offcollab with Coco as a fuck you to management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1191846
Given the numbers both girls pull when singing, why would that bother them? Cover management aren't saints but they're also not the black company some rrats hallucinate about either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1191998
There's no money from unarchived streams anon. Numbers are irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1192014
Superchats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1192023
Superchats are turned off in unarchived streams because they can't reference them later to read them out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1192034
Not on Haachama's channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1192074
She might just forget to turn them off or just not care as usual. They're supposed to turn them off. Not just because they can't read them but because it can get them in trouble I think.

Coco's streaming unarchived karaoke right now with superchats turned off for example.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't get why now? Youtube hasn't put any new rules in recently enough to kill this thing and surely she must have talked about what she's doing with her manager before hand. Hell even if she didn't why on earth would her manager let it go on for about a month just to put a stop to it a day before the final video? I know holo management is notoriously incompetent but surely not to this level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1192123
>>1192074
I guess they might be supposed to switch them off for tax purposes since you can't verify it later, or to divy up the money if you assume it goes into one account and is split up on payday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1189856
I can hear the gif

[Anonymous No.]

>>1192875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNDNKma3mFU&ab_channel=CMT

[Anonymous No.]

>>1191492
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXhEz3hqlQE&ab_channel=Totej

[Anonymous No.]

Poor poor Haachama. Here's hoping that when she comes back from her break she'll put out even better content than her chuuni arc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187341
I fucking miss her bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>1191736
link for roommate twitter account please

[Anonymous No.]

>>1189328
Why? Its a silly side gag, why remove the streams?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1195875
Youtube is retarded. Go figure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187341
I do too my man. I just really fucking like this sweet, crazyass girl and want the best for her.
Is this what having an oshi feels like?

[Anonymous No.]

Why Haachama is different than other chuubas:
She shares her lewd art on stream
She has this schizo arc
She cooks repulsive shit on stream
She constantly posts and uses fan-made content on her twitter, thumbnails and streams
She loves her haatons


Name me 1 other chuuba that does all of the above.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187341
Good, better a couple of days than a month because of her "look at me, i'm insane and that it's funny, hehehehe" videos.
She playing MC is much more interesting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1195964
I think Haatonbro. I didn't realize until this happened just how emotionally invested I was in her. Now I just feel empty. I'm hoping this was a youtube thing (as doubtful as I am on that) and she continues having fun making her weird content

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196008
You do fucking realize it's creativity right? Art students do all kinds of retarded shit to explore their creativity and doing creepyshit like this is one of them. Creepy shit pulls more viewers because people want to watch something out of the ordinary, and haachama is one of them. She doesn't want to be the average boring MC playing chuuba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196007
Why other chuuba should love haatons?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196048
And is the kind that gets you demonetized or banned in youtube.
Other holos were banned there for less than she did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196077
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9lmvX00TLY&feature=youtu.be

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187341
We stood 3 weeks without her, we can do this.

Prepare for pouring absurds amounts of love and support when she comes back like the goddamn strongest idol she is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196217
>We stood 3 weeks without her, we can do this.
True, but this is different. So many of her videos have been nuked and its clear she's being denied of her passion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196246
Yes, but unfortunately we can't do anything about it.

Our role here is to overflow her with love and support when she comes back. She will find a way to keep doing what she loves, she always does. Poor management isn't enough to stop the strongest idol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196246
Being insane isn't passion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196299
zhang has nothing better to do than be an anti

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196299
So all those actors and actresses playing deranged murderers or schizos on screen are insane? I want you to think about what you posted for a fucking second.

[Anonymous No.]

Chama will return stronger than before because she is the most powerful idol

[Anonymous No.]

>>1189106
Don't know how holo's contract goes, but in niji's the membership is 100% going to the streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196419
I do, only Haato made a series of videos faking be insane.
The others are insane in stream.

>>1196378
I'm not shitting in Cover, I'm shitting in Haato, chink.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196422
I mean, realistically speaking, she'll be neutered and her streams will just be painful to watch Just like Gura's streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>1190560
Minecraft for sleep, pls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196479
>haato fakes being insane
>others don't fake, they actually are
Take your meds, schizo chink

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196471
Niji's get most of their income from merch though whereas holo's get most from super chats so that's where cover takes their cut. Coco's mentioned before how much they take and I think she said 30% of what's left once google takes 30%

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196471
>>1196536
I've seen the values 30% Yt / 35% Cover / 35% Talents being mentioned multiple times

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196536
>YT 30%
>Cover 40%
So every $100 you supacha, your oshi only gets $30? That fucking sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

I miss them all

[Anonymous No.]

archive (still uploading all videos): https://archive.org/details/HaachamaVSHaatoARK

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196641

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196577
half that after tax.
a good estimate is the holo only ends up with 15 to 25% of the income they make after ALL the other cuts are taken (tax, youtube, cover).

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196577
Anon it's a company, the successful ones need to sustain the ones who are struggling too, but memberships should definitely go only to that specific streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196577

YT 30%, Cover 30% AFTER that, so its more like your oshi gets $50.

That assumes that the numbers are accurate and the same across the board - we do know that different Holos have different contracts.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196580
I need more lolichama in my life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196705
$30 after tax.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196720
t. degenelate

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196717

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196927

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187341
God, this is killing me on the inside. I wish Cover would just explain the fuck is going on

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187341
The world's strongest idol will come back, stronger than ever. Enma is already panicking, for she knows she has poked the beast with a short stick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196021
I'm in the same boat. I enjoyed how she tried something new with the schizo arc and now just hope she's ok and can return to doing what she wants or whatever makes her happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196479
And Chinks were already anti-Haato for all the same reasons they were Anti-Coco, they both spoke english, they both mentioned Taiwan, the only reason Coco got more attention was because she's from the US so they could add the "duh American pigdogs are corrupting muh Jap idol show reeeee" shit to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196021
I never pay a membership for any streamers or vtubers before. But I swear to god, the moment she come back I would drown her with SC and membership

[Anonymous No.]

>>1197325
She deserves it. But the fact that Cover takes 30% of your money is too fucking unfair for me. I'll member her but i will never supacha her unless she goes indie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1197357
Fair point, I’ll member her then. I’ll say this now, Cover don’t deserve Haato

[Anonymous No.]

ID's probably make a similar amount to JPs because they use stream labs so they get 70% of their earnings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1197325
Membership her now anon. I'm maintaining mine even though she's dealing with Cover's bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

Pls, explain to an orbiter who doesn't give enough of a fuck about vtubers what the fuck is Haachama's deal and story or where is a good place to read about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1197357
That's actually a pretty fair amount, to be honest. Even after Youtube and Cover's cut they still got about 60% of the total income left.

Remember those networks that Youtubers used to join years ago? Some of those took *much* bigger cuts, like 60% and more.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>1197540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brx3TikoO_s

[Anonymous No.]

Why aren't the other holos commenting or talking about this? Was Anya the only one to wish Haachama well on her break?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1197645
SMOK were talking about haachama, but I`m a filthy EOP so no idea what

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196498
>Spoiler
>The only two holos I actually care about are being stifled
I legit feel like shit about this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1197682
I'll have to check that out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187879

[Anonymous No.]

What are nips saying about this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1197541
i thought youtube takes something like 30% as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1197541
Youtube taking 30% seems to be the only consistent # I'm seen. The streamers take seems to either be 30-35% of the total or 30-35% of what is left following youtube taking their cut. All pretax as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1197924
Youtube takes 30%, Cover 30% of what's left after that, the rest is for the talent.

But from what I've read the girls also get 100% of the income from merchandise, so in the end they still get a nice chunk of money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1198183
>But from what I've read the girls also get 100% of the income from merchandise, so in the end they still get a nice chunk of money.
Can I buy an official Haachama daki anywhere?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196299
Passion is insanity with focus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1198252
Not that I know of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1198183
They surely don't get 100% Merchandising income considering that merch is always one of the biggest earners and they need to make compensation deals with companies to use hololive likenesses for models, shirts, and etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1197880
>someone asked in the futaba cultural exchange thread, the jp dude said they are split between angry at management (minority) and sad but willing to cheer on and support the chama (majority)

[Anonymous No.]

>>1199746
I expect no less from the dickless jap community.

[Anonymous No.]

Any tips on how to cope?

[Anonymous No.]

I don't

[Anonymous No.]

realistically all we can do is keep an eye on her twitter, shower her in love when she returns, not sure what else.
This soured my impression on Cover a lot (for canning it before the ending, and either for fucking up, or for not being transparent) but there's nothing that can be done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187522
>she will just create new projects
Yeah, with Cover's approval and monitoring and the power to shut her project down immediately if they feel it did not conform to their 'standards'.
Is it worth it though?

[Anonymous No.]

It's okay Haatons. Haato will be back and she'll be stronger then she's ever been before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1200912
Just how strong the strongest idol can get?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1201196
She can only get stronger anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1200482
Their 'standards' are just not allowing their talent to being a dumbass who risks getting their channel terminated just to please you schizos. Now go stir up shit on a chuuba I dont give a fuck about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1198183
>the girls also get 100% of the income from merchandise
>tfw no official 2XL Haachama shirts

[Anonymous No.]

>>1202437
>2XL
I hope you bench at least 315, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187341
It's okay, she's currently away permanently solving the management problem. Once she's back she'll be able to do whatever she wants forever

[Anonymous No.]

>>1203400
for 3 reps yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>1200482
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1202367
Well said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196246
>Laughs in geometric shapes
Joking aside regardless of what happens take care of her even if she stops being Hacchama and Haato she'll still be the same crazy person.

[Anonymous No.]

>Starts streaming suddenly
>speaking perfect aussie english
>she sounds depressed
>says she will always remember her time in hololive with positivity
>'I love you all so much'
>You realize she's serious
>a wall of red superchats begging her to stay
>she starts to cry
>does one last "Hachaama-chama!" through the tears
>'gomenasai, i'm so sorry evewyone'
>ends the steam
>no music
>twitter already deleted
>channel deleted only a few hours later

[Anonymous No.]

>>1204378
Not even a haaton, but if haachama leaves over this I'm stepping away from vtubers for a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1204378
why would you post this

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196683
Why does everyone mention tax? When people talk about wage or salary you never talk about "after tax".

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187341
Don't you have another SoundCloud track to make?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1204378
>>1204440
Why not inform Hololive of your disappointment instead? Sufficient deterrence might spare others from suffering the same fate if properly distributed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187740
She probably wasn't forced to, I bet she's upset that Cover decided to ruin her narrative that she was building for months at the finale. Anyone would be pissed if it happened to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1204378
fuck you

[Anonymous No.]

>holomoms starts getting big
>haachamom wants to try
>starts watching content to get ready
>realizes daughter is autistic
>finds out about depression issues
>now her daughter is developing a dissociative personality disorder
>suddenly drastically worsens
>threatening a final "big" conclusion
>haachamom panics and admits daughter to a mental institution and it will be 2mo before we hear from her again

Cover just doing damage control by logging onto her account and claiming its a break, it's worse than we thought anons

[Anonymous No.]

>>1206070
Thanks for the rrat, now I can hide myself from reality.

[Anonymous No.]

Congratulations this is officially the dumbest thread in /vt/ history

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187341

>comes back
>plays minecraft and undertale everyday until the newest flavor of the month safe game shows up for her and the rest of the girls to play
>stops all sort of creativity and tones everything down
>becomes the next Matsuri

[Anonymous No.]

I've not watched another stream since they did this. Nor do I intend to.
has anyone else even mentioned this let alone supported her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1206189
I have seen dumber threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1206243
Please stop making me feel bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1206247
they would if she wasn't just on a break retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>1206247
Don't worry, I subscriber to her again after they did this and watched some of her old videos to compensate.
Glad that the schizo arc is over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1190560
Apex

[Anonymous No.]

>>1206243
Sounds good to me.
Maybe she will do something more interesting after her break other than being mentally ill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187516
For some reason I can't force myself to watch Gura even after she said some pretty wholesome things acting with humblness and respect for her senpai I almost feel bad but she feels too much like a normal english twitch streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1206335
You know Gura watches what's going on and she's afraid it's only a matter of time before they reject and abandon her like everyone else. So she will toe the corporate line while she withers and dies inside. Eight hour streams a day constantly suppressing the parts of her that makes us live her. Until she's a dead soulless husk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1206243
holy shit how about you do the entire world a favor and go kill yourself you insufferable doomnigger jesus fucking christ

[Anonymous No.]

>>1206318

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>>1205072
Didn't she take a week break after they've ruined her wet Ring Fit stream? Would be weird to suspend her officially or not without any backlash, remember they're actually losing money if she doesn't stream and people don't donate their shekels. I wonder what she meant by that "new rules" though is it youtube-related or some purely internal Cover guidelines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1206548
Poor Haaton...

[Anonymous No.]

>>1204378
Shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196536
Niji doesn't seem to allow spacha on most of their streams but actually it's said that the most effective way to support a liver is through buying their voice packs, when shiba was in financial trouble it was what her manager recomended.
It's not like Hololive doesn't use all of this ways of milking money out of virgins on top of record-breaking superchats the argument was more relevant back when niji was still comperable or bigger in terms of subs but holo is pretty established at this point even if they don't have Sony money behind them.

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>>1192230
She said "it would be difficult to finish" so it doesn't seem like it was actually done and to be fair her series so far was mostly based on fan submissions, making something completely original and unexpected would take more time, perhaps copyrighted content was an issue.
She's also not the greatest diplomat, perhaps there was a solution like posting it on a different platform like NND but neither her nor her manager were actually smart enough to propose it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1206243

That's the worst possible outcome

[Anonymous No.]

>>1206290
Even if they hadn't put her on break, the schizo arc was supposed to be fully over yesterday

[Anonymous No.]

>>1202367
>claims to give a fuck about Haato
>doesn't support her project she poured months of hard work into and justifies her getting fucked over by soulless managers
ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187341
Its over bros...
She was OUR meme, r/hololive doesn't even give a shit about her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1202367
she put hours of work and money into her project and instead lost it all. all those videos were making her money and they actually fucked her. I would actually quit if that was me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1190560
hentai review

[Anonymous No.]

>>1208132
the reason she doesn't quit is all of us

[Anonymous No.]

>>1206070
>>threatening a final "big" conclusion
>>haachamom panics
I could believe this part, something like "we're worried if she's going to do something horrible to herself" situation for management so they panik'd and went full shut-it-down mode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1202367
Yeah it might be. But my issue is that if they didn't like it Hololive could have stepped in much sooner. People would still throw a shit fit but it wouldn't be anything like this. Just another day for incompetent Yagoo.

[Anonymous No.]

Anons, haachama isn`t as big a schizo as any of (You).. She knew what she was doing, and that she could get either a strike, shadowban or an earful from management (or all of them together) with each new video. Don`t go assuming she`s devastated now because she couldn`t finish it, she might be frustrated that it stopped one day from her true(?) end, but she`ll bounce back as she always does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1206070
ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>1206243
>becomes the next Matsuri

I don't see her developing lethal Apex addiction any time soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1208474
This. She's not a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1208474
Sasuga Strongest Idol Will Come Back With A Vengeance

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187341
Where on earth did that game she showed on stream go? I can't find a video of it anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1212132
The one that was with Haachama and Ina, not the other one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1212222
Never mind I wasted fucking quads on a question I found the answer to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1206412
Its happening. I looked at the chat today, its like watching a kiddie streamer. I detected no trace of the hololive I know and love in the humor or the entertainment. Enma is sucking the life out of EN, and I think Gura will be the first to go.

She couldn't even hit 20k in today's stream. The recline continues.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1208474
I believe

[Anonymous No.]

>>1204978
Not him, but already did. if she steps down over this I will only watch Miko from now on, and to hell with Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1212483
Ogey.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1212537
rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>1208474
Exactly! Correct me if I'm wrong but I really doubt it has anything to do with YT this time but if so then she could've move everything to membership only stream and it still would've been fine. She doesn't has to private everything like this. I truly think that Haato is the most creative talent in all of Hololive that constrained by Cover and management incompetency.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1193142

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>>1206243
Matuli is dead inside. She's as boring as aki at this point

[Anonymous No.]

I thought AWAY was for the pepeloni...

[Anonymous No.]

>>1213325
It's for all the happiness in our lives anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>1213361
More like of her wallet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1204378
I hate you. Why did you post this

[Anonymous No.]

>>1204378
This makes me feel every emotion I never wanted to feel. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1190560
like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkpaxmqMLH4

[Anonymous No.]

>>1214979
I'd actually cry and at least take a long break from vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>1204378

[Anonymous No.]

>>1214979
Lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1190560
Haachama cooking long pig with gyoza

[Anonymous No.]

>>1190560
"Haato" with a text to speech voice will be playing Tsugi no Hi and you WILL like it

[Anonymous No.]

>>1204378
I wonder if anyone has ever cried at a /vt/ greentext

[Anonymous No.]

>>1215646
(You)

[Anonymous No.]

>>1212519
Haachama promised that we will see her soon and that she plans to finish her series some day when it's possible so it doesn't seem like she's planning to quit not to mention how unlikely it would be for a creator with 1 million+ subs and the fact that she probably doesn't have many friends in nippon outside of holos. Hololive is more than a business.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>1212638
Membership-only or unarchived stream won't save you from the algorithm, it really depends what did she plan for the grand finale because it was probably supposed to be more out there than bdsm ASMR or her lewd reviews (still up there) if the idea was to fuck herself on stream with a dildo for the story to acchieve it's climax I can see why Cover would come to stop it and I feel like she was on edge of doing something really H ever since she first bought that lube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1217432
>the fact that she probably doesn't have many friends in nippon outside of holos
Isn't this pretty much every hololive member who isn't subaru?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1189328
What's the basis for it YouTubes fault? Most of the guidelines are the exact same as last year. They really took a month to freak out about 1 year old rules?

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>>1217773
Chama's case is special since she's been out of japan for quite a long time and I'm not really sure if she feels in the right place after coming back.

Anyway remember how she wanted to join Holo EN as a bit? Perhaps it was foreshadowing about her problems with JP management since EN side is actually a different thing in terms of culture etc. where they don't even have generations apparently. Holo EN was pretty milk toast in comparison to what Haato & Coco did in the past so far though. Anyway youtube is actually seriously fucking with Kiara atm and Suitan was only recently re-monetized so it's hard to say that managment is oversensitive and should let Haato do whatever crazy thing she want's because it would be just fine perhaps they should just come up with alternative solutions like posting it on twitch or NND so it wouldn't impact her income even if it's too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1219585
We know she didnt have many friends (at all) in Australia, so in japan she at least has the holohouse who showered her with love recently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX85COf8808
Watame also was worried about Chammers during the schizo arc, and Miko spills her spaghetti about her from time to time.

If anything, as you said it could be management problems, or having a hard time adapting to japanese culture again. The whole Suisei demonetization and Kiara shadowbanning doesnt help either, maybe she got some kind of notice from youtube, or one of the videos got TOS'd, and cover got scared enough to can the whole arc thing.
Considering how they handle Gura, Coco, and on the other hand holoID, maybe they control more the talents the closer they are to the top.

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>>1208132
She was the one who was always putting borderline adult content on her channel. Obviously someone reported her enough times for Youtube to send her a violation warning. She has already been demonetized before and she didn't learn her lesson. The next strike would have been a channel deletion, which in her business is a death flag. Honestly, a break for her is good because it will give her time to work on stuff and she can distance herself from the trouble she's in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1187341
got get a girlfriend faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>1220035
Haato is my girlfriend.

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>>1219753
Didn't one of her lore videos got removed by youtube for TOS violations? The rrat is that then the management privated everything related to the schizo arc

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>>1206243
She should just quit then. There is literally no point in being a chuuba if you're suffering inside.

[Anonymous No.]

Why would you NOT allow your employed idols the freedom to explore their interests and find their niche? Do they really prefer the safe and boring approach of flavor of the month projects instead of a cast of genuinely varied interests and skills?

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>>1220411
The waiting room was removed cuz she used this as the thumbnail which seems to happen somewhat often to other holos too. She still did the stream (horror contest).

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>>1220510
The problem was the head cut off/hanging body thing. Obviously a DDLC reference but someone allegedly flagged it for violating Youtube's self harm rule. It's more youtube's issue than cover's.

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>>1220825
I think at this point anyone who doesn't know how badly mismanaged youtube is, is a really sheltered individual.
It's amazing it's even still up.

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>>1187341
What did she do this time?

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>>1220750
Not that one but one of her older videos

[Anonymous No.]

The doomposting here is out of this world, jesus christ.

[Anonymous No.]

Seriously what is the point of superchatting in the first place? I don’t want my money going to jewtube or Cover they’re both terrible. Haachama tries to be creative and do new things and she gets shit on for it. While most of the other members do the most boring content and get rewarded for it

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>>1220825
Hanging bodies existed before DDLC anon

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>>1220825
So how come gameplays from DDLC with said scene are okay, clips from anime with gore and shit are okay, but making similar animation by Vtuber is not okay? It's bullshit, and if it was really violating any rule they'd take it down way faster

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>>1221299
it's technically okay because it's fictional and doesn't really try to encourage; HOWEVER, you can see how smart the yt banning bot is when they demonetize suisei for weeks because she had a title about killing people in gta; or terminating, shadowbanning and now deleting all Kiara's 2month+ old videos for nobody knows why.

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>>1221369
I don't believe it's youtube. The hanging is a red herring.
Why would the lewd reviews stay, and the normal minecraft be removed?

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>>1222344
Not taking any sides here but youtube is basically moderated like shit.
They don't have nearly enough employees to check every report so it's automated. And the AI is retarded.

Explicit nudity often stays up. Violence can fly under the radar. The triggerhappy AI only gets you by either:

>Pure chance
>Someone reported you

[Anonymous No.]

>haato suspended/break, no public internet activity
>won't even be able to call at miko's birthday
pain...

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>>1222444
this reeks of cover suspension
When a holo gets suspended, they also cant have any official twitter activity. And she hasn't tweeted, replied, liked, done anything since the announcement.

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>>1212483
I have a feeling that it is because youtube had a feature that boosted the hololive girls that stopped working a few weeks ago due to the spiffing brit telling everyone about it after boosting himself a ton. They just are no longer able to benefit from that exploit.

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>>1221369
Yea, I agree the bot is piece of shit and even if it fucks up they don't bother to fix it but still - even in Suisei situation it happened almost instantly. I feel like if bot were to fuck up it would've done it right after first beheading stream.

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>>1222652
Rrat time!
>Haachama was suspended, but not for shizo arc since it clearly didn't bother anyone
>It was because of HoloEN 2.0 stream
>First time she did that HoloEN stream the very next day she posted about not being able to use HoloEN tag anymore since it 'bothers' someone, also held karaoke stream where she was basically shouting and letting go of her anger
>Next time she did a stream about holoEN same shit repeated. Next day she cancelled her membership ASMR stream and instead did karaoke where she couldn't even sing properly and people were legit thinking something is wrong
>finally 1st March, Red Heart stream
>Day after that most of her videos got privated, and her schizo series got axed.
>Management shut down her project as punishment for pissing off EN branch

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>>1223821
I can't believe it too this long for the obviously true rrat to be posted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1195947
This. Remember this is OK for (((youtube))) but jap asmr isn't

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>>1223941
Whoops forgot to spoiler

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>>1223821
...you know, not to be schizo here and I usually really don't buy such narratives, but this does have timing to it
Could be entirely still a coincidence, but this does seem plausinle to an extent
Question only is who exactly it bothers? Higher ups in Cover, EnMa, other talents?

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>>1204378
Sad but kino.

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It wasn't YouTube, there are way worse schizos in there not only that but there is not manually reviewed content it's all algorithm based and if the algorithm doesn't like something it just hits it without warning. If it was YouTube Charmers wouldn't even had time to private the videos.

It was must likely Cover trying to protect their brand perception, they probably felt like marketing someone like Haachama for their usual products/events was either difficult or impossible so they decided to roll it back.

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>>1224082
If ever in doubt, just blame Enma

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>>1223821
you forgot
>of all videos put on private, only the latest stream (#Hololive EN 2.0) got deleted

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>>1226013
I know you're doing a rrat but the EN2.0 vid is also private. I pulled it up when it was live to watch later but by the time I got to it it was private.

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>>1226054
Did anyone archive the stream?

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>>1226585
https://archive.ragtag.moe/channel/UC1CfXB_kRs3C-zaeTG3oGyg

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>>1226054
some people are confused about this (video being TOS'd) but it's because she put a video with a lewd thumbnail first, it got tos'd then she put the actual video (which is now privated)

[Anonymous No.]

>>1226700
Arigathanks!

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>>1223821
>It was because of HoloEN 2.0 stream

EN was never suppose to have generations, yet now everyone thinks so
(not a rrat, Duck talked about it on stream)

ofc someone inside the marketing would see this as wrench throw at them

[Anonymous No.]

painchama

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>>1227069
Maybe they don't have generations because Haachama was pushing the EN gen 0 thing

[Anonymous No.]

Not knowing is the worst part...

[Anonymous No.]

Doesnt twitter have some sort of limited live streaming functionality? Couldnt she finish the arc on there as a one time only show that disappears forever and anyone who missed it can get fucked

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>>1190560
>Only Haato
>Stricly jp stream
>Playing the same kusoge fotm the others are playing at the moment
>No 4th wall breaking, no jokes, no chat interaction, only forced cute voice
>At 1h mark you'll hear faint sobbing
>Stream ends abruptly
>Graduation anounncement next week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1189328
>>1189448
>>1189861
>>1191712
>>1191740
you motherfuckers are retarded. hear one sniff of unsubstantiated "maybe it's youtube" and you're devolving like paranoid q dumbasses get a fucking grip

[Anonymous No.]

>>1206243
>becomes the next Matsuri
Man Festival really went numb eh? When was the last time she did something memorable?

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>>1227757
This is what happens when all of a sudden all videos from the past month on a channel gets privated all at once, and the only thing the fans get is a vague statement on why they're gone followed by the talent taking a break.

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>>1227810
and that would be youtube's fault why? It's either haachama herself or higher ups within holo responsible and we all know which of those entities it probably is. youtube fucking sucks but there's probably hundreds of ARGs running on the platform right now using creepy insane videos there's no reason she would get singled out by them for this.

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>>1227886
I'm not saying I agree with them, but the speculation comes from us being in the dark about the situation

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It felt really odd that in Coco's unarchived stream full of normalfag-tier songs, that she would do a karaoke cover of Echo.
My rrat is that Haato's roommate was able to contact Coco and raise a flag about haato's channel getting sterilized. Being one of Haato's few true Hololive friends, Coco decided to cover Echo to honor her lost story discreetly.

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>>1227886
Just because it's not Youtube actually making the call doesn't mean that it isn't ultimately their rules driving the decision. Especially given that multiple talents have recently/are still dealing with Youtube's bullshit, it's entirely reasonable for Cover to take preemptive action on content they anticipate is at significant risk of falling under the baleful eye of the algorithm. Having the plug pulled by management sucks, but it would suck way more if it actually got flagged by the algorithm for community standards violations.

We all know that the self-harm undertones in the schizo arc are just the sort of thing that Youtube is known to be touchy about, and the fact that other creators may be able to get away with similar types of content doesn't mean it isn't a risk. It just means that so far they've managed to avoid tripping the algorithm. But the algorithm is known to hold grudges, so the fact that Haachama did get her EN 2.0 stream taken down for the thumbnail is cause for concern that her other videos may attract further scrutiny. Plus the algorithm's grudges can go across channels, with penalties on one channel leading to other channels the algorithm recognizes as similar or related also facing tighter policing. Here, the tight-knit image of Hololive that's usually one of their strengths can be a weakness, and the fact that multiple other Hololive talents have been fighting with the algorithm is further cause for concern that Haachama's questionable content might draw fire.

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>>1212483
Gura still doesn't have an original song or a cover even though she's the most subbed. Also what's this about Enma sucking the life off HoloEN? I know nothing of EN's manager.

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>>1229306
I believe Kiara said something like making original songs is almost entirely on the talent themself and Gura just seems like someone who is too lazy to put into the effort to produce one. If you look at the HoloEN originals, they're from the only 2 members who actually like to sing and produce music. I'm all for shitting on enma but using a song isn't something the managers have a large say in

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>>1229479
Gura being so lazy is part of why I don't watch her as much anymore. Just reminds me of myself and her streams feel like they're for children on top of that, even with all the innuendos. Couldn't Gura just hire someone to write a song for her?

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Gura is working on her first original song, she's briefly talked about it in a couple of streams already.