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Banning Haachama's series, denying EN collabs with coco even though she was the reason the gen happened in the first place, staff actively advising to ignore holostars from the getgo even when the chuuba hasn't made that decision yet, trying to make everyone pure even though Hololive got popular from those non-pure moments, and still not informing the community about how things work which causes mass panic because of schizos theorizing?

>> No.1164690
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1164690

this needs update

THINGS COVER STAFF SHOULD DO FOR THEIR TALENT
>Help them organize schedules
>Talk to other managers to help organize collabs. Say one stream Holo A says she'd like to collab with Holo B someday but she's too shy to ask. Holo A's manager should at the very least float the idea to Holo B's manager.
>Get permissions for games they want to stream
>Keep track of their physical and mental health. If it looks like they are getting burnt out, give them a break.
>Make sure their connections and equipment are functioning well. Buy or reimburse them on things they need to stream. Lobby to fix problems with models or rigging if there is any.
>Watch their streams when possible and monitor any technical problems or interruptions
>Teach them basic coporate OPSEC, research and scrub their past lives to avoid doxxing
>As much as possible, keep track of Antis. That's not to say every anonymous comment can be followed up on, but if some guy says he knows where a Holo lives and is gonna visit her, maybe take action.
>Teach the newer ones how Hololive works, what will be expected of them, both from the fans and the company. This includes memberships, concerts, collabs, merchandise, pricing, etc.
>Support and protect them from outrage nothingburgers by Antis (this includes easily offended insectoid bugmen)
>Hire competent staff with background in talent management for managers, translators, mods, etc.
>Filter questions for harassment, self-help, and not interesting questions
>Use their prestige and connections to hook their talent up with songwriters, movie makers, artists, who want to make things for them
>Screen all fanmade content that the Holos want to feature
>Help foreign ones with visa so they can stay in Japan
>Not make them dance around and shill instant curry
>Have moderators for the Chat to stop rule breaking
>Helping them secure apartments where they can stream without getting arrested
>Letting everyone in HoloCN keep their models and otther stuff (Only true thing they did in this part)

THINGS COVER STAFF ACTUALLY DOES FOR THEIR TALENT
>Why the fuck would a manager help with scheduling?
>Some managers barely even talk to their Holos let alone other managers
>Just play Overcooked, Dark Deception, and that one fucking "game" with the plug people
>Harass and stalk them
>Source your own equipment, not like it's critical to your job or anything
>Fix your own streaming issues, we're not a tech company or anything
>Hire SEAniggers who will harass and stalk them
>Oh hey one of our talents reported that her manager is harassing and stalking her? Better not do anything about it
>Figure it out yourself lol. Maybe we'll make a keychain for you after two years
>Teach their Holos to apologize for mistakes the company made in an attempt to shift blame
>Kneel and bootlick angry Antis and suspend their talents hoping it will appease them (It won't RIP ALOE)
>Hire incompetent people with no background in talent management as staff, rather they are just SEAnigger fans (*oserbait) and end up being at best fucking "SAY THE THING" creeps, (like the HoloEN manager Marine met) and at worst people who will one day rape and kill the Holo (*yger, Mel's manger)
>Pick the worst and most Gosling questions
>Suisei has literally released one original song since she joined Hololive. She released two while she was indie
>Let tracers through and make your Holo look like a fool for having to hastily retract emotes after announcing them
>Hang them out to dry, not my problem lmao
>Make them dance around to shill instant curry
>Not have moderators for the Chat because who need to follow rules
>Not helping them secure apartments where they can stream without getting arrested
>Killing off HoloCN because it make almost no money and fuck ton of drama

>> No.1164707

"I don't want you to collab with the Holostars", does management actually tell them that? If so thats pretty fucked up considering that should be a Holo's decision.

>> No.1164751

hostile A-chan and Coco takeover soon

>> No.1164833

>>1164690
COVER HATE!!!

>> No.1164854

>>1164707
I think fubuki said that before

>> No.1165191

>Why is cover so gay

You have to be at least 13 to post here

>> No.1165593

>>1165191
shut up fag

>> No.1165696 [DELETED] 

>>1164659
Nobody gives a fuck about en and jp collabs unless they are EOPs.

>> No.1165754

>>1165191
Fuck off shill. This website knows Cover is corrupt and you're covering for their incompetence time and time again.

>> No.1165799

COVER HATE

>> No.1165849 [DELETED] 

>>1165754
so we should destroy cover? sorry but i cant agree, chang

>> No.1165869

>>1165696
You're Niponese Mastery is SOOOO COOL.

>> No.1165872

Isn't like 3am in china? Why are they still pushing cover bad again here. Fucking blame youtube for being family friendly faggot

>> No.1165876

She was denied collabo with EN? haven’t known it.

>> No.1165888

>>1164659
Cover is staffed by people that don't belong in the talent/idol/entertainment industry, simple as and with Japanese work culture the way it is Yagoo can't simply fire and hire new managers even if he wanted to.

>> No.1165905

>>1165696
>t. spends 5 years studying japanese
>t. can only speak at a kindergarden level
>t. still gets ignored by his oshis

>> No.1165941

>>1164690
>>Killing off HoloCN because it make almost no money and fuck ton of drama
That's actually a good thing.
Based Cover.

>> No.1165944

>>1164707
Probably in the beginning but not anymore.

>> No.1165945

COVER BAD

>> No.1165956

>>1165849
>months worth of corruption dating back to Mel yab
Fuck anyone who still throws this black company a bone. They should have been burned down 6 months ago.

>> No.1165975

>>1165941
It's discrimination and you know it, cuck

>> No.1166040

>>1165905
Who are you quoting?

>> No.1166045

>>1164659
Good.
Now go away and watch Nyaaners.

>> No.1166053

>>1165872
Theyre in the haachama graduation speculation thread, too. Going absolutely nuts.

>> No.1166077 [DELETED] 

>>1165869
most holo en fans only watch holo en streams and the same goes for holo jp fans. the en an jp collab demand is pretty niche. also lets be honest, the collabs arent that funny. it only becomes awkward and they just pretend its not awkward by smiling and being loud constantly. the content is pretty much empty. also even if coco joins it she doesnt have much to talk about since her topics are mostly about japanese local things. or do you want to watch her reddit meme stream with some en member?

>> No.1166088

>>1166045
At least they allow Nyanners to do what she wants at VShojo. They won't allow their most profitable talent to do what she wants and force her to play one of Minecraft, Apex, or Undertale. Sad!

>> No.1166136

>>1166077
>the collabs arent that funny
its more of a hit or miss, some collabs are fun and some suck

>> No.1166157

>>1165975
Axing the CN branch was the one good thing cover did. Seethe more, chink.

>> No.1166271

>>1166157
>defending discrimination to justify a political means
>in Muttshartica you can get fired for saying "white lives matter" on Facebook
>it's OK when we do it though
Nice double standards

>> No.1166313

>>1165191
bootlicker faggot

>> No.1166361

>>1165191
Nice shilling, YAGOO. What's it like being a more detestable businessman that Hiro?

>> No.1166388

>>1166271
When the only organized harassment group and source of trouble for the company is literally based in a specific country and exists literally solely to harass over said country's politics that the talents don't actually give a shit about, how is it discrimination? If China had the cultural backbone to find and punish the abusive antis, none of that would've happened. You don't get a free pass over "discrimination" just because you are a nation, if your citizens do stupid shit.

>> No.1166397

>>1164690
>Letting everyone in HoloCN keep their models and otther stuff (Only true thing they did in this part)
Jesus hasn't this been updated since fucking September?

>> No.1166410

>>1166271
>implying anon supports firing people over fagbook posts

Fuck facebook, fuck sjw faggotry, Fuck china.

>> No.1166429
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1166429

>>1164659
What happened actually? No rrats pls

>> No.1166454

>>1166388
It's discrimination because it disallowed their clients from having a voice. Dissent is something that should be celebrated but corporations consistently disallow it to avoid conflict over healthy debate. I'm not even Chinese btw.

>> No.1166456

>>1166397
thats why I said it needs update

>> No.1166469

>>1166429
Nobody knows. The safe bet is youtube sperged out over some innocuous shit again.

>> No.1166474

Wow so many chink thread.

>> No.1166490

>>1166429
Haachama slapped Watame in front of Sora after she said she's an mixed mutt

>> No.1166513

>>1166088
Coco and Rushia are the most profitable talents according to SC.
Calli is the most profitable talent according to music.
Pekora and Gura are the most profitable talents according to views.
Haato is far to be the most profitable talent for Cover.

>> No.1166524 [DELETED] 

>>1166271
>>defending discrimination
lol thats exactly what chinks did. chinks are irrelevant to hololive anyway. although you are right about mutts double standards. amerimutts here absolutely lack selfawareness of being as chinky as the chink trolls.

>> No.1166525

>>1166454
Not to mention an entire nationality and language was erased from Cover Corp entirely. Like how is that not discrimination?

>> No.1166528

>>1166271
>closing down a foreign branch of a business because it's not worth the trouble
>discrimination

>> No.1166553

>>1166429
Yagoo shot haachama with all the holomems watching,a public execution

>> No.1166557

>>1166524
>it's OK if we do it
Want to know how I know you're American?

>> No.1166560

>>1166429
Haachama prepared what was supposed to be the finale of the Haachama/Haato arc (teased it as the "true ending") but basically one day before the end she got shut down.
Then apologized for not bringing it to an end due to a "new rule" (currently unknown if it's a youtube rule or if management stepped in with some BS)

Made a community post/tweet where she was sad and said she was going on a self-finding journey for a while.

Nothing confirmed but it loks like management keeps throttling her for some reason.

>> No.1166571

Are you guys autistic? They closed it down because tensions were only going to increase between not just fans but also CN and the other branches. Closing it down was generally a good thing

>> No.1166581

>>1166528
Yes. Eliminating an entire branch based on nationality. That's discrimination. But let me guess, it's OK because GRORIOUS NIPPON CAN DO NO WRONG?

>> No.1166582 [DELETED] 

>>1166088
Pretty sure that Ao Oni is a Japanese game.

>> No.1166602

>>1166571
That's discrimination, you retarded Redditor. Discriminatory practices by cancelling people on their nationality and language. But it's OK if BASED NIPPON does it right?

>> No.1166606
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>>1166560
Yeah hearing about the “new rules” stuff sounds kinda like Cover management

>> No.1166626

>>1166581
>based on nationality
Based on a swarm of insectoid spergs who cant control their emotions.

>> No.1166632

>>1166581
>>1166602
>an actual zhang posting her

këk

>> No.1166650

>>1166271
You got what you deserved Chink.

>> No.1166665

>>1165975
>>1166271
When the CN Branch, with one exception (Yogiri), had:
-their "wolf warriors" supporting the harrasment of the JP talent on roommate accounts;
-stoked such harrassment by watching nationalist movies on bilibili during the controvery on their hololive accounts;
-CN talent saying on roomate accounts that taking foreign money made them feel dirty;
- the talent/management trying to publicly shame conver into giving them their IP/tech to continue independently once they were found out and things turned south;
There was no sane choice othat than cutting off the branch that was rotten from the inside. No matter how much you cry about it it was the smartest decision to excise the tumor.
>Muh discrimination
kys
>>1166454
>I don't operate in this market anymore.
>I have no need pay translators and extra hours to programmers in order in order to keep supporting a version of my website for a market that I don't operate in.
>I'll then remove this redundant part of my operation.
>"MUH DISCRIMINATION"
Could you even be more retarded?

>> No.1166669

>>1166581
>>1166602
>hurr durr chinks are oppressed
It’s not discrimination when their business and personal lives are threatened exclusively by Chinese citizens. They didn’t get axed because they were chinks they got axed because the commie shithole they were based in is filled with the people threatening their company

>> No.1166684

>>1166626
Do you know not all of China is like this or are you just a retarded newfaggot weeb like Reddit is?

>> No.1166723

>>1166665
Artia was very obviously angry at coco and haato but what did the other members do, and why’s Yogiri the exception?

>> No.1166727

>>1166665
But why discriminate them on behalf of nationality then?

>> No.1166748 [DELETED] 

>>1166557
wut
i dont really give a shit about holos foreign branches. i wouldnt be surprised or would just enjoy it if holo en was destroyed by amerimutt woke mob.

>> No.1166754

>>1166723
Now that I think about it, Artia made that very on the nose artwork which very clearly showed a big angry dragon and red heart, but then why would she pander to her overseas audience and reincarnate doing the same thing?

>> No.1166762

>>1166727
>The china branch is making more trouble than money
>Wait I got it, let's cut off out EN branch

Do you realize how stupid you are?

>> No.1166801

>>1166762
I don't support cutting off the EN branch you defensive faggot. I just want a global company that doesn't discriminate on nationality. Cover failed to do this, adding to their further incompetence. And they don't realize all of the boundless opportunities the Chinese market could have provided. I'm not at all Chinese btw.

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>>1166801

>> No.1166831

>>1166801
At this point you are baiting or whatever synapses you had malfunctioned.

>> No.1166844 [DELETED] 

>>1166727
why did chinks discriminate against coco for your chinky nationalism then. you chinks are straight up racist against coco while what holo jp did is just a business decision.

>> No.1166854

>>1166801
Chink hand type this

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1166856

>>1166801
Alright, that was pretty good.

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1166900

>>1166684
Yeah, the ones who aren't "like this" are trying to keep from their organs being harvested in reeducation caps. They don't have time to post huang kuuuumer's approved words on the internet.

>> No.1166904

>>1166844
Holy fucking shit, all Coco had to do was shut her fucking mouth about this.

>> No.1166910

>>1166801
Kek.

>> No.1166927

>>1166801
Based

>> No.1166933

>>1166904
>>1166844

Taiwan

>> No.1166936

>>1166904
Coco isn't chinese she can speak her mind without her social score being nuked

>> No.1166939

>>1166762
What do you expect from chink bugman anon, at this point we may assume they brain is nonexistent

>> No.1166942

>>1166077
I listen to ame and sometimes ina when im coding, but i also put my favorite jp holos on as background noise, too. Nothing like being in the zone and having Subaru quack in your ear

>> No.1166949

>>1166684
Literally all of China is like this.

>> No.1166962

Those are the only good decisions Cover's made though

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1166978

>>1166933

>> No.1166980

>>1166723
There was some giant document that listed all the shit they did and video translations but all of them got taken down, Maybe some other anon has is archived and can link it.
Yogiri is the exception because she was the only one who didn't sperg at some point and just kept streaming entertainment content - she was smart enough to keep focusing on the content.
>>1166754
Because EOPs are retards wh and she makes easy money out of them.

>> No.1166986

>>1166904
You shut your mouth chink

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1167013

>>1166978
based

>> No.1167046

>>1164659
>Banning Haachama's series
More of a Youtube ToS (self harm violence etc) this prevents her channel from being terminated
>denying EN collabs with coco
EN viewers when they see spam, spam with anti chinese copypasta making matters worse
>staff actively advising to ignore holostars
JP viewers are actually mad if their chuuba interacts with a male (even Huke got banned from Holo EN server cause backslash from JP viewers)
> trying to make everyone pure
Again Youtube monetisation issue, Hololive wants to keep a deal with YT with superchats and memeberships

>> No.1167049

Hey, somebody post that yellow bear here so those chink may sheethe

>> No.1167136

>>1166684
Did we "hurt the feelings of the Chinese people" again?

>> No.1167166

>>1166904
Seethe harder, your tears are delicious.

>> No.1167178

>>1166904

She literally didn't say anything, you retard. She didn't even say the word Taiwan. She just showed a picture of her youtube analytics.

>> No.1167197 [DELETED] 

>>1166904
huh? are you fucking dumb? whats that "this"? she wasnt talking about any political shit, you chink cretin

>> No.1167242

>>1167178
>>1167197
At this point I doubt if they even know why they hate coco lmao

>> No.1167261

>>1167242
all they know is that they need some social credit

>> No.1167280

>>1167242
American blood.
The rest are just excuses.

>> No.1167317

>>1167046
huke didn't get banned form holoEN for being male, idiot. he got banned because people spazzed over him giving kiara stuff with busted enchants (that apparently didn't even work for the items they were on) and had a pissfit about muhbalunse in a sandbox game.

>> No.1167329

>>1166904
>>1166844
I don’t hate Chinese people, Taiwanese are very nice. However I hate CCP bugmen with fragile egos

>> No.1167331

>>1167242
They watched a miss translated clip of coco suporting taiwan, and chinks boarded the hate train. artia the one that actually could calm chinks didn't do shit and supported coco hate on alternate accounts and even organized raids.

>> No.1167354

>>1167331
Based Wolf Warrior (chink perspective)

>> No.1167401
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1167401

>>1166949
This is correct.
We talk about how the CCP is a human rights violating dictatorship, but the only reason they are this way is because the mass citizens are so uneducated and rabid, that the only way to get them in line and not commit crimes is literally through having the central authority beat them into submission.
The moment they loosen restrictions you have all kinds of people that can't control themselves and resort to scamming and killing each other. There's a reason Chinese citizens are so supportive of these oppressive rules, because otherwise all hell breaks loose.

After you've killed off all the intellectuals during the Cultural Revolution and Tiananmen Festival, and have the rest exiled to other parts of the world, this is the kind of people you are left with.
You know the term "the people deserve its own government." A democracy is literally impossible in the environment of mainland China since it fundamentally assumes good faith in people, but that does not exist for the vast majority of the populace.

You see parts of this expose itself in the surface level such as the Hololive Taiwan issue, but deeper down you realize the issue is much, much worse.

t. Previously lived in China

>> No.1167408

>>1167331
That's some chinky move artia did

>> No.1167430

>>1166904
Shut her mouth about what?

>> No.1167503

>>1167354
>Streaming a Wolf Warrior watchalong during Coco's return
And people still wonder why HoloCN was disbanded

>> No.1167587

>>1166904
All China had to do was not be subjugated by communist psychopaths, but here we are

>> No.1167761

>>1164659
It was more of a YouTube rule enforcement thing, that forced Cover to step in, and shut Haachama down. But yeah, they’re still pretty gay regardless

>> No.1167905

>>1166665
I don't think they ever payed the translators, just saying.

>> No.1168139

Solution: Start a vTuber company in America or Europe

>> No.1168246

>>1165754
They are generating more revenue now than ever before. Remember, companies always think about that bottom line and are susceptible to fuck things up because of it

>> No.1168315

>>1165975
I'm chinese and that branch deserved to be erased

>> No.1168421

what if this whole thing is part of haachamas plot?

>> No.1168471

>>1168421
I won't be surprised.

>> No.1168502

>>1166904
>all she had to do was shut her mouth
>chinese nationalists continue to harass her during 3 week suspension of nothing but silence
>chinese make ultimatum "we'll never stop attacking until you pull out of china or fire coco"

>> No.1168507

>>1164659
>staff actively advising to ignore holostars from the getgo
Agree with 90% of your point but you need to convince me that this part isn’t based.

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1168519

>>1168139
Be careful what you wish for

>> No.1168520

>>1168139
>every single member is either a darkie, fag or a tranny
I mean the cultural diversity of Europe already gives a lot of opportunities to create interesting characters just with that gimmick alone but they would fuck it up bad

>> No.1168542

>>1166271
nice room temp IQ

>> No.1168558

>>1168520
Remember anon: Europe is not actually diverse because they're all white.
Retarded, I know.

>> No.1168615

What if she just defies Cover and posts it anyway? Would they really risk graduating a million sub employee without thinking of the for-sure shit storm that would follow afterwards?

>> No.1168626

>>1168615
There would be an outrage but it'd be over in 2 weeks or less

>> No.1168637

I bet half the niggers in this thread have multiple active memberships, funneling more money to cover.

>> No.1168641

>>1168421
I'd love for it to be true, but it really doesn't look like it this time.

>> No.1168648

>>1168615
>a thousand people spam on reddit for a week or two
>shitstorm

>> No.1168659

>>1168615
If they can survive China, they can survive this

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>>1166904

>> No.1168714

>>1166727
you want cover corp back in china, first you have to get mainland chinese corporations to stop blacklisting cover corp.

cover had a choice of either closing down the branch or letting it go independant, which was what bilibili was probably hoping for so they could swoop in and aquire it when they encouraged all the anti-cover harrassment and banning people trying to explain the situation and calm people down on their platform.

>> No.1168732

>>1166581
You will never be a woman.

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1168760

>>1168519
>a company that lets their talent do wtf they want on stream and collab with whoever they want and can't suspend or "graduate" talent because the vtubers own the rights to their own characters
you're right, what a horrible idea

>> No.1168770

>>1166581
have a (you) for this good bait

>> No.1168771

>>1168615
>she uploads it
>jewtube takes down her channel

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1168816

FUCK COVER
https://soundcloud.com/fuck-cover-ch/fuck-cover

>> No.1169136

>>1168816
Based Holonigga

>> No.1169216

>>1166801
Tipped your hand a bit anon

>> No.1169235

>>1166801
>I'm not at all Chinese btw.
Ogey Deng

>> No.1169294

>>1168760
>ironic vtubers and unironic sluts
yup

>> No.1169481

>>1165975
Of all the criticisms, why discrimination? You don't tend to start another branch/division with the goal of axing it later.

>> No.1169694

>>1168648
>>1168626
It would pretty completely sour the relationship between pretty much the entire customer-base and Cover. Every Holo would have to indirectly answer for it during their streams (either making excuses or for weeks on end, mass dislikes from people who actually regularly use the platforms would begin on the main channel. Holo's themselves will probably have a more strained relationship with management.
It would be a constantly referenced black mark on the agency's history at best, and an actual Coco level (but worse since it's actually in EN/JP circles) shitfest at worst.

>>1168659
China was a bit different. It was very much an Us-vs-Them sort of situation. All Cover essentially had to do was pick a side (CN or the rest of the world) and that side would have their back for the rest of it.
As we've seen numerous times, Vtubers and the related ecosystem are a public relations house of cards. Firing the currently most popular Holo for making content that most people like would have devastating, momentum halting PR consesquences, if it doesn't outright kill the whole thing. It would piss off both of their remaining main audiences (JP and Western) and pretty much nobody would be in their corner for it.
Sounds hyperbolic but this is how these things go with suddenly famous people/groups. Hololive hasn't had quite enough time to cement itself as an institution that can the public would consider a true mainstay even through PR disasters (like Blizzard or Bethesda for example). When it comes to fame it's easy come easy go I'm afraid.

>> No.1169719

FUCK COVER

>> No.1169726

>>1169694
Should have formatted this a wee bit more, but you get the point

>> No.1169807

>>1169481
>Of all the criticisms, why discrimination?
Because it's bait anon

>> No.1169855

>>1168692
I hope this was posted on reddit

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1169892

>>1169855
Thanks but it's actually from a sad panda doujin.

>> No.1169920
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1169920

>> No.1169928

>>1168139
Progressives ruined any chance of that going well. May as well just stick to indies.

>> No.1169976

>>1167401
Hell even with all that shit they do stuff like burn tires for light and warmth and shit in the street.

>> No.1170396

So any archive with the privated videos?

>> No.1170565

>>1169892
>>1169920
Cringe.

>> No.1170604

>>1169892
>>1169920
Based.

>> No.1170655

>>1170565
>>1170604
Both. The content is based but pretty cringe to package pages and pages of this in your damn h-manga

>> No.1170956

>>1169892
>>1169920
Kino

>> No.1170985

>>1169892
>>1169920
Gay.

>> No.1170996

>>1167046
>denying EN collabs with coco
EN viewers when they see spam, spam with anti chinese copypasta making matters worse
Doesnt jewtube have any built in "anti spam" systems? Or cant they literally pay one simp to moderate?

>> No.1171329

>>1165975
It wasn't discrimination. CN had become a liability because the chinks couldn't behave
Also,
>complaining about discrimination on 4chan

>> No.1171453

>>1170996
Just 1 mod not enough

>> No.1171468

>>1171329
>complaining about discrimination on 4chan
A concept so absurd that nobody could even begin to tackle it, so they attacked the point instead. Go figure

>> No.1171569

>>1169855
They was posted in Reddit long time ago as non-op

>> No.1171649 [DELETED] 

>>1171453
tfw the only mod is Coco who has to sing, use a vibrator and delete all China numba 1s

>> No.1171850

>>1171649
Do you ever see her stream recently?

>> No.1171961

>>1164659
I unsubscribed from every holo besides Haachama for this. Fuck Cover. They're going to crash hard soon for their constant mismanagement.

>> No.1172062
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1172062

Cover removing the video with this song is a sin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf1epRIQHGQ

>> No.1172146 [DELETED] 

>>1171850
Regrettably,yes. And i don't want to be hypocrite who tells just get the mods or meds. We don't need to change the corp rules, but have to rework the community, it became way too toxic and saturated with retards who don't appreciate their work.

>> No.1172200

>>1172146
Coco put her champions become Mod randomly

>> No.1172230

>>1168816
My man that's actually really good

>> No.1172257

>>1171961
I subscribed again to Haato because of this.
The whole Haachama act was getting annoying.
Bless Youtube.

>> No.1172274
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1172274

>be Haato
>do some schizo shit
>get called on your schizo fantasies
>private schizo arc
>make some tweets about going on a journey
>it's another schizo bait
>make literal autists boycott your company
i kneel schizochama

>> No.1172275 [DELETED] 

>>1172200
What the actual fuck, what champions?

>> No.1172315

>>1172275
top paypigs

>> No.1172341

>>1172275
gatchis - long term fans

>> No.1172375

>>1172274
Based retard Japanese teenager.

>> No.1172390 [DELETED] 

>>1172315
not really, i got a wrench for few streams and im just a 9 month member, with little to none donations

>> No.1172487

I saw that hachama was quitting or some shit. Quick run down? What's this shit about a schizo?

>> No.1172500

This is my nareative but pls listen

I think Subaru stream about Hololive audition told us about Haato situation as well

If we see about EN department
Subaru said " En do not have generation like JP"

That mean " EN gen2 " never happen in future because " new EN Hololive member " use theme like "myth" not "generation" and that mean a lot

So as manager's eye " EN gen2" may cause problem.

This is my opinion

>> No.1172508

>>1168816
The hell, this is really good

>> No.1172536

>>1172487
The Chinese have kidnapped Haachama as revenge of the China arc. Are you a schizo enough dude to save Haachama?

>> No.1172575

>>1164659
Maybe because they cannot communicate effectively.
Maybe they are afraid thar western degenerates will ruin their gals.

>> No.1172638

>>1166727
t. bugman

>> No.1172639
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>>1172500
It is well known that Cover is absolutely autistic in their thinking that English viewers are too dumb, and will confuse Haachama and Coco with Hololive English. Which is part of why Haachama had to stop the collabs, and Coco was never allowed to collab with HoloEN.

>> No.1172648

What if this is part of the long game in removing the pepeloni?

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[ERROR]

>>1172315
>>1172341
Well oh well, so i was blissfully oblivious then...It just all tiresome now

>> No.1172714

So basically Hololive and their talents have managed to become succesful DESPITE cover and not thanks to them, am i getting it right?

>> No.1172856

>>1168615
Cover is that cancerous, yeah i can see them graduating her forcefully despite everything.

>> No.1173141

jesus where do you get these rrats????

>> No.1173211

>>1164690
It has been updated, you're just using an old one

>> No.1173375

>>1164659
What the fuck happened, was she being too creative for a japanese company?

>> No.1173422

>>1172714
No.

>> No.1173452

>>1166429
Pepeloni went on /pol/ rant about juice and Youtube booted her.

>> No.1173470

>>1173375
More like for youtube.

>> No.1173640

>>1173470
She really didn't do anything out of the realm for youtube, like at all.

>> No.1173766

Is it caused by china? I wanna ask it detail.

>> No.1173800

>>1173640
About suicide?

>> No.1173876

>>1173640
Killing herself?

>> No.1174009

>>1166429
Haachama was going to do a watch along of The Greatest Story Never Told but Cover wouldn't let her.

>> No.1174025

>>1173800
>>1173876
It was fucking fiction, A literal anime character. and its a story, you can literally read shakespeare and that has suicide.

>> No.1174038

>>1168816
Lol

>> No.1174205

shit she really did say that she was leaving for a while but only in japanese...

What the fuck happened.

>> No.1174285

>>1174205
Someone saw her and Yagoo mating on his office and blackmailed them.

>> No.1174340

>>1174025
But Youtube' tos not agree with you

Anon

>> No.1174346

>>1168816
holy shit nigga, I kneel
if a talent ever gets graduated because of Cover's incompentece, this needs to be stickied

>> No.1174423
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Maybe the real schizo end was inside of us all along Haatons. This may not have been the ending we hoped for, but maybe she planned out getting shut down and encouraging us to lose our rational thought

>> No.1174488

>>1164659
But haato hasn't played with Gura because she refuses to play gura's favorite game "dead by daylight" not because of en management. And coco won't play with EN because they refuse to play her favorite game "Ark: survival evolved".

>> No.1174570

>>1174423
the way i see it she was definitely pushing the envelope past what was acceptable, and i don't blame her. she got suspended for 3 weeks along with coco for bullshit and probably felt like getting back at cover in some way.

>> No.1174636

>>1173766
yes
chang is behind this as always

>> No.1174651

>>1166271
look at the all the posts seething on this. preach brother.

>> No.1174693
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Reminder that Haachama is not only an amazing streamer, she's also a good senpai who takes care of her kouhais while also being the youngest member in hololive.
People often credit Kanata and Fubuki for helping Coco get through the chink arc but they always forget about Haachama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX85COf8808
Also
>>/jp/thread/S30034719#p30037481

She truly has a BIG RED HEART

>> No.1174740

>>1168816
basiert

>> No.1174768

>>1165754
>>1166313
>>1166361
Not that anon, but I thought he was criticizing the fact hat OP used "gay" as an insult, which is pretty childish.

>> No.1174841

>>1174768
What a faggot!

>> No.1174894

>>1165975
>>1166271
>>1166454
>>1166525
How much are you getting paid lad?

>> No.1174912

>>1165975
You deserve it, Zhang.

>> No.1174917

>>1166525
Good fucking riddance.

>> No.1174947

>>1166525
I like keeping my house clean out of pests (rats, bugs).
It's the same really.

>> No.1174948

>>1166581
CN shot their feet by themself

>> No.1174963

>>1174948
you're an expert, right?

>> No.1175000

>>1166684
But China let wolf warrior become " the face" of their's culture and country.

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>>1168816
Bro

>> No.1175056

>>1174963
I lurked in Bili , Weibo , V8 and NGA

May be yes I guess

>> No.1175096

>>1174025
Youtube doesn't care about common sense anon.

>> No.1175126

>>1174841
"faggot" still isn't as cringy as "hurr durr gay"

>> No.1175149

>>1168816
Holy shit, I KNEEL

>> No.1175176

>>1172274
Obviously best girl

>> No.1175224

>>1174693
Ogey

>> No.1175273

>>1165872
It’s not Chinese it’s just the dipshits who post here normally

>> No.1175315

>>1168816
immeasurably based

>> No.1175316

>>1175273
>It’s not Chinese
very slick, chang

>> No.1175359

>>1168816
HOLY FUCKING BASED
#FREEHAACHAMA
#BURNCOVERDOWN

>> No.1175879

>cover not advertising holostars
They literally have a weekly broadcast show on Hololive channel with English subs

>> No.1176179

>>1166801
china NEED to shut down it's protectionism against foreign corpos, until that we talk

>> No.1176243

>>1168692
my favorite ghibli movie

>> No.1176406

>>1168139
>monkey pawn
they will end forced to pander to LGBTQWERYUIOP, BLM, jewish, etc. crow

>> No.1176753

>>1164659
>staff actively advising to ignore holostars from the getgo even when the chuuba hasn't made that decision yet
Good!

>> No.1176785

>>1166684
It doesn't matter, those that aren't like that aren't allowed a public voice because ThE pARtY dOEs noT aPPRovE.

>> No.1176810

>>1164690
where's the deodorant for their talents

>> No.1177114

>>1166801
chinese people, especially mainlanders in china are sensitive crybabies. As soon as the forbidden T word shows up, they freak the fuck out. If some shit like that offends them greatly, imagine a bigger offense in the future, that would be a meltdown way bigger than the Haachama and Coco incident last summer.

>> No.1177202

>>1174009
Based, actually seconded this.

>> No.1180408

>>1166560
>>1166606
So why would Cover step in? They didn't step in before did they? Are they worried the Hachama arc ending will make Haato less profitable or something.

>> No.1180578

>>1166602
>But it's OK if BASED NIPPON does it right?
yeah, just ask nanjing

>> No.1189760

>>1168816

Dayum, that was pretty fucking good.

>> No.1189806

Why are there so many clover apologists on this board?

>> No.1189881

>>1168816
gonna become a railway enthusiast and blare this during my visit to holoHQ

>> No.1189882

>>1169892
>>1169920
Kino

>> No.1190068

If the problem is YouTube ToS, why doesn't she upload it somewhere else with Cover's permission?

I can't believe there are people thinking cover is not responsible for this.

>> No.1190105

>>1175126
Ok what do you want then? Nigger? Dickhead? Cunt? Retard? Gayniggerfaggot? Shittingdicknipples? Fuck off

>> No.1190123

>Keeping your talents in line and making sure they remember that their freedoms are limited
Based

>> No.1190333

>>1164659
I dont know what happened but if Haachama got punished, she was asking for it.
She has been told to not use the HoloEN tag anymore, and what she just go and do again?
Yep.

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>>1168816
LONG LIVE HAACHAMA!

>> No.1190605

As far as I'm concerned, the Schizo arc is canon, and Haachama needn't rollback all this fucking character development and lore. It's fucking great, and it makes her stand out.

>> No.1192454
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>>1168816
>I’D TAKE ENMA BY THAT WHITE SHIRT AND I SWEAR I’M GOING TO FUCK HER

>> No.1195524

>>1168816
basado

>> No.1195642

>>1165191
You have to go back, nigger faggot

>> No.1195944

>>1166723
All of them bar Spade organised raids with their fans against Coco and Haacha, watched nationalist films on their actual holo accounts, and a wide variety of other stuff.

Yogiri is the exception because her roommates Taiwanese.

>> No.1196000

>>1166684
>out of all of the 6 HoloCN members the only one who didn't become a wolf warrior during the Cocontroversy was Yogiri
>Yogiri isn't even a mainlander
All this entire event taught me is that the only Chinamen you can trust are the ones who aren't from China

>> No.1196025

chinese and SEAniggers can suck my nuts

>> No.1196618

>>1166904
Shut up wang

>> No.1197177

>>1164707
It's pretty clear they have strict instructions to pretend to be lesbians or at the very least bi to give their simps some hope. Doing streams with Holostars would cause problems for this image.

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>>1166271
so easy to get (you)s lol

>> No.1200295

>>1164690
the curry and killing CN were actually positives

>> No.1200638

A reminder that it's probably both Youtube's (with their new advertiser-friendly policies) and Cover's (because they panicked after reading the new policies) fault that Haachama Schizo Arc is gone.

>> No.1200704

>>1200638
I just wish Cover was more supportive of her, she's really one of the most creative holos out there. She can't post her grand finale on YT? Well, let her post it somewhere else.

>> No.1200710

And fuck indogs too for good measure. Especially that cunt Reine.

>> No.1200737

>>1200704
Making 30 seconds memes isn't being creative.

>> No.1200739

>>1200710
what the fuck did reine do?

>> No.1200755

>>1200737
According to what?

>> No.1200813

>>1200638
Highly likely rrat.

Yet for me, it's the timing that makes me think of bad faith. They could've shut it down at the start, or after the 1m video, but destroying it in the day of the finale fires up my schizo neurons like nothing else.

>> No.1200886

>>1200704
This. Let her host it on their website or even upload an mp4 on mega for all I care. Sure she won’t get paid for it but at least they’d be doing their fans a good service.

>> No.1201064

>>1200886
This is what makes me think that COVER is more involved in this than YT.

Cover could show their support for their holos, Haachama would finish her schizo arc and her fans would be satisfied too, and YT would not get involved. Win-win-win-win situation.

>> No.1201136

>>1172639
It's pretty common for the Japanese to assume all Westerners are mouth-breathing retards who need an entire team of caretakers to wipe their fat asses.

>> No.1201214

>>1201136
While it applies mostly to Americans...

>> No.1201435

It doesn't bother me if Cover wont let the girls collab with the Stars, pretty obvious they're being far more strict about that now for some reason(Cover did not allow any female to be paired with a man during the big apex vtuber tourney for example.)

Which made no sense cause Fubuki and Matsuri where in it and them collabing with men is fairly normal.

I just wish they'd advertise them a litlte more, we had Holofes come and go, and even the barely just introduced indo GEN2 girls got a mention. Like fuck just have it at the end or something.

"Oh yea, these guys exist"

>> No.1201789

>>1200813
I can't see it as anything more than Cover being on the safe side of things, this is the same company that had almost all their talents demonetized and didn't know what to do until a western drama youtuber shouted at youtube to monetize them again.
Though idk why they don't upload somewhere else, could be a multitude of reasons and could just be Cover being a shit

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1201877

>>1201789
>this is the same company that had almost all their talents demonetized and didn't know what to do until a western drama youtuber shouted at youtube to monetize them agai
what meme is this?

>> No.1201916

>>1164707
yuri sells, but mostly i wouldnt be surprised if its because too many jp bros would get butthurt about seeing another man in the mix, jp internet culture is still in its 2014 stage

>> No.1202051

>>1201877
I wish it was a meme

https://youtu.be/IFhz7MyiRQA

https://youtu.be/97wGrVqsoRM

>> No.1202114

>>1166429
Here's my rrat
Cover rules about self harming on stream/despict Holos in violent situation

I don't remember what exactly happened but Coco fucked up and show a Holo hanging by mistake in a Asacoco, Cover got mad about it and told Coco to apologize.
It's not a new rule but managers are actually retarded. Cover is hiring new managers for Holos (Subaru and Gen 5 got new managers less than a month ago for example) because the previous ones were incompetents. Haachama probably got a new one recently too, saw all the shit she was doing since December and demanded her to stop.

>> No.1202197

the girls not collabing with the homos is good
fuck off with that gay shit, if i want to see "men" i go to their channel

>> No.1202206

>>1202051
>TheQuarterPounder

>> No.1203020

Are these threads made by actual chinks or people RPing as chinks? I don't know anymore

>> No.1203081

>>1203020
it is genuinely hard to tell, though I think a good sign of it being a chink is if they start shitting on other talents at least

>> No.1203082

>>1203020
Why are you convinced that anyone with ill will against a company that just cucked a beloved chuuba from finishing a major character arc is a chink? What strange mental gymnastics even lead you there?

>> No.1203090

>>1202197
Feeling threatened by a bunch of introverted Japanese dudes is beyond pathetic.

>> No.1203112

>>1203082
Because it always ends with shitting on Coco and talking about CN

>> No.1203226

>>1203112
I genuinely haven't seen someone defend Haachama and China in the same post, this is fucking retarded.
Haatons are angry and frustrated about what happened, I love Coco, I'm not a chink, I just hate how little transparency Cover management has for something that affected chama and her fans so much.

>> No.1203820

>>1164659
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HGW3ES0-Gg

>> No.1204282

>>1202206
He's right though

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