/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

not hate but why do people like ina?

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>>11555466
She´s too bland for hate

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>>11555466
Whenever I see these polls every month it's always the same results. Either Ina's fanbase is very dedicated or most of them are clipfags

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>>11555466
Because she's a recluse. That's the vibe she sends off, at least. She's a quiet, shut-in artist that's mostly chill to hang around with, and a lot of people can relate to the "quiet" and "shut-in" part. The only hate she's ever gotten is from that lukewarm insult a while back that she apologized for.

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>>11555466
Kiara isn't even in the double digits kek

[Anonymous No.]

shes asian

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>>11555466
She is the best at videogames out of the myth girls and this job is still about streaming videogames for the most part.

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>>11555466
>ametard
who cares

[Anonymous No.]

Her streams are comfy and chill. But she also has good chemistry with the other members and is clever enough to keep them on their toes, which makes for some great improv comedy.

[Anonymous No.]

You think Kiara saw this and cried?

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>>11555514
true

>>11555466
from what I've seen on this board, some people use her as a shelter from chronic overstimulation.

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>>11555466
Betacucks.
Probably fags who can't handle real social interaction with woman, see Ina as the timid, quiet gf they could only achieve.
Likely why Kiara is so low since she is the most extroverted Stacy-energy of the group.

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>>11555466
most inoffensive EN, supportive genmates, very cute and chill. also lmao at teamates cant rigged YT poal

[Anonymous No.]

le comfy :)

[Anonymous No.]

This graph just tells me who streamed the most minecraft this month.

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>>11555630
I would guess clipfags. Also bandwagonning. The hipster choice if you don't want to pick the obvious better choice.

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>>11556037
Mostly inoffensive. There are times when her inner gook comes out and she makes some cutting remarks against her fans.

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>>11555466
>taking clipper polls seriously

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Because everyone else in Hololive EN is either cringe or annoying Ina is less of that. She also actually has a talent Calli use to have a talent but dropped off after her third song everything after the third song is shit.

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>>11556191
But ina doesnt get clipped?

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>>11555466
>Talented
>Smart
>Good at videogames
>Good at most things actually
>Chill
>Mature
>Really high power level
>Cute and moe
>Tries to constantly improve at the things she's bad at
>Most of her collabs are good
>Doesn't sells her dignity to read superchats since she's a responsible girl with a lucrative main job
>Unironically great wife material
Idk man you tell me

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>>11556467
lol nice bait

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>>11556336
You have it backwards. Her new shit is a million times better than her old shit. You probably just like the style of the first EP but that’s different from the actual quality of it

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>>11556467
>Doesn't sells her dignity to read superchats since she's a responsible girl with a lucrative main job

You had me, then you fucking lost me.

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>>11556604
it’s dog shit.

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>>11555466
You wouldn't get it.

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>>11556336
Her last song was great though. She's had some soulless shit here and there but all artists have some pieces that are kinda forced that were just made because they felt they had to keep creating and people don't really care about some of them. As long as she keeps producing and there's still soul and individuality behind them then she will write good songs here and there. Most artists are like this

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>>11555466
not a sperg + an otaku + comfy drawing streams delivered by someone who's insanely talented at her craft
she's not my oshi, but she's by far the most watchable EN

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>>11556191
Takos are probably the most dedicated vtuber fans among the holomyth audience. Whereas a casual holomyth viewer might just watch whichever holomyth is on at the moment, takos spend a lot of time seeking out and watching vtubers outside of holomyth, including indies. But they do still want to keep up on the holomyths besides Ina, so they watch clips.

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>>11555466
Ina never gave people false expectations. Not like the other ones cancelling projects, killing ships and just being disappointing in general.

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>>11557351
killing ships ? could it be that you are a /u/ shizo ? pathetic

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>>11555466
don't know but seeing chicken last gives me a hearty laugh

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>>11555887
some people seriously need to learn how to meditate

[Anonymous No.]

thanks for posting my channel anon. yeah I was surprised to see these results as well. i like to post similar polls every couple of weeks and it's weird to see how consistent the results are. the results you see in the pic will likely be the same even after 20k votes. though i don't know if it's just the same people finding my polls over and over or this is a good representation of the wider community

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>>11556336
This
>>11556438
This
>>11556604
No. All her music is shit. But her first songs focused more on lyrical acrobatics. Cloudy sheep was probably named by Watame, so there wasn't much Cali could do about that part of the rap. But for some reason the rest of it was also shit, which means it's all Cali's fault. Watame's singing was good tho and her dancing was cute.
>>11556740
If you know it's soulless, why don't you fix it before you publish it?

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>>11556438
There's a mainly Ina clipper channel that averages around 25k per video and uploads daily. The channel gets recommended all the time since the vids are under a minute

[Anonymous No.]

Leafs.

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>>11555466
what do you mean "why"? she's the most likable person in myth

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>>11555466
If you're a hololive tribalist AND an EOP, there just aren't a lot of options as far as vtubers to watch. So i assume Ina is just the "default" one. She's generically good.

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>>11557581
Yeah, despite your video not capturing the all of the context of Ina and Mori's conversation during guilty gear and the drama it produced it that video's comment section. People are still voting for Ina huh.

[Anonymous No.]

Ever been to the tako general?
They are probably even worse than teamates with how hopelessly in love with the roomate.
Its extremely pathetic watching them fantasize about what Ina is like outside of her streams.

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>>>>11557734
Her views say otherwise
>>>>11556653
Cloudy Sheep sucked but I have no idea why the fuck you’re using that as the example of her newer music, or even her music at all. It’s Watame’s song, Mori just featured on it.

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>>11555514
This
You don't hate what is already ugly and irrelevant and has zero impact in your life

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>>11555466
Slow and steady wins the race and she is insanely humble.

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>>11559549
don't you mean INAsanely hahahaha

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>>11559592
>LMAO INAFF LOLOLOLO
>starts spamming on other member chat whenever they say puns
Ina deserve better

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>>11555466
It's no surprise clipfags watch Ina because they'd rather watch her clips than fall asleep watching her streams.

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>>11560078
ina clips exist?

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Ame is cringe
Mori is super ultra mega cringe
Kiara is an annoying bitch
Gura is fun
Ina is good for relaxing after work

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>>11555466
She is basically EN's Sora, can't really hate her, sure masses of people aren't going out of their way to watch her regularly, but she is a genuine pure girl

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What a sneaky containment thread. Clipfag SEAniggers still haven't gotten gotten over being called losers huh? Oh well, keep seething losers

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>>11559457
Cloudy Sheep was great without Mori at least. The acoustic version was excellent.

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>What a sneaky containment thread. Clipfag SEAniggers still haven't gotten gotten over being called losers huh? Oh well, keep seething losers

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>>11557734
You're blinded by cheap wordplay and overdone rap lyricism. 'end of a life' has some of the most subtle lyrics out of all of calli's songs. She takes the usual cliches associated with anarchic musical bohemianism, the romantic 'punk' lifestyle, and subtly twists them to be self-critical. Her 'labyrinth of lights' takes a usual metaphor and plays on the idea of illumination being disorientating rather than revealing. "screaming at the top of our lungs to the numbness" begins with an anarchistic romantic cliche but uses the last word to critique it. A lesser musician would merely relate those events at face value, as a celebration of the rock ideal and not 'selling out', but 'end of a life' is such a narratively unique take on that type of song because calli shows the gaps in such naive romanticism, how such a life is really a life of burnouts and nobodies who celebrate self-hate. It is nostalgic, condemnatory, and self-critical, utterly complex in its expression although the lyrics are more simple and precise than her other songs. Of course there are the obvious verbal fireworks too like the 'off is where you're laid line'. Her choice of producer was also perfect for showing the vacillating dream state of the artist who doesn't know where her journey will take her. 'end of a life' shows calli's growth emotionally and thematically as an artist and augurs a great future if she can maintain her development and not fall to the trap of relying on stuff that just aims to feed her fanbase superficially.

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>>11555466
Anyone who hates Ina needs some self-reflection

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>You're blinded by cheap wordplay and overdone rap lyricism. 'end of a life' has some of the most subtle lyrics out of all of calli's songs. She takes the usual cliches associated with anarchic musical bohemianism, the romantic 'punk' lifestyle, and subtly twists them to be self-critical. Her 'labyrinth of lights' takes a usual metaphor and plays on the idea of illumination being disorientating rather than revealing. "screaming at the top of our lungs to the numbness" begins with an anarchistic romantic cliche but uses the last word to critique it. A lesser musician would merely relate those events at face value, as a celebration of the rock ideal and not 'selling out', but 'end of a life' is such a narratively unique take on that type of song because calli shows the gaps in such naive romanticism, how such a life is really a life of burnouts and nobodies who celebrate self-hate. It is nostalgic, condemnatory, and self-critical, utterly complex in its expression although the lyrics are more simple and precise than her other songs. Of course there are the obvious verbal fireworks too like the 'off is where you're laid line'. Her choice of producer was also perfect for showing the vacillating dream state of the artist who doesn't know where her journey will take her. 'end of a life' shows calli's growth emotionally and thematically as an artist and augurs a great future if she can maintain her development and not fall to the trap of relying on stuff that just aims to feed her fanbase superficially.

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>>11561521
Nice self portrait. Good to know that you agree your evaluation based on mindless contrarianism than actual understanding.

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>>11561519
She'll be forever tainted in my eyes because she kneeled to the chinks and refused to draw Coco for her graduation.

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>>11561468
If this isn't already a copypasta it is now

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>>11561878
He is right you know, most of calli songs have a part of her in them. But the last one is so fucking emotional and lyrically perfect. I could hear the story of her life in a song. It told me her progress and how she felt about it ever since she became calliope mori

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>>11561519
Ina needs to know her place.

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>>11555466
She's comfy, cute, and whenever I see her she makes me happy. She also doesn't say or do stupid shit.

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>>11561976
Not exactly perfect. I felt she could have done more subversions or played around with lines like "Breathe in, but it won't stop the rain from pouring" or "No use in trying to find friends/'Cause in the end nobody sticks around" or some of the floating aimlessly stuff which are cliches played rather straight without the same multiplicities of meaning of other lines. But the good lines are good, and the entire structure makes up for it.

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>>11562409
Also her 'bars' line would be more impressive if Elliot Smith's Between The Bars didn't use the same pun with the added third meaning of prison bars.

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>>11562409
I didnt literally mean perfect i was just exaggerating, but i think its a good amount of subversion to playing it straight. More subversion would make it lose the feel, idk just my opinion

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>>11555466
she's inoffensive but self-aware
it's a mix of self deprecation and cute, which her fans can project themselves into

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>>11555514
True

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>>11562631
Yeah its a balancing act. Only seen couple of songs that manage to do something lyrically interesting every line while still keeping to simple expressions that veer extremely close to cliche yet pull away at the last moment. Elliot Smith's Between The Bars is one example. I genuinely believe Calli could become one of the best songwriters out there and find that sweet spot between rap and singing if she spent the rest of her life relentlessly chasing poetic and musical perfection. But its a hard path.

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>>11560360
Mori is cringe
Kiara is super ultra mega cringe
Ina is an annoying bitch
Ame is fun
Gura is good for relaxing after work

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>>11555466
Stealth Kiara anti thread

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If you don't get her main appeal from this stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esgESgYGTzA you will never like Ina, you just don't have it.

[Anonymous No.]

She's calm, quick witted, decent at games, chill, comfy, slightly awkward. I also get the vibe that she's pretty normie outside of being a weeb. Decent at stream-of-consciousness to fill dead air.

I don't watch her a lot, though. I could see how she'd get boring if you tried.

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>>11557734
>If you know it's soulless, why don't you fix it before you publish it?
because there are a limited number of hours in a day. get a product out that's passable and you apply what you learned in your future stuff. Spend all your time polishing something and you will never get anything finished.
This is something every creative type needs to learn.

[Anonymous No.]

>ameshits, KFPansies and cumbuds on full defense force
Truly epic

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>>11556191
Or she's just popular you coping faggot.

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>>11555925
KFP are so delusional

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>>11556160
But Kiara is doing a MC JP collab every other day

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>>11555630
I'm a clipfag but I chose Ina there because I watch her the most. Alot of her videos are easy to listen to in the background and she's pretty chill. She's also the most...consistent? Idk how to explain it. I was surprised she topped that list too.

As of late I float between her and NijiEN talents.

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>>11555466
Watson deserves all the hate against her, she is literally the laziest one in Myth now.

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>>11568997
>less stream time therefore bad
what do you expect? she has life and didn't have time for no job like you

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>>11568997
Using that logic, Sana is currently the laziest in Hololive

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>>11568381
She's pretty well adjusted. Her social skills are good. She's only a hikki drawing anime all day by choice.

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What's made Kiara so disliked?

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>>11571476
annoying voice, high energy == obnoxious
her laugh is probably deliberately faked, an attempt to be EN Pekora
somethingsomething bottom left/takamori
wearing her emotions on her sleeve doesn't help, makes her look thinskinned

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>>11571842
I would love to watch her again if she drops her kiara voice. Her normal voice is great for listening.

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>>11555466
normalfags love when she abuses and degrades them

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Ina is gentle and kind, but has a cheeky, fun side when she's collabing with friends like Sana. Compared to the other Myth girls, who are all a handful of bitchy, untalented, cringeworthy, twitch-level streamers, Ina is objectively the best member her gen.

[Anonymous No.]

shes one of the only EN members with a true JP personality. no cursing, no sex jokes outside of super mild ones, no weird degenrate memes, and not overly dramatic about problems she has unlike her white co workers that always seem to be pissed about something

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>>11555642
Lukewarm insult? Whats the context on that, cant seem to find anything.

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>>11555466

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>>11555514
Pretty much this

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>>11573050
>he doesn't watch HoloJP

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>>11555466
nobody has actually WATCHED an ina stream, they just use her boring personality as white noise

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>>11555514
She’s cute, nice, has clever humor, and is the most talented. Her drawing streams are impressive and comfy. She kind of deserves it. I voted for Ame too btw

[Anonymous No.]

I’m esl i want to post or reply i’m afraid of getting “esl” replies by other anon please help

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>>11571476
She is narcissistic and annoying. She is unwatchable to me. A shame because she streams frequently and clearly cares a lot about Hololive.

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can I become good at drawing if I add her streams to my background videos?

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>>11555466
Ina is my favorite from Myth, but I don't watch a lot of Myth. I honestly think that's why she wins in a poll like this, since she is the most palatable for people who primarily watch other branches. If you limited the respondents to just people with Myth oshis, the results would probably be a lot different.

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>>11571842
Kiara can be fun, the problem is she's afraid to be the heel which is odd considering her supposed love of Pekora. Like, Kiara's at her best when she's got a semi-antagonistic relationship with her chat. Her tardwrangling is legitimately the best in HoloEN.
This might sound more schizo than any actual KFP, but I think Kiara should aim to be something like the vtuber Jerma. Like, not in the sense of how much effort that psycho puts in (and she lacks the humility he does so it could easily become cynical) but just in fostering a similar chat relation.

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I think a lot of Kiara's bad reputation stems from a lot of what happened in the first 6 months and her being ESL and maybe not knowing some of the conversational norms that are shared in English speaking countries that makes her come off as rude or condescending. Kiara did put in a lot of work to improve herself and her image and has really grown the most out of everyone in Myth as a person and as streamer. Of course, she still has things she can improve on, but who doesn't?

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>>11576497
>>11576189
>>>Myth Pekora

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>>11574398
Anon we're talking about Kiara, not Mori

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>>11555466
She's the least offensive in terms of who she is and what she does. She's mostly not doing "edgy" jokes like Gura, she's not got a screechy voice like Kiara, she's not a deep voiced wigger like Calli, and she's not a gamer gremlin like Ame.

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>>11576750
I think its more that you have a very solid click between her content and her personality. Ina's main draw is art streams. You want those to be chill and quiet, because you're supposed to draw along. There's a reason Bob Ross is so famous.

I love Calli, but she's hillariously awkward and shy for a rapper. Kiara wants to smultaneously be EN Pekora but also actually looked up to. Gura doesn't know if she wants to lean into being the cute and funny shark or "edgy." And Ame... Actually, Ame is perfect for her content, it's just her content isn't on twitch.

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>>11571476
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHViryX3EF0hQ_LIRa0rtyw
Here's that specific clip channel on OP post, just skim through his popular Kiara clips and see why.
The clipnigger himself unironically has shilled his own clips here more than once also, even though there were other ongoing threads using his clips already.

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>>11574398
>>11576641
>she streams frequently and clearly cares a lot about Hololive
>Mori

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>>11573272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWte-IY2YtI

[Anonymous No.]

what is ina's reasoning for not reading superchats? do any other hololive members do this?

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>>11578330
Probably to discourage her people from sending much because she already has a job

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>>11578330
Fubuki and Suisei

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>>11556604
Her new shit is slightly better only because she's less involved in it

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>>11555466
Cute pointy ears

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>>11555466
Inafags have terminally horrible taste. The vast majority of them just watch her because muh comfy, and parrot the INAFF pun shit because it's the closest thing their oshi has to having a personality.

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>>11578330
Would you read SCs for hours when you could be streaming vidya or something else?

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>>11579014
yes , because that would show you caring about your fan instead of her laughing at you while "apologizing"

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>>11578330
>what is ina's reasoning for not reading superchats?
I dont think she's ever properly said. I remember during one of her first monetized streams, she asked everyone if they wanted her to read out the full message or not the name; and when most people were saying the full message, she had to hint at chat she didnt want to, so they changed to asking for just the name

>>11578412
I dont think Polka does either

[Anonymous No.]

I am neutral towards Ina but retards like >>11560703 are slowly making me consider disliking her. If she can't contain her fanbase that already says a lot about her.