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11552480 No.11552480 [Reply] [Original]

That's a hell of a viewcount and it keeps on rising.
Every Hololive member might as well quit if you can get these numbers as an indie.

>> No.11552530

>>11552480
But she’s blatantly ripping off a Hololive bit to get those numbers. And a shitty one at that

>> No.11552805

>>11552480
>creative freedom
>showing naked ass onstream to get coomer audience
>doing reddit meme review to get the reddit audience

>> No.11553109

>>11552480
there are multiple indies that have been getting big numbers for a while, if any Hololive member just wanted those numbers they already would have left

>> No.11553175

>>11552805
>Streamer gaining an audience

>> No.11553255

>>11553109
Name them.

>> No.11553294

>>11552480
That's less than 20% of what she got as coco, if anything why would anyone leave and potentially lose 3/4 of their fanbase when they already have it easy?

>> No.11553377

>>11552480
I finally realized it, her voices fits dopey looking characters.

>> No.11553403
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>>11552805
If Hololive supposedly "suppresses creative freedom", then why is the la creatividad a HoloEN?

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>>11552480
For meme review shit? That's pretty low
>inb4 guests
She had a lot more views before she ever invited any guests too

>> No.11553549

>>11552480
I wish Pekora would quit.

>> No.11553585

>>11553403
huh, there's somebody that take "la creatividad" meme seriously

>> No.11553630

>>11553255
Shibuya Hal
Shirayuki Reid
Ui occasionally
Uto occasionally

>> No.11553754

>>11552480
The whole point of meme review was to explain it to Japanese people who aren't familiar with them.

>> No.11553878

>>11553630
Ui always had high viewership. She's associated with Hololive though, then again so is Kson

>> No.11554512

>>11553878
she's "associated" but she's fully independent and does plenty of stuff totally unconnected to Hololive

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>>11552480
>most EOP-friendly content
>new outfit buff.
>still couldn't even break 20k
Meanwhile a midtier holo like Noel pulling near the same number while doing a debuff game.
I at least hope Kson would choose something more delinquent theme like River City Girls or that 3D delinquent beat-em-up awhile back. Hell, a Kurohyou stream is also pretty adjacent with the MC being a highschooler delinquent IIRC

>> No.11554933

>>11553403
Wow a morning show she abandoned, and paying some guy to make VR models, that's so innovative.

>> No.11554975

>>11553403
Oh? then why is she on break from burn out RUMAO

>> No.11555038

>>11554512
Yes, but how many would care enough to give a nobody a chance compared to someone associated to Hololive?

>> No.11555065
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>>11553585
>What you say with irony, I say with conviction.

>> No.11555069

>>11552805
>Keeps crying about the creative freedom rrat when it was long since killed her flat out saying it was because he was being bullied by middle management.

>> No.11555249

>>11555038
she's an established illustrator and mangaka and friends with big names like Tamaki and Maimoto. even if she had never been Subaru's mama, she would have only been a "nobody" to holofags

>> No.11555326

>>11555069
>Coco left hololive for one single reason
Watch streams, dipshit.

>> No.11555368

>>11552805
More like creative freedom to have a rig that doesn't suck ass

>> No.11555372

>>11554975
>break from burn out
>Out of nowhere voice pack for Paladins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4Ky7rAX7Ms
Don't be surprised if this whole "Break" thing is just an excuse to do offstream stuff like this or Myth anniversary.

>> No.11555433

she would call you retards for acting like this

>> No.11555469

>>11555368
This. Her current model is 100x better than corposhit like Hololive.

>> No.11555503

>>11553403
>the fucking 4k calorie shake
kek

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>>11555368
>>11555069
>>11553175
>They deflect because they can't deny she's fucking pandering to redditfags by looking at fucking REDDIT MEMES of all things

>> No.11555529

>>11552480
I pray to fucking God that Cover finally realizes that their half assed L2Ds aren't fucking cutting it anymore. Imagine if Gura's new outfit is rigged by Umishit again and we have anything remotely as bad as rhombus or the fucking hole in her shoulder again. They are a Japanese company though, so I'm not holding my breath.

>> No.11556313

>>11553294
Some of the solo reviews weren't much higher than that. Also, she's likely making as much or more money now since she only has to share with youtube and the government now.

>> No.11556369

>Indie.
>Leeching off the legacy she left in hololive.
That's far from what many indies start out with.

>> No.11556463

>>11554850
What are you talking about? Pekora was getting significantly higher viewers in FFX than her Yakuza games. The debuff could be the timing since people already sat through FFX about a month or so ago.

>> No.11556521

>>11555529
I bet Cover are shitting themselves. To think any Holo could just graduate and easily get a fancy avatar with their income, keeping a not all, but a good chunk of their former followers. This could be the final yab, considering most of them already side-stream.
Not even licenses might mitigate this since Minecraft mogs them all.

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>>11555505
More viewers than your garbage corporate oshi nijifag.

>> No.11556605

>creativity
>Reddit memes
I’m fucking dying

>> No.11556925

>>11552805
>Chink Chink
>Chink Chink Chink Chink Chink Chink Chink Chink
>Chink Chink Chink Chink Chink Chink Chink Chink

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>>11552530
It was HER fucking bit, stupid.

>> No.11557315

>>11556547
NTA but your titty streamer is only that popular because she was corporate. Cope and seethe lil guy

>> No.11557499

>>11557315
She made said corporate popular, you absolute fucking retard.

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>>11556925
Not a lot of "creative freedom" when it comes to your copeposts, eh? I thought your oshi would've inspired you to do better

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>>11556369
>leeching
>off of yourself

>> No.11557567

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rp7UPbhErE

>> No.11557600

>>11557499
Then why wasn't she this big before going corporate?

>> No.11557624

>>11557499
Miko?

>> No.11557639

>>11557520
My oshi just got a new model that mogs every single corporate model even.
Your oshi graduated on Taiwan's independence day.
Get lost, chink

>> No.11557651

>>11557600
https://twitter.com/himono_vtuber/status/1449335295539773447
She was, on Niconico

>> No.11557697

>>11557600
She literally was, retard

>> No.11557894

>>11557651
No one in the West heard about Kson before 2020. Even on NND which is basically the female zoo, she isn't even that famous, said, compared to Noel's roommate.

>> No.11557895

>>11554850
>Final Fantasy
>debuff
sure thing, KFP. just because your Tales Ambassadors streams consistently fail to grab an audience playing RPGs doesn't RPGs are a debuff for everyone else. Noel is just Noel, watch Pekora play the FFX and hit 50k viewers with every single stream

>> No.11558076

>>11557894
Hey everyone saw her bayonetta cosplay, it's just that nobody learned her name

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>>11557639
My oshi is Selen, and she is currently the Coco of her own branch. It's sad that chinks like you have to falseflag against themselves to make Cocucks look like mindless NPCs. You don't fool us, only a chink could be this uncreative with their shitposting

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>>11557895
Pekora hits big number because she's Pekora, who's only a league of her own. Unless it was something like FFVII R or the newest one, RPG would always be a debuff, especially Noel's playstyle which is at her own pace and doesn't give a shit about rushing the story.
Hell, just check Pekora's middle FF10 stream where her viewers and only rose past 30k when she's near the end.

>> No.11558255 [DELETED] 

>2021
>you people are still basedfacing to fucking reddit memes

>> No.11558263

You know her meme review was peak for views. Thats hella low compared to her history.

>> No.11558327

>2021
>you faggots are still watching le epic reddit meme reactions

>> No.11558352

>>11552530
I can't believe Kson is stealing from Coco, what nerve.

>> No.11558962

>>11553485
>comparing big hololiver to independent new vtuber
retard

>> No.11559423

>>11558962
You're not funny.
>new
She's been vtubing as Kson since 2018.

>> No.11559561

>>11552805
YEAH WHY ISN'T SHE PLAYING MINECRAFT WTF

>> No.11559680

>>11558327
>le current year
reddit reactions were stale since the days of raywilliamjohnson anon, so there was another reason they watched.

>> No.11559839

>>11558161
Pekora doesn't grind or explore much because she knows that she dying to a boss = content.
Noel isn't like that, so she takes much longer to finish RPGs, like DQ11 and 8.

>> No.11559856

>>11556521
meds right now

>> No.11560213

>>11553630
This is how I know you don't actually watch the streams. You probably saw a Reid stream with those numbers and didn't know he was providing the godview or a tourney.
>>11556463
FFX and Yakuza are both RPGs, which IMO aren't great streaming/youtube games since people who watch it are those that just want to see you react to certain parts.
>>11557499
Coco like most of Hololive didn't explode until COVID, Youtube algorithm and subbers came in. She didn't debut in 2020.

>> No.11560378

>>11557499
Aqua made it popular in Japan 3 years ago
Miko and Rushia made it popular overseas a year after that once more clipfags spawn
Not many people were watching Asacoco as you thought, many people eventually just found Coco while surfing through Hololive and saw she spoke english then subbed to her.

>> No.11560408

>>11558161
Lize Helesta also hits good numbers playing DQ. She is no Pekora but 13k average is better than Kiara's and also a good number for Lize. It just depends on your audience.
People want to watch Pekora for everything because they want to see her reaction to the game and she turns everything into a fun experience.
Kiara is only good for talking and singing. So she only gets good numbers for streams that are not really about games. She is trying so hard to be entertaining she looks more at the chat's reaction than actually reacting to the game she should react to. She should just focus on music and talking and add some short games to have fun or interact with her core audience. No JRPGs.
For JRPGs you need people who want to see the game and people who want to watch you playing it. Kiara fails at this.

>> No.11560605

>>11560408
>She is trying so hard to be entertaining she looks more at the chat's reaction than actually reacting to the game she should react to.
Not anon and even though Kiara has widely known attitude problems, she's still very entertaining to watch in her solo stream. I can't agree that statement.
>For JRPGs you need people who want to see the game and people who want to watch you playing it. Kiara fails at this.
She said on her debut she mainly wanted to play JRPGs. She surprisingly followed on her word even a year later despite her Fire Emblem streams last year getting bad numbers.

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>>She is trying so hard to be entertaining she looks more at the chat's reaction than actually reacting to the game she should react to.
>Not anon and even though Kiara has widely known attitude problems, she's still very entertaining to watch in her solo stream. I can't agree that statement.
>>For JRPGs you need people who want to see the game and people who want to watch you playing it. Kiara fails at this.
>She said on her debut she mainly wanted to play JRPGs. She surprisingly followed on her word even a year later despite her Fire Emblem streams last year getting bad numbers.

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>>11560652
Are you bored anon?

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>Are you bored anon?

>> No.11561726

>>11552480
Speaking of kson, can someone with a discord poke the Ragtag Archive faggots to finally start archiving her?

>> No.11561738

>>11552805
she streams to get the streamer audience too!

>> No.11561781

>>11552480
What an incredibly transphobic meme.

>> No.11561945

>>11553294
That 20% is probably close to the entirety of Coco's paypigs, and now she's getting 70% of the supacha rather than only 35%.

>> No.11562653

>>11561945
>70%
I thought she was going to use streamlabs?

>> No.11562684

>>11552805
>Having opinion on kson
>Gets called out as zhang

>> No.11562770

remember when people said kson would do real creative freedom next level content once she get her new model.
i remember.

>> No.11562784

>>11560378
Your timeline is all sorts of screwed up. Coco's boom didn't even have anything to do with her speaking English.

>> No.11562869

>>11560605
You are totally entitled to your opinion. If it is good entertainment for you, then good for you. But she gets bad numbers for games while others don't get bad numbers for the same games. So blaming the games does not make any sense. The only conclusion is that the games are not fitting her.

>> No.11564089

>>11562770
The Daikou era was basically just a long vacation. Now, weaponised with a top tier model she now means business.

>> No.11564350

>>11552480
>random memes
That's a big difference from reviewing Hololive memes, as shitty as they were

>> No.11564588

good for her but it will get stale in months because no genmates, no interactions to others just solo gang unlike when shes on hololive, no usaken stuff, no kizuna, no summer festival and no sports festival at least she got her "freedom"

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>>11564588
She talked about "making a team" when she showed off her new model

>> No.11564663

>>11564588
>no usaken stuff, no kizuna, no summer festival and no sports festival
She made a Minecraft server for Vtubers.

>> No.11564704

>>11564350
I'd rather take shitting on Florida than another goddamned tierlist
>>11564588
She already made plans for making her own group and collabing with outsiders

>> No.11564744

hololive idols should only enlist for the first term of their contract and graduate immediately after while advertising their indie account when they were still a holo through inconspicuous means. hololive is just a stepping stone.

Also I hate holos who don't follow hololive culture!

>> No.11565038

>>11564660
>I've washed my hands of that organization
I am a Holofag but good that about time she shits on Cover. YAGOO needs a reminder to man up and purge the company of parasites such as ch*nks and Omegatranny, or they will end up the Evergrande of Vtubing.
Inbefore some retard calls her traitor, remember Cover betrayed her first.

>> No.11565133

The appeal of it was to have someone with her to show memes to. But now she has no one, so...

>> No.11565202

>>11554850
I beg for the day I can watch one of my favorite vtubers play Kurohyou its such an underrated yakuza title

>> No.11565207

>>11564660
Her "team" will be harassed by chinks.

>> No.11565372

>>11564089
*clap* *clap*
NEXT MEME

>> No.11565402

>>11564660
>trusting shitty translators when they could have typed anything in
Coco loves Hololive and is completely loyal to them, she would only return back to them if she really needed a team back.

>> No.11565837

>>11565402
She has no grudge against Hololive or the Talents. But Cover did treat her like shit.

>> No.11565989

>>11565837
No that's /vt/ gaslighting

>> No.11566066

>>11565402
this is such bullshit and everyone knows it. She will never return for anything and she will never speak well of her time with Cover. Coco is only not getting the Hitomi Chris/Aloe treatment because the backlash from fans and talent would literally end the company.

>> No.11566658

>>11552805
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>> No.11566738

>>11552805
"creative freedom" was always a dumb narrative from jealous Amerimutt woke vtwatter cunts and will

>> No.11566745

>>11552805
>showing naked ass onstream to get coomer audience
Bullshit
Evidence?

>> No.11567223

>>11566066
Coco did not get unpersoned, even if manage-parasites like Omegatranny wanted to, because she left universally loved by the talents and retained some form of active communication with them (She's still fucking Kanata, Watame gave her a free concert ticket). In case of a potential unperson, Fubuki literally threatened a coup d'etat.

>> No.11567730

>>11567223
You're so delusional it's ridiculous

>> No.11567777

>>11553403
because not even Hololive can contain her

>> No.11567815

I feel like only a handful of Holos could say fuck it and hold ksons numbers. Alot are propped up by brand power

>> No.11567851

>>11552480
>Every Hololive member might as well quit if you can get these numbers as an indie.
I'd say 30% of Hololivers would instantly go extinct the second they go indie.

>> No.11567985

>>11567730
Is speaking the truth delusion? You should actually watch streams. Holos still deeply respect Coco and can still contact her. And Fubuki, one of the highest ranking talents, made a threat to abandon Hololive if they dare do Black Company tactics such as unpersoning her. She literally threatened Rebellion.

>> No.11568199

>>11560378
She got a vtuber live stream to go over 100k live views on her first 3d Live for the first time in Hololive history. You really can't deny that.

>> No.11568322

>>11567223
what gives fubuki so much influence? Just the fact that she's popular, well liked, and brought in some important talents? Or does she also have additional influence outside of her role as the vtuber Fubuki?

>> No.11568332

>>11552480
Meme review without a community is pointless.

>> No.11568414

>>11552480
Myth could leave as a group and do pretty well. But I imagine there are still advantages as well as opportunities for staying plugged in to Cover.

>> No.11568478

>>11568199
She was the first Vtuber to pass 100k live viewers.

>> No.11568569

>>11568322
> He really doesn't know....

Well... she is symbol of truth. She graduate with bad term will kill all good will to Cover. In Coco's case , Coco help Hololive control damage by kill all rrat.

I can say that much

>> No.11568607

>>11568478
Yes, that also.
I don't know why anons here on /vt/ keep on forgetting this fact. It was just one year ago.

>> No.11568647

>>11567985
Whobuki leaving isnt a rebellion.

>> No.11568666

>>11568569
>I can say that much
Can't speak English much though huh?

>> No.11568686

>>11568647
Oh newfags.... I assure you when Fubuki graduate in bad term will be final yab or Ragnarok day of Hololive.

>> No.11568720

>>11568666
Yes , I am ETL ( English Third language)
English' course in my country is expansive as fuck

I am sorry about that

>> No.11568747

>>11555469
It literally has the word 'Fuck' written in big brown poop letters on her jacket.

>> No.11568774

>>11568686
This. FBK is THE pillar for Hololive. Even before Coco she already was attempting to pander to EOPs once they knew they were getting those viewers. FBK's impact on China was also huge but newfags don't know/don't care. Coco and Marine are close to having the skills needed to be such a pillar but not there yet.

>> No.11568881

>>11568774
>>11568686
this. newfags and shit stirrers are the only ones who act like this isnt true

>> No.11568907

>>11560378
No. The main reason Coco shot up WAS Asacoco. You can even see the interview with Tamaki. No chuuba were taking up that timeslot and doing a show like that because its a paaaaain in the ass. Luckily she also had senpais who were fine with being featured on her stuff because some other corpos couldn't pull off the same thing.
>>11562770
What creative shit can you even do as a chuuba? I feel those saying that are just people who never really watched streamers.

>> No.11568911

>>11568747
Kson just told story behind the scene about Yaman and Himono sensei. It sound like....

Kson : Thank you ! but I asked only rigging squatting position. It is ok if you rigging standing position for me too?

Himono : Shut up bitch ( Rigging more and free to Kson anyway and top quality)

Kson : but Yaman sensei must draw more mountian of picture for this too.

Yaman : Shut up bitch ( drew more pictures and sent to Himono)

Fucking chad both of them

>> No.11568933

This bait is so fucking good

>> No.11568946

>merely pretending

>> No.11568950

>>11568774
> we have same opinion about Fubuki

Are you friendly fire?

>> No.11568958

>>11568881
She's like the perfect corpo vtuber, a good company woman and seems like a good friend too. Before the big 2020 boom, you could usually see her in the chats of other holos and you could interpret that as her supporting her coworkers because she was the most popular at the time or as her being a scary senpai observing them. Chat full of sexbots that eventually learnt to copy what human viewers type too.

>> No.11568978

>>11568950
ESLchama, he's agreeing with you.

>> No.11568989

>>11568950
I started my sentence with "This". Which meant I supported your statement. Work on your English comprehension friendo.

>> No.11569015

>>11568933
There's no such thing as good bait anymore Because people replying are also thinking they're baiting. So we get an endless cycle of anons thinking they're baiting someone but those people also think they're baiting.

>> No.11569024

>>11568978
>>11568989
Thank you for pointing it

>> No.11569069

>>11555069
Do you have a clip of her saying it? I'm slightly interested in listening to it as I haven't watched Kson at all.

>> No.11569092

Don't forget to sage your posts people.

>> No.11569139

>>11568569
I really don't know, that's why I'm asking.
I'm EOP and I wouldn't rep thousands of hours of JP streams to eek out whatever subtle indications of her influence there.
I'm literally asking if she's influential because of her popularity and respect among the other talents, or if it's because she has executive-level decision making in Cover.

>> No.11569156

>>11569092
Nobody sagerus anon

>> No.11569184

>>11569069
It is in member stream anon.
You ask too late.
It call 2 hours of silence when Coco hinted a lot of what happen behind the scene and real reason why she graduated.

I can say middle managers and Board of content have problem with Coco

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>>11569139
>I really don't know, that's why I'm asking.
>I'm EOP and I wouldn't rep thousands of hours of JP streams to eek out whatever subtle indications of her influence there.
>I'm literally asking if she's influential because of her popularity and respect among the other talents, or if it's because she has executive-level decision making in Cover

>> No.11569236

>>11557136
Not even hers, it was Haachama's.
She only one-upped her in comprehension and consistency.

>> No.11569239

>>11569139
Let me say....

She is the spine and canary bird of Hololive

>> No.11569258

>>11569139
there's probably dozens of clips of fubuki in talking about "if i leave hololive in bad terms, then you should panic" or something to that effect. search it on youtube. there's also so many instances, pre-en (when she was in the lead to the first 1m subs in hololive) where she'd commentate people's streams (shion and marine late collab), pop into someone's chat to give encouragement, direct her viewers to politely watch her kouhai, etc.

hell, with coco herself - fubuki has a HUGE chinese audience. HUGE. when coco came back from suspension fubuki was the first to jump into the next episode of asacoco to record, she kept tweeting her support for coco, she kept letting everyone know she stood with her and not the antis who supported her.

>> No.11569283

It’s funny how some Holo only fans supported her until she left, and now that she’s doing similar stuff, hate her for leaving anyway. Her protection from much criticism was simply because of the Holo label.

>> No.11569307

>>11569236
This. Haato did looking at meme shit first. Coco did the reddit stuff first tho.

>> No.11569315

>>11567985
Saying Fubuki is the proverbial "canary in the coal mine" is no longer valid. Hololive became the very black company that Fubuki said she would leave if it ever got like that. We've seen how they treated Coco after her return, how they are treating their spin off branches, the harassment issues on their talents, even their lack of action for doxxing of their talents, we've heard nothing from Fubuki. Either she saw that they let Coco go without batting an eye or she was given an deal for her to be quiet. Either way, Fubuki is not to be trusted.

>> No.11569327

>>11569283
some holo fans are retards and hate everyone outside of it. but i think it's safe to say a lot of kson's current fanbase came from hololive fans

>> No.11569355

>>11569283
>Her protection from much criticism
That was mostly due to any criticism led to people being called zhangs. Like how bad seeds among Nijis are IMPOSTORS! Anons always shit on reddit review but they'll still eat it up because honestly all chuuba faggots are the same regardless of what social media you use.

>> No.11569365

>>11552805
You are literally describing Coco doing Coco things before Hololive told her to tone it down after West Taiwan threw a bitch tantrum.

>> No.11569377

>>11569315
fubuki was possibly the most supportive of coco outside of gen 4 since her return after suspension. without batting an eye she chose to show up on asacoco to do a bit and repeatedly tweeting how happy she was coco was back, when everyone knew she had a massive bilibili audience. take your meds.

>> No.11569435

>>11569258
True and in Chinese side....

Bilibili TL team gave Fubuki ultimatum which help them kill Coco from inside or burn everything Fubuki's asset and income from China.

Fubuki threw more halt her income and fuck off to Bilibili side immedieatly. That why she made " Are you happy?" Clip and anti spam " Are you happy? " to Fubuki.

I was there that day

>> No.11569489

>>11569315
>even their lack of action for doxxing of their talents
Anon, as someone who's been in some discords that no longer exist. Thats false. Both Holo and Niji have been cracking down on that shit but its honestly impossible to stop because that stuff gets too much views. There'll always be someone new to try and profit from it for as long as they can.

>> No.11569513

>>11552480
>Every Hololive member might as well quit if you can get these numbers as an indie.

>every hololive member can do what the most superchatted being on the planet can do
OK, man. Sure.
This is some fucking bootstraps shit.

>> No.11569520

This just proves she never needed Hololive.

>> No.11569558

>>11568911
It's like the Fanza cover where the mixing, the video and all else was put together by a group of diehard fans who organized everything together for her and refused to take her money. Lots of love going around.

>> No.11569583

>>11569435
ESL-to-English translation: Fubuki's chinese audience told her that she either supports them or Coco, no compromise. Fubuki, without second thought, chose Coco. Her chat got botted and she sarcastically said "Are you happy?" to them.

>> No.11569584

>>11569520
She wasn't getting those numbers pre-Hololive anon. Kson already existed before Coco.

>> No.11569604

>>11569520
This just isn't true. If not for hololive she would still be a literal who. Coco for sure played a part in Hololive's boom, but to pretend that Coco's didn't also benefitted from being in Hololive is just delusional.

>> No.11569625

>>11569520
Like >>11569604 and >>11569327 said, most of K-son's current fans come from fans of Coco, who many of which were fans of Hololive prior to gen 4.

>> No.11569638

>>11569584
Both Coco and Hololive need to thank subbers, COVID and youtube algorithm. All vtubers should thank COVID and the algo too. 2020 wasn't just big for Hololive, it was big for vtubers in general and it wasn't their content that started the surge.

>> No.11569670

>>11569489
Agreed. But to be fair much of the crackdown has to start with people in those servers reporting, which necessitates infiltrators reporting to Cover and Discord.

>> No.11569693

>>11569315
Coco talked with Fubuki anon.....
She talked with Fubuki about what happened and Fubuki decide to accept her dicision.

Coco aganist who want to graduate after her like Marien and Haachama.

Ah..... AFTER, COCO GRADUATED
THAT FUBUKI UNARCHIVED STREAM

> What is Fubuki fear the most?
> She fear Coco hate her
> but Fubuki cry because they are still friend and Coco still like them as comrade.
> It broke everyone who saw Fubuki cry that day.

Jesus fuck Christ god... that stream....

>> No.11569727

>>11569693
Oh fuck. I remember that. I didn't know what was happening because, kek, EOP, but I read the translator in chat. Jesus, man

>> No.11569745

>>11556547
getting depicted as Ash is high fucking praise noone can tell me otherwise.

>> No.11569776

>>11569745
Ash is the best protagonist.

>> No.11569814

>>11569236
>>11569307
>>11557136
>>11552530
Weren't "normal" Youtubers doing shitty reddit react videos before 2016?

>> No.11569829

>>11569583
Thank you anon

>> No.11569883

>>11552480
she was already know for being Kson even before she left, also she was already kind famous before joining, so unless a more unknow(the person behind the avatar i mean) one leave, haachama for example(since she isnt a public figure like kson), we wont know, but for sure none of then will do bad if they able to show that its really then

>> No.11569995

>>11569583
> not Chinese audiences
> Bilibili translation team

Hololive must use BiliBili TL team to operate Hololive channel in Bstation anon. Not employer of Hololive

That why they can rebel in Bilibili side by take all Hololive channel as hostage

>> No.11570023

The fact that Coco has good relations with every single talent from before her graduation ANDA Yagoo himself really shows how fucking awful middle management has to be. Staff and producers like A-chan are competent and well liked. Yagoo clearly loves Hololive, going out on events and personally modelling merch and is friends with a few of the talents. But I don't think anyone has said anything substantially nice about middle managers beyond them doing their job - which is fucking infrequent.

>> No.11570075

>>11552480
Quitting Hololive would be a monumentally retarded decision at this point, especially if you are in the JP branch.
Being in a group like Hololive is a lot more than a boost in CCV on YouTube. It means access to opportunities that even the best indies can only dream of.
Wake me up when Kson is able to organize live concerts, appears in TCGs and sign to major record labels and place in Oricon charts.

>> No.11570105

>>11569995
I remember many bilibili fan groups were agreeing with the translators though, and in some cases even organized campaigns where the fans (not just translators) threatened to harass Fubuki and other Holos if they even just mentioned Coco passively.

>> No.11570135

>>11570075
All this, plus the fact that K-son never had the numbers she has now before she joined Hololive. Most of her current fans were fans of Coco, who were mostly also fans of Hololive girls in general.

>> No.11570173

>>11570075
But hey vShojo started a Minecraft server so they can't be too far behind from live events, concerts and partnering with baseball leagues, right?

I'm kidding, they'll make a porn.

>> No.11570216

>>11568686
FBK quits and almost 100% sure Mio and OkaKoro leave soon after since she got them into Hololive.

>> No.11570237

>>11570075
Holos don't sign to record labels anyways, they're all self published through Cover.
I'd say the steady stream of sponsorships is a bigger deal.
>>11570173
Silvervale and Melody already make porn.

>> No.11570307

>>11570105
Because in the end, you can't do anything if you live in CN. Even Coco has acknowledged that she still has fans in CN. But when you live in a country like that, you're fucked.
>>11570173
Vshojo needs to solidify their position among EN chuubas with their next gen/batch. Its still unclear as to who the #2 is.

>> No.11570328

>>11570105
It is Bilibili 's regulation anon

If you want to do bussiness in Bstation, You must pay for space and man power of Bilibili but you will not have power in CN side. You must use power pass them to your channel.

That how Bilibili work unlike Youtube which person of Hololive can do it directly

>> No.11570355

>>11570307
>Because in the end, you can't do anything if you live in CN. Even Coco has acknowledged that she still has fans in CN. But when you live in a country like that, you're fucked.
Yeah. I honestly feel bad for the good ones left in a sea of bugs and zhangs

>> No.11570407

>>11570237
Sora is with JVC

>> No.11570454

>>11569377
Don't forget she was the only one to call in during her totsu meme review.
>Oh shit, a bridge!
You can see the relief hit Coco at that moment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUZIPfKZtU

>> No.11570535

>>11570407
Sauce

>> No.11570625

>>11570535
https://www.jvcmusic.co.jp/tokinosora/65163/
How fucking stupid are you?

>> No.11570720

>>11570023
This is evidence of how much parasites have infested Cover's management. Juno S. And Omegatranny are some of them. Cover only survives by the mercy of their talents; if they dare turn coat they will be destroyed.

>> No.11570796

>>11570625
I misread your post as "Sora is in a JAV" since the post you were replying to had the word porn in it. So, I'm very stupid my apologies

>> No.11570886

Based.
Gura and Pekora killer right here
Go Kson, fuck these holobronies up

>> No.11570975

>>11570720
Sometimes I wonder if Yagoo's openess and willingness to be the butt of jokes has had the adverse effect of making middle management not respect him when (if) he tries to rein them in

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>>11570796
All good. Here's a picture of Sora's album cover to cleanse your mind.

>> No.11571349

>>11570975
Definitely. The JP talent like him but don't see him as the hard nosed CEO typical of Japanese corporations. I'm sure management sees him as more a spokesman and founder than their own boss.

>> No.11572828

>>11568322
>He doesn't know about Director Shirakami

>>11570720
Spoonfeed please? Who the fuck is Juno S.?

>> No.11573406

>>11570720
I've had the misfortune of having knowledge of the rrats that schizos spew here and this is the first time I've ever heard of a Juno, anon. if you tell me to do my reps I'm going to assume you're just making up shit

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>>11569604
>a literal who

>> No.11574864

>>11574638
Who the fuck even still uses NND?
120k views 5 years ago, yes, a literal who

>> No.11574881

Again who the fuck is Juno S.

>> No.11576313

>>11571008
looks like a NTR game title screen

>> No.11576674

>>11553403
AmeBee will surpass Amelia Watson. AmeBee is not owned by Cover. You can imagine the rest.

>> No.11576726

Middle management don't care about hololive as much as the talents, YAGOO, A-chan, or Shinove, they're only in it to make quick buck with minimum effort, the same kind of parasites you see everywhere.
Support the talents, they're working harder than those parasites.

>> No.11577212

>>11576726
You would expect them to have as much excitement about the company as their CEO does but corporations can be shit.

>> No.11577254

>>11576726
Makes sense. Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, the degenerate I manage makes a hundred bucks.

>> No.11577322

Anon I am begging me tell me who the fuck Juno S. is, I will literally get on my knees and suck your dick if that is what you want.

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>>11552805

Still better than Minecraft or Mario Party for 90% of the streams.

>> No.11577408

>>11553403
Are you for fucking real? Ame does just what typical twitch streamers do it just seems new to you because you only watch hololive.

>> No.11577423

>>11557136
It was Pewdiepie's bit you moron

>> No.11577441

>>11564588
She's going to collab for sure.

>> No.11577470
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I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOUR TWITCH STREAMERS AND PEWDIEPIE TELL ME WHO THE FUCK IS JUNO S. RIGHT NOW YOU STUPID NIGGERS

>> No.11577536

>>11577470
Not that anon but he must've meant this person.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/juno-s-a0884830?trk=org-employees_profile-result-card_result-card_full-click

>> No.11577549

Hololive drones are so fucking hilarious. It's so obvious you idiots don't watch anyone else. I used to love Hololive but post Coco shitstorm they became so safe and fucking boring. Literally every other company is better now.

>> No.11577623

>>11577549
i cant enjoy hololive anymore. i still watch holostars and indies, and ONE talent from tsunderia but thats it.

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>>11577536
https://jp.linkedin.com/in/juno-s-a0884830

>> No.11577686

>>11552480
>As an indie.
She built her entire audience from Hololive, became number 1 super chatted in the world, and then just left. She isnt an indie.

>> No.11577718

>>11577678
Yeah, pretty much.

>> No.11577755

>>11566658
American, right?

>> No.11578282

>>11552480
Hololive is much better off without this bitch

>> No.11578325

>>11578282
she's much better off
hololive after losing one of their top earners? not so much

>> No.11579776

>>11578282
支那

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>>11552480
still nothing compared to the queen of indies
THE MOGGERS OF MOGS
THE BIG P P OF YOUTUBE

>> No.11579867

>>11579827
Shitposting aside is she an indie?

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>>11579867

>> No.11580157

>>11580023
Good for her. Feels bad that my oishi is the one that never had a proper graduation. But if Pmaru is doing good, I'm all good.

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>>11570075
Do you really think money is everything or something? Just look how many people in Hololive get depressed. Yes they get the numbers but at the same time they have to deal with retarded corp crap that keeps getting worse and worse. Coco talked about it, Kiara talked about it, Gura talked about it, Ame talked about it.

If Fubuki was willing to throw away like 40% of her revenue by supporting Coco do you really think those other girls tired with Cover wouldn't do the same in similar situation?

Hololive became a kiddie friendly corp. If you don't stream Minecraft, Apex, Nintendo game #7436583 or karaoke/zetsu what are you even supposed to do? None of the actually creative content is allowed. Ame had to tard wrangle those fucking idiots and pay for everything herself to do the 3d collab. And now she's a burned out husk.

>> No.11580295

>>11552480
I still hate this bitch.

>> No.11580340

>>11552805
Money

>> No.11580385

>>11568647
>whobuki
this bait deserves more replies

>> No.11580439

If things keep going this way I give Hololive one more year.

>> No.11580459

>>11580200
Why yes money is everything, especially when referring to the industry that is this board's topic which is centered around money, motivated by money, and was sought after due to money. All that talk of passion and keeping the audience happy or in love is an illusion to fuel the money flow.

>> No.11580484

>>11580295
didn't ask

>> No.11580515

>>11580200
>family friendly
Tell that to all those ASMR streams. Hell, for all creative content she could get now, Kson still did the same thing she did back then

>> No.11580693

>>11580515
And what she did back then would not be allowed in current Hololive.

>> No.11580792

>>11580200
>Do you really think money is everything or something?
How fucking naive are you? First of all, Fubuki did not lose any revenue by supporting Coco, she still does the same thing she always did. Second, Coco was the second biggest Holo of them all, and now she does half the numbers she did in Hololive, at most. Can you fucking imagine what kind of a nosedive someone like Matsuri would have if she left Hololive? She could kiss her NEET life goodbye and start looking for a job.
Don't fucking make idol business of all things into some fun little hobby where everyone is family. It's a fucking job, and a pretty ruthless one at that. And Hololive is a stairway to big success unlike anything else.
>None of the actually creative content
What is creative content to you, fucking meme reviews? Pee-pee-poo-poo jokes? Or AsaCoco 1.0, which almost killed Coco herself? You talk about creative content, but you never give any examples of creative content beyond what was already done in Hololive.

>> No.11580822

>>11580515
Eh, she did only just 'debut' a day ago. She's already said she's going to do another morning show which was her thing back in Holo until the time she put it on what was supposed to be a short break for Holofes practice and then wasn't allowed to bring it back or even do a replacement show.

>> No.11580832

>>11580693
Such as?

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>>11580459
Money is everything when you are scrapping to survive. Not when you are a streamer comfortably making more than enough.

>> No.11580949

>>11580693
Like what? Playing low quality kusoge? Watchalong? Karaoke? Zatsu? Meme review? Nice creativity you got there.
The only thing new is gunpla streams but she pretty much just snapfit everything and I can find a bunch of female pro builder that did everything from custom paint to scratch build new parts. At least do a watchalong for the damn anime those kits came from so it isn't obvious she chased after the typical amateur thot builder who don't know what Titan color is and only showing her tits

>> No.11581058

>>11580792
>First of all, Fubuki did not lose any revenue by supporting Coco

Half of her money was coming from China. She lost all of it. Aqua lost 30%.

>> No.11581060

>>11553403
Ame and Gura will both leave around the same time once they get fed up with cover. They know they're being restricted right now but they could do great as indies after all the exposure.

>> No.11581128

>>11580843
If a person's basic needs are not being met they would be taking proper jobs. They don't stream to survive they stream to afford a luxury.

>> No.11581138

>>11552480
>meme review
Yikes

>> No.11581174

>>11581058
>source: my ass
They were getting fuck-all from BiliBili. That website ate up virtually all revenue, and they only did it because it didn't take any effort to re-host content there in the first place. That's why losing it was not a big deal to anyone. The growing EN branch was far, far more promising.

>> No.11581322

>>11580949
You seem confused, souchou is a newcomer who only debuted this Saturday. The gunpla sets by the way were all gifts from fans due to a running gag she had as Coco and putting them together on stream was fan service for them specifically.

>> No.11581568

>>11581322
No wonder those streams got dropped after 3 kits built. So no new "creative" content at all then?
Not even Judgement stream? I was hoping for that since RGG really improved the combat system for those two games compared to Yakuza 6

>> No.11581693

>>11569236
>comprehension
Uhm, Migo could do a meme-review and understand as much as Coco and Haachama.

>> No.11581774

>>11557639
>Taiwan's independence da
Taiwan doesn’t have an Independence Day

>> No.11581808

>>11581174
Faggot there is official data for this. FBK was getting a lot from collabs in china.

>> No.11581903

>>11552480
Kson is the ultimate leech. She copied Kiryu Coco's voice, content and even meme aesthetics in order to piggyback off someone else's hard work. Imagine leeching that hard from Hololive and actually succeeding as a result. It's Uto all over again. Why can't indies just get their own style instead of copying someone else's?

>> No.11581930

>>11581568
Again, you don't get it. She only just debuted. Not sure what the deal with this hostility is when you seem not to even be aware that she's always been open about it being a long preparation period. "Creative differences" doesn't mean every stream is supposed to blow your mind but a morning show like she has mentioned planning out is absolutely something she couldn't have done in Holo anymore. Judgment too is something she has repeatedly said she'd be playing after her debut.

>> No.11581962

>>11553294
Having full autonomy and not having to pay a useless agency is worth it.

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>>11581568

>> No.11581996

>>11552480
Is she still doing her streams in 99% Japanese?

>> No.11582056

>>11581982
>>11581930
Okay, I'll look forward to it then

>> No.11582139

>>11552480
Not a vtuber

>> No.11582281

Can you faggots cut out the "she just debuted" shit already? None of you are dumb enough to actually believe it.

>> No.11582287

>>11582139
seethe + cope

>> No.11582290

>>11582139
Yeah it's a dead bat, yummy!

>> No.11582415

>>11582290
Reddit

>> No.11582489

>>11582281
That's on you for not being in the know though. She had been saying for months that the new daikou would be her debut and that she'd be at low power mode till then. She didn't even do collabs.

>> No.11582524

So much autism over numbers...

>> No.11582889

>>11582489
Same person
Same channel
Same content

>> No.11582935

>>11582489
whos going to collab with her
anyone who does will get a bad reputation

>> No.11583284

>>11582935
>anyone who does will get a bad reputation
In China. A country that will turn on them anyway, sooner or later.
Might as well rip off the bandage now, and get it over with.

>> No.11583325

>>11582935
What reputation? Her mama got a huge popularity boost.

>> No.11584404

>>11569184
I'm extremely confident that a cover employee posts here regularly.

>> No.11584634

>>11552805
Based

>> No.11584638

>>11581808
China was getting a lot from collabs in China. Not Fubuki. Fubuki would not even be allowed to make money there officially.

>> No.11584747

oh wow look kson's doing the exact same fucking thing as before and it's still just as boring
such creative freedom

>> No.11585268

>>11552480
>might as well off quit hololive
i assure you she won't get those numbers if she was never in hololive

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>>11552480

>Chin chang hanji, chin chong chiru, kim jong in the dungeon, I swear to god I bang paul, fool I'm not touching you

>> No.11586229

>>11585268
she was one of the people responsible for giving hololive their big numbers, you illiterate esl

>> No.11586850

>>11552480
It's less than she did as Coco. She got a massive buff from just debuting her new Live2D, she doesn't usually get those numbers.

>> No.11587641

>>11586229
>she was one of the people responsible for giving hololive their big numbers, you illiterate esl
Holo already got a boost since their 3rd gen day. 2020 only boost that further thanks to algorithm, chink flu and clips.

>> No.11588254

>>11587641
goddamn it's actually fucking hard to read this shit

>> No.11588687

>>11588254
>>11586229
Ever considered that you might be the retard here? What that anon typed wasn't even that bad. It sure as hell wasn't hard to comprehend.

>> No.11588767

>>11588687
retards like you who have such low standards for english are part of the problem. no wonder this board is fucking dog shit

>> No.11588841

>>11588767
Use proper capitalization and punctuation you fucking ESL mongrel.

>> No.11588962

>>11582935
Soiling your reputation with the Chinese audience doesn't matter at all, China's going to make watching vtubers illegal anyway for promoting degeneracy once whatever cultural administrator decides such things learns vtubers exist.

>> No.11588967

>>11588841
you're cute, but that's completely irrelevant. just look at this post >>11587641
capitalized and punctuated, but still esl drivel

>> No.11589024

>>11588254
They learn English 60 hour a week in education camp

>> No.11589029

>>11588841
using formality when it aint warranted is the sign of ESLism btw shows lack of confidence and/or experience in appropriating your speech to the context at hand
its also the sign of retards who for some mysterious reason take pride in writing Shakespearean on a shitty chan board

>> No.11589187

>>11588967
Nah. You found basic English sentences "fucking hard to read". (You) are the only ESL I see here.
>>11589029
>Having low standards is the problem.
>Having high standards is retarded.
???????
I would be more inclined to agree with you if anon didn't chimp out over small mistakes. The ESL meme is getting old and stale.

>> No.11589325

>>11589187
>basic """"""""English""""""""" sentences
lol only if you're exceedingly permissive you could pass them off as english, which is exactly the problem here.

>> No.11589401

>>11589325
>lol only if you're exceedingly permissive could you pass them off as english, which is exactly the problem here.
FTFY. Get off this board you ESL

>> No.11589460
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>>11567815
even kson can't hold her numbers, She'll get a honeymoon period due to the l2d then it'll dip again.
Part of Holo's enjoyment is the interaction between members, Not just 1 person playing vidya or whatever she plans to do.

Plus she's propped up by the Taiwan drama so she has a fans for that and some loyal paypigs from her Coco days.
It was the best decision for both parties imo, I don't think Coco is that into the idol life like the others are.

>> No.11589492

>>11589401
the irony is that your tryharding is a pretty clear sign that you're esl, as >>11589029 pointed out. as if it wasnt already obvious from your anal hurt over being called an esl, of course

>> No.11589569

>>11589492
Nah, it's my first language. Up to you to believe it or not. It just amuses me to call out anons like you with bad english that drove the ESL meme into the ground.

>> No.11589631

>>11589569
so you just had a whole sperg meltdown over someone else being called esl? i dont know which is worse

>> No.11589709

>>11589631
I had my fun. No skin off my back. Also, where do you think we are?

>> No.11589714

>>11552805
Tatsuniggers perpetually coping in the replies

>> No.11589841

I seriously have to wonder why she actually left if she's doing the same shit.
Was it to hopefully take away some chinese heat from the rest of the girls? Did she just hate the corporate structure itself? In terms of freedom there doesn't seem to be any change at all, she's not playing new games she couldn't or doing any wild collabs she couldn't have done before.
I guess time will tell if she does break away from the same patterns as before but so far she could have just stayed in Hololive and everything would still be the same.

>> No.11589870

>>11589460
EOPs like you think Coco ceased to exist outside of collabs, meme reviews and translated clips. That's why it seems mindblowing to you that she has a loyal audience who followed her after Hololive. By the way, how long is this "honeymoon" period supposed to last? I remember back when July when people like you would swear she was gonna be begging to go back after a month, but she's still topping the SC rankings ever since. Quite a long honeymoon, isn't it.

>> No.11589915

>>11589870
>former #1 superchatted in the world still gets load of superchats.
we have a smart one here.

>> No.11589960

>>11589915
I do agree that all the people who thought this wouldn't be the case were pretty stupid

>> No.11590064

>>11552480
Some people prefer the corporate environment over doing everything by themselves. They will never quit Hololive willingly just to try being indie again.
I'm happy Coco took the risk and I'm glad it's working for her.

>> No.11590127

She had an audience as kson before hololive.
She had an audience as kson after hololive.
This isn't the insane debut some of you are making it out to be, she didn't have to start back at 0 again after leaving hololive.

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>>11552480

>> No.11590254

>>11552530
It's a pewdiepie bit you fucking faggot

>> No.11590322

>>11565402
It's an accurate translation

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>>11570075
>oricon charts
>japanese record labels
>nipland taxes
>virtual concerts
incledebble

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11590577

>>11552480
Kson literally had more viewers than Pekora yesterday and we're talking about the second most viewed female streamer in the world here
Reddit dragon is going places

>> No.11590694

>>11590577
It pains me that we'll never see them together again.

>> No.11590716

>>11590694
Chama is on the brink of leaving Hololive too.

>> No.11590739

>>11589841
none of us have any real idea. she's definitely will have a much easier time with permissions (she doesn't need them). she also doesn't have to sanitize her content. her current meme review is an example of that.

>> No.11590766

>>11590716
Quiet rrat. Chama is merely having a hard time in college. Please understand.

>> No.11590790

>>11589870
She's only going to keep growing. If not for the danger of chink haters I bet other corps like Vshojo or Niji would collab with her too. But now with Chinese vtuber market basically dead maybe they will anyways.

>> No.11590802

>>11590739
Yeah she doesn't need to handle memes with copyrighted shit as if they were radioactive anymore and she can in theory play any game, but she isn't doing that so far.
It seems more like an extra bonus from leaving than an actual motivation to leave.

>> No.11590832

>>11590766
See you in few months.

>> No.11590859

>>11589841

Did you watch her Holotalk with Kiara? She sounded utterly done with Cover management and was telling other girls to stay strong.

>> No.11590948

Kson academy when?

>> No.11591129

>Aqua went on hiatus, she's leaving!!!
>Shion went on hiatus, she's leaving!!!
>chama went on hiatus, she's leaving!!!
>Ayame went on hiatus, she's leaving!!!
>Then all came back, the silence was deafening.
Then we are back to square one.

>> No.11591183

>>11590859
So she was just pissed at Cover?
Was it due to how they handled her china situation?

>> No.11591204

The antis are riled up

>> No.11591228

>>11566745
nta but here's your sauce you lazy piece of shit
https://youtu.be/85zvAA8VJ0c?t=8860

>> No.11591249

>>11552805
Eek! Naked ass? Why, how scandalous! I must simply clutch my pearls in outrage!

>> No.11591299

>>11591129
>>Then all came back

To stream 1-2 times a week while sounding dead inside. What a win. But we got scripted minecraft wooohooo!

>> No.11591449

>>11591129
because they are afraid of making the jump. And now there's a trailblazer who proved it's doable.
Expect Haachama to be the first one to leave.

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>>11590577
>Kson literally had more viewers than Pekora yesterday
Did she really get over 40k live? I remember it peaked at 15-20k at most before I tuned out.

>> No.11591629

>>11591525
Kson streamed for just an hour and at one point in that hour she had around 15K and Pekora like 10K at that exact time

>> No.11591924

>>11571349
After Coco graduated , many talents just had met Yagoo in the first time and from Towa they can talk to Yagoo directly if anyone bully them this time.

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>>11591629
Pretty sure none of Pekora's streams during the last few days dipped below 15k line average, unless you mean Kson's peak stream is about the higher than Pekora's dip which is at the beginning of streams.

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>>11591629
If comparing the scale of new outfit/semi debut, Botan's 1mil anniversary one is still above that, with around the same duration of about 1 hour.

>> No.11592081

>>11580792
> 60% of her income came from China

Anon.... your China arc reps....

>> No.11592173

>>11580949
Do you ever watch her anon?
Gunpla stream is fan service for Tatsunokos who sent present.

>> No.11592403

>>11591949
Peko's yesterday Judgement stream definitely went below 12K at one point. I watch youtube on my cable TV app so maybe it shows different numbers than on the desktop website. Next time i'll take a picture of the TV with my phone those numbers you posted don't align with the numbers i usually see
>>11591996
A 1 million celebration is much more relevant than a meme review so it makes sense

>> No.11592409

>>11591228
> showing
> accident reveal

Where is her intention to show her ass anon? If you are gentleman you must pretent not see anything and do not make her feel bad.

Are you ever have real girlfriend in real life?

>> No.11592457

>>11591449
I'd honestly be happy for her if she did.
She'd have more freedom to do dumb shit and she would be able to show herself if she wanted. Hololive won't even let them show their hand if they want to do a cooking stream they have to wear rubber gloves.

>> No.11592516

>>11592173
I check on her once in a while. She's not my oshi and I don't hate her but her regular content even during her Asacoco 1.0 doesn't appeal to me.
>>11592403
>A 1 million celebration is much more relevant than a meme review so it makes sense
Even then with her sub number and the recent debut buff plus meme review being one of her popular streams that appealed to both Nips and EOPs, I'd expect higher number

>> No.11593100

>>11592516
I think you misunderstand about " creative freedom " mean in Coco situation but that ok I understand.

> It is not about revolutionary of Vtuber
> think as Coco want to play classical music but Cover want to play heavy metal music and 50-50 play K-pop is not solve any problem.

Source : 2hours of silence

>> No.11593247

>>11552480
>had over 40k with almost every meme review she did as Coco
>10k now

AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
OH NO NO NO THE RECLINE IS REAL

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This bitch has four threads on /vt/ right now. The Coco metronome, ticking away since December 28th, 2019.

>> No.11593383

>>11553403
Amelia is clever about it and not a complete bitch and whore about it like Coco was/is. I came to respect the gremlin with time and as I'm climbing off this rabbit hole.

>> No.11593421

>>11553585
I don't take your halfie literal camslut arrogant cunt seriously.

>> No.11593454

Hey, Tatsunokos, is it true HFZ OP was so devastated over Coco's graduation he became a full on Kson simp?

>> No.11593470

>>11593421
Kek seething

>> No.11593646

>>11593383
Coco is Big boss
Ame is Solid snake

>> No.11593674

>>11554850
Kson has no real mettle, it's just inflated ideas from the fags, vapid as herself, who follow her. While Danchou is all kinds of based and un-fuck-giving while still getting those GAINS.

>> No.11594185

>>11593674
you sound like a moron

>> No.11594824

>>11591449
Yeah they're definitely leaving soon... aaaaaaany day now. Just you wait!

>> No.11595001

>>11557315
And an actual whore who self-doxxed to attract coomers with her godly looks.

>> No.11595233

>>11560408
>Kiara is only good for talking and singing
She’s shit at singing though.
>>11560605
>She surprisingly followed on her word even a year later despite her Fire Emblem streams last year getting bad numbers.
If Kiara didn’t play Fire Emblem like a brain dead retard people might of watched.

>> No.11595265

>>11594824
Haachama jump off already but Coco and Kanata stop her

Coco never want anyone graduate after her and we should stop this matter

>> No.11595610

>>11577423
pewdiepie actually stole it from Fantano

>> No.11595648

>>11595610
(and I say this as a lifelong Fantano hater)

>> No.11596009

>>11562770
Remember when she was truly creative? I don't.

>> No.11596382

>>11577254
More like Boss makes a hundred, the talent makes 50, and the managers makes 20. Management wouldn't have any work if it weren't for the degen talents.

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