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>be hololive
>introduce their hotly anticipated EN branch
>everyone is beloved
>everyone builds a rapport over a year and incorporates themselves neatly into the hololive family
>once no one feels like a stranger or shoehorned, hololive introduces EN gen 2 and repeats

>be Nijisanji
>introduce a kinda wanted but more or less meh EN branch
>it does well; rush out gen 2 as fast as humanly possibly
>gen 1 had no time to establish themselves before they're already competing with three others
>faster than greased pig shit, fart out gen 3

>be /vt/
>WHY ISN'T NIJISANJI MORE POPULAR HOLOBRONIES LOLOLOLOL!!1

>> No.11016773

>>11016730
whomst quote?

>> No.11016785
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>> No.11016839

>>11016730
I didn't read all of that. Congratulations or I'm sorry that happened.

>> No.11016862

>>11016730
ngl, as a pentomo i'm gonna be seething a bit if petra loses viewers from more waves debuting and she starts getting more bullied for numbers

>> No.11016919

>everyone builds a rapport over a year and incorporates themselves neatly into the hololive family
Aren't the EN members deathly afraid to collab with their JP senpais, except Ame who for some reason is deathly afraid of collabing with her EN genmates instead?

>> No.11016924

>>11016730
You are right, but there is something more
VTubers in the west are dying. NijiEN numbers were always a joke but this is too much. Even hololive buff isn't cutting anymore, girls struggling to get 300k subs.
We are declining, it's over, sell.

>> No.11016949

>>11016919
Who said that? They certainly never did. Hell, Ina and Gura had an episodic Japanese collab only two weeks ago.

>> No.11017099

The EN and JP hololive servers recently got a connection portal. Clearly the fear is more in your minds than theirs.

>> No.11017108

>>11016924
That was always the case as Vtubers in the west appear to be going for the lonely male crowd who are there because they want some semblance of female companionship. While a lot of Vtubers in JP appear to be more similar to just regular streamers and even their GFE shit like Rushia is also much more powerful.

It looks like the shininess of Vtubers in the west is wearing off and a lot of the simps aren't falling for it as much as they did at the start. Now they need to expand and have appeal besides having an anime girl avatar and a decent voice.

>> No.11017185

>>11016730
Here's your reply and internet points.

>> No.11017192

>>11016730
>>gen 1 had no time to establish themselves
BTW who the fuck determines when a group is 'established' and why does /vt/ acts likes it them?

>> No.11017225

>>11016862
As a Pentomo I'm happy she's getting a Nijisanji fan and Vocaloid sperg to talk to, I know she has Elira who is both plus a boy idol game enthusiast, but more friends for pengy is always good. My girl doesn't give a FUCK about numbers she streamed a debuff RPGmaker game

>> No.11017299

>>11016949
That was clearly arranged by management. How about naming another collab Gura did with JP.

>> No.11017322

>>11017299
The summer festival.

>> No.11017340

>>11016919
Ame is the mental midget member of the gen. She's still got ptsd over almost being stuck as 'Gura's sidekick' in the first 2 months of holo life that she barely collabs with her.

>> No.11017364

>>11017340
Shit, she should be happy for the exposure. Ame is only half as successful as she is because of the Gura buff.

>> No.11017416

>>11017322
>The annual event everyone goes to or needs an excuse for
Thank you for proving my point.

>> No.11017426

Imagine hiring takamori and not hiring Selen. What is going on in some people's heads?

>> No.11017451

>>11017416
About a month ago she played Among Us.

Do you feel stupid yet?

>> No.11017493

>>11017299
wait for saturday
she has a collab with shion

>> No.11017501

>>11017426
All Selen can do is laugh. Kiara can sing, speak three languages, collaborate and network, and serve as a bridge between two formerly separated vtuber branches. I'd say they made the right decision.

>> No.11017538

>>11017426
Mori and Kiara are pretty talented. Ame over Selen is actually baffling though.

>> No.11017602

>>11017538
>la creatividad vs laugh track
Easy choice

>> No.11017629

>>11017364
>Ame is only half as successful as she is because of the Gura buff.
That's for this sentence that she decided to not make more collabs with Gura, thanks for proving her point anon

>> No.11017658

>>11017629
And in doing so she's stalled her growth and lost a sizable chunk of her viewership. Doesn't seem like a smart business strategy to me.

>> No.11017668

>>11017602
Ame has had like 4 good ideas ever and she cans them all after 1-2 streams

>> No.11017691

>>11017538
Ame is there to push the others forward with their streaming. I doubt the VR Chat anniversary collab would've happened unless she took the initiative. I think she was the first to add in the legs art asset as well, which many copied.

Would've Selen have had those ideas? Who knows.

>> No.11017739

Ame's best idea was Smol Ame. and it wasn't even her idea. She just cribbed it from the actual creator and has been abusing it ever since.

>> No.11017810

>>11017691
>I think she was the first to add in the legs art asset as well, which many copied
No, that was an indie on twitch. She copies a lot of shit from twitch since she used to be a former twitch thot.

>> No.11017814

>>11017658
Her growth was stopped by another reasons such as her house moving, constant schedules with the same games over and over (Idk if management had something to do because she didn't have permissions for more games) and debuff streams like whatchalongs and SC readings, but the major factor was her moving who made her losing her momentum, and the constant Mario games and Oblivion ended killing it (She was like 20k at most behind Mori at this time in January)

>> No.11017902

>>11016730
Anycolor should have looked to Cover for ideas how to treat EN, the fact that Niji ENs can collab with other branches so easily completely waters down and strips away any unique identity that could have been created for the branch. thank you Enma for helping make Myth into the strongest vtuber group out there

>> No.11017979

>>11016730
Tribalism anon, please don't forget about IRySoCool…

>> No.11017993
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>>11016730
Imagine watching a vtuber just because numbers. You're not gonna make it.

>> No.11018027

>>11017979
IRyS is basically -Myth- and everyone treats her as such.

>> No.11021978

>>11017501
>Kiara can sing
kekd, thanks

>> No.11022011

>>11021978
She can sure as shit sing better than Selen.

>> No.11022140

>>11017340
Which is kind of a shame. Gura seems to really like Ame, but it is understandable.

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