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11006112 No.11006112 [Reply] [Original]

How do we stop the unicorn menace? Innocent chuubas don't deserve this.

>> No.11006186

>>11006112
Just type "lol faggot" and move on with your day

>> No.11006261

>Innocent chuubas don't deserve this.
They actually do
It's the price you pay for indirectly lying to people

>> No.11006296

Just collab with males to slay the unicorns

>> No.11006298

>>11006112
I've never read a post more fake than this. Putting that aside if you're mentally ill enough to become obsessed with a streamer, you deserve every single bit of "heartache" you get.

>> No.11006314

>>11006112
You deserve that the moment you put that avatar on.

>> No.11006369

>Putting that aside if you're mentally ill enough to become obsessed with a streamer, you deserve every single bit of "heartache" you get.
People say this for literally everything ever, though
It's never right. Nobody should be blamed for fucking feeling emotions.
>but I think it's cringe
And?
Since when did your opinion ever fucking matter?

>> No.11006378

>>11006112
>/wvt/
Stopped reading there. Don't care.

>> No.11006402

>>11006112
Why doesn't she just go Wolfychu route and be honest? Also at one point Wolfychu was more popular than Gura.

>> No.11006439

>>11006112
It's not hard to not be in a relationship, people do it all the time
If you think that being single is too high a price to pay, literally just don't become a vtuber. It's not hard, I don't get it?

>> No.11006462

>>11006112
lol their fault for giving a shit about unicorns.
just don't give a fuck like everyone else

>> No.11006502

>>11006112
Until literal GFE chuubas start coming out left and right this will keep happening, way too many lonely fucks in this hobby.

>> No.11006529

>>11006402
Money. It's always money

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11006577

>>11006112
we don't, get out whores

>> No.11006581

I don't understand the lonely guys that fall in love with vtubers.
I'm lonely myself but I get my share of human contact from occasionally going to the whorehouse.

>> No.11006662

>Wolfychu
>vtuber
ogey

>> No.11006664
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11006664

>>11006112
>HOW DO I BOTH MILK LONLEY MEN FOR MONEY SO I DON'T HAVE TO GET A REAL JOB AND GET TO FUCK MY BOYFRIEND ONSTREAM AT THE SAME TIME?!
We're supposed to feel sorry for her? She's more pathetic than her audience.

>> No.11006722

>>11006112
Your "job" is milking lonely men. You aren't a character, you aren't an entertainer, you just play with emotions. Be honest where your paycheck comes from slut and live with it

>> No.11006789

>>11006581
It's literally more pathetic to see a whore than be an incel. Seriously. At least an incel still acknowledges the existence of love and it drives them insane that they can't have it
All you've done is accept that you literally exist in a separate class of humanity, one that nobody wants, and have embraced that instead of denying it.

Imagine literally accepting "nobody will ever want to have sex with me willingly" as a statement. That's so fucked up, genuinely, it's like you're not even a human being anymore. Literally just underneath other people. Gross.

>> No.11006830

I'm sad and lonely, but no delusional to think i will have a requited love with a stranger who i never saw her face

>> No.11006834

>Using the term unicorn for a western vtuber
Kill yourself.

>> No.11006854

>>11006112
Fucking women holy shit.

>> No.11006926

>>11006789
Pathetic incel hands typed this.

>> No.11006935

>>11006112
>"Im scared what people my think if they hear a male voice"
Why are vtubers so uncreative.
Hey Bitch, rebrand yourself as a dominatrix and make your boyfriend your torture victim.
There, problem solved.

>> No.11006945

this is your oshi by the way

>b-but she's japanese
she learned english to make this post

>> No.11006949

>>11006789
Yeah that's sure gonna motivate that guy to do better. I'd rather take him, since he probably has a job, than you who shitposts for free yet pretends to have a moral high ground.

>> No.11007126

>>11006664
Well Amourath is the one of the most earning streamer on twitch and she fucks her boyfriend everyday
She lost some fans because of that, but she is doing fine anyways.

>> No.11007127

>>11006261
>indirectly lying to people
Holy mental gymnastics

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11007163

>falling in love with a western vtuber
big deal, that mountain is climbable.
I will never be Japanese

>> No.11007250

>>11007126
Vtubers are such a con. On the opposite side of the monitor is just another roastie getting rich off acting like is anything but. Ridiculous.

>> No.11007256

>>11006926
Not an incel and thank fuck for that, but at least while I have a dry spell now I can admit that it's fucking awful being alone and genuinely being an incel is a terrible state
>>11006949
>do better
Do better doing what, he's clearly already given up?
All he's gonna do is spend his life accepting his circumstances. I'd be happier for him is he was dead if I'm being honest, that's more dignified than how he lives now. The guy has unironically accepted being a non-human. I certainly don't think of him as a person. Most of society wouldn't. We all know how judgey people are when they hear about a dude who has been alone all his life. The secret is that they're right; that's one hell of a fucked up existence.

>> No.11007393

>>11006112
One solution is talk about boyfriend in the beginning, even if they don't have one.
She can filter unicorns and still have sweet cuck money. (Only works if you primary target is American, the country with most cucks per capita in the world)

>> No.11007401

>>11006112
This sounds like a post from Dumplingshiara kek

>> No.11007485

>>11006945
>Rushia learned English to make this post
she's literally retarded

>> No.11007531

>>11007126
Imagine aspiring to be like amouranth. The fact this is now a thing some women want means that a beta uprising would be justified.

>> No.11007588

>>11007401
But she already dropped the bomb. Do you think she's going to tell you about her second boyfriend or something?

>> No.11007610

>>11006369
name the vtubbo that you are emotionally attached to

>> No.11007618

How do we stop the people who will believe any larp menace?

>> No.11007625

>>11006949
How do you do better if you're an incel in your late 30s?
It's fucking over, nobody will ever have sex with you at that point. You'll never have a job that pays well, etc.
You have no idea what it's like to be an ACTUAL incel.

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11007628

>>11006369
You can feel them, but unless you're a faggot you're supposed to at least control them.

>> No.11007701

When you make your money off pandering to lonely incels, this is what you sign up for.

Deal with it.

>> No.11007721

>>11007628
>stoicism meme
We get it, you're retarded enough to look to ancient civilizations for moral guidance

>> No.11007751

>>11006789
by being an incel you are allowing women to weaponize sex. you are giving them a disproportionate amount of power where they dictate your behavior and self image by rewarding you with sex or denying you if you arent up to par. to have the lack of approval by women torture you and drive you insane makes you not even a man at that point. to make sex a business transaction turns a woman's strongest weapon into an easily accesible commodity, it lets you satisfy your carnal desires without forcing you to fundamentally change yourself to fit the mold designed by women

>> No.11007752

>>11007256
>Do better doing what, he's clearly already given up?
>All he's gonna do is spend his life accepting his circumstances. I'd be happier for him is he was dead if I'm being honest, that's more dignified than how he lives now. The guy has unironically accepted being a non-human. I certainly don't think of him as a person. Most of society wouldn't. We all know how judgey people are when they hear about a dude who has been alone all his life. The secret is that they're right; that's one hell of a fucked up existence.

i literally had this thought when i read your posts

>incel in denial

>> No.11007778

>>11007625
>You'll never have a job that pays well, etc
...incel doesn't mean Hikkineet/freeter.
>>11006296
>Just collab with males to slay the unicorns
TPBP

>> No.11007787

Lumi really let the antis get in her head huh...

>> No.11007915

>>11007778
>..incel doesn't mean Hikkineet/freeter.
What do you suggest an incel in their late 30s who is a handholdless virgin who only worked dead end jobs and now gets neetbuxs should do?

>> No.11007947

>>11006112
Did Beatani's English get that much better?

>> No.11007970

>>11006789
The purpose of love is to have children and a family, if you're not doing that there is no difference between paying a woman with money or dopamine.

>> No.11008010

>>11006261
No one deserves a schizo obsessive fan. If you think they do you are suggesting people are helpless lambs to the schizoification for whatever charlatan comes along promising virtual friendship. If you're doing that then you might as well declare that a nanny state is necessary and everyone needs to have their entertainment monitored and restricted like the CCP is doing.

>> No.11008011

>>11007751
>this much cope
You've turned human existence into a fucking thought experiment, you freak
People are not supposed to analyze human interactions like this you schizophrenic abomination, you unironically sound like a machine, this is exactly what I mean when you no longer sound human.
You're no longer capable of the emotions a normal human being who has lived a normal life is capable of, go be a robot somewhere else, the sad state you've reduced yourself to is actually disgusting and makes me physically ill that a living, breathing human being could become what you are. Your soul is dead.

>> No.11008034

>>11006112
Tamaki solved this a long time ago. Just say you don't accept gachikoi. That you know how it feels to be one because some of your idols got married and shit.
When Norio announced her marriage, she lost no subs. Her video doesn't have more dislike than others and the amount of viewers she has is the same.

Fubuki is kind of trying to do the same. At the end of the 1st gen live, she said something like "I don't want you to be gachikoi, but I still want to be your first. It's complicated"

Anyway, if you can't explicitly say you are in a relationship. Try to hint it hard enough. Most of the time it works, sometime it doesn't. I unironically still can't understand why matsurisu think their oshi is single.

If you go the gachikoi route like Kanata. You have to assume it and keep lying until you graduate.

>> No.11008064 [DELETED] 

>>11008010
The CCP is infinitely better than our jewish government, which is literally genociding you.

>> No.11008095

>>11007970
Fucking pathetic lol, this is what I mean when I say that the people who have accepted being incels are fucking terrifying
Thank fuck my high school gf saved me from this hellish state you're in, the idea that I could've become like this terrifies me. You're just a fucking...tool, it's awful. There isn't a shred of magic left in your soul.

>> No.11008120

>>11008011
Fuck you, femoid enabler.

>> No.11008159

>>11008010
>you are suggesting people are helpless lambs to the schizoification for whatever charlatan comes along promising virtual friendship
yes
>you're doing that then you might as well declare that a nanny state is necessary and everyone needs to have their entertainment monitored and restricted like the CCP is doing.
??????
Explain how one leads to the other

>> No.11008161

>>11008095
Ok schizo, you have no grasp on reality.

>> No.11008235

>>11007915
>What do you suggest an incel in their late 30s who is a handholdless virgin who only worked dead end jobs and now gets neetbuxs should do?
I don't know but that's not what my post was about.
That being said.
>>11007970
>The purpose of love is to have children and a family, if you're not doing that there is no difference between paying a woman with money or dopamine.
This. If you're not making kids there is literally no difference.

What you people want a woman doesn't have the capability nor desire of providing.
You need friends, not girlfriends.
Join a card game club or something.
>>11007787
>Lumi really let the antis get in her head huh...
I really fucking hope that wasn't Lumi. I really, really hope.
It's probably a vain hope, though.
>>11007256
>Most of society wouldn't. We all know how judgey people are when they hear about a dude who has been alone all his life.
American hands typed this post.

>> No.11008237

>>11008120
I fucking pray you find your humanity again, or at least meet a swift merciful end to save your dead soul from its continued self-perpetuated miserable existence

>> No.11008277

>>11008161
>schizo
says the dude preaching fucking STOICISM

>> No.11008294

>>11008237
I dedicated my life to making the people I hate as miserable as possible. I'm amassing a shitcoin fortune and donating my profits to far right groups in the west.

>> No.11008344

>>11007127
vtubers pretend to be single so lonely men will watch them

>> No.11008391

>>11008294
Incredibly based

>> No.11008427

>>11006789
>the existence of love
Oh, what a retard you are

>> No.11008442

>>11006112
>vtuber is being retarded again
>western indie ENvtuber
every time
This is why corpos win

>> No.11008452

>>11007751
based
incels are faggots

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>>11008277
Actually, that was me, not the other anon(s).

This is you.

>> No.11008495

>>11007970
Seeing relationships as zero-sum transactions is a sad existence.

>> No.11008518

>>11006112
whats "unicorn menace"?

if you have dedicated fans you can get away with a male voice in the background. every jp vtuber was like that. most hardcore fans dont give a shit about it.

if you are fucked by that. you just dont have dedicated fans.

>> No.11008521

>>11008294
God bless with your work

>> No.11008544

>>11007126
She's actually married.

>> No.11008547
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11008547

there is nothing wrong with unicorns or vtubers pandering to them
the problem is when people expect a vtuber to pander to unicorns when she doesn't want to do so
the other problem is when vtuber wants to pander to unicorns without strictly following the obligations that unicorns expect to be followed

basically every vtuber should decide her relationship with their audience herself

>> No.11008563

>>11008294
This is the famed mental stability of the stoic lmao
Just know that this is the alternative to the incel unicorns you hate, everybody. If they aren't schizos about love, they'll be schizo about everything else.

Unicorns and pandering to them is a necessary evil, plain and simple. Broken men are better than the evil things they become if they go even further like this cretin

>> No.11008674

>>11008459
Not vomiting enough to be me
Imagine giving up on romantic heterosexual love as literal concept and then being proud of killing your own soul
Fucking actual inhuman demons jfc

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threadly reminder
https://files.catbox.moe/n9u2g5.webm

>> No.11008725

>>11008563
he's not describing a stoic philosophy

>> No.11008734

>>11008563
Our numbers are growing because of the state of modern women. I'm biding my time. In a generation or two we will see the end result of what happens when you have too many angry virgins.

>> No.11008785

>>11006112
>an indie with no restrictions realizing the faustian bargain she took
Deserves to get stabbed by an incel for intentionally making money off of idolatry. No, regaining your conscience briefly doesn't excuse it. No, you did not actually shy away from GFE, you just took the sideways glance route. Cowards, all of them. You either do like Fubuki and shoot it down immediately, or you straight up make your boyfriend a part of the experience. They won't do B, because they know why they're a vtuber. The rare few who actually pull off B know exactly what they're doing, and who the kind of people they're attracting are.

>> No.11008796

>>11008011
its honestly crazy that you think having sex a few times makes you that much more of a person and that it equates to being loved. its like all other forms of aspirations in life is worthless, and that all there is in this world is to seek physical intimacy. from the sound of it none of your relationships lasted, is that love? or was it two superficial beings lying to themselves and indulging in physical pleasures even tho they had zero emotional attachment to each other? all these women youve slept with and none of them wanted to stay with you, is the simple act of being with them temporarily really that fulfilling to you?

>> No.11008878

>>11008785
it might not even be an indie. It might be someone corporate and it's definitely not Lumi though

>> No.11008897

>>11008495
What does acknowledging the feeling of love as being something created in humans in order to further procreation have to do with "Seeing relationships as zero-sum transactions"?
When Chad sleeps with women he pays them in dopamine, since they on some level feel good about securing a high-tier mate (even if that's not actually what's happening, hence why women cry so much about Chads cheating/pump and dumping them). If a non-Chad pays women to sleep with him he's doing the same thing.
Women valuing a man being 6'2 more so than him making six figures is purely a vestigial evolutionary holdover, one that is enabled by the state subsidizing the bad decisions of women, e.g. by not letting the children of single mothers simply starve, and until we have a sensible state there is no point in romanticizing women who you're not in the process of forming a family with.

>> No.11008917

>>11008563
NTA but you're acting like a fag. You're talking about humanity and at the beginning you were talking about holding on to this idea about love existing but you just want sex from model type women.

>> No.11008959

someone post that indie yab where she mentions her boyfriend on stream and has breakdown after realising she built her entire living on a lie

>> No.11008966

>>11008011
>stop thinking, just do what I say!

>> No.11008992

>>11008878
Yeah well Pomu could solve this little problem of hers easily by mass producing the Pomus that suck dick

shame that she lost the blueprints at her BFs place

>> No.11009010

>>11008734
the angry virgins kill each other and life returns to normal
natural selection

>> No.11009041

>>11008294
>Amassing a shit coin fortune
How?

>> No.11009096

>>11008878
Surely any real corpos have a "never bring up your boyfriend you retard" clause in their contracts so they wouldn't be losing sleep over it since it's out of their hands

>> No.11009113

>>11006789
It was merely a suggestion. Have sex and maybe you'll stop putting pussy on a pedestal.
Doesn't always work though, I know some folks who got invested and married the whore they're a regular with. Not too different from the poor fucks that fall in love with vtubers.

>> No.11009118

>>11008563
how the fuck is "donating to far right organizations" evil? Is this something to do with muh 6 gorrilion again?

>> No.11009124

>>11009010
No, you have things like the Taliban rise up and take back control of their society and ending "romantic love" aka Chads pump and dumping all the women.

>> No.11009126

>>11008785
>You either do like Fubuki and shoot it down immediately, or you straight up make your boyfriend a part of the experience. They won't do B, because they know why they're a vtuber. The rare few who actually pull off B know exactly what they're doing
FUCKING ANON GETS IT

>> No.11009166

>>11009096
she did say that she only wanted to vent so

>> No.11009259

>>11009124
dont pretend. The Chads you have a crush on are respectable men with a moderate lifestyle you are envious of.

>> No.11009277

If the vtuber just mention having a boyfriend the unicorns move on, is it that hard? Even if you don't have one, you can say you do and keep (us) at bay.

>> No.11009419

>>11009277
>If a vtuber mentions having a boyfriend then the emotionally starved crazy guy will move on like any self-respecting member of society, simple as
This is what you said just now. Can I join your timeline? I like that one.

>> No.11009431

>>11009277
Exactly, any vtuber can easily get rid of the unicorn fanbase. If they do not then they are implicitly acknowledging that they are courting them and so why do they get mad if they react negatively?

>> No.11009438

>>11009096
No one forces them to sign the contracts. Why do they think such a rule exist?
If you're so stupid to not even wonder why only the existence of a boyfriend (while talking about family and friends is ok) is forbidden you can't complain if you get stabbed.

>> No.11009445

>>11008698
>https://files.catbox.moe/n9u2g5.webm
based

>> No.11009463

>>11008159
>Vtuber does intentional or unintentional GFE
>Random viewer gets hit in the kokoro and becomes gachikoi
>Over long hours of streams he goes schizo and believes he has a special connection with the chuuba and starts doing creepy stuff, or stalking, or chimps out and kills someone when the chuuba reveals bf
You saying the vtuber deserves it means you blame her for bringing it on herself. This means you're treating the viewer as an automaton NPC that will go schizo if exposed to GFE streams, and the streamers are to blame for creating the schizo. You rob the viewer of any and all responsibility and autonomy.
Therefore if viewers are so easily turned into sources of threats to people's lives, it demands action to protect the public safety. Same as requiring carmakers to add more safety features or making laws against CP. To prevent these schizos from being created in the first place, you would have to take action at the source, by banning GFE and other kinds of potential interactions that might have similar effects. Therefore you have to police the content that streamers create. Which is exactly what is happening in China today.

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>>11009010
>he doesn't know
there's a societal collapse currently ongoing in China because there's more men than women. You don't want a generation of angry men at all.

>> No.11009514

>>11009124
the civil war in afghanistan will continue like it has for the last however many hundred years, the taliban is just the winning side now

>> No.11009526

>>11009419
I'm assuming most of the unicorns aren't completely mentally ill. If they are there's literally nothing that can be done.

>> No.11009565

>>11009468
>You don't want a generation of angry men at all.
you do if you're a warmonger because they make the best soldiers
why do you think xi is banning video games

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>>11006112
She should've made it clear that she's interested in other males and that she sees her audience as merely viewers. Just like >>11008785 says

That said, I'll give my opinion and say that being an unicorn isn't necessarily wrong. Sure, you deluded yourself into a parasocial relationship and she's not going to date you but I believe that you're harmless and should be left to do your own thing as long as you know your limits and don't try demand anything from the streamer or sperg out if it's revealed she's in a relationship

I don't understand the unicorn mentality, but I don't mind them and I don't think there's anything to gain from trying to change them; although they can be some of the most annoying individuals when they don't get their way and then feel the need to be loud or even mad about it

This anon quite gets it >>11008547

>> No.11009742

>>11009463
If the schizos are *so* dangerous they could stop being a streamer. They could just ban whoever becomes schizo (I've actually seen some doing this on Twitch). They could do thousand of things to reduce the numbers of gachikoi in their chat.

>> No.11009848

>>11006112
Being nice is GFE vibes. Being playfully mean is GFE vibes. Sorry but I don't make the rules.

>> No.11009870

>>11009742
BUUHHH TBHUUUTTT THE MONEY ANON

>> No.11009900

why do women think vtubing should be easy for them? you want to just sit on your ass and play video games all day while men feed you attention and throw money your way?

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>>11009565
China is not a singular monolith that people from the outside are thinking of. You think that's not going to backfire to Winnie the Pooh's face? There's a reason why chinks thrown all Uyghur turks in concentration camps; their birthrate and male/female ratios are the most healthy of all China thanks to the government exempting them to the one child policy. Hell, in all of china, only the Uyghur people have positive birthrates. There will be a reckoning to whatever Xi's government is doing. The only question is when will this collapse would actually occur.

>> No.11009975

>>11008698
wait, that's... that immense faggot. I can't tell if he's doing better or worse than when I knew him all those years ago.

>> No.11010018

>>11009463
the fuck
everything after "Therefore" doesn't logically follow and presumes your own political philosophy of how the state should operate.

>> No.11010122

>>11006112
Why can't women and faggots understand that men simply doesn't want to spend their free time being the third wheel of another couple? Why can't they understand that men doesn't like giving support to woman that already has a partner? This is not even about being an unicorn, is just how men are, if the bitch still wants to be supported, she can go ahead and ask her boyfriend for it since its his job, but don't expect me to waste my time on you and in exchange getting the friendzone experience.

>> No.11010222

>>11010122
women want everything to be on easy mode. once they get a taste of easy mode they immediately think that's the norm. then they grow evermore lazy and entitled.

>> No.11010324

>>11006439
Holy bait

>> No.11010397

>>11010324
It's not really bait. Normies more or less all have this weird delusion that they "have" to do something when it's proven to be an objective detriment to their situation.

>> No.11010427

I don't think people deserve certain types of schizos. Signing up for the GFE experience for example isn't the same as signing up to be stabbed and continually harassed.
However, if your fanbase gets extremely upset, leaves, and hates you after you had a boyfriend when you purposefully lied to your audience & did GFE, that's your fault and you don't get to complain. If you want to do GFE and have a boyfriend, say flat out that only the character you're playing is doing GFE and the person inside isn't relevant and has a boyfriend. Be straight up and honest.
Also, people who are just Vtubers and not GFE and don't lead people on don't deserve these schizos at all, but if you have a problem with schizos popping up anyway tell them directly instead of being a coward and letting them fester. If you let them fester, that's really your fault.

>> No.11010443

Fuck those whores. Imagine making millions with zero effort just riding of a fad and not even being able to close your fucking legs. It's literally that simple.

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>>11008064
Quiet, Artia. Or are you a right-winger who forgot that communism=jewish?

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>>11008674

>> No.11010788

>>11006112
Vtubers that actually care about this shit are always true about it or make a post like ''I'm not your parasocial relationship'' before it goes to the wrong side, because who the fuck cares if some unicorns drop your stream you don't want them anyway right? this whole thing sounds like someone wanting to live the best of both worlds

>> No.11010816

>>11010018
If the viewer is helpless against the seduction of the GFE, do they not deserve protection? States have laws against frauds, against cults, against false advertising, against manipulating children through entertainment dressed up as toy commercials.
All in the name of preserving the safety of people. When you rob the viewer of agency it means you are treating them on the level of a child who will be easily manipulated by toy commercials and cartoons with poor moral messages. This is why restrictions exist on what can or can't be shown in children's entertainment, commercials for snack foods, before the "watershed hour".
If the adult vtuber viewer is to be treated on the level of a child, then yes, there are restrictions necessary on the entertainment they consume.

Or, you could treat them as adults and hold them responsible for their actions and erroneously placed gachikoi feelings instead of blaming a PNG with a nice soothing voice.

>> No.11010823

>>11008011
Man, this is a place where most people are hikkis who kill themselves when their favorite chuuba says the word boyfriend, what did you expect?

And all this talk about soul.... everyone who is not dedicated to god and follows his rules is going to the same place, regardless of how much of a good person you are.

So I'm hoping you're really devoted in your religion, or else why would anyone listen.

CAPTCHA: DAD PP

>> No.11010858

I don't understand the issue. If you're playing a character, why is it even relevant if your roommate is seeing someone? Do you also get mad when your waifu in an anime is single but her voice actress is taken?

>> No.11010873

>>11006112
Revealing you have a boyfriend to motivate your chat to better themselves thinking they can one day topple him.

>> No.11010876

>>11009975
He streams to about a hundred people at night, he's doing okay.

>> No.11010883

>>11006112
If a tuber is open about being in a relationship then the unicorns will never come in the first place. Neither will their money, of course, but you can't have your cake and eat it too.

>> No.11011045

>>11010858
Yes, please look up Aya Hirano. Seiyuu do hide their relationship status.

>> No.11011071

>>11006926
where do you think we are exactly

>> No.11011132

>western vtubers
>>>/trash/42197662

>> No.11011273

>>11011045
And I'm sure she keeps it private to protect him from schizos moreso than herself. Also I maintain that it's not relevant at all to her career.

>> No.11011287

>>11010858
majority of vtubers stop being a character pretty soon after debuting and just are themselves with anime avatar, membership streams during which they talk about their personal life blurs the distinction even further

>> No.11011384

>>11006112
Fake bait

>> No.11011412

>>11009463
>Therefore if viewers are so easily turned into sources of threats to people's lives, it demands action to protect the public safety.


I also find it funny that nowhere in your diatribe does GFE streamers being single come into play. Either they must have bfs, or they must not exist because they have bfs
Maybe they could just do what they do now, and not have bfs?

>> No.11011463

>>11010858
>"playing a character"
>trendhoppers and ironicfags
>putting in effort
>being sincere

Are you serious?

>> No.11011517

>>11011463
I don't think this guy knows anything about otaku culture.

>> No.11011540

>>11010816
imagine banning drugs and not just making drugs safer and less damaging to help addicts, and I say this unironically

>> No.11011591

>>11006789
Nigga, rich married men fuck prostitutes all of the time. You're coping hard if you think that you're reducing yourself to a lower class of humanity by hiring a hooker.

>> No.11011738

People are just salty about unicorns being the biggest game in town.
Yeah, Hololive post-sankisei, with all of its virtual cabaret unicorn pandering idolfag bullshit is the meta of vtubing. Yeah, that means you have to deal with the crowd that foments as the default, and have to explicitly deviate or otherwise accept their presence and expectations otherwise.

Don't like it? Fucking TOUGH

>> No.11011896

>>11011287
Even if they draw from their own personality and experiences, they're still playing a character. Otherwise they would just use their real name and an avatar that looks like them. But when you stream a lot, it's just easier to be more of yourself. And I'm sure the personal information they chose to divulge was relevant at the time.

>> No.11011917

>>11011540
You know what I agree with you on that. Making them safer and less damaging would be better than banning outright. However, adding even this much regulation is effectively putting restrictions on the trade of something. No more sell whatever you make in the basement and saying fuck the addict if the batch was contaminated, now you have to meet safety standards or get sued.

>> No.11011940
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>this whole thread
>"she's a whore!" "she milks lonely men like me, even if she doesn't treat me like such!"
Holy shit fellas you really need to get a life and stop seething about everything. At this rate plenty of you will kill themselves anytime soon for literally any reason.
>also
You get rid of unicorns by ignoring them or by absolutely not pandering to the likes of fucking them, they are to be avoided like plage. You either do it like Fubuki or like Norio (>>11008034) or end up like Matsuri. Even with all that, unironical schizos are mostly relentless.

>> No.11012012

>>11011273
>it's not relevant at all to her career
It pretty much killed her career.

>> No.11012014

>>11010858
>he doesn't know about the Yui stalker

>> No.11012023

>>11011940
I won't kill myself because I want to see everyone else suffer.

>> No.11012095

>>11006112
t. Kiki

>> No.11012123

>>11011412
What does this have to do with bfs? This started from someone saying it's a vtuber's fault if they get schizos. Moving goalposts.

>> No.11012202

>>11011940
>Holy shit fellas you really need to get a life
We wouldn't be here watching anime girls if it was that easy anon-chama.

>> No.11012260

>>11012123
There is no other significant source of schizos in vtubing.

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>>11012012
>killed her career
Uhhh she looks like she's doing just fine my dude.

>> No.11012326

>>11011591
incels are so deep in their despair they don't think logically

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>>11010816
>If the viewer is helpless against the seduction of the GFE, do they not deserve protection?
No. This retarded argument is the same as niggers who keep thinking video games causes school shootings. Although considering how the current generation grew up, it's not surprising that kids unironically believe this. I've honestly tried to give unicorns some form of sympathy but literally every argument I've seen comes down to some schizo not taking their meds. You want to talk about exploitation? Talk about the gossip girls that spread doxx about relationships in this godforsaken mental den hoping that the girls they're jealous of get hurt by some schizo here. But that doesn't fit neatly into your rrat, does it?

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>>11008294

>> No.11012416

>>11012202
This. Anyone that says GFE doesn't play some part in why they watch vTubers, even subconsciously, isnt being honest with themselves. Otherwise they'd be watching men who are generally funnier and more skilled at games.

>> No.11012510

>>11012316
I don't think you're old enough to know how massive she was and she got relegated to support rules and characters she previously voiced.

>> No.11012585

>>11007751
Most based post in this thread
>>11008011
Roastie hands typed this post

>> No.11012783

>>11012510
Not old enough for Haruhi Suzumiya or death note? How young are people here?
Regardless I'm sure she still has more money than you and I ever will.

>> No.11012823

>>11012332
I think I've lost track of what you're arguing for or against.

The part you quoted is coming from the position that If the vtuber "deserves to get schizos" it means the vtuber is to blame and the schizos are NPC mobs that appear if you go to the wrong place in an RPG. That if the vtuber is the cause of the schizos then the schizos can't help what they do when exposed to GFE and therefore need protections from society to prevent the creation of more schizos who will harm people.

My view is that this is wrong, that the schizos should be held responsible for doing schizo shit, and that the vtuber doesn't "deserve" any schizo followers because the schizos should control themselves like normal people.

>> No.11012876

>>11006112
Just announce you have a boyfriend and be done with it

>> No.11012909

>>11012332
>>11010816
It's funny how you two are literally fighting to see who virtue signals hardest against unicorns lmao
"No, I hate unicorns the most!"
"No, I do! Women are queens! Incels are cringe!"
"No, women are queens even more, and incels are even CRINGIER! Ha!"
Gotta love it

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why is there so much fucking virginity in this thread

>> No.11012961

>>11011591
No dude would blow cash on a filthy disgusting whore if he was getting it at home lmao

>> No.11012981

>>11012909
/vt/ is for worshipping women after all, not only spiritually but also monetarily

>> No.11013008

>>11012961
Do you really think that?
https://www.therichest.com/entertainment/10-celebrities-that-were-caught-with-prostitutes/

>> No.11013065

Americans were a mistake.

>> No.11013092

>>11012909
They are virtue signaling, but you can't say they're wrong or incorrect.
Unicorns should keep their parasocial fantasies to themselves instead of sperging out like schizophrenic manchildren when anything interferes with their "immersion"

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>>11006112
yes I'm an unicorn
yes I know it's unhealthy
no I will do nothing about it
no I will not watch whores
simple as

>> No.11013239

Imagine being uncomfortable with lonely male desperation while making money off of it hand over fist.

>> No.11013246

>>11012916
ask yourself

>> No.11013276

>>11013142
You're fine as long as you don't have a public meltdown when your oshi acknowledges the existence of a male gender

>> No.11013309

>>11008294
Based, keep up the good work.
>>11013142
Same, king.
And let me add something else to that:
Yes, I will celebrate when the whores get what's coming to them. (White Christmas Oni and company).
It's only a matter of when, all you need is one Jap schizo and a whole company is literally burned to the ground.

>> No.11013320

>>11013092
Unicorns are good for vtubers, why do you think Hololive is the top company?

>> No.11013365

>>11013320
because a fox did the scatman and a dog had a name that was very similar to a worldwide pandemic?

>> No.11013402

I'm not a unicorn, I watch a few vtubers that I know either are in a relationship or were in one recently. That being said the one I watch the most is basically a confirmed femcel and I have almost daily stream off conversions with her as one of her most loyal viewers. I've basically become attached enough that I would be pretty heartbroken if she got a bf.

>> No.11013460

>>11013092
>They are virtue signaling, but you can't say they're wrong or incorrect.
Virtue signaling as a general rule of thumb is incorrect, and often even if what they're signaling for is fine, their reasons for believing it to be fine are wrong
>Unicorns should keep their parasocial fantasies to themselves instead of sperging out like schizophrenic manchildren when anything interferes with their "immersion"
Until vtubers stop trying to profit off of unicorns, this is a retarded demand

>> No.11013491

>>11013239
>Imagine being uncomfortable with lonely male desperation while making money off of it hand over fist.
I make 8k a month literally shoveling shit. Doesn't mean I enjoy shit. Stop being a retard.

>> No.11013500

>>11007531
Wasn't there an anon a couple years back who said his mother was a high school guidance counselor, and 70% of the girls she talked to said they wanted to be "streamers" after high school?
I'm pretty sure OnlyFans is now the default career track for many young women, like "learning to code" is for men. The future is a bunch of virgin code monkeys throwing their wages at their bosses' girlfriends.

>> No.11013524

>>11013365
Nijisanji had plenty of memeable content early on into 2020 and even early 2019, there was a point where Lulu and Kagura Mea clips were just as viral as most Hololive clips
Hololive won that war for a reason, though

>> No.11013531

>>11013491
You understood what I said here. Stop whiteknighting, shit shoveler.

>> No.11013559

>>11007126
She's married and there's nothing wrong with that you retard. Nobody on EARTH is mad that Norio married someone. NOBODY on EARTH is mad when some Niji girl collabs with male coworkers or even dates someone in a way that's open and respectful to their audience.
But any and every member SHOULD be mad if a streamer selling themselves as IDOL ends up getting their relationship leaked, even if they are NOT invested in them "that way". How is this hard to understand.

Nobody leaves their home and gets mad at couples in traffic on their way to fucking work. Nobody gets mad at eight billion people on Earth, most on relationships. 385 THOUSAND babies are born worldwide, each DAY. Nobody is mad at that. Nobody is mad that 385000 are bred daily. But once you hold yourself to a standard, it's a breach of truth to your audience to break it.

What's the simplest solution? To either abide to it, or to never make it to begin with if you know that you won't/can't keep it at least until you graduate. It's literally that simple. Go indie. Go to another company.

>> No.11013577

>>11013491
You could stop shoveling shit
Furthermore, these women could literally snap their fingers and make all of those men less lonely if they wanted to. You can't snap your fingers and make all shit in the world disappear. It's not really a good comparison.

>> No.11013585

>>11013491
that seems like a lot

>> No.11013601

>>11013491
Do you insult your boss? If you do then he should fire you.
There are plenty of people that would love to be making big vtuber bucks for doing basically no work, the girls that make it should be damn grateful for being so lucky.

>> No.11013621

>>11013585
That's the Power of the Union
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4RnjYwbtp4

>> No.11013622

>>11013524
But was any of that memeable content in English?

>> No.11013643

>>11013092
>but you can't say they're wrong or incorrect.
the posters complain that you shouldnt blame the chuubas for the unicorn schizos while ignoring that many are explictly pandering to that audience
this of course does not mean the schizos dont have agency for their own actions but as other anons itt have said you can not have your cake and eat it too

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>watch vtuber who seems to be a well adjusted person like me
>she reveals she is a virgin and has never had a boyfriend
>projectile vomit all across my screen
>unsub, chargeback, tell her to touch grass
>tell my girlfriend we won't watch her anymore
unironically don't understand why you would want to follow a pathetic incel.

>> No.11013670

>>11013601
Honestly this, imagine making money hand over foot and bitching about it because you can't have a boyfriend too
Genuinely should lose their spot to the girls more than happy to perform the GFE role, but often those girls are themselves shy about putting themselves forward for that role, so we get girls like OP instead who can't conceive of sacrificing something for their audience

>> No.11013673

>>11013559
I'm raising an objection to the couples in traffic part. I fucking hate them for being uncooperative self-centered pieces of shit.
Otherwise agreed.

>> No.11013676

>>11012202
>>11012416
You have a point bros, but to be fair, getting a life is not just about getting a GFE. Daily schizoing doesn't do good in a personal level.

>> No.11013745

There's nothing wrong with being a virgin loser on the internet watching anime girls all day. The issue is when you make your being a virgin loser someone else's problem, like in OP's pic.

>> No.11013746

>>11013622
Kagura Mea literally bitched about too much English in her chat as one of those popular clips, lmao
It was the exact same shit back then in recommended and people pretending it wasn't are being disingenuous, when the late 2019/early 2020 wave happened it happened to a LOT of non-Holo content
People out here really pretending that "le eldritch being" Lulu meme clips and other shit weren't getting the kind of traffic Holos were getting are some of the biggest lying faggots on this board, you fucking had your chance, people picked Hololive for a reason, and it's a reason you hate because it reminds you that unicorns and idolfags are a massive part of the audience

>> No.11013798

Holy shit just be honest with your fucking viewers

>> No.11013804

>>11013746
That sounds more like niji rejected the EN audience while holo embraced it.

>> No.11013809

>>11013676
Most other things in my life are fine. I have friends, I'm in grad school studying what I love, but I'm probably just too autistic for romance.
t. 28 year old virgin

>> No.11013824

>>11013676
I'm literally going to be dead in at most 50 years time, with any luck I'll only last another 20 before I kill myself
Why would I care about anything besides finding love? It's the only thing of any real importance

>> No.11013825

>>11013276
as long as she isn't lying or hiding it from fans (looking at you Matuli) I will just understand and move on

>> No.11013841

>>11013798
Which is the quickest way to lose them, kek.

>> No.11013864

>>11013841
If you lose them by being honest you probably shouldnt have them desu

>> No.11013867

>>11013809
In 2021, you're not even losing much. If you don't want to start a family with kids, that is.

>> No.11013880

>>11013804
I'm sure they actively chose to leave money on the table

>> No.11013885

Oh no no no
The few months I worked on retail interacting with other people dealing with schizos was at least a weekly occurrence, and that was like meeting less than 100 people every day. If these bitches think they can do this job without schizos interacting with them they're insane.

>> No.11013901

>>11013864
Bingo! This kills the vtuber.

>> No.11013915

Did anyone say boyfriend?
https://streamable.com/82tfiw

>> No.11013932

>>11013867
>If you don't want to start a family with kids, that is.
I do want those things, however I think most people would disagree with the prior statement.
Unless you just mean the way the modern world doesn't allow for those things to be as fulfilling as they once were due to societal changes?

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>>11013365
if you unironically think that is why Hololive is successful to the point of having official Lawson and baseball championship collabs you are absolutely delusional EOP

>> No.11013951

>>11013867
>not even losing that much
Man I don't know a single person IRL that I can realistically consider a whole, well-developed, well-adjusted person that's a virgin
They almost always have some weird ass world view, either super hateful or super submissive. They never end up being the kind of person who you can have a beer while watching a baseball game with. It's fucking awful how socially unhinged they become.

>> No.11013952

>>11013746
none of this is true

>> No.11013959

This shit is no different than Anno complaining that anime fans are a bunch of manchilds.

>> No.11013980

>>11013531
No I genuinely don't.
>>11013577
>make all of those men less lonely if they wanted to.
How?
>>11013585
>that seems like a lot
I'm technically skilled labour but what really stacks are all those bonuses.
I don't spend a lot and educate myself so I should be able to retire by 32 (I'm 24 right now).
>>11013601
I was talking in general not about whatever the drama of the week is. I generally believe that you should respect your fans.

>> No.11013993

>>11013864
But, the money? Bro?

>> No.11014000

>>11013142
based sincere anon

>> No.11014010

>>11013951
>people outside of the norm are not the norm
Well, no shit they are not!

>> No.11014041

>>11013959
>This shit is no different than Anno complaining that anime fans are a bunch of manchilds.
See
>>11000791
It's a self-selection thing.
There's plenty anime fans who are fairly well-adjusted people, but if you're the guy making EVA everyone who watches you in the 21st century is gonna be a manchild or a troon.

>> No.11014044

>>11013951
this posts is severely lacking in self awareness

>> No.11014053

>>11013915
>when you end your career in one sentence
I feel bad for her, but she shouldn't be lying about it after the fact.

>> No.11014070

>>11013745
>literally everybody is aware of the deal involved with being a vtuber
>everybody knows that to engage with this hobby without killing unicorns early on is to implicitly welcome them
>everybody knows the benefits therein
>everybody knows the expectations thereof
>this implicit contract is incredibly well-defined for anybody who does even a little bit of research into it
If you walk into the den of a hungry lion and you don't blame it for being hungry but it then eats you, you don't also then blame it for eating you, you're retarded for entering the den of a hungry lion when you knew it was hungry.

>> No.11014108

>>11006112
She's puppetting an anime girl to entertain people on the internet, what dignity does she think she has, Jesus Christ

>> No.11014132

>>11014010
The goal is to be normal you dip
>>11014044
Unironically how so

>> No.11014133

>>11014044
4chins has long been lost to the normie menace.

>> No.11014138

>>11013959
Even more ironic that Anno is just a manchild that became rich and famous and in doing so found a wife that puts up with him. I'm jealous desu

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>>11013142
holy based

>> No.11014177

>>11014132
Lol ultranormie confirmed. Oh how low have we fallen.

>> No.11014189

>>11013915
"Not my boyfriend. My brother!"
>flashbacks to Amelia telling teamates her "brother" was watching football in the living room
hahahahahahahahahahaHAHA

>> No.11014195

>>11013952
????????
I was literally there you fucking faggot, I WAS the late 2019 early 2020 clipwatcher who then became a Holo viewer. I remember my recommended sidebar.

>> No.11014208

>>11006112
She literally says she's leading them on and feels bad about it? The solution is therefore very simple, don't lead people on.

>> No.11014216

>>11014138
More like wife that fucks a bunch of chads on side. Anno is a living breathing AF/BB specimen.

>> No.11014241

>>11014177
>normie
First off it's normalfag here newfag, go back
Secondly, even an autist knows that a loving relationship is a key part of a happy meaningful life, they just don't have one

>> No.11014254

/qa/ is out in full force today

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>>11014070
>everybody knows

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>>11013915
KEK

you can see how she destroyed her entire gig in seconds

>> No.11014284

>>11014241
Too late with the obfuscation, sweetie. You are constantly fucking up in the funniest ways, please continue.

>> No.11014290

>>11014132
You're complaining about men doing collective action in order to force women on the internet to not behave like whorish IRL women, while being a beneficiary of collective action that makes it so you're not paid peanuts for your labor.
The fiercest supporters of vtubers aren't guys who watch it with their girlfriends occasionally or w/e, it's guys whose sole contact with women is through them and vtubers know it. See that clip of Shirara freaking out over merely mentioning she has a boyfriend, she knew that her supporters knowing that she has a boyfriend is going to tank her career.

>> No.11014298

>>11014070
Pretty much this. There's also not really a problem with a vtuber having a boyfriend, just be upfront about it and let everyone know from the start. That way there won't be any schizos that get mad when it eventually gets revealed.

>> No.11014307

>>11014241
>Secondly, even an autist knows that a loving relationship is a key part of a happy meaningful life
Nah, celibacy is noble.
I'm happier and more fulfilled than any of the normalfags I know.

>> No.11014336

>>11014189
if she, Matuli, Fauna, Mumei were honest I wouldn't hate it. But the fact of lying is what makes me seeth

>> No.11014341

>>11014298
If anything, I find it easier to enjoy chuuba content when she is upfront about it.

>> No.11014352

>>11014307
based

>> No.11014363

>>11014307
With the divorce rate being how it is, they are joining you shortly anyway, and significantly poorer too.

>> No.11014367

>>11014053
>>11014269
Her viewership has basically doubled since this happened.

>> No.11014417

>>11014367
The exposure it have her more than made up for the blunder, but she can say goodbye to unicorns forever.

>> No.11014437

>>11014336
Mumei is not even doing GFE. She's doing the Beavis and Butt-head bit with her clock girl. Why are you seething?

>> No.11014438

>>11014367
I didn't account for NTR fan audience
the cuck fanbase can be a plus I didn't consider...

>> No.11014448

>>11014417
gave her*

>> No.11014488

>>11014437
she never mentioned being in a relationship did she?

>> No.11014497

>>11014438
>all the cuck porn promotion was just step one
>step two is vtubers
Holy shit it all makes sense now!

>> No.11014523

>>11014488
No. Is she obligated to? Is any holo?

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>>11013915
That's the heaviest pause I've ever heard in my life, lmfao. Chat seemed fine with it so it's whatever I guess.

>> No.11014593

>>11014132
>Unironically how so
you are the very person you accuse others of being
to me you genuinely seem to be one of the most unpleasant people to be around that I have ever seen on this board and thats quite a feat

>> No.11014630

>>11014367
She deleted the video and probably is suppressing any discussion regarding it. She's a literally who, so even minor exposure is going to result in big relative growth, the test will be what her numbers/growth looks like in a year. Things like Mumei/Ame even having a rumour of a boyfriend put a permanent dampening on their growth.

>> No.11014723

>>11014630
Ame doesn't look that dampened to me with her cool mil. Her and everybody else's problem is being in the shadow of a shark gian.

Which is why I wait for inevitable yabs with glee.

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>>11006112
>sell self as innocent pure virgin
>to cynically maximize your psychological exploitation of lonely men
>for the explicit purpose of tricking them into freely giving you money based on a false premise
>thereby committing fraud and false advertising
>hurr durr how do I keep doing that while shattering all their expectations
bitches and whores

>> No.11014829
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First you have to keep in mind that's the vtuber's version of the situation. For all we know, they did indulge in actions that definitely relate to GFE as a way to get viewers more invested and build an audience, and now realize her mistake.
If they came to 4chan to get their audience too, it comes with the package and there is no room for complaint, you get more numbers, but you get those exceptations.

But assuming it's the truth AND they didn't come here, there aren't many possibilities.
- Quitting your boyfriend : it's hard but if you're serious about your vtubing career it's the most efficient, staying single for a few years really isn't a big deal and will leave you more time and overall improve every aspect of vtubing.
- Living separately : your character is single but not you, to have 0 risk of ever breaking that immersion, have a room or better an apartment where only you can enter and where sounds doesn't reach. That way you keep your relationship if for some reason it matters, but you have no risk of ruining it all.
- You try to twist it as being in open relationships, depending on your audience they wouldn't mind as much and would keep the illusion of GFE
- You just say it and take the loss of viewership and especially of donators, and try building back from there, there is no smooth way of bringing it up, it will be hard no matter what

I watch a few vtubers who mention their relationship (mostly artists) and thanksfully it was clear from the start and didn't fool people into thinking it was the regular vtubing rules and expectations coming from how this industry started.

Good luck!

>> No.11014852

>>11014298
This advice is well-meaning but retarded.
If you go to a strip club and pick a favorite, she doesn't go "hey, babe, just to be clear, I have a boyfriend" before your lap dance.
It's a professional courtesy for the chuuba to keep her personal life personal. No one involved believes in their heart of hearts that she's a pure maiden unless she explicitly says she is.
(Yes, I'm aware that niche chuubas exist who will tell you all about their sex lives. These girls are not mainstream and never will be.)

>> No.11014883

>>11006112
I don't get why it seems so necessary for this vtuber's character to be in a relationship. Does it add something to the lore and they just "forgot" they needed it for so long? Do they have a fetish of making viewers feel like shit? Just stick to your character.

>> No.11014908

>>11013915
Is this that girl who was on the /wvt/ divegrass team? fucking kek, good meme.

>> No.11014962

>>11011940
>You either do it like Fubuki o
Way to out yourself as a fucking clipwatcher
Fubuki indeed did that "friend" meme which people kept repeating ad nauseam, but if you watch her streams, she actually totally uses GFE elements and would of course never ever mention being in a relationship. She's one of the most by-the-book idol vtubers with the exceptions of male collabs which are honestly w/e.

>> No.11014968

>>11007787
This rrat... It's too strong for me....

>> No.11015006

>>11009277
That vtuber is worried because clearly it seems most of their fanbase (at least the part that is invested and donate) would be leaving. Which honestly makes me think they're not being honest saying they always tried to make it clear it wasn't like that. "Unicorns" are easy to scare off, really.
Most likely they did pander, got an audience from it, and now aren't sure how to get out of this without losing too much.

>> No.11015014

>>11014962
newfags don't even know she does romance scenario asmrs

>> No.11015021

>>11014829
>being in open relationships
Now this is literal poison. Just think about it for a second and you'll see.

>> No.11015040

>>11010883
This, OP's situation feels off, I'm 100% sure they don't say the whole truth and they didn't make it clear at all so they could grow an audience.

>> No.11015058

>>11014883
Character is paper thin for absolute most of vtubers, real person starts coming through in like a month tops.

>> No.11015070

>>11011896
>Otherwise they would just use their real name
Basically none of the Hololive roommates ever used their real name as streamers before Hololive... they all use internet usernames. What's the difference between a username and a vtuber name. That argument is stupid. They also had anime profile pics on their nico nico accounts that didn't look like themselves either, so bad argument.

>> No.11015093

>>11013239
exhibit a: Ina

>> No.11015095

>>11006112
>innocent
Kill yourself.

>> No.11015131

>>11015093
No argument here. She lit the fuse under this particular barrel. Hard.

>> No.11015160

>>11014852
You go in to a strip club with the expectation that women there will want to take off their clothes. If you tell a ho in a strip club to strip and she acts as offended with you as if you said that to your co-worker then she is the one in the wrong, not you.
Whether you like it or not there is the expectation that vtubers are not romantically involved and that's what viewers expect, that's why guys will shill out big bucks for vtubers but not your average IRL thot who they know has a boyfriend. If a vtuber is against that it's on them to make it clear that they are not being a surrogate girlfriend, but most won't do that and in fact will be deathly afraid of people finding it out, because they know that they will lose growth and money.
If you act like a ho don't get offended when people treat you like a ho, if you act pure then don't act offended when people treat you and have expectations of purity from you.

>> No.11015174

>>11006112
>How do we stop the unicorn menace?
You don't, this is a tale as ancient as unrequited love is.
A guy falls in love with a girl, tries to hit on her. The girls misunderstands and friendzones him. Then she either gets a boyfriend or Chad Thundercock was railing her the whole time. The guy either gets scarred for life into inceldom or goes full schizo and harms someone.

>> No.11015193

>>11006112
>I've tried to avoid putting out any GFE vibes
>I'm doing them an incredible disservice BY LEADING THEM ON
Seems to me like we have a thot problem more than an unicorn problem

>> No.11015223

>>11006402
>Also at one point Wolfychu was more popular than Gura.
Wat. Do you mean Gura's past life or something? Or maybe Gura 1 day after she debuted?

>> No.11015237

>>11012416
...But I do watch male vtubers as well? I have one Vtuber I watch for GFE (who is explicitly GFE and encourages it) and the rest for entertainment. I got into the Hololive rabbit hole because they were funny, not for GFE, I didn't watch for GFE at all, but then watching one of the Holos I legitimately became a gachikoi for them. However the rest of the Vtubers I watch from Hololive, Holostars, etc are just for entertainment. Which is why I get annoyed when some of the Vtubers who weren't gachikoi a year ago start moving in that direction now. I'm watching you cause you're a comedian damn it, already have better GFE elsewhere.

>> No.11015247

>>11014852
vtubers are not prostitutes (except maybe vshoujo)
they are like hostesses in the hostess clubs, they keep lonely man company and entertain them
vtubing is basically ultimate evolution of geisha experience from the old past

>> No.11015274

I only watch if there's some form of GFE, I know exactly why I watch vtubers and it's not because they are amazing content creators (deep down the vtubers themselves know this too).
If one decides to mention a boyfriend, collab with a male, or implies anything related to not being GFE, I simply stop watching and supporting them.

>> No.11015277

>>11006112
>/wvt/
No surprise, even with how shit and full of newfags, it's still miles better than /wvt/ which honestly feels like a different website altogether, most the users are vtubers and half of them never used 4chan before finding that thread to use it as advertisement. That "my boyfriend..." oni girl was literally ghosposting IN THE ARCHIVES because she found desuarchive from google and thought it was the website
Most of them constantly only selfpost because what gain is there to not use your name after all? Since it's mostly vtubers obviously they'll push for any narrative that favors them over viewers.
It barely have any relation with 4chan.
And I say that as a viewer who used the thread for the first months and slowly left as vtubers invaded, I know linkanon and splitschizo and that weird intersex who got pressured into sharing nudes.
Yeah whatever.

>> No.11015291

>>11015193
This, just publicly say that you have a boyfriend and that you're not interested in being a GFE for lonely men on the internet.

>> No.11015293

>>11015247
Geisha experience included screwing the bitch. All the bullshit you see about being no touch is just that, bullshit.

>> No.11015305

>>11008547
Only reasonable take in this thread.

>> No.11015332

>>11015291
And lose your income, yeah.
Are we really timelooping inside a single thread now?

>> No.11015368

>>11015293
true geishas never fucked their clients you moron.
the whole misunderstood perception of geisha as a white came about after WW2 Japanese prostitutes would call themselves geisha to attract american men who wanted exotic experience.
you can to this day find true geisha in Kyoto who keep you company, sing, dance and serve you tea

>> No.11015385

>>11007751
Absolutely based.
>>11008011
Indescribably, fedora-tippingly cringe.

>> No.11015391

>>11015368
Lol deluded cuck. Geisha is a prostitute with some pr applied, nothing more.

>> No.11015399

>>11015291
It's not anyone's business if they're in a relationship or not. You don't have an automatic right to know. Even if you give money to them. Trust me a lot of chuubas don't want conditional support.

>> No.11015427

>>11015391
>never been to japan or studied japanese culture

>> No.11015429

>>11015399
Who even gives a fuck what they want, support will ALWAYS be conditional.

>> No.11015455

Look at it from the other side. Let's say you have a girlfriend, and then you become friends with another girl. You go with her to see movies, hang out, etc - you are honestly just friends. You don't tell your girlfriend. After some time she finds out and accuses you of two-timing her because your behavioral pattern fits every instance of dating. You say there's nothing between you but she doesn't believe you; she feels betrayed and breaks it off.
Who's in the wrong? Do you really have an obligation to tell her just because you've made a new friend just because that friend is female? By most of these arguments that claim omission is fine, no, right? But it's clear what she thinks it looks like. It's clear what society thinks it looks like. It would be argued that even if you literally did or felt nothing improper, you should have considered how your girlfriend would have seen the situation. You should have been clear of the expectations that she had towards the relationship and how your actions would have apparently trampled on those expectations if they came to light, and dealt with it early on, either by introducing the other girl early on or not doing it in the first place.
Viewers are the same thing. If you are aware of the expectations some of them have towards you, and that disregarding these expectations would significantly damage your relationship with your viewerbase later on, you should bite the bullet and deal with it early. If you don't, then the consequences that come your way later on are yours to bear regardless of who is 'in the right'. You can protest about being faithful and how your girlfriend should really be more reasonable and trusting because you objectively did nothing wrong, but you're still dumped. Similarly you can whine all you like about how unicorns should somehow drop everything that practically defines them as unicorns (except for the paypig part), but we live in the real world and you don't get to change people with 'shoulds'.

>> No.11015466

>>11015427
>literal whores
>muh culcha
As I said, just some PR. And you bought it, you imbecile.

>> No.11015473

>>11015368
You are completely delusional if you think paying for non-sexual companionship was a thing before 2010.

>> No.11015479

>>11015399
if Japanese idols used to have to sign official papers that they would not be in relationship while they work as idols (now the agreement is verbal) why can't vtubers who go gfe route do the same?

>> No.11015485

>>11015399
every form of support is conditional

>> No.11015492

>>11015429
If you don't give a shit about what they want, why should they give a shit about what you want?

>> No.11015508

>>11015492
Because they want my money, duh.

>> No.11015520

>>11015455
bruh but the only people who have these expectations is hololive idols
Retards expecting it to apply to every Vtuber are schizo retards who don't watch Vtubers
If you're a Vtuber and a girl and don't pander to GFE, then no, there is no expectation that you must be single.
Hololive & GFE is the exception not the rule

>> No.11015525

>>11015247
Ironically Vshojews are very good at not being GFE leeches

>> No.11015534

>>11006112
>How do we stop the thot menace? Innocent unicorns don't deserve this.
ftfy

>> No.11015545

>>11015534
Something something white sharia.

>> No.11015549

>>11015473
it literally was, but ok
moron

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>>11015332
If they'd rather have the money then they need to stop bitching about what that money comes with.
It's like this thot complaining about getting paid lots of money for having sex with men despite not actually finding them attractive. No you were not raped, you chose the money and the associated obligation.

>> No.11015558

>monetizes men loneliness
>doesn't want to deal with lonely men
I don't get it.

>> No.11015562

>>11015508
Trust me most chuubas don't give a shit about your lil 5 dollar sub, especially if you're gonna end up acting like you own them because of it. This is a hobby for most chuubas.

>> No.11015576

>>11015562
Cease your whiteknighting lol.

>> No.11015591

>>11015562
>Trust me most chuubas don't give a shit about your lil 5 dollar sub
Then i'm sure they won't fear the risk of losing my lil 5 dollar sub by disclosing their relationship status

>> No.11015607

>>11015558
Women.

>> No.11015630

>>11015576
If not being a schizo retard = whiteknighting then I'm perfectly fine with that

>> No.11015634

>>11015552
the fuck you're missing that prostitution primarily targets poor people with no skills who have no other choice but to sell their bodies to avoid dying
There's a societal context to prostitution which is completely different than Vtubing. Most people do Vtubing as a hobby, and the ones that made it big had to have actively tried to stream a lot (without it paying out). There was essentially no obligation of force with Vtubing. With prostitution there's the implicit obligation of if I don't sell my body, I have no skills and will not be able to buy food and die.

>> No.11015636

>>11015562
>never heard of gachikoi

there is a reason that Rushia has biggest earnings, she panders to lonely man and she likes it on the top of that. majority of vtubers know that having loyal gachikoi who literally fell in love with them is a benefit.

>> No.11015658

>>11015630
Shame you are a retarded whiteknight then.

>> No.11015666

>>11015591
It's still none of your business what their relationship status is, and if it's contingent on that, just assume everyone is in a relationship and keep your subs to yourself.

>> No.11015672

>>11015634
>With prostitution there's the implicit obligation of if I don't sell my body, I have no skills and will not be able to buy food and die.
Absolute drivel, there's prostitutes that own mansions larger than that fag Hasan's

>> No.11015675

>>11015399
Yes it is, if you're a slut in a strip club then don't be offended when men tell you to take off your clothes. If you're a woman and stupid, and don't realize that all vtubing is based on being a surrogate girlfriend, then you have no business being in the industry.
There is no MLG-worthy vtuber, no one watches a vtuber for their pro minecraft skills, they watch them because they're lonely men who escape that loneliness via pretending that she's their girlfriend. If you don't want that then simply announce that you have a boyfriend or otherwise don't want to be a GFE for men, and take the associated drop in support.

>> No.11015686

>>11015332
Why do you believe you're entitled to both make money off of people who wouldn't be paying you if they knew you were doing something, and entitled to do that something?
When did the world become so crazy that we started to think that people shouldn't be allowed to request a product that meets their standards, regardless of those standards? Jesus

>> No.11015700

Chuuba boyfriends are the modern pimps

>> No.11015703

>>11015672
Yeah ok well fuck rich prostitues, who cares, you do know the vast majority of prostitutes for the vast majority of time are not well off

>> No.11015704

>>11015672
>exceptions prove the rule
It's not even a 0.1% of prostitutes who are so well off.

>> No.11015727

>>11015666
See >>11015160

>> No.11015742

>>11015686
Women were always like this, in any era.

>> No.11015751

>>11015223
He means youtube subs
She's still at 3.25m

>> No.11015800

>>11015700
I would do the same if my gf became a chuuba

>> No.11015801

>>11015634
This is false, every one of these whores could have simply done what men do, and work shitty jobs to make a living. The whores don't actually want to work hard but want a top-tier lifestyle, so they deserve all the shit that whoring comes with.
Every vtuber likewise can simply disclose their relationship status and not do GFE, instead simply playing games and showcasing their talents, without the implication of this being a surrogate girlfriend experience. No one is being forced, don't want unicorns then simply say that you're taken.

>> No.11015803

>>11015520
It's funny because people will nickel and dime the fuck out of this argument, to the point where they apply it to Hololive as well
Not gatekeeping hard enough has led to Hololive EN having at least 2/5 of its members having confirmed boyfriends, and people unironically defending that shit
No, the truth is that being single is the expectation everywhere, but a bunch of ungrateful women cannot handle being single, so they're constantly conflicting with their audience

Literally all you have to do is BE SINGLE
IT'S NOT HARD
JUST LITERALLY DO NOT FUCK
IT WON'T KILL YOU
IT LIKELY WILL MAKE YOUR LIFE APPRECIABLY EASIER OVERALL
I don't understand why people have to make this so fucking difficult, it boggles the mind

>> No.11015826

>>11015703
>>11015704
In Germany (where prostitution is fully legal and well-regulated) a mid-tier prostitute can make 150€ /HOUR. They could be working as housekeepers, waitresses, store clerks, call center operators or any other shitty job for unskilled people but no, they choose to take the cock. You don't know what THE FUCK you're talking about

>> No.11015856

>>11015826
Sure, Shlomo, suuuure.

>> No.11015857

>>11015634
>Most people do Vtubing as a hobby
Then tag yourself as hobby channel and disable SC, problem solved.

>> No.11015875

>>11010122
This. You're fighting against basic biology. Guys, at least ones with an ounce of dignity/sanity, do never actually want to give their own resources to a girl who should be supported already, not if they actually understand women. You may have weird Arabs or indians etc who have utterly backwards ideas about women thinking just giving a girl diamonds will make her fall in love with them instead of be an informal solicitation of prostitution. Maybe those kinds of morons will still donate. Average westerner though no. If you assume everyone watching is a beta orbiter who can be convinced to anyway that is incorrect as fuck - an orbiter simp will still hang with a girl with a boyfriend hoping he somehow still might have a chance, yes. However even those guys won't be giving lavish gifts to the girl openly declaring their love, because they are gonna get beat up / confronted by the actual BF. They want to hide in a crevasse hoping a time will come. In any case such guys have been made fun of by other guys since probably the dawn of time. You don't want to be that guy if you can help it and it is really really easy to just go pick someone else online, one of the other thousands of chuubas.

Another part of it is from what we've known, a lot of chuubas are not that impressive IRL, I mean that is often why they became one in the first place. So their Bfs generally are not very impressive either. Ugly or balding or just hugely flawed in some way, poor, uneducated etc. Dudes who have thousands to spare and nothing but good intentions see that and think "THIS fucking loser is good enough for my oshi? My oshi is just some stupid basic bitch? Fuck this shit I can do better, I've been wasting my time" and get actually disinterested/turned off because the suspension of disbelief of the chuuba being what you see on the screen vanishes. If they snap the image they present into dust then the only people left would be the absolutely most hopeless/desperate, plus the casual audience that will never give much or any money in the first place. This is just free entertainment for the 99% of viewers who are not whales.

Lastly it's like, does a girl HAVE to have a BF at all times? Is this some kind of gender privilege they are incredibly blindly unaware of at work? The assumption you MUST have one and everyone must be lying is just that. In Japan literally a quarter of women ranging 20-40 are virgin (and like 1/3rd of men). Society is different there - when it's like 1/4 odds period even the most purist unicorn demands are not THAT unrealistic there. Once you understand this it makes more sense why people on /jp/ still hate HoloEN, hate any EN chuubas as 'western whores' etc because they know the odds and see Western girl streamers are a way more flawed product period.

>> No.11015878

>>11015857
This is based.

>> No.11015884

>>11006789
Lol dude, instead of worshipping pussy to autistic levels - getting a whore like getting a doner kebab at the end of the week is more sensible and healthier. Builds your self-image because you're not out there hungry, desperate for pussy. Reset whole dynamic in relationships because you have other options.

>> No.11015895

>>11015826
Prostitution is illegal in the US, targets extremely poor people down on their luck, and as far as I can tell, the person was speaking English. In regulated countries in the EU prostitutes can make money in the modern day. However this has not been historically the case, and is primarily not the case in most countries.

>> No.11015946

>>11015895
Perhaps you should visit the Artemis in Berlin or the Pascha in Cologne, 2 of the largest brothels IN THE WORLD and lose your virginity to one of the incredibly nice and professional ladies that work there. By the way if i pay a prostitute and later on she even tries to say i can't fuck her right in the pussy because she's on her period or whatever and refuses to give me back my money i can literally call the police on her

>> No.11015995

>>11015857
Do you not understand who I'm referring to as "Most people do Vtubing as a hobby" retard? The thousands of 2views who make nothing. They do it as a hobby. They don't even need to disable donations because no-one donates to them anyway. I don't think random indie with next to no views has any obligation to be GFE (well half of them aren't even girls) just because they have an anime avatar. They're doing it for fun. You misunderstood the people I was talking about.

>> No.11016004

>>11015895
netherlander here
my college friend went into being a prostitute and is now earning amount of money I could only dream about
It is good career choice if you are attractive and self confident

>> No.11016035

>>11015946
I'd rather stay a virgin, thanks. Was in Deutschland the other year though, nice place.

>> No.11016090

>>11015875
I don't know about them being THAT unattractive. At least three in EN1 have pretty nice looks. About same for EN2, not sure what's the JP ratio would be, but then I'm not their target market anyway.

>> No.11016122

>>11016004
Do you understand what it actually says about your country?

>> No.11016134

>>11015995
And those don't have a fanbase or unicorns, so what is your point? Girls who are good at vtubing are going to be the ones who do GFE, and if they don't want to do it they can simply say they're taken.

>> No.11016147

>>11015946
>Cologne
>the Pascha
Holy shit, the irony here is beyond delicious.

>> No.11016159

>>11015875
>In Japan literally a quarter of women ranging 20-40 are virgin
Right. Sorry, but calling bs on that one.

>> No.11016178

>>11016159
Le polls, anon. They be always tellin' da truf.

>> No.11016179

>>11016159
Nigger why do you think their population is crashing? It ain't just the guys.

>> No.11016189

>>11016035
>I'd rather stay a virgin
Reconsider. More frogs have been turned into princes by a hooker's bj than by a maid's kiss

>>11016147
Traditional German name

>> No.11016199

>>11015552
>logic works with literally 99% of jobs

>> No.11016202

>>11013746
I am actually kinda curious about why Nijis didn't catch the wave desu. If you were there at the time, could you share your experience about niji clips and why you think they didn't catch on?

For me personally, Hololive had few enough members at the time (no ID branch, no EN) that I could learn who they were and what they were about by watching maybe 3-5 mins of content.
And of course Asacoco helped a lot by having small digestible 20min chunks that were very clippable while introducing holo talents I wasn't familiar with.
Now, although the number of talents have grown, for someone like me I've been eased into it over the course of a year and a half so it wasn't too bad.

Back in those days, most of the clips were from Lulu and Gibara streams, but they were mostly solo and didn't give me much incentive to dive into other Njis...
And even when I actively tried (after around 3-4 months of Holo stuff) I just saw their large roster and noped out.

>> No.11016218

>>11016134
I literally differentiated the people who do it from a hobby and the people who make money off of it, can you read. My point was it takes an active amount of effort and consented knowledge of what they're doing to make it big, and that basically nobody accidentally stumbles into "oh I'm a Vtuber" or is exploited into being a Vtuber because their life depends on it.
Take a class on reading comprehension.

>> No.11016248

>>11016189
Lol desperate cope.

>> No.11016288

>>11016179
>why do you think their population is crashing?
See? THIS, is where you can actually try to talk about the culture affecting it. But people refusing to make children has nothing to do with being a virgin.

>> No.11016299

>>11016179
Their population is crashing because japanese state replaced the male in the life of a woman, this one is easy to answer, same thing is happening all over the planet.

>> No.11016305

>>11016248
On the contrary, stoic resignation

>> No.11016310

>>11016202
Niji didn't have a sense of community. Didn't care about their oversea fans. Hololive community was bustling with /r/hololive being very active. Most clips were Hololive. Even if you liked a Nijisanji member, it never felt like you liked Nijisanji as a whole. They were basically the same as an indie just with a logo next to their name. If you liked a Hololive member, you basically signed up for liking the whole group. Hololive had inside jokes and memes and essentially a community that Niji didn't.

>> No.11016330

>>11016305
Same result: you get stabbed.

>> No.11016347

>>11016330
Thus far i'm the one who has stabbed, with my meat sword

>> No.11016367

>>11016347
Tell that to Abdullah, sweetie.

>> No.11016377

>>11016122
that we are free? that men like sexual service and are ready to pay for good time?

>> No.11016399

>>11016377
You are fucked. Most of all, because you don't even have the apparatus in your head to understand it.

>> No.11016404

>>11016199
>work is just paid slavery
Yes

>> No.11016418

>>11016122
>>11015895
Being able to use your body as you please, be it prostitution or not, is a big fight of feminism, people trying to make it illegal are conservative right wings and mostly sexist mens.

>> No.11016428

>>11016367
He's also been doing the stabbing. Into a doner kebab

>> No.11016454

>>11016399
okay mutt whatever keeps you seething

>> No.11016463

>>11016428
Hans does not like to think about that while eating it, you see.

>> No.11016465

>>11016399
Not him but what's your problem here? Better yet, why do you have to be so mad about it?
I would never go to prostitutes for subjective reasons but I can at least understand why it's beneficial for some men.

>> No.11016494

>>11016399
Ride the tiger

>> No.11016499

>>11016454
Nice projection here, cuck. I am actually enjoying your self-destruction.
>>11016465
Another nice set of projections, kek. Try reading what was posted next time, sweetie, if you have the faculties to.

>> No.11016514

>>11016418
I am the person who talked about prostitution being illegal.
I am not >>11016248 or >>11016330 or >>11016367 or >>11016399 .
I understand that legalizing sex work is a big part of feminism, hence why I was talking about exploited women under the threat of starving historically and in country where prostitution is illegal, and not the prostitutes who are well off in countries with regulated sex work.

>> No.11016516

>>11016418
Prostitution being illegal but women being allowed to sleep around is a kosher sandwhich that retarded Americans ate up and are trying to export worldwide, it's the worst of all worlds. Either we live in a society and have obligations to each other, or it's dog-eat-dog world and 0% of my income should go towards feeding some single mom's bastard children.

>> No.11016525

>>11016494
What he's actually riding is the slope. It will be gloriously bad below, and I will laugh heartily.

>> No.11016544

You know what else would be nice? For fans to not delude themselves that they have a chance with chuuba. It simply won't happen.

>> No.11016566

>>11016525
In the meantime i'll be getting balls deep into a hot eastern European girl

>> No.11016594

>>11016544
I doubt even one single percent of any chuuba's audience is like that. That's not to say others should have absolutely no expectations of chuuba conduct either, of course.

>> No.11016599

>>11016499
I didn't say I pay for the prostitutes you moron
only that it is a respectable career choice that pays good. Why do you care what women or men do with their own bodies?

>> No.11016611

>>11016514
If women don't care about my suffering, and there being zero expectation that lonely men like me are provided with wives (as women naturally prefer to be pump and dumped by Chad), why should I care if they starve or not?

>> No.11016616

>>11016566
You are so deliciously desperate. Please, keep telling me how you are so totally getting laid, I truly believe you!

>> No.11016639

>>11016599
>respectable career choice
Come on now anon, you can't really believe this.

>> No.11016649

>>11015803
Why though?

>> No.11016650

>>11016544
I don't think most fans actually think they have a chance. They like the idea of being a sugar daddy to a decent girl who can entertain them and be cute. A dude being in the picture IRL makes her not sugar daddy material anymore.

If a girl proves to be a conniving bitch and most especially if a girl proves to not repsect her fans, she is no longer a decent-seeming girl. Respect your fans and their will or you might as well graduate yourselves and save them the heartache.

>> No.11016651

>>11016599
>standard cuck excuses keep coming
It's like you're actively trying to be sad. Are you?

>> No.11016659

>>11016616
Well not right now because of the coof of course

>> No.11016667

>>11016499
What I can clearly see is how you have no arguments.

>le sweetie
Ok, so you're basically a retard and a shitposter. 2/10 you actually made me reply to you twice.

>> No.11016682

>>11016611
You are free to care as little as I care about whether you starve or not. Just in the same way you view everyone not beneficial to yourself as expendable to society, you are equally worthless to everyone else.
Gilgamesh would've killed worthless worms like you.

>> No.11016684

>>11016544
Idolfags know that it will never happen, but that doesn't mean their feelings change

>> No.11016696

>>11015875
>Lastly it's like, does a girl HAVE to have a BF at all times? Is this some kind of gender privilege they are incredibly blindly unaware of at work?
I dont get this meme either

>> No.11016725

>>11016659
>immediately excuses
Oh cuck anon, why are you so easy.
>>11016667
>arguments
You are literally retarded if you thought this bout of me making fun of your cuck ass constitutes an argument of any kind. Like, you are retarded in a medical sense and should be euthanized.

>> No.11016739

>>11013601
lol “boss” more like customers.
And it’s not all that uncommon for some people to insult particularly annoying customers when they’re consistently annoying and unreasonable, especially if you have plenty of other customers who will patronize you even if one Karen threatens to go shop somewhere else.
But if you regularly insult all your customers, all the time, I agree you should find another line of work.

>> No.11016744

Why is it so hard for people to be ok with being lonely? I don't understand being so afraid of being alone that you attach yourself to a person behind an avatar behind a screen across the ocean. I went through all of highschool without friends barley talking to people and ive never felt a romantic interest or attraction to streamers/ vtubers. I just do not understand that part of vtuber fans, it makes no sense to me.

>> No.11016749

>>11016725
I don't understand, you think i'm lying about brothels existing?

>> No.11016755

>>11016544
It's not about having a chance, it's about having a dream. That's what the GFE sells.

>> No.11016769

>>11016684
Basically this, you know you won't be with them, but that won't stop your from feeling the emotions.
It's not like we have anywhere else to put them.

>> No.11016770

>>11016651
I'm not a cuck as I don't go to prostitutes.
I also think that prostitutes shouldn't have a bf and work such job.
I really don't get why are you sperging out

>> No.11016777

>>11016749
Of course you don't understand, we already estabilished that.

>> No.11016796

>>11016544
I mean I don't expect to be able to get in a relationship with the oshi I'm gachikoi for, but I expect her not to get a boyfriend. Not because I love her, but because she has explicitly said multiple times how she expects chat's love, how she loves us, and from she's actually mentally ill in the same way us gachikois are. I wouldn't stop watching her but I'd be disappointed, mainly because her taste in men is trash and he'll definitely hurt her and potentially make her suicidal.

>> No.11016804

>>11016682
What? I'm saying if the argument is that the government has an obligation to provide for women, and make sure they don't starve, then why doesn't it have an obligation to provide wives for lonely men?
Again, we either live in a society (where members try to alleviate each other's suffering) or we don't, this retarded halfway shit that screws me on every end is slavery.

>> No.11016811

>>11016770
You are sad.

>> No.11016817

>>11016418
there are quite a few feminist countries where being a prostitue is legal but paying for sex is illegal

>> No.11016825

>>11016777
I think you are a fag

>> No.11016847

>>11016744
Because it's evolutionally counterproductive. If you are alone, you are at the mercy of a chance every second of your day. Nobody to care for you when you are sick, nobody to cover your back in a fight.

>> No.11016852

>>11014307
30yo virgin here.
Life is a lot of fun nowadays.

>> No.11016874

>>11016744
I've browsed /a/ for a long time and I never understood the waifuism there, but once I got into Japanese and Korean idols (and now vtubers) and started falling for them I understood it from that perspective.

>> No.11016885

>>11016825
That's a big mistake here. You have nothing to think with.

>> No.11016890

>>11016811
I'm pretty happy with my life
the one who is sad is (you) because you think you have a right to tell other people how to live

>> No.11016896

>>11016544
Once again this is completely missing the point and likely a newfag who came after HoloEN.
"Having a chance" was NEVER the issue, never. It's about the vtuber-viewer interaction and exchange of attention. If you have a lover in your life it completely change everything in how viewers and vtubers can depend on each other.
I've had some friends become completely different and stop being close to me once they got a girlfriend.

>> No.11016905

>>11016804
The fuck? Why does women not starving = you need a wife? Shouldn't it be everyone doesn't starve? I wasn't even making that claim (though I agree with it), I was simply noting that countries without regulated prostitution specifically aims to exploit women who are down on their luck who barely have a choice and screws them over excessively. Regulated prostitution is like regulated drug dealing, it's better for everyone involved.

>> No.11016907

>>11016817
Sweden
Yes
Punish EXCLUSIVELY the client. It's so bad that even the fucking ACLU and the UN have criticized it

>> No.11016908

>>11016847
>quite a few
Get rich, find a gold digger to marry or fuck, hire bodyguards. If you can’t do that it’s probably for the same reasons you can’t get laid.

>> No.11016914

>>11016890
You are sad, and you are confirming it nonstop for some weird reason.

>> No.11016916

>>11016896
> If you have a lover in your life it completely change everything in how viewers and vtubers can depend on each other.
No it doesn't.

>> No.11016935

>>11016885
Cry harder fag and get out of your virginity armor

>> No.11016946

>>11016908
>get rich
And how far along are you on this journey, fellow 4chins poster?

>> No.11016963

>>11016914
explain what is should I feel about sad exactly because I honestly don't get it

>> No.11016964

>>11016896
>>11016916
Both of you are wrong. It can change things, or it could change nothing, it depends on the person. Source for an example of someone who it changes nothing: Tamaki.

>> No.11016967

>>11016916
At this point there are more newfag tourists like you than channers on this fucking board, what a shame.

>> No.11016972

>>11016935
Your attempts at biting would be funny if you actually had teeth. But you don't.

>> No.11016976

>>11016946
The journey toward getting rich or the journey toward giving up because I will never be rich?

>> No.11016985

>>11016972
I'm not the one whining because people in foreign countries have sex

>> No.11017025

>>11016976
That's one common interpretation, yes.
>>11016985
You are exactly the one whining. Keep whining, entertain me more.

>> No.11017046

>>11017025
>NO U
Lmao good job

>> No.11017080

>>11016967
Not a newfag, just not an idolfag like you. Cry harder, then kill yourself.

>> No.11017089

>>11016905
Men are not the ones who the government is making sure they don't starve, women are, since women are less materially competent than men and need our support. This is proven by the claim that if prostitution was not available to them then they would starve, where as it's already not available to men and we do not starve.
Women themselves want prostitution banned, if you're a traditionalist your issue isn't banning prostitution it's arranged marriages and punishing adultery. (((Modern))) society panders to women on every level, so much so that in many countries selling sex is legal but buying it isn't.

>> No.11017115

>>11017046
Unironically so. You keep coming back like an obedient bitch, asking again and again.
Now entertain me more.

>> No.11017129

>>11017089
Can't tell if bait or serious but either way, you should consider killing yourself.

>> No.11017153

>>11013309
>white christmas oni
Who and qrd?

>> No.11017177

>>11017115
>I HAVE TO HAVE THE LAST WORD!!!!111
>I'M NOT CRYING YOU ARE CRYING!!11!
Lmao sure

>> No.11017188

>>11006112
>innocent
lmao, not innocent, IGNORANT
as in, women are fucking ignorant and don't realize their only worth to the vast majority of men is whether they are available to them or not
yea you have to fucking worry about your audience finding out you have a significant other because if they do, your value to a lot of them goes to zero immediately

>> No.11017234

>>11017177
Right back at you, sweetie.
Now keep coming back.

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>>11017080
there is nothing wrong with being an Idolfag
entire Japanese entertainment industry was built on their backs

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>>11017238
>entire Japanese entertainment industry was built on their backs
And they should still all kill themselves.

>> No.11017279

>>11016905
>who barely have a choice
Why arent men starving en mass then?

>> No.11017282

>>11017129
How is stating basic biological facts bait? Be specific.

>> No.11017303

>>11017279
Starving for love maybe...

>> No.11017307

>>11017080
>Not a newfag
sure dude

>> No.11017316

>>11017262
just say you don't like Japanese culture in which idol culture permeates every aspect and leave

>> No.11017343

>>11017316
>Japanese culture
>in which idol culture permeates every aspect
Now that's some hardcore fucking reductionism right here. I consider japs subhuman bugs, and even so I won't reduce them thus.

>> No.11017377

>>11015520
You think this is about the expectation of 'being single'. It is not. This is about the expectation of not being duplicitous, or at least, to not be perceived as such.
Many streamers, vtuber or not, share frankly excessive amounts of their lives with their viewers for content. They give anecdotes about their parents, their friends, their childhood, their opinions on everything under the sun, what they did over the weekend, what movies they watched - the level of information given and questions answered by streamers exceeds what a lot of people get from most of their friends, given the amount of hours they spend with a dedicated audience. This is what leads people to treat them as that they aren't just 'playing a character'. They aren't telling me about how they studied magic theoretics with Arianae the fairy professor a thousand years ago, they're telling me stories obviously plucked from their real life, in the real world, with real names, about how they mispronounced their order at Starbucks and some hipster with a Macbook looked at them funny.
The sheer quantity of personal information makes the lack of information about a significant other take on its own significance. There is a sense that the only thing the vtuber is hiding is their personal identity and people tracking them down, which is all well and good - but it does imply that little else is hidden. Which then leads to the intuitive assumptions being made; if you share family and friend anecdotes, why would you not share boyfriend anecdotes as well? The conclusion that most people naturally reach is that there is none.
So if it does turn out they do have a boyfriend, of course there is a strong sense of dissonance within the viewerbase.
Worse of all, it is through the obviously demonstrated fear and avoidance of being discovered that the streamer has already judged herself - "If there is nothing wrong with having a boyfriend, why did she hide it? Why did she share so much else about her life but not him?" The very act of trying to hide something already carries an assumption of misconduct. It is very difficult to defend a client who plainly believes that they are guilty. It strongly cements the feeling that the streamer has deliberately and steadily deceived the audience. And that feeling of being lied to by deliberate omission, reasonable or not, is not something many viewers are comfortable with dealing with when they come only for entertainment.

>> No.11017390

>>11017282
>Be specific
Yeah, I'll be specific, you're polluting this thread with your dumbass trolling. Some people were actually trying to have a discussion, even if the people here are retarded. Everyone knows you're just baiting.
I won't continue to respond and everyone else should do the same, don't throw scraps to wild animals.

>> No.11017437

>>11017343
just look at their anime, games, TV or entertainment news
80% of it is idol shit

>> No.11017444

>>11017390
I'm not even the person you're responding to and I can say that you're a cringe retard.

>> No.11017465

>>11017390
>appeals to "trolling"
>appeals to "everyone knows"
It's quite nice when the likes of you btfo yourselves on command. Thanks!

>> No.11017515

>>11017377
Oh no, I agree with what you said. I mean some people don't share that excessive amount of information. Some people just fucking play Apex for 12 hours with an anime avatar. Some people just speedrun a game with a female vtuber avatar like autists everyday.
I'm more like, the expectation that every single Vtuber has an obligation to be single by pure virtue of being a Vtuber is retarded. People who build significant parasocial relationships with the intention of deceiving their audience, yeah ok, people can feel betrayed by that.
All vtubers? No. If a Vtuber refrains from talking much about their personal life, then there should be no expectation.

>> No.11017529

>>11017377
You ignored the fact that all incels that hinge their appreciation of vtubers on whether they have a bf or not deserved to be exploited and lied to.
It's only sound decisionmaking that encourages female vtubers to lie by omission because those people, who have been shown to and WILL resort to stalking and violence, exist.
Incels created the problem for themselves and perpetuate it willingly.

>> No.11017568

Just tell the truth and give up the money, after all, you're doing this for fun, right?

>> No.11017580

>>11016649
>why though
Doesn't matter

>> No.11017601

>>11016744
>I don't understand being so afraid of being alone
Let's talk about it again after you're reached the 40y mark.

>> No.11017613

wats a unicorn. go ahead yell at me for being a newfag but the word has so many slang meanings it’s not something I can easily Google. How is it different from incel?

>> No.11017634

>>11017613
Incel is just a man who would like to have a sexual relationship with a woman, but for various reasons can not.
Unicorn will be explained to you momentarily.

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>>11017377
Incredibly based. I must kneel

>> No.11017670

>>11017529
>deserved to be exploited and lied to.
Ah okay, so you just hate men like me. Then I can as easily say that all vtubers who received negative effects for their lying likewise deserve it.

>> No.11017717

>>11017634
>Incel is just a man who would like to have a sexual relationship with a woman, but for various reasons can not.
lul that’s the incel-preferred definition. That’s what they wish it meant. A wrinkly old widow simply looking for a nice man would be an incel according to this definition, but most of it know what it really refers to. Words have denotations, but they also have connotations.

>> No.11017766

>>11017717
No it's just you being a hateful normie thinking it's a righteous act to make fun of nerds.

>> No.11017767

>>11017717
Yep, I gave you the standard full definition.
Everything else is your interpretations through which your ugly self comes out instantly.

And yes, a woman can be an incel too.

>> No.11017770

>>11017670
And you'll be the psychotic coper, and I won't.

>> No.11017772

>>11017717
>Words have denotations, but they also have connotations.
Just like "Vtuber"

>> No.11017806

>>11017670
>it's okay that there are millions of lonely men suffering every day, so much so that they need to turn to internet anime girls for comfort
>oh nooooo a handful of whores received negative backlash in the wake of their lying
I will never understand men who simp for women and throw their own gender under the bus.

>> No.11017816

>>11017377
Screencapping this. Incredibly based

>> No.11017830

Thank fuck and good riddance to this shit thread full of whinging sycophants and retarded non-arguments, please get bent out of shape harder over roneryfags daring to speak up about their retarded ass taste, your salty ass is music to mine ears niggers

>> No.11017877

I will marry my oshi...

>> No.11017882

>>11017770
Where am I coping, the biggest Vtuber company in the world is proof of my worldview.

>> No.11017889

>>11017830
Dibs on posting this tomorrow

>> No.11017925

>>11017529
Frankly, this is not about 'deserve' or not. You just said it, people who will resort to stalking and violence for these reasons exist. They will always exist. They will not change themselves. They might probably even grow in number over the years.
Once you take this as an immutable fact of the situation, the only thing that remains is for mutable parties to modify their responses to it.
Lying by omission is only a viable solution if a vtuber in a relationship can maintain it indefinitely. But because so many of them are not and probably cannot ever be technically competent enough to hide all traces of their identity and their personal relationships, when it inevitably happens it makes the situation even worse. It's a powder keg waiting to explode.
However, if it is exposed from the start and even made an element of the stream, the impact is diffused. These people will not have time to become sufficiently attached before they leave in disgust. Of course, there might still be a few crazies who strike on principle - but these will always be there, and in their own communities, would they not rally against more incendiary targets? As cold as it is, you don't have to run faster than the bear, you just have to run faster than the slowest runner.
So why make yourself the slowest runner? Of course, with higher risk comes higher reward, though that is also a matter of both wanting to have your cake and eating it - do you want the relationship or the extra money more? If you get lucky and you're never found out, good for you. But if or when it happens, be ready to reap the whirlwind.

>> No.11017996

>>11017766
>>11017767
“Awww that was mean” is not a linguistic argument. It wasn’t mean, and incels deserve to be abused, anyway.
Incels don’t own the word and don’t get to define it any more that I do, but if you ask they hypothetical “reasonable person” who knows the word, they understand exactly what it refers to, and it’s not the neutral or innocuous definition found on the incel wiki page.
It’s like asking a “racial realist” what the term means as opposed to asking a less kooky person who doesn’t actually suffer from the believes that the term implies.

>> No.11017998

Also I'm gonna marry my oshi IRL, I genuinely believe this, fuck you all, I'm doing my reps and you literally cannot stop me

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>itt Unicorns trying to justify their faggotry
A Chuba needs to be firm with these buck ya hear. She needs to force them down and make them bite some dirt. Then the chuuba needs to make a very hard a firm point that unicorns best obey.

>> No.11018021

>>11017996
>“Awww that was mean” is not a linguistic argument. It wasn’t mean, and incels deserve to be abused, anyway.
Bro what's your issue.

>> No.11018025

>>11017996
Tranny hands wrote this post. 41% yourself

>> No.11018033

>>11017806
you see he is not like other men

>> No.11018052

>>11018025
You’re being so hateful

>> No.11018065

>>11017996
Ah so you're literally just a jewish shill, no wonder you are defending the jewish-world order of exploitation and induced suffering of gentile men.
Brothers this is the face of the enemy, reminder that they actually enjoy and laugh at your suffering.

>> No.11018077

>>11018052
Trannies don't deserve to live. Thankfully it's a self-fixing problem

>> No.11018120

>>11017377
Jumping to conclusions purely from assumptions is not a way to go.

>> No.11018129

>>11018065
I’ve never been Jewish - not sure where that came came from - but the second part is definitely true. People do enjoy and laugh at the suffering of incels.
What about Jewish incels, though?

>> No.11018144

I like how the thread unites in the understanding of ultimate need to gas the kikes, I really do.

>> No.11018179

>>11018129
You will never be a woman. People find you incredibly repulsive and every bit of validation you'll ever receive in your (thankfully short) life is fake

>> No.11018183

>>11018006
We have seen from the above that if you're anti-unicorn you're just buying in to the jewish worldview (e.g. irrational hatred towards race realism, defending trannyism), so please do not appropriate anti-Zionist memes like that, it looks really cringe.

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>>11018183
Quit trying to sound smart you faggot you are talking about anime girl youtubers.

>> No.11018239

>>11018129
You wish you were jewish, but you're just a trannyssary. Maybe if you do enough shilling for Mr Schlomo he will finance your neo-vagina!

>> No.11018245

For all the race realism hate, kikes sure don't like being aroung niggers much, eh?

>> No.11018250

>unicorn thread dissolves into /pol/ shit
Nothing to take note of here.

>> No.11018287

>>11018179
But I plan on spending the rest of that short life helping you with your Incel problems . Before I, you know , kill myself, due to being a tranny. Tell me about the most recent time a girl was mean to you.

>> No.11018294

>>11018250
Almost as if certain arguments are only made by certain classes of "people"

>> No.11018396

>>11018250
Really gets the ol' noggin joggin.

>> No.11018401

There was very little (because there's always that one 2view from 2017) GFE in the vtubing world in the beginning. People weren't watching Kizuna AI, the four kings, or fucking Baacharu for GFE, that all came much later when the scene exploded with all kinds of different content. This by the way applies to Hololive, which was nicknamed Erolive for a reason. But for some reason the newfags such as yourself, brought in by the GFE, seem to think they have the right to dictate the rules of behaviour for every chuuba and that everyone else in the audience has to have a carbon copy of your mentally ill brain. Virtue signalling on 4chan, Jesus Christ, how about you try to think for once about whether your unmedicated view is the only one in the world.

Also, none of you faggots know jack shit about idol culture. Alternative idols have been a thing since the fucking '90s, not that you'd know, you don't even speak Japanese, and that's the scene where most of the idol chuubas draw their influence from. And yes, there is heavy dose of GFE in the traditional idol culture and yes, that extends to alternative idols and yes, that extends to chuubas. Doesn't mean unicorns aren't an invading force of newfaggotry out to ruin the hobby and should just crawl back to r/incel or wherever it is you faggots crawled out of.

>> No.11018406

>>11018239
Mr shlomo lives in Williamsburg Brooklyn, makes $9 an hour and has 8 kids. He’s not financing anything. You might have mixed him up with someone who actually has money.

>> No.11018421

>>11018245
Jews literally create ideological weapons to be used against their racial enemies. Look at Israel, they literally do not allow interfaith or homosexual marriage:

https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-could-you-marry-in-israel-1.5250455

If you believe in shit that jews tell you to believe then you've been brainfucked by them.

>> No.11018428

>>11018401
>And yes, there is heavy dose of GFE in the traditional idol culture and yes, that extends to alternative idols and yes, that extends to chuubas.
Way to concede the point.

>> No.11018430

>>11018396
When will he finally die of canceraids?

>> No.11018443

>>11018421
Are you the same guy that wants a girlfriend or was that different /pol/ friend?

>> No.11018460

>>11018120
It's nice to pretend that humans are rational creatures who practice critical thinking, refuse to take things at face value, and never incorporate their own assumptions into their mental representations of a person, but if you expect the average stream viewer to live up to those standards you're going to be sorely disappointed when many of them can't even tell if a vtuber is playing something up for entertainment and actually think they're really angry or sad even when they outright activate their own expression controls.

>> No.11018465

>>11018406
>makes $9 an hour
>somehow had 8 kids
And it still doesn't ring a bell in goy mind.

>> No.11018486

>>11018428
And yes, it's only a single strand in a rich world of actual content most of you faggots by your own admission care nothing about, so you might as well fuck off. Which is why it could be consigned to fire since all it seems to breed is disease.

>> No.11018494

>>11018287
A woman driving in front of me turned without signaling this morning

>> No.11018510

>>11018465
Are you sure you’ve never met him? He’s very easy to spot. He looks just like those funny /pol/ memes with the big nose and everything:

>> No.11018520

>>11014523
>talk about a million things from your personal life over the course of streaming literally hundreds of hours
>studiously avoid mentioning anything that even implies you have a boyfriend, let alone confirms it
It's effectively lying by omission, and it's not like they don't know what audience they're cultivating by doing so.

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>>11018406
He makes 9 dollars an hour on the books, but has 4 different income-generating properties (which he does not pay taxes on), and soaks up all the welfare he can. Meanwhile his jewish brothers who aren't designated as breeding stock run the media and every other political institution, and make AOC cry when she dares slightly challenge them over Iron Dome funding.
Jews are real tolerant, until you interfere with their plans of genociding their neighbours that is.

>> No.11018549

>>11018494
What was her ethnicity?. Go into detail. No ones judging you here

>> No.11018614

>>11018520
Well, this one is on the audience. Since she's not doing GFE, they have themselves to blame.

>> No.11018618

>>11018546
No that’s Mister Katz. shlomo is legitimately poor. I checked. Maybe they all look the same to you. I know you find that funny, but it can get you into trouble.

>> No.11018638

>>11018460
No, I expect the average to be just parrots.

>> No.11018763
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>>11018618
No, there's no community of jews in NYC that are poor but have tons of kids. Orthodox jews are only poor on the books but have tons of income, and of course aren't investigated because their cousins run the government (e.g. Cuomo got ousted for merely mentioning orthodox jews in a slightly negative light).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_and_religion

"According to the study, the median net worth of people believing in Judaism is calculated at 150,890 USD, while the median net worth of conservative Protestants (including Baptists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh-day Adventists, Christian Scientists) was US$26,200. The overall median in the dataset was US$48,200.
...
Amongst Jews, in 2016, Modern Orthodox Jews had a median household income of $158,000, while Open Orthodoxy Jews had a median household income of $185,000 (compared to the American median household income of $59,000 in 2016).[10]"

>> No.11018776

>>11018614
No it's not, see >>11017377

>> No.11018814

>>11018763
>median household income of $158,000
But I thought it was off the books?

>> No.11018832

>>11018814
The main part is off the books, true.

>> No.11018861

They have their own fucking police there and you are trying to tell me kikes are oh so poor lol kek.

>> No.11018864

>>11018832
Tell me more about the Protocols of these Elders. It’s very eye opening stuff.

>> No.11018904

>>11018814
Yes, they evade taxes on every penny they can and sometimes outright cheat the system, but since they control the media who is going to investigate them?

>> No.11018910

>>11008294
i'd like to say "meds anon" but i dont think there are any meds that can help with this case. maybe some ayahuasca would heal his soul who knows

>> No.11018913

>>11018614
People still don't really get it. If you have the agency to cut down on undesirable consequences by altering your own behavior and choices, you take it regardless of "responsibility" or "blame".
If you see a car speeding towards an intersection and you cross anyway because the light says walk, the driver is in the wrong but you're still dead. You can't say "well it's on him, I shouldn't have to delay myself because he's crazy and thinks the laws don't apply to him".
If the schizos have no impact on the vtubers through the internet or otherwise, we wouldn't be having this discussion at all.

>> No.11018920

>>11018864
Just watch news. For all the "fabrications" and "lies" you are living through the text verbatim.

>> No.11018960

>>11018920
Understood. And the ritual sacrifice of Christian infants? We’ve got to stop that as well, right?

>> No.11018996

>>11018960
Sure, please stop the ritual sacrifice of Christian infants too.

>> No.11019001

>>11018864
Who needs the protocols, when you have leftist political darlings like AOC being reduced to tears when they slightly go against jews, or the ADL effectively running social media?

>> No.11019048

>>11018996
How? Also, as a separate issue, should I bring up this Jew stuffed on a first date? I’m kind of an incel but I’m not ready to take the black pill yet. I’m just trying to meet a nice girl, but she’s never interested in the same things I am.

>> No.11019108

>>11019048
>caring what a bitch is interested in
ngmi

>> No.11019163

>>11019108
So like if she doesn’t seem into all the Jew talk, I should just find another girl? You see cuz that’s the problem. I have a tough time getting dates as it is. Or do you think I should just take her by force until she learns to appreciate my, um, based opinions. I’m scared she might call the police.

>> No.11019180

>>11019163
Be the police instead.

>> No.11019183

>>11019048
>>11019163

>going on a date
No thanks, if i have to pay i'd rather do so with a professional that will guarantee i'll end up putting my dick inside her vagina and then moving it in and out a few times

>> No.11019230

>>11019183
That goes against my traditional values and upbringing. I don’t want to judge others who have seen prostitutes- truly, only God can judge- but I believe it is a sign of degeneracy.

>> No.11019242

>>11019230
God don't real retard

>> No.11019267

>>11019048
Do jews bring up the holohoax and the need for zionism on the first date? Pretty sure they don't, so that's not a good idea. However yes your partner should be someone who loves you, herself, your mutual race, and the children that you will produce together.

>> No.11019313

>>11019267
>Pretty sure they don't
How could you possibly know that? Are you secretly a Jew? You’re kind of making me feel uncomfortable right now.

>> No.11019322

>>11018614
Unironically this.

>> No.11019338

>>11019313
>this much tranny false flagging

>> No.11019370

>>11019338
It was a serious question

>> No.11019439

>>11017377
This is the best post to have come out of this thread, I've understood as a feeling what you've written but never put it to words, so seeing it laid out clearly is great.

>> No.11019477

>>11019313
I've talked with many jews and very few will openly talk about the need for global jewish supremacy, while in actuality politically advocating for that, but if you think you know better then you do you. I and my Nazi buddies have had success simply looking for White women who aren't racially self-hating.

>> No.11019496

>>11019439
It was a C+ level incel blogpost

>> No.11019530

>>11019477
>I've talked with many jews
As a black man, I find that highly dubious.

>> No.11019543

>>11019496
And yet it's making you seethe this much

>> No.11019577

>>11019543
How much, exactly?

>> No.11019579

>>11019543
Maybe B+ level blogposts will kill trannies outright? How can we identify those?

>> No.11019608

>>11019496
I don't think you know what those words even mean

>> No.11019618

>>11019579
I thought they kill themselves.

>> No.11019648

>>11019577
Enough to make a post to tell everybody how little you care about it

>> No.11019653

>>11019608
And yet it’s making you seethe this much.

>> No.11019654

>>11019618
Expedite the process then?

>> No.11019688

>>11019530
Okay, and? You're wrong. I've moved and lived in neighbourhoods with tons of blacks, jews, and asians.
Racism/racial animosity comes from living around other races, it's why southerners/Whites who live around blacks don't like them, while Minnesotans and the like were fawning over them.

>> No.11019703

>>11019579
>How can we identify those?
They start with "you will never be a woman"

>> No.11019708

>>11019648
I didn’t even say that.

>> No.11019745

>>11019703
Does it make me seethe when you say that?

>> No.11019768

>>11019708
Sure, that's why it's already at least the second post you make about it

>> No.11019778

>>11019745
We'll never know, you kill yourself too quickly.

>> No.11019807

>>11019768
Could there be any other possible reason why I’m talking to you?

>> No.11019824

>>11019745
It makes me gleeful with the knowledge that i'm adding to the already miserable life of a tranny

>> No.11019836

Now kiss

>> No.11019869

>>11019807
None other than coping

>> No.11019876

>>11019824
You don’t sound that gleeful.

>> No.11019920

>>11019530
>Mike Enoch, perhaps the most important anti-semite in America, was married to a jew and lived most of his life in NYC and around jews
How little do you know chocoball

>> No.11019949

>>11019876
Wishful thinking

>> No.11019969

>>11019869
How did you get so good at identifying the vast numbers of trannies who post on 4chan? How can I learn to spot them as well? Do they make fun of incels, or are there other things they say as well?

>> No.11020005

>>11019920
Literally PEINOVICHSTEIN.
God, I laughed so hard that day.

>> No.11020034

>>11019969
Just look in a mirror

>> No.11020037

Tranny is legit assblasted, good.

>> No.11020042

>>11019949
Well, at least you’re honest. But wishing you were gleeful isn’t the same as being gleeful. Is it the oppression by the powerful Jews that put you in such a dark mood?

>> No.11020082

>>11020034
Duh! I mean besides me! There are huge numbers of trannies on this site. How can we identify more?

>> No.11020090

>>11020042
>No u
Lol

>> No.11020132

as an unicorn I only see a problem if a girl who does GFE lies about not being in a relationship. That is just malicious and straight up evil. But I don't see a problem if a girl who hates unicorns btfos them by clearly stating what kind of relationship she expects with the fans.
in fact unicorns are incredibly easy to scare off, just look at Towa. I don't really see a problem if people would just be honest.

>> No.11020150

>>11019496
It's easy to think of more amusing but audacious examples that don't have anything to do with relationships, you know, but fall into the same situation. Imagine if a vtuber had a black avatar for example, and talked pretty much normally, but mixed in some slang from time to time, talked about soul food and whatnot in a general knowledge sort of manner. Whenever they received SCs praising them for black representation they just said something non-committal like "thanks for the nice message" or "it doesn't matter what color we all are".
Then one day they get doxxed and it turns out they're white or asian.
I guarantee you the meltdown will probably be even more insane and protracted, because it arises from fundamentally the same feeling of being deceived - even though the roommate never disclosed any sort of ethnicity in the first place. People would just assume.

>> No.11020212

>>11020150
So Rachel Dolezal experience, or whatever her name was? I'd watch the meltdown simply for the kino.

>> No.11020283

What the actual fuck is going on in this thread

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