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Tell me why I should hate Nijisanji.

>> No.10957058

you shouldn't.

>> No.10957066

You want to fit in here right?

>> No.10957092

>>10957047
>tell me how I should think

>> No.10957110
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>>10957047
Sasaki raped and murdered Luna's family which is why she left for Hololive

>> No.10957115

>>10957047
Dis nigga cant form his own opinions

>> No.10957157

They're not Hololive owned by Cover corporations.

>> No.10957184

>>10957047
They have ties with the CCP.

>> No.10957355

>>10957184
So does Ina.

>> No.10957637

>>10957047
NijiJP? Not much reasons.
NijiEN? Because they're honestly just Holo Discount and made no effort creating and growing their own audience

>> No.10957787
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>>10957047
They popularized low effort brain filler content, now "vtubing" is just watching someone else play a game while making noises every now and then for a few hours.
There is barely anyone trying something creative that would require work. At least they got Lee Roha on NijiKR who does something a bit original but this is one in a thousand.

>> No.10957851

>>10957787
How to admit you don't watch Nijisanji without actually saying it.

>> No.10957899

>>10957047
for the same reason you should hate vshitjo.

>> No.10957957

>>10957899
Which is?

>> No.10958000

>>10957851
How do you think I found Roha if I don't watch them? No one really care about her here. Some try original content, but it's still once in a blue moon, like 80% content is literally just playing game and the rest doing songs. Even the leading one Kuzuha never try anything outside that low effort content.
Granted it works, so I can't blame them, but I still dislike Nijisanji for pushing that model.

>> No.10958637

>>10957047
they killed aloe

>> No.10958683

>>10958637
Aloe's still kicking it, and she just got formally diagnosed with autism.

>> No.10959216

>>10957110
based sasa

>> No.10959275

>>10957047
They're not really worth hating.
Their fans are annoying as fuck though.

>> No.10959357

>>10957047
>>10957066
This, this is your chance to not be an outsider OP.

>> No.10959662

>>10957092
What a sheep. He need a shephard dog telling him where to stand

>> No.10959845

>>10958000
Roha has not done a meme piano stream in forever you gay ass clipwatcher she streams normally like the rest of KR branch aside from some VR gimmicks. She's fucking playing ARK.

>> No.10959951

there isn't really any reasons especially since majority of the board dont know shit about them

>> No.10960102
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>>10959845
What? She's taken a break for her YouTube this month so obviously the last Piano streams date a bit.
I wish she did more but it's usually twice a month, which I understand given she tries to learn new pieces for every stream, and they often come close to 3h.
Are there even clips of her? Literally never got one recommended.

>> No.10961998

Hating Niji is like hating the rival highschool track team when you're in collage. Waste of time.

>> No.10962081

>>10960102
Aside from Bora and Yuya getting JP clips she was the only one getting put in EN compilations for her Giorno theme meme until NiiiEN came around and people remembered KR branch existed.

>> No.10962171

Nijisanji is fine. Their fans however are absolute niggers.

>> No.10962231

>>10960102
she is playing mfing LoL on her twitch channel, you never watched her live

>> No.10962287

>>10962171
This but with holobronies

>> No.10962326

>>10962171
I feel the same way about Hololive.

>> No.10962375

>>10957957
Fairly sure that was the joke.

>> No.10962415

I think it's funny that people have this image of Nijisanji fans when there are collectively like 50 on this board. Most of the arguing happens between EN fags, and all of those mostly watch Hololive or Vshoujo not Nijisanji. Otherwise there would surely be generals for sanbaka or whoever

>> No.10962493

>>10962415
If there were enough Nijisanji fans the JKgumi general wouldn't die out and never be revived. Unironically more people watch NijisanjiJP in the FPS VSpo thread. And the JP male thread, I guess.
And those generals still are a grain of sand compared to NijiEN general.

>> No.10962674

>>10957047
they suck

>> No.10962727

>>10962231
I specifically said "form her youtube" exaclty because I know she's on Twitch, holy shit. I don't like gaming content, so yes I only watch zatsu and piano from her, and there is nothing wrong with that.

>> No.10962775

>>10962415
Well it used to be all in one thread on jp, now it's pretty spread out everywhere

>> No.10962815

>>10962727
I swear what do people have to do to prove they watched a vtuber. Next thing they'll tell you how to properly watch a channel or else you don't qualify.

>> No.10962880

>>10962775
/jp/ thread is a fucking ghost town
>>10962727
>no one does anything creative it's just streaming games!
>gives example of a girl who just streams games and has 1 gimmick

>> No.10963058

>>10957787
I'm not gonna dispute your point because if that's how you see it then so be it, but if you don't like what Vtubing has become then why are you even on this board? Not even asking aggressively, it's just that almost all discussion here is about the kind of Vtubing you dislike.
>>10962493
Yeah it's unfortunate I liked JKgumi thread. The fact that there can be generals for Akirose+Mel+Choco, Luna, Matuli or Towa but not JKgumi just goes to show how small the Nijisanji fanbase is on here

>> No.10963212

>>10962880
I'll take that one "gimmick" any day. There are so many vtubers, no need to watch anything outside of what you enjoy in someone's content.
Yes it's not common, that's what I deplore, I'll take what I can when I find it.

>>10963058
I think vtubing still have lot of unexplored potential, it can still be something else and there are many paths to explore. But like in many areas taking risks is high effort low reward 99% of the time.
Streaming in itself isn't doomed to be just games, there is more to it.
I note the concepts I find interesting in a list, just uploaded it here https://pastebin.com/aVNbqNzb those have yet to be done as vtubing of course

>> No.10963382

>>10963212
>TTRPG
Plenty of JP vtubers do this. However it's usually on the hosts channel so you need to follow their Twitter to be notified.
>building shit
Aizono does gunpla semi often
>drawing
Since Uiha stopped streaming regularly we lost another artist but two of the ENs have done art streams, Rai of ID does them, Kirame does some, Kyoko does some.
>irl shit
Stop watching vtubers and expecting this. Noraneko streaming a guy she hired to walk around India is as close as you'll get to live exploration.

>> No.10963633

>>10963212
Also, there is more than 1 instrument player. Genzuki, Kaida, and Riksa have stresmed music making and instrument playing. There's tons of singers, therefore a lot of concerts. There's tons of skits, in 3D even, Ryushen'a afterschool sabotage, Nijiguys lube sliding tournament, Nijigirls wrestling, etc. There's a voice acting club. There's irl stuff like recently Nagao and Oliver re-assembled a keyboard from memory live on stream. There's been cooking streams and cooking competitions. Melissa streams cooking a lot, actually. There's Mashiro with his listener submitted irl spooky photos content. There's Layla with her Indonesian history streams. I'm missing more because I don't even watch all of Nijisanji.

>> No.10963781

>>10957047
they push the sodomite agenda

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>>10963382
"have yet to be done" was dumb phrasing from me I meant it for the ones tied to IRL that are hard to adapt
Granted mixed reality is a thing some vtubers try, just rarely, sees webm-related for a simple but interesting setup
Virtual avatars could also have parts that change with sound or overall color of the stream or chat inputs

>>10963633
For the rest yes there are indeed some who try, it's still incredibly rare (and often in one language) and thus there is little choice. Same with more educational content, which often works more as scripted than streams. Not saying it doesn't exist, it's simply a very small and often unknown part of the medium, I feel so many just go with gaming cause that's the easiest but don't really add anything and more casual viewers are just content with having a background voice and stop there.

>> No.10964404

>>10963382
>>10963633
Well at last some interesting vtuber suggestions I rarely ever see, good thing I checked this thread.

>> No.10964422

>>10963994
99.99999% of vtubers rely on gaming/zatsudan content with unique streams sprinkled amongst their VODs, to say Roha is one in a thousand just made no sense to me considering there's people in her own company and even branch who do less gaming content than her. I am sure your webm related is a gane/zatsu streamer too. If she mainly does cooking then great, she's the true one in a thousand.
>Virtual avatars could also have parts that change with sound or overall color of the stream or chat inputs
This wouldn't bring anything new to vtubing, it's distracting. If you want to see colors flash whenever someone members or superchats watch Kanae, I guess.

>> No.10966606

>>10957047
Nobuhime, explains why Niji is trash on stream.
https://youtu.be/i0JkEHQYoe8

>> No.10967912

>>10966606
she didn't even say anything bad about Nijisanji, she even said she has teetee with gibbers

>> No.10968086

>>10957047
Hate the who what now? neverheardofem

>> No.10968162

>>10962287
faggot nijibrony no one likes you or your bitch whore chuubas

>> No.10968275

>>10968162
case in point

>> No.10968596

>>10957355
Why do you nijiniggers always make up obvious lies?

>> No.10978186

>>10957047
To be a tribalfag duh. Unless you don't want to be.

>> No.10978500

>>10957047
If you're not into idolfaggotry why even watch vtubers?. Like what are you getting that isn't better served by normal streamers outside of that?

>> No.10978618

>>10978500
People playing anime characters with exaggerated personalities and cute designs.

>> No.10978697

>>10978618
>People playing anime characters
I thought nijis and vshoujos acted like "real girls" which was their appeal?

>> No.10978787

>>10978697
You're making 2 mistakes here. 1 would be assuming Nijisanji and Vshojo make the same kind of content, and 2 would be assuming every Nijisanji member acts the same. There are a lot of Niji members that are very dedicated to their keyfabe. Debidebi, Rosemi and Mayuzumi to name a few.

>> No.10978790

>>10978500
Because idolfaggotry is just one of the niche not the whole vtuber itself. Holy shit, Hololive really is the cancer that killing the vtubers. They warped the normalfag perception on what vtuber is.

>> No.10978847

No reason to. I think they're fine. Some of their fans are awful and I'd prefer if they didn't come here, they're always so hostile and looking for fights.

>> No.10978915

>>10957047
You shouldn't. Just pretend to so that you can mock it and it's fanbase for easy (you)'s

>> No.10978994

>>10978500
The only actual idol vtuber I like is Uiha and she's in Nijisanji.

>> No.10979776

>>10957787
>vtuber drawn by tomari
sold, what's her name? what does she do?

>> No.10980012

>>10978847
So cancerous Holobronies who spreading lie and slander on other vtubers including their own are not awful? There are retards in twitter who hate Sasaki because they believe in bully meme here.

>> No.10980084

>>10957110
This is a cursed image

>> No.10980234

>>10978790
Normalfags dropped vtubers months ago, what do you think is causing the incline?

>> No.10980329

>>10980012
Hey, I never said those sort of holofans weren't awful. I am just saying my complaint with Nijisanji is a portion of their fanbase is awful. The ones that jumped down your throat for anything, are extremely hostile, extremely confrontational, and just try their best to make people who don't care about Nijisanji have a bad time. All they do is insult and make grand claims about liver I don't care about. I can't tell if they're trying to get me to watch Nijisanji or are just bored morons. I'm not calling every nijifan one of these people but you know who they are.

I'm naming them. It's SEAniggers and spics, on both sides.

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>>10980234
What incline?

>> No.10980830

>>10957047
Has this website really fallen this far? I thought if there was one thing faggots on /here/ wouldn't need to be spoonfed it would be reasons to hate a thing.

>> No.10980987

>>10980234
Vtubers have been steadily declining since the 2020 hype was done. We might get a new era next year or the year after that. Kizuna and the 4-kings lasted around 2 years right?

>> No.10981561

>>10980329
Are we even live in the same world? Because Nijifags never did that. In fact, it was Holobronies who did all those shit to even their own holos. They just keep in their own general and affliated thread. And only appear when some cancerous antis trying to spread harmful slanders. Like I said, peoples actually believe in those bait, so they have no choice to respond or normalfag will spread it out in twitter. Antis even trying to start shit in my VSPO thread when Selen participated in Apex tourney. Luckily, they all actually watched the stream and ignored the bait. Worst thing a Nijifags can do is call Cover incompentent with shit tech and management (and it's true). Meanwhile, Holobronies literally spreading lies and slanders and making shitty narrative that harm other reputations. Ai was killed because of that. Sasaki was hated because of that. Roa was missing because of that.

>> No.10982041

>>10981561
>Because Nijifags never did that.
But they do. I mean reread your posts and tell me that isn't very hostile and confrontational. This is the shit you guys always do, try to make people feel bad for liking what they like and line everything with insults. I don't think the majority of Nijifags are like the people I described but there's enough to make me not even entertain the idea of paying attention to Nijisanji. I don't know how holofans behave to you because I don't post in your threads and I certainly don't read them. I'm just saying the Nijifags I do encounter pick fights.

>> No.10984786

>>10982041
>Holobronies spreading bullshit
>surprised while Nijisfag got mad on them.
As expected from fanbase who thought Aloe/Dedechi did nothing wrong.

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Don't. Watch Rosemi. Now.

>> No.10994837

Because back before the big vtuber thread in /jp/ was split between Hololive and nijisanji, the Nijifags were the absolute niggers of the thread. Even after the split their threads were the ghetto of /jp/. The animosity we see today is just a continuation of this conflict, and the board culture has (rightly) developed into shitting on nijifags

>> No.10996816
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>>10957047
You love Nijisanji.

>> No.10997138

>>10994837
You weren't even there.

>> No.10997700

>>10982041
>wah you make me feel bad
Twitter fag.

>> No.10997770

>>10963994
>Covering the glass lid with aluminum foil because of the reflection.
I get why they do it, but god damn does it look so scuffed.

>> No.10997855

Wasn't there a NijiEN girl making vore comments on Twitter? And another one that spent like ten fifteen whole ass minutes talking about her bowel movements on stream? Someone find the clip. Selen Tatsuki was there too.

>> No.11001008

>>10994837
Do we even live in the same world? Because last time I checked, it was Holobronies newfag who shit up /jp/ and /vyt/ with dumb question and shitpost and got told to fuck off and lurk more. Meanwhile Nijifags never leave their /niji/ thread. Also reminder that Hololive have been kicked out from youtuber board in 3 different sites. That tell you who is the real cancer here.

>> No.11001089

>>11001008
>3 different sites
And those sites would be?

>> No.11008255

>>10958683
Why no one talk about her? Holobronies should be happy to talk about her

>> No.11008962

>>10980329
Wtf? Major hostiles fan here is holobronies, all nijisanji thread get fuck by them all the time and here you are saying nijifag is the hostiles one when they most of the time stay on their own thread

>> No.11009882

I know people meme it, but Nijisanji really does live rent free in the heads of Holobronies on this board. At least enough for them to constantly shit up the main Nijisanji thread and shitpost about them all the time in the catalogue. If you don't care about something, you just don't talk about it. Same thing applies to the Vshojo hate.

>> No.11009996

I think you are really retarded if you have any loyalty to any company. You should watch who you like from any company

>> No.11011414

>>11008962
How the fuck should I know that? I don't post or lurk in threads that aren't hololive for the most part. I'm just saying a lot of the time when I encounter a nijifag they want to go to war about shit I never said about people I can't control.

>> No.11011581

>>10957787

>play a game while making noises every now and then for a few hours.

You just described Gura, one of the most popular Vtubers ever.

>> No.11011656

>>11011414
>I never step aside from my bubbles and I know nothing about Nijisanji but I know they are hostile.
>let me wrote a long ass paragraph how they are hostile according to my schizo mind. >>10980329
>wait why nijifags hate me? Noooooo nijinigger is bully.
Chat shit get banged.

>> No.11012116

>>11011656
There is nothing wrong with me not knowing about nijisanji since I don't invade their threads, talk about their company, don't spread rumors, and never discuss their talent. The first thing I said is I do not hate Nijisanji. I do know that the only time I ever have to deal with Nijifans they're looking for arguments, I'm just assuming that's a minority and most of them just stay in threads they like. I mean each post in this thread that has been a reply to me has been mostly aggressive and confrontational about shit I don't care about. I mean why jump on someone who says they don't hate Nijisanji when there are plenty of people who do for no good reason?

>> No.11012700

>>11012116
Because you are literally make a post how nijifags are hostile while conveniently ignore Holobronies who started shit up in the first place. Nijinigger are militant but not without reason. Maybe if your kind didn't shit up /vt/ making slander and narrative that harm their reputation, they would have shut up and stay in their thread. But your kind don't looking at current state of this board. Some EOP who know nothing about Nijisanji actually hate Sasaki Saku because of narrative made by Holobronies. And you expect them to stay silent?

>> No.11013616

>>11012700
I'm just saying why I don't like some of their fans because they are so disagreeable, I'm not passing judgement on whether or not they're justified. This thread was about why someone should hate Nijisanji. I don't see any reason why people should but I still find a few of their fans very unpleasant.

>> No.11015814

>>11013616
As has been said here already, if a group of fans act hostile towards another group, and then that other group acts hostile back, then no shit everyone will find everyone unpleasant. Making a thread about the sky being blue isn't going to fix it.

>> No.11018717

There's literal faggots in the group

>> No.11018787

>>11018717
There also are in Holopro, this is not a new thing dude

>> No.11019185

>>11012116
and yet you accusing nijifan to be the hostile one when holobronies is the one ruining the majority of niji discussion thread, damn, the majority of us stay on nijiEn thread while need to see a catalog full of shit/bait post of our own liver

>> No.11019536

>>11012116
The only time I have to deal with Holofans is when they're spreading lies about JP and EN that ends up making its way onto Twitter where more fans see it and notice how trashy Holofans are. Or when they're shitting up the catalog with >Why is Nijisanji like this? Or when they enter the general and shit it up meanwhile in /hlgg/ if you even mention Nijisanji news you get instantly deleted and warned.

>> No.11020506

Selen is such a retarded nigger

>> No.11024807

>>10957047
Because they have less number so you will instantly lose your argument when it come to tribalism
The weak should fear the strong

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