/#/ - numbers thread

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ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

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Yesterday's views

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>>10937730
and SCs

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>>10937754
who's the blonde fucker, and what did he do?

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>>10937791
Birthday, debutmates with Kenmochi

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>>10937791
I forgot to say his name is Fushimi Gaku

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>>10937809
>>10937831
oh makes sense then, thanks.

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So, the whole ad revenues thing with CCV and premium wasn't a meme and that Gura or other members is earning a hefty amount of cash from VODSs alone?

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>>>/g/83694305
>>>/g/83694424

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>>10937887
kek, just from watchalongs. Get on to twitch, Gura and collab with $113k a month sykkuno.

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>>10937867
Still a meme considering we are just guesstimating. SCs is king because we actual have the numbers

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>>10937934
Well, the fact that it's only those two of all the Holomem mean that anyone that incidentally has Amazon Prime and isn't watching anyone on Twitch means they get to throw that for free at Pekora/Miko. More Holomem on Twitch would dilute that.

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Anons, I've been working as a software engineer for about 3 months now after graduating from a degree. Is it too late to change professions now and become a vtuber who makes Hologames on stream? I can sing too.

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>>10938048
I don't understand why everyone is shitting their pants over Hololive earnings NOW when Twitch earnings got leaked. Also no you are not a cute Japanese girl you are ngmi.

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>>10938048
Sure, go for it and blog about your results here.

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>>10938048
Lumi from CyberLive has a science degree. Check /asp/ for tips.

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>Vods earning

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>>10938175
when is this?

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>>10938175
Thats superchat + ads + membership.

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* Hololive schedule for the next few hours *
All of them may break 10k except Risu and Luna. Even Haachama, which announced the stream on Twitter with enough leeway

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>>10938175
>>10938238
it was at the height of amongus.
Rea doesn't care about VODs at all since she hides them at the bottom of the main page

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>>10938403
>Noel with the card opening
lowballing it i'm gonna predict 16k.

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>>10938441
She follows the Twitch model of clipping key moments out of VODs and short vids, and that works. The reason Hololive doesn't is mostly because the community does it for them. Sure, you don't get the views and revenue, but you also hack the Yt algo by having so many different channels with clips + you don't have to pay people to edit the videos for you. It's a tradeoff that this far, Cover seems content to stand.

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From the twitch leak, earnings June 2019, and then August 2019 through Sept 2021. July 2019 is missing from the leak
ironmouse $668920.56
veibae $490622.56
nyanners $434790.17
projektmelody $355827.18
Silvervale $328656.14
This doesn't count donations

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>>10938647
I don't doubt Ironmouse's health issues are partially responsible for her being so ahead in earnings.

Remember how 2 days ago, Rushia made $10k off of a regular minecraft stream?
https://playboard.co/en/video/VMhsJCB0qTo

That was the stream where she said she has some health issues and might die and she loves her fandeads...etc.
Her gachis predictably went nuts with SC.

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>>10938647
mori earns $700000 after youtube cut from only a year, not counting membership, ads, merch, sponsorships and music sales/streams. sasuga MONEY MORI

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>>10938647
Jp

>Miko 557359020 117921.23

>Hal 467110256 35357.03

>pekora 664278586 25045.28

Hal stream every day, miko watchalong every weekend, pekora streamed 4 or 3 times only.

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>>10937666
Why the fuck are there two threads?

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>>10938160
not just that shes either doing masters or phd right now based on how much "lab work" she gets stuck in

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Miko and Pekora barely have content on Twitch and they still make nearly half as much as vshitjo does streaming there multiple times a week.

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>>10939038
Oh good grief not again.
Well, one of them will end up with more activity and the other one will just have to die an ignoble death.

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>>10939072
How do they make money on twitch?

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>>10938048
You will probably end up being a 2view, so only do that if you want /vt/ to laugh at you for ditching a future 8-12k a month job

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>>10939306
Bits, partnerships, and ads

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>>10939072
They were smart to recognize all the free amazon prime money they could get for essentially no effort. It's funny how none of the ENs did this despite being far more familiar with the Western streaming market.

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>>10939324
subs too

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>>10939324
>Bits
What’s that?

>>10939330
>free amazon prime money they could get for essentially no effort
How does that work? They get a cut for users in the watchalong using Amazon Prime?

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>>10939379
>Bits
The twitch equivalent of superchats

>How does that work? They get a cut for users in the watchalong using Amazon Prime?
Getting amazon prime gives you one free sub on twitch which you can give to anyone. Youtube should do something similar with youtube premium , which they are hopefully working on

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>>10939319
>ditching a future 8-12k a month job
I still don’t get why people would do that. To be a 2 views surely doesn’t look like something that takes lots of effort to do as an activity on the side
>set up a STRICT schedule for streaming (2 times a week, 3 times a week, 7 times a week, whatever you’re comfortable with)
>prepare your streams at least one week in advance: choice of game, zatsu topic, karaoke playlist, whatever
>pick a slot and stick with it and arrange your professional life around it

If people can play World of Warcraft (or whatever “crack of the day” game is nowadays) for 40 hours a week while holding a day job people can stream too if they’re organized enough

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>>10939330
I get the sense that 25k is basically nothing to Myth. 100k maybe not but that would require more than 0 effort. They can’t be bothered to read superchats half the time setting up Twitch streams is way beyond that.

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>>10939517
Agree with this. Ame could do twitch watchalongs but she didn't. You can't tell me it didn't cross her mind, she has bubb4t ffs.

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>>10937754
When i see fifteen on the list i thought it was Iofi turns out it's another fifteen..

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>>10939606
Imagine trying to avoid the flood of VshojoxVtubers unity fans and OTV fans for a year only to get raided by these people.

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>>10939606
This board is blinded by superchats because it’s the one thing we have hard numbers on even though literally every source hammers merch, members, premium, and ads as major revenue sources, roughly in that order. It’s borderline embarrassing how hard creatives shill merch, even very high profile ones, because the cuts are so much better. If numbers rabbit made 25k for three low effort streams and still can’t be arsed to utilize the platform, presumably there’s a reason.

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>>10937730
Welp friend accessories will overlap with pekora Minecraft and suisei, No #1 for today still up to grab!
(Cmon kuzuha)

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>>10939915
If Kuzuha has a bad day of scrims again like yesterday, he might straight up lose to Pekora Minecraft or Noel opening card packs.

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>>10939954
While other holomem reveal their hands for card opening stream, i hope Noel one up them by showing her tits

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Suisei making it into Billioard JP top Hot Albums
https://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=hot_albums&year=2021&month=10&day=11

I can FEEL the heat of the glowing happiness emanating from Suisei all the way from across the ocean.

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>NijiEN 3 already bombing in engagment levels

When will Niji get a W?

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>>10940024
i love her so much it hurts. i'm really fucking happy that she's fulfilling her dreams one by one.

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EN Night surely was competitive today.
And yet the most impressive result in this screenshot was
>Risu
She gets better numbers just talking than playing games. She surely needs to find her footing because she's all over the place

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>>10940126
That's cause she did it in the middle of the day when no one else is streaming. she'd get similar numbers for her games too if she didn't keep going head to head with big holoJPs

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>>10940126
Tree rrat doesn't want to be saved, you're better off grooming a 2view. For real though, Risu squandering her potential really hurts to see.

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>>10940091
It's obvious. It's Niji

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>>10940024

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>>10940126
>the most impressive result
>1k

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>>10940211
Why are Joefags, Elufags, Akinafags, Warabedafags, Ryushenfags, and Masarufags like this?

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>>10940091
Bombing in engagement level? What happened?

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>>10940242
Maybe anon is implying that they're not getting as much engagement as new Holo EN gen got?

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>>10940242
>>10940262
It means they're all Chinese.

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>>10940211
Niji success doesn't take away from Suisei success and vice versa.
Quite the contrary, each vtuber that blazes this trail lifts the tide to rise them all.

I assume you picked an album at random, and that May 2020 is not the last time it happened. For vtuber time that's like 100 years ago

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>>10940211
That first raindrops album charted well but the number of sales is similar with their later releases, which didn't chart as well.

Goes to show how much luck is involved with getting #1 since it depends on your competition that week.

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>>10940285
Nah I've picked the debut album. Because Suisei's is also a debut one.

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>>10940306
I am not well versed in album sales. Is being a debut album a buff or a debuff?

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>>10940295
>which didn't chart as well
Lol it's charted at the same position as Suisei this week. Mind you it's their third album so it is very good (compared to Deron whose debut single sold 6321 copies while the newest got only 1544)

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>>10940340
Charting #4 is not as good as charting #1 tho?
I'm saying chart position depends a lot on your competition that week.
There was no way Suisei was beating Snow man. She could've sold 50k albums and still be #2 this week.

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>>10940332
Here's how the sales of Fuji Aoi, the vsinger, have aged with time. Obviously the first release from a new artist gets more hype then the following ones since people are curious what they sound like. But whether they're be able to keep them up or not is another story.

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>>10940340
To be fair Suisei’s sales are really impressive for just one person. I wonder if Nijisanji would be able to reach the same results with any member.

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so it appears playboard stops counting the moment views fall a certain threshold

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>>10940491
It's the opposite for them. While Bouquet that had a number of artist is already losing to Still Still Stellar Prismatic Colors and Smash the Paint are still the best selling vtuber albums (which is ironic considering that Hololive is supposed to have more hako oshi)

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>>10940537
Maybe because Hololive better singers didn't participate in that album.

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>>10940527

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This did not grow as fast as the recent animations did but it is still impressive that that silly dancing duck animation ended up blowing up out of proportion way away from the usual weeb adjacent audience.

Of course being a "titty pianist" helps but this is her most viewed video in the past 4 months already, and one of the most viewed this year.

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>>10940537
Do they count overseas sales?

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>>10940537
If you look at the roster and song division of Bouquet, it was kinda meme.
Even the most popular participants like Marine, Pekora, and Aqua were barely in any songs.

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>>10940622
No. Though you can make it count if you buy through a proxy.

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>>10940527
Playboard sometimes stops counting daily views and consolidates them into a weekly bar.
Regardless, Contrail has been getting <20k daily for the past 3 days so it doesn't seem like it'll reach 1 mil any time soon. Maybe there will be a resurgence after his Birthday event in Nov.
Kinda surprised honestly considering how well it charted on the first 2 days. The initial hype was quite real.

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>>10940724
Happened with the umisea song too. The hype can only carry it at the beginning, but if the song is bad it will die out pretty quickly.

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>>10940600
Went to check the video again, and she posted a cover of violet on her channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEQMPmjZU88

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>>10940821
Mori gets so many views on RIP and Her Your Mori MVs even months later. A decent MV seems to make a huge difference though. Wonder how much a Palette/tgrials/eoal/red mv with high quality illustrations but minimal animation actually costs? Mori can do some herself and seems to find no names with talent to work on her stuff but the art alone is probably five figures. 5M extra views is very roughly 10k in revenue so maybe worth it for artists on her level?

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If i was one of the Higher ups in Cover, i would make a semi-branch of Hololive that only streams on Twitch, if i were only allowed to make 3 members each generation, i'd put 2 females, 1 male. Maybe 2 males and 1 female IF, the male gets positive feedback. Each one of the members must have Twitch knowledge, culture or whatever you call it. Do mind that they're Twitch streamers, and a semi-branch, which means, I am trying to find another different market. The main branch will still be on Youtube, and the semi-branch is on Twitch. We might get the people who wasn't interested in Youtube but Twitch.

What do you guys think of the Idea?

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>>10940973
Pretty worth. The money from ad views pays for the MV itself, but the exposure generated is worth a lot more than putting ads from your videos.

This is a music video from a female niji group,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NboixpOOXsk

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>>10941025
Stupid.

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>>10941025
No males. All girls group. Target GFE, Gaming and Singing girls. Steal some of VShojo's viewers. Have Myth collab with OTV, in turn, they'll shill the branch with raids. Invite Holos for collabs on twitch. Most important thing of all, unfiltered content, which means they don't fear getting copyright striked and react videos with other EN members would be the best vtuber content.

Next step, be the top vtubers on twitch

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>>10941025
Sounds like a whole host of problems for minimal gain. Still hampered by permissions since JP corpo, have to deal with raids and other big-yabpotential nonsense, and for what, so you can compete on Vshojo'a home turf? There's also the issue of isolating a semi branch like that in that they may end up segregated from the rest of holopro and then you cause more internal issues.
No, not worth the risk, not now.

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>>10941048
58k in a day for a K/DA style MV. How good is it? I know that Rion and Furen are pretty popular Niji female.

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>>10941123
I thought Twitch is more restrictive with copyright?

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>>10941025
>i'd put 2 females, 1 male
I fail to see how that would help at all, considering the current selling point and pretty much the differential from Cover to their competition is that Hololive is
>an all female vtuber group
Even after Holostars got rolled into Hololive Productions they made it a point to call Holostars
>an all male vtuber group

That seems to work for Hololive as a market differential, why would they ever abandon it to enter a market clearly dominated by their competition?

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>>10941048
>58k
I’m sad. Meanwhile… https://youtu.be/SDb7PGB5kc4
And it took 6 days to reached 1m

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>>10940631
Cover basically sold you the same songs multiple times.
They sold each individually the week they released it.
Live concert ticket, album drop and Blu-ray drop.
Also why is everyone surprised about how much money twitch streamers make, I thought this shit was common knowledge.

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>>10941048
Another reminder that 250-300k for the first day of a song release, especially an original, is already a crazy good number.

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>>10941123
>unfiltered content
kek, the only difference between Youtube and Twitch with regards to content (be it copyright or "whatever the censors deem unworthy") is that

>Youtube is fully automated and at the discretion of an inscrutable AI bot
>Twitch if fully manual and at the discretion of an inscrutable cabal of moderators

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>>10941025
Hiring more UK/EU EN streamers would be less of a risk

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>>10941212
Meme cover of a meme song featuring a meme recreation of the original MV.
It's actually one of the more impressive pieces of content Anycolor has produced.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_89otvkb1EA

>Already back in 6th place, barely ahead of Unison
Has Reflect lost its legs? I was honestly expecting it to stream ahead and become the most popular Hololive original song, but it just really doesn't seem like it.

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>>10941219
I wasn't particularly surprised by the numbers, but then again I've already heard the amounts some of the top dogs make and you can easily do some napkin math for sub counts that are public.
Do consider though, that many on this board are not so numerically inclined or just ignore it until it's expliclty states how much each person is making.

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>>10941048
>>10941139
Not good at all. To be honest there's little to no hype about their group since they were just hurriedly debuted to fill the hole that was created by petit fleurs dissolution.

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>>10941251
also people don't watch VOD in Twitch so don't expect big VOD boost for EN

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>>10941262
Anon, it has no MV, and higher quality versions exist on other platforms.
The fact that it hit 10m at the pace it did off of that is pretty good.

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>>10941260
There's this too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FKRL-t8aM8

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>>10941212
What the fuck going on with Joe's 3D kek.
>>10941219
People already shitposting on how much Vshojo made compared to Hololive with """cover cut""" and how it's better for Hololive to move to Twitch.
>>10941267
Gibara :(

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Not sure if this is true or not, I just seen some nip say it.
https://kworb.net/aww/
TPts - 1.0 = 10k downloads.
Suisei has 0.042 TPts = 42k downloads.
Apple Music = 0.014 = 14k downloads.

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>>10941369
They're not wrong, going indie and dumping Cover will make any holo a lot more money, just look at how Coco's now enjoying the same amount of SCs without having to give Cover a single cent. She'll make even more if she moved to Twitch.

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STACKED primetime.

>Pekocraft
>Suisei singing
>Sora singing
And Fubuki new hair or something

What's Sora even thinking, scheduling a singing stream head to head with Suisei? Should have moved it one our earlier daisenpai!
All of them over Fubuki new outfit accessories too, seems like each girl only get one slot reservation a week, or something

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>>10941369
Mind you, twitch streamers make this much when the default rate is Twitch getting 90% of the ad revenue without a special deal.
Youtubers generally get 70% of ad revenue iirc.

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>>10941412
>going indie and dumping Cover will make any holo a lot more money
I doubt "any" holo. Coco was the most superchatted streamer of the world, she surely is not "any holo".

I can see Calli being ahead with her other persona, but I can see Ame going back to be a two views making scraps specially because neither of them would get to keep their models.

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Whats with the twitch shills here? Youtubers earn shitton too >>10938175

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>>10941398
>1.0 = 10k downloads
>0.042 TPts = 42k downloads
Pretty sure that will make 4.2k downloads

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>>10941412
There are another source of revenue that we don't have the number, like ads revenue, vod revenue, Youtube premium, membership, merch, and sponsorship and i believe that all of those made them much more money than SC. Coco is a special case that I doubt you can apply to another holo.

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>>10941491
do you think an album is going to #2 on Itunes world wide with 4.2k downloads?

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>>10941398

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>>10941412
Not everyone who leaves will be able o do so with the amount of goodwill Coco did. Much like Gura's subgrowth is ab anomoly, Coco's sendoff is thus far something no other graduating vtuber has managed, and also retaining many of her gachikoi.
To say that any Holo would be able to quit and retain that level of SC is a bit much.
>>10941414
That, or Fubuki asked that everyone treat it as a normal stream since she already had a slot to herself yesterday z and this is just a hair thing.

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>>10941412
>just look at how Coco's now enjoying the same amount of SCs without having to give Cover a single cent

Coro October 2020: $105,866
Coco November 2020: $151,234
Coco December 2020: $162,747
Coco January 2021: $140,041
Kson August 2021: $113,215
Kson September 2021: $82,394

Cover cut would have to be huge for your assertion to be true. Let's see how October 2021 goes but I think she's at best,
>assuming a massive cut for Cover
>assuming she has ZERO cost that was bore by Cover
breaking even. At best.

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>>10941414
>one slot reservation a week, or something
U forget marine week? iirc both new outfit and 3D is on the same week, no overlap from jp side ( of course ID scum will overlap to their senpai big day )

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It's been two months since Coco graduated, Of course she's going to make a bit of money, She'll get a bump this month because of her new 3D but it'll keep declining every month.

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>>10941262
>Already
It's over 3 months old now, it's crazy that it's still there with 25K daily views without even an MV and with "competition" within youtube with the topic channel version growing basically at the same rate as the main one.

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>>10941502
The myth girls in particular a) all seem to feel like they already have enough money to the point expending effort to get marginally more isn’t a priority b) care as much or more about the personal relationships they’ve built as part of Hololive. The gen system only reinforces this more. A lot of Holos could make more by leaving but for the majority it’s not worth leaving your friends behind. Mori feels like she finally found real friends she can trust. She’s not going to endanger that for an extra 100k here or there.

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IRyS will never get a song to 1 million views or top charts

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>>10941632
one of her MV's is already close to a 1 million.

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>>10941632
Fuck off.

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>>10941482
Vshojo fags maybe? Idk, the arguments they bring are pretty silly or just straight out wrong so i assume it's just baiting.

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>>10941548
She only gets 20% of her previous SCs after tax while now she gets 70%, genius.

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>>10941502
The twitch leak doesn't count streamlabs either so there's a lot of revenue for twitch that isn't being counted here, twitch is just a superior platform for monetization

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why is it whenever it's close to jp primetime the amount of bait, shitpost and tribal is increasing?

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>>10941844
newfagchama...

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>>10941844
Because it's SEA primetime too, jk it's because board activity also crank up around this time jk it's those damn SEAniggers actually

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>>10941714
>She only gets 20% of her previous SCs
That's a rrat. Even in a 50-50 split post Susan she would get 35% and I truly doubt she would be in a "even steven" contract with Cover after her magnificent 2020.

To break even Cover post-Susan cut would have to be about 45%, even discarding her June and July for being graduated buffed and keeping her August even being graduated buffed.
Assuming zero cost on her part (accountant, lawyer, model, rigging, comissions) she's at best, with her two months right after graduation, breaking even

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>>10941524
It's a daily ranking moron.

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>>10941714
Cover take 50% of 70% means 35%, Retard

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>>10942149
And that's negotiable, some holos said on stream that they renegotiate their cut.

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you guys just think SC is everything because it's the only concrete numbers you have.

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>Subaru Micra 21k

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>>10942175
DUH! Of course in teh numbers thread people will talk about concrete numbers and not assumptions.

And who the fuck is "you guys"? Most people in this thread speculate regularly about other income sources and even about each company financial statement but, without concrete data, SC is all that can be compared head to head

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>10942175
>Newfag

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kek, Haachama can't be predicted
>cancelled Mario Kart
>opened a "BABUBABABrbrbRbbbfsjrjkz#$%&'()r31qy7" stream that not even veteran Haaton could figure out
>starts stream as something lore like, then moves to some sort of Karaoke

She may hit 10k with this if she stays long enough, people are jumping it entirely out of curiosity
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/H5nmrQYng0g

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>DUH! Of course in teh numbers thread people will talk about concrete numbers and not assumptions.
LOL

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>>10939021
If Miko is making that much through twitch why not use it more? Could it be that Youtube is about as profitable for her? If so Holos and top Nijis must make ridiculous bank. Makes me wonder why more people don't sign up.

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Stacked slot and primetime didn't even kick in yet

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>>10942613
Subaru going to the EN server with Kronii on, let see if she ends up stumbling into her. Very likely to clear 30k at this rate.

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>>10942679
>ILLEGAL VIEW FUNNELLING
stop the count!

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>>10942473
Many currrent Holos either have Twitch channels or had them in the past. It’s not a mystery to them. The fact they are almost completely uninterested should tell you something. Pekora, numberfag prime, doesn’t seem to care despite making 25k for three streams. We can’t be sure. But it’s pretty obvious Twitch isn’t the obviously superior platform for them.

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>>10941412
Coco's a bit of unique situation in that she was already known for her other persona which was also relatively still active while she was Coco. Matsuri, Mel and Noel could if they want, in fact Mel and Noel actually earn way more in their other persona.

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>>10942473
>>10942732
More likely it's Cover management being incompetent and controlling as usual and barring them from making Twitch their main site

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I got to thinking, I notice this thread complains about chuubas turning SCs off and leaving money on the table but maybe they make so much from everything else that they'd rather not deal with the cringe. Not worth the energy too. Maybe the main reason to read SCs are for audience engagement and not the $10 that comes from it. I'm demoralized by this, we're seem to be babbling in the dark.

>>10942732
Maybe management thinks Youtube only. I don't think those rules apply to older members, Miko seems to be able to do anything she wants.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10942613
>>10942679
>>10942708
WTF Does Subaru rarely play MC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10942874
When management are being fags the talents bitch. I haven't heard a peep about wanting to be on twitch. Also Niji JPs don't touch twitch and you'd think their laz a faire management would let them be on twitch. I know NijiEN does but I do not know how often.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943033
So far Kiara and Ame have said they have absolutely no interest streaming on twitch. Don’t know if any other EN have commented on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10942874
Then why are Anycolor with their superior management haven't move to Twitch yet? Or VSPO where they are focused on competitive fps that is way more popular on Twitch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943033
They don't bitch because they don't understand how much better Twitch is as a platform, if they understood they'd be petitioning to be allowed to stream there and obviously management is too retarded to explain to them why Twitch is better too

[Anonymous No.]

>>10942956
Subaru doesn't MC very often yea. She often ends up finding out a bunch of new stuff ha been built since the last time she's logged in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943033
some nijiJP do stream on twitch though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943078
Ame used to be on twitch. Ame said she doesn't want to use twitch. QED

[Anonymous No.]

So, in summary:

On Oricon's integrated albums Still Still Stellar is 6th with 20,793 points of sales.
On weekly physical albums Still Still Stellar is also 6th with 16,117 copies sold. Biography is 47th with 1,553 units sold.
On weekly digital albums Still Still Stellar is 1st with 4,348 downloads. On daily list Still Still Stellar fell off, I guess it is finally sold out for good.
On integrated singles list Contrails doesn't appear for some reason, maybe it lost hard on streaming platforms? On the weekly digital singles Contrails is 4th with 10,420 downloads.
On weekly anime albums(!), Biography is 1st.

On Billboard's Hot Albums chart Still Still Stellar is 4th, first week on the list obviously. Biography is on it's second week, now 34th after falling from previous week's 4th.
On Download Songs Contrails is 1st, and Stellar Stellar is 87th, first week for both obviously.
On Download Albums, Still Still Stellar is 1st, Rain Drops 38th after falling off from previous week's 4th.
Nobody made it on Top Single Sales, so whatever's going on with Contrails affects it on both sites.
On Top Album Sales Still Still Stellar is 5th, Rain Drops 40th after falling off from 4th.
On Top 100 Artists Suisei is 22nd (fifth week on the list) and Kuzuha 48th (first week). Rain Drops was 32nd last week (second week on the list).
On Top 100 Lyricists Mizuguchi Takaki & Kuzuha are 38th (first week). I couldn't be arsed to copypaste all the kanji on Ctrl+F for those composers and lyricists on the albums since they don't seem to be there based on a brief skim. I feel like these two lists are more worth for the meme value than anything else, they seem too automated to actually mean anything and the parametres seem to be off generally speaking.

In conclusion: Excellent week for chuuba music. For first week sales, Contrails looks to be the best-selling chuuba single to date as I think Suisei and Mito were the previous contenders with 6k sales (but maybe HimeHina or some VSinger sold better?), and Still Still Stellar is the 3rd best-selling album, Biography having been the previous bronze medalist last week. In fact, based on just the first week's physical sales, it seems like after the first week Still Still Stellar is already the best-selling chuuba album by a solo artist, although HimeHina's Aoi no Hana has had a year and a half to gather downloads for which I don't have concrete numbers, so maybe not (yet). At any rate, there's more than enough reason for celebrations at least for the big two.

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>>10943033
Twitch isn’t as popular in Japan as it is in the west. 100k is decent but it’s not much in terms of Miko’s overall revenue. HoloEN is the group that could really make bank and it’s not like there weren’t streamers who would’ve welcomed them with open arms into the Twitch ecosystem. They just don’t want to for some reason.

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>>10943033
Kanae is streaming now on twitch 5.7k

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943099
>implying that's entirely her own wishes and not because she was pressured by management to not use Twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943154
Tryna get Stylish and Gea's followers

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>>10943151
becasue you would need to get into twitch exclusive and no business with 2 neurons would actually sign that.
i dont give a shit if they dont enforce it, singing that deal is just asking for toruble down the line.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943151
I'm going with occam's razor and saying they make good enough money on youtube so the switch to twitch isn't as lucrative as we're making it out to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943033
Rin has been streaming on Twitch for months

[Anonymous No.]

>Kronii in Minecraft again without streaming
This girl is literally the anti Ayame. Both of them rarely stream but instead of sucking dicks she is hanging out with holos, just not streaming her POV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943131
Next stop, Mori's new album set soon. Other than that, I just hope Cover does more group songs like they did for Bloom, maybe showcase newer songs for Holofest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943181
What has Hololive management done to you anon? so much so that they live rent free in your head.

[Anonymous No.]

Strong start for an already packed slot

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943078
>>10943181
Do you work for Twitch anon? You seem hell bent on making Hololive move permanently to Twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943399
>Nether adventure
>No POV from either polka or kronii
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>nijiEN should move to Twitch
>they have no chance on yt
>look at the vshojo revenue

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943487
>Mel
>Kaoru
>Aloe
>Coco
>on top of their usual shitbaggery in mistreating EN1 despite being the gen with the biggest numbers
The only thing they don't do is provide proper support and creative freedom for their streamers

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>>10943399
>be a former NEET and failed VA to becoming a 20 view from a start up company
>somehow get into one of the top agencies in the world
>instead of making hundreds to thousands a stream she fucks around on a mineecraft server
MAKE MORE MONEY. I don't watch her but it kills me to know all the numbers she is leaving on the table.

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>>10943609
Strange list, must be NRKM faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>Subaru drops from 31k to 28k when Pekora starts
Pekora stole 3k viewers from her.

[Anonymous No.]

Strong numbers today most mid tier holos are above 10k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943752
>Pekora stole

>Pekora 22k
>Subaruk 28k
>Suisei 16k
>Fubuki 16k

Pretty stacked

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[Anonymous No.]

>>10943865
jesus christ

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943865
Hololive is back!

[Anonymous No.]

Not sure if anyone here noticed but the entirety of twitch got leaked on /g/, if you want to see how much chuubas have made from twitch streaming you can here https://pastebin.com/LjmaPNam

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943865
pekora 30k right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944090
Anon, try to read the thread before posting.

[Anonymous No.]

>Niji pre-Kuzuha numbers
He just started his stream and so did Hoshikawa, both for the CR Cup

[Anonymous No.]

Why no id holos playing minecraft right now?? If you want to leech this is it.

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii's now in vc with Subaru, this is gonna be good exposure to her for the JPs who don't check out EN streams and could really endear her to them for trying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944276
They were making their own server and building off stream, dumb idea

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944276
They're setting up their own server to link to JP, presumably due to the new wave incoming so they wanted space of their own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944276
If there's an ID that will pop up to leech, it'd probably be Ollie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944350
It won't be linked the same way the EN server is because the IDs want it to for playing with non-holo randos

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944431
Ollie only likes to leech off of twitch e-celebs, please understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944449
What? Source?

[Anonymous No.]

110k from five of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>5 holos over 15k
sugoi

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944557
JESAS HOLOLIVE TRUE POWER

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944557
King... Where are you when we need you the most...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944333
Praying to god that ID gen 3 got a leader type.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944662
Busy illegal view funneling fuwa to 10k

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944721
Lyrica would've been good if Cover wasn't afraid of ID backlash because they put a flip to ID

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944557
When will Vshojo and Nijisanji get these numbers for ordinary streams? Nijifags probably will pull out their lovely fuckboi Kuzuha again.

[Anonymous No.]

we might have 4 Holo streams over 20k at the same time if Subaru streams for a little longer.
don't think I've ever seen that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944725
Kek.
But yea, holy shit that's a lot of people watching HoloMinecraft right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944803
>Lyrica
Anon.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944803
Eh like more than half of HoloEN aren't americans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944836
I mean, yeah, it was wasted potential she went to that place

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944848
EN doesn't mean US fucking A anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944662
It's his day to win honestly none of the holos are going to get numbers which cannot be crossed with this much overlap. Let's see what happens.

[Anonymous No.]

jesas, is pekora going to hit 40K

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944803
Don't worry. Reine is gonna pull a nepostim hire from all her rich friends that are talented and could probably sing and play a piano.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944879
he didn't even hit 30k yesterday during scrims.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944848
Thats why its not called HoloUS retarded monkey

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944906
Kuzuha is going to get 50k today

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944662
Busy cannibalizing other Nijis' viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944848
kekkkk

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944932
Screencapped, printed, hand painted a copy and etched in a solid marble tablet for future reference

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944918
Yeah it all depends on him that's why I said it's his to win. If he plays like shit again then breaking 30k again might be difficult. Let's see what happens.

[Anonymous No.]

Meanwhile, Kson is playing ark while watching the agency she entrusted to revive it is doing the opposite, kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944932
It's not even the last day of scrims

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit, what happened to Hololive in October? Everyone is getting insane viewership, even HoloCouncil as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944662

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944999
>playing ark
That game is fucking poison for numbers in the medium and long run

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945022
HOLOLIVE FEAR

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945022
Anon-chama....Holoserver reps

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945022
Collab ban lifted, server merge and a new MC arc for Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

Sana, Bae, and Kronii are all on Minecraft while some of the biggest JP talents are there too and NONE of them are streaming, lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945043
Subaru inclining shes at 26k and Pekora at 41k. Both mogged Kuzuha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945113
Oops, allergic to numbers and guerilla streams, pls undahstand

[Anonymous No.]

>>10941267
Huh, turns out their debut album has already debuted in ranking and with much better number than I was expecting (thought it would debut somewhere between Morinaka's and Kaede's album 2,750~2937)

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945113
Dumb broads. Yesterday Botan told Sana something like
>don’t watch all JP server attractions with me now, your audience would benefit from you doing it on stream

[Anonymous No.]

SUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945177
Wise lion words

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945169
Suisei's album is gone from chart kek. It must be sold out everywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945215
Very polite way to say
>dumb gyaru, think of your fucking numbers!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945240
>sold out
Retardchama? That's digital.

[Anonymous No.]

Wtffff Pekora 40k Subaru 30k Fubuki 20k Suisei 20k Noel 14k right now. Hololive really is unity and not just one person playing Apex being the only relevant person in the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945240
New sales aren’t being shipped out till late October.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945354
anonchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945406
did suisei said that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945406
source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945354
Anonchama your katakana reps…

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945402
>Hololive really is unity
That doesn’t make any sense in this context. Each girl is doing their thing, it has nothing to do with “unity” (which they have, not disputing that)

[Anonymous No.]

Subaru is back at 30k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945354
Retardchama https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2021-10-05/
Snow Man doesnt have digital

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945465
>>10945471
It’s just something I noticed when I was checking price for her album, there’s a notice on some websites selling the physical album that it’s shipping late October.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945484
Did her path intersect with Pekora? I could see an impromptu adventure in EN lands inclining even harder for both

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945212
it's just like the usaken festival but it's just a regular day wtf....

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945526
They've been doing Looney Tunes shit for the past 20 minutes, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

I've not seen something like this in fucking ages.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945526
Yupp their paths intersected. Boosted peko to 44k while subaru is about to break 31k.

[Anonymous No.]

Sasuga Shark! How can one small shark be so powerful?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945573
October/November is gonna be Holonumbers months. Kuzuha....Niji can't be run out of the rankings like this...onegai...

[Anonymous No.]

>EN costume reveal
>concerts
>minecraft kino
>3d events
>holoalt (or other project jp6?)
I can see the incline again.

[Anonymous No.]

Subaru ending her stream, I wonder where those 30k will go

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945573
JP golden weeks is only what 3 months ago?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945548
One of the moments Subaru started getting into the sights of the Pekora and Micra audience was the construction of Shubvangelion and Pekora shooting flaming arrows at her construction.
Put her right into the “kensetsu wars” arc, which ended up on a surprising twist
>Usaken poached Rushia and turned “Oozora Kensetsu” into “Oozora ‘circle’”
And in search of reparation Subaru became “Oozora Keisatsu” (Oozora Police), to HUGE NUMBERS

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945632
Pekora will get 8k-10k. 5k goes to suisei. Rest disappears into thin air.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945526
Classic PekoSuba moment reminiscent of the prank wars of 2020. Once the Minecraft school festival project gets properly started there should be a lot more highly viewed MC streams from hololive in the coming month or two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945673
suisei is in her last song though, so all will go to pekora i think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945673
Suisei is on her last song.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945626
If Gura plays MC more(80% of her schedule) , she might ㄍhave avg. >30K again since she can play in JP server.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945526
yup, a lot of omaes

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945707
>>10945710
Then it's peko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945113
>Build a bunch of stuffs for the portal opening, even played off streams for that
>Virtually disappear (stream-wise) after the portal opened
I still find that hilarious and dumb, maybe hilariously dumb. I don't think they should be obsessed with numbers, but I think they shouldn't be turning away from obvious chance to get views and possibly new fans either. IRyS asides since she said she'd be busy this month with recording, EN could have had a mini festival right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945752
Just release the costume t b h. She was 27k median back in May

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945707
>>10945673
All will go to the fps queen

[Anonymous No.]

Watame about to jump onto Mc in a few minutes, so she's about to get some NUMBERS.

[Anonymous No.]

FUCK YOUUUUU SUSANNNNNN

[Anonymous No.]

And YouTube killed Pekora

[Anonymous No.]

susan decided pekora is too strong

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking SUSAN

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945907
>>10945916
>>10945932
>>10945938
Shut up, we don't want you to know how much we underpay their stream after Twitch leaks.
t.best CEO suzzy

[Anonymous No.]

Safe to say the day goes to Pekkers? I don't see Kuzu getting higher than her when he's winning since day 1 scrim, he got like 39k after winning round 2 or something

[Anonymous No.]

Just had a thought, with the JP girls getting more comfortable with the EN girls through MC, maybe it could lead to more collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946161
Kuzuha… Apex was your only job but you failed again…

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946161
Yes, 44k is not a number I think Kuzuha is gonna top on a non-tourney day.

[Anonymous No.]

For fuck sake can somebody from en put up a minecraft stream please!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945621
This is actually insane. Gura is fucking powerful.

[Anonymous No.]

Still Still Stellar MV dropping tomorrow evening. How well are we expecting it to do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946476
1M in 12 hrs

[Anonymous No.]

Kuzuha is just in another universe in relation to his mates. His performance is so dominant I can’t even think in a counterpart to that in any other company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946496
Let's not be silly now. I'm expecting it to be a bit faster than Ghost, but it'll still take a bit over a week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946496
too much. The topic version was released a week ago. People already heard it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945621
To be fair, that 2Snacks animation is one of their longest and best Holo animations to date, and really helped bring a pretty damn funny interaction in and of itself to life.
Add in no need for Subtitles, and now even more algorithm favor due to Sora in Smash, it's little surprise it's gonna do better.
And while the Ankha meme may be waning, it's a cute tongue-in-cheek reference that many will find funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946476
2.5 days

[Anonymous No.]

fubuki's limited full set merch sold out instantly on the HL official store..... does the anon from the other day can find out how many is the amount of those like ayame's?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946496
Wrong move many people already heard it, but if the MV is good maybe a week based on her other song

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946592
to1M

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946606
It sold out instantly on geekjack too. I know because I tried it

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946476
a week i think

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946510
Gura? 20k+ while the rest are sub 10k

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946606
That one anon got it through booth api, this is a Shopify storefront so I doubt it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946644
i feel you dude.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946476
I'd expect it to be at around the same pace as aqua's umapyoi densetsu cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946651
>20k+ while the rest are sub 10k
Not really. Ina is 10k+, for instance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946651
>Company
>Compares it to a generation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946496
Nah, it's a late MV. probably will take same time as GHOST.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946644
Isn’t geekjacket the day after?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946792
Not in this case, Fubuki's merch launched on both sites simultaneously

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946684
I wish that anon post here too....

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946788
Mori's 3 songs from Your Mori except red might be the best example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946751
I think this is a good call. I'd love to be surprised by it being as fast as End of a Life but I don't see it happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946822
fuck. Was watching peko, now I'm too late for friend's merch

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if Kuzuha can incline all the way up to 40k today.
It’s not impossible but APEX doesn’t help in that sense, even a full game to champion is time limited and the drop unavoidably comes right after.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946916
Please.. Astel... Win the game. You got two pros in your team.

[Anonymous No.]

Miko is playing Mario Kart which is a great numbers game for her since she always spices it up with unique challenges.

What I'm wondering though is why hasn't she hopped on this Minecraft train yet with how buffed it is right now? She is one of the titans of Hololive Minecraft and its actually been a while since she has played it.

[Anonymous No.]

>300
Thread improves from this line forward
___________________________

[Anonymous No.]

Kuzukeks what now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946986
>been a while since she has played it.
5 days ago anon. She played it 5 days ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946986
>What I'm wondering though is why hasn't she hopped on this Minecraft train yet with how buffed it is right now?
Because she’s smart. Overlapping with Pekora on EN server adventures would lost her numbers instead of doing it a little later

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946999
These threads have been too peaceful recently…

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946916
40k for just scrims no way even if his team does well. 25k-30k is more reasonable and usual for him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946983
The other one is not a pro lol. Not even close

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947070
Because bait threads are rampant. Easier to get Yous using numbers there

[Anonymous No.]

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021

1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)

[Anonymous No.]

All Council is in the server but no one stream their PoV WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947049
Yeah and that was the first time in a month. I was more refering to the EN server shenanigans that so many JP holos are taking advantage of now. I'm surprised she hasn't gotten in on that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947070
its because nijis have been losing lately, cant shitpost without bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947144
Might as well put Subaru the next day because nothing is gonna top her. Plus, she's gonna dance too.

I believe she can get an easy 75k

[Anonymous No.]

How is the number for the new gen of NijiEN? Are they doing well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946986
She tries to avoid Pekora nowadays and vice versa

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947194
too early anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945799
Fuck that. Be obsessed with numbers for the first three months to take advantage of the algorithm. Your initial growth is critical and will affect your channel forever. Get your first few paychecks in the bank, establish a viewer base and time slot, then start experimenting more. Ahhhhhhhh!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947194
All of them already got 10k subs. I don't know how it compares to Lazulight and Obsydian.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947190
it was delayed 2 years. Can reach 100k

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947070
sitsposters are busy with nijiwave 3
in that topic they all have crossed the 10k mark but little difference between them.
they need more than 8k by tonight to make niji look like it is growing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946606
Cover for the love of god, I understand you don't want to have leftover merch and hurt your talents' egos but if it sells out in less than 10 minutes, maybe bump up your quantities juuuuust a bit. Or jack up the price. Just don't leave money on the table

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946901
Gura and Mori just inherently have the EN fanbase reach than Suisei, as great as she is, just doesn't have. People bagging on Aqua's Uma Masume cover... Even among weebs reincarnated horse racing idol anime with no dub is pretty niche.

[Anonymous No.]

Lion 14k playing BF2042 beta and people said gen 5 is a failure?

[Anonymous No.]

From what I see on NijiMado hourly chart none of the niji streams except Kuzuha's crossed 10k today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947287
afetr 24hrs obsidian were 16k and 18k for petra.
So they need 9k to confirm there is a bigger intrerest at least.
There is still the risk of susan slashing their subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947158
the fuck are they even doing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947446
Suichan does have a sizeable chinks fanbase tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947379
It's the limited ones that's sold out. The normal ones is still there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947450
>ARK arc
terrible game for numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947379
The talents set the limit iirc.
Either way 1 merch run of semi-popular holo makes a shit ton of money anyways.
Watame bday was estimated at ~700k

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947449
>new Battlefield buff
>only 14k
Yes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947511
Wait till Kson gets her vtuber avatar and invites kanata to her ark server

[Anonymous No.]

https://streamable.com/vbqeng

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947511
Kanae , Ibrahim and Fuwa are in a apex tourney and none of them crossed 10k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947379
i wonder about stuff like this in general. i understand that making limited quantities and selling merch for a limited time only will increase hype and benefit sales.
however, why do companies sometimes underproduce merch so badly? it only benefits scalpers/resellers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947481
Who knows. We only have Pekora's PoV and she doesn't play with the other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947158
I truely don't get it. Are they worried it won't be high quality content? Do they not get their fans are fine with chatting and spontaneous cute moments with Jps/other Ens? I'm honestly baffled why they aren't streaming what is apparently hours and hours of content. Holofans will literally watch a Holo dig a hole down to bedrock in silence. They will pay hundreds of dollars to watch that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947379
That's for the handsigned merch, it costs the same as the regular merch so the only limit is however many Fubuki wishes to personally sign

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>>10947592
Limited merchs have holos personally signed them. I think there was someone who hurts her hand from signing too many merch and that's why now they make a hard limit.

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>>10947591
it's not the actual tourney day.
well on the day of only kanae will pass 10k for sure. fuwa has a chance but i wouldn't count on it.

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>>10947305
What was Lazulight and Obsydias sub numbers after 24 hours and predebut? Any chance one of them finally beats the tutorial boss?

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>>10947628
Maybe they are afraid that people will call them leech. Or maybe they still don't know what kind of content can bring you viewers since Kronii said "Who the fuck want to watch someone build a bunker?"

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>>10946756
>Ina is 10k+
lol this hasnt been true for months now no matter how much you repeat it

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>>10947641
yeah in this case it makes sense, you can't expect a normal person to sign an industrial quantity of goods. it just made me think in general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947449
They are doing perfectly fine compared to 98% of nijisanji

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>>10947641
The numberfag inside me: then raise prices to meet demand, then make a extra special, serialized set of merch that is signed on stream with personalized messages for top donators at even higher prices. I know, I know I can't help myself. But for real, part of Hololive's appeal is that they aren't that cutthroat, even if it would make them more money

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947668
after 24hr
Rosemi 16k
Selen 16k
Petra18k

After 48hr
Rosemi: 20k
Selen: 20k
Petra: 23k

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947628
>>10947481
they are likely just slaving away in collecting material for their builds. Most of the jps do the same, offstream.

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>>10947144
I think 8 and 9 gonna be Niji debuts since all the Nijiniggers are saying that they will overthrow Holo and all are gura killers. Not like they said the same thing for 1st&2nd wave

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>>10947699
>For months
Ina august median 11.8k
Ina september median 10.7k

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>>10947723
>you can't expect a normal person to sign an industrial quantity of goods
Some cosplay thots even **kiss** a huge quantity of goods, until their lips get dry.

Gotta go the lengths to get the cash

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>>10947782
Both Lazulight and Obsydian debut number are just normal day in Hololive. Well they said that wave 3 is the strongest wave so we'll see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947734
Not good desu, Hololive has global audiences and they are more critical to what is usually overpriced otaku merchs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943131
>Top 100 Artists Suisei is 22nd (fifth week on the list)
Yo that seems big. Very happy for Suisei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947782
Niji debuts? I dont see any new niji jp

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>>10947855
It seems so soon. There hasn’t been much time for the previous gens to develop and not enough time for the gap to build hype. You could argue it’s take on almoat a year for Gura, Mori, Kiara to really settle down and hit their stride. They seem quite happy to act as mentors. Six months ago I’m not sure they would be true

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>>10947812
That level of desparation would be pretty counter to Hololive's image. Some fanservice is a-okay. Desparation in working towards bettering themselves? Marvelous. Revealing themselves to be money grubbing desparate whores? Big yab.

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>>10948017
Yeah, I agree in the great scheme of things. And also the fact the lower the run the higher the perceived value of being able to get one of those.

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>>10947974
There's no need for mentor livers in Nijisanji when management is competent enough to help and guide the talents, this isn't hololive we're talking about. Niji management actually works for their paycheck instead of sitting on their asses being retarded.

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>>10948046
doesnt help their numbers tough. See all the overlaps.

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>>10947772
Thanks anon. Gonna keep tabs on them based on this stats. This might be a good way to gouge if the audience for NijiEn actually grew after Obsydia. Also, additional reference but tutorial boss is currently at 36.1k subs

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>>10948046
>Niji management actually works for their paycheck instead of sitting on their asses being retarded.
ahaha good one anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>10948046
>competent
Letting that retarded 14 people collabs happen is not a sign of competence.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone got the recent nijiEN numbers? Average viewers over the last couple of weeks or month or something.

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>>10946476
Kakero, which took almost a month, ought to be the comparison here due to how late the MV is. On the other hand it is the ED for some music programme, so maybe it'll pick up some speed especially if the video is good and her rankings create some buzz? I'd still veer closer to a month and guess 25 days.

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>>10948085
>>10948164
It's called creative freedom, maybe Cover can try it sometime

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>>10948046
Mentor here doesn't really mean as tutor anon. It's more like senpai/senior.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10948281
This is the numbers thread anon, not the "creative freedom" thread. Whatever it is, if it doesn't generate numbers it will obviously be considered inferior to whatever alternative

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>>10948312
There's no need for NijiEN to have a senior liver to learn the ropes from because management will teach them instead of pushing it off all onto the other livers, that's the point.

[Anonymous No.]

* Top streams of the day so far *
Missing
>ClockGirl @ 17.4k
>OwlGirl @ 13,3k

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>>10948405
Imagine if they have """creative freedom""", they can get 100k CCV easily.

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>>10948379
indeed, who better to learn about being entertaining on stream from than a random japanese office drone? no wonder recent Niji gens have been such a roaring success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10948379
Ah yes, the niji management that have managed to produce such riveting talent as... pretty much just Kuzuha.

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>>10948046
There's a difference between management and actual senpais. It's like how in the locker room you have that vet who may not be the best talent-wise and might even be riding the bench but he has the respect of everyon, even the star players, so when someone's in a bad spot they can advise their rooks and it'll actually get through to them because it's coming from actual players instead of a bunch of trainers and analytics nerds. It's the reason why so many former players get jobs in the coaching dept. I agree with the other anon that Myth having a full year going through all the shit that they did prepared themselves to mentor Council. And because myth themselves are pretty much all stars with Gura being EN Lebron you know they're gonna listen. NijiEn honestly reminds me of the late 2010s Bulls. No vets, just a bunch of guys who wanna hang out and shoot the shit.

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>>10948046
kek, good one

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>>10948405
Holy shit niji females on extended vacation or smth? They're not in the chart for couple days now

[Anonymous No.]

>>10948517
And what content does he produce? Apex.
Truly creative. How inspiring.

[Anonymous No.]

12hr
Reimu: 10.4K
Nina: 10.7k
Millie: 10.9k
Enna: 10.2k
Trailer: 96k

[Anonymous No.]

>>10948405
>only 1 niji and its fucking Kuzuha
100+ members…

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>>10948517
Whose """""creative freedom"""""" content is A-Apex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10948379
>>10948046
Pretty retarded management to schedule debut during Gura's stream, should've debuted when Gura goes to church desu

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>>10948605
HEY HEY! Not even kidding, it is most definitely not easy to keep a 25k+ audience streaming APEX in a sea of people streaming APEX.
It takes talent and creativity because there is no barrier of entry and people could just flock to whatever other POV streaming the same game, sometimes in the same championship

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>>10948405
so holos + random apexfags, is vtubing outside of holos dying bros..

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>>10948606
mmmm
trailer was Trailer: 253k for obsidian after 24hrs

i dont think this gen is going to pull the same interest as obsidian. Are they having ads again or they drop that tool?

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>>10948657
That Gura collab stream is a tactical snipe by Omega

[Anonymous No.]

>>10948653
Hey, give him some slack.
He has a company yaoi ship too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10948659
He's King after all.
And the others... haha...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10948606
Not sure if its a good or bad sign that none of this girls have a predebut standout. Also, making up the remaining 8k to at least be on par with Obsydia might be a slightly big ask at the moment.

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>>10948046
So you don't watch niji then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10948606
Why is Susan not culling them subs??!! Reeeeeeee

[Anonymous No.]

>>10948605
>>10948653
>APEX
APEX
>APEX
APEX
>APEX
APEX

I LOVE APEX LEGENDS

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>>10948676
Don’t know about this wave but Obsydia had ads running the moment they got announced.
>>10948703
The new wave hasn’t had any videos yet as well, maybe Niji is waiting for YouTube to cut their subs first. Culls tend to happen after the 24hr mark.

[Anonymous No.]

Chihiro dislikes are starting to taper down.

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>>10948676
>ads
Yes they have to or else the difference with Lazulight and Obsydian become really apparent. Then again people said that this wave has great singers so maybe they can pull their weight off unlike Elira who had to pull her gen alone in singing.

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>>10948774
culling happnes around burger prime time
but with the current growth a subs culling would be devastating.

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>>10948809
>The new wave hasn’t had any videos yet as well, maybe Niji is waiting for YouTube to cut their subs first. Culls tend to happen after the 24hr mark.
You need to be this tall
> ------
> -
> -
> -
> ------
to have your subs cut.

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>>10948817
it is not singing that keeps interest, anon

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>>10948517
And the reason he's at the position he's in is because of kanae and other niji livers helping him become less of a raging loser neet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10948811
Did Junfags realize just how shit Jun's apex skill is and literally anyone with a hand can solo him 1 on 1?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10948691
Nah surprise off collab with Ame: unarchived public karaoke would’ve been a real snipe. Some dbd will do decent numbers but nothing that should torpedo niji completely.

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>>10948817
unless they have their own singles ready or unarchived karaokes that singing isnt saving anyone.

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>>10948809
There have been ads. I had an unadblocked browser check on some holostreams.

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>>10948942
its with mumei, check her schedule. But if its minecraft amelia might make an appearance as well

[Anonymous No.]

Watame surely didn't pick the best slot to do a regular Minecraft construction stream.
Could have waited a few hours and do it "late night"; risking an overlap with some early Council Minecraft streams.

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>>10948703
I haven't seen any ad *yet* when I was going through YT on my tablet earlier, so probably not (or not yet).
I'd feel bad if these girls aren't at least more successful than previous Niji waves, though. Roommate asides, they seem to be more engaging with each others (and with previous gens) pre-debuts than Obsidia and I have a soft spot to hardworking girls.

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>>10949007
She is overlapping pekers, after pekero finishes she will incline to some extent as usual.

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>>10948954
That’s pretty bad with ads then.
From what I remember when I calculated sub growth from the first two waves, ads don’t increase the rate of subs gained. Maybe it helps keep the same rate, but it doesn’t increase it.

[Anonymous No.]

What's with vtubers debuting all in one month like July had Obsydia, Edengumi, Cyberlive. This month had Ethyria, VOMs and MyHoloTV. Why don't they do it in August and September?

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>>10949064
it would makethe trailer at least grow on views but it been sub 100k measn those ads arent effective or they didnt pay for them anymore and let the current popularity of obsydian and lazu carry that.

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>>10948942
Is that "???" stream the collab with Ame? I thought I saw some anons earlier mentioned that it might be a DbD collab between Gura, Mumei, Mori and IRyS, plus another. Idk if that was a shitpost and I was too trusting, though (wasn't watching the shark's MC stream)

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>>10949080
who would want to comepte with holoen council?

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>>10948668
most vtuber content is apex.

[Anonymous No.]

WHO WOULD WIN THIS HEAD TO HEAD FIGHT TO THE DEATH?

>The ALMIGHTY Sultan, king of the desert, master of the Odalisques, ruler of the Harem, sovereign of the Palace playing the game that is propelling his royalty mates to sky high numbers?
>BABUBABABrbrbRbbbfsjrjkz#$%&'()r31qy?

THE ANSWER WILL BABUBABABrbrbRbbbfsjrjkz#$%&'()r31qy7

[Anonymous No.]

>>10949137
Mori announced it on stream last night. The time wasn’t set but it was a last minute collab and it’s probably to smother NijiEN debut numbers.

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>>10949041
>I have a soft spot to hardworking girls
Very hard to keep track of newer girls once you have an oshi now while simultaneously be busy with irl. I can't save all the indies and I can't certainly follow a lot of people. My go-to are Pekora, Gura and Suisei.

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>>10949109
>August
>Go head to head with Hololive Englis's latest wave
Good talk Anon, these companies definitely knew when council would be dropping and scurried to get their shit out way before or after they debuted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10949080
You want someone to go against Holos and that too in the west ?

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>>10949168
>most vtuber content is apex.
You'll have to post some numbers to back this extraordinary assertion, anon.
Even among Nijis APEX is not the majority of their content

[Anonymous No.]

>>10949041
>I have a soft spot to hardworking girls.
May I introduce you to this cute oni? You won't find a more hardworking girl than this one in either company, and she's cute too!

[Anonymous No.]

Let’s say Kuzuha insults Yagoo on stream and his honor demands that the Niji debut must be completely crushed. On short notice what would bring in the highest numbers short of a graduation? Mori 3D live? Pekora and Miko just make out for 30 minutes: the stream? A Coco guest spot?

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>>10949317
>On short notice what would bring in the highest numbers short of a graduation
Strong enough to crush NijiEN debut? Maybe another Anya outfit reveal, overlapping with said debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>10949317
Aloe's return.

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>>10949317
Gura 3d Debut + new album announcement + single + MV
Just absolutely destroy whatever chances that wave had in the minds of the chubba watchers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10949189
kek good one

[Anonymous No.]

>>10949317
EN's 3D.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10949317
Narukami debut in holostar.

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>>10949317
If only someone made a Yagoo Dump it meme

For the question, Niji debuts is still going to happen no matter what happens. The most damaging and evil thing for Yagoo to do is halt their growth, not on the level of Susan's hocus pocus fuckery, but JP 6 debut this month.

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>>10949317
>Niji debut must be completely crushed
For nijiEN, ID girls new outfit should be enough

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>>10949503
Better yet, if somehow, on the 0.001% chance that Mori and Gura is gonna announce their outfit reveal during the DbD stream.

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>>10947295
> 100k
I doubt it. Subaru is not as big as Marine. 90k is attainable if she has strong guests. But I'll be pleasantly surprised if she can get 100k+.

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>>10949546
They might announce the date.
All that they have told us is that its in the beginning of October.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947295
>>10949584
It's fully prerecorded as well. Probably not gonna get 100k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10949546
>put 'big announcement' on the stream title
>announcing their 3D

[Anonymous No.]

>>10949690
>prerecorded
Since when is this a debuff? prerecorded has better quality overall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947295
nah, even 80k would be pretty high for subaru to be honest. it all depends on the guests. what would get MINIMUM 100k however, would be pegor's new outfit. jesus christ cover where the fuck is it??????

[Anonymous No.]

>>10949787
Cause people might not be inclined to watch it live anymore?

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>>10949584
Subaru gets incredibly strong numbers for the weirdest stuff and I feel like her international audience has been underestimated due to chat. She’s also a good dancer. With good guests I’ll say 95k. I was burned too bad on Noel’s outfit reveal and am overcompensating.

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>>10949844
And... how's holo pre recorded event number again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10949317
>short notice
Previous days:
Have Kanata play Mario Kart with Suisei appearing in the chat to abuse her.
Have Miko complain that Pekora won't respond to her Discord messages.
Ayame banned from streaming (probably not necessary).

The Day:
Subaru rushes out an episode of Oozora police.
Ayame streams.
Hoshi no Kanata joking and laughing together during a joint utawaku, cute story about Coco.
Pekomiko Minecraft.
Gura unarchived karaoke.
Throw together a collab with some group that works well together and maybe a more experimental one with Holos who have not collabed together or have collabed little. Also a collab in English and in Japanese preferably.

All directing viewers to the next and drop hints towards future projects going on in the background.

[Anonymous No.]

>3 teams missing scrims
jesas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10949317
Pekora’s second outfit.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>10949317
Just do an 11 person all POVs EN MC collab stream in their whole debut window. It's not the the way to get the highest number but it'll crush the Niji EN debut numbers into the dust and force most people to watch them on VOD.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyyx7rpTVR8
This who was selected by Kuzuha yesterday. They streamed apex together, along with someone else.
Which explains what I presume is a huge spike in viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10950748
yeah he was at 200 or 400 subs yesterday, It won't last but its nice he got some to stick around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10950748
Good lad, spreading the wealth. I don't think playboard has this one but he' s almost strong enough to make page 1 on live-ranking.

Sasuga vampire, spreading the wealth

[Anonymous No.]

>>10950748
his VODs were at a couple hundred views this morning wtf

[Anonymous No.]

>Sana on Pekora POV, helping her and on voice chat
CREATE A STREAM AND STREAM YOUR POV, DUMB BRA!

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a51VH9BYzZA

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like the new wave gained 300-400 new subs in the last hour.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10951156
already discussed >>10946476

[Anonymous No.]

>Now RatGirl joined, with no stream of her own either
THE NUMBERS AHHHHHHHHH!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10951643
I don't blame her, she clearly isn't prepped for streaming judging from her voice
Also having all the numbers concentrated in one stream is good too

[Anonymous No.]

>>10951723
>Also having all the numbers concentrated in one stream is good too
kek, is like two hobos being invited by Elon Musk to a fancy dinner and then PICKING UP THE TAB

[Anonymous No.]

>>10951751
kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>RatGirl just pranked Pekora
This will generate clips for a whole week

[Anonymous No.]

>>10951859
Clippers are going to get a nice payday off this stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10952179
Same thing for Pekora "watched hours"; 35k min for 3 hours so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10951751
Come on council is still Hololive. It’s more like two rookies on the Bills taking Tom Brady out to lunch. But Sana and Bae line up perfectly with JP hours and have decent nihongo. If they can forge a connection it could boost them immensely. But they have to follow up on it. Please Sana. Stop sabatoging yourself for like a week. Just draw some cute Holo art on stream. For the love of numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10952179
Until recently I felt like clippers were mostly leeches. But there’s literal days of content in multiple languages. If they can clip the best moments with subs everyone benefits. There’s so much content lately it’s insane. No one can keep up

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946510
>Toya beat the shit out of him

[Anonymous No.]

>>10937867
Yes there are whole Youtube channels that make a really good living off releasing one video a week or a month that might get a few million views. Gura's passively getting 2.5M a week and 15M in a month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10952603
There’s a couple EN clippers that also have Spanish CC subs as well iirc.
Surprised me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10952695
The five times a month he decides to stream (four last month). The other 25-26 days are Kuzuha days

[Anonymous No.]

>>10952603
Hololive has fostered a self sufficient system where they provide streams for clippers and clippers clip great moments for potential new viewers. News viewers can be attracted to these clips so they check out streams. Streams get more CCV, thus attracting more clippers to the fold. Holy shit, somehow, Yagoo's co.pany sudden find itself a goldmine that none other agency can even get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10937867
Yes and don't let mouth breathing retards like >>10937977 tell you otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>10952843

[Anonymous No.]

>>10953000
>The CR cup buff...
king...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10952520
>two rookies on the Bills taking Tom Brady out to lunch
Yeah, that would be an appropriate analogy
>pic related
Sep 2021 hours watched for the three of them. If Pekora is Brady making 2M/month these rookies are "only" making 200k/month, a respectable number but not in the same league

[Anonymous No.]

>>10952862
According to Holodex, council has more clips than NijiEN1. Well except Sana.
Gura is closing in on 8k clips.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10953000
>not reaching 30k two days in a row.
this is kinda surprising, maybe because his other team mate RAS who is really good is taking a couple of thousand away.
He'll be the winner on Saturday anyway when the tournament happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10952862
Clippers earn a lot for a living too. They're basically free advertising especially the ones who could translate both english to japanese and japanese to english streams. I like Soju's ch. He keeps being direct and straight to the point with memes and making it less than 3 minutes. That's like one round to the bathroom at work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10953208
I thought Pomu got tons of clips?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10952862
Found a Korean clipper that does a ton of Gura and Kronii. 50M views. Gura singing with subtitles were over 500K. It doesn’t even show up on search since the channel and title were in Korean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10953268
Pomu has the most in NijiEN at 592, Rosemi the least at 250.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10953253
>and making it less than 3 minutes. That's like one round to the bathroom at work.
That's important as fuck, some people watch these on the move, on breaks and having them short make it possible to binge, going from current to next using the cards in the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10953000
>>10953152
>Big Tourney
>Two days in a row
>Couldn't break 30k
What went wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10942164
I think that's mostly for SC farmers like Rushia and Lamy. They take extra % on that and give up points on something else in their revenue. Either that or it's a performance bonus situation. Up to 50k is 50/50 and if I go over that I get to keep 60% or whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10944848
They still speak English. Lyrica doesn't speak Indonesian. It would be like putting a French-only Quebecois in Hololive English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945113
Pekora thanks them for providing free content for her channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10953575
>They take extra % on that and give up points on something else in their revenue
Based on performance bonuses I see in other similar companies (real estate, for instance), I doubt they have to give up anything and it is more likely than not a "progressive" scale

>0-X00000 Yen: 50-50
>Next X00000 yen: 40-60
>Next X00000 yen: 30-70
>Next X00000 yen: 20-80
>Above that: you keep it all

This sort of structure incentivize productivity without any need for negotiation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10952895
Where is this graph from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10953333
Took me a while to find Niji on that horrendous website.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10953700
It benefits both sides honestly. You don't see Kuzuha setting up traps for his kouhais. Even Kaida got 20k from getting trapped by Kanae's trap in ARK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10953755
emperor hal

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora singing off, let's see who gets the bounty. Watame maybe

[Anonymous No.]

>>10953700
>Be council girls
>Providing free content
>Refuses to stream
Why are they like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10953727
I would’ve loved to have been a fly on the wall for myth contract renegotiations. They basically had infinite leverage. Really all of them could’ve left and gone indie and done very well for themselves especially if they went full Twitch. Hopefully they twisted arms for good deals

[Anonymous No.]

>>10953855
They aren't numberfaq.
Unlike shitty bird.

[Anonymous No.]

Another niji ads. Should boost up VOD views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10953975
thanks for the screenshot, now some asswipe is going to turn it into a bait OP within the hour

[Anonymous No.]

>>10947782
They'll get like 15-20k. Good enough to be on the middle of the chart but it'd have to be a slow as fuck day to win it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10954048
That happens regardless. They’ve been spamming graph anons data as well.
As long as they don’t post here and clog up the catalog instead I don’t really care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10953934
>Really all of them could’ve left and gone indie and done very well for themselves especially if they went full Twitch
Calli and Gura, I believe 100%, both could easily go back to their previous personas and thrive.
Kiara without her model and character? Maaaaaaaybe, big maybe.
A lot of her appeal is the blend between her personality and her character, a lot like Coco-Kson. She would keep a segment of her audience but could lose just enough of them to fail to reach the same critical mass and would have a hard time without the model and the "box pushing" to grow that audience back.

Amelia? Would 100% sink, drown and catch on fire inside the water.

Ina wouldn't go back to stream in the first place, that's pretty much a pay cut she's taking to have a relaxing activity to chill between doing her day job and the next job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10953975
kek can't help themselves huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>10954048
It's for archive purposes. MyHoloTV is also releasing a teaser, but they are not getting any traction.

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>>10953934
Honestly I think the only one who will still continue to be a streamer if they left Hololive is Ame. Ina will back to be an artist full time, Calli musician full time, Gura back to making videos, and whatever chicken is doing.
Anyway they just renewed their contracts and I believe there were some negotiations involved.

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>>10954207
Chicken will either be a facecam streamer again or retire to the Austrian countryside.

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>Baiters going overboard with the EN charts and tables made for this thread consumption
It keeps the board lively. As long as they're doing it there instead of here it's daijoubu

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>>10954207
This is their best gen yet aside from gen 3 and also a golden goose for how much potential income cover gets from the global audience. Just look at how many US/KRW/EU superchats they produced. Even if Cover's cut is renegotiated to 10%, they'll still make big bucks just because Gura and Mori.

What they NEED is to GET COMPETENT MANAGERS FOR GAMES PERMISSIONS AAAAAAA

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>>10948834
Even Niji KR's new wave got culled and they barely had any subs to speak of. So either they fixed the problem or they're gonna get hit, just growing slower than Holo EN won't save them.

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>>10954207
Ina and Kiara and Gura all streamed before. Mori's the only one I could see more or less dropping streaming completely.

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>>10954328
SC isn’t even that much of a revenue generator for Cover overall anyways. Cover cares more about the passive YouTube revenue and Sponsorships/Merch.

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>>10954336
youtube sub cullings happen every few months, the same time happened back when Noel was about to hit one million. My theory is that every so often the pajeets at youtube do some tweaks to the algo and every few months they deem it good enough to send it out into live testing

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>>10953934
>I would’ve loved to have been a fly on the wall for nijimales contract renegotiations. They basically had infinite leverage. Really all of them could’ve left and gone indie and done very well for themselves especially if they went full streamer. Hopefully they twisted arms for good deals

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>>10953934
>twisting arms
Cover could let all of EN go right this moment and do no more than a stumble. Most of their sponsorships and connections are centered around JP.

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>>10954486
I mean, there's a lot more interest for Hololive from Overseas now than before

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>>10953000
Holykek