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ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

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>>10896597
I swear every day the op gets weirder

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>>10896661
I keep seeing it in passing, I'm waiting until it crosses into full shitting dick nipples territory

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>>10896661
Can we just start reporting for off topic at this point?

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>>10896726
No, fuck you, this is better than dealing with the fucking tourists

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>>10896748
I think we're past the point where these were tourist counters and are firmly in the "inviting trolls" range.

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>>10896943
No we are nowhere near that point. Also have you seen the threads recently? Less tourists around these parts means that the trolls and tribalniggers can't get their (you) fix in here anymore and need to go out there and make threads for their you fix.

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>72,481: Fubuki (Hololive)
>32,361: Pekora (Hololive)
>28,655: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>28,533: Pekora (Hololive)
>24,965: Botan (Hololive)
>19,348: Subaru (Hololive)
>17,934: Reid (Indie)
>15,883: Shibuya Hal (Indie)
>14,944: Miko (Hololive)
>14,688: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>14,680: Nene (Hololive)
>13,744: Korone (Hololive)
>12,145: Shibuya Hal (Indie)
>11,989: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,765: Polka (Hololive)
>11,505: Flare (Hololive)
>10,738: Mumei (Hololive)
>10,504: Mito (Nijisanji)
>10,453: Sasaki Saku (Nijisanji)
>10,257: Calli (Hololive)

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>>10896943
Where were you when the OP got 20+ tribal replies, and every single one of them spawned 10-50 reply chains?

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when will marine return to bless us with her numbers again?

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>>10897662
In about three weeks

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Now that Kingdom Hearts is going to be on switch soon, can they play it on switch or do they still need perms from Disney?

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Here are the final numbers for Holomyth with september complete
>pic related
Everybody holding high or improving
>except for Ame

Here are all Ame streams for the month of September
>2021-09-13 :: 59498/70693 :: 【1 YEAR ANNIVERSARY】A Whole Year of...!?!? #Mythiversary
>2021-09-30 :: 16519/20934 :: 【MINECRAFT】MINE YA BUSINESS
>2021-09-14 :: 13522/15665 :: 【AMEVERSARY】A Whole Year of AME
>2021-09-21 :: 12476/15646 :: 【MINECRAFT】Portal DESIGNS~
>2021-09-25 :: 12062/13839 :: 【Karaoke】Let's SING~ #AmeBEEliever
>2021-09-03 :: 10660/12634 :: 【Karaoke】Practicin' & relaxin'
>2021-09-22 :: 9362/11985 :: 【Karaoke】BADEAHHH SAY DO U REMEMBA
>2021-09-09 :: 8977/11601 :: 【GTA:V】Get in the Car. I'm driving
>2021-09-23 :: 7752/11111 :: 【MINECRAFT】Portal IDEAS pt 2
>2021-09-08 :: 6091/8184 :: 【Papers Please】DENIED
> ** MEDIAN** 2021-09-10 :: 5162/6730 :: 【BOOMERANG X】Oi Mate ( ་ ་ )
>2021-09-18 :: 5086/6276 :: 【BATTLE FOR BIKINI BOTTOM】Ame Rehydrated!
>2021-09-23 :: 3794/5927 :: 【DEAD SPACE】lets beat this!(pt. 1)
>2021-09-04 :: 4633/5642 :: 【Abex】maybe
>2021-09-22 :: 4372/5582 :: 【BATTLE FOR BIKINI BOTTOM】Let's FINISH this!!
>2021-09-05 :: 3660/4121 :: 【COLLAB】We Were Here Together w/ Kiara~ Pt. 2
>2021-09-20 :: 3006/3256 :: 【Supa Sunday】Catchin' up on Anniversary Superchats~
>2021-09-09 :: 1527/1944 :: 【WATCHALONG】Sci-fi September~ CODE 46(2003)
>2021-09-24 :: 1538/1894 :: 【WATCHALONG】12 Monkeys
>2021-09-11 :: 1578/1764 :: 【WATCHALONG】Sci-fi September~ Snowpiercer(2013)
>2021-09-26 :: 1451/1687 :: 【WATCHALONG】Dredd(2012)

Those watchalong are POISON for both her median and her mean average, which for September is 8548 even with the Watchalong, her better since May (thanks to the anniversary numbers).
If only she would make those Members only, she wouldn't lose much in terms of audience but at least it would not hurt her public numbers

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Is there an easy way to look at sales numbers for Holo singles? I'm curious how well they are doing in general

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>>10898274
Based on when it was released, you tell me

>The game’s title screen includes an unusual button prompt labeled “before you stream.” Pressing the button produces the following message:

>This game is a copyrighted work. The copyright is held by The Walt Disney Company and a collaboration of authors representing The Walt Disney Company.
>Additionally, the copyright of certain characters is held by Square Enix Co, Ltd.
>You are free to stream the game in non-commercial contexts. However, using the streams of the game to primarily provide or listen to the music is prohibited even in such non-commercial contexts.
>For more information on the terms of use related to streaming the game, please see the official Kingdom Hearts site.

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>>10898320
>Is there an easy way to look at sales numbers for Holo singles
Camp this thread, wait for kind anons to publish them

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>>10898356
That's the rules for indies, corporate to corporate broadcast rights are a lot more retarded

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>>10898356
Fucking disney

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Choco getting 4.5K for Minecraft? Isn't that pretty high for her? Her recent ASMR got decent numbers too. Her averages get destroyed by Apex but her numbers aren't so terrible when she plays to her strengths.

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>>10898279
Here is the chart for HoloMyth, but the mean of the average CCV instead of the median of peaks.

Despite being very bad for her median, as they're short streams they're not actually to damaging to her mean.
Meanwhile the mean got super buffed by the anniversary stream, which is part of the reason the mean can be very misleading with regards to the overall performance of a streamer in a period (as it can be skewed by even a single outlier)

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>>10898550
>Isn't that pretty high for her?
Yep. Server merger will buff everybody on Minecraft for a while.

If she's smart she won't stay that long away from it again, it is clearly a good conduit for collabs and good numbers

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>>10898621
Tbf she invested a ton of work and effort into that stream and it is now (rightfully imo) by far her most viewed video. It really should be reflected in her numbers in some fashion. Focusing on big projects vs steady performance is a legitimate strategy, and one that probably suits Ame's personality better.

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>>10898782
>Focusing on big projects vs steady performance is a legitimate strategy
It truly depends if the streamer is after "accolades" or steady performance that can be measured with numbers.

Being acclaimed for a great feat is good but there is a reason Kuzuha and Pekora have the gigantic audience AND the praise for their big projects: they don't spare effort for the small things either

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>>10898320
It is fucking hard to get the number for Holo's singles since they have to be charted high enough to get ranked on Oricon and that website purge their numbers periodically. In general Calli and Suisei always sold pretty good. Marine despite her high views on her MV, didn't sold that much. Irys despite her relatively low views on her MV actually sold pretty good.

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"Artia" reborn will be graduating for good
>>10888043

Is there any chance this will get high enough numbers to feat on the daily chart (10k+) or she streams only on Bilibili, whose numbers are as good as writing random numbers on a napkin?

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>>10899241
Also I can't find Calli's single number. Towa's Palette should have sold pretty good amount but I can't find it.
You can also use https://ototoy.jp/charts/yearly/ep but they don't give the exact number

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>>10899351
Thanks for the information.

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There's a KR clip channel that has a dozen 500K+ view clips, almost all Gura. Hololive clearly is picking up some of that audience. I've seen breakdowns of SC by currency before is there a resource that let's you track over time? Be very curious to see how it changed since the Amelia Watson shitpost.

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>>10899330
Bilibili only so it’s worthless.
She’s been forbidden to stream on twitch by her Chinese overlords for a while now.

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>>10899500
>Be very curious to see how it changed since the Amelia Watson shitpost.
Yeah, people here noticed. If you see ClockGirl or Ina doing streams speaking KR you know they're testing the ground.
They didn't yet

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On the partnerships and sponsorship news

>FFXIV Radio Mog Station Special Guest is Hololive Usada Pekora

>Square Enix announced that Hololive VTuber Usada Pekora is one of several special guests that will appear on FFXIV Radio Mog Station.
>This broadcast largely focuses on information regarding Final Fantasy XIV.
>Usada Pekora will appear on the November 11, 2021 broadcast.

Couldn't help but laugh
>Radio Mog
>Invites the queen of Moggings

Like pottery!

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>>10899241
it literally says "physical sales only" there

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>>10899821
Mog from Moggle
>>10899859
I forgot to put "pic not related", sorry.

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Holy shit! It's not slowing down

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Mori’s new song almost at 1.2m
Recommend: Kiara Goodbye Declaration
Gura/Mori King
Luna livestream

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>>10900114
I usually would get Getcha, and then it's a 50:50 toss between Suisei and Mori rabbit holes.

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Shark is all over the place

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>>10900565
This chart surely would benefit from some vertical Major Gridlines

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>>10900565
Looking at this chart makes me realize why "that" anon clings so hard to 2019. Truly better times for his camp

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>>10900565
This is the second lowest point Nijisanji girls have been at since early 2019 according to that graph.

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>>10900565
oh no no no nijibros

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>>10900783
Huh. That's actually somewhat shocking and slightly worrisome. They really didn't have any significant growth over 2.5 years, at least in that split. Why? Even just organic growth should result in some expansion. Does this take into account the graduations?

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>>10901380
If this is all females I would think it’s the inclusion of foreign branches dragging it down along with a natural slight decline.

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>>10901380
They had the fastest growing femjisanji before her senpai got jealous and committed double seppuku.

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>>10900565
holojp is higher than i thought, i wonder how holoen would look like in this

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>>10901481
I honestly buy that Meiro was a menhera more when I found out she was LampMeiji (who is infamous in the ASMR community for starting shit with Noel’s roommate)

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Is it just me or is Kronii really picking up in sub count again in the past few day around the start of last week she had a minor slow down but she really revving up now

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>>10901554
Oh totally, but still it was Roa who imploded and fucked them both.

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>>10902160
Imploded in what way? Meiro refused to talk to her and it was the management who fucked up the whole situation.

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>>10901448
>I would think it’s the inclusion of foreign branches
I doubt. They wouldn't split holo in JP only to add foreign branches in the Niji side.
Also you would IMMEDIATELY see a gigantic drop when NijiID and KR would be added

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>>10902341
made it public

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>>10900565
Coco's farewell tour made me sad but it did generate some good numbers but that recline is really drastic. Nijisanji had a great summer but the Autumn isn't going that well.

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>>10900565
>>10901523
>i wonder how holoen would look like in this
Here is how HoloEN would look using the same metodology.
To lazy to graft in the values of that chart to make it all in one but based on even the "lowest performing" subbranch of EN (HoloHope, that is, IRyS) you have a general idea of how high they would rank.

>HoloEN ranks higher than NijiMales
>HoloMyth ranks higher than NijiMales
>Irys ranks higher than NijiMales
>HoloCouncil rank higher than Nijimales

That last one surprised me, I thought HoloCouncil would rank lower. That fact alone kills any attempt at a comparison between HoloEN (any gen) and NijiEN

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>>10902638
It was fun while it lasted.
Was nice seeing Niji be comparable for once.
And Coco was in over 50 streams in those 3 weeks.

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>>10901380
>Mito is busy so less streams
>Lize has jaw issues so less streams
>Toko doing more member utawaku so no big public stream
>Sasaki busy with Levergacha shit all the time so less streams
Leaving Hoshikawa, Himawari, Ars, and whoever the fuck is having a birthday, to carry the women's numbers these days.

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>>10903017
Looks like EN1 is very close to the JPs too.

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>>10900565
Holostars doko?

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>>10903543
The recent recline was not that big, what's worse i the stagnation between september 2019 and july 2020, then again between dec 2020 and sep 2021.

They didn't keep the audience they gained from the greatest boom for female vtubers, that is the biggest problem shown in that chart

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>>10903543
Uff, this feels like August-September 2020 again, when most of the popular steamers, especially the Nijifemales were out of commission and JP fans started turning against them.
That's when Nijimales really skyrocketed.

Would also put Furen, Amamiya, Bora and Nui in the carry the banner section.
They get about 3-5k average, but have made the day end list with over 10k a few times.

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>>10903856
Bora? I thought this is a JP chart, I know she'a NijiJP lite but she doesn't count
>>10903807
No, its not a big recline, it's just that the heavy hitters are busy.
And as for fans turning against them was that not due to lack of content? Everyone is busy with upcoming lives in the fall/winter. Mito, Toko, First wave, Nijirock, probably more I forgot.

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>>10903807
I was going to say that boom was in the West, but that's not fair. HoloJP inclined a ton and it wasn't all EOPs. They increased by almost a factor of 10 over the last 2-3 years. That's insanity.

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Suisei Hoshimachi - Still Still Stellar (iTunes WW chart)
9/28 - Rank 14
9/29 - Rank 2
9/30 - Rank 8
10/1 - Rank 18
10/2 - Rank 33
10/3 - Rank 39
10/4 - Rank 53
10/5 - Rank 57

Suisei is holding on pretty nicely I have to say. The only one who has held on this long so far is Mori.

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>>10900565
Can someone tell me which is which? Yellow is HoloJP or Hololive as a whole? Blue is HoloEN or Nijisanji?

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>>10904440
Yellow is HoloJP, blue is Nijimales JP, orange is Nijigirls JP, gray is Nijisanji JP.

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>>10903731
No point in adding midgets: Holostars, NijiEN, NijiKR and NijiID would just be noise near the 1k line at best, maybe 2k line for NijiEN

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>>10904402
Still Still Stellar - 16,117 sales on week 1 (sold out).

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>>10904579
Oh thanks, but i guess you mean Gray is HoloEN right?
Kinda weird that HoloEN didn't have an incline since their numbers have been buffed recently. But then again Ame's watchalongs and Kiara's Tale of Arise are poison to average.

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>>10904440
Anon at >>10904579 spoonfed you but, at least for this thread which ferries a lot of JP bros charts from “there” to here, doing your kana reps and at very least the numbers, counters and “man” and “woman” kanji are mandatory

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>>10904785
>i guess you mean Gray is HoloEN right
HoloEN is not at that chart. Only JP for either Hololive and Nijisanji.

EN is here: >>10903017

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>>10904785
Gray is Nijisanji as a whole, how the fuck are you on /vt/ but can't recognize Nijisanji and Hololive in text?

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>>10904860
Ohh ok, thanks again
>>10904810
Noted

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>>10904705
Doing some rough math, at 3000 yen each from CDJapan, Suisei grossed ~$433k - $477k (3300 yen seems to be normal price elsewhere) off physical sales in Japan alone.
Keep in mind that her album topped the charts on Otoytoy (8th for yearly already) and iTunes as well. Amazon music figures are unknown.

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>>10904810
>>10904913
>listening to a weeb
lol never do any reps, this is literally all you need https://translate.yandex.com/ocr

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>>10905532
Come on, how hard is to know
>-人 = number of people / people counter (for subs, for instance)
>男 = man
>女 = woman
>-回 = number of times (3回 = 3 times)

That’s pretty much all a numbering needs to know, along with

>十 = 10
>百 = 100
>千 = 1000
>万 = 10000

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>>10905246
a Isn't that really expensive for an album? I usually see 11-22$ for new US releases. But then again phisical media in Japan seems to be more expensive (90$ for a 2 episode blu-ray)
The 40$ lossless digital makes sense though.

b anyone have an estimate as to how much of that gets to Cover? That's the amount we'd expect the retailer to make, but they have to pay taxes 10%, then get their cut of the profit.

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>NOT TODAY, SHINIGAMI!

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>>10905817
This price (3000-3500 yen) is about average for Japanese music albums in general.

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>>10905246
10% VAT isn’t included in CDJapan’s price for obvious reasons, yeah.

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https://holo.poi.cat/stream/9pTuFS9lwGs

This getting 10k is honestly really surprising to me, especially since language learning doesn't seem like much of a draw even with stuff you'd expect to do well (duolingo etc) and there was actual competition in the slot if we assume the numbers are from Japaense viewers.

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>>10904705
This is all physical?

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>>10906548
Yes. Do we have any solid numbers for digital sales? You have to assume it would be way more than physical

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>>10906548
Physical sales only in Japan (Oricon only lists completed/shipped sales made in Japan)

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>>10906537
mori was getting bullied by thirsty chat

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https://twitter.com/oricon_ranking/status/1445501551569559560

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>>10906655
I feel like in the West album sales are much more open with exact numbers with anticipation of silver/gold/platinum being part of the culture. Is there some reason they don't just say how many copies are sold?

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>>10906655
[]Genuflect
[]Don't genuflect.

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>>10906710
It'll be announced later. wait 12 hours.

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>>10900565
why are nijimales so powerful?

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>>10906655
>https://twitter.com/oricon_ranking/status/1445501551569559560
Anyone not kneeling to this can turn their numberfag card on the exit and go back away from this thread

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>>10906710
The west love bragging about their sales I guess.
Also found this one their site

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>>10906655
>sui-chan wa arubamu demo kawaī

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>>10907137
Well guess we are about to find out how badly they underestimated the first production run on the physical albums. Anyone care to venture a guess? I don't know nearly enough about the market to put anything intelligent out there but just for fun: I'll say 25K. Japan has a weird fetish for physical goods.

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>>10898274
Didn't they already have one game in as Melody of Memories?

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>>10907792
Probably nowhere near that high. Four weeks ago Official髭男dism got the first place with 3,432 downloads for their album released in August. Three weeks ago a new release by KREVA go the first spot with 2,321 downloads. Two weeks ago a new release from Keisuke Kuwata got the first place with 5,245 downloads. Last week it took the first place again with 3,536 downloads.

I think 6k is probably the upper limit, I doubt it'll break 7k. On the other hand it must be at least a couple thousand since those other new releases must have gotten a couple thousand downloads themselves.

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>>10907792
That’s actually hard to estimate. For sure there are some people who wouldn’t buy a physical version of the album because they just prefer a digital one. It’s impossible to separate them from those who wanted to buy a physical version, were unable to and decided to at least buy the digital version. Seems like 3-4k is enough to take the first place in the digital ranking, so I’d say 5k.

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>>10908360
Does Japan really buy more cds than digital downloads? That seems unbelievable in this day and age. But apparently physical/digital is 2:1 still. How about overseas? US/EU have to generate some sales too

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>>10908450
Japan has a huge physical goods culture, it's not hard to believe.

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>>10900228
Is this some tiktok shit but Gawr Gura instead?
I guess exposure is exposure.

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>>10907015
They aren't

According to the chart they still handily lose to Hololive.

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>>10908843
Wouldn't know, I only use yt

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>>10900565
well.. back to Pre-July (or summer) numbers.

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>>10900565
>September 2020 was nijifemales highest peak
September 2021 in comparison

top 10 average

>September 2020
12,431
>Number of 10,000
9

>September 2021
8,381
>Number of 10,000
3

and thats just the top 10.

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>>10910312
Manjisanji

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Mori and gura in the same time slot, that's gonna be interesting

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>>10910312
July 2021 - August 2021

top 10 average

>July 2021
10,510
>Number of 10,000
4

>August 2021
8,764
>Number of 10,000
3

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>>10910384
Mori just gonna get her usual doom numbers, Gura another 20k stream that takes like an hour to peak as per usual.

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>>10910312
How do we save that blonde guy at the very bottom?

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top 5 (5 streams) ranking

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>>10910312
Kenmochi’s growth is impressive.

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>>10910519
We don’t. He deserves it.

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>>10910617
What did he do?

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>>10910384
Nah what is gonna make it interesting is that there's gonna be a Kronii and Mumei collab in Minecraft an hour after those 2.

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>>10910617
There's nothing wrong with winning at Mario Kart.

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>>10910312
i actually expected more from endengumi to be honest.

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>>10910669
He had his portion of drama but it’s not really important now. He’s just annoying. You should also check his previous model, this shit was abysmal.

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>>10910709
wont they make a stream reservation for that shit?

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>>10910996
Kronii and Mumei often put their frames late.

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>>10910548
Am I retarded for not knowing what exactly I'm looking at?

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>>10910548
LMAO If you're going to remove Kenmochi and Mayuzumi from the rankings due to lack of streams, you might as well remove Ayame as well since she barely has more.
I remember there was a month where Mayuzumi had a 87k median since he only streamed once and it was hype lore shit.

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>>10910928
The stuff of nightmares.

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>>10911268
what I thought you schizos said ayame never streamed

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>>10910548
this is average peak ccv accross their streams for the month? or

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>>10911423
A groundbreaking 5 streams in September, which is more than Kenmochi's 4 streams.
Ayame is BACK.

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>>10911268
anon, kenmochi is in every single other month listed because he did 5 or more streams. He finally only does 4 and gets removed when that criteria has removed Ayame far more often than him and now you get pissy?

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>>10911632
No one is getting pissy.
It's just that 5 streams in a month is still not big enough of a sample size to be meaningful imo.

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>>10911268
Mayuzumi wasn't there because he was on break.
Kenmochi only did 4 streams in September so he isn't there.

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>>10903017
>That fact alone kills any attempt at a comparison between HoloEN (any gen) and NijiEN
Oof, i hope the holo doomposter seeing this or maybe he already know but keep shitposting anyway

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>>10910928
He changed his model because the king didn't like it

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>>10911935
>>10911340
If real then based, that old model looks like fucking trash, I now recognize it in the official Virtual To Live video from Nijisanji.

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>>10911746
Just say that then?

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>>10910384
>>10910709
damn, another kino MC collab
Prediction for each pov?
Gura 20k, Mumei 9-11k, Kronii 12k

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>>10912054
im still not sure mumei and kronii are both streaming, it might be just one

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>>10912054
too high, there are also fauna, ame, mori, and later irys also streaming this night

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>>10910312
You have one that show's luna's nijsanji average?
I'm curious about that.

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>>10912054
>Kronii 12k
Way too low considering how its been a while since her last one and they were all around 20k, not to mention how much hype she's built up as a Minecraft autist through the other EN streams. Gura's presence might hamper it though so im thinking she'll get to 18k max.

Of course this also assumes Kronii will stream her pov...

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Grabbing this right before Oricon purges it.
6000 yen each.

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https://streamable.com/vbqeng

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>>10912870
Yep, makes no sense at all, but it never ceases to amuse me.

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>>10912870
The anthem of /#/

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Overlap time

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>>10913148
Elira going to start her ARK addiction.

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>>10913148
Well, all holding 1k+ with overlaps, about as well as we can expect for NijiEN atm.
I really hope they don't get rekt'd by wave 3 overlap, who knows though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10911219
>>10911430
average peak median
>>10911268
lmao mad
>>10912218
I have this. shes between honma and sasaki

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>>10907792
>>10908360
>>10908398
Here it is.
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/1aede7bab2551136c8956b2fec5ff2328e7ec471
>バーチャルYouTuber・星街すいせいの『Still Still Stellar』がダウンロード数0.4万DLを記録し初登場1位に輝きました。
4k digital sales. Combined with those 16k physical it means she broke 20k in the first week.

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>>10913305
bad decision

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>>10910312
>Lain already slipped all the way down to Selejo tier
Will Nijisanji be able to produce another Mito or Lulu ever again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10912102
>>10912253
40min to go and still no frames.. bros I'm worried now

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913424
>I really hope they don't get rekt'd by wave 3 overlap, who knows though.
just release eu primetime wave

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913537
>has the most subs in her wave but the smallest average CCV, beaten by the guy with the least amount of subs in her wave
Lack buff is crazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913537
>Will Nijisanji be able to produce another Mito or Lulu ever again?
yes by killing hololive and their female vtuber monopoly

[Anonymous No.]

>>10906135
Mori is slowly shortening the difference at a pace of 400 subscribers per day. In about 3 weeks Pekora will not be able to catch Mori anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913645
Sorry but they'll release SEA wave so they won't overlap with fellow EN but overlap with their ID and JP senpai instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913571
guess theyre just lazy

[Anonymous No.]

>>10910899
Chronoir 2 are doing well with selling merch and SC, or at least Lauren is dominating their SC gain.
Views wise they all either declined, or have fallen to their regular averages, whichever way you want to take it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913932
Oh yea, this is apparently a SEA heavy wave isn't it....
Well, best of luck to them.
Gura at 20k already. Mori on the other hand....
Man this is really out of her usual times, and being part (x) of Doom is hurting the numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913912
I doubt it. Mori got a bit a buff from her karaoke + new songs, but October is a MC month, and guess who's gonna get the largest CCVs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913451
Thanks. Looks like 1.5k average dropping down to 800 before graduating.
Nice to see she's doing way better now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914204
harder to ask who gets the second highest

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913451
LOL Luna was doing better than Kuzuha back then in the beginning

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913537
Their next batch in JP will tell. That is supposed to be their first round of talents who went through their "vtuber academy".
Regardless I don't think they particularly care since they make a lot of money from having hundreds of revenue sources (talents).

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913460
This is purely Japan? iTunes, streaming revenue, etc is not included correct?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914452
well all Niji females are atleast before the Hololive boom >>10900565

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914498
Oricon only tracks sales made in Japan, yes. Streaming has its own formula and is only counted in the integrated rankings I believe, they're not part of the digital sales numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914060
Finally! Now we get to see how many people checking out HoloEN in this packed (?) timeslot

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914498
>>10907336
Yahoo got their numbers from Oricon ahead of time to write this article (data is still not available in their portal).

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914414
I'll never for the life of me understand why NijiEn keeps overlapping their streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914414
Kuzuhas fans are neets sleeping during the daytime lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

Gura started 1hr early and had 22k peak as of now.
Owl+Clock will start in about 15mins, will they be able to mog gura? Its a cute authistic collab vs solo cute shark

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914414
Was about to give them props for hitting above 5k combined but then I saw Rosemi stopped streaming.
~4.8k people watching NijiEN
~33.7k people watching HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>10915042
Nevermind, both of them will have their POV so its inpossible to get higher peak

[Anonymous No.]

>>10915071
Mumei & Kronii are about to start as well. We'll see how well they'll do

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914998
he started streaming at like 6am completely unprompted, i don't know why he keeps doing this

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914998
He's playing with 2views he found off Twitter.
Here's one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVmvWh-pZtI
Don't know how many subs he had when beginning, it was something around 300/400 when it was first linked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10915458
didn't screenshot but iirc they were at 200 something twitter followers each before he started playing with them and now sit at 747 (girl) and 863 (guy)

[Anonymous No.]

>>10915381
sure but also some of his 12 am - 5 am streams but for some reason he has no trouble getting 20k+ at late midnight but struggling in the daytime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10915710
i think it depends when he starts as well, he was able to have a fair amount of people continue watching him until 6-7am in the past but it was for streams he had started the night before and not in the morning like this one. plus people have shit to do in weekday mornings (or are still asleep like you said).

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913460
Interestingly, Rain Drops albums had about the same physical sales last week but only 1k digital sales. The behaviour of the buyers might somewhat vary but I’d say that about 2-2.5k physical sales were lost because the album sold out at some points of the week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10915710
It's 10am now in JST, people are waking up so it's 17k now.

[Anonymous No.]

Top 5

[Anonymous No.]

Damn this retarded clock. Why is she turning off the SC!!
Gura was mogging them both tho, kinda sad to see. They have probably done better if its only on Kronii Ch

[Anonymous No.]

overlap numbers
HoloEN 46k
NijiEN 4.6k

[Anonymous No.]

>>10916734
>Gura was mogging them both tho, kinda sad to see.
They're unlikely to exceed Gura's peak, but what is the point of saying shit like this in the first 8 minutes of the stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10917073
Stop comparing NijiEN to HoloEN. HoloEN are in the context of the big boys and are seriously discussed. NijiEN are respectable numbers in certain contexts but are AA level baseball to HoloEN's major leagues.

[Anonymous No.]

50k CCV watching HoloEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10918022
>45k of that is watching Minecraft
Man I hate the EN audience sometimes.
I love holo minecraft as much as the next guy, but it's hard to argue for other games from a numbers perspective.

[Anonymous No.]

This is the funniest thing I've seen in a while.
So Oricon doesn't purge their data. They just hide the link.
Here are Mori's numbers for her latest album.

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>>10918158
I mean, let's be real, what good games that would get numbers are there right now?
One of the issues is games permissions + good streaming games is a hard combination to work with, and JP+EN server unification does mean that at least for the next month+, it's gonna be MC spam as the lead-up to another sportsfes happens too.

[Anonymous No.]

10k for both council members and they've only just gone to the jp server now while gura is sitting on 25k. Great results.

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>>10918158
At least it isn't ARK.

[Anonymous No.]

I find it pretty impressive how Mumei and Kronii are really matching in number of views, usually one is gonna take off as the bigger streamer but they are close.

[Anonymous No.]

Already beat Gura's birthday number.

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/86UdOrzFXxQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>10918353
Rust, roblox, ark

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>>10916734
Looks like she just forgot to turn them on at the start since there's some now, maybe cause her previous stream was a superchat reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10918173
>3.5k
How bad is this?

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>>10918849
Fair enough that they could try them, but did you SEE what the Ark arc did to JP numbers in the long run? It was....not pretty. It's good for short bits, but long-term it doesn't hold a candle to Minecraft.
It'd certainly be interesting for them to try Rust and Roblox though.
Gura's bled quite a few viewers over to Kronii+Mumei though, back down to 20k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904705
>>10916678
So she outsold Rain Drops and Bouquet. Holy shit.
>>10918173
Do you mind making spreadsheet for Holo music anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10919458
Fine, since that's only Japanese sales. Most of the sales were more than likely imports.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10919599
I have a spreadsheet I've been for personal use.
I have all the data I gathered for that spreadsheet the other anon posted as well.
Updated "Your Mori.", it had a sales bump a week after it dropped off ranking.
>>10919458
It's actually pretty good for Japan. They truly are a Physical > Digital country. Also reminder that Oricon doesn't count Otoytoy and Amazon music sales.

[Anonymous No.]

In 30 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNmDjU7ZE-A
more overlap

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-38bC0ZRxA
NijiEN3 trailer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10917820
>stop comparing 2 companies that are competing for the same audience
Are you perhaps, retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10920148
I wonder if HoloEN will pull out some big number collab just to siphon views again

[Anonymous No.]

>>10920148
It's not gonna have a good number unless they start paying for ads like before.

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii 14.5k
Mumei 12.9k
Gura 21.8k
Mori 2.8k
Ame 3k

55k watching HoleEN right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>10920441
If they're doing another debut song then they're gonna pay for ads for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10920148
I'm not watching that shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>10920492
You know they are, otherwise the glaring difference in views between the Lazu and Ob songs is gonna be too obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10920492
Which song they paid for ads? Lazulight? Obsydian? Or both?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10920750
both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10920750
Both. The sharp drop-off in views once they turned off the ads is pretty obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

Is paying for ads a viable strategy? Are they gonna bring in new viewership into the market or are they just wasting money?
If it is, then how much smaller NijiEN would be if they didn't had ads?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10920750
They paid for both but iirc they had Lazulight ads run 1 week longer than the Obsydia one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10920868
Despite what retards here say, paying for ads is a nice way to get your foot in the door especially for a company like Niji who is unknown in the west.

If they do pay for ads for this Wave, I can only assume that Aykara still isn't confident that NijiEN has cemented an audience of their own yet.

[Anonymous No.]

Today's superchats

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>>10920750
Both, but Black out is more popular anyways since it took around a week for it to get 1 mil (with ads), whereas it took DCL like 1 month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10920868
Yes, ads do help, but they have a limit. Stellar Cycle Campus paid for ads for months (yes, they burned shit tons of money) and got three digits CCV, but they had stopped doing so, and viewership dropped to lower two digits (inflow lower than the outflow).

[Anonymous No.]

>>10920868
because this exists

[Anonymous No.]

>Hana Flores graduation 08/15
https://youtube.com/channel/UCkvYfE6_lEmstu6GoqPUOZQ
>Marie indefinite hiatus 08/22 (+7)
https://youtube.com/c/FDMarie
>Shannon graduation 08/27 (+5)
https://youtube.com/c/LemonTeaBloops
>Lyrica graduation 09/03 (+7)
https://youtube.com/c/LyricaCh

Seems like these are Wave 3

[Anonymous No.]

>>10920868
>Is paying for ads a viable strategy?
They did it again with wave 2 so must be worth

[Anonymous No.]

>>10921079
niji yumejos jesas

[Anonymous No.]

>>10921835
They're kinda stuck having to pay for it or it would look odd if their new wave only has 100k views on a new song a few weeks out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10921835
It's not like they inclined greatly from it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10921569
Did someone already match up the voices?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10922016
Seems like both NijiEN threads mostly agree on it.
Two of them were Pomu/Elira's friends as well. That makes me think that Elira's male friend is in the male Niji wave (from what other anons say, he's not really good).

[Anonymous No.]

>>10922163
Eh, and they chew the Holos for nepotism hire.

[Anonymous No.]

Susan, please be fair and cut some Nijibots too

[Anonymous No.]

>>10922326
The debut thread is pretty funny, Nijifans are falling for every single bait post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10922344
They did cut NijiKR.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10921079
Oh I forgot about VSPO cunny's entire existence desu, oof that's a big dropoff from the 9k or so Ema got

[Anonymous No.]

NijiEN debut month numbers

LazuLight
>Elira 3,033
>Pomu 2,017
>Finana 1,730

OBSYDIA
>Selen 2,819
>Petra 2,738
>Rosemi 2,123

[Anonymous No.]

>>10921569
Which one is the gura killer here. I only know that Hana was said to be a great singer and Lyrica is a flip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10922577
Every time someone is called a "Gura killer" they're instantly cursed to be unredeemable midgets. Never change.
Dramafags could at least be a little more creative with their title.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10922577
Witch could be the biggest once word gets out that she is Flip. Flips like "supporting" other Flips. Don't think she will beat Gura though

[Anonymous No.]

>>10921569
20k debuts or bust. Obsydia barely getting better numbers than Lazu Light wasn't great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10922376
>Nijifans
It's just dramaniggers taking bait to generate more (You)s. The actual NijiEN fans usually stick to their threads. Usually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10922577
Dunno. They hired a wave of singers, Lyrica was the largest Filipino vtuber if I recall.

[Anonymous No.]

3 cunnies for 3 good singers

What is this? They're all gura killers?

[Anonymous No.]

Gura (Metroid Prime release day) / Mori (Angst Karaoke) / Irys (Little Nightmares) / Sana Members only / Bae (Maybe, Little Nightmares) will overlap NijiEN debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10923202
Do you have your schedule right? I thought Gura was placing DMC4 at that time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10922831
Kuzuha is the biggest Flip Vtuber. Get your facts straight

[Anonymous No.]

>>10922749
You gotta accept that global makes up for this entire board population, i think the maximum was 500 ip's during its height. No way that /vt/ goer can go higher than that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10923202
Not enough to have any effect. Gura fans only watch Gura IRyS fans are helpless gachikoi.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/coa/w/2021-10-11/
Weekly Oricon is out, 20793 copies sold.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10923367
Thats 10/7, 10/8 is metroid dread

[Anonymous No.]

>>10922556
Is this CCV? With all the shilling that Selen got I thought for sure that she had a monster (by NijiEn standards) debut month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898274
>>10898356
>they're dogshit cloud streaming ports
Glad I learned to stop watching Nintendo directs 2 years ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>10923545
You've got your dates wrong for the rest of them, those streams are on the 8th JST, the debut is on the 9th. The thing that might cause an overlap is the mystery collab (?) between Gura, Mori and Mumei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10923545
Friday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DyDiay4678
I honestly dont get why the schedule it on Friday instead of Saturday NA / Sunday Asia

[Anonymous No.]

>>10923523
You got it wrong, this is the Integrated weekly chart which uses the point system. Physical copies of 16117 are over here https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/w/2021-10-11/

[Anonymous No.]

>>10921569
4 failures

[Anonymous No.]

>>10923523
It's 20465 copies sold (16117 physical and 4368 digital) plus about 300 hundred streaming points. I think streaming points are 1 for every 1500 reproductions or something like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10924087
Their numbers will be 10x more than their previous lives, so in the context of numbers, not really.
Go back to baiting the announcement thread, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10923967
They are aiming for the international audience, but that's a tall order when NijiEN audience doesn't even branch out to ID, KR and JP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10921569
The time is right for Wave 3 after HoloEN 2 disappointed most of the EN audience, they should be able to attract a big audience for their debuts and win over disgruntled hololive fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10924404
>HoloEN Council debut time
BST: 6 pm - 2 am
CEST: 7pm - 3 am
day before
EST: 1 pm - 9 pm
PST: 10 am - 6 pm

NijiEN
>>10923788
EUbros... Saturday wagies...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10924175
1440 plays = 1 pt
308 points left over
443,520 stream plays
Doesn't include Spotify which is what westerners use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10923523
>>10923971
Some more data: Rain Drops sold 1553 physical copies second week. RIOT MUSIC's album sold about 1200 physical copies, placing 53th. We might need the anon's help to fetch the exact number.
>>10919825
I'm that one anon. If I understand correctly, this data here is for digital sales? Do you think you can get those for all albums and singles listed in the spreadsheet? I'll try to update it today or tomorrow, though we'll probably have to find more of those digital releases if we want to add digital sales there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10924662
Two falseflagging faggots on this board isn't gonna be a big audience I presume.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10924184
I don't think so
>115k subscribers

[Anonymous No.]

>>10922344
And so it begins again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10925002
The boss is on the move again to slap some noobs

[Anonymous No.]

>>10924818
adding 769,464 plays from Spotify
1,212,984 plays in "week 1".

[Anonymous No.]

>>10924852
The one in yellow/orange is physical. Blue/white is digital.

[Anonymous No.]

NijiEN wave 3s performance is going to be very telling in regards to how viable Anykaras strategy actually is in the EN market. We also have a bit more data thanks to Lazulight and Obsydia so we can see if they're still growing or if stagnation is starting to hit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10924662
That's what you said about IRyS but she averages more CCV and SCs than Obsydia combined.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10925710
I always get upset when I think about how much bigger she would be if she didn't have a shit model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10925685
I don't see why it wouldn't work, it's the strategy that propelled them to becoming the number one company in Japan. Hololive EN is basically just Kizuna Ai at this point waiting to be overtaken.

[Anonymous No.]

this thread is peaceful lmao meanwhile the announcement thread... Kazunigger and his gang copy pasting charts from here

[Anonymous No.]

>>10925804
It worked in Japan because the market was empty. It works to keep a stable audience and stick around but it's probably not gonna work to be #1. I really don't understand the optimism.
>>10925685
Everyone will get a debut boost. No reason to give stagnation serious thought until December. I think NijiEN is doing fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10926119
The market isn't empty and they debuted a wave in JP to success and are spamming ID and KR, and now EN. Sure they're not all getting Mito and Kenmochi numbers but they don't care it looks like, since the Anycolor method is
>make Live2D and channel
>send an iPhone
>give manager and discord
>toss them to the wind

[Anonymous No.]

>>10926119
The vtubing market wasn't empty in Japan when Nijisanji started.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10925804
Why are Nijifans all gypsy fortune tellers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10924852
I forgot about enogu’s single. It sold 1894 copies first week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10926605
They're not NijiEN fans, they are drama miners.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10926119
>market was empty
Anon-chama... the 4 kings were already active at that point...
The reason why Niji was a success in in JP was because Mito decided to not follow the pre-recorded video skits model and managed to get a sizeable audience because of that

[Anonymous No.]

>>10926807
Most of the numbers discussed in these threads are CCV and stream numbers and Nijisanji was the pioneer for streaming vtubers.
So for to that anon's point, the market was pretty empty. You wouldn't consider a upload-based vtuber to be a direct competitor to a streaming-based vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10926807
Mito did what the west had been doing for years, stream instead of make videos.

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii just passed a blue axotl in the wild lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>10927233
and she didn't see it?
Oh boy that's gonna haunt her once it gets clipped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10927319
She jumped into a random river, swam, saw the axotl dead right in its eyes. I also saw it, the chat saw it, but it took us long to process if it was a blue axotl or not. It wasn't possible for one to be in the wild. Kronii maybe doesn't know its rarity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10924662
>The time is right for Wave 3 after HoloEN 2 disappointed most of the EN audience
It was only a disappointment because of very high expectations, but not necessarily a disappointment compared to other companies. It remains to be seen how this new wave can stand out over the earlier ones. Meaning in order for it to have a big impact it has to have someone capable of higher numbers than Selen, enough to attract attention from Holos. That requires someone truly special. It’s not impossible, but it’s more likely not going to happen. In short: they need a Gura of their own, even if she didn’t start high, she would have to win over time based on word of mouth. They need a truly talented streamer to grab attention away. Possible sure, but not likely at all.
>they should be able to attract a big audience for their debuts and win over disgruntled hololive fans.
Even if I grant that, can they keep them? That is the real question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10925710
>>10925782
she's the very definition of wasted potential with her shit ass model. her personality is carrying her hard as a solo act with no gen mates

[Anonymous No.]

irys and her loyal 4k during all of these EN streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>10928022
Cursed ASMR.
She cut your ears off and tore your nails off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10927870
Sana was lowest in subs before her debut stream, showing that people do pick early based on design. I don’t know what can ever be done about it though, since they will never be able to get a completely new one. But yeah, IRyS got fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10927701
>HoloEN 2 disappointed most of the EN audience
Should've ignored it the moment you saw this.
Apart from their sub growth not being insane and mogging Holomyth, there's no numerical metric that indicates Council disappointed anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10928230
Sana is irredeemable. Her best points is in her drawings and being an artist. She doesn't do that often as flavor streams. Instead she wants to do kusoges once a week and Holoscopes. I'd rather just have another variety streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10927701
Unfortunately its all high profile indies that despite being high profile and people constantly shilling how great they are/were they didn't blow up so they aren't going to now. It's one of the downsides of niji's en strategy, they get some decent stability but not much chance of breakout stars or growing the market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10928230
You forgot to mention her thick aussie accent. Its like listening to garbled english

[Anonymous No.]

>>10927494
They're not rare in the JP server anymore though. Once you've got one you can just breed them like mad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10928669
Yeah it's not rare. But it was unreal watching it live and seeing chat going crazy after that. Kronii just ignored it. Makes for good clip moments if someone adds a "Well, hello there" to the upa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10928301
>Should've ignored it the moment you saw this.
I’m offering the ‘principle of charity’, and wanted to respond to him rationally whether he was being tribal or not.
>there's no numerical metric that indicates Council disappointed anyone.
We know people have expressed disappointment here. It’s obvious that doesn’t mean most of all, but it does include people disappointed. You cannot determine what numbers should be, only what they are currently. Success does not rule out what greater success could have been, or a poof of a complete lack of any disappointment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10929051
>people have expressed disappointment here
You mean people have been false flagging to farm (you)'s

[Anonymous No.]

>>10928871
She reacted to a blue upa earlier near the EN-JP portal, so she knows what they are. I guess she just didn't give a fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10928608
>You forgot to mention her thick aussie accent
No I did not, I’m referring to before debut, in terms of how design shows an impact on numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10929148
NTA, but I'm one of the person genuinely disappointed at Cover's scouting. What did they see in rrat that she chose her instead of any other streamer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10929051
>here
>containment board with less than 500 IPs on a good day on the most popular thread, bait threads get at most 150 IPs
If you filter out the shitposters and falseflaggers, let's say there's 100 people genuinely disappointed.
Are they significant enough to say
>HoloEN 2 disappointed most of the EN audience
is not full of shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10929051
>We know people have expressed disappointment here.
>here that is the problem you are picking a extremely small sample of vtubers fans and assuming it would extrapolate to the geeneral audience. is speculation wihtout any foundation is dumb.

on the way of numbers
https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCBURM8S4LH7cRZ0Clea9RDA/realtime
https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCR6qhsLpn62WVxCBK1dkLow/realtime
https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UC47rNmkDcNgbOcM-2BwzJTQ/realtime
https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCkieJGn3pgJikVW8gmMXE2w/realtime

Cunny design wining as alwasy Anyone has Obsidian sub numbers the first day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10929363
I believe you anon....really I do........

[Anonymous No.]

>>10929363
If you can't see the extremely obvious answer after seeing her numbers in this thread then you simply aren't ever going to get it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10929400
>If you filter out the shitposters and falseflaggers, let's say there's 100 people genuinely disappointed.
Well he said “anyone”, so my point was against the use of that wording. I was also trying to be charitable for the sake of argument. I was granting a few things to move the conversation forward.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10906655
S-s-sugoi O_O

[Anonymous No.]

EN earnings for today, $1000 for one stream except for Ame and Mumei.

Gura got $2k and Irys is on her way to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10924852
I'll get the rest tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10929446
I wasn’t making the case for a large amount of disappointed fans, rather I was granting him some disappointed fans in order to move the conversation forward. To move it to whether or not (or how) NijiEN can get big numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10929446
>Anyone has Obsidian sub numbers the first day?
Petra was leading by a wide margin, but idk the numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930074
>To move it to whether or not (or how) NijiEN can get big numbers
you are moving it to a speculation.
nothing has shown they can get out of the slump they are for now. Wave 3 would need to have some EXTREMELY high talent, but i feel it is their most rushed wave given the designs were revealed like 3 or 4months ago if i recall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10929979
>Memeshark
>3 mil subs
>only gets $2k

>EL GOBLINA
>4k viewers
>only a few hundred dollars short of beating Gura's Superchat

Why are Chumbuds so poor? Is the "All Chumbuds are little kids" rrat actually true?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930308
All their money went to buying overpriced nendriods from scalpers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930192
The fox should be a good talent though. I saw that she's a good singer on top of being fluent in JP/ES. Kinda like Irys. Whether or not her personality can carry her on streams, we don't know yet but it's still going to be sub <4k anyway even if they sing great during debut. They still don't have Hololive's level of exposure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10929979
Can't wait for IRyS to have a new outfit and she will be Nene En

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930030
Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930192
>nothing has shown they can get out of the slump they are for now.
Well I think it’s unlikely, but not impossible.
>Wave 3 would need to have some EXTREMELY high talent
That was my point to him. It’s what it would take to keep them there after some check them out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930030
so suisei's album will be #3 best selling vtuber album ever?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10929446
NijiEN2
Hour 1:
Trailer: 16,305 views
Twitter: 5,344likes
Rosemi: 2.85k subs
Selen: 2.84k subs
Petra: 2.92k subs

24hr
Trailer: 253k
Twitter: 7.7k likes 119k views
Rosemi: 16.1k
Selen: 16.4k
Petra: 18k

48hr
Trailer: 454k
Twitter: 8k likes 126.3k views
Rosemi: 19.9k
Selen: 20k
Petra: 23k

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930421
they are aslo very afraid of unarchived so they need to show their skill witha anime songs mostly and they wont have a orignal single like mori had or kroni and mumei are working on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930580
I hope you're keeping track of NijiEN3's numbers. I'll be interesting to see the growth.

>>10930632
> they wont have a orignal single like mori had or kroni and mumei are working on.
All NijiEN groups have a group debut song so technically, they'll have it before Kronii and Mumei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10929979
Huh, that's interesting. IRyS said that she is new and still learning ASMR (just got her ASMR mic recently), which is reflected properly on her CCV (~4.5-4.7k, which is a few thousands lower than her average). I didn't expect her to get that much SC for this stream.
I will watch her archive later, but was there something special?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930705
>All NijiEN groups have a group debut song
It doesn't show their individual singing strength though

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930580
Did they beat ankimo on their debut or not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930789
iirc 2 of them didn't. One of them did, but I forgot who, maybe petra.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930759
There were like 5 other ENs streaming with big streams and she started last so low numbers were expected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930632
To sing unarchived EN songs, they'll need to drop their non-white accent, which is hard to do. Only Pomu has a white voice.
Asian voice sounds better when they sing
Asian songs (ex: Kronii, IRyS, Baelz, Elira).

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930789
Nope

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930705
Elira should've make one for her debut, that will skyrocket her growth, but instead have to carry two not so good singer on her wave on group song

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930483
Yes. It is the first week though, it has pretty good chances to get the second place later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930789
yeah
>>10930580
twitter seems better but not sure about social balde show what it was some hours before but shows as 1.1k for them

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930852
has nothign to do with their accents. They say they dont want to do unarchived becasue permissions

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930846
>>10930867
Ah, ok it's interesting to see if their 3rd wave can do it, that will show actual growth for the nijiEN on EN vtubing scene

[Anonymous No.]

News: The last minute collab being organized to overlap the NijiEN Gen 3 debut is a Dead By Daylight collab between Mumei, Mori, IRyS and Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>So... this is tourney king without tourney...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931003
We'll see the EN vtuber not singing English song shitpost again aren't we?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10928468
I still find it kind of hilarious that she seems dedicated to kneecapping her numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931067
OUCH oof

Mumei and Gura would get all the views though

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931067
>wave 3 debut
>Dead by daylight
Coincidence? I think not!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908843
Anon, you're missing out

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ankha-zone/videos

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931067
friday ngiht is a terrible time for debuts. most burgers are outside now that coof restrictions are lessen.
Should have been satturday

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931132
what's her endgame here? To see what is the lowest holoEN number can get? cultivating gachi?? I don't know anymore bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931067
Oh no no no
Numberfags gonna have a field day with this

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931067
They should add one more member. 4-survivors collab is not good since the killer would snipe the streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931272
Wouldn't say it'd be a field day though. Mori and Irys would be used as baits for not beating debut numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931297
Apparently there might be a 5th member, but nothing about the collab is finalized other than what day it's on. But considering the members it'll obviously be around NA primetime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931297
Is hard tonkeep track of 4 survivors. Anyway it has worked before as we saw with roboco, anya, and gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931249
Just stream for fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931390
The 5th member is Pekora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931132
She doesn’t care about numbers as much as doing what she wants to do. Not good for a number thread, but probably good for her in general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931272
4-person split POV for a dead game that Gura didn't do spectacular last time won't be that big of a "mogging", assuming this wave of Nijis get in the 18-20k debut range.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931249
She is like botan but for kusoges. The girl also got 10k with mc so has little tonworry about her ceiling is still big enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931497
Nigga is not about mogging is that it will take people away from their debuts. And as said before friday night for burgers are already a debuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931497
>4-person split POV for a dead game that Gura didn't do spectacular last time won't be that big of a "mogging"
The last time Gura played this game it was with Roboco, Anya and Risu. This trio she's collabing with is clearly more of a draw in every single way.

[Anonymous No.]

Since we numberfag music now
https://twitter.com/Billboard_JAPAN/status/1445601113768488960

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931471
Ex 40k then

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931497
>didn't do spectacular in last time
>last DBD stream got her 28k
what

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931664
10420 digital sales according to Oricon. 4th place in the weekly chart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931497
Its been a pretty strong game numbers wise for Gura though since she is actually really good at it. We will see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931848
shhh apparently this is opinion thread we don't do numbers here

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930853
Oh, I expected her CCV to be low. I was just wondering why her SC is actually above her average. Was wondering if she did anything special during her ASMR stream since I wasn't watching
(and, not number-related, when I just switched over to her stream just now, I heard her whispering how she had ramen at 3:00AM...)

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931659
>>10931848
>>10931939
> Roboco collab June 20th. 18k peak.
> 28k peak DBD stream ??? Link pls.
> Actual last DBD stream was Aug 27. 17k peak.
Did you guys even look up the numbers? It was scuffed since she couldn't find any matches.

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/19Zze0UrLQ4

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931919
Ayame’s single is also in the weekly top20 chart. 2878 digital sales for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931390
Are we finally getting the Bahroo collab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931992
Aren't ASMR streams always higher SCs though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10932021
...So yeah, you don't expect her to do much better numbers in a collab with bigger Holos and non-scuffed games? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931848
Nta, but it's the one where she was sick and cut the gameplay short since matchmaking were taking too long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931919
>>10932055
Could you post a pic just for archive purposes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931848
>last DBD stream got her 28k
>the 28k peak DBD stream was May 28th.
Gura has played DBD 6 times since then.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/HGJJfAqcZJw

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931497
>4-person split
>Ina will not be here

[Anonymous No.]

>>10932021
Obviously I didn't count that because the issue was server side and not the streamer herself.

Unless you mean this collab will also have the servers shitting itself

[Anonymous No.]

>>10932080
Do they? DESU, I don't know. I rarely paid attention to each stream's SC, but that anon's Hololyzer's SS caught my interest. If that's the norm, that's fine then

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930852
>Pomu
>White

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930705
it's still hilarious to me seeing niji hiring these high profile producers like giga and mafumafu for ENs and their songs still can't incline without ads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10932090
>in a collab with bigger Holos
You said it yourself, she's going to be splitting viewers with 3 other ENs.
Is she going to get 20k? Likely, but that's not "much better" than 17k. It's just another day for her.
If you think she's going to get 30k in a DBD collab with 3 people overlapping then idk what to say.

>>10932176
That collab wasn't even the last time if you don't count the Aug 23 one.
She's played twice since then and done better than the collab both times, but these are July numbers.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/Qa7WRAfGIQg
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/mh5yIIF3yGw

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931205
I was actually expecting them to have a JP/EN Server Merge Celebration or MarioKart (All EN+Omega).
Seems Hololive Management didn't put any effort.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10932324
The guy they're getting for the new wave isn't as big as those two but he has history with Nijisanji, he made the Gibara remix. And I don't think Mafumafu isn't hard to get since he has a connection to Nijisanji too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10932407
It's up to the girls if they want to throw a party for it, JP management rarely goes beyond providing suggestions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10932407
Management only put a deadline (Sept 30).
Kiara organized the big portal area push but she was on vacation when management actually decided to link them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931664
what am i looking at here i don't see suisei, that's all the japanese that i know

[Anonymous No.]

>>10932521
That's for singles

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931992
She did hit 5k though which is higher than the others who were going up against the Minecraft streams. I really think IRyS has some serious potential to incline hard like Nene with a redesign/new outfit as long as its cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10932407
A week's worth of buffed "Exploring the EN server!" HoloJP collabs like Kronii and Mumei did today are worth more than 1 clusterfuck of an event where 30 people clog up and lag the server like during Usaken fes.

The heaviest numberweights like Pekora and Gura are already familiar with both servers before the portal was finished so there's not much of a novelty buff for them anyways. Like "yay big celebration to enter a server I just streamed in last week!" would be kinda forced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10932394
Explain to me again how these are bad numbers for Gura. Also, I don't expect the others to get a bulk of the views since we don't know how good they are at the game, bar maybe IRyS who has said she plays it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10932975
>didn't do spectacular last time =/= bad
Spectacular for Gura is 25-30k for a regular stream. Below 20k is eh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10932521
kuzuha number won

[Anonymous No.]

>>10928230
It made her start low but her stream choices didn't help make her situation get better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10929291
Are you actually sure it was from the wild? With how much structures and farms the girls built, it could have just been a pond one of them made for it since I didn't see any other axolotl around it and they just haven't gotten to making it have a fancy place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10932589
Yeah, IRyS has massive potential. To be honest, at first I didn't care much for her model, but I actually like it now after watching her for a while. She's pretty much S-Tier in my opinion, great voice, great singing, great at talking, etc. Not sure why some people were calling her a "failure". Her 12 most recent monetized streams shows she is doing pretty well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10933692
Carried by personality. The same way rhombus gura works. Designs doesn't get you that far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10933692
i feel bad for her, hell if she used her old model she'd probably be on the same level as kronii and mumei

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931390
Might get higher if they pick Kronii or Ame for yuribait. If its Kiara though well numbers gonna go lower.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10933692
The debuff from that design is so fucking unreal, she should have joined NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>10933810
Design only wins you the initial appeal. You have to work to keep that audience afterwards.
>>10933988
Kronii was already in it, Irys was the maybe i thought

[Anonymous No.]

>>10933692
>listening to baitniggers
ohh anon... Model is fixable too

[Anonymous No.]

>>10934032
>Kronii was already in it
It's Mumei/Mori/IRyS/Gura with a possible 5th member so they can do a full lobby, Kronii isn't involved so far as we know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10934003
And get a bigger debuff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931067
damn, going straight for the throat

[Anonymous No.]

>>10934073
We have to wait for two years huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>10934099
I was kind of hoping that was going to be the full Myth+Council+IRyS Mario Kart stream. THAT would be going for the throat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10934003
yeah, so instead of getting 10k viewers for her karaoke streams she could get 3k instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>10933692
$30k+ in 12 streams wtf not bad at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>10934149
Kiara is the only one in EN that organizes those large collabs and shes busy with other collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10934190
A lot of buff streams in those 12, but good for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931848

[Anonymous No.]

>>10934149
I'm going to be honest, a 5 man HoloEN collab with at least a few heavy hitters is more than enough to bury a NijiEN debut. They don't need to go THAT far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10934149
nah those should be annually like the holo cup. HoloEN smashbros would be better or any fighting games

[Anonymous No.]

>>10933810
Ayame did get carried by her model tho.
Yeah she is entertaining and can sing well but her streaming habits should've put her to Matsuri tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>Reine getting over 2k for a game stream
I know it's minnow news, but I'm happy for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10919599
>So she outsold Rain Drops
She outsold Rain Drops' third album with her debut album, learn the difference (and their debut album sold at least 3186 copies)

[Anonymous No.]

>>10934713
*3186 digital copies
16645 physical copies first week, 23133 copies overall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10934325
You seem to think Ayame in the past 3 months was how she always is, when she's been streaming for 3 years now.

[Anonymous No.]

It's pretty funny how the same 3 streams are used as bait, but for opposite reasons.
One shitting on council and one shitting on Gura when getting 45k on overlap is nuts for EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935057
The Nijisquad is on full force since the announcement of new gen. They will try everything to make Hololive look bad, but they don't know the new gen will have to compete with the same 2-3k core audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935057
Lots of baits especially the anon who used Kuzuha's BoTW against Gura and Mumei. Felt like biting with Pekora's 70k FF stream, but he would've opened the 144k stream and it'll get to nowhere.

[Anonymous No.]

Meanwhile, in other short news

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935358
Yeah, the Nijiniggers on this board are going full schizo. Its quite funny to see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935379
>144k number
The very counter for 144k shitpost

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935440
This and Gura prank call video are propelling Gura forward again. Not to mention the Sora announcement is helping 2snack's video gain massive views. I swear everything in the universe is helping Gura right now and it's not funny anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/g/83693464
Twitch source code and earnings got leaked

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935562
oof juicy drama

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935533
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935379
The thing is, Kuzuha's first BoTW stream getting 40k is very impressive.
I'm not sure if even Pekora can get that for BoTW.

The retarded part is comparing Mumei or any Holo/Niji to that since they're not even in the same weight class. It's like using Gura numbers to shit on NijiEN.
There's literally only 2-3 vtubers in the world that can get 40k+ playing BoTW.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10934886
Anon, she's even worse when she started. She even gets a lot of hate

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935636
This board literally does not count, and her viewership says otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935628
If Pekora even plays BOTW, isn't it a little bit too late?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930030
Would be great if you could also sort it by overall sales to prevent posts like >>10930483

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/g/83691438

Massive Twitch leak on /g/, relevance to /#/ is that creator payouts all the way back to 2019 also got leaked, could be interesting to see just how much certain Twitch based vtubers are making.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935654
I'm the one who said she's been streaming for 3 years, but this anon isn't wrong.
I meant Ayame has spurts where she does stream regularly, mostly Apex back then. However, she did get hate from nips for being "lazy" since the beginning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935701
I don't trust that link.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935677
It is and she won't have the novelty buff that helped Kuzuha get to 40k too for the first stream.
His BoTW streams since then have still been good numbers (28k), but it's not breaking 30k anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935757
just use a vpn you pussy

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935701
>128GB
Yeah, I'm not downloading that shit but if any ambitious anon wants to do it you should drop the amounts for vtubers

Vshojo
Sakura Miko
Other big non-vshojo indies
and DarkSydePhil for the lulz

[Anonymous No.]

>>10932120

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935853
Go ask in the thread, there's someone posting earnings in september

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935853
I'm downloading the revenue CSV's, I was planning on putting together a list once I'm done.

Or you can do this >>10935911

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935853
>silvervale
$34.137 on September

>ironmouse
$51.948 on September

>veibae
$31.080 on September

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935958
CMIIW, this is their earnings from bits and subs right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10936007
I would assume that yes. Donations are usually done through 3rd parties like streamlabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935958
So is this more or less than HoloEN or NijiEN?

[Anonymous No.]

Yesterday, some anon asked how the Aqua Umapyoi Densetsu cover is doing and the general consensus was it was doing pretty good to get 350k views on the first day.

Now, we're at around 2.5 days and 681k views is very good.
This is going to hit 1 mil within a week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10934251
This one is a bit disingenuous since the game wasn't working at all so it was more like a zatsudan

[Anonymous No.]

>>10936080
It's not bad at all, but I was honestly expecting it to be one of the best performing Holo covers ever considering the song/performers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10936080
Yeah, after Reflect and Gura KING everybody expects songs to hit 1 million in half a day. Those songs are outliers because of Gura's massive fanbase. Aqua's song is doing VERY well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10936080
Interesting to note if this hits 1 million in a week, which it almost certainly will, this song will break Gura/Calli KING's streak of 4 weeks at #1 on the weekly song video that comes out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935958
Earning more than NijiEN yikes

[Anonymous No.]

>>10936080
Current fastest Holo covers to reach a million, just to contextualize

KING (Gura and Mori) - 11 hours (36m)
Roki (Mori Calliope) - 2 Days (0h 26m)
Goodbye Sengen (Nakiri Ayame) - 2 Days (14h 51m)
Hololive Ochame Kinou (All members) - 3 Days
GETCHA! (Suisei and Mori) - 4 Days (1h 45m)
KING (Nakiri Ayame) - 5 Days
Goodbye Sengen (Minato Aqua) - 5 Days
KING (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 5 Days
Goodbye Sengen (Takanashi Kiara) - 6 Days (18h 37m)
Sorairo Days (Matsuri and Gura) - 7 Days
Goodbye Sengen (Uruha Rushia) - 8 Days (17h 6m)
Fansa (Kiryu Coco) - 8 days (18h 0m)
Vampire (Minato Aqua) - 10 days
Turing Love (Moona and Pekora - 10 Days (0h 24m)

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935958
Hard to believe that they make less than a hundred bucks a month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10936210
i mean that's a given, why are you surprised?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10936036
Depends if the anon made a typo or not, is it a coma or is it a fullstop. $51k for ironmouse is a bit unreal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10936210
They also have more viewers than NijiEN so why is it a yikes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10936210
NijiEN has always a distant third in the market, I don't know why you're surprised unless you've been drinking too much of the 4chan kool aid and think nijiEN is a direct competitor to HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>10936393
It makes sense, she has about 11k subs on twitch which would be about $2.50 per sub considering the 50% that twitch takes out. Then twitch monthly payouts also include bits cheered and ad revenue. Seems realistic to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10936533
If those are the payouts w/o direct donations, then how much does a Holo earn when their ccv gets to above 10k at most times? Does YT pay their streamers better with their ads/members than Twitch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10936652
Youtube takes a flat 30% from everything so you actually earn more with youtube memberships but less with superchats compared to bits. Youtube takes the 30% for superchats from the streamer while twitch adds the extra charge for bits to the buyer so the streamer gets 100% of bits cheered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935958
hmm, seeing mori earning $64,921 last month WITHOUT adding memberships, holoEN is not lacking in money either, but we got to account the cover cut as well. Then again vshojo's numbers here also didn't include any streamlabs donations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10936533
That's almost the same as Gura, which is kinda crazy. On YT, she'll probably get 2m subs (the YT kind) easily.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQL3sX9mbJc

Suisei is a girl after my own numberfag heart, she's doing a stream to celebrate her Oricon rankings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10936731
Yeah Vshojo might be earning more since they don't have to worry about the Cover cut, but make no mistake. Even with the Cover cut these girls are all still rolling in cash, lol. They are all rich.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10936736
You can't compare Twitch subs with Youtube members because Amazon gives them out like candy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10936533
>>10936736
Bear in mind that this is the ENTIRE twitch payout, whereas we only get access to the superchats from youtube's end that leaves out memberships, youtube premium, and ad revenue

[Anonymous No.]

>>10936785
oh yeah, i forgot about the ads and premium, that's potentially HUGE. but the twitch one didn't include streamlabs donations either though.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, if VShojo earns that much from <10ks, then how much Anykara earns from the cuts of 100+ livers. The fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10936842
Yeah, I'm willing to bet that none of the vshojo girls don't come anywhere close to what Gura makes since Gura is an anomaly. I'd bet they make about the same or more than the rest of HoloEN though.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh, hey, it's that time again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_89otvkb1EA

[Anonymous No.]

>>10936896
Nijisanji only put much of their efforts into NijiJP because that's where their money makers are. The other branches only get the barebone of support so I think the money made back should be good enough to sustain themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/_89otvkb1EA
https://youtu.be/_89otvkb1EA
https://youtu.be/_89otvkb1EA
It's that time of the week again

[Anonymous No.]

>>10936904
Gura and Mori is maybe in the mid to high tier twitch streamer earnings. Someone like asmongold earns around 8 figures like Holos/Nijis should just jump into twitch by now.

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oh wow that UMISEA song views already dropped hard huh?

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Wait what the fuck this is a remix released on Ayame's channel, this counts?

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>>10936999
He also streams way more hours though yea? That's something we need to consider that most Holo and Niji chubbas aren't streaming 40+ hours a week.

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>Suisei
>Mori
>Suisei
>Mori
>Suisei
>Mori

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>>10935958
Looking at /g/'s streamer payouts

This 3 vtubers earn more than a lot of streamer there. What the fuck.

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>>10937156
Being a Hololive member is a lucrative career. But other than that, vtuber is still not making enough to compete with anyone.

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>36M vods views
>170k USD
Can we use these numbers to estimate holo's vods earning?

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10 million baby

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>>10936978
>>10936991
Wait did something happen with Mori recently, her songs are getting unusually high views this week

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>>10937290
I should get into the streaming business...

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Too damn strong... it hasn't even been a week yet.

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>>10937324
Mori's whole discography gets a boost whenever she releases a new song, since whenever she releases new stuff it has a tendency to recontextualize older songs.

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>>10937324
Oh right, End of a life released

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>>10937324
She dropped a new song so people probably checked out her old stuff too.

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15. Off with Their Heads - Mori
14. Blue Rose - Suisei
13. Live Again - Mori
12. DEAD BEATS - Mori
11. Next Color Planet - Suisei
10. TGRIALS - Mori
9. Rainbow - Watame
8. Bully - Mori
7. Unison - Marine
6. REFLECT - Gura
5. Red - Mori
4. RIP - Mori
3. Ghost - Suisei
2. Homenobi - Noel
1. End of a Life - Mori

I'm surprised that more of Suisei's discography didn't get a boost from SSS, seemed like only Ghost caught a new wind.

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>>10937359
Mori already had 2 songs over 10 million (RIP, Dead Beats) and considering her old songs are still picking up good views she will soon have 3 more songs over 10 million (Off with their heads, Live Again, Red).

That is kind of insane for a vtuber.

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>>10937456
>2. Homenobi - Noel
kek, one of these is not like the others

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>>10937503
It's pretty good

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>>10937503
It won't stay like the Suisei and Mori songs but considering Noel's reputation with singing the fact that it would have been #1 if Mori didn't drop a new song is very impressive for her. Congrats Noel.

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>>10937503
Compared to what you'd expect from a Noel original, it's actually pretty listenable.

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>>10937513
Ame should take notes.

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>>10937513
>>10937538
>>10937539
I’m jesting but Noel clearly worked hard and improved along the time for this song