Matsuri

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any way to save Matsuri from herself? Back in the day, I used to watch her a lot, but seeing her gradual descent into a menhera is honestly pretty depressing. Is there no hope for her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895765
Only Matsuri can save Matsuri, and Matsuri doesn't seem to want to save Matsuri.

[Anonymous No.]

Euthanize her

[Anonymous No.]

It's over

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895765
It's honestly really sad to go back and watch her old 2018/2019 stuff, what went so fucking wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895765
whats wrong with matuli?

[Anonymous No.]

I can save her
In all seriousness, you can't help her if she doesn't want to help herself. Getting too attached to someone like that will just drag you down with them

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895765
After trying to stab and murder her own mother, I doubt there’s anything worth saving. At this point, we’re just waiting for her to either murder her brother when he gets a girlfriend, or commit murder-suicide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895927
>Be Matsuri
>Fall in love with a girl that likes dick
>Constantly rejected by her
>Cry on twitcasts and make such a huge drama to a point some people start hating your love interest because your menhera attacks
>Talk to a bartender
>Send a lot of marshmallows and superchats to him
>Get drunk and tell him you want him to be your big brother and take baths with you
>Get ignored and rejected by him
>Get completely outclassed by a tomboy with a sexy onee-san voice
>Meet a qt 3.14 pro apex player
>Actually get him to coach you
>The tournament is your chance to impress him and win him over
>End up tilting and your team ends 19/20 only because the other team was memeing with controllers
>Cry and suffer the whole time
>Met another qt in the after games, a spaghetti spilling weatherman
>You actually try to be seiso instead of the degenerate everyone is used to
>Have the time of your life
>He never calls you back
>Find a princess that loves you back
>She calls you when you were depressed after the apex shitshow
>She values and depends on you a lot
>When she gets sick instead of helping her you go back to confess your love to the dick loving girl
>Fall into an endless APEX obsession
>Your viewers tell you to bring some variety and that they are tired of APEX
>Instead of improving you take a break playing more APEX
>Return from break and keep on doing APEX streams
>Fans actually start leaving you
>Start to argue with antis on twitter to later delete everything
>Meanwhile your dick loving love interest is having the best time with a retarded australian
>Despite all of this you keep on streaming APEX, and it seems everything is going fine
>Then a Shark appears
>The Shark puts a trident in your ass and starts buttfucking you
>You start bleeding viewers
>You end up loving it and ask for Gen 5, Korone and Pekora to buttfuck you the next day
>Do a collab with a gook
>Despite being hyped up and having your fox senpai to help you, you still can't make over 5k
>That collab also brings a curse to this land
>get buttfucked in the next days by a detective with brain damage and an autistic reaper
>Boys and girls from all branches are having fun and teetee
>you're alone, playing APEX
>Eventually you decide to stop being an autist and join the minecraft server
>You can't even recognise some of your kouhais
>All of the girls except EN are playing Minecraft together
>EN girls are having collabs together and interacting with each other and her senpais
>All of the boys are playing among us together
>All of them are having fun
>You're alone, lamenting your existence on twitter and crying yourself to sleep
>There's a Yathzee tournament coming
>It's your chance to make a harem with all past love interests
>Dedicate a stream to practice it, alone.
>Tournament happens, you are doing fine
>Suddenly the princess appears, and she's on a warpath
>She utterly destroys your hopes and dreams
>At some point she feels bad about you and tries to throw, but still manages to buttfuck you
>Your dreams of a harem are dead
>Later because of this and much more, you start having menhera attacks and suicide bait on your alternate twitter account
>The menhera attacks are getting stronger, you end up trying to assault a squid in front of her fans
>FRUS TRA TION IS GETTING BIGGER
>You find your kouhais, a CEO, another menhera and a mom
>You want the mom
>BANG BANG BANG PULL MY MENHERA TRIGGER
>The CEO is trying to befriend you but you, as a good menhera, take this as a personal attack and ignore her
>Mommy turns you down politely
>You keep on screaming and attention whoring until you leave without saying goodbye
>Your fanbase is also full of menheras that pretend to be happy but use alternate accounts to have the menhera attacks
>You look for those accounts and reply to them, making some of them delete their accounts
>As the menhera attacks get worse, your roommate makes a stream
>Despite all the makeup and filters, your roommate can't hide her eyebags, a sign of someone who crearly cries herself to sleep
>In a bold claim, you go and say that if the fans don't like APEX they can go eat shit.
>Shortly after go into a break
>Your stalker, that for some reason you thought it was a good idea to make a mod in your channel, thinks that's because of your fanbase
>Your fanbase start to attack each other
>You have to come out and admit that a friend died so they stop fighting between each other
>Meanwhile the princess is having her birthday
>You prepared a cover that you promised months ago
>You retweet it SEVEN times
>You send an aka supacha
>She doesn't mention it
>Not a single holo acknowledges the video
>Have a menhera attack on your roommate account
>Your fans start pestering the princess because of your own stupidity
>Have to make an apology and explanation on your roommate account
>The princess finally acknowledges you
>But to this day she didn't like your video

[Anonymous No.]

>>10896181
this is ancient, i want to know the current matsuri. for the record luna and matsuri are now in good terms and eat together a lot on the way home holding hands.

[Anonymous No.]

Excerpt from Fubuki's leaked diary:
>It's March. I'm in Tokyo, being introduced to Natsuiro Matsuri, the cheerleader. She works for Cover now. I suppose I do, too.
>Matsuri is interesting. I have never met anyone so deliberately amoral.
>She suits the streaming business: the madness, the pointless outbursts...
>As I come to understand vtubing and what it implies about the human condition, I also realize that few people will permit themselves such an understanding.
>Matsuri's different.
>She understands perfectly...
>... and she doesn't care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10896219
Not him but here:
>For years, tell all your fans you're a lonely virgin who was bullied in school for being fat in order to maximize simp bucks.
>Sexually harass your coworkers, but they don't mind that much because you're a self professed virgin loser who's just lonely and in need of physical contact and so are seen as mostly harmless.
>Some guy on twitter keeps telling people he made it with you so you freak out on your roommate account and tell everyone you haven't had a boyfriend in over 4 years, exposing your lie about being a virgin.
>Cry on stream while being princess carried to masters by predators in APEX.
>Spend hundreds of thousands of yen (several $1000) on akasupas for some random dude's youtube channel.
>Ask Coco for her Line contact info, only for her to respond, "Ew, gross".
>The drama with Haachama is some of the worst interpersonal drama in Hololive history only because you made it public in the most unprofessional way possible.
>Constantly flirt with male collab partners in front of your viewers, regularly telling them you'll send them nudes if they want them.
>Literally in the middle of saying "I haven't had a boyfriend for over four yea-" THE HAND appears. You make up the most obvious lie possible, but are still willing to needlessly worry your most loyal and gullible fans.
>Despite all of this, you're never once punished by Hololive management and instead are featured in more and more promotions, which probably only means one thing.
>People realize that guy on twitter from earlier in the year was probably telling the truth and was actually some guy she had a one night stand with.

Also, we'll never know for sure, but at this point is there any doubt that she's the reason why Kaoru had to leave?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895974
Sadly, this guy is right. Matsuri is the perfect example of a girl that will drag herself down whatever you might be trying. I have no idea why she's like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10896663
I’m out of the loop. What happened between her and Haachama?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10897489
haachama couldnt appear on her birthday 3d but was able to attend someone else's 3d and it made her jealous

[Anonymous No.]

>>10896663
>Literally in the middle of saying "I haven't had a boyfriend for over four yea-" THE HAND appears. You make up the most obvious lie possible, but are still willing to needlessly worry your most loyal and gullible fans.
did she follow through on moving to a new place after this or just never mentioned it again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10897489
Haachama can't attend matsuri 3d birthday stream because she have exams at collage.
Then haachama appear on other holomems birthday.
This made matsuri seething and tweets about it on her roommate account. Then people point out that it was prerecorded was befor haachama have her exams. Then she delete the tweets. She's only have herself to blame, if she bother to check haachama schedule haachama would record it for her birthday.

[Anonymous No.]

If even Suisei can't save her I don't know who can. At least she didnt abandon Matsuri like her other used to be close friends.

[Anonymous No.]

What does Matsuri want to do in all honesty. Supposedly she wants to be an idol, in a traditional sense aka pure seiso and virgin, yet she goes against that with her neverending hornyness for any walking being on the planet.
Even when she goes against it, she still wants to have that image and still panders to GFE, she is still saying "I love you" after every aka supacha.
She promised she won't let apex take over her idol activities, yet apex always ends up taking most of her stream hours, with other streams barely lasting more than 1 hour.
She wants to support all members of holopro yet she seems to be in her own world distanced from the girls, does questionable shit that if not handled properly can lead to trouble to the boys. At this point I don't blame anyone that avoids collabing with her.
And it's obvious she has some power on the upper scales since she faces almost no repercution from management compared to other holos when they fuck up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10897819
Suisei is a stacy.
She didn't give a fuck about other girl problem.
Pekora and miko is not in speaking term? Fuck it, let's hijack pekora mario cart stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10897749
>>10897685
I mean I knew Matsuri was schizo but this is something else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895765
She just needs a cute girlfriend who devotes all her time to her and make her feel alive again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895765
>her gradual descent into a menhera
>gradual descent

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895765
I hope she streams only on her rommate. I hate 2D so fucking much

[Anonymous No.]

You can't, Matsuri can only be saved by self destruction once she cracks then you hope she reforms

[Anonymous No.]

>>10897749
I don't know if youre misinformed or are trying to bait newfags.

Yes she did make a bunch of tweets about it. She fucked up on that regard. But shortly after she handled everything nicely. She contacted management for an explanations and got in contact to haato's manager and haato herself. Cleared up the misunderstanding and apologized to all parties involved. All the tweets are still there she never deleted anything.

>She didnt say anything related to haato on her roommate account. It was about one of her fans that died that she was talking about. The guy with the cancer that built a minecraft memorial to her. Shortly before the haato tweets happened she visited there on her matsuri account and left a comment.

>You also forgot to mention the fact that haato agreed to this in the first place and ghosted matsuri for a while. Haato isnt to blame for the whole tweet fiasco but you conveniently left that out didnt you.

You can confirm all this yourself if you dont believe me. I'm a bit tired at seeing Matsuri's yabs get progressively worse because people ommit and add small details.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898011
It's a completely one-sided account that leaves out anything that reflects negatively on Haato. It's kind of disturbing to think that people actually base their image of Matsuri on /vt/ antis and copypastas, menhera though she may be.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898442
>Blaming the victim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10897923
Its Mario Party you retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898029
>She just needs a cute girlfriend
Regardless if it was "acting" or not, Matsuri destroyed every close interactions she had with any girl. And she keeps playing the "god you're so disgusting... call me a bitch again please" with every guy she's interacting with.
Of course you technically cannot prove that it's how she is behind the avatar too, but that still is the behavior of a girl with huge mental issues. Girl literally keeps on destroying her own happiness routes.

[Anonymous No.]

She keeps fucking herself over, its puzzling really, the only way she can save herself is by stop being a bitch and face her own demons, or else she'll keep focusing on dead end addictions to obscure her real problems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895765
Either your the other anon or you plagiarized because earlier an anon used similar wording to explain this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895907
Attention from the internet ruins people

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899049
But how does someone get that far?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895765
Matsuri doesn't need saving. She's great. Just before her time.

[Anonymous No.]

how long until Matsuri starts doingJAV

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899049
She threatened her mother with a knife before she was even a vtuber, never mind a famous one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899255
Yeah, but the mother tried to separate Matsuri from her little brother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899185
Anon…

[Anonymous No.]

>>10896181
>>10896663
I'm 90% sure this has to be some rrat, but that's pretty brutal

[Anonymous No.]

>>10896425
lmao nice one

[Anonymous No.]

>>10900169
That’s the depressing part, Matuli here are 100% real,

[Anonymous No.]

>>10897685
Rushia is actually very nice to her workmates and has a good reputation. Matsuri probably didn't think Haachama would say no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10896425
is this watchmen? I forgot what the original was supposed to be

[Anonymous No.]

>>10900539
This. As much as her doxx no one hates her, as she gets along with anyone she collabbed with, and she put a lot of effort into her streams, whether it's fake or not

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895765
she unironically started selling her ass photos

[Anonymous No.]

>>10900541
Rorschach about the Comedian

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899255
i keep on hearing about this shit, can i get info?

[Anonymous No.]

>Menhera
>add Apex
Mine break

[Anonymous No.]

>>10900683
>whether it's fake or not
It's not, stop painting Rushia with the same brush because of some retarded decisions in the past. Rushia's life is pretty well documented, most of which comes from her own mouth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10901097
This one was confirmed even, she and her mother are apparently really similar and Matsuri had a "rebellious phase" during her teens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0uMokSFTBI

[Anonymous No.]

>>10901097
Too lazy to google it myself but she basically shared a story of her when she got mad at her mom and pulled a knife on her. Her mom, in response, pulled some scissors.
Yes, those 2 women are unironically insane. Which might explain why her brother always tried to keep low whenever he was around on stream. I'm genuinely curious to know what kind of man her dad is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10901251
The brother is scared of Matsuri. Doesn’t help that she also bullies him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10901047
source

[Anonymous No.]

>>10897685
>>10900539
Ok this is getting out of hand.
For more detail, the Rushia duet Haachama was in was recorded months prior to Rushia's live.
Matsuri asked Haato to appear in her 3D live and she initially said yes, around this time.

Stuff happened, Coco announced her graduation, Haachama her indefinite hiatus and told Matsuri she won't be appearing in the 3D live anymore.
After July 2nd Haachama stopped replying to anyone for office related stuff.
Matsuri recorded her live around this time.
Ruhia's came out later and Matsuri had an episode seeing Haachama in it.
Haachama still ghosting everyone for work stuff at this point. Basically wanted to silently graduate.
Had a talk with Coco and Kanata as we know and they talked her into coming back with some proper motivation.
Finally, Matsuri and Haato talk it out off stream, as they always should have, and whatever they talked about is between them and no more drama came out of this.

Still missing a lot of details like how many times Matsuri said she tried to reach Haachama, while Haato was meeting up with other members for friendly chat, but that's the gist of the timeline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10901511
Not that on topic but I will never know how or why Coco(and PPT) convinced Haachama to go back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10901499
roommate account obviously

[Anonymous No.]

>Hired her stalker to be her mod
>Said stalker doesn't translate as much as he used to and just bitches at other translators now
>Pushed away Fubuki and Pekora (and by extension Marine when she tried to help) because she doesn't fucking respect boundaries
>Pushed away Luna who was actually willing to be friends with her in order to chase Hoshikawa Sara YET AGAIN
>Aired out her dirty laundry with Haachama on twitter for everyone to see
>Plays nothing but Apex, oftentimes with males that she openly flirts with
>Told an obvious lie about THE HAND that only the most braindead simp would believe
>Genuinely emotionally unstable, refuses to help herself, pushes away people who offer to help her.
>Lyger is going to rape murder and skin her alive one day but everyone sees it coming.

[Anonymous No.]

she's gonna end up doing porn sooner or later

[Anonymous No.]

Matsuri is a good girl and deserves to be cummed inside as much as possible by me

[Anonymous No.]

Does Matsuri really bully her brother?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10897685
>birthday 3d
>>10901511
>her 3D
It was Gen1 you haatons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895808
fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>10902927
? Whatddayou mean, Haato was in the From First Gen 1 anniversary in June.
She was just a carboard cutout in Matsuri's one in late July though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-J0mGVamNc

[Anonymous No.]

>>10902359
god i hope so. she's crazy hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903205
I'd pay for it, just knowing it's matsuri would make it ten times hotter

[Anonymous No.]

actually getting together with a menhera girl sounds like a path to an early grave but the sex must be crazy...

[Anonymous No.]

she's putting out a lot more roommate stuff recently. is she planning on graduating and pivoting to become a normal influencer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10901047

[Anonymous No.]

On the other side, Matsuri did do a lot to try to win back some fans this month, even if it probably was just trying to build up hype for her outfit reveal... which she ended up having at the same time as Watame's 3D stream.

As always, she's pretty self aware.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRPxq_C6dqQ

It might have been a drunken rant, but she did try in September.
Barely touched Apex between the tournaments, did variety streams, a lot of collabs and started Phasmaphobia.
On the personal side, there weren't even any major yabs this month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903518
are you pledged to the fanbox? i was thinking of joining it myself but wasn't sure she's putting out content you can fap to

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903518
This is fucking Facebook-profile tier. I follow normal girls I know that more provocative pictures in uploaded to Instagram, don't get me started on their stories.
>>10903252
Matsuri is the type that'll poke holes in the condom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903634
nah, found on holo matrix

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903467
God I hope so. I wish her the best in life but I feel like she's a liability. Maybe she will be happy when she leaves, I know I will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903518
She gained weight. It's over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10901511
Why did Haachama want to leave Hololive? And why did Coco out of all people convince her to stay she herself hated Hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903627
These views honestly seem pretty alright to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903518
Why is her index finger so short? Perspective is one helluva bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903467
>>10898054
I hope so too, she'd be better of without unicorns and holobronies.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit Fatsuri is actually coming back
Also can't wait for
>fanbox content will be temporarily stopped , since there is some of the content being posted on SNS. Will have a discussion with the staff. I'm sorry for the subscribers, and I hope you can understand it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898517
Imagine thinking chama is a victim and not a snake.

[Anonymous No.]

She needs a good dicking to calm her down followed by hand holding. And I volunteer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903779
It's because she's feeding on my calorie-dense cum too often. I just can't say no to this bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904021
she needs a good gf, not a male

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904021
She's already getting dicked down. Her current level of insanity is WITH dick. Imagine without.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903779
Not for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904050
"handshake event" when?

[Anonymous No.]

Any place to read up on her controversies? Wikis are quiet about that stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

Delete the APEX servers

[Anonymous No.]

Didn't hololive mean a lot to her at some point? She seemed super invested when hololive was another plucky agency in Nijisanji's shadow. She had some soul then. Now that hololive is pretty massive you'd think she'd wear it on her chest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903781
Haachama was burn out, she explains that in Australia she did streams to feel closer to japan, and when she came back it all went poof, she was going to start college and stuff, she said she was jealous of the people in college hanging out, talking about weeb shit while she remained the quite one there.

She wants to have the normal college experience, which amerimutt hikkis classify as ''riding the dick carousel'', she just wants some irl friends to hang out while she spends her years in college.

And Coco didn't hate Hololive, just the managers who always denied stuff to her to the point she had to retire, but watching Kson doing nothing out of the ordinary as she claimed she would makes me believe she was actually fired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904582
Is this why Haachama is much less active on her channel now? She doesn't really need to stream in order to get that connection. The retards in the Haachama threads always talk about her being on the verge of graduating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904582
I think Kson is just worn down. I've known people to take big breaks between stressful jobs and not get back into their groove for another year.

As far as Haachama is concerned she really doesn't need to be Flare and stream 12 hours a day. She can have a nice college life streaming only once in a while. Coco probably told her not to burn bridges and keep her feet in as many doors as she can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904565
yea she was a big shot until newer girls came in and blew her the fuck out

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904873
She seemed pretty happy when Same-chan got 3 million.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't let your oshi play APEX.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10901047
who would pay 1000 yen for this, this is pretty pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904971
Fans?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904582
If I was Haachama I'd prioritise college and the social life that comes with it, and just use the vtubing to make some bucks that you can then use to travel or party or whatever

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895765
Matsuri changed fuck all, she is the same she was 2 years ago, a menhera/sekuhara machine, her whole humour was about being a degenerate and making people uncomfortable.
The problem is that the EOPs that used to love her got bored and dropped her, and the new fans think that all the holomen need to be seiso and idol like for some reason. The only difference between Matsuri then and now is that she has more money, a bigger channel and she likes Apex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10896663
>>10900169
It's true, unfortunately. The only thing that is unknown is whether that guy on twitter was lying about the one night stand, but the way she reacted to it was a little suspicious, especially after more recent events. Everything else is well documented.

It's weird. I've never had one of my posts become a copypasta before but I suppose it's fitting that it's one recalling bad memories. I started watching Hololive at the beginning of 2020 with the debut of 4th gen and quickly grew to like Matsuri, Korone, and Pekora, who I watched religiously. This was before her descent into APEX and she was really a different person back then. It's really painful to see everything that's happened, and I know I'm not the only one who thinks this way because her view numbers used to be some of the best in Hololive. She used to actually care about her viewers back then.

Here's a stupid example I guess: I remember one time she went on a huge talk about how she hated NTR and how you shouldn't ever read it because it destroys your brain to the point where you only read it to feel that sense of pain kind of like how cutters cut themselves to feel anything. The new Matsuri recently said NTR is one of her favorite genres.
It sucks what happened to her, but she really seems to hate her fans nowadays. At this point I don't know what she could do to get them to come back. She even had to start a fanbox recently for lewd IRL pics because her fans stopped supporting her on twitcast after the hand incident.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895765
I'd say most of the holos are menhera. so gg

[Anonymous No.]

>>10905100
Maybe Matsuri had expectations of her fans supporting her through anything. She seems too smart for that but I wonder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898054
>>10903861
>>10903467
She WAS putting out more roommate stuff, but she hasn't streamed since the hand thing and was inundated with angry fans on her most recent member only-twitcast.
She gets way more hate on her other accounts after the hand thing, anon. As Matsuri, she can pretend nothing ever happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10896663
First: Girl shares past, fans donate, oh no so evil blah blah blah
Second: She does harrass them, but so does other Holos
Third: Basically you believe a creepy guy on the internet claiming he had sex. Girls are liars afterall
Fourth: Basically crying means you are a bad person, got it
Fifth: Her money, so what?
Sixth: Coco likes Matsuri and invited her over several times.
Seventh: The "drama" was as stupid mistake that people here blew out of proportion. It was fixed quickly
Eighth: It's her brand of humor, so what?
Nineth: Doxx shit that people were desperate for others to care about
Tenth: Why would she get punished for not breaking any rules?
Eleventh: Creepy guy + Doxx shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>10905398
Sure is tricky being a female streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898514
I'm starting to believe this was the event that changed Matsuri's mind forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904565
She doesn't hate Hololive, she just doesn't need to try that hard anymore, she reached 1mi subs, she gets 10k every month just from superchat alone without doing anything special, and she is part of a very popular vtuber group. It's like Ayame, why try that hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904987
Fortunetely, she's doing that anon. She was also kinda jealous of people working normal part time jobs, because you get to socialize there too, but i guess she has some self-awareness to recognize that her Vtuber money and job are a blessing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10905540
>dont keep your boyfriend at home
>dont be a retard online
So tricky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10905703
That was her brother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10905503
Lyger, give it a rest. Seek help. Please.
You'll be happier. I promise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10905703
If you live with your bf it's pretty tricky, plus doesn't even need to be your bf, one male hand and poof big drama

[Anonymous No.]

>>10905741
No, that was the mysterious stalker, because she lives alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904582
>which amerimutt hikkis classify as ''riding the dick carousel
If you really think this doesn't apply to Japan aswell you're a stupid romanticizing simp

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899234
W-well... Maybe some months...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10905741
If it were the incident would fall under the second bullet point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10905796
Everyone thinks that going to college means endless dicks thanks to shows romanticizing that idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904565
The newer gens are only this popular by standing on the foundation that she, Fubuki, & other early gens built.
Then the new fans came in with their shitty culture and restricted her from doing all the activities that made her entertaining. She can no longer operate without a filter. Management's incompetence also caused her archive to be erased. Almost two years of effort is now gone. Can you really blame her for no longer giving a fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10905777
Live and stream in different places, rent an office or something. It's really not that hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10906000
>Everyone
People who never actually go to college think

[Anonymous No.]

>>10906011
Yes. It's a job and she's fucking it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10905503
How dare you be rational ?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904582
In Japan they don't fire you unless you fuck up so badly that the company can justify firing your ass/terminating your contract without the compensation and/or or severance packages/benefits - that's it, if you're above the lowest levels of menial labor (like store clerk/janitorial staff).

What they do is make your working life a living hell so you decide to quit - it goes as badly as companies like Sony having a department in which you'll do the most boring, meaningless chores in order to crush your spirit until you can't handle it anymore call quit.

As such, it's likely they didn't fire her - they just red-taped everything she wanted to do, even the most boring mundane things, to the point she would not want to renew her contract when the company did the expected thing of approaching her for renegotiating it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10906011
>new restrictions
Bullshit. You didn't watch Matsuri. Did you know her manager told her she couldn't even scream until a year after she debuted?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10897923
>Suisei is a stacy.
>She didn't give a fuck about other girl problem.

Yer right, she seems like the type that doesn't really give a shit about anyone else but herself. Some say this is basically Mori but worse then again its not like you are going to have people shit on her for those very feelings. Because what she is an JP talent?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898054
> I hope she streams only on her rommate. I hate 2D so fucking much

You can always go to twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>10906000
Meh, when I went to college I thought it will be a new experience, the reality is that is the fucking same as school, even less because there are some days when you don't need to go to the class... So basically it was really boring, also I don't think with the pandemic people are doing parties, less in Japan where things are stricter

[Anonymous No.]

>>10906238
Finally, an anon that's done his culture reps.
It's called 追い出し部屋 (oidashibeya) or the banishment room practice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banishment_room

[Anonymous No.]

She was already pretty fucked after refusing to back down from the apex spam so topping that off with Za Hando probably has her permanently debuffed

[Anonymous No.]

>>10906375
kinda sounds like you didn't have a social life anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>10896663
I was shocked she confirmed the rrat that her and luna got into a fight and weren't on speaking terms for a time on holotalk

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903781
She think she is reason why Coco graduation happened and she feel guilty by this fact. She want to silently die with Coco in that time but Coco and PPT talked to her.

Infinite song hint about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904709
She really want to graduation in some point before Coco talked to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10905689
I get her choice as well to be honest. In Japan, the older you get the harder it is to make friends since social circles are much more rigid than in the West. It's still harder in the west if you're older but nowhere near as impossible as it is there.

[Anonymous No.]

Cover needs to mandate therapy sessions for these girls, holy fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903906
I'm pretty sure festival started seething because haachama ghosted her and didn't really talk to her about the whole situation while still talking and meeting wirb other holos.
Haachama didn't want to graduate but said she wanted to come back at a later date, though I am a huge haaton I agree haachama has some under the table deals with cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>10907158
> Cover needs to mandate therapy sessions for these girls, holy fuck

Imagine Japan having job therapy mandates when even Japanese companies don't have that shit.

[Anonymous No.]

I’m surprised Matsuri hasn’t gone down the Emergence route

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904582
Kson is still dealing with problems that come from being radioactive to the Chinese market
Also doxing her culo

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908026
>doxing her culo

what does this even mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898514
I don't follow. Is that the nijisanji girl she oshi'd? Was she a whore? Is she still vtubing for nijisanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908882
>whore
no she didn't take money from men to sleep with them

[Anonymous No.]

>>10906000
>>10906057
>>10906375
you think women's college experience is the same as yours?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10897819
Lack of good company is definitely not the problem. There's Suisei as you mentioned, who doesn't give a single fuck in general, but she's also friends with Foobs, and I can't imagine Fubuki wouldn't try to help for as much as she could deal with that shit, too. Even after the hand incident she immediately called Matsuri for a collab right after.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10910013
The experiences are less about gender and more about whether you are popular or whether you are a social recluse. Most normal people these days have mixed gender friend groups you know

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904873
She really wasn't that much of a big shot. Matsuri had a though time gaining subs and always had pretty low numbers for like 1 year and half since Hololive started, and things only really started picking up for her after she pissed herself on Tamaki's channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>there's almost 8 times more posters here than in the matsuri thread
Matsurisu are going extinct

[Anonymous No.]

>>10910761
While we Matsurisus are endangered keep in mind that dramas attract tourists

[Anonymous No.]

>>10910761
NTR is a rare fetish

[Anonymous No.]

>>10910761
I do like her but the apex thing basically made me stop paying attention to her. Seeing in this thread that she's been doing more varied stuff last month does give me hope, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895927
existential crisis

[Anonymous No.]

>>10901229
>I feel like it's important to point out they said they weren't serious later on
So it's just a joke taken out of context

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903627
Fucking kek.
Congratulations to this guy trying so hard to damage-control that trainwreck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10912825
Yep

[Anonymous No.]

You will know true pain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiVk07oQZRY

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913616
how is this coomerbait allowed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913542
>Trying to save face
For what reason?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913616
I felt actually mad for Matsuri in this moment

[Anonymous No.]

>>10905100
>She even had to start a fanbox recently for lewd IRL pics because her fans stopped supporting her on twitcast after the hand incident.
Sauce? I'm not surprised but man i should have expected this.
>>10905380
Festival tries to hard to know everything, that's why her yabs are so powerful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10906509
I have a social circle, but is the same I had since school so nothing changed for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>10910013
Yes, only actual whores are the one taking dicks, normal people just have sex with their boyfriend/girlfriend if they have, do you think a college is an orgy room or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913616
Matuli, look away...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10910242
FBK sees herself as one of the pillars holding hololive together (and justifiably so), it goes beyond just being friends with Matsuri, she did it to make a statement that Matsuri was not going to be isolated because of the incident. Just like when she did a normal stream right after Coco's announcement to let people know that things would go on as normal. I honestly don't really see too much evidence that FBK and Matsuri are close in any way these days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10906000
To be fair you can get a lot of sex in college even if you're a nerd, girls in college are horny as fug are all of them are fucked in the head.
>t. went to college

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895808
fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908613
literally doxxing her ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>10910013
TL; DR Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895907
If I had to pinpoint the exact moment it would probably be the Apex tournament where she came in last place.
It hurt her self-esteem, it started the APEX meme and made her go full menhera on her coworkers and friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>gets cucked by her own friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>10922847
She still has her brother. As long as he doesn't get a girlfriend, everything is alright.

[Anonymous No.]

I think the reason Matsuri keeps coming back to her house is because she wants to keep her brother in check. The moment he actually has the chance to leave the house, he'll do it and probably won't tell her the new adress in the hopes she won't follow him

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903627
ngl those are pretty good numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>10925535
She did say she was going to kill her brother’s girlfriend for any reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895765
There's no salvation she sacrificed her viewers for more freedom, I hope she's happy with it

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895927
Energy: gone, she just being loud sometimes
Horni: reduce a lot, barely touch loli again
Menhera: she hates her fan and herself
Sing: still okay tho, but lost a bit of soul

[Anonymous No.]

>>10901047
How the mighty has fallen...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10906407
Fuck man, I wish American companies would do this. Imagine getting paid to sit around and do absolutely nothing. Seems pretty based. Can just fuck around on the internet all day browsing 4chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904971
Matsurisu are known for being the most pathetic fanbase for a reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903627
>Watched that much matuli
I know who you are, stalker

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930675
Anon... I think you're not understanding what it means...

[Anonymous No.]

I just take notice of this whole thing with Matsuri, holy shit.

Don't wanna pry too much, but are there other examples of this shit happening with the other talents?

I somewhat know of the Coco and Haachama thing because I follow them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904870
Melody call her out recently, may be they will collab one day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898517
Slowly over years I started to realize victims are typically the one in the wrong or are making something up, I almost always blame the victim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10906238
With Coco is so stupidly evident management drove her to quit. I think with Haachama it would've been the same but she stayed to make some cash before graduation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10930935
>Polka is a fat menhera virgin
>Noel was most likely ridiculed and molested by the guys at her highschool (?) because she had super big tits which caused her to become an ASMR slut.
>Mori is starting to like Hololive more after the sad realization that her old friends only came back for clout and then discarded her when they couldn't collab with her 24/7, causing her new Original to be made.
>Aqua almost kills herself playing too much Apex

That's as far as i remember right now, might put some later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903781
Coco is actually the queen of Chinks and that is why she spewed so many hateful things about hololive and showed how little she valued her coworkers, the Chinks hate her just like a grunt hates the head honcho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10927382
>Get more viewers raping Tomari, collabing with Nijis man and woman, pretending pissing in glass, playing Animal Crossing
>plummeted during Apex arc
What freedom anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931283
>Be me
>Ex calls crying
>I ask what happened
>Someone stole her laptop that was in the car with her thesis on it while she was shopping
>Don't say anything, just listen to her moarn and just say I'm so sorry it happened I'm glad you're ok
>Cameras catch the fucker and laptop is returned
>Unfortunately everything was wiped out to sell it as new
>We go home, she goes to her room to cry
>I'm in disbelief, sit down on the couch
>We saw the footage, the dumb bitch didn't lock the car's door nor activated the alarm
>mfw that's been always her habit
>mfw she has no one else to blame but herself

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931935
You sound as stupid as her. You also have no one to blame but yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931541
haachama family is fucking rich

[Anonymous No.]

>>10897749
>This made matsuri seething and tweets about it on her roommate account. T
what are you a broken phone?, it was her 2nd Matsuri account on twitter, do you even know what is roommate? fucking tourist

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931591
I wonder what the difference between Polka and Oyaku, both of them are dat but the kot is pretty nonchalant about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931591
Thanks anon, those updates will be appreciated.

>Polka
Saw the IRL picture one time and woudln't be surprised on the menhera thing.

>Noel
I don't even have words, that self esteem went through the drain.

>Mori
I don't follow Mori or hear he music for that matter, but saw some clips and one can clearly make whole of the situation; good for her, nobody needs shit like that in their life.

>Aqua
Aren't she, Shiina and Mea a whole can of worms though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10932595
The difference is Okayu is not a menhera.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10932624
Aqua has cripping autism

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895765
it's her real self anon, maybe if she finally gets a boyfriend and some dick she will start to take her job seriously

[Anonymous No.]

>>10906238
why would Cover want to fire Coco and Haachama?
They're not coming back to China anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>10933319
Almost every company panders to china, if the hate gets to a point where every single sponsor dips cause of the chink hate, Hololive, even though loved, would be a giant with little money to sustain itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10933608
chink hate on hololive died down a lot compared to last year, especially since coco graduated. theyre still vocal but they arent nearly as many as back then

[Anonymous No.]

>>10933669
They're still pathetic tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq2zHXTfHxQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931591
Don't forget that Noel has incestious feelings for her brother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10925535
Why is it the Japanese sisters that always seem to be menhera for their brothers? It a genetic thing or is it culture?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10934954
Incest, if reports are to be believed, is surprisingly high in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935159
hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>10932961
She did, that's why she no longer cares about her job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935159
Imagine a society of very socially autistic women that don't go outside but are still horny
Imagine a society of very socially autistic men that are horny but have no idea how to approach women
Have them be in the same family
japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>10910410
>being that much bluepilled about women
the average average looking women already has a 30+ bodycount by their early 20s
>>10916710
how many boyfriends do you think a woman has during college? how much do you think women cheat?
you guys are delusional, you don't realize how much promiscuos the average women is

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935391
>very socially autistic women
please tell me you don't really believe this, female social retardation is not like at all to men's

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935848
If you've ever spoken to the average women between 18-28 and women between 30-40 you will know that they have absolutely no game and nearly no social skills of their own.
It can be just as bad as male autism you just don't notice because they're not actively seeking out partners like men do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931541
Haachama is royalty, her family is fucking loaded beyond belief

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935789
All you have to do to open up their mind is ask the question “if you guys could have sex every weekend with minimal effort would you do it?” Of course most would the only difference is guys have to put more effort in to achieve the same results which is understandable if you don’t. But it’s also why I can’t blame the girls because I’d to the same thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895808
Why won't she save herself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10933608
it's not like they are getting any new sponsorship after Coco graduation.
Also, chinks actually thought Cover Haachama's punishment was too harsh when the Taiwan thing happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935973
>that they have absolutely no game
they don't need to have game
>nearly no social skills of their own
The average still has a group of friends and better social cues detection skills than your average shy male. Even shy women still manages to get boyfriends and lose their virginity earlier than shy men.
>they're not actively seeking out partners like men do.
They don't need to seek partners, men are the ones who seek them
You're under the impression that men and women are both act and are treated exactly the same. Keep this in mind: most women, and I mean like 95% of women, by the age of 20 have already lost their virginity while for men that number is way much lower

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935159
I wonder if Matsuri crossed the line with her brother.

[Anonymous No.]

Matuli has become the poor-man's Haachama

Haachama
>Got bored of assigned character, made up a new one
>Creative
>acts menhara and is successful because of it
>Friends with HSKW
>Picks and chooses when Tries to tow the line, celebrated for it
>Doesn't sexually harass coworkers
>In college
>Speaks Engwish
>Loyal to friends
>No Pepeloni

Matuli
>Character is IRL Matuli, therefore cannot change
>Apex
>IS menhara and constantly has IRL menhara attacks that blows up in her face
>Acquaintances of HSKW at best
>Goes over the line, irritates her collab partners
>Sexually harasses coworkers
>NEET
>Doesn't speak English
>New 'BFF' every month
>Eats Pepeloni

I wish the best for Matuli but its hard to watch her when Haachama is so much better and easier to root for

[Anonymous No.]

>>10939245
At least Haato is good at some games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10933319
Coco did say in her zatsudan she has conflicts with management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10939245
>The secret is the Pepeloni
I fucking knew it

[Anonymous No.]

>>10938235
no motivation, no dream, no goal, especially no true friend to dump her emotion into

[Anonymous No.]

>>10897489
Haachama cucked Matuli by going out with Hoshikawa. Matuli admits she like NTR after that event

[Anonymous No.]

>>10939539
Hey, that sounds just like me!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10933319
Coco was a liability, she was the focus of a lot of chinese haters, after she graduated hololive got suddenly a lot of permission for gacha games and cellphone games owned by chinese companies like CoD mobile.

>>10906238
You can actually pin point the moment she broke, it was when her manager fuck her over, after giving some chinese hater mod power in her chat, resulting in the banning of a lot of members and regular paypigs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10939245
Well matsuri has always been jealous of haachama, she is literally the better version of herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10940188
>after giving some chinese hater mod power in her chat
To this day, I still can't believe that something like that even happened in the first place.
This is fucking surreal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935789
Maybe is something related to the place where I live, but people consider women with +30 dicks taken as sluts, so they don't have a good reputation, now in Haachama's case, I'm pretty sure she started college being virgin if she is telling the truth about her experiences in Australia and considering how her roommate looks like, she is not very attractive irl and being in overseas made her not knowing any people there, so probably she struggled to make even some friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>10940511
Or maybe there are 24/7 bodyguards that sent by her zaibatsu family to safeguard her virginity

[Anonymous No.]

>>10940188
I doubt that.
Remember Coco always has a lot of restrictions on her before the Taiwan yab (demonization, Kanata suicide,...). The Taiwan incident just added more restrictions on her.
They're not gonna fire their biggest cow for some sponsorships that we haven't seen yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>10940752
but they actually did fire her in the japanese way like the other anon said, Coco presence in hololive was burning bridges to any partnership or collab with another company, because it could mean get a fuck ton of chinese antis.

She was a good cash cow, but at a company level she was just another streamer that they could allow to fire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895765
She was never not a menhera.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10940878
as I said, she already had a tons of restrictions on her before the Taiwan thing. Unless you say they wanted to fire her before that.
And I still haven't seen any Chinese sponsorship at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10896181
>>Meanwhile your dick loving love interest is having the best time with a retarded australian
Did an ausfag join Nijisanji at some point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10941112
Talking about Hoshikawa and Haachama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10941177
Oh. I didn't realise those two had interacted, so I thought it must've been a different retarded Australian.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10906238
Anyone who thinks they wanted to get rid of Coco is retarded, considering the amount of money she was bringing in. That trumps literally anything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>>Meanwhile your dick loving love interest is having the best time with a retarded australian
>Did an ausfag join Nijisanji at some point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10941093
You don't understand, no game company wanted to be associated with hololive when coco was there, I mean to this day she is still like the plague for any company that want to make money in China.

She was a huge liability, and after her graduation there were a lot more game permissions, like botan playing CoD mobile that is owned by tencent, that company literally own the mainstream game scene from the shadows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRc5uFPB2mc

[Anonymous No.]

>>10941317
Tencent have not problem with Hololive

Do you forget Apex?

[Anonymous No.]

>You don't understand, no game company wanted to be associated with hololive when coco was there, I mean to this day she is still like the plague for any company that want to make money in China.
>She was a huge liability, and after her graduation there were a lot more game permissions, like botan playing CoD mobile that is owned by tencent, that company literally own the mainstream game scene from the shadows.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRc5uFPB2mc [Embed]

[Anonymous No.]

>>10941372
Except Holo already had permissions for LoL and a bunch of other Tencent games before that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10941317
like one game, seriously. No sponsorship whatsoever.
Here's why I don't think Cover fired Coco:
- Her interactions and behavior towards Yagoo
- Cover didn't make any move back to China, or forcing the Holos to stream on Bili
- Cover putting restrictions on Coco was in line with what they did after everytime Coco fucked up before the Taiwan
- No resentment against Cover from Coco's close friends like Kanata and Kson didn't imply anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>10941413
that was when they were a small company and most of those VOD were deleted in the holocaust

>>10941445
>Her interactions and behavior towards Yagoo
Just basic PR to don't make the company look bad
>Cover didn't make any move back to China, or forcing the Holos to stream on Bili
Because they burned that bridge when the close holoCN
>Cover putting restrictions on Coco was in line with what they did after everytime Coco fucked up before the Taiwan
They literally isolated her and slowly destroyer her
>No resentment against Cover from Coco's close friends like Kanata and Kson didn't imply anything
Those are for legal reason, when she quit hololive she must have signed a contract that forbidden her to speak shit of cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10941561
>They literally isolated her and slowly destroyer her
When did this happen? She did tons of collabs with JP, the only one blocking her was Omegafaggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>10941445
>>10941561

She was not fired ( Banishment room) but not for permission and sponsors but include 3D resource from HTC as well.

She knew about it so.... she take all blame to herself and end

[Anonymous No.]

>>10941561
Why should anyone listen to someone who can barely write coherent english?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10941561
Jesus fuck please. Here is a sponsor COD stream btw
https://youtu.be/QPayY7Re7Yg
now provide some evidences instead of just speculation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895765
Pretty wild that this bitch has a Wikipedia article while much more popular Holos only get a passing mention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10939245
Oh yeah, I forgot about minecraft

Chad Haachama
>Got bored of assigned character, made up a new one
>Creative trailblazer, others emulate her ideas
>Acts menhara and is successful because of it
>Friends with HSKW
>Minecraft genius
>Never plans, always wins
>Picks and chooses when to tow the line, celebrated for it
>Doesn't sexually harass coworkers
>In college
>Speaks Engwish
>Loyal to friends
>Has Haatons make content for her
>No Pepeloni

'Virgin' Matuli
>Character is IRL Matuli, therefore cannot change
>Apex Apex Apex
>IS menhara and constantly has IRL menhara attacks that blows up in her face
>Acquaintances of HSKW at best
>Doesn't even have a Minecraft house
>Plans and still fails
>Constantly goes over the line, irritates her collab partners
>Sexually harasses coworkers
>NEET
>Doesn't speak English
>New 'BFF' every month
>Has Lyger
>Eats Pepeloni

[Anonymous No.]

Matuli is the type of girl i would unironically fear. Someday she will just snap like a branch and fucking stab somebody.
>>10932624
Why does people insist in that she has no self esteem? Because of her lewd ASMR's? I thought it was just gravure.

[Anonymous No.]

Bi polar or manic depressive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943995
One of my highschool classmates was an actually medically classified bipolar girl (not self-identified), now that I think about it she kinda acted like Matsuri. Even had similar fashion tastes. Never really knew her that well though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914103
Me2

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935789
>the average average looking women already has a 30+ bodycount by their early 20s

Bro, you are young, there is still time to vhange. These ideas are waht make you take unattractive actions IRL, grow past jt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935789
A TRUE and HONEST Virgin with Rage

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943142
I always got the impression Matsuri is really jealous of Haato especially when it comes to Hoshikawa.
The biggest example was when both Hoshikawa and Haato were talking about the hawaii trip. Later when Matsuri called she was pretty much begging to go to hawaii too only to get a no as a response.
It makes matsuri look like a complete retard, especially because the reason she's able to talk with Hoshikawa is Haato. There's also the rrats that she tried to get with Haato but since she couldn't, ended up thirsting for her best friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914103
>Sauce?
His ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943877
Matuli reminds me a lof of this girl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgBFeZXQwo0

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945272
>These ideas are waht make you take unattractive actions IRL, grow past jt.
This.
Retards think that they are enlightened by their way of thinking. Constantly thinking about "women this" "women that" "their hypergamy" and the like does no good to you. At. Fucking. All. It's the identical equivalent to trannies whining about transphobia in every breath they take.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945706
Take some meds or else you'll end up like Matsuri one day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945913
Scroll up you lazy nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>10946609
It's all just schizo ramblings. Sure, some of it is true but he keeps making a twist to make his schizo narrative sounds plausible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935391
didn't know animus are documentaries

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945272
>>10945518
>>10946034
>t. dudes that are in love with other men's sloppy seconds
cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>10945518
I don’t think she fucked her parents so we aren’t to that level yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10896219
Why are there so many dykes in hololive? Im tired of it and even worse are the idolfags who say lesbianism doesnt count, they are retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935789
Based Stacys making virgins rage

[Anonymous No.]

>>10935391
Something this whole board needs to keep in mind is that yoir average japanese women is nothing like a hololive or vtuber girl. Hololive girls are a bunch of menheras and not a representation of what regular Japanese women are like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10949828
Your average woman is menhera as well anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10949863
Your average japanese women doesn't piss herself on stream and plays with it live for thousands of fans to hear. Hololive girls are an outlier, is like expecting every American girl to be like Nyanners, is a stupid assumption to make.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10949965
You don't have to do any of that to be menhera, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10948855
literal incel detected
fuck off, go back to masturbating and blaming every minor inconvenience on women

[Anonymous No.]

I maintain that "menhera" vtubers are just excellent actors keeping up the act so the fans eat it up and keep giving them money out of sympathy. Meanwhile the girls themselves are laughing their way to the bank.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943877
Do your reps about Noel anon, she has boobjob, foot job and other sexual fetishes as ASMR. If you know about her roomate those are the keywords

[Anonymous No.]

>>10948855
>I may be a virgin but at least I've never had sex

Biggest LOSERCOPE

[Anonymous No.]

>>10938603
>95% of women, by the age of 20 have already lost their virginity while for men that number is way much lower
How can the numbers for men and women not be comparable if a woman needs at least one man for that?
Are you implying they all lose their virginity to ugly old bastards or that they are all dykes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10952388
Are you this stupid. Imagine 1 play boy gets 5 virgin girlfriends. 1 dude loses virginity, 5 girls do. Now, you don't need stats that lopsided as my example, but like use your head dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10951729
I maintain that you and other people who maintain this only force themselves to believe this as a self-defense mechanism because they're scared of feeling attachment towards another woman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10953761
What?
There's nothing wrong with being attached to pretend menhera girls as long as you don't delude yourself into being any form of actual support for them. Or better yet, be attached to them for their professionalism and not a perceived damage they have.
Any actual menhera would quickly crumble from their problems instead of being able to keep up appearances for a significant time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10951729
They're such good actors they've kept it up for several years before they even knew they'd become a successful Vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>10954093
Yes, skills are polished over time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10954292
BIGGEST COPE LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>10948855
Kek, keep seething bro, it's your loss at life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10897923
just wanted to point out that its not like pekora was offended or anything because after mario kart sudden collab they had 2 collaboration (apex + some horror supposedly uno) together.
So maybe it's not exactly she don't give a shit but more like she's not sure how to help.
Don't believe she did it out of obliviousness or out of ill intent.

I mean suisei is obviously busy and progressing and I hope festival learns some of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10940752
>Kanata suicide
Wait, what?
I'm just recently getting into the Kanata lore. Was that the hospital incident?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10954908
I said its Mario Party retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>10955075
No, this is not edited

[Anonymous No.]

>>10952388
It's called the 80/20 rule anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>10955648
That's clearly supposed to represent special effects where a wire is hooked to her back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10951597
>>10952356
>>10954651
Why are you so mad because people don't want used goods?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10943995
Bipolar

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895765
I will save her by forcing her to be in an abusive lesbian relationship with me

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895976
what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10952657
Lmao imagine most women are attractive enough for play boy to stick his dick in. They have standard, not an oxen you retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>10949763
She is not going to giving you any pussy, you know

[Anonymous No.]

>>10957779
She tried to stab her mother after an intense argument with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10959389
Jesus, I can't believe it. I thought you people were memeing or something. Was this reported on 5ch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10959389
>>10959528
rrat is the argument was about how handst she was with her brother and how her mom wanted to separate them so she snapped. That women is obsessed with her brother to an unhealthy degree, her brother is low key of her. She has said how she doesn't want her brother dating anyone. Poor guy, menhera mom and menhera daughter, i wonder where the dad is in all of this.

>>10957335
She's already been there, done that

[Anonymous No.]

>>10959712
Noel also said she left a bra in her brothers car to cause a fight because she wanted her brother to break up with his gf. What the fuck is wrong with the holos.

[Anonymous No.]

therapy and a boyfriend, unironically. but she's too afraid for either because of self esteem and trust issues piling into a mental illness soup.
the case of Matsuri is actually really sad coming from someone who had her as their oshi late 2018 into last year. it's been a road full of slight ups where she seems like she's actively improving and taking care of her relationships immediately followed by backpedaling and sabotage to lurch her further down than she was before.
I don't care about apex, her drama, or za hando. I just want her to be happy and stable, even if that includes graduation.

[Anonymous No.]

I wanna be Matsuri and Noel's brother at the same time
give me a toxic sister who wants to fuck me

[Anonymous No.]

>>10895765
Not my problem, she has a bf so its his job to fix her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10959712
The dad is around but Matsuri's mother is apparently worse than her.
>>10959753
Thats not what happened. She left the pads from the inside of a bra (because she doesn't need them) in her brother's car by accident, which lead to a misunderstanding between him and his gf, it wasn't malicious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10959808
>therapy and a girlfriend
fixed that for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>10960014
Just like Kiara, they seem to be prison lesbians.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10960014
>>10960266
You are aware Matsuri has openly flirted with males in the past on stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10958066
huge coping right here, all women will go for chad in a heartbeat, wake up to reality

[Anonymous No.]

>>10960340
That's what i mean by prison lesbians. Neither Matsuri nor Kiara seem to be acrual lesbians, but rather engage is homosexuality due to trauma.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10960340
bisexuals can end up with women, I know one married to one

[Anonymous No.]

>>10960406
>homosexuality due to trauma
I think you mean political lesbian, a prison lesbian is someone who's gay while in prison/female-only environment but then when back in multi-sex world goes back to being straight as a kite

[Anonymous No.]

>>10960406
My point is that its not even prison lesbianism in Matsuri's case. All the stuff with Hoshikawa and Luna is just for attention, especially since Luna actually seemed interested.
There was an Apex tournament where her team lost, she proceded to flirt with the guys in her team who agressively rejected her (to save her career and also probably thought fucking her isn't a good idea) and she then proceded to cry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10960551
I know what that means, i mean it in the way that Kiara and Matsuri, had they grown in a stable environment, would be normal girls. The homosexuality seems to be a way of dealing with mentall issues or pure trauma.

>>10960606
Thats the trauma or mentall illness, Matsuri wants attention to an extreme degree, oh they will pay attention if i fuck women, yes i fuck women jusy give me attention, meanwhile she keeps sperging out 9ver her brother. Kiara is in a similar boat, she doesn't want guys because she's been abused by men, who knows how badly, the idol industry can get horrendous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10959712
>rrat is the argument was about how handst she was with her brother and how her mom wanted to separate them so she snapped. That women is obsessed with her brother to an unhealthy degree, her brother is low key of her. She has said how she doesn't want her brother dating anyone. Poor guy, menhera mom and menhera daughter, i wonder where the dad is in all of this.
I can believe it. Matsuri is way to clingy and possessive of her little brother. Didn’t she say that she will stab whoever dates him? Not a good look.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10960842
She bullies him as well, if you have ever watched the full streams where he has appeared and not lygers cherry picked clips its clear he doesn't really like her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10960918
Having a violent crazy sister who barely hides her brother complex, i can understand his frustration.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10960796
I agree with you on Matsuri, and disagree with you on Kiara. Kiara's just gay and weird

[Anonymous No.]

>>10960975
I agree with that part but I meant to say that she can be quite cruel to him as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10960979
Look at how her roomate talks about women. She sounds exactly like a gay guy talking about women. "oh yes, i sure do love breast, yes sir, wow i love women and their attractive areas".

[Anonymous No.]

>>10961057
When does her roommate ever talk about women that way?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10961050
She called him a faggot when he refused to answer a question, Matsuri definitely bullies him.

[Anonymous No.]

Matsuri just needs dick on the clock, so that she can be mentally stable. I'll be the sacrifice because I've always wanted a landmine gf

[Anonymous No.]

for any femanon, just date Matsuri's brother, extra points if you are american because you'll have guns to protect yourself from the menhera

[Anonymous No.]

>>10961325
why date Matsuri's brother when Matsuri is way hotter

[Anonymous No.]

>>10931591
>noel molested by high school guys
you mean her uncle when she was like 12
>>10932595
okayu is straight and therefore actually popular with other women, thats the difference

[Anonymous No.]

>>10960404
Yes, and most of those women will be ultimately rejected because a chad has standards. I remember a video about a girl recording her friend trying to ask a guy at the gym for his snapchat, to what he responded: ''sorry, but you're kind of wack''

Seriously man, get a prostitute and forget everything you read on this board as ''facts about women and relationships''

[Anonymous No.]

>>10962037
rrats aout the uncle? and when did she say that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10962279
>Yes, and most of those women will be ultimately rejected because a chad has standards
Women prefer 5 minutes of Chad than 20 years of a beta. Just look at the interviews of old hags that slept with Marlon Brando, they still get wet after all of this years just from the mere thought.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10962279
You mean this board filled with people who neither are women nor interact with them isn't an expert when it comes to women?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10962436
Marlon Brando was fucking slut socialites and actresses anon, he was fucking major menheras and he was also fucked up himself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10961140
But why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10962037
>you mean her uncle when she was like 12
Noel wasn't molested. She was beaten.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10962428
Its not true its a narrative by the Noelschizo. Her father was a violent alcoholic thats where her fear of men comes from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10963591
>Noel wasn't molested.
I'm sure her brother touched her a few times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10963659
Her brother is basically a saint so I highly doubt he would do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10963724
But Noel wished it had happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10963788
Maybe once upon a time but she has moved on from that. She wants him to be happy now, she wants him to marry his girlfriend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10963840
>Menhera
>Moving on
Anon....

[Anonymous No.]

>>10964019
I mean if you ask her roommate about him and his girlfriend that is what she will say. She is full of praise for his girlfriend, she really likes her.
She may still be a menhera but her mental health is improving Matsuri could honestly learn from her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10963521
Why what? She wanted him to asner if he was a tits or ass guy.