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>broke down last sunday while being desparate for collabs
https://twitter.com/zentreya/status/1441821647527419905?s=20
>now taking a break
https://twitter.com/zentreya/status/1442909614249443328?s=20

>> No.10587605

It has already been discussed and there’s a thread ongoing >>10585038

>> No.10589249

How does a tts vtuber breakdown on steam? They type "AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" so the TTS can read in a robotic monotone voice?

>> No.10589284

>>10589249
He didn't have a breakdown on stream, otherwise there'd be clips all over /vt/ right now

>> No.10589356

>>10587430
What's the point of saying you are having a mental breakdown? it just helps to make your hates happy

>> No.10589593

The collab blunders are probably the root of everything. The little rant about it prior to this breakdown showed just how much it was eating away at them

>> No.10589622

>>10589356
It's called be an attention whore.

>> No.10589654

>>10589622
This.

>> No.10589755 [DELETED] 

>be a man pretending to be a woman
>have a "mental breakdown"
The true trannoid experience.

>> No.10589933

Hope he graduates. TTS Vtubers are not Vtubers.

>> No.10589941

>>10589593
Gee, who would have thought that nobody would ever want to collab with you ever again after you organized the biggest disaster of a collab involving vtubers with large viewerships.
I still can't believe he kept playing while the nijisanji vtubers had to wait on the title screen for him to finish that round. Pikamee stayed up until the early morning for that trainwreck and had to cancel streams to recover.

>> No.10590095

>>10589249
underrated kek

>> No.10590106

This is the 5th thread about this shit, can't wait for another one

>> No.10590118

>>10589941
That collab was a trainwreck but not nearly as bad as all the people on /vt/ always claim in their shitposts. Most of the people here probably haven't even watched it and only repeat posts about how terrible it was. NijiEN(Selen) still collabed with Zen afterwards.

>> No.10590148

Twitter screenshot threads should be punishable by execution

>> No.10590251

>>10589622
Kill yourself, faggot. Do it if you don't have enough human decency to support another through mental illness.

>> No.10590303

>>10590118
And yet he still whined that nobody wants to collab with him.

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>>10587430
Nobody wants to be with a TTS tranny who brings the plague to every collab he participates in. Well, at least not the big names. The smaller chuubas like Selen still are open to collabs but this ungrateful troon only cares about clout and numbers rather than potential friendships. No sympathy for these types of "people."

>> No.10590441

>>10589941
I did not watch the collab but, Pikamee having to stay up, and cancel streams later as a result, sounds like something that would happen regardless

>> No.10590457

>>10590370
>The smaller chuubas like Selen still are open to collabs
You mean her manager is open to collabs

>> No.10590472

>>10590370
>all the 2views that went "I'll collab with you" were summarily ignored
so much for that loneliness eh

>> No.10590478

>>10589593
niji en and pikamee are in a different league from vshojo in the first place. he thought they could be his friends or comrades or something? at least those are not the ones who he can constantly collab with regardless of his fuckup.

if he wants to collab with others so much, just should pick western indies, and he can still. so this mental breakdown shit sounds just like he wants to get close to popular ones.

>> No.10590514

>>10590478
>niji en
>different league
Yeah, the minor leagues.

>> No.10590539

>>10589249
Lmao I can actually hear it

>> No.10590543

>>10590478
True, they're in a lower league than vshojo but it was nice of Zen to invite them

>> No.10590632

>>10590472
Don't even know why the offered. You can tell he's a clout chaser like any western e-celeb.

>> No.10590764

>>10587430
I can't believe no one wanted to sit in silence for 30 seconds and wait for this retard to type everytime he wanted to talk. Sounds grate for fast flowing collab banter.

>> No.10590780

>>10589933
TTS "Vtubers" are not "Vtubers"...

>> No.10590868

>>10590472
>were summarily ignored
Of course they were. Zen probably only wants to collab with Holos while throwing everyone else under the bus but management rightfully declined. Kiara recently liked his begging tweet so hopefully she doesn't try to persuade management to give this clout whore what he wants.

>> No.10591116

>>10590543
>lower

is the jp industry lower? niji has its own huge universe like recently niji en members have started to collab with niji jp or id members frequently. selen ignores the language barrier and shes actually getting through it. so they will have more collabs with jp/kr/id members.

literally niji has 100-200 vtubers so dont specially need to have collabs with other indies unless its a very special collab or they are their special friends. seems this tranny wants constant collabs with them like circlejerking, but such a shitty custom doesnt exist in the jp industry, to begin with.

pikamee has already had her own diverse indie connections in both the jp and en industries, so she doesnt need to force herself to expand it either. much less a poorly handled western indie collab or a weird vtuber who actually bitches about shit on twitter.

>> No.10591253

>>10590251
Ive got mental illness.
Dont believe me? Well then
>Kill yourself, faggot. Do it if you don't have enough human decency to support another through mental illness.
see, its that easy you gullible mongoloid nigger

>> No.10591314

>>10590632
Because lots of 2views are similar attention whores or desperate for their big break

>> No.10591349

>>10587430
Zen's mental breakdown doesn't have anything to do with her/his vtuber career though.

>> No.10591402

Turns out the biggest menhera in vshitshow was the only guy in it lol. Not surprising that nobody wants to collab with a dude using a fucking TTS, while every collab he has hosted has been a complete shitshow.

>> No.10591429

>>10591116
>nijiEN
>in the jp industry
Maximum cope

>> No.10591450

>>10587430
The ABSOLUTE STATE of trannies' mental health

>> No.10591452 [DELETED] 

>>10590780
Yes, in the same sense that trans women are not women.

>> No.10591520

>>10590370
Didnt a Holo or Niji respond to this with something like "awww thats sad! Hopefully someone (not me) collabs with you soon!"

>> No.10591539

>>10591349
Zen's career is being a virtual tranny and trannies are walking mental breakdowns. So I'd say it's work related and entirely not a surprise.

>> No.10591543

>>10591520
Based treerat.

>> No.10591553

>>10590251
Yeah no. Zentreya's issues are entirely self-inflicted. He doesn't have any legitimate mental illness, he's just an emotionally unstable twat that sniffs his own farts to get high. He uses TTS because he's afraid someone will recognize who he is but it's a guarantee nobody will have ever heard of him once his identity leaks..

>> No.10591561

>attention whoring even when taking a break
just say you're taking a break from vtubing to relax. don't pity bait with omg i had such a big mental breakdown you don't even know please give me more attention

>> No.10591734

>>10591520
Risu did. To be fair though, she probably couldn't collab with him even if she wanted to due to management.

>> No.10591741

>>10590868
Cover is hyper-autistic about copyright and permissions, and arguably the biggest problem with that disaster collab was them playing copyrighted shit repeatedly and ignoring their guests' objections to it, making the guests sit out rounds and ultimately private their VODs
I'm surprised Niji will still give them the time of day after being exposed to actual legal liability because the host was an idiot

>> No.10591804

>>10591741
that's besides the point. it's retarded for Zen to bitch and moan about people not reaching out for collabs when it's painfully obvious she only wants to collab with bigger chuubas. hundreds of decent western indies reach out and they're all ignored because Zen isn't looking for a collab but rather clout chasing.

>> No.10591842

Oh no that suck, anyways

>> No.10591865

How do you collab with someone who can willingly talk but uses a TTS program like theyre disabled?
Theyre not steven hawking theyre a physically functional human
How do you collab with this person?
It'd feel super uncanny and weird and any conversation would be extremely jarring. Maybe i dont know, evolve into not being a gimmick? If youre a dude its not babinikus don't already exist

>> No.10591892

Sucks but she just has to realize tts is just not good for collabs, it's time to adapt

>> No.10591937

>>10591804
I usually like Zen and feel this is true, she wouldn't even go for mid-tier indie, only the biggest names everyone knew

>> No.10591939

>>10591865
Considering how little Zen shows up in collabs with other vshojo members it makes me think even they are tired of his shit.
He only landed that job because he's friends with Mowtendoo, not because he's good at what he does.

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10591976

>why wont anyone collab with me?

>> No.10591980

>>10591865
This is like the biggest concern, I can understand the TTS gimmick at a solo standpoint. But watching Zen collabs are fucking awful. That Selen APEX collab was retarded in several ways, she's making TTS callouts damn near minutes after they're relevant, whats the fucking point?

>> No.10592013

>>10591976
at least 100 people of those 2k likes have reached out to Zen for a collab but all were ignored because they weren't big enough

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>>10591804
>>10591892
>>10591937
>>10591980
>she

>> No.10592020

dont' know why this asshole doesn't just use speech transcribe instead of typing out all his shit. speech recognition tech has gotten really good and mistakes are minimal. would eliminate some of the awkward silence at least

>> No.10592030

>>10591939
Zen is actually one of the most technically proficient vtubers, people think Ame is good with steam tricks but Zen can juggle much more. I understand not wanting to listen to TTS or talk to TTS for hours in a collab though, but saying they're not good at vtubing is just saying you've never seen a stream

>> No.10592060

>>10592016
Even if it was a she the TTS gimmick would still be shit and that's all I care about.

>> No.10592071 [DELETED] 

>>10592016
>>she
>>she
>>she
piss off and get better material one joke white boy

>> No.10592078

>>10592016
it's an anime character retard, go back

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>>10591976
>"but i'd be lying to myself to force myself to be quiet when the world I live in is falling apart"

>deletes the tweet 10 minutes later and stood quiet about it ever since
The literal definition of an attention whore with no principles.

>> No.10592154

>>10592020
He IS using speech recognition.
It's why there are so many fuckups with the TTS voice saying the wrong word AND partly why the TTS responses are so far behind the rest of the conversation. Speech recognition is a resource hog and takes a while to shit out a dictation.

>> No.10592183

>>10592016
Wrong board Chenfag

>> No.10592207

>>10590251
>Kill yourself, faggot
You first, nigger

>> No.10592210

>>10591804
I mean there's a minimum standard of professionalism that has to be met for collabs with the big league corpos that they are obviously incapable of meeting.
If someone repeatedly does something that could get their collab partners banned from Youtube why the fuck would they be surprised when their calls aren't returned?

>> No.10592225

>>10591734
Ollie just collab with Ironmouse don't see why it wouldn't be possible.

>> No.10592240

>>10587430
>are confident
So he admits it was a couple playing Zen.

>> No.10592272

>>10592225
Ironmouse is a normal human being while Zen is a mentally unstable troon who uses TTS. I'm pretty sure management would approve one and not the other.

>> No.10592298

>>10592225
Ironmouse is actually respectful of her guests. Her and Silvervale are unironically the best two in VShojo.

>> No.10592317

>>10590514
>>10590543
t. delusional vshojocucks

>> No.10592332

>>10590370
I'm okay now with Ame ghosting everyone and not doing collabs. It's better this way, even if there are actually good chuubas she could collab with. Too much potential for clout chasing and dramatics among ENs.

>> No.10592333

>>10592225
Didn't she practically sound like she had a gun to her head the first time she did a holo collab? I'm sure Cover faxed them some giant list of terms before letting that go ahead

>> No.10592412

>>10592154
No it doesn't lol, it's gotten to the point where it's rather instant. At most it should be spouting out every word he's saying within 1 second of when he says it.

>> No.10592425

>>10592078
what you talking about, the tts is an anime character?
Vshojo is a fictional show? What's it about? Hentai I assume?
You go back, the furry fandom is where you belong.

>> No.10592462

>>10591734
Based management gatekeeping trannies from the Hololive

>> No.10592476

>>10592333
>faxed

>> No.10592575 [DELETED] 

Typical tranny

>> No.10592602

>>10592016
Based chenposter

>> No.10592639
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10592639

>>10587430

Threadly reminder this is neither a tranny not a single person, this is a black libshit and his girlfriend pretending to be a heshe online for attention and money. A scam from the get go.

>> No.10592677

>>10592412
>it's gotten to the point where it's rather instant
No, it hasn't. Speech recognition is a massive resource hog and even the top of the line program still takes a few seconds to determine what you said, then there's the dictation time. The process of listening to what's said + processing that + determining the correct words used + dictating that into either notepad or the TTS program itself = far more than a few seconds.
>it should be spouting out every word he's saying within 1 second of when he says it
This is how I know you don't know what the fuck you're talking about with these programs.

>> No.10592732

>>10587430
>work
thats kind of disrespectful to people that contribute to society

>> No.10592836

>>10592016
The fact that people are getting mad that this anon correctly called these retards out is indicative how shit this board is.

>> No.10592845

>>10592677
>read my asspull
No, I won't.
I've installed speech recognition software for multiple clients in the past so I know what I'm taking about unlike you, random internet retard. I don't know what the trannytuber is doing to have such shitty response time but clearly they don't know what they are doing. If I were to help them then this wouldn't even be a problem.

>> No.10592899

>>10590118
I watched the clip of Hakura forcing Pomu to acknowledge the surgery she wanted to avoid bringing attention to and that was enough to taint the whole thing for me.

>> No.10593142

>>10587430
The words "he", "she" and "they" are missing.

The plot thickens.

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>>10592899
You forgot that Pomu herself had to apologize for the shitshow on a later stream.

I will never forgive those whores.

>> No.10593189

>>10592845
>asspull
Nah, I know exactly what I'm talking about. The difference between someone who writes the programs and merely installs them is huge. You're just the technician that installs shit and doesn't know it works.
The serious lag issues with Zen's TTS is entirely because they're using a computer that doesn't have sufficient resources to multitask while speech recognition is running, compounded by streaming software also being a resource hog and possibly shitty internet.

The only credit I'll give to him Zen that he knows he can't just sit there talking for great lengths of time because the longer speech recognition has to work, the worse it gets and the more resources it takes. This is the main reason they talk in very short sentences even when solo streaming.

Educate yourself on the software you allegedly install, you shitty ass know-nothing technician.

>> No.10593207

>>10592899
>wanted to avoid bringing attention to
Yeah by having a big stream beforehand to steal money from simps. She hasn't even proved the surgery even happened.

>> No.10593233

>>10592639
I believe it

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>> No.10593267

>nobody wants to collab because tranny and TTS
>needs validation, so seeks collabs more than anything
>telling fans about mental health to seek sympathy
>speaks in the third person because crazy

>> No.10593447

>>10592071
>>10592078
>>10592183
Go back to discord

>> No.10593542

>>10593245
Actually laughed out loud while reading this.

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>>10593245
>play video game in front of camera
>waaaaah my life is so hard

>> No.10593587

>>10593245
>that stealth jab at the end
nice

>> No.10593596

>>10592013
>at least 100 people of those 2k likes have reached out to Zen for a collab but all were ignored because they weren't big enough
DO YOU HAVE #'s? ARE THOSE NUMBERS BIG?

>> No.10593652

>>10592225
Gee, I wonder why management wouldn't want their employees to collab with someone who tweets shit like this and American woke political cancer.

>> No.10593687 [DELETED] 

>>10591452
No not at all. Trans women dont have female biology.

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>>10587430
>Man
>Waiting for girls to make the first move

>> No.10593797 [DELETED] 

>>10587430
Men will literally buy expensive big titty 3d models and stream with tts larping as a woman instead of going to therapy

>> No.10593851 [DELETED] 

>>10593797
>go to therapy
>small hat tribe doctor recommends you cut your dick off

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>>10593571

YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW

>> No.10594021 [DELETED] 

>>10587430
Faggot needs to kill himself already

>> No.10594424 [DELETED] 

>>10587430
I honestly have no fucking clue why Vshojo even hired this tranner

>> No.10594469

>>10593979
Bugged oshi mechanics

>> No.10594526

>>10593189
Holy fuck you make a lot of assumptions. How are you even alive being so retarded?

>> No.10594591

>>10593587
The best kind of taking shots at people.

>> No.10594594

could you guys send me a link to the disaster collab or at least tell me what to look for? I wanna check it out

>> No.10594650

>>10591520
Gura's response: LET'S FUCKING GOOOO!

>> No.10594652

>>10587430
I was today years old when I learned Vshoujo have a text-to-speech vtuber, are they gonna hire a legit bot next?

Wtf who thought it was a good idea to hire this "person"?!

>> No.10594694 [DELETED] 

Zen is not trans he is just a liar. Even by onions fed twitter standards he is a liar.

>> No.10594710

>>10592333
Yes, they do. Trash Taste guys leaked that they had to sign an NDA about the tech used and there were some topics they weren't supposed to talk about related to their real life appearance and any personal info.

>> No.10594744

>>10593168
Pomu is too nice and apologizes so much for shit other people have done. She needs to remember she isn't Japanese and only works for them.

>> No.10594786

>>10594526
>a lot of assumptions
You're assuming that assumptions are being made. I assume you don't have anything else to add since you didn't bother pointing out these assumed assumptions.

>> No.10594789

>>10593587
Petty. It's the excuse of a lazy cunt.

>> No.10594910

>>10587430
>get vshojo blacklisted with 2 companies while doing that dogshit group collab
>now this
hardly surprising
Just fucking shut down vshojo already and the industry will instantly improve

>> No.10595041

>>10594910
They got blacklisted by nobody

>> No.10595072

>>10595041
is that why the collab stream has been deleted LMAO

>> No.10595105

>>10587430
>googled what the heck is a TTS vtuber
Seriously? I never watch him but how does banter between him and chat happens? Can that TTS bot or whatever it is dictate what tone he wanna use and such? I MAYBE can get pass the tranny part but that TTS shit?

>> No.10595121

>>10595072
It was deleted from Youtube because of DMCA issues that would affect NijiEN and Pikamee. The collab stream remained up on the channels of the Twitch streamers, but given how Twitch archives are, they might have been removed already.

>> No.10595129

>>10593207
Yeah, she should have livestreamed the whole thing and got some vtubing surgeons involved and made it a collab thing.

>> No.10595192

>>10595121
Cope nigger cuck

>> No.10595223

>>10595072
It was because of copyright shit that the ones on youtube had to delete it
Was up on twitch on 6 channels for 60 days before expiring and then moved to youtube by the ones with vod archives there
Froot and Zen collabed with Selen after the collab that you're saying got them blacklisted

>> No.10595246

>>10591450
Zentreya is not a tranny. This has already been debunked by Snopes.

>> No.10595319

>>10595105
The official term is a "mute"
Usually they dont talk at all whatsoever thus the name. But you can go an extra step with your attention whoring by using not TTS where you type manually what you want to say but a voice recognition software that will pick up your words, then put it up as text on the stream with le meme funny haha TTS speech sample voices you pick

Yes. Its as retarded as you think it sounds.

>> No.10595320 [DELETED] 

>>10587430
I hope the tranny takes a perma-break from life.

>> No.10595363

>>10595246
Yeah, nobody trusts Snopes. Bring back the Mythbusters, they'll figure it out

>> No.10595370

>>10592899
Any chance of link to the clip?

>> No.10595396

>>10592476
It's a Japanese company, prease understandu...

>> No.10595406

>>10589593
ehh what happend? anyone got a tl;dr of these blunders?

>> No.10595425

>>10595406
tl;dr read this thread

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Zen sounds exactly like text to speech.

>> No.10595473

>>10589249
JOHN MADDEN
FOOTBALL

>> No.10595499

>>10594710
too bad they did exactly just that.

>> No.10595568

>>10595223
How later on were those collabs? If they were rather close to the shitshow they might've been already scheduled and let it slide before closing the gates.

>> No.10595629 [DELETED] 

>>10595406
Tranny hosts a group collab between vshojo,niji and pikamee
Its a disaster right from the get go with the tranny harassing multiple people and asking inappropriate questions
They were supposed to play prop hunt in gmod, most people didnt know how to play and nobody explained it to them then switched to deathmatch which nobody wanted to play
In a BRILLIANT display of streamer intellect the tranny picks maps with copyrighted music fucking over everyone
Pikamee had issues connecting due to JP ping and could barely play

tl;dr if you are smart you will NEVER collab with vshojo

>> No.10595632

>>10595568
Was like a month later

>> No.10595705

>>10595319
I....I dont think even Reddit can defend this one. Just use voice changer or something.

>> No.10595731 [DELETED] 

>>10595629
>the tranny harassing multiple people and asking inappropriate questions
Never happened
>then switched to deathmatch
they switched to prophunt
The second half where it was prophunt was actually pretty good, the rest was shit though

>> No.10595762

I had passing knowledge of Zen, but I actually took the time to take a careful look at her content:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lMnRK5mNxc

Who the fuck watches this shit? Are people that easily entertained over someone overly gesticulating like a mime and a reaction that is seconds late to what happened?

>> No.10595765

>>10595629
Holy shit what the fuck
This has to be fake, right? No one can fuck up this bad
I'm glad I don't watch this tranny

>> No.10595783

>>10592836
I only called him a Chenfag to acknowledge my fellow 2hufags

>> No.10595801

>>10595762
Anon we are talking about Vshojo viewers here. You are already scraping at the bottom of the barrel

>> No.10595912

>>10595629
Some additions/corrections:
There were many many connection issues
Many issues with people not getting invited to rounds
Everyone was expecting to play Prop Hunt, but they started with TTT or whatever, and nobody ever explained the rules, so people thought it was just deathmatch. (Switched to Prop Hunt later)
Played many maps with DMCA content (a big no for NijiEN & Pikamee)
That whole Haruka putting Pomu's surgery on full-blast at the end

Fuck Vshoujo

>> No.10596000

>>10595499
Did they really? I can't be arsed to follow anything they do.

>> No.10596228

Does he care about collabs that much, . Feels like he should be happy he somewhat made it with his shit gimmick and being a male twitch whore 2 big debuffs

>> No.10596236

>>10595762
Wow that voice sucks ass. If he used the old Microsoft Sam at least that would be funny

>> No.10596303

>>10595762
What the fuck? This is what Vshojo faggots are watching?
This is just fucking sad

>> No.10596323

>>10589249
goddammit i shouldn't laughed that loud at 2 am

>> No.10596343

>>10596228
It's not the collabs, it's the loss of clout and loss of being part of the "community", It's a feeling of isolation (and well deserved imo. If you're a collab host it's your responsibility to be a good host and ensure everyone has a good and safe time)

>> No.10596413

>>10593245
who?

>> No.10596423

>>10596343
>ensure everyone has a good and safe time
>safe time
Safe from what? They're streaming from the comfort of their own home. Some of which are in different fucking countries. What exactly is the collab host supposed to protect people from?

>> No.10596427

>>10596413
vtweeter

>> No.10596435

>>10596303
I mean it's better than watching someone fake being retard when talking about what they did the day before for like 5 mins or something.

>> No.10596466

>>10596435
>I mean it's better than watching someone fake being retard when talking about what they did the day before for like 5 mins or something.
Not really, no.

>> No.10596489

>>10596427
i couldn't have thought of something lower than trolls could exist in the vtuber life cycle but here we are

>> No.10596507

>>10593571
>play video game in front of camera
this part is piss easy
>making a living wage from it as an entertainer
>growing an audience in a saturated market
>marketing, promoting, building business relationships and getting sponsorships
this part is hard

>> No.10596516

Western Vtubers especially vwhores were a mistake

>> No.10596531

>>10595473
do do do, do do dooooo

>> No.10596613

>>10596423
DMCA content for starters, by not being a fucking faggot that it can’t even bother to check is the maps is going to chose are Friendly to your co-hosts

>> No.10596621

>>10596507
Sounds like a (You) issue to me. You were the one that specifically picked you wanted to push your tranny shit onto vtubing the moment you got picked up by a company. You have only yourself to blame for that one when nobody is buying it and are telling you to fuck off

>> No.10596678 [DELETED] 

>>10591976
>politics in vtubing
Into the garbage he goes

>> No.10596688

>>10595629
Wtf how can one person be this big of a fuckup?!?

And now dare asking why no one wants to collab lmao

>> No.10596738

>>10596423
DMCA.

>> No.10596843

Hope his graduation is coming. He's the only person in vshojo I really don't like.
t. veifag

>> No.10596849

>>10595731
I dare you to tell me that Pomu wasnt harassed in that collab
Lets hear the mental gymnastics you are going to try and pull here defending them

>> No.10596910

>>10596849
as someone that didnt watch it, what was said?

>> No.10596913

>>10596507
>this part is hard
As it is everything you try to do as a startup for a living, like opening your own shop/business. Then you get mad that some other shop/business "has it easier" when you see them succeed while in reality they built up from scratch as well, but they focused more on improving instead of looking around others enviously. They time they spend whining is time they could be spending doing something more productive. Corpos vtubers are almost aleays picked up with some indie background which means they went through the same torny path.

>> No.10596963 [DELETED] 

>>10596849
You said the tranny harassed multiple people
Haruka's not a tranny, she's an autistic moose

>> No.10597010

>>10596910
it's everyone giving her support for her surgery and she felt really embarrassed and awkward throughout.

>> No.10597221 [DELETED] 

>>10587430
https://twitter.com/zentreya/status/1442197178542215177

Why are trannies so gay?

>> No.10597599

>>10595762
>fuck fuck holy shit *moves around*

>> No.10597653

>>10596507
tts vtuber isnt for business anyway. it doesnt fit the vtuber business standards
if you are woke/commie enough to want to subvert it then try it, but nobody will really support you

one of my questions is why he cant vtube as a babiniku and use a voice changer despite refusing to be a typical tranny vtuber. if he were he couldve been a decent vtuber.

hiding gender identity and not practicing babiniku-vtubing is pretty counterproductive in this industry because japanese are already fully openminded about it and its become the standards. if he or the western vtube industry cant adopt the japnaese standards, then male vtubers like him end up having to be an official woke sjw tranny vtuber.

>> No.10597664

>>10587430
>"taking a break"
>removes "VSHOJO" from their Twitter name
HMMMMMMMM

>> No.10597835

>>10597664
Removed all the artist and rigger info too so I'm guessing they were thinking about quitting vtubing at the time

>> No.10597935

>>10595499
True. And I wish Cover would've given their parent company Kadokawa shit for it. All Connor did during the Mori interview was ask about "the person behind the avatar". Months later they spoke on how the real person was there with them but not shown, which I think definitely broke the NDA.

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>>10587430
Men like this exist. I'm no chad nor do I really have my shit together by any means but men like this actually exist and it embarrasses me.

>> No.10598172

>>10597664
>>10597835
Hopefully the troon ends himself

>> No.10598292

>>10597010
what surgery? im out on the loop of this one I've noticed...

>> No.10598299

>>10587430
I'm unironically sympathetic. Any man who exists in the west is constantly bombarded on all sides by institutional misandry. Men having mental breakdowns and chopping off their balls is a feature, not a bug, of the system which governs us all. It's why I can't hate mass shooters, because western academic, cultural and legal systems are so overtly hostile towards men, a women who used tinder as a man to try to help her bother wound up spiraling into depression from the realization of how absolutely fucking god tier lucky she was to be born as a woman in the west.

I hope he realizes that the only thing that can help him is embracing the notion that "It's ok to be a man." Only that and tranquilly furious misogyny can cure a case of the globohomo.

>> No.10598373

>>10595912
Some corrections of the corrections:
The DMCA content was a Spongebob map. There was no Spongebob audio playing it was just a map that was modeled after Bikini Bottom but apparently that's enough to be DMCA in Japan while that's not a problem on Twitch's end so since the organizers were on Twitch they didn't know it would be a problem until it came up.
Pomu had announced her surgery beforehand and the moose spilled her spaghetti in trying to bring it up as a sendoff. It wasn't great but people like to imply that she was bringing something private up when it had been tweeted about beforehand.

>> No.10598400

>>10597968
>Marine takes a month off do she doesn't end up like the bitch who voices Marge Simpson
>None of her fans worry about it because it's perfectly reasonable
>Zen takes a break because his faggotry is getting to him.and he's "having a meltdown"
>everybody rightfully mocks him, except for the couple of people still holfing on to the cope that he's "totally just a mute girl"

>> No.10598420 [DELETED] 

Why are Amerimutts always like this? They always try to poison an industry with fake victimhood like this

>> No.10598464

>>10598299
>a women who used tinder as a man to try to help her bother wound up spiraling into depression from the realization of how absolutely fucking god tier lucky she was to be born as a woman in the west.
sounds like bs

>> No.10598507 [DELETED] 

>>10598292
She got gender reassignment surgery. Pomu has a vagina now.

>> No.10598520

>>10598292
Pomu got the breast tissue removal surgery because she got tested and she has the genetic trait for a specific breast cancer. Her mom and grandma both got it so it was almost a 90% chance she'd eventually get it in middle age or older so she went under the knife and now she has a DFC.

>> No.10598527

>>10598420
Politics encourage it

>> No.10598557 [DELETED] 

>>10587430
41%

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>>10598507
Dilating Pomu's smelly axe wound!

>> No.10598660

>>10598373
There was also a map that had anime posters plastered all over it. And in all maps, they had to often do Audio Jungle because of DMCA music that would play.
And yes, some people already did know about Pomu's surgery, but it wasn't Haruka's place to tell strangers from 13 other fanbases about it, especially since Pomu did not want to bring it up herself, even when given the chance to 3 times.

>> No.10598661

>>10598400
Nobody actually believes Zen is a woman.
Zen is a man using a stupid TTS setup and ridiculous models to part morons from their money.
Only the terminally retarded think Zen is a tranny.

>> No.10598691

>>10590370
Hey, he dropped communities left and right to claw up to where he is now. He can lay in the bed he's made.

>> No.10598709

>>10590251
Hey Zen, mental health has and always should be a private matter limited to that individual and their immediate support group. The only reason you'd broadcast a mental breakdown to the whole world is for attention. You want sympathy from everyone else. This is narcissism and is likely rooted the cause of the mental breakdown in the first place. Take some time to fix yourself during your time off okay.

>> No.10598816 [DELETED] 

>>10598660
>since Pomu did not want to bring it up herself, even when given the chance to 3 times.
Yeah, I think that anon is the same one that downplays this every time it's brought up in a thread.
>>10598661
It always was a guy and he has/had a gf that at one time pretended to be Zen while gaming. Read the tweet and notice Zen used the adverb 'are' to refer to themselves.

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>>10598400
The Japanese also culturally take "doing things properly" very seriously and that absolutely includes recovering from an injury or illness. Everyone with a brain is aware of this. Americans are brought up to be unstable and unable to handle any kind of conflict in their life which results in walking talking (doesn't even do that) jokes like Zen. I can respect someone taking time to recover the part of their body that makes them money. I could never in any life respect someone taking time off for reading mean words on the internet and especially when they brought it on themselves.

>> No.10598910 [DELETED] 

>>10598816
Doesn't mean he is a tranny. He doesn't want to reveal his gender.

>> No.10598963

>>10589249
Fucking kek

>> No.10598965 [DELETED] 

>>10598910
The mental gymnastics that you vshojofags are going through is straight up pathetic
>h-hes not a tranny!
>o-ofcourse h-he is a man p-pretending to be a woman and h-having female p-pronouns on his b-bio everyone k-knows that but not a t-tranny!

>> No.10599011

>>10598464
its an old reddit post on a throwaway account so its a coinflip

>> No.10599082 [DELETED] 

>>10598965
Huge difference between being a mentally disturbed man that wants to chop off their dick and try to be a woman and a mentally disturbed man that dons a virtual woman suit and tries to be a woman.
Massive difference.

>> No.10599090 [DELETED] 

>>10598965
I could say the same to you. You sound obsessed with trannies.

>> No.10599130 [DELETED] 

>>10599082
are you straight up ignoring this that came from the said individual that has a mental breakdown >>10587430

>> No.10599183 [DELETED] 

>>10598910
Other girls refer to Zen as Female. The other girls also hardcore support pronouns and other globo-homo shit. If Zen wasn't a tranny and just a guy pretending to be a girl then all the girls would be liers and guilty of perpetuating Zen's bullshit.

>> No.10599236 [DELETED] 

>>10598965
>h-having female p-pronouns
g-got a s-screenshot of this?
or did you just make it up?

>> No.10599269

>>10592016
Based

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>>10599130
English, motherfucker! Speak it!

>> No.10599378

>>10599183
>The other girls also hardcore support pronouns
But none of them have them in their bios except Froot and even that's only since she recently became a vtweeter

>> No.10599432 [DELETED] 

>>10599090
>y-you are just obsessed
every time

>> No.10599436 [DELETED] 

>>10599130
>mental breakdown = tranny
retard

>> No.10599524

>>10595762
It's a fucking react streamer, that is unable to react, you cannot make this shit up, it's like a parody. I can't believe people watch this.

>> No.10599531 [DELETED] 

>>10599432
That really hit a nerve, huh?

>> No.10599634 [DELETED] 

>>10598910
I'm saying he isn't a tranny. He's a 'cis male'. He doesn't want to reveal that because he knows he'd lose his newer, larger fanbase of retard simps.
>>10599183
>people call biological men women
So what? The girls play along because they are coworkers and they will get some fallout for outing him/caught lying about his gender(the latter is safer for vshojo because they can claim he never told them).

>> No.10599643 [DELETED] 

>>10599531
You meant the post you replied to first?
Think before posting tranny

>> No.10599770 [DELETED] 

>>10599643
Keep seething

>> No.10599778

>>10599634
Because a bunch of streamers gas-lighting there entire fanbase to help one other their friends/coworker succeeded is kind of fucked

>> No.10599850 [DELETED] 

ITT fags who can't cope with someone using a TTS and not being a "tranny"

>> No.10599936

Can someone catch me up as to why everyone hates Zen so much here? To my understanding he isn't trans, just a person playing a character? I can understand the TTS being grating after a while, but I always kinda thought it added to the humor. Even if Zen were trans, I never got SJW vibes from him?

>> No.10600016

>>10599936
his vtwittering.

>> No.10600018 [DELETED] 

>>10599850
>yells trans rights trans rights
>started career on vrchat
>not a tranny
not buying it boyo

>> No.10600044

>>10599936
95% shitflinging for the sake of it, 5% shitflinging because of some perceived slight like fucked up collabs or not living up to their image of vtuber

>> No.10600092 [DELETED] 

>>10600018
>saying trans rights makes you trans
are you incapable of intellectual thought?

>> No.10600114 [DELETED] 

>>10600092
>are you incapable of intellectual thought?
No, but you obviously are.

>> No.10600162 [DELETED] 

>>10600000

>> No.10600170 [DELETED] 

>>10600114
>no u

>> No.10600207 [DELETED] 

>>10600092
is that the hill you want to die on
who gives a fuck anyway he is getting booted out of vshojo for getting them blacklisted by 2 vtuber groups for being a dumbass

>> No.10600215

>>10599936
Vtubering is 95% GFE. No one wants to be deceived by a male pretending to be female for personal gain.

>> No.10600240 [DELETED] 

>>10600018
There's a not insignificant number of regular ass sheep that parrot the 'trans rights' shit because they're sheep and/or they're looking for clout.
Come the fuck on.

>> No.10600251 [DELETED] 

>>10600092
>intellectual thought
It is impossible to be an intellectual and support LGBTQ rhetoric

>> No.10600252 [DELETED] 

>>10600170
You literally replied to me with a "U RRR SO STUPID" comment and now you just reply with no u?
Kill yourself tranny boy

>> No.10600300 [DELETED] 

>>10600092
>>10600251
>purposely ignore all the other facts
ywnbaw

>> No.10600322 [DELETED] 

>>10600207
which groups?

>> No.10600347 [DELETED] 

>>10600322
VOMS and nijiEN

>> No.10600440 [DELETED] 

>>10600347
Kek. They collabed with niji since and if you think Pika would turn down the chance to collab with Mousey again you're out of your mind

>> No.10600447 [DELETED] 

>>10600240
This. No straight male IRL that isn't looking for social clout gives a fuck about trans rights, as if that's a real concept.

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If Zen needs therapy it should come her. We will sort the tranny out in no time.

>> No.10600748

>>10600670
Don't shitpost with my oshi's picture

>> No.10600808 [DELETED] 

THEAD IS GETTING NUKED! I REPEAT! JANNIES INCOMING!!!

>> No.10600947

>>10597653
I've been told that the TTS was what made zen clippable and a big factor of how they climbed up to where they are. Besides the clippability there is some utility in essentially being completely anonymous the ability to switch who is controlling it with almost no repercussion can be valuable

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>>10591976
Collabing with a TTS vtuber is boring. I said it in the last thread, but I can understand why nobody wants to collab with microsoft sam.

>> No.10601016

>>10600947
Use masculine pronouns

>> No.10601019 [DELETED] 

>all posts labeling him a tranny gets deleted
And this is why this board is rapidly declining in quality. Can't call a spade a spade without meidos treating this place like a subreddit.

>> No.10601059

>>10599936
>attention whore
>politics
>terrible collab host
>the pekora sub scandal
there's enough to hate him

>> No.10601293

>>10601059
pekora sub scandal? what did I miss now?

>> No.10601362

>>10601016
I'm referring to two people retard

>> No.10601419

>>10598709
Well said

>> No.10601442

>>10592013
He actually ghosted my oshi

>> No.10601444 [DELETED] 

Fire all shit jannies from this place. It looks like they got new ones. Saying "__%" is bannable? Get a fucking grip you spastic freak.

>> No.10601494

>>10601442
Actually Zen's next stream after that "nobody will collab with me" she said "Now I have 100 collabs to worry about. I don't know how, but I'm gonna do it"

>> No.10601628

>>10587430

only narcisist fuckers scream this attentionwhore shit publicly while they're bathing in ungrateful success
just take a quiet hiatus you piece of dogshit
I hate people like this guy

>> No.10601952

>>10598709
oh yeah anon, not keeping people up to date is a great way to handle things.
telling people your going on break for mental reasons is just keeping your fans informed about your whereabouts because theyll ask regardless.
she didnt say what caused it, just that it happened and she wont be able to stream for while.
also your acting like having a little narcissism is a bad thing, narcissism is only bad when you have too much of it that it causes more problems then it solves.
honestly anon, youre acting like keeping things bottled up is a good thing, your thinking is what causes things to get worse for people because they wont actually acknowledge there is a problem.
being willing to tell people what your going through is better for everyones mental health as people feel better about themselves knowing they're not alone, why do you think theres mental health awareness.
and dont pull the "dont bring things i dont like into my entertainment" because i doubt you even watch her for her to be considered "your entertainment.

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>>10601444
Anything that doesn't toe the line with the currently popular propaganda gets you warnings now. It's fucking ridiculous.

>> No.10602231

>>10601293
basically someone (can't remember who) gifted a subscription to Pekora (supposedly), Zen went then to brag on *eddit . Then everyone told him you don't need to be watching a stream to get a gift.
I think in the last deleted thread about this there's the actual screencap of that moment

>> No.10602348

>>10598400
because having a meltdown it's far more a delicate question to handle than a sore throat you tard

>> No.10602416

>>10595762
>her

>> No.10602431 [DELETED] 

>>10602119
wtf that post is on-topic, the anon was talking about zen, a vtuber.
jannies please just focus on deleting off-topic or bait threads and reported post, your job is to filter the pointless trash to keep the rest of the trash readable, not kill all the 4chanism.
the point of this site is freedom of speech, even if anons are wrong about something, deleting their post wont help.

>> No.10602470

>>10602431
oh you innocent summer child.

>> No.10602484

>>10601952
>being willing to tell people what your going through is better for everyones mental health
Cool, tell it to your friends and family: the people who are suppose to care. Afterwards, tell your fans you had a mental break down and raise awareness that way.

>> No.10602487

why even announce this? it's TTS so couldn't you just hire someone else to stand in for you while you took some time off?

>> No.10602531

>>10602487
Noon you dont understand!! It wouldn't be the same person behind the TTS!!

>> No.10602535 [DELETED] 

>>10602119
Mostly happens on this board and /a/ only. Hiro probably didn't care about these boards that much so he hired some run off the mill redditor as a janny. He's constantly refreshing this thread and guarding it like his life depended on it so you know he's not from here kek.

>> No.10602571 [DELETED] 

>>10602535
Watch this post get deleted to prove you right.

>> No.10602576

>>10587430
Hey anon when you repost this again, put a red border around the image. Make the image more eye catching. I'll give you another (You) for it.

>> No.10602608

>>10602484
i mean she did do that with the tweet anon

>> No.10602617

When did Zentreya suddenly become a protected topic that can't be discussed? And no, posts that gush sympathy for him over all of his self-inflicted bullshit isn't a discussion.

>> No.10602627

>>10602484
Yeah it's definitely not a good idea to invite public scrutiny and rratcrafting the way Zen did with that tweet, it's just gonna add more fuel to their psychosis knowing that there's shitheads on the internet laughing at you and imagining how fucked up you are

>> No.10602711 [DELETED] 

>>10602571
Don't even need to be proven right, everyone with eyes already knows this is the case if they've been here for more than a week.

>> No.10602786

>>10595762
Question from a spic. Why don't you have much better voices for your TTS anglos. I have yet to see an english voice that reaches the excellence of Jorge.
It's incredible how this guy has a 3D setting but doesn't use the full potential of it.

>> No.10602833

>>10602617
Zen probably saw this thread and cried to a janny

>> No.10602876

>>10602617
>ONLY I GET TO DECIDE WHAT IS AND ISNT DISCUSSION!

>> No.10602878

>>10602535
There is definitely a tranny janny here.

>> No.10602904

>>10602786
we do have better TTS voices but zen defined herself with that one so shes basically stuck with that shitty voice.
>>10602833
if zens looking at 4chan rn, shes clearly not taking care of her mental health

>> No.10602907

>>10602786
TTS voice quality isn't something the public has any say or control over. How they sound is up to the company that makes them and since there's far more scrutiny over the ENG side of the things than the other languages the ENG voices end up sounding pretty bad. You're better served using a britbong TTS voice than you are a US-based TTS.

>> No.10602920

>>10602904
he's*

>> No.10602931

Uh oh tranny janny is on a rampage. Don't let the post deletions distract you from the fact you and Zentreya will never be women

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Busy thread, huh

>> No.10602936

>>10602904
>she

>> No.10602948

>>10602876
If you want to suck Zen's theoretical dick and tell him that none of the consequences of his actions are actually his fault then take it to Twitter where that shit belongs.

>> No.10602956

>>10602904
Actually she used to have a Russian accent TTS voice and switched to the British one later

>> No.10602974

>>10587430
Don’t know who this is but I’m sorry to hear it. Hope she feels better soon

>> No.10602977

>>10602948
>HEADCANON
Ah yes, nice """discussion"""

>> No.10602985

>>10602535
>>10602878
There has been a tranny jannie here since the start. Don't you remember the Shartemis threads at the start?

>> No.10602994

Remember not to refresh to see all the posts!

>> No.10603037

>>10602994
>not using 4x

>> No.10603045

>>10602974
Should’ve read the thread first (or what’s left of it) — I take back my well wishes. Or, rather, I still wish him well but mental breakdowns are an inevitable outcome for Xim

>> No.10603068

>>10603045
Just kidding after rerereading the thread Zen did nothing wrong.

>> No.10603088 [DELETED] 

>>10603068
lol nice try nigger

>> No.10603134

>>10603068
nice try

>> No.10603165

>>10603068
>>10603088
>>10603134
All me :^)

>> No.10603193

>break rules
>post gets deleted
>WOW WHY IS MY POST GETTING DELETED?!?!?

>> No.10603195

>aeiouaeiouaeiouaeiouaeiouaeiou
>uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
>holla holla get dollar
What did she mean by this?

>> No.10603200

Be a good person

>> No.10603204

>>10595473
aeiou

>> No.10603251

Whoay, a tranny undergoing a mental breakdown. How remarkable and unusual! This never happens!

>> No.10603278

If a person with a broken mind has a mental breakdown, does it become a double-negative and make them sane again?

>> No.10603346

>>10603193
>be a tranny
>gets called a tranny
>NOOO YOU CANT CALL HIM THAT IM GOING INSANE AAAAAAAA

>> No.10603391

>>10603346
deleted

>> No.10603410

>>10593245
>Press the record button and play video games while occasionally acknowledging some retard in your chat
My god they do have it rough

>> No.10603439

asking sincerely knowing i will probably get a lot of insincere or baseless answers but is zentreya actually trans or a guy or whatever or is it just an assumption based on the text to speech voice?

i don't really watch them or have any skin in the game because their vtuber rig is fucking ugly as shit but i've wanted to know for a while what is "known" about them

>> No.10603483

>>10593245
>or join a company
both kaira and kson pretty much debunked this.
If you arent used to indie work being on a company will burn you out without the experience

>> No.10603554

>>10603439
Regular guy.
Read the thread.

>> No.10603655

>>10603439
Tranny.
Read the thread.

>> No.10603683

>>10603410
idk anon, the on-job may be easy enough but the off-job shit they have to do isnt, imagine managing a fanbase, do you see how bad fans can get?
>>10603439
most people call zen a tranny because the default is that everyone on the internet is a guy until proven otherwise and people cant believe someone would use TTS if they were a girl

>> No.10603700

>>10603439
Actual viewer here, it's not really known, there's lots of rrats but no proof one way or the other that I've ever seen, all these other fags in the thread are just gonna say she's a tranny because it's funnier

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>>10603683
i see. my first thought was that maybe they were mute or something because i know a girl who is, but the way that it's timed in what little i've seen doesn't feel like TTS.

>>10603554
>>10603655

>> No.10603874

>>10603683
That doesn't make Zen a tranny though? Are you calling Ito Life and Tomari Mari and Tamaki trannies too? Men using female models in games and stuff has been a thing since before the modern trans movement.

>> No.10604047

>>10603850
I know an actual mute female VR chatter and then Vtuber, you could tell because they fucking used sign language all the time & not text to speech.
Zen on the other hand did a "voice reveal" once, so either they did a fake voice reveal to the audience & for some reason they're actually mute, it's real and they have a female's voice, or it's fake & they're also not mute but just didn't want to use their real voice. Either way the probability of "mute" is the most slim for Zen.

>> No.10604065

>>10587430
How the fuck do you get to the point of having a mental breakdown just because you didn't earn a collab? Can't you just be satisfied with your current pool of viewers? You're literally having an easy life.

>> No.10604087

>>10604047
yeah unfortunately i feel like vr chat, much less vtubing, does not lend itself very well to much sign language

>> No.10604170

Does vshojo even have managers? I'm pretty sure a manager would have told Zen about DMCA problems with youtube and how it can get you a strike.
Isn't this supposed to be a vtuber group? Why the fuck noone helped him organizing and giving him tips to do well.
I have no idea how this absolute shitshow of a group will manage to have a new gen without collapsing by internal drama

>> No.10604217

>>10604065
>just because you didn't earn a collab
It doesn't say that anywhere? There been other things like I think their mom died not to long ago.

>> No.10604293

>>10589356
To be open and transparent with her fans.

>> No.10604344

>>10604087
Well certainly. You get used to it though. The mute vtuber I'm talking about, her Half-Life Alyx playthrough had 0 words spoken but was entertaining as fuck. I don't even understand sign language.

>> No.10604426

>>10604170
They are not a vtuber group like Niji or Holo though. They don't report to anyone, VShoujo is basically like their management company that helps them take care of stuff on the backend and can provide help if asked, in return they pay them some sort of monthly fee or something to be represented by them and for their services. So even if one of their advisors did tell Zen to stop fucking doing something, they can just totally ignore them at their own peril.

>> No.10604510

>>10603683
Good thing Zen didn't claim to be a girl

>> No.10604563

>>10604344
Gimme a name bitch

>> No.10604567

>>10587430
I want to be sympathetic even if a vtuber I don't care about has mental shit, but what a way to talk about it.
Just say you're going on hiatus and say why later IF you decide you need to.
Doing it like this sounds like the "This is Josh's mom he ran in front of a car etc." shit, except for collabs instead of dating.
That said, everyone should go to therapy even if there's nothing wrong with you. It's like getting a check-up regularly. Although if you're here there probably is something wrong with you anyway.

>> No.10604760

>>10604567
Heard some people do that even if they are alright.

I don't know how I'd start tho, lmao. Do I just go there and be like "Hey, how are ya ;)" or what

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normally, Babiniku usually are bro-tier who'd use their avatars ironically and that's mostly their appeal. I don't understand why westernshitters can't comprehend that simple fact. It always have to devolve into bodypolitik evangelical sessions

>> No.10604877

>>10604763
I mean, Zen never really talked about her gender though. I've seen some trans vtubers that can't shutup about it. Zen did expose themselves as left leaning on Jan 6 with some now deleted tweets, but for the most part they never even approach the topic

>> No.10604938

>>10604170
VShojo is a project by a bunch of friends to own a professional platform while not actually changing anything organization-wise, the "management" exists to be a charity service and middle-man between the girls and professional ventures, while only taking a small cut from them while they continue to do whatever they please.
Theoretically this is pretty functional for a start-up but the mistake they made (which everyone criticized them for when they revealed themselves) was that more than half their roster were already self-made and successful but those girls were not part of the management structure in the backend, and it painted the picture that VShojo exists just for this close-knit group to get professional clout and isn't actually the benevolent start-up it really claimed to be, and it shows in their actions as there's virtually no management helping the girls behave for a professional setting.
It's also probably very telling that Zen's outbursts are going out to the public and not just sticking to whatever discord chat they have where there's supposed to be a support network with friends and management.

It's going to be VERY interesting to see how the new generation pans out.

>> No.10604966

>>10595499
>>10596000
I had never heard of Connor before that podcast. And I instantly hated him because he kept asking Calli loaded questions about how shitty vtuber fans are. Kept asking about how hard she was faking shit. And kept asking if management was treating her well.
All questions she dodged because why the fuck would she want to piss off her viewers, her employer and riskin doxing herself.
I really can't tell if that faggot is braindead or malicious. In any case any vtuber that's smart should stay clear of him because he's probably a ticking metoo timebomb.

>> No.10605155

a question mark exclamation point question mark exclamation point question mark exclamation point question mark exclamation point question mark exclamation point question mark exclamation point question mark exclamation point

>> No.10605265

>>10604877
Whats with these people and their fixation to sperg at a nothingburger? The capitol incident was nothing but e-celebs and boomers having a party. God I fucking hate twittards. None of them are authentic and would repeat talking points to get likes

>> No.10605289

>>10594710
>tech used
its a fucking shitty iPhone app that works worse than the shit indies use cover needs to get out their own ass

>> No.10605320

>>10604563
The mute sign language streamer I'm talking about is the twitch streamer Tyriss. Her Vtuber avatar is just the same as her VRchat avatar btw, but yeah. Here's a fair warning though, if you don't like the game she's playing on a certain stream, you probably won't like that stream because it's a bit hard to carry a boring game when you're mute. I haven't really cared for any of her streams the past few weeks.
However, her VR streams are gold. Her being mute has made her skill at non-verbal communication so golden, that's why I loved her Half Life Alyx stream from like a year ago the most, the amount of nonverbal gags she was able to do with just the game's engine was unparalled to anything I've seen before. Unfortunately the VOD is dead cause twitch is a fucking garbage website. Her normal game streams are more a hit or miss, but when she streams VR games she's a top-tier streamer. Wish there were more quality VR games to be honest.

>> No.10605815

>>10605320
>Wish there were more quality VR games to be honest
the headset owners' experience

>> No.10606523

>>10587430
I used to play VRchat with this dude, no idea why he went full mute because he talked back then

>> No.10606794

>>10604966
>braindead or malicious
yes

>> No.10606924

>>10603874
>>10604510
trust me i know, im not claiming she is, im just saying the reason other anons are say she is

>> No.10607609

If you twitter search "zentreya tts" without the quotes you'll find a couple "mean" replies he got a few days ago, maybe that caused it

>> No.10607948

>>10602608
Twitter followers =\= close friends and family

>> No.10608121

>>10590478
You realize those get 1/3 of the viewers VS gets, right?

>> No.10608771

>>10608121
nta but i like to numberfag from time to time out of curiosity. It's insane how many people don't realize the numbers VShojo pulls. They mog all but the top Hololive members by thousands

>> No.10612042

>>10587430
I think he got caught doing some pedo shit, most troons are anyway so its par for the course

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>>10589249
fuckin' kek

>> No.10612166

>>10589593
>them
him*

>> No.10612309

>>10590251
>decency
this is the same group that cuts kids dicks off
your kind dont care about decency when you do that, do you?

>> No.10612475

>>10587430
Only to be expected.

Trannies have something like a 50% suicide attempt rate. Almost all of them are bat shit crazy.

>> No.10612505

>>10595473
Brbrbrbrbrbrbr

>> No.10612647

>>10593168
pomu apologized and calmed her fanbase because pomudachis were itching to destroy hakura and completely doxx her to dismantle her career, kek.
you should see hakura's twitter after that. pomu wrangled her base well or it could've gone bad for hakura.

>> No.10613718

Nice baits anons

>> No.10613964

>>10612647
Where are you even getting that? Pomu apologized for the collab being boring and scuffed, not Haruka. She also said said she'd make a safe for youtube supercut of the VOD but probably later realized that would be stupid and pointless and extra work since anyone who really really cared could watch one of the like 7 POVs still up on Twitch.

>> No.10614269

>>10613964
I dont care what pomu says , she's at a company in the end which restricts her from acting a certain way, especially a reputed company.
her fanbase was absolutely SEETHING and ready for war. you sound like a troon downplaying your shitty collab. go kys please

>> No.10614447

>>10614269
Are you her fanbase or something? Sounds like YOU were mad and are projecting it on them to me.

>> No.10614670

>>10595762
And people make fun of kronii's silence during streams, this is awful.

>> No.10614752 [DELETED] 

>>10587430
Oh no bros, the thing I've always feared most. She's joining the 41%. I knew this day would come...

>> No.10614767

>>10614447
yes, I am. you're a troon who is talking FOR us and how we should feel. go rape a kid or something and leave this thread alone, troon

>> No.10614923

>>10614767
>No argument or evidence of his claim
>Y-Your just a tranny!!!
Oh no my feelings are so hurt

>> No.10615186

>>10614923
>No argument
I gave you an argument? you're just saying we werent mad because your rotten wound wants to downplay it?
I gave you a reason why were mad, why we calmed down after pomu talked about the stream and said everyone to forget it.
all your dilated wound has done is say "thats not true". why dont you learn about proper biology before you talk about human emotions and complicated stuff, ok?

>> No.10615239

>>10612647
Haruka's fanbase is even bigger than Pomu's. Not to mention doxxing Pomu is easier since everyone knows who she was before. Her own fanbase would've killed her lel.

>> No.10615364

>>10615239
never said who was bigger? and I agree haruka is "bigger" but the point of "going to war" still stands

>> No.10615428

>>10615186
>why were mad
You mean "why we're mad". Do your English reps ESL. Also capitalize the first letter of a new sentence.

>> No.10615541

>>10615364
>go to war
>lose horribly
I mean I guess if your Wimp-Lo that's a good idea.

>> No.10615782

>>10615541
still doesnt change anything troon

>>10615428
>loses the argument
>malds about grammar on 4ch
>addicted to phone posts that he wants a capital after a period
kek
also why dont you follow your own advice
>Do your English reps, ESL.
if you're going to attack someone's english, I suggest you nail your commas first, troon.

>> No.10616198

guys please stop fighting, think about the tranny who's cutting his wrists right now

>> No.10616470

>>10615782
I never get people who attack someone's grammar or spelling or writing proficiency on 4chan. Like, do they expect people to write formally and not lazily? Other websites or communities I could perhaps understand. On /vt/ though? Makes no sense. Non native speakers care more about grammar and shit than native speakers ever do, the greatest sign of being an American is a person write likes shit and makes basic grammar mistakes that elementary schoolers would correct them for.

>> No.10616583

>>10616198
Stop cutting your wrists then

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>>10587430
Go for the New World Order Globalist transexualizing and mutilating every organism in the ecosystem.
An exterminist extraterrestrial has been confirmed. Join with the USA against the organized crime that is the United Nations.

Filter your drinking water and get massage for you and your to make sure the chemicals that transexualize children in the womb are removed from all your persons.
https://prooneusa.com/

>> No.10628604

>>10604877
Buddy if you think not liking an armed coup attempt is left leaning you might need to lay off the kool aid.

>> No.10629256

>>10604217
but zen specifically said there "on sunday". zen had multiple tweets last sunday breaking down about collabs and other stuffs. so many would assume that's the reason.

>> No.10629325

How many of these threads do we need?

>> No.10629520

>>10629325
You're dredging up a thread made over 12 hours ago to ask why others are making similar threads?
Are you okay? Do you have brain damage?

>> No.10629626

>>10629520
Look at the time of the post before mine retard
Maybe check yourself for brain damage

>> No.10630413

NO MEN

>> No.10632107

>>10595762
>>10597599
Believe it or not. The biggest appeal of Zen isn't "her" voice. It's "her: chat that likes to toy with "her". Also "she" can dance. So... that's something.

>> No.10632343

>>10598887
>could never in any life respect someone taking time off for reading mean words on the internet and especially when they brought it on themselves.
Zen didn't have a meltdown because of mean words. It was severe self deprecation and a lack of faith in their work.

>> No.10632563

>ruins collab with corpo group
>spergs out when he can't collab with biggest vtuber corp
get a load of this guy!

>> No.10632677

>>10587430
>Without going too much into detail
Reporting a mental breakdown is already too much information

>> No.10633167

>>10587430
This is obviously just attention whoring
Why mention this at all instead of saying you are sick? Yeah, that's right, attention.
He kept crying that no one would collab with him while 1000 of indies said they wanted to collab.
He don't care about small indies though he just want the big names

>> No.10633324

>>10587430
Oh boo hoo, go cry for attention somewhere else

>> No.10633549

>>10587430
Thanks for making that 8th thread about it, I wasn't sure I read it right the 7 previous times.

>> No.10634365

>>10632677
>Reporting a mental breakdown is already too much information
Yup. Also, "until therapy is given"...what? Does Zen just expect to lie back on the couch and say, "Therapy me up, Doc! I'm ready to get my mental health on!"

>> No.10635746

>>10634365
Unironically this is how the American mental health system works. The psychiatrist just pumps you full of drugs as it's cheaper and less time consuming than actually solving the problem

>> No.10635863

>>10587430
more proof that male and female vtubers shouldn't collaborate

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>>10587430
>organize the worst collab in the history of vtubers, maybe the worst collab ever
>most of participants, who aren't very outgoing just stay silent for the most of the collab while others screech and yell
>tech issues all around
>"FORGETS" about DMCA
>WAAAAH WHY WON'T ANYONE COLLAB WITH ME ANYMOREEEE
It's true, isn't it? All troons are mentally retarded.

>> No.10635937

>>10604763
>haha bro I'm vtubing Ironically
Get out

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>>10602608
>she

>> No.10639854

Pero like is this foo going to graduate?

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>>10628604
>armed coup attempt
>jan 6

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>this whole thread

>> No.10640689

>>10592298
>Silvervale
before her new teeth made her look like a tall 15yo girl that went back to high school

>> No.10641157

>>10602487
Exactly

>> No.10641912

>>10614269
>she's at a company in the end which restricts her from acting a certain way
Nigga you lost? Hololive is <--- way.

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