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10353971 No.10353971 [Reply] [Original]

How much does being in character or keeping Kayfabe matter to you when it comes to a vtubber?

>> No.10354358

The young bucks are ruining wrestling

>> No.10354453

not a lot

it's a good mood setter for a stream, but i don't expect them to keep it up on all the time.

it's nice to have running gags and stuff that are in character to help keep it going.

>> No.10354466

Always. To be more precise, it matters that chuuba knows when to be strict or loose with the kayfabe.

>> No.10354537

You should probably be aware of how much of your real self you let leak out

>> No.10354538

>>10353971
Not really. But if they want to do Kayfabe, I prefer they fully committed to it like Mayuzumi.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CaQqmgul3wE

>> No.10354709

>>10354538
Explain

>> No.10354789

>>10353971
better if they able to

>> No.10354851

It depends on the character, its obviously a lot easier to pretend to be a JK, a teacher or a programmer than it is to pretend to be a dragon.
I think in general the more realistic aspects of the character should be maintained.

>> No.10354928

As long as it's entertaining. Give me more chuuni chuuba pls.

>> No.10355238

>>10353971
Moderately. Like keep it up, but no need to try hard about it. It's all in good fun after all. But still, I am here for the anime girl larp at least a little.

>> No.10355307

>>10353971
Not much, since I know the kayfabe is fake.
Very few vtuber can keep up the kayfabe and I respect them for it, but it doesn't really make a difference.
Just being yourself is the best.

>> No.10355437

>>10353971
I like when their personality and the kayfabe can mesh well.

>> No.10355559

>Anon's oshi broke OBS 300 times, and never drew a dime

>> No.10355573

The character and backstory are meant to help build a foundation of inside jokes and culture around the specific vtuber at the debut. How much they want to lean on it after they get comfortable with the gig is up to them. I see it as a something they can use to fall back on if they can't think of anything in a moment where they feel the need to be filling dead air.

>> No.10356245

>>10353971
Not that much but I like It, from time to time say something related to your lore like "I'm a ghost after all guys I can ser other ghost" when playing a horror game for example and I'm satisfated.

>> No.10356473
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>>10353971
It's important to me if it's interesting or funny. Otherwise if there's little to no kayfabe I don't mind at all.
>>10354709
There's a full summary somewhere in the archives but his lore is an orphan hacker under the tutelage of his sensei, over the last 2 years he investigated some Nijisanji virus related to streaming that also involved other people (as in they joined along with his lore for over a year with original characters included even), to the point where even outfit reveals and 3D was lore related, until one day he realized he's actually a virtual person. Sometime later after this sensei showed up and said cryptic shit about his existance, he held a poll whether to join the guy and enter the real world, or delete him and stay in the virtual world, and his fans picked delete, and Mayuzumi got corrupted. Then he went on a long break. Then he posted some ARG to find coordinates in Japan. Then he had that billboard event (that video) across 2 or 3 cities (those girls in the front are idols from Iwanaga's project he started after leaving Nijisanji) where he wondered about the virtual world and the real world complete with a new outfit designed by K-SUWABE. He held a poll to ask whether Mayuzumi should be rebuilt or to send him off to reality and fans voted 5050. Then he came back with a white version of his corrupted version.

>> No.10357463

Almost 0%. I respect those who can stick to it like Luna but I don't need them to. I'm OK with them just leaning on lore to get around roommate shit.

>> No.10359105

>>10356473
based edgelord

>> No.10359544

>>10353971
Used to be. Now it's just streamer/youtuber with an anime character. There are still those who kayfabe though minimal.

>> No.10360475

>>10356473
I was going to say that Luna is the New Jack of vtubers.

>> No.10360609

>>10360475

How?

>> No.10360836

the most popular vtuber ever Gawr Gura has started to acknowledge her dropping of kayfabe. she's literally the most popular ever. it doesn't matter at all.

>> No.10364930

>>10360609
She had her ass eaten by Terri Runnels.

>> No.10365597

>>10355238
Based, you nailed it. It's nice to see that this board is not only full of unicorns and unironical shizos

>> No.10370603

>>10353971
If you have a character beyond "yourself with an avatar" then you should try and stay in it.

>> No.10373541

>>10353971
It matters
Case in point: Pekora

>> No.10374048

I don't know what kayfabe means.

>> No.10378702

>>10374048
wrestling term for "in character"

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>>10353971

>> No.10378907

>>10378702
/vt/ should be merged with /pw/.

>> No.10379059

>kayfabe is dark demonlord from an alternate dimension
>spend most of the stream screaming like every other 24 year old nerd as he loses another Guilty Gear match

>> No.10379602

A anime png is enough to be a vtuber. Canan is also a vtuber, stay mad incels.

>> No.10383963

>>10353971
It's whatever you make it. Some people dawn an avatar with the full premise and intention of having a "character" while others simply indulge it for the appearance. Personally, I could care less as I don't always enjoy it considering how saturated it feels to watch countless western women pretend they're some otherworldly 2D anime character that definitely didn't come home from their wage job at Walmart to stream. I do understand going under a new identity is the point of the entire virtual avatar tho so a backstory, character description and a lil RP here and there usually don't bother me at all

>> No.10386606

>>10354928
even harder to keep up

>> No.10386725

Yozora Mel was raped in the sweltering hot summer of 2019

>> No.10386770

>>10356473
What was Uiha's lore?

>> No.10386815

>>10386725
stop spreading fake news

>> No.10387287
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10387287

Vtubing has yet to show any real innovation, beyond cute anime girls.

Dont tell me bullshit like some guy with a dog, acting like a dog on camera or some bullshit. Nothing creative at all about that, besides some flashy tech and then being a streamer.

The only vtubing that makes sense right now, is one thing. Anime girls streaming. That's the catch, that's what people like to see. EN Vtubing, especially myth, completely succeeded with this.

Its been done to death in japan, but we had no catering to this desire to see a livestreaming anime girl play games, only translated clips such as miko saying the nword that got viral, because of how genuinely like an anime-girl she was. It was convincing.

Not a jpeg, or some normal japanese woman talking, but a genuinely cute, sonorous, pleasant voice cliche anime girl saying 'nig~gaaa'

That's where the real subs come in.

Gura behaves unbelievably like an anime girl, its hard to believe she isnt one. Same with Korone, Pekora, Rushia, Mori and despite the drop off from this level, Ame, Ina, and Kiara when behave like cute, or dommy, or tough, or submissive anime girls. Cheery, laughy, emotional, or cool, thats the real act.

This is the 'kayfabe'. the illusion is that they need to keep pretending or being an anime girl for an hour or however long they stream. Being bored or silent, and slipping into acting like a normal unassuming human habits is what breaks the illusion.

I have to give it to Myth for their incredible work in this, once you realise. The absolute lack of moments of acting like a normal person for even a minute on stream.

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>>10386770
Not sure of the whole logistics but there was a big exposition at the end of her 3D stream, where it showed her (lore) mom being sick, her dad working on something, Uiha holding a doll, then she gets in a car accident and some soul transferring business happens, and it's the explanation for her doll outfit named Mia. So the Aiba Uiha genki idol we know is actually a dream version of Uiha.

>> No.10387671

>>10387287
i didn't read anything but I already know what you wrote is retarded

>> No.10388160

>>10387664
O-Oh, that's pretty fucking morbid

>> No.10388585

>>10387671
basically if you think kayfabe doesnt matter, you obviously misunderstand what the kayfabe is.

Just like WWE needs jacked roided guys to pretend they hate each other, hololive needs naturally cute, nice-voice girls who need to be anime girls for a couple hours

Not everyone is cut for the big leagues.

>> No.10388969

>>10356473
Easily my one of my favorite vtubers of all time. His ARG arc was like a fever dream.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0YRDlV0Dyo

>> No.10389581

>>10388585
Ok, but for JP, literally only people who don't understand Japanese think they're anime. They don't sound like anime. Even the ones with weird voices or moe voices don't sound like anime. the subs who think of them as anime girls, which you refer to as the "real subs", are the ones that barely watch. gachi-koi and dedicated fans don't think of them as anime girls. most of the keyfabe, besides particular vtubers who play characters different from the normal selves, is typically just exaggerated versions of their normal personality and normal weird parts. Like it's more they're entertainers and the important part is to keep up the entertaining act occasionally. The only ones where keeping up real kayfabe matters are the ones who have kayfabe completely different to their normal selves. The people who just act themselves, the kayfabe doesn't matter, being entertaining just matters, and all the kayfabe was is just what normal streamers do. be slightly more entertaining on stream than in their normal lives. Only people who watch too little care about actual kayfabe.

>> No.10389718

>>10353971
Kayfabe is one of those things that feels like it shouldn't matter that much but once it's gone the entire point of having an avatar falls apart.

>> No.10390186

>>10387287
>genuinely like an anime-girl
what did he mean by this?

>> No.10390349

>>10353971
It's the very soul of being a vtuber. Without it you're just a normal person with an avatar
For many that's fine, but not me
Luna, Pekora, Kronii and Mumei are doing god's work

>> No.10390957

>>10389581
ill concede for JP bros, it probably doesnt mean anything, but also think its a weak rrat, because I KNOW that JP bros find Rushia, and Pekora incredibly cute, and have called them cute anime girls.

anyway I dont actually know the JP taste of vtubers, so take the W.

But I DO KNOW, for the west, the appetite is for real life anime girls streaming, made possible with talented cute voices behind flashy vr tech, to make this dream a reality.

The kayfabe, is feeding this appetite as your job role.

its not hard for a jacked guy to pretend he wants to kill other jacked guy in the ring on saturday night, all he has to do is announce he will kill that guy this saturday night, in front of the crowd, and then walk off set.

Similarly, its not hard for an already incredibly cute voiced girl, with cutesy behaviour and hobbies, or a otaku girl with a mommy voice, to put on some digital tits, and stand behind a cute mommy avatar, and start seducing male viewers.

This is the kayfabe at heart. I know its not seen as kayfabe, and some kayfabe can go to mad levels of immersion, but its the same as wwe hiring the newest wwe superfan who is also mega jacked and loves the genre, to play as the newest entree to the wwe lore.

HoloEN was a direct gourmet dinner to the appetite we had of cute anime girls in english.

>> No.10391310

>>10390186
It means he's a faggot for not citing Marine as a literal anime girl.

>> No.10391340

>>10354358
based

>> No.10391545

You guys are mistaking character lore for the fact that they're using animated models, everyone refers to them as anime characters or 2.5D but not all of them have character lore or stick to it. Simply being anime isn't kayfabe because they still talk about family life and home life and real life events.

>> No.10391689

>>10391545
The good ol' using roommate history for character lore

>> No.10391918

>>10391545
>Simply being anime isn't kayfabe because they still talk about family life and home life and real life events.

How does that make it not-anime? Anime girls do nothing BUT talk about their fuckin life.

It is kayfabe.
It isn't kayfabe, when they
>act tired, burp, fart, get offended, make viewing unpleasant in any way
they are selling themselves as anime girls. It is the core kayfabe.

>> No.10392050

>>10388969
It was based but it was way too close to his contract ending so I was too worried he was using it as a way to say goodbye, since Kasumi also graduated while being in the middle of lore (her acting was crazy, switching between 4 personalities)

>> No.10392828

>>10391918
>It isn't kayfabe, when they
>>act tired, burp, fart, get offended, make viewing unpleasant in any way
>they are selling themselves as anime girls.
what is this gold medal tier mental olympics incel thought process?
>anime girls can't burp, be tired, fart, get offended
Panty and Stocking does all of this in the first episode.

>> No.10393052

>>10391918
I'm not talking about the tiredness or farting or whatever I mean having your lore be a shrine maiden yet never acting like one.

>> No.10393098

@10392828
bruh holy shit your comment is so dishonest in argument and effeminate/gay, I simply cannot give you a (You).

>> No.10393197

>>10393052
who cares, the real kayfabe is that she can keep the cute anime girl act on stream, and she captured the fascination of the west with her nword clip.

>> No.10393336

I don't watch Vtubers to see their character.
I also don't watch Vtubers to see their actor
I watch Vtubers to see the actor playing the character.

>> No.10394061

>10393098
BUHUBUHBUHUBUHBUHBBUHBUHBH you're gay! haha gottem. good one anon you sure showed him.

>> No.10395113

>>10393336
>I watch Vtubers to see the actor playing the character.
Pretty much this.

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