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10101347 No.10101347 [Reply] [Original]

What is it about vtubers that look like little girls that attract so many adult males into watching?

>> No.10101372

>>10101347
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

>> No.10101404

>>10101347
Paternal instincts

>> No.10101473

>>10101347
Don't be sexist, a lot of adult women like loli too

>> No.10101942

>>10101347
>Anya
>Luna
>Wosemi

>> No.10102231

>>10101347
That artist is apparently female.

>> No.10102587

>>10101347
the average female attractiveness peaks at 12

>> No.10102618

>>10101347
UOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.10102637
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10102637

Its fun to imagine pumping them full of white goo

>> No.10102660

>>10101347
south & central americans

>> No.10102700
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10102700

>>10101347
sex

>> No.10102726

>>10101473
This unironically. They're usually just not outspoken about it and keep it private so they don't get cancelled

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10102856

>>10101347

>> No.10102879
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10102879

>>10101347

>> No.10103770

The overwhelming amount of loli artists are all women.
Hell I bet the women picked that model to live out their little girl fantasies.

>> No.10103908

>>10103770
Shiruka Bakaudon is a woman who draws loli rape/ryona manga.

>> No.10104052

>>10101347
This is likely what is happening:
1. VTubers are about being cute.
2. Normal Girl = cuter than men.
3. Little Girl in appearance = even cuter.
4. Little Girl in appearance saying the n-word while playing video games = extremely cute.

>> No.10104095

>>10102726
>Usually not outspoken
Wtf happened with Pika and Fubuki?

>> No.10104132

>>10104095
They know their EOP audience will freak out over "problematic age gaps"

>> No.10104137

I should say too, having a little girl design while she’s talking shit or whatever, can be very amusing, and therefore entertaining.

>> No.10104183

>>10101347
Is that Ririmu? She doesn't attract a lot of adult males or even a lot of anything. Her average viewers is barely 2k, lol. Nobody watches her.

>> No.10104194

I feel like that artist understands my panty fetishes perfectly. That slightly distressed cotton effect. Lovely.

>> No.10104221

>>10104183
Holobrony hands typed this

>> No.10104249

>>10104221
actually i watch better nijis.

>> No.10104283

>>10101347
The cunny effect is vastly overstated. Gura is the only actual successful cunny tuber. All the Niji lolis get awful viewership and even Hiyo barely gets 3 digits. Loli is a massive debuff.

>> No.10104369

>>10104283
I just like Gura because she's fun. I don't even see her as a "child". It's kind of weird to me that people do.

>> No.10104392

>>10104283
It’s a buff, but it also requires a personality to get the full bonus. Petra is terrible and not a lot watch NijiEN. But Rushia in HoloJP makes tons of SC.

>> No.10104429

>>10104249
Oh yeah like who

>> No.10104450

>>10101347
I'm starting to suspect it might be pedophilia.

>> No.10104461

>>10104392
I wouldn't really consider Rushia loli but I guess you could if your only standard is flat chest. Shion might be loli though so she could go with Gura as being a successful cunny tuber.

>> No.10104523
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10104523

>>10104429
my wife

>> No.10104560

>>10104369
I don't see Gura as a child, just as a midget.

>> No.10104566

>>10104137
True, watching chii-chan shred people in apex is a hilarious site since she's this cute loli.

>> No.10104591

>>10104461
If there's any debate about whether a female character is a loli or not, they're a loli. Petite women, to most people, are characters like Makise Kurisu from Steins;Gate, and good luck finding any lewd fanart of her where she's in any way small breasted.

>> No.10104618

>>10104369
On the contrary I think Gura is the most child like of them all. She has a unique timber to her voice that makes her sound like a child more than any fake high pitch ever could. She also acts dumb and scatter brained. I can't think anything other than child when I watch her.

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>>10104523
Don't shitpost with my oshi ya faggot.

>> No.10104674

>>10104369
She honestly comes across as someone playing a child or a teenager to me; I'm not sure how I'm the weird one for seeing that

>> No.10104686

>>10104618
I just think she's fun

>> No.10104749

>>10104095
>>10104132
Amano "Some people call me pedo, but I'm NOT. I can see why they would, but I'm NOT" Pikamee got more outspoken, if anything.
Not to mention her discussing it more openly (in English) in members' streams

>> No.10105410

REAL MEN like cute, feminine, bubbly, happy, girls who love them unconditionally little anime girls happen to provide this

>> No.10105481

>>10104749
Loli 101 with Pikamee!

>> No.10105690

>>10104461
Rushia, Shion, and Gura are the lolis of Hololive.

>> No.10105755

>>10105690
Anya too but Oppai loli is a niche that I'm not into.

>> No.10105848

>>10104618
>>10104686
She does the bratty little sister thing really well and almost all the fanart she chooses for thumbnails regresses her age.
>>10105755
Anya is too large both height and chest size. The only way she could be a loli is if she were canon a grade schooler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctqa5Exo860
They're the same age.

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>>10104749
I wonder, has Pikamee ever interacted with Ago?

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>>10104461
How the fuck Rushia manages to not be considered a loli by some while Shion and Gura always do is still a mystery to me.

>> No.10106389

>>10105755
She would have been great if only she accepted her fat tits.

>> No.10106404

>>10101347
Every single male is a pedophile just working on different levels of acceptance

>> No.10106460

>>10106366
Really?
>>9981928

>> No.10106472

>>10106366
Has to do with how they act. Gura and Shion actually act child like while Rushia's primary trait is the overly attached yandere.

Just purely on body type Rushia is absolutely loli but the way they act also plays a part.

>> No.10106908

>>10101372
fpbp

>> No.10107295

>>10102726
Are we living in the same universe?

>> No.10108118

>>10102637
cute lolibaba

>> No.10108177

>>10101347
They're cute and funny, Anon. What else would there be to it? I love them like a daughter.

>> No.10108529

>>10104183
Because for whatever reason, a lot of her fans catch her archives over streams. She occasionally hits 5 digit live views.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9EjSJ8pvxtvPdxLOElv73w/videos

>> No.10109856

>>10104749
is pedo the same thing as liking just fictional characters? pikamee just likes fictional characters right?

>> No.10109971

>>10104618
Honestly, is the whole explanation for her voice being that unique just timbre?

>> No.10110061

>>10102700
is that a

>> No.10110171

>>10103770
and a lot of proprietors of brothels are women. africans sold other africans to europeans as slaves.
My 12 year old brother molested the shit out of me though he himself was a child at the time.
so what's your point?

>> No.10110541

>>10109856
She only like 2D, yeah. That's what she meant by "I'm not, but I can see why someone would say that". She's not an actual pedo, but she understands why someone might go "lolicon = pedo" or assume her tweets about 9 year olds meant actual ones.
She might also take the word "pedo" less seriously than an English speaker would, for the same reason people prefer "lolicon" over here or JPs use "reipu" instead of the native word for sexual assault. Feels lighter in another language.

>> No.10110823

>>10110541
>JPs use "reipu" instead of the native word for sexual assault
False. There is no "native" word for rape in Japanese because they have no concept of rape as a crime or a moral failing. Source: hentai.

>> No.10110946

>>10110823
ok i believe you

>> No.10111485

>>10106366
Rushia's not a loli. She has a dedicated "loli" voice that's not her normal moe voice, artists that draw her as a loli draw her younger and more fatty than her avatar. She's actually just a small petite 2D moe blob which is not equivalent to a loli. As both a loli connoisseur and fandead, Rushia is not a loli.

>> No.10111512

>>10110171
your fault for being this smoking hot, femanon

>> No.10111763
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10111763

>>10101347
Males like the female form
Males do not like the female body
Why do you think sports cars are made to look like fertile females
FR layout cars are made to look like dicks though

>> No.10111846

>>10111763
anon likes women with wheels lmao

>> No.10111914

>>10110171
Tits or gtfo

>> No.10111945

>>10111846
>still no mid 2000s era tuner culture vtchuba with a decent set of wheels that can do 10s
Sadness

>> No.10112323

>>10111846
transformer vtuber when

>> No.10112537

>>10106366
Her head is slightly smaller which makes her look taller. It’s also why Mori looks freakishly tall in Myth.

>> No.10114132

>>10110171
Can you detail how he molested you

>> No.10114583

>>10106366
Russia is just a midget

>> No.10114919

>>10101347
More and more men are taking the cunnypill, can't imagine why.

>> No.10115587

>>10111763
I know you are joking, but I can't unsee it now. Someone should make a sports car vtuber.

>> No.10116000

>>10115587
I am not, a lot of sport cars do this trick to make them look prettier, usually mid or rear engine cars do this
While front engine rear drive cars go for the dick look (See dodge Viper, AMG GT-R, Mercedes-McLaren, etc)
Turns out guys are hard-wired to look at hips in a girl and dicks in a dude, so why not make cars out of those shapes?

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>>10104369
>Believes loli is a synonym for child
>>10104461
>I-if you're only looking at their f-flat chests...
>>10111485
>S-she has a d-dedicated loli voice!!
>As both a loli connoisseur and fandead
Touya himself talks about shit like this. Having a "dedicated loli voice" isn't what makes a loli or not.

God, I fucking hate when normalfags talk about lolis. They always say the same delusional shit to try to justify their cope. Because they believe when something is a loli, it must obviously be bad. Fucking fags.

>> No.10116554

>>10114132
for a $100 superchat i will

>> No.10117471

>>10116531
Fuck off. I've read hundreds of loli doujins, downloaded tons of loli fanart, even fucking read Lolita. Rushia's not portrayed as a loli nor treated as one. Dumbasses think pettan=loli. She's a ~16 petite Japanese high school freshmen in design. She barely has any qualities reminiscent of a loli besides being flat and small. None of the lolicons in Hololive talk about Rushia as if she's a loli. If you compare her avatar to petite japanese women she resembles them way more than a loli ever does. Loli has a fucking meaning and style to it besides "small" "flat".
You dumbasses probably consider the fucking K-Ons lolis. You would probably consider Aqua if didn't have boobs a loli as well. Loli has a fucking meaning and Rushia ain't it.

>> No.10118034

>>10116531
>>10117471
You are both seem quite unhappy, maybe even a little mad

>> No.10118079

>>10104591
>[Insert retard claiming the sorceress from Dragon's Crown is a lolicon fantasy]
It's almost as if idiots who have no idea what they're talking about can still speak openly about things they don't understand!

>> No.10118238

>>10102637
As much as I hate nyanners, i still love her loli design. Would hatefuck.

>> No.10118437

>>10118034
Isn't the point of /vt/ to have this sort of shit? If I wanted an actual discussion I'd go literally anywhere else. Instead I'm having fun being "angry" at strangers on the internet over topics that don't matter. Fuck you as well.

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>>10117471
Cope, faggot.
>Even fucking read lolita.
Lmao, fucking retard. Actually fell for the normalfag revisionist and re contextualizing talking points. You don't need to read that stinky old book. It's literally not even that related to fucking lolis. I bet you also believe that in order to be a lolicon you gotta want to fuck the lolis. I bet you even believe the direct translation of lolicon is pedophile. Holy fucking retard.

>> No.10118747

>>10118437
Alright, that clears it up. You're angry

>> No.10119069

>>10118708
NTA and am a lolicon. You're retarded. That's all.

>> No.10119171

>>10106404
I've always lusted for hags. I only read loli manga if the character is a lolibaba

>> No.10119769

>>10118708
Somebody who can't understand Nabokov will never appreciate Ichihaya. Of course, lolicons aren't actual pedophiles - 2D lolis have qualities and charm that 3D girls will never replicate. But you fuckers think moe-blobs qualify as lolis. Bet you think Hotaru from Non Non Biyori is a loli. Dumbass. Loli is a style - not "petite" and "small". I've watched years of japanese camgirls as well and will tell you Rushia's design resembles a flat Japanese teenager. She's not a loli dumbass. You'll never have the taste to appreciate what lolis truly are.

To quote a forerunner "A normal man given a group photograph of school girls or Girl Scouts and asked to point out the comeliest one will not necessarily choose the nymphet among them. You have to be an artist and a madman, a creature of infinite melancholy...." Of course, nymphets aren't lolis, but in the same way you lack the comprehension to pick a loli out from a petite girl.

>> No.10121581

>>10119769
I never thought an online discussion about Nabokov and culture/sexuality could be this dumb, and believe me, I have low expectations.

>> No.10121686

>Rushia
>loli
She's close, but can only pass for lolibaba at best.

>> No.10121736

>>10118747
He probably is but the great thing about the Internet is that you don't even have to be angry to sling disproportionate amounts of verbal abuse at your perceived enemies.

>> No.10121865

>>10119769
>lolicons aren't actual pedophiles
No, they just happen to like pictures showing underage looking girls.
Nothing pedophilic about that.

>> No.10121893

>>10121736
The only thing I'm angry about is that I haven't got a response back from >>10118708 yet, piece of shit, I want to see what dumbass response this retard will fucking pull out next

>> No.10122089

>>10121865
The times I've seen actual cheese pizza posted here I felt such disgust (and before you say it: no, not shame disgust. The kind of disgust you get looking at gore or something rotten) it ruined my entire day, so yeah I think I'm safe.

>> No.10122107

>>10101347
the fact that they look like little girls...

>> No.10122112

Imagine being >>10121865 levels of retarded that you cannot in any way separate reality from fiction.

>> No.10122156

>>10101347
You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like

>> No.10122283

>>10122089
Chris Hansen here. that was very carefully worded. Did your lawyer help you craft that?

>> No.10122999

>>10110541
Shota/loli shit is always such a moral gray ground, with a decent amount of arguments supporting each side. It's always a bit mind boggling

>> No.10123459

>>10122089
I've been using this website for 15 years and have managed to avoid seeing any of that somehow

>> No.10123562

>>10123459
The times I've seen it have been people spamming it on the front page and someone posting it in some petty argument. In both cases part of the disgust was that someone would not only save that shit but post it for such small reasons. I can understand a lot of shit people do on here, even shit like the (2D) toddlercon spam earlier today, but not going that far.

>> No.10123722

>>10102856
Mayonegg

>> No.10123755

>>10123562
You've got a higher power level than I do; I was hittin the report button on those toddlercon pics earlier and felt a feeling of disgust pretty similar to what you just described

>> No.10124035

>>10104618
>>10105848
Gura looks like a child. Can act like a child.
But often drops cynical observations or adult references. This puts her into that magical category where the body is young but the mind is sexually mature. Aka anime loli, such as Shinobu. That is what makes them attractive. An actual grade-schooler personality would be annoying fast.

>> No.10124158

>>10123755
It's gross enough that I'll hide the thread because I don't want to see it, but at least it's not real.

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>>10122283
Swing and miss, fake Chris Hansen chama.

>> No.10124223

>>10122089
There was a Rosemi thread that turned into Tsunderia drama and someone posted it(i.e. irl pic), and I got the same feeling looking at gore. And after hearing that people were spamming it in a pinned Hololive thread (that got an entire area rangebanned from imageposting) I felt too scared to open non-general Hololive threads for a week

>> No.10124485

>>10124223
>There was a Rosemi thread that turned into Tsunderia drama and someone posted it
Yeah, that was actually the example I was thinking of.
It's funny, earlier that week I was actually starting to feel worry over me liking loli stuff. Better to know I still have the right response to the real stuff at least, even if it put me off the anime stuff for a while for obvious reasons.

>> No.10124538

Because my childhood best friend is the smallest women I've ever met without being considered a dwarf, she's like 4'5, weighs under a 100 pounds and all of her clothing is bought on the kids aisle cause nothing else fits her.
She also wears panties like OP pic because and I quote from her "They don't make sexy panties in children's sizes."

So I blame her.

>> No.10124611

>>10124538
>she's like 4'5,
Anon... That's well into dwarf territory...

>> No.10124803

>>10124611
She doesn't have the features though.
Like there's very clear features on men and women that are considered to have dwarfism, she's just super tiny and petite.

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[ERROR]

>>10117471
>>10119769
Sorry, my guy, but I think I'm going to stick with calling girls like Rushia lolis, because it's simply more convenient to do so rather than making all these blurry distinctions. That's how word meanings evolve.

>> No.10128944

>>10128029
>That's how word meanings degenerate
ftfy
But you do you, pal. You'll be in good company with other retards that use "literally" to mean "figuratively, but with emphasis", or "waifu" to mean "attractive female"

>> No.10129112

>>10118238
>her loli design
Review your loli definitions, lolitard

>> No.10129336

>>10106366
Death metal voice

>> No.10129369

>>10128944
FYI, there's plenty of written documents showing that 'literally' has been commonly used to mean 'figuratively, but with emphasis' for a good 500+ years now. Almost as old as the transition from Middle English to Modern English. It's not a modern degeneration.

Just hopping into this argument now, and while that chart is absolutely retarded I will say that in Japan girls who are small, youthful and petite, but still clearly teenageish/pubescent will absolutely be considered loli characters. Heck, go back to the origins of the term and 'loli' is used mostly for those in the 12~15ish age range (physically). If anything the restriction of 'loli' to girls who are clearly pre-teenager/pre-pubescent is the western degeneration of the term.

>> No.10129375

>>10111945
Do any chuubas talk about their cars? I would think it's prime doxx material so they choose not to

>> No.10129445

>>10128944
>tota haec scripta
Quae est ista degener lingua? Loquere latine, subhumane.

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>>10128029
Ok, agree to disagree. If you will call Mio from K-On a loli, then I'm fine with you calling Rushia a loli in the same vein. I agree she fits your charts definition of form neutral age neutral (or technically age rebel whatever).

However, neither Rushia's design nor demeanor fit with what entails to be an actual loli - what you have described as Form Purist. I 100% agree that Rushia would fit in the same category as what Azunyan from K-On would fit for example; however, that shouldn't be qualified as a loli. They don't share the same fundamental characteristics. I've appreciated hundreds of lolis, and have also appreciated hundreds of cute moe blobs; and there is a difference in appeal that those outside will never understand. I'm a gachikoi for Rushia and love her religiously and her design is extremely hot - but her design simply is not a loli's design and neither is her appeal. I appreciate her in the same way I appreciate Azunyan and other moe blobs. I do love loli fanart of Rushia as well - but for example the image I attached is just not a loli. It's a moe pettan JP highschooler. Though if you'll call Azunyan a loli I will have no offense at you calling Rushia a loli. I mean I find both hot afterall. I just maintain that fundamentally loli has a specific meaning and Rushia does not qualify.

>> No.10129806

>>10129369
It's not an issue of the meaning of a word changing, it's an issue of a word losing meaning by applying to several things in the same context.
If "literally" can mean "figuratively" it has become it's own antonym, making it meaningless.
If "loli" loses it's distinction from "petite" or "teen" then there will no longer be any word to specifically mean loli, enfeebling the language.

>> No.10129860

>>10128029
That chart is so fucking bad
>Chino is 15, meaning that by age-purists she wouln't be considered a loli but a JC instead, an argument that happens all the time on /a/ for example
>Poplar isn't a loli in any (literal) shape or form, she's just short
>Tomoko is not loli in body or age, she's 16
>Mio is literally a fucking high schooler nobody would ever say she's a loli, at least pick Azu-nyan for that square
>Sakura is litearlly just an adult???????
>Won't comment much o nthe bottom row because they're meant to be nonsensical

>> No.10129883

>>10128944
This is the board who misuses the word "oshi" all the time after all. It's just like waifu, both words used to have a degree of implicit commitment to them but now they just mean "vtuber i like"/"anime girl i like"

>> No.10129949

>>10124803
I hate to bring it up to you, but dwafism comes in many ways, and does not always feature deformations or strange proportions. If she's 4'5 like you said, she probably does indeed suffer from some form of dwarfism.

>> No.10130079

>>10129860
You are why people make fun of lolicons

>> No.10130097

>>10101347
https://streamable.com/jl0i2q

>> No.10130312

>>10129369
>in Japan girls who are small, youthful and petite, but still clearly teenageish/pubescent will absolutely be considered loli characters.
Japanese people can be wrong, too, but you'll never see that in LO or any other specialist magazine.
>western degeneration of the term.
Again, I don't think the western sphere had much influence over LO or it's likes. The term organically changed from the original meaning to fill a niche that didn't exist before.
That's evolution. Degeneration is when distinction is lost, not gained.

>> No.10130380

>>10130312
Furthermore can it really be degeneration of the term if the source inspiration of Lolita literally described the age limits as "9-14". Not that the book should limit what lolis are as they're a Japanese phenomenon, but the actual use of the term by proper lolicons in Japan keeps generally (though not necessarily all the time) with the original spirit as opposed to the those trying to degenerate the term to just everything petite.

>> No.10131606

>>10129883
imagine using the ironic anituber/redditweeb version of waifu instead of the 4chan OG one...

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