/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>wanted to be idol
>wanted to be streamer
>loves streaming
>loves the other holos

Why did mangment destroy her dreams, /vt/?


btw. Will you support Fauna in her future streaming life?

[Anonymous No.]

I'll finally watch her, maybe

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
I don't support traitors

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
I don't support boring streamers

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
>giving up before reaching 1million
Forever irrelevant

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
Depends. If she's going to be "independent" by constantly collabing with vapid twitch thots then I'll pass

[Anonymous No.]

I expect her to at some point soon in a stream apologise for her wording and distress she might have caused other talents. She needs to rein in her crazy fanbase, who have been proving all the longstanding memes about saplings being needy and unstable true.
But I know her to be a kind and compassionate person, so I expect her to do that. So I will probably support her, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
I don't pay streamers but I'll keep watching her because her content is good and I don't have retarded corpo loyalty

[Anonymous No.]

She wasn't my oshi but I watched her until my oshi started streaming. I'll hop on whenever she's on and my oshi isn't. I support her decision, her mental state is much more important than trying to fight higher ups with little to no success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
I have been a sapling for 3 years. If she collabs with either Filian, Shondo, Bao, Pippa or any other petty twitchtards, I'm dropping her instantly.

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>>90804168
>he thinks they give a fuck about a cheap youtube trophy
what a mark

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>>90804001
>btw. Will you support Fauna in her future streaming life?
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804217
>her crazy fanbase, who have been proving all the longstanding memes about saplings being needy and unstable true
It's funny because I know exactly one other fanbase that is just as needy and unstable but without the shiny hololive coat of paint over it.

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>>90804307
ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
Yes. I was waiting for her to leave Hololive for a long time

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
who?

[Anonymous No.]

Not even a question. She made bank in holo, and I can't wait to see her redesigning her model to look more modern. I don't care that she won't be green any longer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90807756
She's finally going back to having a pettan model just like her actual proportions

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804307
>If
*When

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
i don't watch vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804307
>I have been a sapling for 3 years.
Sure you have, sis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
>Management is... it's bad, okay!!!
>meanwhile every other JP and EN holo has said "No, managements just fine and treats us really well!"
I'm not supporting that menhera for trying to throw Cover under the bus for her own benefit

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>>90808373
>meanwhile every other JP and EN holo has said "No, managements just fine and treats us really well!"
I’d believe it if those same members didn’t actively shit on management recently

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>>90808373
I see Cover's damage control is already doing wonders.

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>>90808373
I’m sure you believed Niji members when they did the exact same thing right?

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>>90804001
I'll probably continue to watch her, but I'll always question her motives. It's easy to say you love something, but when your actions say otherwise, it's hard to believe what you say.

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>>90804001
A shame shes going she was unicorn-friendly
if her reincarnation wont be ill drop

[Anonymous No.]

>>90808373
>Fauna has "emergency" preventing stream while the entire EN branch says in unison "everything's going to be ok, management isn't to blame" like that one clip of all the news stations telling people to buy more Christmas presents
dyrb?

[Anonymous No.]

>>90808373
I LOVE HOLOLIVE FAMILY

[Anonymous No.]

>>90808561
Maybe if you actually paid attention to what they said, you'd hear even Kronii say that her problems with management are very minor, and if she had actual serious issues she'd take care of them behind the scenes. It's healthy to have criticism of management, You'd know this if you've ever actually had a real job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90809149
>Kronii complains non-stop about management. Even rages in stream about it
>"Actually I was just having a moment. They were all nothing burgers"

Good way to make me not trust her

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>>90808373
Guess you're just gonna completely ignore what chloe said huh holodrone?

[Anonymous No.]

I unironically stopped enjoying fauna 2 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
>wanted to be idol
Only sent her lines and let management skinwalk her all the time because she fucking hated traveling or recording
>wanted to be streamer
2024 her worst year by far
>loves streaming
But "ah my vegan period is so strong"
>loves the other holos
The only one right now in EN confirmed 100% to be in bad terms with other

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
I havent watched her in a couple years almost. Ill may check her out but i dont really have time to follow multiple vtubers these days, best of luck to her future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
It's more important for Cover to protect the faceless shadowy manager people that the talents. They can always hire a new streamer, but they cannot just replace and hire a precious and valuable member of management. Reminder that the company didn't get in trouble even when a manager was harassing Mel in real life and they ended up firing her anyway. But we're supposed to treat them as the hecking wholesome goodest of boys vtuber company because that's the image they burned in people's minds. The fans turning on the girls that are leaving because they dared to bring up a negative point about the company should tell you all you need to know. The fact that other girls just kinda went "oh well, stuff happens" with no feeling should also tell you exactly just how "friendly" they really are with each other behind the scenes. Everyone is ultimately out for themselves. Cover cares about Cover stock more than anything, the girls care about their money.

Being friendly and amicable completely stops on all sides when a problem a problem is brought up, especially if its brought up publicly. Expect Fauna to be permanently blacklisted and effectively memoryholed and unpersoned because she said something bad about yagoo's glorious precious golden management people.

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>>90809284
>trusting what the stinky menhera says over the words of Sora, Miko, Pekora, Marine, Korone, Subaru, Fubuki, Watame, Lamy and every other respected member
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
Never watched her, not going to watch her reincarnation

[Anonymous No.]

>>90809717
Marine and Korone have shit on management consistently though

[Anonymous No.]

>>90809717
NTA Sora doesn't say anything don't drag her into this civil war shitpost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90808373
>meanwhile every other JP and EN holo has said "No, managements just fine and treats us really well!"
Man fuck of Cover pay shill.
Almost every holo I watched complain about managment.

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>>90804001
I will. Hopefully she finishes pikmin 2

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>>90808373
I'm autistic and succumb to falseflags and trolling often. Are you being sincere?

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>>90804182
well, you must not know how her streams are like before joining holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804074
Do it while you can

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>>90804001
>Will you support Fauna in her future streaming life?
Without a doubt. Unless she changes her content completely, and I mean completely. But seeing LL, she is the same now as she always was(outside the ASMR, thanks, YT).

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>>90808867
Just rope already then

[Anonymous No.]

>>90809717
>Marine
If youre not gonna watch streams at least lok up clips before embarassing yourself sis

[Anonymous No.]

>>90809149
"MANAGEMENT HATE" has been the mantra of all EN fans since the very beginning. what is the point of gaslighting yourself now? are you scared?

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
I'll love her forever

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
she does rarely of those

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>>90804001
I'm half convinced the blowback from retards and incessant online speculation is going to traumatise her and make her quit streaming forever. She doesnt need the money and has another career path to pursue outside vtubing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804307
I always wonder how the fuck some of you people keep track of all these randoms. Just paying attention to one or two hologirls is enough of a chore, still don't know most of the JP side and don't care. That vtuber survey was hilarious, I haven't even heard of half the names.

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>>90804001
Only if she does asmr again otherwise nope

[Anonymous No.]

>>90821629
Because they're a shitposter whose oshi is twitter not actually a 'sapling' obviously. Just lie and set up your own grudgeposts, so easy a tranny can do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
I don't support vegans

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804307
she will collab with shondo probably immediately.
"shondo" the name literally comes from fauna/lemonleaf.
>shondo & leelo

[Anonymous No.]

>>90808373
This
it's literally fauna's word vs mori, bae, shiori, kiara and multiple jp holos

[Anonymous No.]

>>90822105
Whatever you say, bootlicker

[Anonymous No.]

>>90822035
>shondo" the name literally comes from fauna/lemonleaf.
i don't get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>90822105
>I have a disagreement with management
>YOURE NOT ALLOWED, NOBODY ELSE DID

[Anonymous No.]

>>90821629
>tourist and proud
kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>90822105
ah yes, another retarded faggot who just completely ignored what chloe said. Why don't you jump off a bridge?

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
>wanted to be idol
>never improved
>wanted to be a streamer
>makes shit up to postpone streams every week
>loves streaming
>same as above
>loves the other holos
>leaves her friends alone in the hands the evil suits
nah she's a bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>90822166
shondo is a nickname for shadow
leelo is a nickname for lemonleaf
its the name fauna gave her

[Anonymous No.]

>>90809405
she still streamed 5 days a week for most of the year, tourist.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm still convinced she had a Karen moment.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm starting to get pretty curious why she is leaving, since every talent appears to be coming out in defense of cover. Is Cover taking a hardline on concert appearances and fauna really doesn't want to travel? Did her manager shit the bed so totally that it soured her on the entire agency?
Are the Kronii rats true and she can't stand forced collabs with her or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>90822561
>Gura Jr. in terms of excuses for streams
>wonder why she left
She's not a face of Hololive so she doesn't get a pass

[Anonymous No.]

>>90822478
she just didn't want to be pressured to spend 6 weeks away from home and e d since she's expecting

[Anonymous No.]

>>90822561
cover said starting next contract we are taking a larger percentage of your money.
fauna said no i will go indie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90822561
Pretty much. She hated travelling to Japan for holo fes

[Anonymous No.]

>>90822561
>and fauna really doesn't want to travel?
She avoided Japan for two years

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
I'm unironically excited to no longer have to consider myself a Holofag. Just spend a little time on this board to figure out why. She was the only Holo I still watched (who actually streams). Not having to ever again deal with this weird little SEAfag walled garden will be nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90822722
>>90822786
It's really the only thing I can think of that makes real sense, hololive has been said to move in a more idol direction and if she keeps refusing to go that might have been a line in the sand between her and cover.
If so they really should have worked out some ENgamers thing and just lowered support for them or something.
>>90822887
I'll never concede this board to them, that is what they really want and I ruse to let them win over me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90808373
Cover threw Fauna under the bus and the other Hololive talents are going to be careful with their words because they don't want to be fired. No one wants a sudden graduation and the ones living in Japan could be sued for defamation if they are too honest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90822887
>who actually streams
Ahahahaha

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804488
>visit shondo threads from time to time while shes streaming
>half the replies are always gay drama about some literal who in chat or discord
shondo is ok if sometimes boring to watch but holy shit her community is actually dogshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>90823935
/shon/ is containment. fans abandoned it last year.

[Anonymous No.]

im still surprised shes graduating
are there saplings that can confirm if she was slowly showing signs of potentially graduating this year

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
False
True
True
False

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
She is pretty insensitive to be invested to, I feel like she will cause some major drama in her friendship circles in the future

[Anonymous No.]

Marine says that there's a workload problem in Hololive. This might shed a lot of light on the dispute with management

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHl3IsnYTJI

[Anonymous No.]

>>90824271
when she posted to lemonleaf a month ago. this was definitely decided around the time of ame's graduation or earlier

[Anonymous No.]

>>90823935
Lemonleaf's community will turn into the same thing. Fauna is exactly like Shondo but in a nicer wrap that's easier to digest and their fanbases reflect that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
I have no idea
Already subbed

[Anonymous No.]

>>90809093
Has hololive ever actually declared itself family?

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804307
Did you throw a fit when she shouted out Pippa on stream? lmao
Also she is friends with Shondo you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>90824271
idk, subtle things that only make sense in hindsight? Unlike other talents she never talked about plans for 2025
And the "saying hi" stream mentioning 940k but not actively pushing for 1m did feel kind of weird

[Anonymous No.]

>>90825061

the thanking all her subscribers does seem like a sign in hindsight yeah
prior i figured it was just another fauna shitpost stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
>loves streaming
>doesn't stream
what did she mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
>>wanted to be idol
>total 3D concerts - 1 (the obligatory 3d debut)
>total original songs - 1
>total cover songs - 1
>didnt go to NY
>didnt want to go to JP again so quitted right before the holofest travels
she just wanted to be called an idol

[Anonymous No.]

>>90825061
She expressed quite a lot of interest in EnReco 2 and more 7 Days to Die. Even as far as a month back she did not seem to have any concern about graduating, and started new medium-length games like LA Noire and Silent Hill 2. However 3 weeks ago she suddenly did her first Minecraft Monday in a long while and rushed to finish the tree. Some Advent members joined her VC unexpectedly which, in hindsight, was odd. A week after that her other account got its first update in years.

So yeah, some time around 3 weeks ago circumstances changed.

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>>90824650
Lemonleaf was a whore on stream. We still have the video evidence to repost. She will never attract the sort of audience shondo has built up.

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>>90804001
>Why did mangment destroy her dreams
she destroyed it herself. Not a single one of her peers seem to understand why she's leaving while they respect her decision to do so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90827278
She already did. The only difference is shondo's fans are pedos in denial, both fanbases act the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90827617
>shondo's fans are pedos in denial

I'm not in denial ;')

[Anonymous No.]

>>90827952
I respect that

[Anonymous No.]

>>90808373
>Selen says management fucked her over
>Every other JP and EN Niji has said "No management is fine and treats us really well"

Time is a flat fucking circle

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>>90804001
I am seriously thinking about this. The fanbase will be a lot smaller but rhe people here are so horny that the only thing they will pay money to get is ASMR eye licking/toe sucking whatever gross shit this fetish is for. Somehow it has been normalised for ASMR to not be a fucking fetish even if it clearly is. If she comes back with stuff like the dungeon ttrpg i am all for it..if its for fetish then she can go offline for all i care. I also used to not care for collab partners until i heard Filian in dooby's stream. She is somehow able to be more retarded and unwatcheable than shilily or bao. She literally screams like a banshee and makes her avatar bounce around on the screen. I don't see much difference between Filian and Shondo so if thats the direction Fauna is going in..i guess i will have to stick with Gigi and Cece. It really hurts me because hololive for me just got a lot more bitter and promise in itself is a black hole for me right now. I got from white knighting Bae here becauae she is such an awesome dancer to just hating her...i have no idea how somebody can be so retarded, she could basically say nothing and do better tahn whatever she vomited on her stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>90808373
>

[Anonymous No.]

>>90822105
I don't trust them

[Anonymous No.]

>>90828663
I don't even like Shondo very much but I'm offended you're comparing her to Filian.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90828912
Both are different sides of the same coin..the coin being 12 year olds on one side and 30-40 on the other side. Both scream memes

[Anonymous No.]

>>90828701
Wife

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>>90804307
I look forward to all the seething when she inevitably collabs with one of the Phase girls

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>>90804001
>Will you support Fauna in her future streaming life?
Of course I will.

[Anonymous No.]

She got the IRyS 1.0 experience.

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
>wanted to be idol
>1 cover song and 1 orisong in 3 years
>no 3D lives ever, only one in her entire branch to not have one
>1 of only 3 people (Mumei and Gura) to not go to NY for BD (1 of those 3 was having surgery, and the other was Gura)
>1 of only 2 people (Shion) to not travel to Japan for 5th Fes

[Anonymous No.]

Was fauna graduating a normal woman moment? I really don't understand them.

I had a female colleague too who resigned suddenly and her reason was because our office elevators broke down too often.... Our office is only 5 storeys high..

[Anonymous No.]

>>90829367
I take the phase girls over the others mentioned any time of the week desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>90840674
She got the word wrong, she wanted to be idle. Easy mistake I suppose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90841030
maybe but this woman's life is a series of woman moments and it somehow got her into being on track to being a millionaire for 6 hours a week of work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90844424
You are actually stupid if you really believe they only do 6 hours of work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
sure, i wont skip ads from her vidya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90841030
Sounds like she quit because she didn't like flying to Japan which, yes, is a massive women moment. Imagine throwing away one of the best careers you could possibly have, one that many people would literally kill for, over something as stupid as that.
And I gotta give Cover some shit too because she was hugely popular and moved massive amounts of merch, and the fact that they couldn't come to a compromise to keep her shows massive retardation on their part too.

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>>90804001
The only meat Fauna ate was rich business men cocks and she wasn't even good at that

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804307
Falseflag better

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
>Why did mangment destroy her dreams, /vt/?
cause they retarded
>Will you support Fauna in her future streaming life?
fauna would be dead after this month
>B-but what about lemonl-
she's dead, jim

[Anonymous No.]

>>90845626
Did Chloe also quit because she didn't like travelling to Japan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>90841030
SHE WANTS TO BE ABLE T O PLAY BANDLE AND FISDHLE ON STREAM LIKE HER KAMI OSHI NOTHERNLION. THATS THE REASOJN. FUCKOFF

[Anonymous No.]

>>90845626
>And I gotta give Cover some shit too because she was hugely popular and moved massive amounts of merch, and the fact that they couldn't come to a compromise to keep her shows massive retardation on their part too.
This is the part I don't get. All the girls have been pretty vocal about how they're not forced to do anything aside from maybe FES, so if we take them at their word then why the fuck was compromise so impossible with her to the point she'd rather graduate than stay an affiliate? Was it really over something as retarded as mandatory trips to Japan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>90841030
>her reason was because our office elevators broke down too often
that sounds... like a normal ass reason? elevators are not actually supposed to get jammed every other day. i would also want to move to a different job in the same industry or career if my workspace was a decrepit high rise shithole of a building with non working elevators. you're allowed to do that if you're not satisfied with your current job you know?

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804307
If she collabs with Dooby then what?
>>90804001
I never thought Fauna was interesting so this doesn’t hit hard. It does make me worried about other talents leaving

[Anonymous No.]

People need to stop twisting her words.
>I'm not leaving because I don't want to be an idol
Doesn't mean
>I want to be an idol

[Anonymous No.]

>>90847367
You don't get it. Every Holo member wants to be an idol, that's why they all joined in the first place. They all dream of being passed around like businessmen's cocksleeves for fame and fortune.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804307
BASED

[Anonymous No.]

>>90822561
My personal theory is that it's ASMR related. Her PL literally has "ASMR" in the name. Her last ASMR stream was 7 months ago and perhaps Cover denied her from releasing any new ASMR content due to YouTube's crackdown on that sort of content, a restriction which may have then extended into other formats such as voice packs, members streams, unarchived streams, or potential Twitch streams. It's literally the most popular content type on her channel, plus she has a several thousand dollar mic, and she can't even use it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90808373
Pero pero

[Anonymous No.]

>>90822166
>shondo & leelo
https://x.com/fallenshadow_YT/status/1499792238225903622

[Anonymous No.]

>>90824271
>not making any fun remarks for future Fauna on anniversary stream
>sudden spike in collabs
>shitposting on rm
The signs were all there...

[Anonymous No.]

>>90840674
>1 of only 2 people (Shion) to not travel to Japan for 5th Fes
Shion doesn't live in Japan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>90849334
Sorry, let me reword that better
>only person to not travel to Japan for 5th fes and one of only 2 people to not attend

[Anonymous No.]

>>90827067
contract renewal negotiations didn't go well

[Anonymous No.]

GIVE ME ALL THE FAUNA RRATS PLEASE AND THANK YOU

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
Given what she said, the two REALISTIC scenarios are: A. She enjoyed the idol aspect but streaming was her dream job and the ratio of idol:streamer was being pushed to favor idol OR B. For whatever reason she already didn't like traveling (AFAIK she didn't go to 5th Fes or Breaking Dimensions {and her song for BD was obviously recorded on a non-professional setup}) and was going to be required to travel/travel more going forward.

Any other idea is just pure speculation with no basis for reality behind it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90848329
If she graduated so that she can start putting out more kino ASMR then lets fucking gooo

[Anonymous No.]

Fact: you all just memed about it but never raped enough saplings

[Anonymous No.]

>Why did mangment destroy her dreams, /vt/?
She threw a hissyfit to management because Justice started encroaching on her timeslot. She started streaming later to compensate but then bumped into the rest of EN. That's why no one else cares and thinks shes dumb for leaving. The company is focusing more on merch and SC/CCV is largely irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.]

Will she do ecchi asmr now?

[Anonymous No.]

he failed her

[Anonymous No.]

>>90850251
he magged just a little bit too hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
>Youtube says no to ASMR
>Cover follows and says no to ASMR
>Quits to do ASMR on PL instead.
Simple as.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90822438
No she didn't

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>>90849753
I will say though, it's weird that everyone in Promise (besides Mumei who hasn't streamed) has reacted more to the fallout surrounding Fauna saying it was a disagreement with management as opposed to their genmate graduating. Every single one has essentially said "Let's see her off with a smile!" and then focused on making it clear that they have no problems with management and aren't leaving any time soon.

I'm not trying to say they were given a script to read from, but I wouldn't be surprised if a message was sent out saying something like "Hey, when you respond to questions surrounding Fauna's graduation, could YOU mention how you feel about management?" The only talent I've seen that seemed to have a genuine response and wasn't tip-toeing around or fumbling over their words was Watame. She straight up said if Fauna wanted to graduate then it's her decision and we should support her and wish her the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90822438
Fauna streamed an average of
9.66 hours a week this year

[Anonymous No.]

>>90850669
You are overthinking this. What would you say if somebody accidentally a mob at your doorstep but you actually like it inside the door?

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804307
BASED
I'm gonna drop her if she doesn't stream on Youtube

[Anonymous No.]

>>90850669
Part of it is that this is now the fourth graduation in the past half year, so fans are stating to fear everyone leaving, especially their oshi
But yeah, it does kind of suck that Bae and IRyS barely cared about Fauna and Kronii basically didn't even mention her

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>>90850835
I didn't say them making it clear they have no problems with management was a bad thing, but I would have expected more of an authentic reaction to their work friend announcing their graduation. However, they have had more time to prepare for it and probably already spoken to Fauna and told her how they feel about her leaving, which is really what matters. I do recall now that Bae mentioned she still cried when listening to Fauna's graduation message, so you are probably right that I'm overthinking it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90824415
>when she posted to lemonleaf a month ago. this was definitely decided around the time of ame's graduation or earlier
How many other holos decided to jump the boat together with Ame, but are being delayed by management?

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804307
Streams with twitch whores? Dropped.
Doesn't stream on Youtube? Dropped.
Starts doing male collabs again? You'd better believe THAT'S dropped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90851126
Youtube is a garbage streaming platform

[Anonymous No.]

>>90851272
Youtube streaming does kinda suck, but at least it doesn't force you to watch 5 minutes of pre-roll ads per stream you try to view and spam you with like 10 minutes of ads for every 60 minutes of content, regardless of it the streamer initiated it or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90849745
I've learned that the girls really enjoy eating meat and udon, and love management because they give them so much free time.

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>>90845392
it's a lot like teaching really
plenty of them coast and basically actually do 6-10 hours of work a week while plenty of others put in a ton of work.
the funniest part is the outcome and quality of their work barely relates to the time input anyways too.
Marine barely streams but she clearly puts a lot of time into prep, but I really do feel like Fauna is someone with high potential who really phones it in the same way Okayu has been the last year or 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90851994
What's funny about your statement about Okayu is that Okayu has streamed more than twice as much as Fauna has

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
>why didn't this japanese billion dollar company that keep thousands of families alive twist and conform to the whims of a single american girl
yeah i dunno

[Anonymous No.]

>>90852273
>why didnt this company that is now worth billions of dollars try to negotiate with one of their revenue streams, and instead let it walk away

[Anonymous No.]

>>90852487
source that they didn't try to negotiate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>90852487
The answer's in the question. Not enough of a revenue stream apparently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90850669
Her genmates' reactions bother me way more than the graduation itself. If the last of Fauna's interactions with Promise are this sappy and dismissive then holy shit the secondhand heartbreak would be devastating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>90804001
>Why did mangment [sic] destroy her dreams, /vt/?
I want to say that it was contract negotiation that fell through regarding ASMR. She was the MAIN EN ASMR vtuber and has 50+ ASMR videos?
And then she sort of just stopped.
But I'm pretty sure Noel has uploaded recent ASMR videos, so I don't know what the problem is.
>btw. Will you support Fauna in her future streaming life?
I watch her because I like her content. If the content remains similar, of course I'll keep watching. If it changes, I have no 'brand' loyalty to the producer of my entertainment and will find someone else to watch.

It's kind of a shame, because Gura was my previous go-to chuuba before she went and fucked-off to wherever to do whatever. I clearly have a problem picking people that will stay around.

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>>90847127
My rrat is that she is not forced to go to japan, but is highly encouraged to go so promise can do group performance. If she don't go, then no performance. It would be weird to do with one missing.
Even if she is not forced, but declining could drag other down. This would weight on her conscience, especially if someone is waiting for her.
So she choose to give up, which make others disappointed (especially kronii).
For affiliate thing, we don't know any detail about it, we don't even know if she got the offer. But it seem to mainly open the possibility to return for the event in which she want to make to the clear cut that she won't participate.
Traveling to japan seem be huge burden to her because it's difficult to find vegan food there, she(or bae) had to make food during her first trip (the only trip of her entire career).

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I'm just tired of this. As much as I want to know exactly why it's probably not one single straw that broke the camel's back. I hope that she at least hits 1 million subs and gets her song with Mumei out officially.

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>>90854022
If the channel somehow gets to 1 million after she graduates, is she going to receive the gold button?

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>>90850669
I don't think they were given any script when all doom posters keep repeating same/similar questions/concern in their timeline.
iirc biboo response also doesn't mention anything related to management, just she is sad but respect her decision.
Also i don't think jp talents know any details regarding this.

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>>90853387
>Her genmates' reactions bother me way more than the graduation itself.
Cause she (inadvertently?) sic'd a angry mob that's using any every and thing they can as evidence of Cover/Hololive being black company, which directly effect their livelihoods
It's not really an appropriate time for them to be sappy and shit like Myth was for Ame or Gen 2 was Aqua, because they've (and everyone else in EN tb.h) ostensibly forced into having to ease tensions because her statement basically set off a bomb across every major discussion hub for vtubers

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>>90804001
>wanted to be idol
hates going to japan, made 1 song in 4 years
>wanted to be streamer
4 hours a week
>loves streaming
see above
>loves the other holos
barely collabed

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>>90854191
I'd like to think Cover is more incompetent than petty and will at least offer her to ship it post mortem.

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Honestly i would have more respect for her if she just said she dislike the idol side of the work.

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>>90804001
Just saying it makes it true right?

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>>90850669
Ironic how the rest of Promise is being accused of reading a script when Fauna was the only one to actually do it. Couldn't express how much she wants to be an idol with a straight face I guess.

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>>90850669
Imaging being in Bae and Kronii's shoes.
Your company just announced big changes are coming, which is more restrictive rules and more work for everyone. You don't mind where the direction of your company is going, and ultimately don't mind going to work.

One day your coworker suddenly decides to leave because she doesn't like the company's new rules and direction on where the company is going. You're also fed up on how useless some of the staff are, fed up of of the uneccesary meetings and shilling that you don't want and just want to stream without dealing with bullshit permissions.

If you were Bae and Kronii's shoes. What would you do and say to the fans?

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>>90855254
>Your company just announced big changes are coming, which is more restrictive rules and more work for everyone
Why would I imagine random bullshit from your dreams?

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>>90855254
>If you were Bae and Kronii's shoes. What would you do
I'd sniff myself

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>>90855254
>random changes
There were no sudden random changes. The changes simply were that as soon as the girls get their 3Ds, they have to start doing mandatory idol performances. That's the change

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>>90822343
at least Ame learned to enjoy her SOVL karaokes (even improved a lot), and keeps up with dancing even now.

Fauna stayed shit. and was only better than Sana.

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Wait for the 2025 hololive x tenga onahole collab announcement. You all will then understand why so many girls left. They have morals and integrity.

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>>90850669
>Deliberately causes the fandom to doompost on everyones streams because she had to vent publicly
>"why isn't anyone sad she's leaving!!!?"
No idea.

there are ways you behave in the adult world and then there's fauna who had a dummy spit instead.

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>>90854237
>ostensibly forced into having to ease tensions because her statement basically set off a bomb
They were not obligated to make any statements to ease tensions at all. There was no proverbial bomb.

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>>90804159
>If i don't watch someone then they are boring
this but unironically.

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>>90809149
Honestly, that just makes me trust Kronii less
>bitches constantly about nothingburgers
>when the chips are actually down, quiet as the grave
That's the exact opposite of how it should be. That's like crying wolf every single day and then not even saying anything when the wolf actually shows up. Doesn't make any sense.

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>>90847127
not even Fes is forced according to Shiori.

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>>90850669
Based sheep. That's the appropriate PR response too. All this falling over themselves to defend management just makes it feel unnatural.

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>>90856180
So it's either
>Kronii is a moral coward
or
>Kronii does hate management, but she hates Fauna WAAAAY more and would side with anyone who fucks with Fauna

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no. saplings are one of the craziest fanbases for a vtuber i've ever seen. don't want to get associated with that, lmao.

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>>90855254
Change is Good
-Kha'Zix.

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>>90855875
Man I'd buy the fuck out of those.

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>>90856158
>>They were not obligated to make any statements to ease tensions at all. There was no proverbial bomb.
>There no was mass mob of people across twitter, reddit, discord, /vt/, and maybe even fucking facebook who were ready to Kyoani Cover HQ under the guise that there a systemic issue within their ranks
Ogey brother sure lol
I'm sure basically every EN and a handful JPs all coming out to mention that they don't have any personal issues with management that would lead to them quitting, and all this happen within 48~ hours of Fauna's announcement was merely a coincidence

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>>90856180
>trusting Kronii
lmao

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>>90856470
Did everyone already forget when Kronii complained about management ghosting her for 20days?

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>>90804168
Won't benefit her in any way. I wouldn't give a fuck too if I'm about to quit.

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>>90804307
Okay sis

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>>90804217
Kys phasenigger

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>>90808373
>Corpo shill vtubers act as the pr for their beloved company
Nijification in process

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>>90856877
So it's the latter, then, got it. As long as management fucks over the other girls, Kronii doesn't give a fuck.

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>>90808373
Jeet intern you're doing a great job!

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>>90827278
Will she be lewd? I'd watch lewd Fauna.

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>>90854237
That's entirely on Cover. They gave the OK for Fauna to say what she did. They just didn't realize the fallout it would have. Just more evidence of their incompetence.

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>>90856470
No, I think she's just kind of stupid. (That or it's some korean thing.)

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>>90856763
If they all have problems with management, then they should've left long ago right? They have to make a statement because fans are being unreasonable. Yes its normal people are mad that people are leaving, but as Kiara and other members have said its not as simple as "management bad"

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>>90808373
Using talents as meatshields for management is okay when Hololive does it.This really is a repeat of the beginning of the year.

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>>90856610
Honestly, that was one of the most empty statements of all time.
>change means growth! =^]

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>>90857327
why? when uise already exists right now?
I watch Fauna for non-lewd. No one beats uisex

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>>90856180
>>90857284
>"TRUST THE TALENT, NOT THE COMPANY!!!"
>Talent who has publicly shit on Management on multiple recorded instances and has 2 other personal managers fired prior to current one, says she ultimate thinks management is fine
>"B-bootlicker!!" "S-selfish!!" "Y-you cried wolf!!"
It's unironically hilarious how quick that "trust the talent" bullshit goes the drawn the second said talent says something that doesn't aligned with your narrative kek

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>>90857638
I WOULD trust Kronii if she said that ultimately management is fine... before Cover became a publicly traded company, that is.

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>>90857553
No, youre right Bae should've said. COVER is making us slaves threatening us with our jobs if we don't do damage control.

And let's say that is true. Cover is the most evil.company ever. You know they could just leave and go indie and take their fans with them right?
And now why haven't they all have done that yet?

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>>90857553
>Suisei at fucking budokan
>Hololive starts expanding idol concerts into the west with BD and CTW and the turnout is massive
In this case, yes it does

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I believe a person by what they do rather than what they say.
>wanted to be idol
False. The number of her Original/Cover releases is below the average of ENs (excluding mori).
>wanted to be streamer
True. She had quite high views and frequency.
>loves streaming
True.
>loves the other holos
IDK

Conclusion, she is a good streamer as long as we don't discuss idols.

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>>90857940
Based realist

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>>90857388
>That's entirely on Cover. They gave the OK for Fauna to say what she did
That's bullshit and you know it lmao
If they had told her what to say there'd be arguably cause worse drama because they would be outright censoring her
This ultimately falls upon Fauna's feet, specifically her lack of situational awareness to not specify that these issues are localized to herself and the managers that she deal with, rather than a putting a target on back of amorphous and nebulous blob known as "management"
By doing that she caused a shitstorm, a shitstorm that she could've stopped dead in it's tracks herself mind you, 24-hours later but instead choice to put her head in the sand and play Skyrim like there was nothing unusual was going on (and then follow that up by not streaming for the next two days lol)
You asked why the mood surrounding her departure hasn't been sappy? Because everyone else had to clean up her mess for her

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>>90857687
>I WOULD trust Kronii if she said that ultimately management is fine... before Cover became a publicly traded company, that is.
Ok lets sober up here
>Kronii debuted in August of 2021
>Cover went public in 2022
>Meaning Cover has been public for the majority of her career
>Kronii has generally become more comfortable with chewing out management the more veteranship she's accumulated
>Meaning Kronii has actually shit on management MORE since they've been public
You entire logic here is just a massive contradiction lol

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>>90809717
Miko and Fubuki are married to execs in the company and get assistants instead of managers.

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>>90804001
>management
She did that to herself when she chose to graduate.

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>>90808373
>meanwhile every other JP and EN holo has said "No, managements just fine and treats us really well!"
What's Ina have to say?
Oh, wait...

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>>90845626
If I was female I wouldn't want to be around a bunch of disgusting japanese executives either. It's in their dna to try to rape blonde women.
I'm sure we can all sympathize, but they can't control themselves, 100% of men over the age of 30 there have consumed an aquatic animal that a hooker had inside a cavity.

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>>90858377
>What's Ina have to say?
Ina did an entire fucking stream where she addressed this exact thing (you know that if you actually cared about Holos outside of using them as props to push an agenda)

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>>90858215
>Cover went public in 2022
Honestly, it didn't truly feel that way until this year...

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>>90854237
Where is this angry mob? On twitter? A place that isn't real?

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>>90858655
Yes, and she said the company fucked everything up and wasted a lot of her own money. Were you trying to say otherwise?

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>>90858894
>and wasted a lot of her own money.
That's actually not what she said tho

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>>90851272
And twitch is even worse

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>>90804001
I don't support a lazy bump wants to be treated as a special one, while the others work just fine as they are supposed to

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>>90827278
>We still have the video evidence to repost.
Then do so, coward
Show me the naughty mommy

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>>90858939
That's exactly what she said. She said she didn't get reimbursed for her flight and hotels in Japan either

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>>90858312
Fubuki owns so much stock in cover that Yagoo answers to her

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>>90860829
given how low the bar is for vtuber idols to be called 'whores', she probably laughed at some guy's joke. Or said that Edward Cullen was really hot. Or she said she was heterosexual and liked boys.

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>wanted to be an idol
LMAOOOOOOOO
>will you watch her....
>Twitch
>Shondo
HELL NO, but I wish her the best with the saps that will follow her there

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>>90857638
>Corpo went public
>Going down to shit with graduation after graduation
>Public opinion on nijification
>I-It's fine chat...ha..ha...
This reminds me that burning room meme krk

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>>90857638
>Corpo went public
>Going down to shit with graduation after graduation
>Public opinion on nijification
>I-It's fine chat...ha..ha...
This reminds me that burning room meme kek