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>Nijisanji. After the recent drama, I can't really enjoy watching any of them. But I only ever really followed Pomu anyway.

>Kronii. The "I can collab with who I want" arc. She kept the drama going for weeks and weeks for zero reason. All over two dumb faggots who quit year one.

>Gura. The Myth off-collab where Gura put a stop to the others singing and acted miserable throughout. Given her complete disinterest in catering to her fans since, I got out at the right time.

>Ina. Pretending she had to go on a 3 month break because of a life threatening illness when she was actually holidaying in Japan. "I would have told you earlier but I lost my only phone!"

>Ame. It's not just the "Improve yourself" thing, but also the arrogance of stopping Kiara from doing a KFP news show when Watson Weekly only ran for 4 episodes.

>IRyS. I don't like her recent content. No new music. No Chadcast. Far more JP streams than EN. Seems to prefer to hang with Flare than any of the EN girls.

>> No.74257057
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>Gura
Early 2022 I was getting more into the NijiEN girls and Gura was only streaming once every week or 2. I think the last stream I watched of her's was when she participated in the company Mario Kart tournament.

>Rosemi
Cute but boring

>Finana
Gatchaspam and constant drama, retarded zoomers Asian woman moments

>Enna
Fun in a "wow, this girl's a piece of shit" sort of way until the Kyo stuff. Cut my losses

>Fulgur
He pissed off the Kindreds with his debut which was pretty funny and, I liked the intentional debuff of long ass vn streams. But I'm just not into male Vtubers.

>Elira
Unlike a lot of people I don't hold anything against her. But I'm just not watching NijiEN any more after Pomu graduated.

>Pomu
Graduated

>> No.74257178

>>74256397
>>74256397
>reddit spacing
>thinking anybody gives too shit about his ass
>bullet list is full of the pettiest shit you can think of
a fat ugly woman wrote this shit

>> No.74257248

>why i stopped watching niji
>drama :(
>why i stopped watching hololive
>extensive shitlist full of bullshit
PLEASE learn subtlety sisters

>> No.74257284

>>74257057
Oh a non-sister disillusioned niji fan. Sorry that your corpo let you down anon.

>> No.74257347

>>74256397
you nyfco sisters dont watch shit, fuck off

>> No.74257367

>>74256397
I don't have any free time to watch vtubers because I'm shitposting on /vt/ all day

>> No.74257516

>>74256397
>Ame
She doesn't stream
>Fauna
Her game choices are ass
>Meloco
I can't speak Japanese
>Axel
I can't speak Japanese
>Irys
I can't speak Japanese
>Pippa
The gimmick got old and I just started finding her to be annoying

>> No.74257813

>>74257516
>I can't speak Japanese
skill issue

>> No.74257844

>>74257057
>>Elira
>Unlike a lot of people I don't hold anything against her.
I suspect the number of people like that is bigger than some assume. She can probably restart as an indie, even with some bad rep, with little problem. Won't be hitting 5k CCV anytime soon, but she'll be getting more than enough to be comfortable.

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>>74256397
Pomu- graduated
Vesper- Got suspended, went menhera,
Nina-graduated
Sana- graduated, never watched her that much anyway

Didn't stop but heavily curtailed:
Mori- got bored of her for whatever reason
Kiara-work a different shift now and don't have time for enormous slogs of JRPG streams

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74257975

>>74256397

>> No.74258107

>>74256397
>Haachama
lost interest at some point
>Mel
terminated
>Sara Nagare
lost interest at some point
>Non Anon
lost interest at some point
>Rosemi
I would feel bad for watching Niji EN at this point in time and she was the only one besides my oshi that I watched anyways
>Mint (2021)
graduated
>Pomu
graduated

>> No.74258902

>>74257284
It is what it is. We had our fun in the Lazusydia era, but as the years went on I retreated to my bunker and just focused on Pomu and tried to ignore what was going on in the rest of the branch. Funnily enough I
had done a bit of soul searching at the end of last year and figured it was reasonably plausible she would graduate this year. I just didn't think the announcement would be 5 days into January lmao

>> No.74259587

>>74256397
>Yuko Yurei
Coombrain pandering. I later learned she went on hiatus and returned just to announce she wouldn't be doing that bottom tier shit anymore, resulting in an absolute sperg out from her simps lol
>Ina
Her streams felt more like background noise than anything
>FuwaMoco
Found out they're just in it for the grift. Their personal irl project will soon take priority and they insist on pretending to be JP while they're still in hololive. Huge letdown considering i was incredibly happy for them as a traveler
>Gura
Bitch doesn't stream and early 2023 i started hoping that she would just stay gone
>Randon
Apparently that Simpsons sign edit applies to the boys too
>kson
kson
>every anime mask off grifter twitch thot
they would rather do more irl cam streams than use the anime models they all bitched about having to pay a shit ton for. They can't and shouldn't be considered vtubers anymore

>> No.74259675

>>74256397
You know it's sad when people get offended when being told to improve themselves.

>> No.74259728

>too long of a list to itemize
I started only really tuning in to girls who make me actually laugh. a lot of them are in phase, but I still like Ame and Kronii a lot. dizzy dokuro has been the biggest unexpected talent catching my interest; very funny and makes great streams.

>> No.74259845

>>74259728
>dizzy dokuro
I have only seen her drunk meltdown on stream and that made me extremely sad. Is she usually so depressing?

>> No.74259976

>>74256397
>IRyS
One gets the feeling that she resents being an EN
Shes behaving in a way which convinces me that she had to settle for being an EN
Reckon if they were to offer her a place in holoJP and wasn't allowed to do en streams she'd take that in a heartbeat

>> No.74259990

>>74256397
I quit Hololive because the fanbase got insufferable. Had /hlg/ open for like two years then one day was reading the 50000th argument about marine and I just said fuck it and closed the tab.

>> No.74260158

>>74257057
You should check out Mint Fantome if you haven't already

>> No.74260179

>>74256397
>chadcast
cuckbeat detected opinion discarded
not watching nijis should be a minimum, but liking mori is still a very low bar to set

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I just watch a small pool of chuubas, but the only ones I really stopped actively watching I think was Fuwamoco. I liked FWMC Morning, but part of me got bored because it got played out, and I was getting tired of Monday being the same stupid natto challenge, and part of it was because I kept getting time conflicts with work meetings regularly and my usual 11 AM go-to stream of Steven Crowder.

Other than that, I still check my usual array of Mumei, Bae, Nerissa, Ao, and the occassional Ina. They're all pretty fun, I like Ina's cooking streams and Nerissa's cake-baking stream.

>> No.74260320

>>74259845
she'll be fiiiiine. she was probably doing it as a bit "half seriously" ... leaning into it for the content

>> No.74260381

>>74256397
>Pomu
Graduated
>Elira
Got bored with her taste in vidya
>Finana
Too much drama
>Selen
Graduated
>Petra
Changed her stream hours

>> No.74260416

>>74257844
While losing a year's worth of subscribers obviously hurts, that still leaves her with over 500k. Sure, dead subs are a thing, but that can still leave a decent amount of "every once in a while" watchers. I'd wager she lost most "mid-tier" super chatters that were into this hobby enough to send money, but is keeping whatever gachikois she had. If anything they might double down. The question is which will outweigh the other in the long run.

>> No.74260523

I mostly just cut myself off from the few Nijisanji livers I watched, mostly cause they either graduated or the whole Selen situation made me feel uncomfortable with continuing to watch the remaining talents that still stuck around with the niji brand.

>> No.74260808

>>74259675
Sadder still when they're seething over a year later

>> No.74260939

>>74259587
Sorry, what IRL project is FWMC working on?

>> No.74261453

>>74259845
one time chat invented a sex spa for love bugs and banned dizzy from it - or she could sit in the cuck chair in the spa if she really wanted. she got upset and ended stream.

>> No.74261590

>>74260939
Go ask /jp/

>> No.74261675

>Hololive
I used to watch them religiously back in the days but now, I think they've already "made it" and my support would be better elsewhere. I still tune in from time to time but I don't supa and buy memberships anymore
>NijiEN
I actually really liked Lazulight, Obsydia, and Ethyria back then but when the discord leak dropped and Millie did the secret gc stream, I grew tired of the constant yabs and unsubscribed to them. Funny how I wasn't even part of the recent unsubscribe statistics lol
>Neurosama
I still like her a lot but I can't stand twitch
>Kson
Nothing wrong with her, it's just that her current content does not appeal to me but I do wish her the best
>VSPO
Nothing wrong with them either but I was waiting for VSPO EN that they held auditions for and before I knew it, I was already watching EN chuubas from other agencies. It just sorta happened
>Astel
I enjoyed watching his shenanigans in Apex back then but since there are very few Apex events nowadays, I started watching him less
>Shibuya Hal
Same reason as Astel
>Furen
I liked her model and some of her covers, but ultimately she doesn't appeal to me as a streamer
I can't think of anyone else at the top of my head but I'm sure I dropped more chuubas than I've mentioned

>> No.74262003

Everyone in Nijisanji, because Nijisanji.

I'd for sure come back to Rosemi, Petra and Scarle if they graduate. Aia, too, if she pulls her head out of her ass. I'd at least give Doppio another shot, he was pretty funny on that dice game stream. Alban and Aster are cute, so maybe them as well. No one from the black screen stream unless they're genuinely apologetic and explain what the fuck they were thinking. The rest? Eh.

>> No.74262038

>>74257057
>Rosemi
>Cute but boring
I disagree, I love her reactions when she's playing stuff, her scrappiness, her enthusiasm, her silliness. Her streams always make me laugh a couple times at least.

>> No.74262073

>>74256397
Kronii: The whole minecraft bullshit and that unarchived members stream where she basically cried to chat and started seriously considering stupid shit like "only playing games on stream and never offline" or "never collab with a man." She was so spineless that at the time I found it hard to watch and dropped her soon after.

Elira:
Black screen stream.
Enna: Kyo. Once he showed up her humor stopped being "haha look how much my life sucks isn't that relatable" to "this person is a piece of shit and I hope they die." He ruined her in my eyes.
Millie: WHAT HAPPENED D:

Selen: long story short, too many apology tweets and community notes. It felt like watching a battered wife go home to her abuser every single week each time she fell on a grenade for them. Thank fuck that's over with, and while I'm annoyed it took so long, I'm glad she accomplished quite a lot before she left despite how much they were holding her back. For the record I left her some time in early 2022 when I was sick of her bootlicking and it only got worse from there.

Fauna/Mumei: I have no fucking clue, actually. I still greatly enjoy their streams but I just... can't be assed to watch them most of the time and just catch the occasional vod.

Shiori: Too much energy required to actively watch her since she makes jokes very quickly and usually involves visuals. I'm getting older and busier and it's far easier to put on a stream as background noise than to have to actively keep up with all the content she's making since she's a very skilled entertainer. It's not a dig at her, and I enjoy her when I have the time, but I'm actually skill issued by her live streams.

>> No.74262139

>>74262038
Agree.

>> No.74262218

>>74262038
she's great and the only NijiEN I could honestly watch next to Pomu, but nowadays, you just feel bad for her.

>> No.74262241

>>74261675
What about the secret gc stream was so offensive? It was just parroting a lot of the stuff talked about here wasn't it? Was it hated here because it drew attention to here? Or did you guys not like what you saw in the mirror?

>> No.74262423

>>74262241
Yeah it was so inoffensive, other NijiEN members specifically Pomu and Mysta liked it so much. Fuck off, sister.

>> No.74262544

>>74262423
No seriously, why did you guys hate it? I can never get a straight answer? I'll just assume you didn't like get called out, I understand why you'd hate that.

>> No.74262808

>>74260939
Being 3dpd idols

>> No.74262857

>>74262544
I already gave you an answer but I'll reiterate it for you, Paki-chan. It caused unnecessary drama for the whole branch, and specifically made Pomu and Mysta uncomfortable. It's not about getting called out, it's about starting shit when you literally don't have to. Ever heard of the phrase "don't feed the trolls"?

>> No.74263028

>>74256397
>Pomu
>Elira
Luxiem genuinely killed the branch for me. I enjoyed the random collabs when the Lazulight girls would hop in VC but it sucked having Shu and Luca force their way into every single one.

>Kronii
too many breaks and I lost interest

>> No.74263196

>>74262808
Honestly one of the dumbest decisions ever. If it wasn't for the cute 2D avatars helping them get over their irl visual disadvantage, they'd never have gotten this far. It's like a paralympics basketball player suddenly deciding they don't need the wheelchair after all.

>> No.74263283

>>74263196
They've been trying to be 3d pig idols for years

>> No.74263297

>>74263196
I don't wanna see their doxx but I wanna know how you would rate them from 1-10

>> No.74263375

>>74262241
It's more that it wasn't actually reflective of the chatter /here/ and instead exposed all of THEIR insecurities for people to bash them with. Nobody /here/ gave a shit about Pomu's 3D problems, nor did anyone know it was a big deal to her or anyone in the company. Ever wonder where the phrase "golden 20" and "flopsoleil" came from? /we/ didn't make that. That came from the stream. They just handed ammo to their worst haters for no reason and made everybody involved uncomfortable.

>> No.74263452

>>74263297
I'd honestly say 8, but my standards are low and they bump up to a 10 because there's two of them and they're fucking adorable in sync. They're clearly fit to some extent due to all of the dance practice.

>> No.74263458

>>74259976
She resents being in HoloEN by constantly translating and speaking a majority of English during her streams?

>> No.74263544 [DELETED] 

>>74263452
I think you've been fooled by the filters they use in pictures and videos.
>>74263297
Based on raw 3rd party footage, closer to 4s, and only that high because at least they aren't fat.

>> No.74263679

>>74263544
Eh, I think I just don't really care about looks much I guess. They're adorable and earnest and that makes everything scale upwards.

>> No.74263680

>>74263375
Wait, so they faux mocked Pomu's 3D problems and she wasn't even part of the chat?
Isn't that just bullying?

>> No.74263694

>>74256397
>>74257057
Yeah this reads like a sister/NDF post. Gura being thrown in randomly when the posters admit they mostly watch Niji should be telling. Also a lot of the Niji x'd being ones who left the company or spoke out. Poster two stop watching Pomu cause she became Mint shows this is all filled with straw.

>> No.74263784

I stopped watching all Vtubers and went back to watching wrestling.

>> No.74263811

>>74263784
Based

>> No.74264039

>Ame
I improved myself
>Fauna
we're not friends
>Irys
fucking boring, she's bilingual but I feel like she doesn't want anything to do with neither en nor jp, what's the point of joining a group, lame af
>Elira
I'm not her friend
>Selen
BPD
>Ollie
fake af
>Chibidoki
hypocrite
>Uto
her English has zero improvement
>Saruei
piece of shit irl

>> No.74264064

>>74263458
>speaking a majority of English during her streams?
It's not 2021 anymore

>> No.74264099

>>74264039
what did Saruei do

>> No.74264182

>>74264099
Be french

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>>74263680
Yeah, it wasn't really... funny. Just bitter and reeked of insecurities.

>> No.74264680

>>74264373
holy fuck what petty HS clique bitches
the bullying was always out in the open

>> No.74264683

>>74256397
>Your mom: Gave birth to your whiny ass

>> No.74264841

>>74264373
Sisters like >>74262241 will see this and think there's nothing wrong about it

>> No.74264876

>>74264373
Ok, if Pomu wasn't in this chat and didn't like that they were doing this then this is definitely bullying. This whole thing just seems like an excuse to talk shit about coworkers they didn't like. How the fuck did it take until Selen for bullying accusations to blow up?

>> No.74264926

>>74263694
Hi, I'm poster two
>Gura being thrown in randomly
I can't prove it to you, but I liked Gura since her debut and I only stopped watching her when her lack of streams correlated with the NijiEN girls streaming a lot more
>a lot of the Niji x'd being ones who left the company or spoke out
None of the ones I mentioned have left except Pomu you fucking stupid third worlder
>Poster two stop watching Pomu cause she became Mint
Where the fuck did I say that you retarded ESL ultranigger?

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>>74264680
It was like 14 minutes of pure seething. Pomu decided not to participate since it made it uncomfortable, and Selen wasn't even IN Elira's discord and I think she streamed through it.
I can't find the clip of pomu talking about how she didn't like the vibes going on and how she didn't want to talk about it so she didn't join. It was some minecraft clip that happened right after the stream ended.
Couldn't find it but instead found another thing that makes me seriously miss what could've been. God, there was so much real potential for NijiEN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaFbEixt6D8

>> No.74265145

I stopped watching Vtubers since they are constantly disrespecting Islam and Allah.

>> No.74265178

>>74264064
You’re right, it’s not. But that’s immaterial since she still mostly speaks English.

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>>74264876
Because people are blind and fans in nijiEN tend to either believe the whole unity bullshit or specifically hone in on one streamer at a time. I was hyperfocused on Selen so I got disillusioned after all the constant apologies and clear signs of mismanagement, so I just... left.
It didn't help that Selen was pretty much the only one TRYING to be more than just a streamer who booted up a game, streamed for 5 hours, then logged off, so she got shat on the most and tended to keep things bottled up until she explodes. I wouldn't be surprised if her closer coworkers like Fulgur or Pomu had no fucking idea how she was feeling or what was going on with her and the harassment.

>> No.74265472

>>74265101
Looking at this screenshot again and wow. I forgot how spiteful they were during that stream. Was it ever confirmed who were the members who participated? I know for sure Enna and Millie participated.

>> No.74265508

>>74265101
Okay what kind of mental illness causes people to post like this?
I'm in a creator discord full of menheras with multiple vent channels and even there at most people complain about hate comments, mental health problems, or their shitty employers/contracts. Nobody has ever done this kind of unhinged rp.

>> No.74265529

>>74264876
People just assumed most of their shit was just joking, but in retrospect it makes more sense. Enna and Millie in particular are just huge bitches.

>>74265101
>Selen wasn't even IN Elira's discord
Gee I wonder why she wasn't in the cliquecord!

>> No.74265564

>>74264876
The fans ate up the >I LOVE NIJISANJI EN pr stunt

>> No.74265597

>>74265472
yeah, enna was slumsaint and i don't remember the rest, but people tracked it down by who was streaming or not at the time and how they write
oh and waggish plonker is vox

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Streaming is a plague.

>> No.74265706

>>74265508
They're legitimately mindbroken by /vt/ so they decided to LARP it to own the haters.
You can see how well that brilliant idea played out.
Remember ALL OF THEM had to agree to do this and thought it was a good idea.

Suddenly volunteering for the black screen stream doesn't sound so far fetched, does it?

>> No.74265769

>>74265412
Do you watch Doki now? She seems so much happier out of that hell company.

>> No.74265841

>>74265636
I miss her. Didn't she reincarnate? I don't remember her new identity.

>> No.74265998

>>74265841
idk if she has a 2nd, but she still streams there.
just never sings or does skits.

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>>74265508
>>74265472
It's pretty clear slumsaint was Enna. She's the only one creative enough at roasting to make any of those posts. I forget who else was identified as what later.
If I remember right, the description was something like "Please don't acknowledge anything that happens in this stream outside of it." They knew it was going to be bad.
Here's a sped up version of it since iirc the original was like 40 minutes
https://youtu.be/zg2XZDyi7Vs

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>>74265769
Yeah, I do. I coped by telling myself I'd follow her the instant she got out and kept to it. I just didn't expect it to take so long or end like THAT.
I swear, I had an actual menhera moment for a few minutes when I heard she almost fucking died, wondering what'd happen if I was more active or supported for longer.

>> No.74266346

>>74265706
How the hell do you allow an easily ignored anonymous image board to mindbreak you this much? And so many of you? Is there something in the NijiEN water? Not even total loonies like Yuko or Kyoresu would sink to this extent with all the hate they've gotten.

>> No.74267252

>>74266197
Zaion got fired for a few jokes and these cunts are still there

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>>74266346
also remember that this was at the start of 2023. They were absolutely still big, though not as big as they were in 2022. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the first real, visible domino to fall in the start of EN's collapse.

>> No.74267555

Nijisanji EN 2022-2024 - What if Opie and Anthony, but anime and not as funny

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74267763

>>74266197
Eh, surely it can't be that ba
>"slumsaint" namedrops 4chan like 2 seconds in
>The next few messages from the others are just harmless shitposting
>slumsaint IMMEDIATELY derails the conversation towards actively making fun of the talents
Whoever slumsaint is, they come across as the most hateful fuckin' snake on the planet. If that is in fact Enna, then I now understand why people despise her so much and also fully agree with them on principle.

>> No.74267889

>>74267763
It's very clearly Enna because they make a joke about Enna's virginity. No one else gives a fuck.
They're clearly a very bitter person, which also fits Enna.

>> No.74268019

>>74256397
Several. The reason is always the same.
>males

>> No.74268034

>>74267889
Enna isn't even that bad looking. Most girls by her age, if they are a virgin, are so by choice. If she's actually femcel and bitter about it then her personality must be absolutely rancid for her not to be able to get laid.

>> No.74268118

>Gura
Very inconsistent stream schedules and lack of any communication made me lose any interest
>HoloJP
Daytime job makes it almost impossible to watch them, plus i'm starting to not catch up with their recent stuff (i barely know a thing about the Regloss girls and what they're all about)
>Holostars
Only really gave a damn to them because of Vesper. Once he graduated, my interest was gone
>Idol EN (Mostly Rin and Roca)
Watched them for a bit when Endless debuted. Stopped watching due to work hours of my new job conflicting with the stream hours of the girls i watched the most, plus Advent's debut
>Neuro-sama
Same reasons
>Pippa
She streams at the exact same time as Fuwamoco, and i prefer to watch the twins

>> No.74268185

>>74268034
There's also the fact that her voice is so fucking grating I can't listen to her for more than 5 seconds without clawing my ears off.

>> No.74268240

>>74261675
What's up with VSPOEN, anyways? Any dates for any debuts?

>> No.74268453

>>74256397
no1cares

>> No.74268507

>>74265145
based

>> No.74268536

>>74268240
I checked Twitter and it seems that they're still holding auditions. Are there even any EN vtubers who would pass their FPS 'tism requirements for auditions? I'd say Doki but hell would freeze over first before she joins another corpo

>> No.74268561

>>74268185
Imagine having sex and hearing Enna's duck voice screaming at you to fuck her harder. I'd go soft in an instant holy shit.
Enna if you're here feel free to use that line for your next 4chan rp chat.

>> No.74268591

I found Enna pretty consistently entertaining until it was revealed that all of the nastiness in that shit corpo wasn't good natured ball-busting

>> No.74268652

>>74268591
Basically. I thought her humor was hilarious until it started to slip that it wasn't just jokes...

>> No.74268661

>>74256397
I dropped Pikamee when she moved to doing twitch streams and segregated her english viewerbase there.

>> No.74268705

>>74268536
Yeah, i honestly don't have any expectations for their EN branch now that Doki, most likely, won't be joining them. I think they're just too late to enter the EN sphere.

>> No.74268710

>>74268536
I think Brave group's auditions are permanently open. They're always recruiting for either VSPO, V4Mirai, or Globie. The latter two are already on their second waves and not a peep from VSPO so I really think they just can't find the talents for it lol

>> No.74268714

>>74268118
I really like Roca's singing voice but EU hours fucking suck, and most of her karaoke streams are unarchived

>> No.74268788

>>74268591
Like any cuntish character, they're only fun until they cross the lines.
Enna was fun when she's was being a bitch that still somewhat was trying to pander to her fans.

Then she decided she was too good for that and started going out of her way to insult the people who actually liked what she had been doing.

>> No.74268792

>>74256397
>why

>are

>you

>typing

>like

>this,

>nigga?

>> No.74268849

>>74268714
Her voice is amazing and her song choices are based as hell, just a darn shame i'm unable to watch them live

>> No.74268926

>>74268705
>>74268710
Yeah, it's hard to find any western women that has the FPS 'tism for some reason. Hopefully they don't get desperate enough to hire twitch valorant streamers

>> No.74269130

Erika - graduated (if you're /here/ erika please come back we miss you)
Elira - she seemed chill and comfy and played some of my favorite games, but after everything (particularly the black screen stream) I just don't feel comfortable watching her. Since we'll probably never get the full story I'd rather watch chuubas who are proven to be good people and aren't at the center of a massive shitstorm.

>> No.74269154

>>74265472
I think literally all of the "good ones" were streaming at the time (Rosemi Elira Pomu Selen and Nina)

Sayu for the record thought the stream was "hilarious" and a creative way to blow off steam (She actually said this on one of her first YT streams when she came back)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew9OQ3JWJ3c&t=17766s

>> No.74269161

>>74268849
Yeah, I checked out her karaoke vods and I was blown away by her powerful voice. I personally liked her Always by Bon Jovi the most.

>> No.74269189

>>74259587
>Apparently that Simpsons sign edit applies to the boys too

?

>> No.74269346

>>74268591
>>74268652
yeah, same. she appreared to be that endearing doomer until she turned out to be just some awful person
>>74269161
the thing is, I was always put off by her awful taste in songs. someone like Pomu might have been a worse singer, but her taste was so much better and her cheerful personality made watching her karaoke much more enjoyable.

>> No.74269462

>>74269154
>good ones
>Elira

>> No.74269528

>>74269346
Eh, I like most of her song choices. But yeah I agree, I like Pomu's energy more.

>> No.74269546

On the topic of singers I really did like Enna's voice. She was a technically excellent singer. I wish I could take her singing voice and put it on a different chuuba.

>> No.74269591

>>74269546
agree on that, it's absolutely insane the difference between her talking and singing voice. night and day

>> No.74269738

>>74269546
Honestly when it comes to discussions like "singers" for vtubers, it's always a bit laughable.
Enna might be good compared to the bottom of the barrels like Elira or something, but she's by no means a "good singer"

It's all fun listening to randos do karaoke, but when people start trying to rank vtubers as singers it's just a joke. None of them, not even the ones hired for "singing" like Irys are particularly good singers. They're at best middle of the pack utaites.

>> No.74269743

>>74269154
I'm not surprised Sayu said that. She really isn't fit to be a corpo chuuba. Not a slight against her or anything, I just think that with her mentality and humor, she's better off as an indie

>> No.74269770

>>74261675
>my support would be better elsewhere. I still tune in from time to time but I don't supa and buy memberships anymor
based. i feel the same. id rather support literal who 0 and 1 views with my money.

>> No.74270005

>>74269546
>>74269591
I'd take it a step further and say even her humor and speaking voice is fine, and the gap between them makes a fun contrast, like with Subaru, Towa, or Kanata. I don't think we have any big chuubas who have a similar disconnect.
The problem is outside of streams she's clearly doing more than just banter, and I really can't support someone like that with a healthy conscience.
On top of that, she's wasting her talent away in that shitty corpo, not really releasing any new songs or developing her voice further. She's just coasting on whatever she had before Niji and hasn't improved at all.

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>>74268591
I never really watched any of NijiEN past Lazusydia (because I fell off of vtubing in general that September after starting uni), but all the shit I hear about Ethyria makes me kinda glad I didn't have time to develop any sort of emotional attachment to them.
I totally would've checked them out if I could've, too, because their models all look really great. Talk about dodging a bullet...

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I pretty much quit monetarily supporting all of hololive because they're all "too busy" doing advertising, recordings, and paperwork to stream games and have genuine fun magic moments like they used to. The real hololive was the spontaneous collabs and game shenanigans.

Right now, I think I'm basically just excited for Neuro-sama's development and the new girls Vedal found. Cerber is stupid cute but she's on twitch.

>> No.74270251

>>74270135
who's the gremlin on the right?

>> No.74270261

>>74269738
I mean, I'm not good enough of a singer myself to tell where she's lacking. She sounds good to me. I'm not gonna judge whether or not an anime girl is a good singer or not by professional standards, nor could I.

>> No.74270327

>>74270251
CerberVT

She's going places

>> No.74270348

>>74262073
>she basically cried to chat and started seriously considering stupid shit like "only playing games on stream and never offline" or "never collab with a man."

Damn for real? I could never tell what it was (I mean other than the obvious thing) but she sorta just sucks the happiness out of you when you watch her now.

>> No.74270679

>>74256397
>Coco
Graduated
>Aloe
Graduated
>Rushia
Graduated

>> No.74270936

>>74270348
Basically, she was criminally self loathing and had 0 self esteem. She played off as a cool girl doing what she wanted, but in reality she was so insecure she took ANY random chat comment to heart even if it was completely insane. That stream was her asking chat how to be a better streamer, and seriously considering and analyzing options. There's transparency, and then there's whatever the fuck that stream was. It was caused because chat was FURIOUS at how she was addicted to minecraft to the point of playing on her own time at all hours of the night while in her off hours, occasionally silently showing up on someone else's stream doing her thing. Those manchildren somehow felt so entitled that they believed any time played doing anything offstream is quite literally content being ripped from their eyes, as if it's a fucking zero sum system.

>> No.74271027

>Hololive Productions
I never cared for idol stuff, I just liked the idea of watching real ass-anime people. Hololive just happened to be the most accessible of those for a time. Once a bunch of culture and gender wars took over the whole company narrative, I lost interest completely. It's a shame because they had some of the most kino streams period before succumbing to the nonsense they are now.
>Nijisanji
Much closer to my ideal about what vtubing should be in theory. Just anime people making content without being pushed into specific boxes. But at some point, the drama became too much and they ceased being an EN version of their main branch.

I've mostly returned to Vinesauce and Northerlion at this point. Only Vtuber I'll check out every so often is HeavenlyFather since he's divorced from all the corpo culture war and drama bullshit that has completely infested the medium for the last few years.

>> No.74271100

>>74258902
Even as a casual Pomu enjoyer I saw the alarm bells after how Nina was treated. That and when Mika was kicked out of Niji Pomu came by her last stream that confirmed it for me. Losing the most cheerful people in an organisation to me is generally caused by a toxic environment.

>> No.74271321

>Yuko
Thought she was a funny gremlin with a side of gfe. Realized I was baited into watching a deranged, disgusting whore. unsubbed, hid her channel and muted her after the piss stream.

>Shiina
So Fucking Fake. From how she says "HEEEWWWOOO COOKIES!!" to how she can barely keep a lid on the contempt she has for the audience she's attracted. Unsubbed after the "baking cookies" stream. "Of CoUrSe I'm InCOnSiSteNt I'm A WomAn" Fuck off. I can literally choose to not be talked down to by a chick up pitching her voice into "annoying" territory. Even if there's a bit of kino sometimes.

>Airi (about to drop)
MAKE BETTER LIFE CHOICES!!!
STREAM!!!!!!
YOU WANT TO BE A BORING OFFICE LADY IN A HELL OF YOUR OWN MAKING OR DO YOU WANT TO BE A STAR? I'm sick of hearing about her shitty fucking job that she should have hopped out of 5 years ago. I'm sick of seeing the same 5 fucking people on twitter who are saving their virginity for her to reply to the 5th tweet this month going "UUUU my life sucks, *le sigh* Stream cancelled :'(" because she has no fucking time to engage in anything else aside from work, Gacha bullshit or the bare MINIMUM of content to get any new fans. I'm tired of her barely acknowledging anything her fans do/did for her because she's either too fucking busy to even think about it or maybe it's yet another job to clock into. She's talented, when she streams she get raids from the BIGGEST STAR in the fucking company. What is she fucking doing with it? Barely getting 3 hours of sleep so she can commute in the worst suburban hellhole in America and fuck with excel formulas and a bunch of moronic office drones all day. It's getting so fucking tiresome and she can do better but just isn't and it's her fault for accepting it. Also she needs to tard wrangle her mods a bit and let people have a little fun.

>> No.74271369

There's no-one I have outright stopped watching, but quite I a few I watch maybe once a month/every 2-3 months
>Kson
I membered for about a year after she left Hololive. But it just wasn't the same. Still check in from time to time just to see how she's doing.
>Henya
She's still the same but I fucking despise Twitch.
>Haachama
The long hiatus killed any interest. Like when Miko went away for a year I waited and was super hyped when she came back. Haachama just came back and apart from the special appearance at Holofes, it's been a bit flat.
>Noel
I just watch her RM instead

>> No.74271530

After reading this thread I've come to the conclusion that the vast majority of you incredibly thin skinned pussies. Because for me it's just
>Layna
Gradually drifted away. Still like her in collabs though
>Snuffy
Same
>Nyanners
BF took up too much of her stream time. Aethel's cool but I liked watching Nyan streams for solo Nyan and both of them basically fused with each other's channels after going public and haven't really separated since.
>Onigiri
Moved to Japan, moved her streaming hours to a time that is too inconvenient for me. Would love to watch her regularly again but it's too hard to keep up now.

That's it for people I super actively watched at one point and no longer do. Everyone else was either an occasional watcher.

>> No.74271664
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>>74270135
Neuro has been the best investment of my time since my jp kamioshi and the cute indie jp I'm totally not grooming. I prefer her sister but they're both incredibly fun to watch

>> No.74271686

>>74271321
>Airi
I agree. She should just ditch her current job and focus on streaming, especially because it's apparent that her job actually drains her a lot. She's got a really sweet voice and her tangents can be funny but it's a shame she doesn't prioritize streaming when she has the talent for it.

>> No.74271738

>>74262544
It exposed how hypocritical they are too each other in public. Nice family you got there. The equivalent would be wearing Nazi costumes to the normalfags who are the majority of your fanbase just to appeal to a minority. It's fucking stupid.

>> No.74271986

>>74271686
She doesn't even have to not work. Just choose to not work for a complete and utter hellhole literally 2 fucking hours away from your house. Honey, you can LITERALLY CHOOSE to make your life suck less. Whyyy.....

Gah (°□°)︵ ━

>> No.74272079

>>74271738
what's funny to me is that i stayed the hell away from 4chan for years. then the selen termination happened and i couldn't resist

>> No.74272107

Everyone in Hololive EN either doesn't stream, streams only for JP, or they feel stuck in a rut. Vrev also kinda collapsed.

At this point, I'm not really sure any of the big VTubers are worth watching anymore...

>> No.74272270

>>74268034
She gets railed partying every Friday and streams late every Saturday for a month apologising for hurt tummy and asking for money. That's before shitting on her Dad's 2nd family or whoever she feels like which includes chat. Then proceeds to all in cuck role play with Kyo while still talking about her grocery shopping and normalfag things. That's the Enna experience, along with being unfit due to her smoker voice.

>> No.74272276
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Millie: it felt like every other time she hung out with Enna a little piece of shittiness would break through, so I stopped watching. I guess my read on her was correct.

All of current and former VShojo: The many Silvervale dramas, the Froot stuff, they made me side with Nux's annoying ass... There's just too much going on with them. The only one I might consider going back to is Zen.

Selen: Remember when she had the meltdown from RPR's banter? I still have a hard time watching her after that. My autism just brings back the second hand embarrassment too frequently when I try watching her streams. I even generally like her; I don't know man.

Numi: Started feeling stale. Every other joke was how she's embarrassed from the same thing that happens every five minutes from a sub alert. "Oh no guys not the Nyamune song" (that she sang herself and has heard countless times because her chat spammed it).

Snuffy: One of her friends talked shit about my two-view oshi, so I scorched earth their entire group from my subs and follows.

>> No.74272326

>>74271369
>fucking despise Twitch
I watched Ironmouse from time to time; but I didn't bother with it much either until it became apparent that Nina would probably reappear there. Bought an Apple TV for her debut.

>> No.74272407

>>74271738
So you are offended that the majority of fans who are normies, with no knowledge of what happens here would be disturbed by the stream? You are mad because they... confused, frightened the fans? In this guerilla stream that was immediately unarchived?
So I get that Nijifans and former nijifans might hate it for such reasons... but they only reason I can think of for ardent niji-antis to hate it is that it resembled them too closely and they didn't like being mocked. But the only way they could get offended by it is if it resembled their conversations so much.

>> No.74272420

>>74271986
I really want to buy her membership because her voice and model tickles my brain in a good way but the fact that she willingly continues to handicap herself with that bullshit job of hers makes me doubt if it's going to be worth it.

>> No.74272476

>>74272079
That's what NijiEN gets for under estimating a den of schizos. Rrats rammed so far up their ass normal people started paying attention to them.

>> No.74272478

>>74256397
>doubles down on the korean plastic surgery joke just to apologize like a little bitch
Kyo deserves no sympathy.

>> No.74272639

>>74272478
I'd say that in his defense, management probably forced him to bend the knee but it's Kyo so fuck him, honestly

>> No.74272671

>>74272270
The first sentence is pure incel fantasy delusion conjured from tears.
And interacting with male= you feel cucked confirms it.

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>>74256397
>Henya
It's not the same... I liked Pikamee more but I will admit it was because of the avatar even if now she is fuckable as fuck, also nostalgia
>Gura
No streams
>IRyS
Sorry but I got tired of the JP karaokes, I expected an EN singer when she debuted
>Kiara
While I really like her, the moment I made Selen my kamioshi I couldnt keep up... both stream A LOT and my free time got cut after things returned to normal after COVID
Sorry Chimkin, I still tune in on the karaokes
>Elira
Her streams werent for me even if she was GFE-lite... but even then I still tuned in sometimes, everything changed after the black screen stream...
>Rosemi- Vivi
Sorry but I cant watch Niji anymore even if they did nothing wrong... both hurt the same since Rosemi was part of the WOO Girls and I watched her a lot on the Lazusydia era, Vivi also hurts because she had Pomu and Selen as oshis

>> No.74272841

>>74272276
Want more reasons to dislike Selen?
Her TSB pouting tantrums when they were losing.
Made a grown man (Bonni) cry
Delaying the Splatoon tournament unprofessionally

>> No.74272913

>>74272841
>Made a grown man (Bonni) cry
>me when I'm a Nijinig lying on the internet

>> No.74272988

>>74272841
Tbh, I'm fuzzy on the circumstances of that, so disregard that point, but the other two stand.

>> No.74272995

>>74256397
>all of them
>stopped giving a shit
i just subtly shit up the fan discords these days, haven't watched a stream in months

>> No.74273014

>>74257057
>Rosemi
>Boring
You gotta watch her just dance streams. Also her GTA SA and IV are fucking funny, the weirdest shit happens only to her.

https://youtu.be/4d1DInuwteA?si=5NpFBhuGNDMiqKEB

>> No.74273094

>>74263297
You know the group of normal girls in your school that sat at the table next to yours and your buddy once mentioned that he thinks girl B is cute but she looks pretty average to you and if anything girl C is the cute one? Theyre girl B.

>> No.74273114

>>74273014
Her GTA streams were kino. Doesn't help that I'm biased as fuck because I grew up playing San Andreas

>> No.74273165

>>74272720
>Elira
Until February I just thought of her as a chill streamer with decent taste in games and a good singing voice. And I still think that comfy librarian outfit is hot as fuck.

She wasn't my main but I dropped in from time to time. Fucking hell, what a heel turn.

I still hold a fool's hope that she'll apologize and rebuild one day.

>> No.74273273

>>74272420
It's really just two good wallpapers a month and a few member streams plus one cutesy vod. The wallpapers are way better than Rie's imo (they're on my steamdeck desktop and make me smile like an idiot when I see them) but eh? I'm still a member and I think it's worth it but she's a tough sell atm. I love her but she does need to do better. Gen 3 and one of the Jp's is making it tough to stay enthusiastic about her.

>> No.74273427

>>74271027
>Only Vtuber I'll check out every so often is HeavenlyFather since he's divorced from all the corpo culture
Sorry, he's /in/

>> No.74273440

>>74257057
>Fulgur
>He pissed off the Kindreds with his debut
What happened?

>> No.74273486

>>74273440
they already had a deep sexy british voice on tap

>> No.74273491

>>74272841
I feel like you didn't read the whole section about Selen if your takeaway was "dislike".

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>>74267441
damn retard

>> No.74273543

>>74272841
>Delaying the Splatoon tournament unprofessionally
[citation needed]

>> No.74273584

>>74272276
>Snuffy: One of her friends talked shit about my two-view oshi, so I scorched earth their entire group from my subs and follows.
Who did?

>> No.74273600

>>74273491
It's a mind broken nijisister please andastand

>> No.74273610

>>74256397
Rosemi - Became a little too annoying to watch. She also toned the hype down quite a bit after leaving her former job as she became lazier. Also, after the black stream, I don't really feel like giving a penny to that black company she still works for.

Haachama - That horror meltdown arc after she came back from Australia was one of the best things to ever happen in vtubing history, don't get me wrong. However, she's hardly any creative or inovative these days and Harry Potter is really not my thing. I'm pretty fond of how stubborn she is though, so once she decides what the hell she wants to do she'll surely soar once more.

Sayu - She has both the talent and the effort to get bigger and bigger, but her strong feelings for shit that went down in the past (be it kurosanji or anyone that ever crossed her before) gets A LOT in the way. Once she learns to let shit go and stop wasting time dramafagging, people will notice how good she really is.

Froot - Don't hate the girl, it's just I've moved away from the games she's playing right now and the kind of content she's doing.

FuwaMoco - I'll be honest: I like them and I don't have too much problem if they want to branch out. That being said, the recent criticism they've been receiving is kinda valid. However, they don't have any obligation to cater to the needs of the EN public... and I don't have any obligation to keep supporting them either.

Selen - Terminated in the most traumatic way possible and for the most stupid reasons, too.

Pomu - Graduated.

Mika - Graduated.

Coco/Kson - Coco was Graduated. As for Kson, I've moved from the kind of content she is doing.

Numi - She's a solid DJ and I like how she sings. But coomer content gets old pretty fast.

Kiara - Pandering to the mean girls of NijiEN (especially Elira) finally made me let go of the orange woman. She needs to realize that just because the girls she fancies have good-smelling vaginas doesn't mean they are good persons.

There are a few others, but the list is already long as it is.

>> No.74273616

>>74273014
>*sees a bong on the couch of a drug den*
>"Ooh, teacup! Is it time for tea?"


Plucking wuv da wose

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All the ones i liked graduated or got fired I can speak both japanese and chiense so it's not a langauge issue having a parent of both nationality helped a lot there :P

i might have watched eilra if she wasen't part of the betrayer trio

>> No.74273819

>>74272407
Its the gap. They are self aware what this place is but tried to treat this community as something beneath them like how they treat normal watchers. Don't step on a scorpion if you don't want to get stung. You have people in the biz, the absolute dissolusioned fans, enthusiasts and the functional schizos. Pick which one tore NijiEN a new asshole. They were so mentally fucked lurking here they screwed up publicly. They did their best not to pick any choice theorised here they picked the worst one because no one could have predicted they were that stupid. A fucking NijiEN manager was /here/ when schizo rrats were investigating the credibility of Selen's tweets and deduced skin walking on the day it was posted. Imagine a corpo with their style of writing trying to shit post.

>> No.74273824

>>74273672
Out of the black screen 3, Ike hurt the most. Cute comfy Swedish boy who can do the screams good.

Really makes me wonder what they had on him.

>> No.74273925

>>74272671
Enna talking about mundane normalfag shit is every stream of hers. She has no real content. That and haha hate.

>> No.74273931

>>74273610
>Haachama
The schizo arc was so fucking, it's amazing that she mostly just winged it
>Sayu
Yeah I agree. I understand where she's coming from because she's obviously hurt by it but she has to let go if she wants to grow as a vtuber.

>> No.74273943

>>74273584
I don't want to say her name because it might inadvertently steer traffic to her. Fuck that bitch.

>> No.74274150

>>74273943
Spill it. No one should stomp down in this industry and get away with it.

>> No.74274160

>>74273014
Dunno if you checked out her Detroit become human streams but they are hilarious. She kept trying to get Connor/Hank to be a thing and its funny as fuck

>> No.74274347

>>74256397
>Finana
Not because any of the drama but she doesn't have the same charm anymore. Her Yuppie Psycho playthrough was one of my favorite playthroughs of hers. The drunk stream with her and Elira on Halloween a couple years back was hilarious. But as of late all I could watch was her Yakuza stuff. Also going back on doing ASMR was just a shit thing to do.
>Enna
I did enjoy Enna and Kyo's dynamic early on. It was funny, but yeah they run that too hard and I bailed after the hand thing.

>> No.74274560

>>74272841
>> Made a grown man (Bonni) cry
You're talking about the bangalore arguments when hada was in the call? If you were a hada fan and mad that they made her uncomfortable I'd understand it, but the two of them were laughing literally seconds later. I'm insulted for Bonni, the counterstrike and cod player, that you thought that made him cry.
>>Her TSB pouting tantrums when they were losing.
Both games were full of tough beats, and axel went on tilt too. You gotta call him out too as their IGL, if not more.
Tilt makes you look like a child. At least she had the maturity to walk away and get the nerves and emotions out with 1v1s with their coach.
You really just don't understand being competitive huh?
The one thing I'd knock her for is not being assertive, when it's obvious as fuck axel's on tilt too.

>> No.74274589

>>74274347
I don't really blame her for trying it and finding out that it's just not for her. It takes a certain kind of psychological fortitude to do stuff that's adjacent to sex work, especially on a regular basis. Not everyone's cut out for it.

>> No.74274848

>>74274560
It's such a shame because TSB did well on scrims

>> No.74274934

>>74272407
>So I get that Nijifans and former nijifans might hate it for such reasons... but they only reason I can think of for ardent niji-antis to hate it is that it resembled them too closely and they didn't like being mocked. But the only way they could get offended by it is if it resembled their conversations so much.

It didn't. The bigger thing is that it added way, way more fuel to the fire by touching on subjects the people /here/ didn't even know about, like how self conscious Pomu was about her 3D, and how desperately insecure iluna and xsoleil were about not being part of the "golden generation." All they did was give their antis attention and let them know that not only was it working, but hey, here's MORE shit to beat us over the head with!

Now with the context of interpersonal harassment within NijiEN? It looks way, way worse.

>> No.74275121

>>74273925
Just because you don't like the content, doesn't mean it isn't content. You see, other people's interests and preferences exist outside your head, which is not the center of the world. The inability to recognize other perspectives is a telling sign. Some people want mundane everyday talk.

What is "real" content? Could you even define it? Is it only "real" if you like it? Dunno, might have to get you on that spectrum there.

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>>74273616
>Sorry for killing you but my homies crave some high quality coca cola

>> No.74275788

>>74274560
>You really just don't understand being competitive huh?
I feel like this is understated. Some people get mad at vidyagame, especially pvp ones that they feel they should do well in. It's not like it mattered to those she played with, either. She's still friends with basically every single one of them.

>> No.74275820

>>74275369
i accept my fate

>> No.74275898

>>74274150
I commend your zeal anon, but the shit talker isn't relevant anymore. I sometimes see her in my Twitch recommended, and she struggles to keep 20 viewers nowadays. That's why I don't want to divert even a single viewer to her.

>> No.74275944

>>74271027
>Hololive
Tell me, which side would you be on? I'm on the side that doesnt segregate just because some lonely losers' delusion would break.

>> No.74276016

>>74267252
No. Zaion got fired for not being part of the clique and her "colleagues" threw her under the bus. Every joke she made was almost identical to those made by other Niji talents.

>> No.74276550

>>74275944
Unicorns and sisters are the worst

>> No.74276627

>>74274848
Yeah, it was tough. But shit happens when you move from scrims to the tourney... even when you're not playing NA teams who dog scrims. Sometimes you just get tough beats. Most players (except for absolute goats or a rare royal roader) just take a year or two of tournaments to overcome the nerves

>> No.74276676

>>74276016
Once again, you people fail to realize how serious sexual assault and making a joke about it is. No one else in the company made a remotely comparable joke. And it wasn't just "offensive jokes' that got her fired. Go look at the laundry list on the notice.

>> No.74276682

>>74268118
>pippa
dude, her content has gotten sadly lazy as of late. it's a real shame because I love pippa, but god damn, she's just lot like she used to be

>> No.74276864

>>74276676
the vast majority of which was bullshit. and Zaion knew she fucked up halfway through telling the joke. still doesn't hold a candle to what the others were doing behind the scenes.

>> No.74276942

>>74276676
It's not very serious. Rather it shouldn't be. It is a problem simply because of twitards who feel the abject need to virtue signal about anything and everything. Also, yeah, believe the same company that made a similar laundry list for Selen.

>> No.74277044

>>74276676
You're fucking retarded. plenty of people in Niji made similar jokes and even outside of Niji. Hell, Pekora made the exact same joke as Zaion did (and took it further kek), but no one gave a shit. Why? because Hololive doesn't have a shitty cartel clique like Niji.

>> No.74277167

>>74276942
It's serious, but it's something she should have been allowed to apologize for and move on from.

>> No.74277385

>>74256397
>FUWAMOCO
Cause they collabed with Ollie. I can forgive the hiatus but that collab was the straw off the camel's back that ruined the magic.

>> No.74277400

>>74277044
proof?

>> No.74277473

>>74275121
Flesh streamer larping as a vtuber

>> No.74277640

>>74276682
new fag Pippa has been doing dogshit content for centuries literally half of her videos are reaction shit

>> No.74277686

>>74276676
>Sees her naked
>No wonder she...
Didn't even finish the joke pal. Maybe she was going to say something else entirely.

>> No.74277688

>>74277400
watch streams

>> No.74277713

>>74277688
link faggot

>> No.74277720

>>74277044
I'll reiterate... the joke alone did not get her fired. If nothing else was wrong, she'd be fine. She'd probably get a week suspension or something. And, please, show these similar jokes. Wow me.
It wasn't just a rape joke btw. It was a joke implying a rape victim deserved to be raped, or that it was acceptable/made sense why she was raped.
I'm not even that offended by it. But it was a serious matter, no matter how you much you guys think it was "no big deal".

>> No.74277736

>>74276676
Enna being a paedophile peddler on strram should warrent termination but favouritism exists in Niji, EN and JP.

>> No.74277789

>>74256397
Calli, Ame, Kronii
Mostly the same as op, its connor drama that make me stop watching calli

>> No.74277834

>>74277789
>Calli

>> No.74277916

>>74277736
Don't know what you're talking about, elaborate

>> No.74277931

>>74257057
>watches male vtuber
>drops male vtuber because he's male
??????

>> No.74278009

What I'm learning from this thread is that men are the least loyal fanbase to ever have as a vtuber.

>> No.74278026

>>74277473
Gatekeeping what a vtuber should be, when you could just watch the vtubers with the content you like and ignore her, you have a problem

>> No.74278078

>>74277720
It is a big deal, but it shouldn't be. It was a fictional character and context is important. Sheobviously didn't mean it like that. Again, 10 or 15 years ago it would have been a nothingburger. Now people just want to find ways to be mad and have the moral highground.

>> No.74278120

>holo en, mostly kiara
got boring when it was clear there was 0 actual real chemistry between anyone, or barely any interest in trying to be entertaining in general
>niji en, mostly pomu
ethyria debuted and instantly they were doing impromptu collabs everywhere suddenly, and while all of ethyria sucks holy fucked nina sucked extra hard around her debut and I could not stomach the idea of having to hear her in someone else's stream one more time
>phase, mostly tenma
got extremely turned off by the tourist dramafag baiting that permeated the corpo

>> No.74278445

>nihmune
the horny arc got too much
>dokibird
too much laughing got annoying
>chibidoki, bao, juniper, shylily
I just got tired watching on twitch. I guess I only watch twitch more when Worlds is coming up

>> No.74278462

>>74278120
those are some choice bad opinions. thank you for sharing

>> No.74278494

>>74278078
Funnily enough I think people in 2014 would still find it a big deal. But 20-25 years ago, sure.

>> No.74278506
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74278506

>>74256397

>> No.74278582

>>74277720
>implying a rape victim deserved to be raped, or that it was acceptable/made sense
Literally not true.

>> No.74278621

>>74272276
>my two-view oshi
Do you wanna shill her?

>> No.74279023

>>74278462
sorry not sorry, whichever fan you are (guessing phase)

>> No.74279490

>Ironmouse
Too much shipbaiting that got so awkward, stuck up sometimes
>Nyanners
All down hill when Aethel became all of her content.

>> No.74279720

>>74279490
nyanners went downhill in 2015 when she went all menhera about her pomf song

>> No.74279736

>>74278582
>Looks at body
>Ohhh..no wonder she got (immediate backtracking and stammering)

True. At least people could interpret it that way, even if she didn't literally say it.

>> No.74279809

>>74277720
retard

>> No.74280004
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74280004

>>74277720
Enna Alouette.
I rest my case.

>> No.74281144

>>74277916
NTA, nor the poster (>>>74248891) of this pasta, but here you go, it is not a pleasant thing.

>Drunk Enna shares CP with Ethyria in their discord chat:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv-7Jzz6mos&t=8869s [Embed]
>Enna: want to see a picture of my favorite child when I worked with them in Japan?
>Enna: I like children, yeah they are cute
>The rest says positive random stuff while Enna is looking for the picture. But once she post it in their discord chat:
>Enna: HAHAHAHA THIS ONE
>Enna: don't... (likely as in don't describe it)
>Reimu: OH MY GOD!
>Nina: Oh God!
>Millie: This will get you cancelled Babu. I think you should delete it.
>Reimu: yeah
>Enna: It is so cute tho
>Reimu and Millei: no it is not
>Enna:It is cute, he is so cute. It is my favorite kid.
>Nina: Oh my God!
>Enna: hahahaha
>Reimu: Oh right, that was something! Jesus Can we move on the next topic?
>Nina: YEAH, YEAH, YEAH...
>Enna: Wait I have a really cute one. WAIT Looking for it

>> No.74282820

>>74273931
>Sayu
All she needs to do is... to pass on
>cue Pass On from Limbus Company

>> No.74282877

>>74277385
>recent ollie collab was canceled by ollie
>anon is just lying

>> No.74282956

>>74256397
>Nyanners
This one was my fault, really. I haven't done any reps beforehand.
>Enna
Being a cunt wasn't just for the bit. The Kyo thing was whatever until he started anti-ing Zaion and Enna never gave a shit.
>Yuko Yurei
Kinda boring after a while, same with all of idol, actually, her Karaokes suck.
>Yuzu
Admitted being in a 3P, instant drop.
>Zaion
Got fucking fired, Sayu's first 6 months back she rarely streamed and I moved on. Now she's a massive menhera.

I've just been a Phase fag since November and I'm just waiting when I'll eventually drop vtubers.

>> No.74282997
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74282997

>>74277385
>hiatus
>longest gap between streams was less than 2 weeks.

>> No.74283004

>>74282956
>yuzu
worse, she admitted to being double penetrated

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