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69593791 No.69593791 [Reply] [Original]

> Niji hiring managers who actually speak english
Well someone got fired

https://doda-jp.translate.goog/DodaFront/View/JobSearchDetail/j_jid__3009663353/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

>> No.69593903

>>69593791
>Top share in the industry
>Coordination work between clients and creators
>gaining popularity and momentum
>The number of Vtuber is over 100
>we provide comprehensive services including debut support, event planning

KEK

>> No.69594062

>>69593791
>Well someone got fired
Elira

>> No.69594072

>>69593791
Whats the pay like

WHATS THE PAY LIKE

>> No.69594121

>>69594072
I would assume minimum wage

>> No.69594125

>>69593791
besides he $8/hr pay, what's stopping you guys from applying and getting the chance to destroy niji from the inside?

>> No.69594141

>>69594125
Dignity.

>> No.69594155

Elira didn't post the family tweet about supporting artists and is been radio silent since the black screen stream. Make of that what you will.

>> No.69594174

>>69594125
Being bullied myself

>> No.69594199

>>69594072
Estimated annual salary: 4.2 million yen - 6.5 million yen ($28,046.89-$40,093.95)
Monthly salary (basic salary): 350,000 yen ($2,337.46)

>> No.69594208

>>69593791
>Implying someone got fired
Sayu revealed that none of the management at nijiEN speak English and need talents to translate. After the debacle with Selen, they are FINALLY getting a manager that speaks English

>> No.69594212

>>69594155
lmao hopeful

>> No.69594237

>>69594125
They probably want to have zoom call with you at least, legit too embarrassed for that

>> No.69594254

>>69594199
foe a grad position? that's just sad

>> No.69594258

>>69594199
that's terrible

>> No.69594262

>>69594199
>2k per month
grim

>> No.69594269

>>69593791
This isn't management of the livers though, it's sales coordination between English speaking sponsors and the company.

This isn't the job listing you're looking for.

>> No.69594297

>>69594125
Nah do we really need to go there while they fumble at the most basic things and we can grab popcorn, chill and warm ourselves with its burning mess

>> No.69594305

>>69593791
>number of employees 323 people
>Cover is understaffed at over 500 employees
they have a long road ahead of them...

>> No.69594306

>>69594254
>>69594258
that's like billions in pajeet/seadog money

>> No.69594316

>>69594269
> Duties include "Coordination work between clients and creators "

You could be right, but this sounds like part of talent management to me

>> No.69594336

>>69594306
then why change if everything will be the same again?

>> No.69594337

>>69593791
isnt that one of the old job applications?
anyways, reqs:
>school graduate

>> No.69594341

>>69594254
Not everyone makes American salaries like $60k a year stacking shelves in Walmart

$2300 is like the average European monthly salary and it's an entry level position

>> No.69594369

>>69594125
The actual job posting is in japanese and not available in english. Even though the listing doesn't specify japanese fluency, they aren't even going to look at your resume unless it's written in fluent, non-MTL japanese.

Anycolor has 0 interest engaging with english-speakers. You are a native-level japanese speaker that happens to be willing to translate to business-level english for free, or you are not their candidate.

>> No.69594380
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69594380

>>69594337
> posted Monday

>> No.69594400

>>69594155
Shadow Banned along with Vox. I honestly wonder who they will terminate, if its just Elira the Black company label isn't going to stop. Nijisanji are so far up their ass not having publicly reprimanded is a horrible sign along with confessions. It's still an organisation that uses up talent, look at Vivi becoming a goblin mest shield for example.

>> No.69594424

>28k - 43k USD salary

I made more working as a butcher when I was in college...

>> No.69594452

>>69594316
The way the posting is written, the main focus is sales and their partnerships.

>You could be right, but this sounds like part of talent management to me
Sure, but this isn't anything that will improve the overall work environment for the talents. the goal of this is to be insure the talent delivers what the company is getting paid for.

>> No.69594475

>>69594341
Maybe in east europe here in real europe minimum wage is like 25€/27$

>> No.69594492

>>69594337
>>69594380
There's also this one

https://doda-jp.translate.goog/DodaFront/View/JobSearchDetail/j_jid__3009660492/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

■Job details:
You will be responsible for the management of the members of the VTuber group "NIJISANJI EN", which targets English-speaking countries. You will be involved in creative work such as supporting all of the livers' activities and working with them to create real live performances.
<Specifically>
You will be responsible for the following tasks related to the "NIJISANJI EN" Liver
・Management and coordination of schedules ・
Preparation and recording of live performances (3D streaming live, real events, etc.), performance support
・Related illustrations Progress management of productions, quality checks
, branding support
, permission management of various rights related to activities
, management of contracts with labels for artist activities
, analysis of YouTube channels, planning proposals

(...)

<Language ability>
Requirements: English Advanced, Intermediate Japanese

<Language Supplement>
Native level English proficiency

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69594535

>>69594199
That's what I was getting at a manufacturing job that made medical equipment after a promotion

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69594549

>>69594492

>> No.69594562

>>69594341
yea but this should be a good oportunity to do some PR and offer a really nice salary, just to signal that they actually care now, it would also attract more competent people.

>> No.69594601

>>69594341
>$60k a year in Walmart
What the hell are you talking about? A Walmart retail employee only makes $25k a year in America

>> No.69594620

>>69594199
Dogshit, but still pays more than being a liver I guess.

>> No.69594640

>>69594199
2k per month damn, I worked part-time in legal consultant with just 2 languages EN-JP in my final year in uni and got double of that...

>> No.69594707

>>69594492
Not even an estimate of how many talents/size of team you are handling?
That's a bad posting for a manager position. Expect getting everything shoved down your throat lmao.

>> No.69594730

>>69594620
absolutely livers got no salary and Nijisisters have been using that from day-1 to tell people the livers are not Kurosanji employees lmao

>> No.69594756

>>69594475
>Maybe in east europe
Hell no, you're lucky to break $1000 a month over here if you're not a tech parasite

>> No.69594921

>>69594707
That's something the candidate can ask during the interview.

>> No.69594971

>>69594452
It would be extremely funny if this is Elira's old position. Would explain a lot about how she kept getting all the sponsorships and merch deals if she was the one cutting the deals in the first place. Also means all the real managers were likely to listen to her.

>> No.69595017

>>69594125
They seem to be pretty efficient in destroying themselves without me already

>> No.69595019

>>69594341
European here. Entry level in my country is usually a bit over 1000€. 2300€ would be considered quite generous. Currently I'm being paid 1200€ myself.

Not gonna get involved in that cesspool tho. No matter how much they pay.

>> No.69595026

>>69594730
The fact that they need perms and management permission to perform the job easily suggests otherwise. A contractor operates with little/no oversight at their own directions. Not to mention the restrictive and exclusive nature of their contracts, a contractor is generally free to accept work from any party at any time. They couldn't work for Niji one week and Holo the next, for instance

>> No.69595072

>>69594125
But whoever is in there right now is destroying it from the inside.

>> No.69595074

>>69595019
The salary would've been a lot better a year ago. The yen has crashed really hard

>> No.69595124

>>69594492
But what's preventing a new clique from forming?

>> No.69595130

>>69594199
I seen construction/general labor jobs pay more than this without or to little experience.

>> No.69595138
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69595138

>>69594475
Hello there Luxembourger. I zdd you haven't yet realized you live in a priviledged nobility region!

>> No.69595153

>>69595026
yeah you gotta tell that to the Nijisisters claiming the livers are not employees and should not have those employee rights on the matter, man those arguments being spammed in the NDF are pesky as heck and downright cruel to even their oshis lmao

>> No.69595215

>>69594306
well do you want another pajeet/seadog manager or a native english speaking manager

>> No.69595222

>>69593791
>A company that operates the VTuber Business "Nijisanji Project" and is gaining popularity and momentum
i cant believe they still have the face to tell such a bold faced lie

>> No.69595292

>>69595019
Portugal huh

>> No.69595365

Its over for Rosemi

>> No.69595373

>>69594306
Then their communication issues will never go away and whoever it is will start a dramafag channel after he quits

>> No.69595378

>>69594199
That's a huge lot in Japan, nice.

>> No.69595428

>>69595292
Spain, actually... and I didn't even get into the fuckery where most entry level positions pay you 60% of the salary because they claim to be "training and therefore only working half time" despite working 8 hours a day.

>> No.69595470

>>69595138
This chart may be true, but you don't know what the fuck you're talking about

For example: Finland doesn't have a "national minimum wage", but it does have multiple "industry-wide minimum wages"

>> No.69595518

>>69595470
>Finland doesn't have a "national minimum wage", but it does have multiple "industry-wide minimum wages"
that actually makes sense

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69595634

>>69594921
>Ask during the interview
Didn't do well for Zaion.

>> No.69595664

>>69595518
It's how it should work in any sane country, but unfortunately we want to destroy domestic industry everywhere by assuming everyone deserves the same pay

>> No.69595722

>>69595470
Most people have that. Its called a Collective Agreement. Fun fact: in many EU countries it is legal for one of those to agree to a lower minimum salary than the national minimum salary. How the fuck is that legal? Well according to the EU it isn't but they didn't start enforcing shit till a few months ago which is why my country (Spain) has only made it illegal now.
Again, hello Luxemburger. Everyone else in the Union can see your kind from a mile away. Welcome to the rest of the continent.

>> No.69595723

>>69594199
That's a lot in Japan so good for them I guess?

>> No.69595740

>>69594492
>paying 40k salary for a bilingual graduate
bro they better offer better than that

>> No.69595923

>>69593791
>Strength
>Gaining popularity and momentum
Yeah, downward momentum
>The number of vtuber is over 100
This is more of a weakness rather than a strength. You can be sure everything will be shoved down your throat with how stretched out their management staff is.

>> No.69596058

>>69595740
Know you know why Niji is so poorly managed. Bottom-tier salaries attract bottom-tier management

>> No.69596095

>>69594492
>3D mention
lol
lmao, even
tempus boys overtook luxiem golden boys on 3D, who the fuck are they lying to with that 3D shit

>> No.69596133

>>69593791
Can't fire someone who wasn't there.

>> No.69596142

>>69595138
2500€ Is low paying here in Sweden.
Our national average is 3400€ (across all industries together)

>> No.69596207

>>69593791
>>69594707
They have interviews with EN managers on their site and according to those it's on average 5 per manager. Also all of the interviews say they're always looking for more managers so clearly there's high turnover.

>> No.69596267

>>69594125
Wasting my time. Disregarding the garbage ass pay, this does nothing for my future

>> No.69596350

>>69596207
The hours are probably awful. I can totally imagine that you get pulled into both Tokyo and Canada hours every day

>> No.69596690

>>69596350
They actually mention that. They want it to be a good work environment for the managers so you're not required to reply during other time zones' hours unless there's some big event going on. But considering all the tasks in the job description there's no way they don't do tons of overtime.

>> No.69596726

>>69594125
Also besides my Japanese being shit (despite not being listed I think you'll just get screwed if you don't speak their language), I do want Nijisanji to succeed, if only for Hololive and any other JP corpo with EN branches to have competition

>> No.69596817

>>69596690
It's a Japanese company. If you actually believe them when they say you won't have to work Japan hours you are out of your mind.

I think the ideal candidate for this is probably an early 20s from western europe (possibly UK) based on required competencies and timezones overlap. Though I think the pay is too shit especially after the currency collapse to entice anyone there. Definitely not good enough for Americans or Canadians

>> No.69596834

>>69596690
It's a Japanese company so tons of unpaid overtime comes with the package.

>> No.69596873

>>69594125
8 dollars an hour is only survivable in SEA or japan, where the cost of living in an apartment in the city is 200 bucks a month tops. so probably a shitload of /vt/ is

>> No.69596928

>>69596690
>not required to reply
With their work culture, the industry, and the fact that you're dealing with livers I'm sure "not required to reply" is synonymous with walking in on your first day and hearing "while it's not required, it's strongly encouraged" from every single person you speak to above you. Bait and switch smells so bad I can smell it from the east coast

>> No.69597194

>>69596267
>Not worth it for a chance to gangrape Elira
Weak

>> No.69597370

>>69596817
They're stupid so they specify Canadians only even though Americans would be in the same time zones and have a lower cost of living (no Canadian who meets the requirements is going to accept their low pay with how expensive everything is now). If they actually understood that a global company can have managers around the world they should be open to someone around where you mentioned but no, it has to be Canada. Maybe it's just so they can pin all the blame for the Canadian clique on the local manager, kek.

>> No.69597772

>>69594400
Interesting, Ike didn't RT or post anything on this,
but he is definitely not shadow banned.

>> No.69597870

>>69594155
Elira and Vox are aware that their accounts are literally radioactive and are not going to post a single thing on either or stream a single time until this starts to blow over

>> No.69597882

>>69597772
The talents that already passed the loyalty test by participating in Elira's video don't need to do it. Only the ones that haven't proved themselves are doing it. You can safely assume that anyone outside the trio who isn't doing this is stealth suspended because they aren't bending the knee

>> No.69597911

>pay not listed
8 dollars an hour.

>> No.69597922

I just hope nothing happens 2 days from now
I have an important client meeting, and also Splatoon 3 DLC comes out soon
I know you nijis are /here/ so please do me a favor okay

>> No.69597950

>>69597911
More like 4-5 once you include all the inevitable overtime

>> No.69597952

>>69595365
It's always been over for rosemi. Her silence says everything

>> No.69598003

>>69597911
it literally is though just open the link and scroll

>> No.69598337

>>69596350
They're rarely active outside JP hours, hence why when talents had to ask about perms they'd have to wait a day for a reply stating their manager definitely want active at that time and also why meetings are at ass o'clock for NA.

>> No.69598363

>>69597370
They wouldn't get shit in the US either, I make more than they're offering doing office grunt work.

>> No.69598417

>>69594400
Vox is more valuable than Elira. Elira was always a bottom bitch who made them no money who forced pomu out of the spotlight (what a great friend) to make it all about her so she could afford her million dollar apartment in downtown Hongcouver.

Vox is an actual credit to the company. And like it or not his character is 'demon lord' so his fanbase are creaming themselves over milord being evil and shit.

>> No.69598481

>>69594341
>>69594254
>>69594199
Burgers pay 120k at university and only the highest paid jobs at google get at least 70k starting.

>> No.69598663

>>69598417
I don't know that. She after all are on almost all merch.

>> No.69598672

>>69597882
Uhhh, hello? Scarle hearted a Kurosanji comment, she engaged with slanderous criticism of the company, an offense that warrants termination as specified in the livers' contracts, where the fuck is her suspension? She just did a birthday countdown stream
>she did it by accident
Why should this matter?

>> No.69598782

>>69598417
Why hasn't Vox streamed or posted anything on socials then?
Given the overwhelming blind support of nijisisters, I don't think he would have any problem going back to his routine.

>> No.69598813

>>69598417
Vox's worth is have been in a constant recession after he was done whoring himself, shit crashed harder than the 1927 depression. His numbers tanked, his stream frequency tanked, superchats, unsold merch, and now after that black suicide stream? Yeah, he's almost worthless, except his few remaining hardline chink fujos that obediently defending Anycolor any time they have a drama.

>> No.69599468

>>69593791
>Elira got fired
>Everyone that hasn’t been fired or graduated will remain there
Enna, Vox, and Millie… are gonna stay there? Aren’t they?

>> No.69599579

>>69599468
Elira was probably fired from management position even if she stays as a liver which also means she's getting booted out of japan too.

>> No.69599592

>>69599468
I doubt Elira is getting fired, she'll just have some of her managerial duties (if true) quietly moved to an actual manager. I doubt Nijisanji wants to official announced that their branch got hijacked.

>> No.69599704

>>69598481
>only the highest paid jobs at google get at least 70k starting
nigga at my first job out of college working as a "developer" for some company you've never heard of I was making 70k starting and I didn't even do any work my first year. I don't even have to look at google to tell you you are wrong. And I had nothing to my name but my degree. No internships, no github portfolio, nothing.

>> No.69599802

>>69594269
>English speaking sponsors
so it's basically a seat-warming job?

>> No.69599831

>>69599592
Their moves are:
1) Shove all the problem livers into the graduation queue, try to memory hole it
2) Terminate the problem livers (option: throw Elira under the bus and let the others stay), "after internal investigation" and another iteration of "we're making things better for our livers" statement
3) Keep all livers, hope people forget about it.

>> No.69599914

>>69599704
Sure you did little brother, and now you make 700k as a tech lead for Tennessee power.

>> No.69600169

>>69594125
I'm not leaving Eastern Europe for a worse relative wage. kek

>> No.69600170

>>69599468
Firign them is recognizing that Niji didn't have the management skills to control their own company. Even is the rrat is true it means that they need to change their management to someone that can do their fucking job.

They need someone with enough authority to disband the clique and make the work enviroment good enough for their talents to stay and they should do fine after that.

This is why I didn't like this rrat from the beggining, it's so EASY to solve by getting ACTUAL managers.

>> No.69600198

>>69593791
Wave 10 will be announced and there’s nothing you can do about it… the black company isn’t going done.

>> No.69600405

>>69600198
If the rumors are true, then they at least had two talents drop out last moment. That's already a bad sign that Wave 10 is going to be Krisis 2.0.

>> No.69600489

>>69600198
*down
Fucking shit.

>> No.69600640

>>69594199
That's not too bad for JP salary. Quite a lot of people make less than that and get by. Japan has been economically stagnant since the 90s, to be fair.

>> No.69600776

>>69599831
With the latest artist debacle and the livers media unity. I swear the manager who let Elira's shenanigans slide is still in power and they make stupid PR decisions like always.

>> No.69600889

>>69594125
It's like asking why you aren't working as some sewage worker and crawl around the shit and piss of New York.

>> No.69601067

>>69600776
The manager (or Elira) will continue doing so until a new one is hired. I don't think NijiJP is smart enough/capable to send someone over to tardwrangle at this point, they're probably already stretched thin.

>> No.69601665

>>69600170
>it's so EASY to solve by getting ACTUAL COMPETENT managers.
ftfy
And competent managers cost money that Niji is too cheap to spend.
Hopefully this shitshow has served as some kind of wake-up call to these cunts, but who knows what’s going on in yacht-boy’s brain.

>> No.69601767

>>69593791
Why the fuck do you need a graduate degree to coordinate DMs? Nigga a fucking 14 year old child could do this shit. Imagine spending the best years of your life going into debt to graduate and then work for pennies for kurosanji. I think I'd fucking kill myself no wonder nothing ever gets done right nobody gives a fuck to even try.

>> No.69601937

>>69601067
There's no way that Anycolor hasn't sent at least one person from the JP division to keep an eye on NijiEN at this rate. Even if they need to use DeepL to translate and get a rough idea of what is going on, it's probably safer than letting EN doing something even dumber that will cost Anycolor millions in lost stock profits.

>> No.69602064

>>69594155
shes done

>> No.69603326

>>69593791
how many bucks per hour again?

>> No.69603594

>>69601937
>There's no way that Anycolor hasn't sent at least one person from the JP division to keep an eye on NijiEN at this rate
They did. This personal is currently receiving a full situation update translated by Elira.

>> No.69605242

>>69603594
oof.

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