/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Given the opportunity, as a dickhaver, would you debut as a male vtuber in Holopro or nijisanji?

[Anonymous No.]

Holopro, they seem pretty chill even if I don't even watch them. Also Cover is just a better company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Holopro
anyone joining niji at this point deserves everything that happens to them

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Holo, why the fuck would I pick Niji? Yeah, it would probably be smaller, but all those potentially career ending yabs? No thanks.
Holo management's worst was being shit and constraining Magni and Vesper too much, at which point both left without much chaos. Niji on the other hand...

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207604
Like even if the yab didn't include me I would still be in the same company and receive part of the fallout, there's no reason to pick niji when holo is the safer and, lets admit it, chiller bet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Holopro easy, who knows how long the EN branch of Niji will last. Only problem as a Holostar, you'll basically be treated like a black sheep by a lot of the company talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Stars, i'll wreak such a havoc that they'll have to can the whole Holostar branch
Then i'll call myself the homoslayer

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Being a holostar seems like a comfy job. Keep your head down, yagoo automatically loves you and management sucks your dick because of it, collect your pay and just do what you gotta do when they ask. No drama to speak of as of right now because the two dudes that did bring drama are gone, thank god. I'd do it, honestly. Fuck niji, though. The dudes there are faggier than the ones in homoEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>groomer Altare as a colleague
>groomer Vox as a colleague
I would kill myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207843
Does it really matter? Like even if I am not a unicorn I understand what the gig for many if the girls is, already got the other Stars to collab with anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
I dunno, neither of them seem too down with a tranny talking about their massive futa cock. Don't think I'd fit in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207975
What you do once Yagoo leaves though? Man is getting old

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Holostars. Shaky start but they do well enough for a smaller branch, management seems finally good, seems like the guys are pretty tight behind the scenes and try to actively include each other. Even with the shadow of a thousand unicorns ready to maul you if you even glance at a girl, I'm still getting a 3D, support on projects, and a salary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
I may be stupid, but I'm mentally handicapped enough to pick Niji over Holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208196
Goldbullet got you covered

[Anonymous No.]

Right now? Niji. Any other time it'd be Holo in a heartbeat... but right now it's free real-estate.

[Anonymous No.]

stars easily, i plan to audition whenever i get a few months of streaming down

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>>69208196
Flayon would be a little too down to talk about that, don't underestimate him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208196
You are supposed to play a character

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207975
Yeah exactly, does sound mega comfy. As long as you don't try to collab with the girls and don't cause any other type of drama, sounds like a sweet gig.

[Anonymous No.]

Niji just to shitpost during my debut yab as hard as possible and get instantly fired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208200
I will be honest, I don't think vtubing, at least in its current form, will outlast Yagoo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207843
Not like the majority of NijiEN heck, NijiJP will care about you, and knowing theres a clique and bullying involved? And it's fucking bitches and fags like Vox that'll do it? Fuck no

Also the slots were wasted on Vesper and Magni

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>>69208355
Unironically this, now is probably a great time for people to audition because the biggest high-number vtubers and more generally content creators cuz niji regularly hires fleshtubers aren't gonna touch niji with a ten foot pole, so assuming you're otherwise modestly entertaining you stand a good chance
Figure just put up with the bullshit for a year, there you go you now have Vtuber Agency Experience(TM) on your resume, then walk away

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Which time period? Luxiem? Noct? Now?

[Anonymous No.]

the thing that really sucks about corpo vtubers is that your gimmick is given to you, imagine getting some retarded character design or lore you cant even think of jokes or bits for

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisanji JP

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208196
Would you rather gaybait with Sexy Flay and Ruze or Uki?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Holopro. I have actual aspergers and do programming, so I can fill the niche Vesper left behind. My tastes in games include weapons grade autism (Exapunks, Opus Magnum, Infinifactory), and I'm analytical enough to play games I haven't before like Kenshi. I also like action stuff, and can give good live commentary, so it wouldn't all be that. Wouldn't mind being able to play around with the assets, do shit like wear cosplay in a handcam, for kayfabe.
Honestly I'd have auditioned for StarsEN by now if I hadn't shredded my lungs to the point where I've a persistent cough. I could just mute myself for games, but I can't exactly sing and dance in 3D with the guys if I keep having to cough

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
I'd go indie and collab with twitch thots, males seem to excel in that market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
I'd rather be a successful indie than in either tbqh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208645
A FUCKING BANDAGE

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208502
Does shitposting lead to you getting sued? Even asinine stuff like Zaion and Selen did got that much vitriol from them, how much more for a retard like you who will actively do it. I bet they'll doxx your ass here then terminate you and call you a pedo rapist

[Anonymous No.]

Why care about other hologirls when you have cute jp managers behind the scenes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208841
>nijiEN naming their vtubers like

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208697
Flay cause he at least tries to make his avatar look like a girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207843
Still better working condition and you wouldn't need to worry about them coming after with a hitpiece when you left

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
2022 and before NijiEN would have been a no-brainer but at this point Homostars is more secure and the numbers aren't that different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208645
Some people design the character themselves. I know a few JP that did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208766
you gotta go for a sexy frail transient consumptive nobleman gimmick duh

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208896
This. Like bruh there are a lot of cute girl out there, why go after your co worker

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
nah I'm not fun to be around

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208896
This. I wanna practice my JP reps anyway. That one staff with the frilly thigh highs and skirt at 2nd fest I think it was? Dick was diamonds. Would make her squeak like a dog toy for hours

[Anonymous No.]

Hol' up... has anyone done a UB chuuba? Randon doesn't count, i mean a real UB
Because I might actually debut as an indie soon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208915
I would use JP naming order and be Dustice Willie

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>>69208896
>cute JP managers
You will get paired with a craziest 50+ year old Japanese man and you will like it! (But seriously StarsEN's management seems all around chill as hell, Axel in particular has had some fun stories about drinking his ass off with the male managers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r1f9hTiJLs))

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>>69208766
Just apply and ask if you could skinwalk Vesper

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>>69208947
They are different. If you account merch profits and sponsorships, assuming you even get one in Niji if Elira sees you as a clique member, let's be honest, post-Iluna, you earn more and get more viewers than NijiEN bar Luxiem. Also 3D? And cute female managers I can order around and not Elira puppetering me? Yes please!

[Anonymous No.]

Holostars, easy. I get actual management and a genuinely friendly atmosphere, and I don't even have to numbermonkey. I just keep outta main branch business and enjoy the cushy gig with the fellas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
holo
niji you'd have to tongue elira's cornhole to get anything done

[Anonymous No.]

>>69209648
In Holo you get the managers tongue you instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
I'd rather debut with the alban model then the ragus model for sure. How appealing your model is matters 50x more than the company

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208516
Vesper and Magni were great choices, management just didn't know what the fuck to do with them and mismanaged their talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208866
Apply with a fake identity and nord vpn. Sure you wont get paid but you werent getting paid anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69209286
Are you also gay ? Mori and Kronii only collab with you if you are

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
did you not notice the mass exodus of Chinese leftover fujos? this hasn't been a question for awhile

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208697
Rio because I'm not gay and speak Japanese. Would be down to nerd out over VNs with Flay though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69209792
Mismanaged how? They pussied out because muh do your idol reps or because they had inflated egos and wanted the same deal or an increase in whatever they have as some holos despite them only being 6 months in

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Nijisanji because I don't want to ruin Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
The funny thing is that, I'm sure there's NIJI EN male members that declined Holo for NIJI in the most recent waves thinking they took the right choice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69210062
You can stay your lane like Roberu and Shinri, you don't need to suffer especially as a holofan

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
holopro for sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>69209792
>management just didn't know what the fuck to do with them
ehhhhhh no. Magni just got burnt out/his own self-admitted quitter mentality kicked in, and Vesper was pretty much incompatible with being under a corpo with the added anxiety of having to actually do the idol part coming up REAL fast, since Axel said their 3D debuts where actually supposed to be much earlier.
Watch the last few months of Magni content and it's very obvious he's just phoning it in. Vesper was really only sticking around because his bestie was there to console him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69209830
Why would I want to collab with them? I fucking hate party games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
holo because hakka and flay's models makes me hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>69210062
Yes, you would ruin it if (you) got in

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Nijisanji so I can transition to being a dramatuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207843
>you'll basically be treated like a black sheep

And rightfully so. Otherwise Hololive turns into a dumpster fire like Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69210133
I wonder how Iluna to Claude feels right now with Stars surpassing them while being loved by Yagoo, ID girls, Bae

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207604
Holo management's worst was attempted rape

[Anonymous No.]

If you're aiming to enter the EN branches of either company, Holostars is a better choice, given how much NijiEN is shitting itself
>get a base salary on top of what you get from SC, merch, etc
>management that actually does its job
>3D debut is pretty much guaranteed, a matter of time
>HoloPro brand power is much stronger than Niji's brand power despite the Holostars debuff
>Not a lot of Hololive collab chances, but this also means you are free to network around
>Small but dedicated group of fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>69210147
I don't know if I can resist the ID girls if they gave me pity and offered a collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
*Sigh*
How is that even a question?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
No self-respecting male would go corpo. Make a name for yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
I would rather have a hundred holostars viewers than a thousand of Nijisanji's

[Anonymous No.]

>>69210603
Also
>you can do another gig at the side be it fleshstreamer, Voice acting or whatever

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
i'm a broke middle-aged guy, I'm pretty sure holopro is the only thing that'd accept me...

[Anonymous No.]

>>69210490
I meant Stars EN lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Last year I would have said Niji, but now? Fuck no. Being a Holoman sounds like a pretty solid gig as long as you stay in your lane and don’t try to collab/compete with the women. Beats digging ditches, why not

[Anonymous No.]

>>69210771
Now hold up a minute, wait till niji releases their next pr statement. Might be some holes to fill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69210662
ID girls are okay though? They didn't brand themselves like JP and EN, they're tied to the hip with holostars from the very beginning, so go enjoy and cuck Axel with Zeta

[Anonymous No.]

>>69210603
Damn, you are making me want to apply to Stars again...

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Holopro easily, hologirls pay my bills, I just have to be on stream and stuff, great isn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Are there no other respectable dickhaver agencies for vtubers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208766
Yea, it’d be especially rough since you’d need to also travel to Japan for important meetings and stuff, which was what fucked Vesper over since his medication isn’t allowed in Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>69210751
Shit, that too. The talents can participate in virtually any voice acting or videogame/movie/anime related gig you want as long as it falls within the boundaries of being able to pull it off as a vtuber. Hella incentive just with that alone

[Anonymous No.]

>>69210929
If a flip dramabaiter like Jutard can get in, anyone can.

[Anonymous No.]

I'd go Holo and do my own thing.
The stars might not get as many viewers, and I'd be called a homostar all the time, but it would be so much better than whatever the fuck is going on with Nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>69210379
>homos are why Niji went to shit!
>meanwhile, the people behind Niji's downfall were all female talents

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
>be a holostar
>never have to go to concerts cause youre too small for that, probably still have to sing tho
>at best have to be a bit of a manwhore if you want extra views, but not required
>maybe have to deal with annoying japanese management shit sometimes (to be expected in either)
>get the power of cover corp at your back
>dont have to deal with nijisanjis bullshit
>get actually good rates, just like the hololive girls
the only downside is you probably wont be able to collab with your oshi, but joining a corpo just to see your oshi is a fucking stupid plan ESPECIALLY if youre the opposite gender.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69210997
Mythic but you have to Already be successful. Vshojo is even more impossible, you'd have to go through Niji first then retire to get to Vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>69210997
Realistically, no. The only other agencies of note are girls-only.

[Anonymous No.]

Neither, I'd become a babaniku with a loli model

[Anonymous No.]

>>69210997
Pester Phase and Idol about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>69211219
Does anyone else get super mad that Kuro is Vshojo when they could have had him start a Vshonen branch? I guess we will never get popular male vtubers that are not done in a shojo art style.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69211020
I have auditioned a few times now for stars, don't hold much hope that i'll make it in but maybe one day...
One thing that sort of makes me nervous is the JP trips, I work a trade job and can't really offload anything to remote work and I'm not sure I'd be able to get more than a week off or so, and i really doubt i'd have enough vtuber income to quit my job

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>>69207394
Niji, then pretend to be a nice guy for around 2 years while saving every interview/audition/meeting/conversation and posting it here at the end. They'd probably kill me or throw me in jail, but it would be fun until then.

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>>69211494
They can still re-brand Kuro. Maybe when Kyo and the shitposter boyfriend of Nyanners joins because it's retarded to make a Vshounen with just him in it, just look at what happened to Vshojo JP

[Anonymous No.]

All that really matters is you having a nice voice and knowing how to play up a kayfabe occasionally.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to have sex!

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208645
Do you guys think Kiara cried when she saw her lore

[Anonymous No.]

>>69211504
what's your upkeep like? i would totally move back in with parents and give up my trades job. been at it for 17 years and i'm just tired of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69211172
>>never have to go to concerts cause you're too small for that,
Holostars First and Second Act ring a bell? Third Act will probably be announced as soon as all of Tempus get their 3D since having EN + JP sing at a concert together is a big goal for the Stars branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69212154
Soda will never join, he is more contrarian than /vt/ will ever be.

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>>69212350
the only thing that really sucked was the random tokusatsu/mech shit tacked on, fast food characters are a tried and true versatile archetype

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
I would rather you kill yourself than become a Vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>69212350
What even was her lore when she debuted? I can't even remember if the fast food shit was already in from the start.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69212350
She was crying alone in a dark room right before they gave her anything, so I doubt it in the extreme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69212787
She's some sort of kamen rider thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69212787
She did have the fast food thing since the start (hence the stupid chef hat)

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
is it really a choice?
>picrel
>bang kobo half to death
>on companies time
>on companies dime

[Anonymous No.]

>>69210997
vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>69213146
Yeah, i just realized that, what a weird backstory lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208697
uki is just ick lmao
props to you anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>69212154
>retarded to make Vshounen with just him in it
Just as retarded as being a guy in bi(vi)shojou

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
HoloPro so I can flirt will all my lovely brown skinned hijab wearing HoloIDs

[Anonymous No.]

Niji so I can fuck the girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Nijisanji
I'd have die-hard fujos defending me while I cuck them at the niji offpako parties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
No because I have some self respect. Also I care about the industry and more male vtubers is bad for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207989
>groomer altare

What the fuck are you talking about, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69213805
Altare grooms young talents so they can reach their full potential

[Anonymous No.]

Holopro/cover
Pros
+competent staff with English speaking management
+bigger payout
Cons
-bigger unicorn schizos, even if you never mention the girls, simply having a hololive oshi with tons of merch will get you labeled a traitor
-although less schizo your fans typically Supa less

Niji pros
+big female audience
+management let's you sexually assault female coworkers as long as you're bigger than them in numbers, aka scarlet
Cons
-Black company
-your coworkers are retarded
-2%
-crazy fans with Sanrio profile pics

I think going indie is better but holostars is the least worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>69209119
Only thing that comes to mind is MerryDawg's ub form

[Anonymous No.]

>>69213465
I fully believe her papa just did it for the reference

[Anonymous No.]

>>69213805
>pedo voice
>supports "the cause"
All the proof I need to stay away from that creep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208645
Some talents end up as something entirely different than what they started with anyways, just look at debut rewatch cringe, if you're serious just learn to get along with your audience after the first impression and have some inside jokes going

[Anonymous No.]

>>69214213
StarsEN has a few pedo groomers in it

[Anonymous No.]

>>69209213
Given what I know about asian salarymen, afterhours are all about drinking and whoring so I’d be good with that

[Anonymous No.]

>>69214213
Anon, I think you forgot the definition of “proof”

[Anonymous No.]

>>69213508
But the fanfare will be there when then launch It

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>>69212350
Doubt it. She's been chasing this dream since she was like 14, probably would have accepted playing a dude if it was the only option.

>>69212787
If I'm not mistaken, she's supposed to be a phoenix who gets tired of fighting and decides to become a streamer in hopes of funding the fast food restaurant of her dreams.

I always found the "i decided to become a streamer to fund my dream of working a 9-5 customer service job" lore to be incredibly dumb. I think okayu and korone have similar lores

[Anonymous No.]

>>69214600
Most lores are iffy but they are just there for the streamer to use as a start. You can significantly change it over time.

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>>69212350
No, she said it was weird and all over the place but you have to remember she got the golden ticket, could collab with her oshi and was genuinely grateful because the irl idol thing was dead in the water because shut downs. She was was ready to completely call it quits

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Seriously? As much as this place makes fun of them. Holopro easy.
Stop with the expectations that you'll have high CCV and be able to talk to the Hololive girls and done, you're living comfortably.
Yes you have obligations, but seriously, it's not much compared to actual jobs out there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Holopro. I don't wanna get involved with Kurosanji and I especially don't want to deal with power tripping coworkers. I've had enough dealing with them in my workplace already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69214863
It's anything from part time to full time job with relatively good pay that includes traveling frequently to weeb land.

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>>69214863
>Stop with the expectations that you'll have be able to talk to the Hololive girls and done
It astounds me people STILL don't grasp this. If you're joining an agency to collab with the talents you're delusional, cus even if there are no rules against it p much everyone but maybe ollie (big maybe) will actively avoid you BECAUSE you're a holostar
You'd probably actually have a higher chance of incidentally working with your oshi if you get into a different agency or stay indie imo

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208200
Do you guys think Yagoo is the only staff member who likes Holostars? lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>69209997
reading VNs with Flayon on stream...

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Holostars, to collab with my oshi.
>Retar-
My oshi is the clown. I'll just wait until his tummy hort gets better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69215286
Hence why everyone who says Holostars joined to talk to the girls is retarded
Because all this has been obvious since the fucking start kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>69214863
I mean you still get to collab with cuties from holoID like kobo etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Save Alban, blue homo

[Anonymous No.]

>>69215607
kobo only collabs with altare because he's an asian twink and relatively 'unthreatening'

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
I'd rather go Indie but if I had to choose one... I guess Holo. I just wouldn't want to do any of the Idol BS though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208200
Suck her dick instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>69210997
No. Honestly it would be easier to be half fleshtuber, half VTuber and if the planets align and you have success, dive right into Mythic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Holostars. For one, I wouldnt want the reputation of nijisanji. But I would also show that males shouldnt attempt to leech off of women.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Neither.
I don't want to be an idol and I don't want chink yumes in my fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Niji, easy choice. First, they already have male vtuber dickriders, if you fujo bait decent enough you're set. Second, you can fuck the female talents and their stupid fuck fanbase will cheer you on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
holostars pros
>guaranteed money
>will get 3D eventually
>paid to go to japan
holostars cons
>im not flayon or bettel so i cant fuck that schizophrenic girl who posts gore on here
nijisanji pros
>paid to go to japan
>dont have to sing
nijisanji cons
>stalked to death by chinese women
>money

[Anonymous No.]

>>69210997
Avallum/First Stage is doing well. Could be the phase of male small corpos in time.

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>>69212350
I think the only ones who secretly didn't complain about their lore were Mori, Ina and Gura.
Calli likes edgy shit like death but with a cute side (anime girl death), and she was more worried about her minimal wage apartment not letting her have a proper setup back then thus why she broke down for a bit in the monetization stream after she realized she would be able to afford a better place later.
Gura, as always, just rolls with what she has. Sometimes she even forgot she was a Shark character because she's just used to just being the Loli character, so much that she constantly repeated shark in her beginning stages to not forget what she was supposed to take from, now she kind of, acquired what she needs from the shark part while not letting it be completely her character 24/7.
Ina likely didn't give a fuck lol. She knew from the get go what her thing was going to be as the artsy one.
Ame probably after she realized no one believed she was British because fake AF accent and just said screw it, time traveller time it is as people kept pestering her about that because of her clock seemingly being important, it wasn't but she built upon it because being fake British wasn't going to cut it.
Kiara, she really had a hard time trying first to be full on restaurant owner lore, then switched to Idol full-on and now she's all in on being happy. And that last one involves doing stuff. It helped her mood that EN has been doing more and more Idol stuff which is her dream come true.

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>>69207394
Why not just be an indie at this point? If I streamed myself drawing maps and writing lore for an RPG splatbook I'm sure it'd find a niche and I'd get to keep 70% of the superchat revenue/bits payout.

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>>69207975
Yeah, it does. You get to hang out with a bunch of bros and have a nice decently sized audience you can chill with.
As long as you avoid the girls, other than bae/mori, you'll be free from any autism or controversy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69216707
who

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
I will join holostars and destroy it from within

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207975
>two dudes that did bring drama are gone
Lets be real those two dude's "drama" is nothing compared to whatever nijis gets up to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Homostar, easy. I would keep my oshi at arms length, do Hololive event watchalongs with the boys, and get a 3D to fuck around with once in a while. And no Elira clique. Sounds pretty comfy.

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>>69216783
3D. Access to 3D is the best motivator. I think you shouldn't be a holostar if your dream isn't already to be a small scale anime Michael Jackson or anime Andrew Lloyd Webber. I would shoot for it if I wasn't already up to my neck in software dev. Can't dance for nuts but singing and music composition is fine.

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>>69207394
This board will make you believe being a Holostar is miserable because muh numbers but every time these guys perform they look like they're having the time of their lives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV8G1lLS4Vo&t=683

[Anonymous No.]

>>69216422
nijisanji cons
>got to fuck the organ, the female fanbase without any repercussion
>luca still exist.
Ftfy

[Anonymous No.]

>holostar is good now

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
I will join holo and fuck pekora with my big monkey cock

[Anonymous No.]

>>69219824
>now

[Anonymous No.]

>>69209743
Considering how much money Vesper made during his run with that goofy Dorito chin model...not really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69208697
Flay and Aster

[Anonymous No.]

>>69207394
Holostar
At least i can groom indies and have safe work environment

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>>69208697
Flay. He's cute and at least has good taste in games.

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>>69216783
>Fuma is legit friends with Honeyworks people
>Oga has legit connection to Seiyuu world
>If Roberu liked you enough, he'll bring you into one of his collab
Being a Holostars is good if you can speak japanese

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>>69207394
neither

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>>69215968
I want to be her husband

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>>69207394
Holopro. You could offer me peak-vox money and I wouldn't touch the den of snakes that is nijien. and I say that as someone below the poverty line. I'd rather remain poor and retain my sanity.

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>>69220329
If you don't speak JP you can kiss joining any of the major agencies goodbye. Unless you're literally a concert-level singer with covers and originals routinely getting 100k+ views.
Better get on those reps either way. You ain't becoming a holostar or even a nijifag as a generic dudebro who only speaks English playing video games

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>>69208200
Yagoo is in his 50s, JP CEOs go until they die.

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>>69219127
I think it's mostly /#/, because "muh unicorn board" and "muh invisible war"
And /hlgg/ just straight up ban your ass

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>>69220887
Literally no one in StarsEN fits your description kek. Out of 12 guys hired only ONE speaks Japanese.

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Holo because I identify as a pretty princess [male].

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>>69220887
Have you actually seen the EN Stars?

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>>69207394
Cover, by a lot.

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>>69216422
>Nijisanji
>paid to go to japan

Anon... the talents said they have to pay the travel costs themselves

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>>69210059
Vesper wasn't cut out to be an idol, they really should have just let him be the Ame of Stars. Magni though absolutely knew his worth and negotiated his contract correctly. His numbers as an indie prior to Stars speak for themselves. If they didn't want to give him a better deal why should he focus so much of his efforts into earning them money instead of building his own brand?

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>>69213146
It's not a chef hat, though. It's a turkey frill.

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>>69222666
You're a turkey frill

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>>69217000
Literally the only other EN male-focused group in a corpo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WXRrpnYJwA&ab_channel=FIRSTSTAGEPRODUCTIONEN

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>>69222900
Oh shit I remember these guys, aren't they all JP girls and they went from that to this all-male EN startup? It was such a weird fucking progression of their roster that I couldn't help but take note

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>>69207394
Holo pro, easily
I just wanna hang out with Shinji, he's the most down to earth tuber I've ever watched
Other dudes seem fine too, they don't seem too bad but I'd entrust this guy with my life

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>>69223562
You don't even know how to spell his name...

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>>69208645
>corpo vtubers is that your gimmick is given to you, imagine getting some retarded character design or lore you cant even think of jokes or bits for
then you just ignore and do your own fucking thing? the bara faggot isn't a cool samurai ronin and is making himself a monster fucker.

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>>69223252
Seems to have paid off. Avallum does better than their JP talents by quite a bit. It makes sense, the small corpo EN female scene is pretty crowded while the small corpo male scene literally didn't exist before January (no, I'm not counting Tsunderia or Prism's sole male).

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>>69223870
God I hate autocorrect and I hate that I didn't notice it
Granted, it's 8 am over here and I haven't slept yet but man
Sorry Shinri

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>>69223252
No, they had JP males as well. They just didn't have an all-male gen until Avallum.

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>>69207394
Neither i would just be a regular real life streamer i dont want to be a faggy ikemen anime boy who has to put up with female brain insanity and angry male unicorns 24/7 the job does not pay enough for that i also do not want to be subject to JP game perms autism

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>>69222579
Ame at least tries to be an idol and wants to be one, with all her karaoke reps and such. Vesper got panic attack on a thought about singing. Plus if he can't figure out how to get permission to bring his meds to JP, he can't do his business there effectively. He's an autist, and I say that lovingly as a vestie/randonite.

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>>69223878
I dunno, a samurai ronin that goes around fucking monsters seems pretty cool

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>>69222328
Dingo get to interact with HSKW, his favourite vtuber

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>>69207394
I used to think being a male vtuber in Niji would be good, but after the whole shitshow in EN I backed out.
If you want to have a good time, all I can tell you is that Holostars starts out small, you won't have the same energy as HQ did when they first debuted but it's a start regardless.. and if you are going to apply please be a fucking Magni. Holy fuck the guy was quick witted and the branch lacks that.

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>we love vesper now

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>>69208277
Elaborate

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>>69211131
If women are the problem then why is holo not burning like niji despite being all female? Fucking retard beggar

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>>69225458
>Holy fuck the guy was quick witted and the branch lacks that.
Bettel.

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I honestly think the recent Holostars have been great. Niji gets more views still, but NijiEN seems fucked now.

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>>69213805
It's a known fact that Altare grooms his ojisan managers.
>>69212463
Even with Tempus 3D I still doubt that they're going to get a live venue concert. Maybe an online only concert could work.

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>>69225820
maybe
just maybe
it’s not a issue of men and women

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>>69226989
That's crazy talk, now go eat your boydinner anon

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>>69226698
Most likely they'll get an online concerts to gauge popularity first.
But they'll definitely share a stage with StarsJP.

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>>69224636
NTA, yeah Vesper did not even try. If I am in his shoes, I am going to pull off a fucking Freddie Mercury. Sure he's a fag, but he definitely knew how to entertain.
Even if my singing might be SOVL, even if I dance like I have two left feet, at least I will try giving it my fucking all and deliver a memorable performance, and I am walking off that stage with my head up.

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>>69214213
So you're jealous of his voice, got it.

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>>69207394
Nijisanji, as my first step I'd DM Millie and Enna, who crave BWC
https://streamable.com/qj593c

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>>69207394
Niji has more paypigs. There's a reason holostars isn't popular. Their fanbase is mostly men and men don't give money to male vtubers save for a handful of fags. They don't buy merch either. And the few women in their fanbase gatekeep too much. I want rich OLs that would sell out a sponsored product before I even do the shill stream, not have to pander to other dudes who just spam "AYO" at any mildly lewd joke I might make. Everyone's saying Holostars because of the current drama but let's be more realistic. You're going to want money. And it's easier to make that money with a fanbase willing to give you money for doing the easiest things imaginable.

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>>69207394
I would debut in Holopro to fuck my oshi
Yes like all other male vtubers I would be a sexpest

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Imagine being Vesper, he must be glad he was in Holo. If he was in Niji, he might actually sudoku with how they treat talents termination

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>>69207394
Before everything I'd say Niji but now Homostarrings looking pretty good

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>>69229637
if he was in niji and had an exit like doki he'd be set for life as an indie instead of just skirting the line of being a full-time chuuba

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>>69207394
I'd choose niji, but mostly because I'm an awful singer and dancer. And then hide in my corner like hex or scarle and not associate with anyone.
I'd be much more afraid of my own fans too. God poor alban just wants to play games with his funny Korean friend cause his own branch hates him and it made his fans fucking revolt.

Also just bring a nijiman makes you a 4view so that isn't bad.

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>>69229637
I think hed actually be a better fit in niji, he chickened out over bigger time commitments in Japan and idol shit. Both of which niji doesn't have.

Granted he doesn't have a lot of sex appeal either so maybe niji sisters would hate him?

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>>69214213
He has a speech impediment…

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>>69210490
>nearly got raped twice.
She is both too nice and too sexy for her own good.

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>>69229520
>fanbase is mostly men
Wasn’t this debunked a while ago with YT stats? I guess some talents have bigger male audiences like Vesper and maybe Bettel, but I thought the fanbase at large is mostly female.

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>>69207394
>Holopro or nijisanji?
BOTH

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>>69233151
Imagine leading a double life as a vtuber on two agencies.

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>>69207394
Even before any major NijiEN yabs, Holopro, because I want to sing and dance, and acting as a fictional character is something I always wanted.

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>>69214213
>Because i said so.
sure thing Anon.

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I'd rather be a male flesh streamer than be a creepy pest so neither of the two

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>>69235945
>male flesh
will always be more disgusting than being 2d

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https://rentry.org/nijidoki
https://rentry.org/nijidoki2

Maybe Nijisanji isn't that bad?

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>>69237205
The intent of these predators is far uglier than what any random normalfag could ever hope to look like

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But does one ever truly have a choice?
One can only match, move by move, the machinations of sisters - and thus defy the tyrannous stars.

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>>69214213
the fuck is a pedo voice to begin with

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>>69207394
Holopro because I hate females, and I can do the lonely wolf there, if you join niji you HAVE to collab with other people or your career is over

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>>69238376
any voice i don't like obviously

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>>69225820
hologirls don't go around having more power than being a talent

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>>69207394
Always holo

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>>69235945
So you are saying that just because you are a vtuber you will become a sex pest? Maybe you can just not be one? Just mind your own business

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>>69231619
No idea about current data but last I saw them they had a pretty balanced audience and the ones that had a sex majority had at most a 70-30 split

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>>69231619
Most besides a few exceptions mentioned having a 60-40 or 50-50 Female to male ratio

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>>69222716
Rude.

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>>69242939
Very true, this is why "male vtubers" shouldn't exist.

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>>69207394
Phase connect