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Looks like Holostars will be getting Niji-style standardized merch from now on. The gravy train is over.
Don't be surprised if we see this change coming to the girls soon too. Looks like investors aren't happy with the IPO and want to trim the fat.

From Rikka's stream:
>birthday goods will be the same from now on for the members
>it's not clear if it's permanent but it's confirmed for birthdays this April
>Rikka doesn't regard it as a negative thing
>he asks for support in form of membership subscriptions and channel subscriptions
>his birthday will be the first one affected
>he was thinking about putting out a ring or another accessory to balance out his anniversary goods before the change
>he thinks the design and illustration for the goods turned out well anyways and asks for support
>they are allowed to release extra goods for reaching channel subscription benchmarks
>300k subs would be the next benchmark for Rikka
>goods are now once a year probably so there will be no goods in october (Rikka's anniversary month) as of now
>his goods this year will release on the 16th (his birthday celebration)
>he wanted to talk about it because he didn't want viewers to be shocked when it becomes apparent so he asked for an okay to talk about this
>anniversary celebrations itself will not disappear but it's up to the talent to celebrate it or not
>as of now Rikka wants to celebrate his upcoming anniversary but he will think about his concrete plans after his birthday
>Temma's birthday will be the next one affected
>anniversary streams are held because the talent wants to do so, after all there are talents that don't celebrate them, it has always been like that
>everyone's birthdates are different so the situation might be different for talents who were born in a different month

>> No.46580312

>>46580161
Where's your source? Lemme guess?your Dad works at Nintendo lol

>> No.46580344

>>46580161
>Source: my ass

>> No.46580390

>>46580312
>>46580344
Source is Rikka's stream, dumbo. Here's the discussion in the /stars/ thread if you don't believe me
>>46569363

>> No.46581026

>>46580161
I thought talents funded their own merch and therefore were on the hook for costs incurred and potential losses, it's this not the case for anniversary and birthday merch?

>> No.46581482

>>46580390
Doesn't count

>> No.46581522

>>46581026
The cost for merch in Hololive is split between the company and the talent. I guess the company is just going to cover a smaller split.

>> No.46581603

EN is next. no more free rides for the shark.

>> No.46581725
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>>46581603
Oh no, she'll be...forced to play video games for once. I hope she can take it.

>> No.46581808

>>46581603
>free ride
Gura and the other girls' merch are very profitable, Cover is probably losing money making merch fpr the homos

>> No.46581817

>>46581522
Odd that they're restricting the merch of the holostars, who are known to punch above their weight with merch sales. It seems that investors are more concerned with making Google money with their emphasis on memberships and superchats. Not a good sign going forward I think.

>> No.46581933

>>46580161
>Cover becoming more obsessed with pleasing shareholders is making them slowly lose all their soul and is making them care less about their fans
wow who could've seen that coming?

>> No.46581957

>>46581933
Cover lost its soul when they debuted ShilloX.

>> No.46581989

>>46580312
>>46580344
https://youtu.be/19E5lp5dch0?t=3554
Check the liveTL or comments

>> No.46582032

not hololive i dont care

>> No.46582035

Well, it was good while it lasted, we had a good run. I'll just go back to anime.

>> No.46582133

>>46581933
This is the actual nijification of hololive

>> No.46582137
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46582137

I couldn't care less about the Stars and I firmly believe both homobeggars and unicorn should kill themselves. I'm just worried that this situation could affect other holos like Iofi who streams in any language but in English and has the lowest CCV out of ID.

Fuck, I'd wish there was another way for Cover to avoid going public, but I guess it's too late for that now...

>> No.46582188

>>46580161
This must be the sad news that Astel and Ollie were talking about in January. Cover seems to be heavily pushing subscriber milestones if this limits how often holostars can release custom merch.

>> No.46582272

>>46581957
>Turns out holoX is one of their most profitable gens
the only ones that i see complaining about holoX nowdays are counsilfags, are you one?

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46582357

>>46580161
Finally God, asphyxiate these useless fucks until they graduate. good riddance.

>> No.46582429

>>46582357
>Says this
>When there's a high chance it spreads to the girls next
Rumao, both you and the homos are in this together now.

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46582453

>>46582357
>He doesn't think the runt girls are next

>> No.46582477

>>46582357
based, I'll help you pray.

>> No.46582559

>>46582137
ID is next, enjoy the ride.

>> No.46582618

VShojo licking their lips right now.

>> No.46582616

>>46582137
It's going to affect literally everyone in the company, anyone laughing at the homos rn is missing the point desu

>> No.46582677

>>46582137
>and has the lowest CCV out of ID.
That's Reine

>> No.46582703

>>46582618
I would sooner quit watching Vtubers all together before I willingly watch a single Vshojo stream.

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>>46580161
Who could have foreseen this?

>> No.46582804

GURA IS NEXT HER LAZY ASS WIL LEAVE THE MOMENT SHE HAS TO DO MORE

>> No.46582850

>>46581808
Stars merch is literally why the branch is profitable in the first place, anon, it sells damn well

>> No.46582931

I don't even care about merch myself, but Cover are shooting themselves in the foot by doing this kind of retarded shit while growing. If vtubing as a whole was beginning to flop and they needed to cut some corners, I'm sure everyone would understand, but imagine offering less to your talents while demanding more than ever and making more money than ever before.

>> No.46582944

>>46582357
Everyone's about to get their merch homogenized to generic trash, anon. Investors will it.

>> No.46582982

>>46582931
>Cover shooting themselves in the foot
Aka what they have always done

>> No.46582987

>>46582677
I did my reps and lmao, she wouldn't care less if she became a 1 view.
Pretty sure there's a homo in uproar on a similar situation as her.

>> No.46583034

Did any of the JP girls talk about something like this? Asking a friend.

>> No.46583039

>>46582357
I hope you don't like Choco, Mel, or any of the ID girls anon. You may be a unitroon but the investors aren't and they will short the low earning girls too.

>> No.46583106

>>46581957
This. What a fucking waste of a gen.
>>46582357
It's literally going to happen to Flare and Kanata this month, retard.

>> No.46583118

>>46582982
I guess, but it always ended up working out for them. I can't see the good side here.

>> No.46583122

goomba will leave the exact moment that she can't do things the way she wants to do them anymore. her roommate is popular enough that there is no reason for he not to do it.

>> No.46583160

>>46582618
Which Holos are gonna join them? Early bets say Kanata and Marine.

>> No.46583178

>>46582677
Ollie's HoloFES performance pulled her out of the grave? Good for her.

>> No.46583237

>>46582931
>Cover are shooting themselves in the foot
They've always been doing this.
>>46583118
Hololive's success wasn't spectacular anyways. VShojo is the only true fan-first corpo left merchwise.

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>no mention of members who matter
oh so its nothing then lmao

>> No.46583289

>>46582357
Aki is next.

>> No.46583323

>>46583034
probably not, but I don't think you should worry
the ID girls have had made-to-order since the beginning, and I'm pretty sure even the lowest of the holos like Aki and Mel still sell a decent amount of merch compared to Stars

>> No.46583336

>>46583237
>fan-first
I guess that’s true, too bad it’s full of fags and parasites, nullifying all of the benefits.

>> No.46583353

>>46583281
Nene is uniroincally affected by this due to failing CCV and sub count.

>> No.46583380

>>46583281
>he thinks nene isn't next

>> No.46583382

>>46583160
I don't see how they would benefit from joining Vshojo, unless they go really big on idolshit for the JP branch. Kanata is all about music, and Marine is all about her big expensive projects. If they're settling for doing the same thing Nazuna has been doing there, I can't see at least Marine not just reviving her roommate.

>> No.46583401

>>46583323
Proof?

>> No.46583454

>>46583323
A company-wide move to milestone only would hurt any slow-growing chuuba.
I didn't think much of Marine's new outfit merch being labeled "2 million celebration goods" and being kind of underwhelming, but it could be a reflection of that as well.

>> No.46583460

>>46583382
Better merch opportunities and more music freedoms? More chances to actually get funded without a cut for their projects and music?

I can think of a million reasons why VShojo will be more profitable than Cover as a result of their objective failure of an IPO in the long run.

>> No.46583487

>>46580161
hope they do this to Council next

>> No.46583504

>>46583323
Stars sell a lot of merch, retard, even with their lower viewer counts. Literally the whole "Stars are a failure" shit is because the board is infested with retards who can't see past sub count, ccv, and superchats
Which, apparently the investors are too

>> No.46583516

>>46583281
Nene is next since her CCV and sub count are on the lower end. I'm surprised she hasn't brought it up because it's clear she's one of the deadweights in Hololive.

>> No.46583557

>>46583323
>the ID girls have had made-to-order since the beginning,
ID girls have pre-made limited stock merchs now. I remember this very well because I wanted Reine’s merch and it got sold out in a matters of fucking minutes. Fuck cover!

>> No.46583558

>First they came for the homos and I didn't care because it wasn't my oshi
>Then they came for the ID girls and I didn't care because it wasn't my oshi
>Then they came for HoloJP and I didn't care because it wasn't my oshi
>Then they came for HoloEN and I didn't care because it wasn't my oshi
>Then they came for my oshi, and there was no one left to save her.

>> No.46583566

>>46583323
>the ID girls have had made-to-order since the beginning
*limited stock

>> No.46583586

>>46583487
HoloX is first :^)
>>46583323
That's not what the investors think. There's a reason why Marine's 2M merch was a flop and she's not allowed to create an orisong like Maribako anymore.

>> No.46583613

>>46583586
>There's a reason why Marine's 2M merch was a flop
Proof?

>> No.46583639

>>46583586
>and she's not allowed to create an orisong like Maribako anymore.
fanfiction

>> No.46583651

>>46583558
>implying anything else will happen

>> No.46583657

>>46583586
>HoloX is first :^)
but why would they do that to a successful gen?

>> No.46583666

>>46583613
It didn't sell as high as her birthday/anniversary merch?

>> No.46583712

>>46583651
This anon does not IPO

>> No.46583713

>>46583666
Number?

>> No.46583729

>>46583657
>successful
L M F A O

>> No.46583733

>>46582944
There isn't even enough Cover stock on the market for investors to "will" shit, even if a single entity bought every available share

>> No.46583735

>>46583639
Yeah, that anon was lying. The reason she isn't allowed to make songs like msribako because it was too lewd

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oh wait this is a #fag thread nevermind

fuck you faggots i'm going home.

>> No.46583760

>>46583651
>underestimating the sheer retardation and greed of investors

>> No.46583784

>>46583651
Flare's very own birthday merch was standardized just a few days ago retard

>> No.46583822

>>46583729
>one of the gens to sell the most merch
>most memebers are top SC earners
>most are top Membership earners
the last time i checked they where doing way better than council is everyway

>> No.46583857

>>46583735
Exactly why the investors don't like it. She'd be able to do that in VShojo though just saying.

>> No.46583879

>>46583122
>her roommate is popular enough that there is no reason for he not to do it.
uh huh, we've heard that how many times now?

>> No.46583891

>>46583729
They just got collaboration recently, isn't that one of the parameters for how successful they are?

>> No.46583916

>>46583822
Fauna has more SC earnings and average CCV than Laflop

>> No.46583945

>>46580161
>homo gets fucked
this means
>the girls will be fucked too
huh?

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>YAGOO copying JAPAN'S YOUNGEST BILLIONARE again
Why is he such a fanboy?

>> No.46583961

I really doubt any girl will be affected by this because it's an economy of scale issue
There are certain fixed costs associated with making custom merch, so when the homos don't sell very much of it Cover gets less profit
Even the lower end girls sell a lot more merch than the homos, so the fixed costs are spread over a larger sales volume and the profit on each sale is higher

>> No.46583990

>>46583891
Still not enough for the investors to be happy kek

>> No.46583994

>>46583961
>Even the lower end girls sell a lot more merch than the homos
it came to him in a dream

>> No.46584017

>>46583945
Yes retard, learn to read. It's numberfaggery based and investors don't care about the unicorn culture war. They will short your oshi to make their line go up no matter what genitals they have.

>> No.46584055

>>46583961
You are what we like to call a useful idiot.
Why do you think Flare had no birthday merch this year?

>> No.46584085

>>46583994
Prove me wrong then
Face it, nobody cares about your beloved homos, not even Cover does anymore

>> No.46584097

>>46583961
Anon girls are already having their merch affected by this, this isn't a nothingburger

>> No.46584131

>>46583784
Oh well if even Flare is getting hit it really is all over

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>>46583916
sure thing buddy

>> No.46584166

>>46582272
>anon only thinks about money

>> No.46584187

>>46582987
your thinking of Uyu, and his situation is that he works at his families place so this is a side job for him.

>> No.46584199

>>46584085
>>46583784
Look at the big picture retardchama

>> No.46584266

>>46584199
If Flare got fucked over for no birthday merch and no live then yes, she's affected by this too.

>> No.46584318

>>46584266
And it will 100% happen to Kanata next.

>> No.46584326

>>46583784
Where? I don't see it on the store. Give me the link if you're not talking out of your ass.

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46584375

>>46583916
and here is scs

>> No.46584400

>>46584326
Correction: It was scrapped entirely for unknown reasons. I just watched her archive.

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>>46583034
Last week or two weeks ago, Lamy talked about her upcoming anniversary merch, in regards to it being limited or not. Context: she used to do signed postcards for all of her merch sales but as the years went by it became more strenuous for her to do so. One year for her birthday or anniversary merch she had a limited sale and was unhappy about scalpers and most fans not being able to place an order before being sold out.

Anyway fast forward to modern times and since Cover has their own merch website instead of relying on Booth, Lamy talked to management to see if they would allow her to set a certain amount for limited time signed postcard sales (5k or 10k), and make it so that it is only one postcard per sale/mailing address. As opposed to before, where the limited sales on booth probably only allowed 1000 or less, and one person could buy multiple sets for multiple postcards.

At any rate it doesn't seem like this will affect the JP girls immediately (up until at least August), if at all.

>> No.46584488

Prepare for Nijification anons
>lower quality merch
>pure unfettered numberfaggery
>blatantly ignoring anyone who isn't making a billion dollars per stream
>punishing anyone who wants to make unique merch, less frequent content, or content on their own terms

>> No.46584547

>>46584452
So even Lamy is affected by this? It really is fucking over.

>> No.46584554

>>46584097
Where and when are they affected?

>> No.46584677

>>46584554
Flare having birthday merch completely scrapped and >>46584452 for Lamy
Kanata is next btw

>> No.46584696

>>46584547
>>46584677
Huh?

>> No.46584734

>>46580161
I wouldn't be surprised if you hear similar news about HoloID and HoloEN in the near future, this is starting to sound like the 'Sad News' several of the talents were talking about 2-3 months ago.

>> No.46584749

>>46584696
Read >>46584452
Lamy may be the first of standardized anniversary merch.

>> No.46584773

>>46581817
>who are known to punch above their weight with merch sales
Source? Proof?

>> No.46584791

Why do I even bother

>> No.46584804

>>46584773
See>>46584452

>> No.46584805

>>46584749
Did you even read the post yourself? Nowhere does it imply that Lamy's merch will be affected.

>> No.46584812

>>46584749
You clearly didn't read it yourself since she was only talking about postcards
>>46584734
Similarly we know what that was, it was that Kiara's new outfit wasn't done by Huke
Also they're not beholden to any "investors", Yagoo and A-chan still own 60% of the company
Feel free to continue your fanfiction-based doomposting though

>> No.46584826

>>46581817
Google money isn't even good money desu

>> No.46584875

>>46582931
Stars have been around for years and years with no breakthrough. They aren't some baby branch who debuted last month.

>> No.46584886

I've come to the conclusion that everyone claiming this will affect the girls is an illiterate retard
I will care if I see a girl with standardized merch, until then fuck you and fuck homostars

>> No.46584913

>>46580161
>standardized merch
What does this mean?

>> No.46584941

>>46584400
Unless I missed something, she didn't mention it being scrapped at all. She mentioned her live possibly being canceled, but trying to figure out how to do it just delayed. And I'd assume she would delay merch details until she knows for sure it's going to be canceled, as otherwise she'd just reveal it at the delayed live.

>> No.46584943

>>46584812
>they're not beholden to any "investors"
they are if they actually want shit and don't want to lose the investors they carefully hand picked to fund them.

>> No.46584948

>>46584886
Keep living in a fantasy land. The investors are clearly trying to push Yagoo out since he doesn't own the majority anymore.

>> No.46584965

>>46584804
What does that post about Lamy have to do with the Stars "punching above their weight", anon

>> No.46584972

>>46584886
See you in a couple months

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>>46584400
You know, maybe that's why Flare suddenly started putting her sub count on screen. It looks like she's actively pushing for 1M now, so maybe any merch she gets will be tied to getting that milestone if that's the new way to get merch.

>> No.46585002

>>46584886
Nice cope anon

>> No.46585004

>>46584805
It's clear you can't read because she clearly said she won't be able to do postcards anymore.

>> No.46585006

>>46584943
They already have the money anon, the people who bought the stock can't take it back
Look at Facebook, Zuck is running it into the ground pissing away billions of dollars on VR headsets and nobody can stop him

>> No.46585027

Enjoy your keychain homokeks

>> No.46585033

>>46584972
Yeah two more weeks, then finally shitters like Kanata who can pull more viewership than the entire Holostars combined playing a 10 year old game will finally get the same treatment! YOU'LL SEE! YOU'LL ALL SEE

>> No.46585046

>>46585004
Are you drunk?

>> No.46585094

>>46585027
Enjoy yours too in like a year

>> No.46585103

>>46583857
it's her worst song so far, I'm good.

>> No.46585140

>>46585033
Kanata is also a weird example since she literally just put out an ¥11K custom merch set for her fucking minecraft axolotl mascot

>> No.46585168

>>46584773
Merch numbers are hard to get an exact hold of, but Holostars merch constantly sells out every single run they do

>> No.46585228

>>46584941
Fuck, is this why Akirose's live is still in limbo? She'll only get to do it after reaching a subs milestone?

>> No.46585256

>>46585033
I love the cope but Kanata is one of the worst Holos CCVwise

>> No.46585267

>>46584773
Some starsfags sold merch out in minutes which says a lot considering the relative size of the fanbase. It's like the opposite of Holo fans where they have tons of fans but most of they are lazy greynames.

>> No.46585268

>>46585168
Huh? They aren't made to order?

>> No.46585273

>>46585004
Anon, please, read the words
>Lamy is one of the holos who used to do unlimited postcards
>She's now too popular and doesn't want to sign 50000 postcards
>However, she knows scalpers are a problem, so wants to limit postcards to 1 per address
That's literally it, anything else is coming from your imagination

>> No.46585293

>>46583039
>ID whores will be no more
>meaning they won't be trying to force the stars and the females to collab every other week
I see this as nothing but a win

>> No.46585306

>>46585140
Before they went public anon
>>46585103
It's her favorite

>> No.46585315

>>46584554
You know, in the past week we had 4 new outfits from Mel, Ayame, Marine and Mori.

Ayame and Marine had merch with theirs.
Mel and Mori did not.

>> No.46585318

>>46583784
Retards, Flare's merch always sell better than Marine's

>> No.46585320

>>46585006
What are you talking about the investors shorted Facebook into the ground and Zuck was forced to layoff a large percentage of the workforce and scrapped Meta entirely for AI.

This happened like 2 weeks ago anon.

>> No.46585331

>homos are so pathetic they only sell merch in limited quantities of 50
>they are able to sell all 50 units
>"HOLY FREAKING CRAP THEYRE PRINTING MONEY CABRONS"

>> No.46585357

>>46585267
I hope you haven't deluded yourself into thinking the Stars sell more merch than Holos.
Anon, do you think cover is somehow biased AGAINST the Stars? You think they'd be doing this to their merch if it was making acceptable levels of profit?

>> No.46585359

>>46585306
Anon, their listing on the stock exchange took them from 64% owned by Yagoo to 60% owned by Yagoo, what exactly do you think this changes

>> No.46585375

>>46585006
>using zuck as an example
kek

>> No.46585401

>>46585315
and?

>> No.46585410

>>46585315
O...kay?

>> No.46585432

>>46585357
>cover is somehow biased AGAINST the Stars
no, investors are retards and can't see past ccv and sub counts

>> No.46585451

>>46584875
Fair, I suppose, but shit like the full branch concerts aren't optional.
>Why can't I have this merch I want? I'm even willing to pay for it
>Because you don't make enough money
>So why do I have to waste my time with all of the lessons and rehearsals?
>Because that makes us money
The JP side of both branches has clearly been overworked lately with all of the brand collabs and big events, and in turn they say "fuck you, no merch this year unless you give us numbers", which is pretty counter productive since being busy off stream doesn't really help increase their channel numbers.

>> No.46585457

>>46585357
I'm NTA so I'm not claiming Stars makes more merch money than Holos, that's kind of stupid to say. I'm just saying there is a reason people say that they make more money than people in /#/ seem to think.

>> No.46585507

>>46584913
Instead of unique merch ideas for big events like Birthdays and Anniversaries, every year it will be Postcard, Acrylic Stand, Stickers and that's it.

>> No.46585550

>>46585451
>but shit like the full branch concerts aren't optional.
We'll see

>> No.46585561

>>46585359
Way more than you think if Stars and Flare/Kanata are fucked with standardized merch

>> No.46585615

>>46585228
Probably the 3D Live is OK but if there was unique merch she wanted to do with it that might be what is causing the delay.

>> No.46585632

>>46585451
Yeah explains why Flare got fucked over

>> No.46585635

I don't really know why people are trying to over-complicate it. Stars just aren't popular enough to try and justify unique merch for each member. It really is as simple as that.

>> No.46585636

>>46585561
Exactly, this IPO change just happened. This isn't the end, this is the START.

>> No.46585639

>>46585168
If it’s not made to order it’s not punching above instead it’s proof that they don’t expect anything crazy.

>> No.46585673

>>46585306
Source? I really doubt a Toby Fox lewd song is her favorite over getting to work with her beloved Kohei Tanaka.

>> No.46585711

>>46585635
I am .ore confused where all the Flare and Kanata stuff is coming from? Can I get a clip or transcript?

>> No.46585725

>>46585635
It affected Flare and Lamy though

>> No.46585727

>>46585228
No it’s in limbo because they don’t allow stars to miss their birthday or anniversaries. Aki is unsure when she can use the studio but Rikka already knows he’s celebrating. They deserve to die out

>> No.46585738

>>46585401
>>46585410
Marine's new outfit merch is titled "2 million subscribers celebration goods", not "new outfit goods". This is 100% in line with what the homo said in his stream.

>> No.46585740

>>46582357
You can't see the forest for the trees retard, this is obviously the first step in a company wide shift

>> No.46585767

>>46584948
You didn't even read the IPO did you? Cover still owns the majority of their stock, and the investors don't get voting rights. There's literally nothing they can do outside of complaining.

>> No.46585779

>>46585401
>>46585410
Do you need me to spell it out for you? On one end Marine is guaranteed merch still, Mel and Mori at opposite end is not guaranteed now. Ayame is more in the middle but on the upper side so that range is guaranteed. Anyone with an Oshi who pulls in subs/ccv lower than Ayame should keep an eye out as they may be suffering similar as Mel and Mori soon.

>> No.46585780

>>46585738
Subscriber milestone merch has been happening for years. Explain Ayame?

>> No.46585800

>>46583160
I hope you never gamble in RL

>> No.46585818

>homos will start to get niji-tier merch from now on
>this could affect the girls very soon
>"LOL GET FUCKED HOMOS, WHAT A NOTHINGBURGER"
I am now 100% convinced that catalogfags don't know how to read

>> No.46585859

>>46585711
Use your brain retard

>> No.46585861

>>46583237
(You)

>> No.46585860

>>46585727
You're a malicious retard, you know that?

>> No.46585865

>>46585738
You're literally arguing about wording, if marine asked for literally anything else that's not an outfit it will also be named 2 mil merch

>> No.46585928

>>46585561
>Flare/Kanata are fucked with standardized merch
There is literally 0 proof of this, just dramafags yelling loudly in the thread

>> No.46585933

>>46585767
See>>46585636
>>46585561
It's going to get way worse. Hololive's glory days are unironically fucking over. Yagoo will be forced to sell when he's under 40% (he's at 43% right now)

>> No.46585934

>>46585859
Source: my asshole

>> No.46585989

>Doomposting about the girl's merch
If you take like 3 seconds to actually think the standardized merch route was inevitable for Stars ever since one of the JP Stars mentioned that their going to be pushing harder for things like memberships in order to compensate for their low numbers.

I greatly doubt the girls would ever get affected because one every girl with the exception of some ID's consistently break 3k CCV with JPs basically incaple of falling below 5k making them the literal top streamers of Vtubing in the world, and two even supposed shitters sell out of their merch within minutes of release like Kiara's water bottle.

>> No.46585999

>>46585928
Kanata said she won't be able to do merch for her birthday this year in her last mengen

>> No.46586045

Why do homobeggars lie with something so public? How do you have the gall to say the stars are successful and make good money when not even 3 weeks ago Cover release a Pdf for investors where the homos basically got 2 pages. You now that would be the perfect time to tell how they punch above there weigth how they only need a little more of a push to become money makers, but no nothing, they are nothing more than a footnote and when asked who tho incline them by investors Yagoo basically admired he didn't have a single clue of how to do it.

The WNBA of vtubers.

>> No.46586055

ITT: falseflagging sisters and Vtrashtaste cucks mainlining hopium about Hololive totally dying in 2 more weeks

>> No.46586054

>>46585933
See what? Some other idiot pulling bullshit out their ass? What does that prove exactly?

>> No.46586079

>>46583961
I'm 100% positive higher tier boys like Roberu, Magni, Bettel, and probably Vesper and Astel as well sell more shit and make more money than the lower tier JP and ID girls. This shit is going to hit everyone eventually.

>> No.46586134

>>46585999
Provide actual proof or you're a fucking liar.

>> No.46586163

>>46580161
Probably Yagoo trying to make Stars more profitable.
He was asked by investors why Stars aren't more popular like males are in Nijisanji and he deflected by saying that they specialize in female streamers and refused to answer anymore questions.

>> No.46586226

>>46585818
>this could affect the girls very soon
>Oga talked how management wanted them to get more memberships
>No girl ever mentioned that
>It was only for homos because they live out of the girls money

Nothingburger and I don't care, this will not affect any hololive member

>> No.46586238

If there is any weight to this sub-merch connection becoming standard, I feel like there should be some weight of responsibility now on 1st Army members to 'adopt' 1-2 of the girls struggling at the bottom and collabing and doing more with them to help bring eyes and attention to them. HoloBox and HoloFamily don't mean shit if its gonna become segregated success.

>> No.46586239

>>46585999
What? She didn't say anything like that

>> No.46586249

>>46586079
They'll probably outsell some ID's but lower veiwed JP's basically shit all over Stars' combined in terms of viewership and merch revenue.

>> No.46586327

>>46585859
No give me a source or I call you a bot in need of rape correction.

>> No.46586338

>>46586238
Agreed.

>> No.46586376

>>46586226
Yeah, it's just a coincidence that Gura suddenly started to thank people for gifting memberships when she has never done so before.

>> No.46586437

>>46585989
>JPs basically incaple of falling below 5k
Outside her morning show, Mel regularly struggles to break 4k and sometimes even 3k

>> No.46586672

>>46584375
Kind reminder that when you take a screenshot and just paste it it gets named ''image_*date*_*random number
The word image is written in the language you pc is set on, so.....
image: English
Imagen: Spic
imagem: Brazilian Portuguese
Who ever is arguing with >>46584375 just know he's a fucking brazilian KEK

>> No.46586725

>>46585989
>>46586437
>muh CCV
Cover cares about subs, memberships, scs and VOD views in that order. CCV is an irrelevant number that doesn't bring any money.

>> No.46586779

>>46586725
That's not what was in the IPO.
Sub count was.

>> No.46586828

Are 90% of the posts in this thread fucking AI generated

>> No.46586846

>>46586437
I actually didn't know that about Mel yet that still funny enough puts her in the still profitable and well watched territory instead of the danger zone of 3 digit live views.

>> No.46586952

>>46586846
Not true if she has a poor sub count.
And btw I'm only telling you what the investors are telling Yagoo. I don't believe it either.

>> No.46586981

I would like the schizos to explain how the IPO can be responsible for changes to merch when multiple members have said merch takes 6-8 months of planning and the IPO happened one week ago

>> No.46587027

>>46586672
>BTFO by a monkey
i don't think that make things less worse anon

>> No.46587144

>>46586376
Because she was actually reading supas while playing and people started spamming gifted memberships???????? I don't know, maybe that's the reason

>> No.46587151

>>46586981
anon... IPOs take way more than 6-8 months of planning...

>> No.46587180

>>46586981
Not anymore.

>> No.46587210

>>46586725
Ah if that's the case than that literally compounds my point further that the girls won't be affected because every JP, EN, and ID girl is above 500k.

>> No.46587221

>>46587151
ogey but do these mythical investors that are pressuring them to change their business plans have a time machine or what

>> No.46587231

>>46583106
>What a fucking waste of a gen
You mean Tempus?

>> No.46587274

>>46587231
They're just as much of a flop as ShilloX

>> No.46587303

>>46586952
Mel is sitting at 800k+ subs so she's good

>> No.46587315

>>46587144
You think that was the first time some attention seeking retards gifted her memberships? She never thanked them or welcomed the gifted. She doesn't like membership gifting, so why would she encourage it if not for the company telling her to do so?

>> No.46587321

>>46584826
No I mean that Cover's investors seem more preoccupied with making money *for* google by emphasising membership numbers rather than merch, which has better profit margins and cuts google out completely. Investors are short sighted retards is what I'm saying.

>> No.46587348

>>46587303
Not good enough per investors

>> No.46587352

>>46587151
>>46587221
followup question: if they knew investors would want these changes months ago, why did they let Kanata release a $90 minecraft axolotl plushie that isn't even tied to a special occasion a few weeks ago

>> No.46587406

>>46587315
That explains why other Holos just recently turned on gifted memberships

>> No.46587412

>>46587274
Oh yeah, I'm sure they are, but let's ignore every conceivable metric just so you can justify your butthurt towards Holox.

>> No.46587463

>>46587352
Because it was before the IPO dumbass

>> No.46587515

>>46587463
But if things planned before the IPO are still normal then you wouldn't see any merch changes for another 6 months??

>> No.46587544

>>46586952
>And btw I'm only telling you what the investors are telling Yagoo.
Yes, because you somehow have an a tap on their conversations...

>> No.46587549

>>46587412
Are you the Last Samurai cuck that keeps coping that HoloX is profitable? When in reality they turn the smallest of any gen in Hololive?

KWAB

>> No.46587556

so what we learn is that homo and low tier holos will get shit merch while the upper class holo still get customized merch?
that's good actually, idc about homos and low tier holos, only 10k+ccv and 800k subs holos matter to me
get fucked

>> No.46587565

>>46580161
Good, studio time and production time and resources should be prioritized to the girls

>> No.46587567

>>46587221
It's not like they don't know they're a bunch of shitters, it's no like they don't make money, but form the perspective that they recive a similar amount of support to Hololive they probably saw the writing on the wall and these moves were made preemptively so they could justifiy their existence to investors.

>> No.46587604

>>46587515
Because things changed when investors suddenly came in. Expect multiple accounts of this in future mengens from your oshi.

>> No.46587616

>>46587549
>smallest of any gen in Hololive
I'm sure that's accurate.

>> No.46587708

>>46587556
All of HoloX rumao

>> No.46587729

>>46587556
>so what we learn is that homo and low tier holos will get shit merch while the upper class holo still get customized merch?
No, what we learn is retards talk out their ass and expect everyone else to believe it because they have the same room temperature IQ. 90% of this thread is garbage baseless rrata

>> No.46587750

>>46587348
>not good enough for investors
Unless the investors were those retarded people who expected Devil May Cry 4 to get Call of Duty numbers back in late 2000's than I highly doubt it's not good enough since that sub count literally puts Mel in the top 0.3% of Vtubers in the world and top 15 most subbed if you placed her in Nijisanji.

>> No.46587812

>>46587750
That isn't profitable enough if Rikka is close to that percentile either you fucking retard

>> No.46587939

So what I'm getting from the experts in this thread is that they changed their plans to please time-travelling investors, except in a different way for holostars and hololive for no particular reason, based on expert analysis of a holostars chat log and one guy completely misunderstanding a thing Lamy said
Excellent work as always catalog-san

>> No.46587997
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46587997

You will join holostars membership and buy their merch right anon?

>> No.46588006
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46588006

>>46587812
...Rikka only has 228k subs anon

>> No.46588025

>>46587939
Yagoo is literally being forced out and you're laughing at people for stating facts about the new normal at Hololi- I mean Holopro

>> No.46588081
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46588081

>>46587549
anon, dont talk about things you dont know shit about

>> No.46588088

>>46588006
And the same SC/CCV earnings as Mel

>> No.46588154

>>46588025
Who's forcing him out? Him and A-chan own 55% of the company

>> No.46588161

>>46587549
>smallest of any gen in Hololive
sure you have data to support that right?

>> No.46588206

>>46587939
All you need to know is that starsJP will start getting standardized merch and that they're being encouraged to reach subs milestones, that's the only fact

>> No.46588222

>>46588025
Hes not being forced out.
That would imply he had any power worth forcing out in the first place

>> No.46588300

>>46588154
43% now

>> No.46588319

>>46588088
Didn't you say CCV didn't matter and subs was more important? I don't know Mel's or Rikka's exactly revenue but to put things in perspective again if you insert Mel's subs into Nijisanji for comparison she's in the top 15 but if you put Rikka in Nijisanji he doesn't even make it into the top 100 channels.

>> No.46588336

>>46588222
>own the company
>doesn't have any power
Ogey

>> No.46588364

>>46588088
>SC/CCV
A quick search shows that he's nowhere near Mel on either metric. This isn't a #-thread, it's a shitposter thread where everyone has a quarter of a brain cell.

>> No.46588401

>>46588300
No, they own a combined 55% after the IPO. Their CTO owns another 5%.
Riku does own 43% of Anycolor though which I guess is the number you're thinking of

>> No.46588407

>>46584488
>or [making] content on their own terms
That's called being indie

>> No.46588413

>>46588336
Correct. Investors now own 57% of Hololive.
https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=from%3A%40shikihojp_lvh%205253&src=typed_query

>> No.46588427

>>46587315
It actually is the first time people started gifting memberships like that on her channel, the first time someone gifted memberships I heard some people send him death threats, and the rest of the times is just people sending some on the prechat and almost never on stream, her fanbase is not famous for throwing money at her with gifted. And the other times she just ignored it, like 90% of the sc. She said that she didn't liked it like a lot of more members, but if you can't disable it, then you just have to accept it
>>46587406
You can't turn that off, it's automatically on retard

>> No.46588504

>>46582357
>he doesn't know the girls aren't safe
Girls are the most profitable parts of Holo. The boys may as well be test runs.

>> No.46588527

>>46588413
Anon, of the three tweets there, two of them are Cover employees

>> No.46588531

>>46588427
>It actually is the first time people started gifting memberships like that on her channel
Wrong. Watch streams faggot.

>> No.46588555

>>46588413
From what I remember an entirely separate company owned by Yagoo is also owns part of the shares so him owning 43% isn't entirely accurate as he basically owns some more portions under another name essentially.

>> No.46588585

>>46582357
People don't know how to read. Everyone is getting shafted.

>> No.46588597

>>46580161
kek yeah the girls will get the same treatment as your 2-3views shitters. Get fucked leech

>> No.46588601

>>46588504
He got BTFO anyways. Marine/Flare/Lamy/Kanata are proof.

>> No.46588651

>>46582357
Everyone in Hololive is fucked either way.
Flare got her birthday merch pack scrapped and Lamy was told to tone it down for this year.

>> No.46588667

>>46583651
>he thinks that investors won't go the full 9 yards after taking an inch
ngmi

>> No.46588713

>>46588555
Nice cope. The report specifically says he and someone else own 43% and investors are the remaining 57%

>> No.46588715

>>46588601
You just gunna keep adding Holos with 0 evidence until someone believes you?

>> No.46588749

>>46588585
Males are getting shafted since they dont have enough people for self funded merch especially with tempus 2 thinning the oil fields
Not a problem for the girls since the lowest girl moves a ton more merch than the boys
Only difference is that they are getting seasonal stuff aside from their regular merch

>> No.46588769

>>46588601
>>46588651
>Lamy
Do you idiots even read the thread?

>> No.46588784

Man, many really didn't know how to read. A nijinigger like behaviour, shout something like its the truth

>> No.46588789

>>46583651
Investors own more than half (57%) of Hololive. They're going to force Yagoo out at this rate
https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=from%3A%40shikihojp_lvh%205253&src=typed_query

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>>46582272
>counsil

>> No.46588853

>>46588713
Reading comprehension doko
>>46588527

>> No.46588865

>>46588749
>regular merch
roru
rumao

>> No.46588864

>>46588769
Do you have to ask? Dramafags are trogladytes, anything beyond cave paintings is too much for them

>> No.46588934

>>46588853
I could explain it to him explicitly but I'm fairly sure it breaks rule 1 to say who it is that owns that 9.1%

>> No.46588947

finally a good news
hope these fuckers can stand on their own instead of riding Hololive girls success

>> No.46588972

>>46584941
It was delayed due to holostars which is why rikka and most of the boys have their 3d while aki and flare are left to the dust

>> No.46588989

>>46588749
That's literally not what's happening either. It's a company wide move, it affects every single member.

>> No.46588990

>>46588947
The girls are fucked too

>> No.46589054

>>46588749
This affects practically everyone. Everyone will be getting standardized merch. Rikka was just the first to break the news.

>> No.46589064

>>46588990
Yeah, true sister

>> No.46589069

>>46584812
>Also they're not beholden to any "investors"
do you know how economics work?

>> No.46589092

>>46588865
>anon doesnt know about self funded merch
ruru
>>46588989
nope its not a company wide move
the only reason why this is happening in the first place was because yagoo was caught pants down during the investors interview with stars

>> No.46589126

>>46589064
See>>46588972
Aki and Flare are fucked too
>>46589069
Holobronies are the biggest retards on the face of the Earth of course they don't know how economics work.

>> No.46589174

>>46589092
Why do you keep talking like you know what's going to happen? It is a company wide move.

>> No.46589181

>>46589092
>self-funded merch
Won't pass investors with new IPO. They now control all merch sales.

>> No.46589184

>>46589054
Yeah everyone is getting standardized merch anon its one of covers plans to increase money the difference is that the boys dont have a big enough fanbase in order to invest in merch themselves or get merch fundings from cover

>> No.46589202

>>46589126
So source is in your head

>> No.46589237

>>46589092
Yes it fucking is. All of them are getting standardized merch. Listen to what Rikka had to say you goddamn retard.
>self-funded merch
Doesn't exist, faggot.

>> No.46589294

EVERYONE WILL BE GETTING STABDARDIZED MERCH. PLEASE BELIEVE MY FAGGOTRY

>> No.46589293

>>46589126
>Aki and Flare are fucked too
Read anon, Aki and Flare got fucked because Rikka and the others had to have their birthday. Its the whole reason why Stars are getting shafted when in comes to merch since the greedy fucks want to invest more in the girls since they have a bigger roi than the boys

>> No.46589295

>>46589202
See>>46589184
ALL TALENTS ARE AFFECTED BY THIS. NOT JUST HOLOSTARS

>> No.46589300

>>46588972
Show me where, specifically, Flare mentioned it was delayed due to the stars.
>well it's obvious if..
Nah, correlation is not causation. Unless you have actual proof you can fuck right off.

>> No.46589347

>>46589293
Nice cope but they're still all getting standardized merch either way since investors clearly didn't like the allotments going into merch sales for those who don't fit their vision for success.

>> No.46589401

>>46580161
More evidence that going public ruins vtubing. Support small corpos and indies

>> No.46589404

>>46589300
IT AFFECTS EVERYONE IN HOLOPRO, STUPID

>> No.46589465

EVERYONE WILL BE GETTING STANDARDIZED MERCH. PLEASE BELIEVE MY FAGGOTRY. I WRITE IT IN CAPITAL LETTERS

>> No.46589474

>>46589404
Yes yes, I'm sure it does dramasister, typing in all caps definitely makes it true.

>> No.46589489

>>46589404
Just lay it off, anon. It's going to happen, they just don't understand it now.

>> No.46589540

>>46584886
It literally just did affect then.
Suisei got to release merch for an April Fools joke while Flare has no birthday merch.

>> No.46589573

>>46589489
Prove they're not beholden to investors then

>> No.46589587

>>46589347
Yeah the girls are getting standard merch on top of their regular merch anon and you know the funny part that people are ignoring with regards to stars
Astel already talked about this some time ago last year about wanting to do some personal merch but not being able to due to his own budget constraints on how profitable it would be

>> No.46589630

Everyone, I came from the future like the anon that said everyone will have standardised merchandise. Aside from the standardise merch, every girls will have a tenga merch that will sale billions

>> No.46589634

>>46584886
Flare had no birthday merch
Yes it affected the girls you delusional tard

>> No.46589697

>>46589634
Thats because her 3d was delayed probably due to Rikka filming his

>> No.46589717

>>46589587
>regular merch
Why are you pretending like you know what goes on? There's no such thing as regular merch anymore.
Hope you enjoy your standard set for Kanata's birthday

>> No.46589735

>>46589573
Literally go read their IPO statement retardchama. Investors do not have a majority of company stock, and all investors had to accept a non-voting role. Without either of those, they can't force shit. They can bitch all they want, but Cover is free to ignore them

>> No.46589797

>>46589735
They own 57% of it
https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=from%3A%40shikihojp_lvh%205253&src=typed_query

>> No.46589798

I mean people were already talking about how an ipo is a death warrant for stars especially when they move less merch than HoloID so its not surprising they are gonna get the niji treatment

>> No.46589805

>>46580161
based. Cover should focus on the girls

>> No.46589809

>>46583516
Have you seen her superchat earning?

>> No.46589861

>>46589805
They're fucked too. This applies to everyone.
>>46589809
Yes. It's mid.

>> No.46589859

>>46589797
You can keep linking that all you want, but as has been pointed out several times, that "57%" contains two hololive employees as well.

>> No.46589867

are we winning sisters?

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>>46582850
>Stars merch
>sells well
nice shitpost anon!

Then entire temflops merch was $29K
Faunas merch was $131K

They truly are subsidized and the investors finally faced the reality

>> No.46589933

>>46589859
Keep telling yourself that illiterate EOP
Clearly fucking says 57% of investors own Cover

>> No.46589938

>>46589861
and who told you that? Your boss Noor? you brown skinned pajeet

>> No.46589950

>>46589867
kek from the looks of it they are losing it and are trying to make it so that the girls are affected not even realizing that Iofi the runt off Holo moves the equivalent of 3 Homo merch

>> No.46589993

>>46589950
Source: headcanon

>> No.46589996

>>46589237
>Doesn't exist, faggot
Look at this newfag also lurk /#/'s more or do archive reps.

>> No.46589997

>>46589950
They are unironically affected though. To assume they're not based on what Rikka said is ignorance at its finest.

>> No.46590001

>>46584941
There's been a huge backlog in 3D that girls have been having to pay out the ass for a third party studio (Cover apparently let's them use their studio for cheap).
Kiara got greenlit for a delayed Cover studio 3D live so it seems like the backlog will be done by then.

>> No.46590033

>>46589797
>>46589933
57% split between how many people? If not a single entity own more than Cover then none of them are majority shareholders.

>> No.46590057

>>46589996
Because self-funded merch won't bypass the investors which now own 57% of Cover.

Illiterate delusional EOP

>> No.46590062

>>46589997
they are unironically unaffected anon especially if we base it on what rikka and what astel said

>> No.46590063

niji defense force is really at it huh?
>n...now at least were not alone on makings-shitty merch
Homobeggars and nijiniggers belongs to the same subhuman species

>> No.46590066

>>46589880
Do tell where you got the selling numbers for both.

>> No.46590116

>>46582559
Would anyone in ID really give a shit?

>> No.46590124

>>46590033
At least 1000 different investors depending on share sold?
>>46590001
How delusional are you? They can't afford it anymore.

>> No.46590127

>>46590066
glowie pls
i think you know where it comes from

>> No.46590142

>>46589295
using a shitpost to prove your head theory? It doesnt work like that sis.

>> No.46590150

>>46590066
It was posted in hlg yesterday, Im at work man, go browse the archive

>> No.46590182

>>46589997
>a homo
>a holo didn't mention it
>marine just released custom merch
>no holos ranting about it
yeah, nijiniggers are celebrating that the homos have at least the same style of shit they produce lmao.

>> No.46590185

>>46590127
What? Your headcanon?

>> No.46590199

>>46590062
He implied everyone in Holopro is affected, but some would see bigger cuts than others based on sub count.
>>46590063
You are obsessed with Nijisanji. Most Holobros are doomposting for a reason.

>> No.46590252

>>46590001
Also theres something interesting in that area since the Uproar boys were denied in having a 3d anniversary not delayed but denied
This is what astel that other stars meant that they have to carry their own weight now

>> No.46590259

>>46590142
The proof is literally fucking there. Scroll up illiterate EOP
>>46590182
>Marine just released custom merch
Finalized before IPO. She won't be able to do it again and even said so on stream you retard

>> No.46590343

>>46590259
>Finalized before IPO
Would be weird considering that Rikka would have also gotten his merch if that was the case

>> No.46590348

>>46590199
I don't hear any holo talking about it? not even member's post? Sharts are the sharts. stop projecting nijinig.

>>46590252
Good. I fucking hate it when the sharts take away studio time from the girls

>> No.46590404

>>46590199
Why the fuck would Astel know what's happening within Hololive management.
>>46590252
Myth girls are currently pushing for a 3D live anniversary so it'd be interesting to see if that gets greenlit.

>> No.46590412

>>46590199
only saw stars doomposting along with # ealier though?

>> No.46590450

>>46590001
No shit theirs been a backlog, they are building a brand new fucking giant ass 3D studio for exactly that reason.

>> No.46590467

>>46589174
Anon this policy might be company wide but most of holostars are 3views. Why do you think Astel and Ollie were talking about this sad news that management wouldn't let them explain back in January? Why did Oga mention that management had asked holostars to get more viewers to join membership? Cover using benchmarks for subscribers and memberships will mostly be a problem for holostars.

>> No.46590495

>>46590404
>Myth girls are currently pushing for a 3D live anniversary so it'd be interesting to see if that gets greenlit.
Kiara already said that she's gonna be having a 3D but not on her birthday and Ina recorded hers along with her anni thing as well

>> No.46590514

>>46590412
It's a nijinigger trying to act like one to gaslight people again. "holobros" my ass, nobody from the fanbase calls each other that other than shitposting or falseflagging

>> No.46590565

>>46590259
>She won't be able to do it again and even said so on stream you retard
Provide proof or you're a troon

>> No.46590569

>>46590348
Marine/Flare/Kanata/Lamy

>> No.46590577

>>46590343
It’s been pointed out many times that this makes absolutely no sense when merch has a 6-10 month lead time and Kanata and Suisei have released literal meme merch in the last few weeks
You can’t argue with the mentally ill hobos in the catalog

>> No.46590579

>>46590514
funny thing is that the only reason why # was doomposting earlier is because they saw this a mile away with stars

>> No.46590588

>>46590124
So 57% split between 1000 people and none of them have more than Cover's 43%? Then they don't are majority shareholders.

>> No.46590600

>>46590404
>Myth girls are currently pushing for a 3D live anniversary
Things would have to be pretty fucking grim for that to not get approved.

>> No.46590617

>>46589174
>it is a company wide move
as told by your pajeet manager nijishill?

>> No.46590636

>>46590404
He works there dumbass
>>46590514
/hlg/ reps

>> No.46590703

>>46590588
57 is higher than 43
Illiterate ESL

>> No.46590705

>>46590588
He’s wrong anyway, Cover employees own around 60% of all stock and he can’t actually read the thing he’s linking to

>> No.46590747

>>46590636
>He works there dumbass
and yet he had no clue about tempus debuting
weird innit

>> No.46590765

>>46590617
Because Rikka said it's company wide
Watch your own liver's streams for fuck's sake.

>> No.46590773

>>46590569
>source: I made it up

>> No.46590809

>>46590765
>liver
Caught the nijinigger

>> No.46590828

>>46590636
/hlg/ here retard and /hlg/ is a known nijinigger dumping site and raiding area. Legit posts during dead hours are ERPs, sharing porn, towaposting, IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENTs, and other retarded shit

other shit like like greennigger, marine schizo, and other schizo's posting in /hlg/ are all garbage coming from here

>> No.46590869

>>46590765
Rikka never said it was company wide anon the only thing he hinted was that it might affect stars which was what astel and ollie were hinting a few months ago

>> No.46590952

>>46590703
Unless one of the 1000 people who own part of that 57% owns 44% or more then none of them are majority shareholders. You don't need to have a business degree to understand this, you fucking retard.

>>46590747
Had no clue about Uproar, Tempus, and Tempus' collab ban lifting earlier than normal. These are the same kind of people who think everyone in Holopro goes out together when they're not streaming and are super close to each other.

>> No.46590991

350 replies and 80 posters wow nijiniggers in full force trying to make it about the girls as well

>> No.46591071

>>46590991
It's companywide.
Every Niji liver's merch are standardized. What makes you think it will be different with Holo? I await your cope.

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>>46590703
>>46590952
Actual Big 4 wagecuck here, sending this just to end the timeloop (ignore the colors otherwise you'll know what it is)

>> No.46591277

>>46591071
>if niji does it, cover does too
you are the one coping because of how shitty and low quality your merch is. congratulations though, the sharts are lumped in together with you

>> No.46591368

>>46591071
>Nijisanji: almost 200 members
>HoloPro: 75 members
Do I need to say more?

>> No.46591445

>>46587556
I care, my oshi is one of those 'low tier holos' you fucking faggot

>> No.46591447

>>46591071
Given how Cover phrased their noombers in presenting their charts, it seems unlikely they’ll go for a mirroring of Anykara’s sweatshop production line.

>> No.46591481

>>46587708
I'm inclined to believe Chloe will be the exception of the rule given how retardedly popular she is over at TikTok, but what do we know.

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>>46590765
>liver
Nijinigg detected

>> No.46591641

By-the-by, Mel is the warning sign here for if they will focus on lower numbers for any reason.

>> No.46591828

>>46590828
Still better than /hlgg/ btw

>> No.46592089

>>46590869
>Rikka never said it was company wide

No, but Astel did. But he may have been referring to the IPO bringing changes in general.

>> No.46592362

>>46590869
Astel hinted the entire company was going under a massive transformation months ago and all livers would be affected by them.

>> No.46592428

>>46591277
When hasn't Cover copied Anycolor from a business standpoint?

>> No.46592440

Wow, Nijisan finally had made a groundbreaking contribution and innovation to the industry: standardized merch for maximized mass produce and profit margin

>> No.46592503

>>46592440
Correct. It's shitty but profitable.
Cover following in those footsteps was inevitable the minute their IPO went south based on Yagoo's wording on merch comparisons.

>> No.46592664

>>46592428
since forever ago. the live 2d thing was not invented by nijisanji retard. Mito was the first 2d vtuber to become popular but a lot of other vtubers were using the tech, she was not the first. Hololive's streams , ideas, merch, collabs are so different from nijisanji apart from generic jap shit.

>> No.46592713

>>46590259
I swear you people can't fucking read. EVERYBODY will be getting standardized merch (think things like the Holofes stands and stuff) to add additional revenue. Said standardized merch WILL NOT be replacing the custom merch for birthdays and stuff which the girls mostly fund themselves.

It's an issue for Holostars because the company was partially funding their custom merch since the stars don't make a ton of money. The company will no longer be doing that so the Holostars will only mostly have the standardized merch that everybody is getting anyway.

>> No.46593036

>>46590828
>Legit posts during dead hours are ERPs, sharing porn, towaposting, IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENTs, and other retarded shit
sounds fun

>> No.46593077

>>46592362
Nobody uses "livers" outside of you retards, stop being so fucking obvious.

>> No.46593195

>>46592713
This sounds logical. The goal was to have standardized merch that is always up on the shop that you can buy whenevr you go there. The issue right now with the Hololive store (aside from overseas shipping, kek) is that so much of the merch has limited sales periods that there is nothing available when you go there. They want to have stuff that is always on sale that you can buy at any time. Everybody getting standardized merch does not mean the custom merch is going away. I feel a lot of this statement was lost in translation.

>> No.46593220

>>46590765
Honestly it would make sense for legal and morale reasons to apply the same benchmarks to holostars/hololive. There would be problems if Cover required different benchmarks between the branches. Still the fear mongering about the loss of custom merch for hololive isn't worth the effort since Mori's birthday will happen in 10 hours.

>> No.46594259

>>46592713
>It's an issue for Holostars because the company was partially funding their custom merch

Source: My dreams.

>> No.46594482

>>46588789
Im pretty sure yagoo, the cto and a-chan own more than half.

>> No.46594570

>>46583558
>implying they will come for holo jp before holo en
lol

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