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>>32513662VSPO has less popularity in the west than NijiJP
>>32513849Who in NijiJP is popular in the West?
>>32513802>September eventsHololive>1) Rust season 2 final day (multi povs)>3) Ayame anniversary (ayame ch)/ Botan new outfit>4) Choco anniversary (choco ch)>7) Sora anniversary (sora ch)>8) Botan birthday (botan ch)>9) Splatoon 3 release/Holocure update>12) Myth anniversary (ame ch)>13) Myth anniversary (ame ch)>16) Subaru anniversary (subaru ch)Nijisanji>1) Leos 3D challenge (rion ch)>4) Fuwa costume reveal (fuwa ch)>9) Splatoon 3 release>23) Niji horror drama (official ch)>28) Kuzuha day (kuzuha ch)>30) Nijifes fantasia (official ch)
>>32513666>but theres also many niji girls who beat themIf that's true then Vspo's median should be lower to Nijisanji, which isn't the case. Median addresses the problem of them having unequal number of members for comparison. Simply put, Vspo is ahead than Nijisanji.
If we lose and get eliminated than the divegrass tournament loses the only team that actually knows how to employ the bantz. The tournament will just be shitty and more boring because of it. The loss is on them, not us.
OK, a comment at the end of the last thread made me think: VSPO EN. Why the fuck not?
>>32513662>>32513849Maybe when NijiGamers is successful. They'll launch an EN branch full of FPS girls (It's your cue Ryeschizo) and throw them at them
The truth? The actual truth?It's actually very complicated. It has nothing to do with virtue signaling or whatever bullshit /pol/ has rotted your brain with. It's just capitalism. The short answer is that Hololive is a big fish in a small pond, while Nijisanji is a small fish in a big pond. Think outside vtubing. Companies like Holo and Niji want to grow beyond niche internet streaming and turn their business into something that can compete with like, anime and television as an industry. Hololive's continued growth requires breaking into new markets, which is very difficult for it to do in its current form.Hololive is undeniably the industry leader, but they've done so by associating themselves with idolfags and anime otaku, and pandering heavily to them. And that's been very lucrative for them, undeniably, but they've also reached saturation. How many more potential Hololive fans are you going to get from the kissless virgin demographic? I think just about everyone who could be a Hololive fan, is one, at this point. Or at least knows about them. And Hololive keeps them happy, but in doing so - keeping up the CGDCT atmosphere, doing idol shit, keeping genders segregated, etc - all this turns off normalfags and the twitch market. A much, much larger, more general audience that represents an untapped market. Corporations like Hololive are never content with what they have, they always want more. They always want their cake and to eat it too. But the twitch audience wants male collabs, they want to see the girls interact with men, they care about interesting content more than they do GFE. That's the difference between the idol crowd and the twitch crowd.Nijisanji has done a good job of gathering this crowd. They don't do as good of a job with the otaku crowd as Holo does - but they don't alienate the GFE fans either, that's key - despite what some dramafags on /vt/ will say, Niji has plenty of parasocial incels feeding akasupas as well and Selen worshippers or whatever. But at the same time, they normalize male collabs, stream with twitch streamers, and in doing so they break the barrier and introduce their vtubers to this twitch audience Hololive desperately wants. That's what Holo wants to copy. But at the same time, Hololive has kind of "spoiled" its idol fans - it's gotten them used to being waited on, hand and foot, and so there's this dilemma - Hololive made its name for pandering to idolfags, but in doing so it makes it impossible to grow into new markets.Tempus is a VERY measured and careful attempt to break into a new market. Barely collab with the girls, compared to what Niji does, and the idolfags still go wild and bully Kronii into taking a break. And this is why Holo struggles to enter the Twitch market. In the end, I don't care who's right or wrong or who's the cuck or who's the incel, but this is the truth - Hololive wants to grow, it doesn't JUST want to be a niche thing for idolfags and Otaku.
>>32513865Ars, but sadly her 3D debut mogged by Botan debut stream
list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi **places to end up for these girls include>NijisanjiEN wave 7 if dual wave with Iluna exists>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now>idol corp which had auds end at the end of July** RRAT: Aozora Kurumi is reincarnating into Indie vtuber Auregalia Aruri
>>32513849And in spite of it, Vspo has better CCV than NijiJP, which goes to show how the latter reclined/stagnated.
>>32513887
did marine said how much she paid for her new song, was it 100k or am i confusing it with other holo?
>>32513802/news/ roundup for 04-09-2022 >>32454855Recent clip numbers>>32441751 >>32441792 >>32441945 >>32441976
>>32513875soccer is not a true sport since you are not allowed to use your arms.
>>32513865>>32513884The point isn't to say that NijiJP is popular in the west but saying that VSPO barely has any presence here and no one knows them
Will VSPO EN pull a Tempus and surprises everyone?
>>32513842
>>32513865No one.
>>32513879>Western women>Good at vidyaPick one
Jesus Christ dramanigger & shitposter really THAT frustrated for yabs, huh?They are really going all out shitting up catalog, fucking faggot.
>>32513918Which is irrelevant to the argument because the argument is about someone asking over the popularity in the west for vspo.
>>32514000man that was a good streamalso checked
>>32513887I'll just assume this is a nijicope
>>32513849VSPO did well in managing its talents. Their girls don't get drowned out by their male collab partner which is quite different when a Niji female does it.
>>32513887Highest grossing japanese entertainment product is a waifu/husbando gacha game.Idol shit is the way to go.
>>32514016Monthly /news/ roundup for August 2022>>32425456Top 25 ccv vtuber streams of all time>>32425636August 2022 tables>>32379748
>>32513871Please, post a graph with only JP girls and VSPO and their median. VSPO girls obviously beat all 3view girls, except Toto who is almost on that level I guess, but otherwise many jp niji are above other vspo.
>>32514011You called?
>>32513934You were probably thinking about Matsuri. Marine never disclosed her expenses on her projects. The former was ranting about the cost because she only hires big names and can't do anything like writing music, lyrics, video editing etc.
>>32513984There's no good non-asian female gamer on the market so no.
>>32514047Are you guys retarded? Why the fuck are you making arguments against NijiJP? My only mention was to show that vspo is completely unknown, even more than NijiJP was and is.
>>32513802* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>87,145: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>76,937: Choco (Hololive)>37,932: Subaru (Hololive)>37,573: Miko (Hololive)>35,495: Korone (Hololive)>30,762: Gura (Hololive)>29,820: Ayame (Hololive)>25,263: Miko (Hololive)>24,944: Flare (Hololive)>22,792: Enna (Nijisanji)>20,443: Suisei (Hololive)>18,511: Botan (Hololive)>17,999: Mio (Hololive)>15,577: Vox (Nijisanji)>14,377: Tamaki (NoriPro)>14,061: Beni (VSPO)>13,866: Fubuki (Hololive)>13,675: Koyori (Hololive)>13,459: Luna (Hololive)>13,330: Nui (Nijisanji)>13,244: Okayu (Hololive)>12,407: Hayato (Nijisanji)>11,883: Met (774 Inc.)>11,879: Polka (Hololive)>11,600: Lamy (Hololive)>11,485: Kanae (Nijisanji)>10,843: Bae (Hololive)
>>32514069Even some vspo are 3view or am I confusing it with neoparte?
>>32514070Why is it always during SEA hour?
>>32513976And I'm saying that VSPO is literally Niji collab partners. It's basically guaranteed that they'll do the same strat and spam them at Selen and the others for collabs
>>32513802*YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY *>9/4 Daily Tally30,762: Gura (Hololive)22,792: Enna (Handcamsanji)15,605: Vox (Handcamsanji)10,779: Baelz (Hololive)9,525: Regis (Hololive)9,521: Mori (Hololive)9,204: Luca (Handcamsanji)6,973: Mumei (Hololive)6,683: Shu (Handcamsanji)6,145: Enna (Handcamsanji)5,638: Yugo (Handcamsanji)5,287: Noir (Hololive)>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR SEPTEMBER1. Gura (Hololive) - 15,128 (RUST)2. Yugo (Handcamsanji) - 21,274 (English Telephone Game)3. Noir (Hololive) - 14,791 (Boomer vs. Zoomer game w/Baelz)4. Gura (Hololive) - 30,762 (Gura's Big Brain Games w/Ollie, Kronii, Ina, IRyS, Mumei, and Baelz)>GOLD PER COMPANYHololive - 3Nochairsanji - 1Others - 0>GOLD PER STREAMER2x: Gura1x: Yugo, Noir>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)Gura: 10Yugo: 5Noir: 5Fauna: 3Mysta: 3Alban: 3Enna: 3Vox: 2IRyS: 1Amelia: 1
>>32514117Because selenfags are consisted of 50% seanigger and 50% chinks
Its so funny to see anons arguing about vspo being bigger than nijisanji in a year where they get two streams over 300k and like 3 or 4 over 200k. Its not comparable at all. Vspo events barely reach 30k. The highest vspo barely touches the highest nijisanji
>>32514097At very least I think you're right. VSPO haven't had their "nigger" or "Scatman" moment yet and I don't know they'll get a moment like that playing Apex and Valorant.
>>32514070Win a tourney first
>>32514170>koshien cope
>>32514069>otherwise many jp niji are above other vspoAgain, that's not true. There are a lot more Vspo talents higher than Nijisanji members rather than vice versa.
>>32514122Anon im merely talking about vspo popularity in the west. their clip presence in the english side is even below nijijpif they will do it or not idk, probably not, but thats not what i was talking about>>32514104yes they have two 3view, toto and a girl with black hair, forgot her name
>>32514181Hey niji had nigger moment twice and it backfired on them(Kanae drawing black gorilla(?) and Lauren rust)
>>32514209Please, post a graph showing that>>32514194Koshien as far as I know is streamed under Nijisanji. But even without that you could pick a lot more streams that are higher than VSPO. Nijisanji is closer to Hololive than VSPO is to nijisanji with their highs.
>>32514219Why is it cute when a Japanese girl did it, but racist when two Japanese guys did it?
>>32514219you see, you can't fly the rainbow flag and call vgori a ni**er with the hard gholos had literal nazi-gumi group. using the n-word is kind of expected
>>32513802>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)3. Mysta (Nochairsanji) - 16,007 (Genshin Impact)4. Mumei (Hololive) - 21,228 (Unarchived Karaoke)5. Mumei (Hololive) - 28,009 (Birthday Celebration and Call-ins)6. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,588 (Unarchived Karaoke)7. Ike (Nochairsanji) - 58,292 (700k subscribers karaoke celebration)8. Gura (Hololive) - 16,812 (Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)9. Vox (Nochairsanji) - 27,034 (NijiEN tier list w/Ren)10. Kronii (Hololive) - 14,179 (Minecraft)11. Gura (Hololive) - 22,754 (The Mortuary Assistant)12. Gura (Hololive) - 23,030 (Rust)13. Luca (Nochairsanji) - 25,830 (Koshien group B watch along)14. Elira (Nochairsanji) - 36,752 (Koshien finals watch along)15. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,717 (Minecraft)16. Fauna (Hololive) - 14,780 (Minecraft)17. Gura (Hololive) - 21,105 (Rust)18. Mysta (Nochairsanji) - 13,686 (Genshin Impact)19. Mumei (Hololive) - 13,483 (Rust)20. Amelia (Hololive) - 13,706 (Rust)21. Baelz (Hololive) - 21,713 (Urban Dictionary Game Show w/Gura, Mumei, and Kronii)22. Gura (Hololive) - 20,498 (Rust)23. Baelz (Hololive) - 36,453 (Council 1st Anniversary Celebration w/Kronii, Mumei, and Fauna)24. Kronii (Hololive) - 13,888 (Rewatching Debut)25. Petra (Nochairsanji) - 43,075 (New outfit reveal)26. Fauna (Hololive) - 19,467 (12 hour anniversary celebration)27. Rosemi (Nochairsanji) - 40,274 (New outfit Reveal)28. Petra (Nochairsanji) - 35,293 (Nochairsanji International Karaoke Relay)29. Gura (Hololive) - 21,728 (Minecraft Hololive Summer Festival)30. Selen (Nochairsanji) - 51,520 (New Outfit Reveal)31. Mori (Hololive) - 11,227 (Rust)>GOLD PER COMPANYHololive - 21Nochairsanji - 10Others - 0>GOLD PER STREAMER6x: Gura5x: Mumei3x: Baelz, Fauna2x: Mysta, Kronii, Petra1x: Ike, Vox, Luca, Elira, Amelia, Rosemi, Selen>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)Mumei: 33Gura: 30Fauna: 27Mysta: 26Baelz: 19Luca: 17Kronii: 12Vox: 12Shu: 10Petra: 10Mori: 10Elira: 9Ina: 8Ike: 8Rosemi: 8Selen: 8Amelia: 7Alban: 4Kiara: 4Noir: 3Ren: 3Yugo: 3Fulgur: 3Axel: 1Magni: 1IRyS: 1Pomu: 1
>>32514277The Nijis have the LGBTQ+ audience duh. Too had NijiJP is so isolated they don't care about burger pigs
>>32514122VSPO not stonewalling Hololive maximized the benefits of collabing with either group. I'd say it's a huge mistake for Nijisanji to alienate Holo's fandom that's why their female talents are lagging behind VSPO.
>>32514083oh you are right, thanks
>>32514277Women have a higher position on the internet pecking order
>>32514307**AUGUST TOTAL EN MEDAL COUNT**>Gold6x: Gura5x: Mumei3x: Baelz, Fauna2x: Mysta, Kronii, Petra1x: Ike, Vox, Luca, Elira, Amelia, Rosemi, Selen, MoriHoloEN: 21 GoldsNijiEN: 10 Golds>Silver5x: Mysta3x: Shu, Luca, Fauna2x: Mumei, Vox, Ina1x: Alban, Noir, Ike, Rosemi, Selen, Elira, Mori, Ren, Kiara, Yugo, FulgurHoloEN: 10 SilversNijiEN: 21 Silvers>Bronze4x: Baelz3x: Kronii, Luca, Fauna2x: Ina, Amelia, Mumei, Mori1x: Axel, Mysta, Alban, Kiara, Magni, IRyS, Shu, Pomu, Vox, EliraHoloEN: 22 BronzeNijiEN: 9 Bronze
>>32514256This is just the same argument about what constitutes popularity that always gets made between hololive and nijisanjiOne gets stupid numbers of tourists for big events, the other has much higher sustained everyday viewership. You could fairly say either is more popular depending on how you want to measure
>>32514277I think Miko got away with it because she sounds and behaves retarded. I don't know why the dudes would be hammered for being ignorant of such faux pas. Getting made at them for it is bug behaviour
>>32513887How's peko monkey by the way?
>>32514307Overall EN Medal count since tracking began>Gold51x: Gura23x: Mumei22x: Mysta, Vox11x: Mori10x: Baelz, Kronii8x: Fauna6x: Kiara5x: Ina4x: IRyS, Yugo, Ike, Luca, Amelia3x: Shu, Uki2x: Sana, Ren, Petra, Elira, Selen1x: Magni, Noir, Enna, Nina, Alban, Sara, Rosemi>Silver26x: Vox22x: Mysta18x: Mumei15x: Luca, Ina10x: Amelia, IRyS, Fauna9x: Gura, Shu, Mori8x: Baelz7x: Ike, Kiara4x: Kronii, Selen3x: Ren, Yugo2x: Regis, Uki, Sonny, Alban1x: Enna, Nina, Axel, Aster, Noir, Rosemi, Elira, Fulgur>Bronze28x: Mysta22x: Vox17x: Mori16x: Kronii, Ina14x: Luca12x: Baelz, Amelia11x: Mumei10x: Fauna8x: IRyS6x: Gura, Kiara5x: Ike, Fauna, Shu3x: Uki2x: Yugo, Petra, Alban, Magni1x: Selen, Sana, Fulgur, Aia, Axel, Pomu, Elira>HOLOLIVE136 Golds112 Silver116 Bronze364 TOTAL MEDALS>NIJISANJI74 Gold101 Silver88 Bronze263 TOTAL MEDALS>OTHERS1 Gold0 Silver0 Bronze1 TOTAL MEDAL
>>32513879>>32513984VSPO's whole appeal just wouldn't work in Englis. For starters there aren't enough good female gamers, there especially aren't any good female FPS gamers, and anime/vtubing aren't mainstream enough that they'd be able to attract any attention from the FPS crowd.
>>32514306I'm so going to bait Twittards by showing Manjigumi swastika symbol
These past few weeks>rubbing Lamy nipples and kissed her on her cheek >made korosan reading cute English and screaming from terrorNow thishttps://youtu.be/zryLA2VZ8H0She's trying to take our oshi bros
>>32514361 (me)Mad*
>>32514345>>32514335im still waiting for individual medians for vspo and female nijijp
>>32513842Fucking 5 goals from Kobo. Unreal.
>>32514337100k is too cheap anyway with that production value
BOTS VS BOTS WORLD
>>32514398>>rubbing Lamy nipples and kissed her on her cheekGod how I wish I could actually see that.
>>32514277Unironically because girls are cuter when they're retarded. No one wants to deal with retarded guys
>>32514345Hololive being more popular than nijisanji is obvious, even if Nijisanji is the only one who can compete with them.VSPO is a clear third place. They never even reach 100k. Not even counting how revenue wise vspo isnt in the same level as nijisanji
>>32513887Mucho texto, and it's basically a redditor rant about idol culture at thatMost of the most successful video games and anime are crammed full of pandering, and western normies either don't give a fuck about anime or actively hate it
>>32514421Sana line should graduate
>>32513984I just want cute chuubas who play competitive CS:GO
>>32514496A pipedream anon.
>>32514496All that but Apex. Take it or leave it
>>32514256>Nijisanji is closer to Hololive than VSPO is to nijisanji with their highs.This is a flat out lie. The only Holo grouping on par with Nijisanji is HoloID and both of them are on the same tier as Vspo. Hololive JP and EN are on another strata entirely.Where do you base your claims btw?
So, who are today's gold contenders?
>>32514535No. Fuck Apex. It's not a real FPS. If You can hold the mouse button and the gun barely moves with full auto fire it's not a fucking FPS. It's garbage.
>>32514562AyameLui collab, Kanata Uma Musume gacha, Marine
>>32514562I don't know if Niji has anything, but it's looking like Marine or Pekora, maybe Ayame if that collab performs better than expected.
>>32514476I don't think anyone here argues for Vspo on par with Nijisanji in terms of income.
>>32514571>Doom is not a real FPS
>>32514581>>32514600Slow day huh
>>32514614Kek. I guess FPS started from COD
>>32514639We've been too spoiled lately.
>>32514639No rust,3D or koshien so yeah
>>32514476Not saying Vspo is larger than Nijisanji, hell Hololive isn't even close to Nijisanji.But Vspo has consistently trumped Nijisanji in median.Perks of favouring quality over quantity I guess.
It's funny that Kanae's name becomes Kanye whenever I use Google Translate on holodex.
>>32514398Well, they are both girls. /u/ is just kayfabe.
>>32514219>>32514277>>32514734He gets a pass
>>32514545can you explain to me why this >>32514600 is a thing thenwhy no one says those things about vspo. why none of you care about them like this?
>>32514421>>32514493Replace Sana line with the paralympic gatekeeper / vod cope.
>>32514398God I wish I were Lui. Don't even care that I'd be the runt of my gen.
>>32514390Hard to say, anon. Most female vtubers are inherently gamers so talent pool is obviously not the limiting factor here. I can see VSPO achieve limited amount of success depending on how they position themselves with the collabs.
>>32514639HoloCure starting next weekend.
>>32514562The one with highest botted stream.
>>32514810Sure we do, we thought they would've had a chance the other day if it weren't for the fact they overlapped a 3D, an outfit reveal and a MariFure collab.
>>32514722This is once again a semantics argument about what popularity isIf you define it as average everyday viewership across the full roster: Hololive > VSPO > NijisanjiIf you define it as average everyday viewership amongst their strongest members only: Hololive > Nijisanji > VSPOIf you define it as peaks reached during events, or total daily viewership across all talents: Nijisanji > Hololive > VSPO
>>32514345You're right but no one is arguing for popularity anyway. We're just comparing their viewership numbers which I also find out somewhat surprising how VSPO has eclipsed Nijisanji in median.
>>32514867>This is once again a semantics argument about what popularity isI'm not arguing for that, anon. I'm just talking about CCVs which the other anons have posted in here.
>>32514867>If you define it as peaks reached during events, or total daily viewership across all talents: Nijisanji > Hololive > VSPOThis is new. Do you have the data to back it up?
>>32513887>Twitch audience Hololive desperately wants. That's what Holo wants to copy.Twitch streamers wish they had holo CCV. The main audience holos want in the west are anime-adjacent normalfags. Twitch is its own subculture and doesn't offer much beyond a bargaining piece against Susan
>>32513849has VSPO had any story arcs yet?
>>32514867I always wonder about Nijisanji's brand recognition in Japan. Do the koshienfags actually remember Nijisanji the brand or even the individual chuubas when they only tune in for a few days a year? I know we can't possibly know the answer to that question, but I do wonder.
>>32514924>>32514890so.. can you guys post vspo ccv median from last month? im asking this many times because i dont have it and im going from memory
>>32513802Cringe heel.
>>32514993Clearly. The anons here including me are threadniggers. Wait for primetime and hope Graph anon sees your request
>>32514867>If you define it as average everyday viewership amongst their strongest members only: Hololive > Nijisanji > VSPOIt's not just their strongest members only. Stop being biased lolHololive members get better daily viewership than Nijis
>>32513887Didn't read but I feel bad for it's effort. So I'll give it a (you)
>>32514948It's the exact opposite of new, it's the thing Niji fans have been using to argue that they're still more popular since 2020 - Koshien and how having so many channels means if you add them all together they usually have more total CCV during primetime
>>32514993Sorry anon, I don't have it and I'm not digging through archives for you. It gets posted regularly enough so I'm sure you'll see it eventually.
>>32514985They probably remember the word 'Nijisanji Koshien' and that it's held annually, the face of old man Maimoto and Tsukasa since they've been the MC for all the time, and Shiina since she's been in every iteration. Outside of that though probably not much.
Sub is almost always the most accurate number to gauge general popularity. If you want to talk popular then sub matter the most
so what's today gold contender?
>>32514277They only got shit for it because Kanae reacted.If he had ignored them like usual, it would'be been fine.
>>32515106So who is actually more popular now, Mr Beast or PewDiePie?
>>32515149T Series
>>32513879No market for them at the moment.HoloEN only started because there were a lot of people watching JPs, and some wanted chuubas who spoke English to eliminate the middlemen (translators).
Isn't Vox the current gold holder?
>>32514256We've come full circle. With how much capital and money anykara has from its investors and recent IPO, I can't believe they're not blowing out competition with their production value and merch.
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/15667139998357667865th anniversary stream up.
>>32515064No, anon, that's actually new. On top of my head, Hololive before has around 120k to 150k viewers on primetime, Nijisanji has around 60k to 80k. I don't have the data with me tho and I don't think anyone tracks that. Also Koshien is an annual event. Those events are always outliers.
>>32514456>CheekBoth made smacking sounds. How do you explain that?
>>32515213main channel debuff
>>32515213>WIth Nishikigoi as our special MC, we look back at hololive production’s amazing journey.>Cast: Motoaki Tanigo, Tokino Sora, Nishikigoi>Guests: Shirakami Fubuki, Anya Melfissa, Ninomae Ina’nis, Hakos Baelz, Arurandeisu, Yukoku Roberu, Axel Syrios.
>>32514993Chart anon will be able to supply better data, but at the end of the month:30d median peak: VSPO ~4300, NijiJP ~2500, HoloJP ~1210030d median: VSPO ~4000, NijiJP ~2500, HoloJP ~11900
>>32515149T-series and not even close
Kson incline baby
>>32515136Random Marine stream, random Ayame stream, or Random pekora stream. Dunno from nijisanji, I can't imagine someone pulling numbers without big events
A pretty good luck at the pecking order
>>32514993>>32515288
>>32515189>Gold with 25kOnly Pekora can manage such a feat. If push come to shove she can always snatch that gold by herself but I don't think she have to do that today
>>32513887> twitch audience wants male collabsWhat is this retardation? At no point has Cover in any official capacity pandered to the twitch audience.> turns off normalfagsPlenty of normalfags like CGDCT anime. Just look at how big of a fanbase K-On has in the west. Cover will have no issues expanding into that marketplace.Especially with the progressive degeneration of Western Women, there will more and more former normalfags looking for an escape from it all.Hell this is how the EOP surge in 2020 started off anyways. They slowly left because HoloEN started stagnating, but they're still out there and aware of Hololive.You can be sure they will tune in for EN3 debuts.
>>32515304Tell King to play Apex again.
>>32515285Holy shit. Axel on the hot seat already with those pillars wtf. And I'm glad it's Ina instead of fucking Mori, Bae is a staple choice
>>32515285>NishikigoiWho dat?
>>32515288I really don't understand why Vspo antis keep on denying about Vspo having better median than Nijisanji. This has been going on for months now.
YAGOOトワてぇてぇhttps://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1566714428657213443
>>32515285>Axel SyriosHe's finally inching closer to nodoka
>>32515288im not asking for the branch numbers, im asking for individual numbers
>>32513984If Rye is not in Hololive, a theoretical VSPO EN seems like a place she might go.
>>32515213https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000788.000030268.htmlHas a retweet campaign that will AI match you with a holo talent, the stream and a quiz website thing that you can win prizes by doing?
>>32515285ISREAL
>>32515334>King ApexHis Apex have been shit for a while now
>>32515314God that game is number poison
>>32515314New vspo girl is doing good already wtf. Vspo box real?
>>32515315Why separate NijiID and NijiKR from NijiJP?
>>32515316I really need to look up the numbers thread where Peko won gold with the yellow kart stream just to see the reactions
>>32515386literally her first weeks retard
>>32514867>If you define it as peaks reached during events>conveniently forgets 491k
Someone raided Kson stream on twitch 17K.
>>32515302Who raid it? She was at 3.8k before. It will be funny seeing the bleed
>>32515346https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/錦鯉_(お笑いコンビ)
>>32514639welcome to post-event numberrot cleansing month
>>32515285So, 4 japanese members - including 2 stars, 3 en members including one star. Shame no one from ID made the list
>>32515314Vspo has always been doing good. Some people just don't want to face the reality that they easily beat Nijisanji in median CCVs.
>>32514639Cooldown periodYou can't have events all day every day
>>32515358yowa...
>>32515213>September 7thSora's 3D live on the same day.
>>32515213Huh will they reveal some kind of roadmap in the stream? It has 'Coming soon' at the bottom when you select the 2022 timeline.
>>32515368Dunno what are the odds, but I got my oshi as a reply
>>32515433Ehhh, Sony music artists?
>>32515445kek
>>32515422It was a Connor raid, 23K stream. It's down to 10K.
>>32515433Ahhh the Oji-san Nousagi, neat.https://youtu.be/yR6bfSkWOiM
>>32515445> shame no one from ID made the listKek
>>32515463and yet you guys use vspo against nijisanji as ammo instead of seeing them as some competitor to holo.
>>32515433Are they big in Japan? They seem to ve a bigger deal than VAs
>>32515534VSPO like Hololive is specialised compared to the generalist Nijisanji.
>>32515575>Are theyThey are. The only thing bigger than VA in Japan is unironically comedians
all 5 council members are here
>>32515475EN3
>>32515534VSPO's niche only slightly overlaps with Aqua and Botan and even then...
>>32515351It's arguable anon. VSPO doesn't have Vox Akuma's, Mysterio, Fuwa, Chin-man, Salome that can consistently pull 10k. Biggest VSPO right now I think is nose...
>>32515604Each year shows the members who debuted in that year
>>32515393It helps keeping track on the evolution of those former branches, and helps keeping track on the evolution of the main branch.I could add a row with the combined branches but it adds no insight
>>32515534Stop being biased for once. Vspo directly competes with Nijisanji. I hope you don't disagree with me here. The Holo that's close to Vspo in terms of content is Towa and Matsuri. Basically as a group, Hololive has a very different content and targets different demographic that's why we don't compare to two groups together.
>>32515606doubt it. more chance of JP7 or ID4.
>>32515626Well...
>>32515618>VSPO's niche>BotanYou surely mean Towa. Botan stays clear away from anything FPS, the only thing that connects her to it is her reputation
>>32515626Even makes a distinction on when they adopted Miko. hmm
>>32515575They sure are. The duo also won the best comedian title at the beginning of the year.https://youtu.be/aC85ekylp2Y
>>32515626Hitomi Chris...
>>32515662Was more thinking competent gameplay, but I guess you're right.
>>32515619I thought we were comparing the girls? Almost all of them are shitters
There's 15 Nijisanji channels before a VSPO appearif female, you have toko, ange, lize, sasaki and salome above all vspothen nui, shiina, furen, hoshikawa, Ars, Chihiro,Ratna and many other female above other vspo as well..
>>32513849If vspo has an EN branch, I don't want rye and her sister to be in it....
>>32515626Can you imagine 2019 Hololive? Debuting Sankisei and the first Holostar gen, unaware that they will completely changed the company 3 years into the future
>>32515626Chris-chan, my oshii...
kek, this raid reminds me of the NijiEN ones.>3.8k to 17k to 9k
>>32515660Aloe Vera...
>>32515618>>32515636im literally not talking about niche but how you guys talk so much about nijisanji and barely about vspo. not even you guys act like vspo is second but third.
>>32515627Nijisanji aka NijiJP was once composed of different boxes pre 2022 merger. Why not split them then? Seeds, Gamers are fairly huge groupings too. Also ID and KR are both being promoted on the main branch.
>>32515715lmao
>>32515715And Vshitshow cucks will tell us they are a direct competitor to Hololive lmao
>>32515754>Tfw Pekora anniversary and Nazuna anniversary will be on the same day every yearYeah they are direct competitor alright
>>32515626the joke is Sana isn't there it's IRyS
>>32515714Xe just escaped prison fren you still have a chance
>>32515604Now THAT is Council!
>>32515285Why Ina and not Kiara?
>>32514867>Niji wins daily averagesNiji can't even have a 100k total CCV during primetime without an event. But holos just need to stream to get that total number. Nijiniggers getting cocky again.
>>32515715ame raid on robocosan for comparison
>>32515715Jesas christ. This is why we ditched Twitch tally
>>32515445Kneel
>>32515786Joke?
>>32515810Does the holobox somewhat affect twitch too?
>>32515795chicken voice
>>32515660What the fuck. Where's ID2? They debut on December 2020
>>32515715This is the biggest EN competitor of Hololive? The one who dissed even Anykara for being corpo?
>>32515754They're not even streaming on the same platform...
>>32515837seems like it. this was pretty late for NA too.
>>32515841They're split between the top and bottom of the page based on debut order, myth and ID2 are at the bottom of 2020
>>32515841
>>32515810Holobox transcends platforms wtf. Twitch andys unironically watched a Jap stream
>>32515660>>32515604Officially hololive.
>>32515795Muh idol.
Where's my comedian MC riku?
>>32515875Oh, 2020 has the most terminated Holos
>>32514181OreApo
>>32515890was kinda a mix of jp, kr and na watchers. some of the kr stayed around for a while surprisingly
>>32515701thanks, thats what i wanted and what i mean. vspo is above many niji girls but many niji girls are also above many vspo:SalomeLizeTokoAngeSasaki>Hinano>Ema>IchinoseNuiShiinaFurenArsHoshikawa>RamuneChihiroRatna>Runa>Sumire>NekotaHayase>Noah>Lisa>BeniChimaAmamiyaHayamaSango>MimiYorumi>NazunaPontoEluNaraka>Asumi SenaUtakoLuis cammyHimawariMaoYotsuha>QpiGundoSister ClaireRionKaedeChigusaLainMahiroLeviRirimuTamaki>KisaragiRinKarutaHayaseTomoeNatsume>TotoThen after Toto she's above all the other nijijp girls, but otherwsie, thats how it is and it shows how vspo and niji girls compare and how some are above others in median
>>32515715Who raided Kson? Mouse?
>>32514181VSPO has towa
>>32515965Isegye audience who started from Myth worship I presume
>>32514181They had "the angry gamer girl"
>>32515285nice, still not gonna watch homos kekI rather watch any manjisanji than those boring dudes
>>32515981Ponto being above 4 vspo and Yotsuha being above 3 vspo is a surprise to me. guess ranunculus didnt do that bad outside of the red
>>32516005That's just every female vtuber
https://twitter.com/comptiq/status/1566651726270431234
>>32516005That's nose. But newfags unironi know her as another Niji
>>32516042>Daisenpai>Botan>Anyer
>>32515981Noah is declining after her yab?
>>32515881ID2 and ID3 need a new default advertise art.
>>32515701Here, to help you guys to make your case> NijiJP girls vs. VSPO, median of peak CCV; Jan to Aug 2022Power ranking for 2022 as a whole would be1) Salome2) Top NijiJP girls3) Nose4) Mid-top NijiJP girls5) Top VSPO girls6) Mid NijiJP girls7) Mid VSPO girls8) Mid bottom NijiJP girls9) Bottom VSPO girls10) Bottom NIjiJP girls
>>32516071They're not female
>>32516055i mean, yeah, nose is one of those even in japan where they think shes a niji because of her collabs with kanae
>>32516045Uoooooooh Lapu-chama ToT
>>32516084They need 3D first.
>>32516084They don't have 3D yet. Same with IRyS and Council
>>32516100should we class VSPO golds as niji golds if that's the case?
>>32516085More on that, NijiJP girls make for >9 out of the top 10>13 out of the top 20>19 out of the top 30 The problem for NijiJP tho is that VSPO was never supposed to be this strong in comparison, it has the same "vibe" as Niji vs. Holo in 2019 with Holos establishing themselves in a "blind spot" niche and gaining on Nijis, uncontested
>>32516155
>>32516085thank you, i did it already but its going to be useful anyway>>32515981my point is less that vspo isnt above niji jp girls. they are. my point ist that theres also many niji jp girls who are above others when looking at those listsgirls seen as failure here like ponto are above qpi and sena. then you have Nui, Shiina, Furen, Ars, Hoshikawa, Chihiro and Ratna above Tsuna, Noah, Runa, Sumire and Beni.
>>32516170VSPO is the final nail on Nijigirl coffin. That's why Bora was smart in jumping ship kinda like Luna.
>>32516199>i did it alreadyThis table is new, it's from January 2022 to August 2022, you can see by the fact Mito is represented there.The one anon posted is just for August 2022
>>32516085Are you graph anon? Ty
>>32516208She should be next right bros?
>>32516208Bora's numbers on VSPO are literally on a similar range as she had when she was on KR. You act as if she was unpopular when she had a median of 4k-3k, which came from her PL to her new account
>>32516249Mito and Nui next.Honhima graduating would give legitimacy to the Axia rrat
>>32516249Pekora is giving all of her attention to Koyori atm so she got no chance
>>32516249No. No more nijis. Luna is only acceptable because she got out of there quickly enough and because she was clearly mistreated there. I WILL anti any other niji that makes the jump if it comes to that.
>>32516249Fuck her. Left unscathed after Axia's career turned to cinders. Who would want a liability of a slut like her?
>>32516274>Bora>4k medianproof next thread?
>>32516244true thanks for that. this guy already made my point anyway >>32516170
>>32516274>PLkill yourself
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1566723192638410752Hololive underestimating Hololive's popularity
gold?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVSEJ_Qs2Gk
>>32516295lol you guys still with those retarded rrats about nui and mito>>32516320>similar range>4k-3kim obviously talking about it because she had similar numbers and im not sure, thats why range
>>32516340*sigh* name a better duo. Even their talents have the same mindset
>>32516340Hololive and underestimating things, name a better duo.
>>32516340nah, they just intentionally set the bot up so that it would be overloaded. it's kind of like when they intentionally understock merch and it sells out quickly. it's all about the illusion of popularity.
>>32516351thats not hololive 5th anniversary..hololive only began as an agency in 2018. sora debuted as part of cover
>>32516368Again, proof next thread?Bora's median outside of APEX tourney season was around 2k
>>32516393Hololive as trademark started in 2017 tho, granted at that time Hololive was just the app name and not the production agency.
So what's Hololive 5th anniversary about? Why are there so many non-JP talents?
>>32516444Seem like "Taking a look back to the journey"Maybe they will go into details about their thoughts and ideas behind all of their decisions
>>32516444This is the expansion of Hololive to Multimedia.
>>32516444EN3 announcement
>>32516396you dont think 2k and 4k is close?
I cant stop looking at luxiem sisters on twitter on anime impact. i want to fuck that bunny mystahttps://twitter.com/Nijisanjiluvbot/status/1566654055241330688/photo/2
>>32516444Yagoo insisted that the Holostars take part in it so the only girl that decided to show up was Fubuki.
>>32516506No, regis is 2k shitter instead of successful 4k magni
>>32516506>/#/ thread> can't into numberEvery time
>>32516506I think that Bora was mainly buffed by Towa.
>>32516503I wish that were true. They'll recount everything about EN from the past years, and drop a big teaser MV about EN 3. FUK GIVE ME KINO COVER
>>325165064k is 2 times 2k
>>32516084Alas, until their 3d debut they're stuck with 'le default pose'. Same with Council.
>>32516249Yes please.
>>32516563>past>present>future
>>32516563Ok
So what if>3rd gen miracle work and EN3 is a successful group>EN3 is another bunch of mediocre talents like Council
>>32516546>>32516567well i said 3k-4k for a reason, i wasnt sure on that. anyway point is, bora was already popular, she just got a bit more. she wasnt a 3view and became a 4k streamer
>>32516393I've said before, there's half a dozen dates you could pick that would be equally valid as the start of "hololive", but Sora's first stream is the least confusing/silly oneThe rest are things like when their app nobody cared about came out, when gen 1 auditions opened, or Mel's debut
>>32516563Cover hasn't said a single word about EN3. What makes you think that it's even a possibility?
>>32516249Same day that Matsuri joins Nijisanji
>>32516531Oh isn't this the event where they pay $75 for a 1 minute meet n greet with Luxiem? It's today?
>>32516543>Daisenpai>InaTry again unicuck
>>32516506Depends on the scale.On a scale of 1 to 1 million, eh, sure they're 'relatively close'.On anything that doesn't scale the difference between to sub 1%? Get outta here not even close.
>>32516531all nijien cosplays on the eventhttps://twitter.com/Nijisanjiluvbot/status/1566638195374055424?s=20&t=m0xsCI-Rxd9VBBK3l69czA
>>32516588NTA but thank you for reminding me that it's good and I should watch it again
>>32516619No one cares anon, it's not the cosplay thread
>>32516593Anon? Bora was a 3view up until she pandered to JP.
>>32516599What are you going to do with your time when EN3 gets announcedI assume take a short vacation then start posting this about EN4
>>32516593Anon, just stop.
>>32516619Jesus, it has more people than AX Hololive meetup. How did Hololive recline so much in NA?
>>32516608?Ina isn't JP. Sora is the main cast not a guest and she already calls into Holostar streams so I don't get your point.
>>32516619>>32516531Some of them are fine as hell. But this is the number thread so, numbers ?
>>32516595to me hololive debut is in 2018. There's no hololive as an agency even with just sora or even roboco.
>>32516653>when EN3 gets announcedutterly delusional
>>32516531>>32516619Just post pictures faggot. Cosplay of the girl ENs preferably rather than Genderbent Luxiem
>>32516650anon, bora has been speaking jp for most of her career in Niji, same as the other KR. it wasnt a thing that began with the merge, it has been going on since 2020
>>32516674It's clearly meant to be an anniversary of the company's vtuber activities, which started with Sora
>>32516619>no chairsAs expected of Nochairsanji
>>32516703the en girls look like tranny while luxiem genderbent look great, what can i do..
When did the whole "HoloEN3 never coming" start?
>>32516531SEGGGGGSSS Damm that's hot
>>32516666How about you read your own post again >>32516543Beside that anon >>32516444 never said JP girls so his point is moot because they got exactly 4 JP talents and 4 ID & EN talents
>>32516723well about that
>>32516743it's just a nutcase samefagging
>>32516730That's sad jesus
>>32516703Anon, they're all whales
>>32516301Pekora hates Koyori with passion
>>32516757Don't care
>>32516766>A small number of chairs in a segregated area with the rest standingWell, it's an upgrade
>>32516650Bora was 3view until she started sucking Towa's bananaftfy
>>32516674It's the anniversary of Hololive as a whole, including their time as L2D app company
>>32516766Will Hololive ever attract sucha big crowd like this?
>>32516797k
>>32516766with this, can we stop pretending that holoEN is more popular than nijiEN in the west?
gura killer
>>32516766>few chairsInclining? This is what happens when you try maximizing profits. No wonder Nijiniggers are always seething. They don't have comfy chairs like Holochads
It's that time of the day huh?let me get my bugspray
>>32516858That's still a smaller crowd than Kiara specifically drew in Germany anon
>>32516858With that size? lol
>>32516730>>32516787Why do I even bother... Myth and the JP girls get all the hot nsfw cosplayers. Can't have Enna's ass irl
>>32516896Looks like its smaller than the KR restaurant line too
>>32516766less than 100 chairs kek
>>32516910Even AX Niji cosplayers were better than this , and they got wide Pomu and fungus for fuck's sake
35k https://youtu.be/kKxupkIDxug
Es un cerdo
More clip numbers.Miko(7->1) in first with FFX/Among Us. Kobo(3->2) with Valorant/zatsu. Gura(11->3) with Bigbrain/Rust(old). Lamy(18->7) with Among Us. Suisei(13->8) with Among Us/zatsu. Everyone else is coasting on yesterday's clips.Good performances by Choco(58->12) with 3D Live, Baelz(21->14) with wife yeet, Mori(26->18) with zatsu/Rust, Kiara(49->24) with beads, Mio(44->27) with EDF, Noel(39->28) with zatsu/3D, Nene(41->29) with zatsu/Among Us, Mumei(61->31) with drawing, Regis(90->40) with Valorant, Rion(77->41) with a viral clip (8Tsub_Wg61Q, +181k/3).Split today is 17.8M(-1.7M) HL to 9.6M(-1.2M) NJ.
>>32516766>At most 200 peopleHoly incline it's like 1/3 of Aia and Finana ccv.
>>32517082MAGLORD NO
absolutely illegal!
>>32517088Graph.
For a niji only event with hundreds paying for a meet and greet, that's a really small convention
>>32517082AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE. Thank God Maglord has Rio now
>>32517082selen cosplay when ? she can replicate a 1:1 size
>>32517082Mama Mia
>>32517178Not wide enough for Selen
>>32517053Glad you still here ryeshizo
>>32516590>EN3 is another bunch of mediocre talents like Council and MythFixed that for you.
>>32517082>>32517189
>>32517189More fit than Fungus
More clip numbers, recent only (<2 Days). Other here >>32517088Miko(17->1) with Among Us, Choco(45->2) with 3D Live, Gura(12->3) with Bigbrain, Lamy(32->4) with Among Us, Kobo(6->5) with zatsu/Valorant.Botan(4->6), Fubuki(2->9) and Polka(7->10) with old clips. Baelz(18->7) yeets her wife, and Suisei(26->8) with Among Us. A good incline by EN from yesterday.Split today is 7.5M(-940k) HL to 2.4M(-280k) NJ.
>>32517189>>32517082Why are they posing in front of a chain linked fence?
Are NIjiEN female viewers that....disgusting? HoloEN female viewers are miles better.
>>32517252Graph.
>>32517189Slim Selens
>>32517244That's like, what? 1/3 of fungus combined?
>>32517261Nijiniggers needs to be locked behind bars anon. It's a special treatment from the con for them
>>32516199>my point is less that vspo isnt above niji jp girls. they are. my point ist that theres also many niji jp girls who are above others when looking at those lists>girls seen as failure here like ponto are above qpi and sena.I think you are missing the point some are making because you are focusing on the ones saying >VSPO is mogging NijiJPHere is a chart that can help shedding some light on what some anons are talking.>pic relatedIt has>VSPO>HoloID>NijiEN girls>NijiJP top 16 girls per 2022 median (Salome, Lize, Mito, Ange, Toko, Sasaki, Furen, Nui, Chihiro, Hoshikawa, Ratna, Ars, Shiina, Hakase, Amamiya and Chima)There are some things that can be clearly seen1) NijiJP girls top are "spinning their wheels", inclining from special event to special event, only to recline massively in the "mid seasons".And even that incline was significantly more modest than the one in 2021 (out of which there is still record for the tail end) 2) VSPO is inclining considerably and consistently. Their late 2021 was already displaying an incline, when their collective median rose above 2k and then after the end of CCVID their incline is massive and seemingly without breaks.3) HoloID for context. Even with the massive incline brought by HoloFes, ID3 and RUST meta, they are unable to match what VSPO is doing right now4) NijiEN girls. The growth of their original girls only waves is masked by the addition of three poor performers but that is not the only cause for that drop IMO with even Finana and Reimu relapsing to 3 digits.All in all the point is that most of these NijiJP girls (all but Salome having debuted in early 2020 or 2019?) are spinning their wheels, Nijisanji is unable to grow their female streamers and, like Hololive in 2019, VSPO is in a good pace to overtake them and eat a good part of their market>cute girls doing cute girls and playing FPS, sometimes with boys
Nochairsanji
>>32517252>gen 5 can't even beat Kobo and Gura with a big Among Us collabGrim, why do they have so little mind share?
>>32517379Where is this event anyway?
>>32517379
>>32517379This is just sad, imagine paying hundreds of dollar to attend your oshi meet and greet and this is what you get?
>>32517369I suppose if you stretch it back to 2020 the top nijiJP girls would still be in the 5k - 6k range?
>>32517393LA I think
>>32517379better than anything hololive could get
I still can't get by how we lost to kobo tempest
The other member of the Famitsu column was aki, not fubukihttps://twitter.com/famitsu/status/1566724125413912576
>>32517431I wish I had the data but that colored picture with the niji streamers split in 10k+, 5k-10k etc used to have more 10k+ girls (Lulu? Gibara? Honma?)
Will you fuck Vox now #?
>>32517473Mori got a more impressive setup as not!Mori.
>>32516766>no bird's view angleWhy can't they gather crowds as big as Council's? That Holo cafe collab in KR had more participants than these.
>>32517494Unironically would
>>32517494ToT
>>32517486So they got 2 gamer girls and 2 normies, huh
>>32517523Stop being that desperate anon
>Ez 20k for PPTEver since she left Kson, she's been streaming buff content. Will she become another Subaru?
>>32517379>Males queueing for Luxiem m&gAre they gay?
Doesn't this event look cheap compared to CRX and even Otakuthon?
>>32517494
>>32517494FAT
>>32517546it's one of the biggest anime cons in the west.
>>32517536Now this is good stuff
>>32517541I will say something that people that get, get>fat chicks with big tits are very good in the sack
Kanata is probably gonna take the lead position for the day soon, she's doing really well.
>>32517536Bomu
>>32517545No. They stay outside and wait while their gf sucking Milord cock in the booth
>>32517585vox is the top dog. his karaoke is the biggest thing ever and it will NOT slip.
>>32517585>the lead positionI don't know about that but she's seriously positioning for the "tag in" position for the first army when Aqua is out of commission
>>32517559>biggest anime con in the westI can't find a single news or blog post about their attendance number.
>>32516766Is that it for the whole of NijiEN???Grim......I would swear that many of them will go to Hololive conventions as well
>>32517601Why are nijifans so brown...
All this holocope all hololive fans look the same exactly the same. Nerdy asian while Luxiem has an more diverse fanbase I see everybody from white, asian, black to even indian cosplayers for nijisanji.Plus in size anime impluse is in an bigger place then crunchyroll expo.
>>32517569I prefer women I can hug, but more power to you anon.
>>32517601
>>32513887You can summarize this shit paragraphs as HoloEN stagnating because it wants to go beyond the Idol culture.Faggots Eye view is about HoloEN and neglecting the fact that the Main Branch is still going with no visible clue of stopping.>And as if Anime and Otaku culture are different for vtubing culture>Are you telling me that the anime fans are a bunch of normies?>KYS man
>>32517630With "lead position" I meant pass Vox and be first in the daily tally until someone else streams. Might have been able to word it better.
>>32517369Nijisanji has stagnated. They weren't able to keep up with the Vtuber market growth.
>>32517688Oh!
https://youtu.be/o6nZ1BfGiXMHaachama wants to return to being an idol and stop doing wacky shit.Is this a good idea for her or no?
>>32517744Weekly karaoke + minecraft is enough. She should just focus on studying during weekdays.
>>32517744It's pretty played out at this point and her core fanbase will watch her do anything anyway
>>32517744You're not haaton are you?Chammer has said this multiple times in the past as well
>>32517679Unironically. The Luxiem sisters look okay but the others are trannies or landwhales especially the EN girls
As expected, peko goes for the DQM clear stream. Marine gold I guess?
>>32517659I am Indian, and even ppl living in slums in India have better class than your Luxiem
Kanata current gold
>>32517744split personality arc is forever
>>32517688Did Vox only get 25k for his unarchived Karaoke? Didn't his first one get like 75k or whatever he said?
MILORD MOGGED BY HORSEPUSSY>MILORD MOGGED BY HORSEPUSSYMILORD MOGGED BY HORSEPUSSY>MILORD MOGGED BY HORSEPUSSYMILORD MOGGED BY HORSEPUSSY>MILORD MOGGED BY HORSEPUSSY
>>32517744It depends. Her content right now is too forced so being a normie vtuber may just push her back to top spot.
>>32517536Now, that i think about it.. with the amount of shitflinging on NijiEN itt... Surprisingly, no one use petra for shitposting, what's kinda content she have? I always thought she is a nijiAnya
>>32517545yes unironically. Gay or tranny or Bi trending gay.
>>32517824I mean, even Cover acknowledges it on their SSS MV.
And there it is, when was the last time we got Kanata lewds anyway? her new outfit, I'm guessing?
>>32517857The relationship between Cover and Hachama has always been weird.
>>32517832Think it got like 50k with the weirdest fucking graph. But yea it massively underperformed and he ended after 45 minutes.
>>32517868She's not gonna get it. Actual contenders are Marine, Pekora and Ayame
>>32517811even with dqm she can still mog vox
>>32517744>next stream>planet gummy eating sound ASMRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aefNLRojRA4
>>32517879Cover sends their newest managerial recruits to haachama first, and whoever managed to last a month gets promoted.
>>32517868I always forgot how strong is gacha buff compared to Rust buff
>>32517895Yea probably, but a man can dream.
Aqua Sololive at 9/28https://youtu.be/BYTP2oLr59Q
>>32516340I don't think it's their fault this time, too many people retweeted so that many @ replies very likely triggered twitter bot detection and shut it down.
>>32517744She has always said she'd stop but keeps on going back to her gimmick. Her school gave her the opportunity to cut back on it but she goes back and does cooking shit again. A variety is fine at least like that lingerie showcase
>>32517895>Pekora>DQ Monsterslolno
>>32517934Anon, that's probably BD sales
>>32516085Niji in shambles, vspo thriving
>>32517934KUZUHA DAY BTFO
>>32517894He mentioned it "actually had like 75k" on his numbers rant. Hopefully this doesn't make him go menhera again
>>32517934retardchama...
>>32517899She's having a second thoughthttps://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1566688919344664577
>>32517934That's the BD release date. https://bushiroad-music.com/musics/hoxb-10008It's 6000 yen + tax and includes some merch.
>>32517854She is literally Anya therefore exempt from shitposting. >>32517842>>32517824
>>32517724>They weren't able to keep up with the Vtuber market growth.That's the thing: they did, only not for their girls.Here is another table> 2022 Jan to Aug, median of peaks, boys onlyYou don't need to go as far as the Top 50 to see that, at very least for boy vtubers, they achieved>Nijisanjificationof the market.Out of the top 50 (tracked) boys>38 are from Nijisanji (including all of NijiEN, even iLUNA)>1 is NoriPro (Tamaki, heh)>2 are NeoPorte (Hal and Reid)>5 are Indies (Gatchman, NeruMero, Peanuts-kun, Genshin Mosu and Tsukasa Tenkai)And then there are the Tempus boys, but it is too soon to see if they are going to remain in the top 50.Right now the market is split in two halfs>Nijisanji controls the boys market, with some trying to nibble at their crumbs >Hololive controls the girls market, with some trying to nibble at their crumbs
>>32517977Kek. RIP diet vtuber dreams if she does that
>>32517992Seems to be a paper stand.
>>32517053
>>32517894>he ended after 45 minutesLmao, dont tell me he went full menhera
>>32517788is she a numberfag?
>>32518057He was bleeding viewers and then he suddenly said he didn't prepare a lot for his setlist
>>32518026Aqua my beloved
>>32518057Nah, that was back in April I think.He ended it early because even chink kindreds were roasting him for how bad he was.Dude can't sing for shit.
>>32518083Nah
>>32517494architectbros...
>>32517744>Haachama>stop doing wacky shit.>>32517788>You're not haaton are you?>Chammer has said this multiple times in the past as wellkek, absolutely thisShe is trying to stop doing wacky stuff ever since the Wacky MMD chuuni arc.She is always talking about how chuuni she was "in the past">Haachama Talks About Her Chuunibyou Dayshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcuQIRjrADc>Haachama talking about her Chuuni past in grade school and acting like a princess at Disneylandhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgOYOLHfb1w&t=6sShe's trying to grow out of her chuuni behaviour for what, a decade now?
>>32518142A decade ago she's not even old enough to attend middle school...
>>32518142No wonder she got bullied everywhere
>>32518088I wonder if he felt he was at the top of the world when fujo was pumping his numbers? Did he feel like he was the 2nd coming of Kuzuha for EN side?
>>32518131His Spore abomination said otherwise
>>32517744It's over for her isn't it?
>>32518204He was some 2views VA/streamer before Niji. Anybody in his position around April would be on fucking cloud 9
>>32518229Nope, she can just integrate herself back into the holobox. She'll be fine.
>>32518131Damn. he just made 1million chinks wet.
>>32518229>Numberfagging about fucking HaachamaNewfag-chama...
>>32518229Matsuri managed to come back into the box, so nothing is impossible.
>>32514103Hololive slipped? Lmao
>>32518211
>>32517744>>32518142
>>32518284Pooh should thank Vox personally for solving the drought crisis in China
>>32518018>Hololive controls the girls market, with some trying to nibble at their crumbsGiven that Nijisanji suddenly stopped being able to produce 6k median female streamers in 2020 and beyond (coinciding with Holo's rapid rise, and obviously Salome aside) that certainly seems to be proven. With the boys' market it's more that Nijisanji had a stranglehold from the start and Holopro was just unable to break it, but with the girls' market it seems that potential viewers started turning towards hololive for female streamers and never looked back.
>>32518266He should have realised his numbers was not sustainable. He was literally pandering to a main audience that doesn't understand him.
>>32518204Meanwhile Kuzuha didn't even bother with a fancy 1M celebration and just boots up overnight Apex.
Well Kanata isn't going to get 30k before Marine starts but she put up good numbers.
>>32518083>is she a numberfag?Anon, Haachama purged some 7 generations of Haaton for no reason other than wanting to do what she wants with zero regards for numbers.Haachama is the proverbial elephant in the "Blind men and an elephant" parable>A group of blind men heard that a strange animal, called an elephant, had been brought to the town, but none of them were aware of its shape and form.>Out of curiosity, they said: "We must inspect and know it by touch, of which we are capable".>So, they sought it out, and when they found it they groped about it.>The first person, whose hand landed on the trunk, said, "This being is like a thick snake".>For another one whose hand reached its ear, it seemed like a kind of fan.>As for another person, whose hand was upon its leg, said, the elephant is a pillar like a tree-trunk.>The blind man who placed his hand upon its side said the elephant, "is a wall".>Another who felt its tail, described it as a rope.>The last felt its tusk, stating the elephant is that which is hard, smooth and like a spear.If you ask a Haaton from 2018 to describe Haachama, one from early 2019, one from early 2020, one from mid 2020, one from 2020 after chinkout, one from early 2021 pre schizo arc, one from post return from hiatus and one from 2022>describe how Haachama streams areEach of them will give you a completely different answer, always prefaced by>I don't know what she's doing now, but when I used to watch her regularly...Haachama is Haachama and that doesn't bring a lot of numbers>except when it doesPic related has Haachama between her infamous KFC ASMR stream and her post schizo arc hiatus, with the "finale" (it was not really a finale) getting a 73k+ peakhttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/LTcpdUrF4iMIt is hard to imagine a non event non tournament unplanned improvised stream getting 73k at any point, both back then and nowadays>and she did it without caring about numbers
Lamy started 10 minutes just to rant about twitter antis in public
Marine Horror streamGuess we know where gold is going.
>>32517868Vox reclined hard huh
>>32518366Kuzuha's mindset is the correct one. He literally only wants to do 1 thing. Play games as a job and have fun doing it
>>32518353That's not on him, that's on Paul Li.They literally milked so many buffs content dry.
>aqua doing another liveso she can disappoint us a 2nd time? no thanks.
>>32518399She disabled the fucking SC on her channel for more than half a year for god sake.Haachama is nowhere near a numberfag.
>>3251840510 minutes early*
>>32518411Comparing how they respectively dealt with the Rindou-Kuzuha problem and the Reimu-Vox problem is pretty funny, kek.
>>32518405These girls, for fuck sake, ignore and scroll past.What is she complaining about
>>32518405thats going to get clipped and taken out of context
>>32517946If she goes against Estark she can reach 30k easily, retardchama...
>>32518405based lol
koyori really inclined to be botan-tier, huh
>>32518444To be fair, unicorns/yumejos are never a big part of Niji JP fanbase, unlike Vox and his volatile chink kindreds.Chronoir aside, I think Kuzuha fanbase is mostly male.
>>32518455Twitter circles. You can invite anyone to it, even if they aren't following you, and whatever you tweet to them will appear in their feed. It's not visible to anyone outside the circle so you don't have to be afraid you'll get attacked by a streamer's fans for directly shitting on them to their face unless they screenshot it to be shared.
>>32518411>Play games as a jobkek, not even that. He wants to play games.People pay him to do it on a live stream which he does, without even caring about putting a thumbnail other than the default one, and also without putting a waiting room most of the times.Sometimes he starts playing, then remembers he has to live stream it and put his stream up>giving birth to the original "illegal view funneling"Kuzuha is the poster boy of "if you do something well enough people will watch"
>>32518405Ah so she's next on the catalog shitpost then
>>32518399Yeah but from what she said in the clip, it's not like she actually likes lewd stuff or insects THAT much, so idk why she continues during it other than for numbers/giving her audience what they want.The split personality thing is kinda cool though, it allows her to flip flop back and forth between decisions like this, and even polar opposite stream vibes while still being completely normal within the realm of her lore/story.I remember a phase back in 2021 where Akai Haato came back and had chill minecraft streams for a while.She can still do either, just taking the name of whichever personality matches the content.I don't think she should "seal" it though. Maybe just keep away from it for now and come back to it when she's feeling bored again.
>>32518502The only thing that makes her Botan tier is how much I want to have sex with her.
>>32518502Not yet
>>32518518only if they accept the circle invite right?
>>32518502She managed to get a Pekora buff while Botan never got one despite associating with her for longer, which is interesting.
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1566743276816039936Shiranui Kensetsu goods at Kyo-Maf.
>>32514277The real answer to this is "cultural proximity".>Miko parrots dialogue from a game based on American culture>Americans (including "the blacks"): "look at funny anime saying bad word! Ign't peoeple are funny! haha">Niji blatantly goes for an insult that Japanese know is an insult to Koreans in a game infamously known for encouraging cruelty towards one another>Koreans (and Japanese the like Koreans): "NIJI MAN BAD!! APOLOGIZE!! CANCEL NOW!!"
>>32518530Anon, she's unhinged, literally.Even the Akai Haato thing you mentioned was in service of Haachama x Akai Haato arc.She literally only does whatever she likes, no rhymes or reasons behind it.
>>32518502Koyori managed to replace Rushia and settled in her slot along with Kanata the leech
>>32518563No, you automatically get added to the circle. There's no accepting or rejecting. You can't leave the circle either, you can only block or mute the person after the fact.
>>32518530>I don't think she should "seal" it though.Most people, even Haaton, didn't really understand what Haachama was doing in the schizo lore "coexist" arc.She asked quite a few times during that, when people was saying "#revivehaato">you guys understand that for Haato to live Haachama has to die, right?People thought she was referring to it "in story", in the ARG she was roleplaying but she was not roleplaying.She was, IMO, genuinely considering going back to Haato and dropping the Haachama persona for good, but she was conflicted as fuck on how to do it of even whether or not to follow through with it.>which she didn'tShe's dumb tho, she can keep both
>>32518575My black friend started watching Hololive because he got turned on by hearing Miko say nigga
>>32518609Jesus christ why is twitter so retarded?
>>32518564I keep telling you guys, if you have a story behind you, you will get more numbers even if you keep doing the same content.People with a story are people the audience gets invested in. Normal streamers don't have that, hence their audience being flaky and churning all the time.Chuubas with a story can get so many dedicated people following them, just to see more of it.
>>32518628>My black friendhe's definitely you lmao
>>32518609sounds like another episode of twitter retardation that Antis are abusing.
they don't have that tech yet huh, sticking pngs?
>>32518530for better or for worse, Haachama is going to keep on doing whatever she wants to do
>>32518633They can fix it by just making it so you can only start a circle with people who are following you.
>>32518659No, I'm Mexican. I watch Korone and Nene.
how would niji jp be able to compete, it's not even the first armies except for marine
Pink Dog is stealing Dog's retro viewers...
>>32518524No, she's JP so it's harder to shitpost about her
>>32518353I kinda agree with >>32518414It's a manager job to look after the talent and give them advices. They should tell Vox that he won't get these kind of numbers forever. Instead they force him and other members to jump on the bandwagon with all those pre-celebration -> celebration -> celebration collab -> celebration zatsudan -> after party celebration shit.
>>32518672No, Nijisanji does not have the pngsticking feature for their l2d program. While I miss the SOVL pngs, I definitely appreciate when they stick proper.
>>32518690Kanata only lost like 1k viewers with the hour change, the gacha box really is something else.
>>32518575>>32518628"Black Twitter" was different back then tho. Being an edgy black teen and an edgy white teen was all the rage in early TikTok pre "commercialization", with that whole>N word passjoke and the likes being the staple of TikTok meme cultureThen both sides got hijacked by the "cultural war" and banished from the internet altogether.GTA would NEVER be allowed to be released in that form in 2020+, and it wasn't
>>32518703I want to watch the two dogs do one of those retro race streams.
>>32518655If that's the case, I suppose Botan would probably be a 20k average streamer by now easily if she had been playing Rust.
Smart Wamy, she's going to try and finish Inside in one stream.
>>32518718nousagi is still waiting for pego
>>32518748
>>32518748H-hot.
>>32518734"playing rust" is not enough, half the ENs were playing Rust. Only Gura got a slight buff from joining the JPs as a "sixth ranger".Koyo's story with Pekora was MASSIVE, and such universal and easily digestible stories are part and parcel of what makes Hololive so appealing to a wide audience.
>>32518685>Mexican>Friends with a black personnow I know you're lying
>>32518748Wamy...
>>32518685>Korone>NeneJesas, and all Russki bros posting here are SSRB?
anyone listening to okayu album premiere? is it good or no
>>32518770Assuming that Botan wouldn't be a big part of Pekora's plans in Rust seems strange given what the rabbit has said about her.
YAGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GIVE ME HOLOKPOP AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brf3LWwNVTk&lc=UgxA0UuEvu2KBhhhoeN4AaABAg>Lilpa's thighsSEEEEEEEEEX
>>32516766Noroofsanji..
>>32518609I get added by these random japanese scam spambots all the time I assumed Holos get so much spam they would never even look at this shit
>>32518883They had to sell the roof so they can afford the chairs
>>32518808Maybe in S3. As she said herself, she's a reformed "toxic gamer" so she will need some time to acclimatize herself to the way Holos play the game.
>>32518896Why does no one add me...
>>32516766Thats 300-400 people. Nice
>>32518823kpop is garbage, just like the language
>>32518690NijiJP has their own handful of chuubas who bring in guaranteed big numbers. They just don't stream nearly as much.
>>32518945It's only really Chinaman and King.
>>32517536The fuck!? I know that petra girl!
>>32518945NiijiJP have a strong first army but zero reserves.
Either my computer is dying or Senchou is playing in 10 fps for whatever reason...
>>32518938I only like kpop because of their dances not their ching chong language, and it has to be a girl group.
>>32518790It's good but too fucking long for a crossfade.
tatsuke en3 save en aieeeee
Marine's stream seems to be kind of laggy and the horror game she's playing is pretty boring so far so she's not doing gangbusters.
>>32517946Bro current gold is like 25k+. She already got like 24k playing DQM casually
>>32518997Kanata's already gotten 28k.
>>32518748What?
>>32517788>>32517824>>32517943Is she unironically turned into an actual schizo?
Cant wait for holocure update and see how wrong you fags are about the buff. No more 50k from pekers, mid tier will be sub 10k, low tier wont even get 3k.
Why are Ayame and Marine streaming so much recently? It is time for a first army rotation?
>>32518993trust the plan
>>32518896I got added by some nips because I usually retweet nude/hentai image so they use me like a porn distributor or some shit...
>>32518959Salami is up there, even if she reclined a lot. And of course, they've got their events and big collabs that draw huge crowds.
>>32519048Based
>>32518993EN3 will be regis exclusive cocksleevesalso im regis bdw
>>32519034Marine's schedule has apparently freed up. She's got some time at the beginning and end of the month, but a bit busy in the middle. Ayame's supposedly returning to regular streaming.
>>32518997Current top 3. Don't see Peko getting gold with DQM.
>>32519037>Coming soon...>EN3, JP7, KR1, ES1, EU1 Surprise announcement.Cock throbbing excitement.
>>32517536face is a turnoff
https://youtu.be/N-kfxNvTkOENew Watame cover. Please set a reminder and watch it.
>>32519062Then stop streaming Zelda, Hades and Gungeon you nigger
>>32518690Why would they need to compete for daily ccv which is useless when all they need to do is dominate events which they are currently doing
>>32519062stream more hades you nigger, I actually got interested because you play half decently and are willing to play to conclusion.
Dog, stop leaking...
>>32519067Is Ayame 1st or 2nd army tier? She normally gets high numbers when she does stream but that's also accounting for rarity buff.
From the anniversary thumbnails, all the chuuba icons are in a circle>EN and ID are next to holostars, to the left and right, JP at the top, stars at the bottomIt's over, even management labeled EN as homoslut adjacents. That's what they want to push after all.
>>32519081She'll at least kick Vox from the podium.
>>32519128Discord or did she pee a little?
>>32519081>24k for an unarchived karaokeWait Isnt that shit supposed to be in the 40-50k range for vox? what the fuck happened
Koyo and lamy 15k AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>32519062As long as one of the cocksleeves streams and isnt a deadfish im ok
>>32518690>muh first armyKorosan is one of JPs most popular chubas. She just never emerges from her ancient debuff game cave. When she does and plays literally any FOTM or popular game she gets just as much as Subaru/Suisei/Miko.
>>32519159He called some gay guy's mother a whore
>>32518405
EN3>1 aussie>2 white Americans>1 self hating Korean with depression>1 nepotism hire with no passion in streaming
>>32519159He's being culled. 25% back in april and the cull is probably much stronger now, considering his explosive growth since then.
Here comes the funnel.
something something illegal
>>32519194>cull cope
>>32519214Give some to the Dog...
>>32519139I don't have extensive data like chart anon so I can only give anecdote based on my memory, but back when she was streaming kinda normally (2-3 streams a week, back in 2020 days after EN boom) she wasn't anything special. Averages around 10k IIRC.
>>32518502Is she the current strongest holox? Since you know, laplus never stream
>>32519194Cope
>>32519194And Gura broke every record for vtuber merch
>>32519022I said what I said
senchou gold. makes a change from pekora lewds, i guess.
>>32519145>stars at the bottomas they should be
>remember thread wanking holoX and cover scouts>boring hag>hag that streams so much theres no direction>superchat coom whore>lazy menhera zoomerGreat scouting team
>last episode of DQMJFinally. But I am really impressed that Pekora's floor has increased since her break. Now she literally has 20k floor.
Fuck i want kanata lewds
Senchou takes the lead playing some shitty horror game at 10 fps.
>>32519286compared to nijisanji scouting team?
>>32519237From recent multi POV collabs.Koyo = 2 Eroha = 2 Chloe No need to talk about LuiNeed to see Laplus fight Koyori head on.
>>32519202HIGHLY ILLEGAL>HIGHLY ILLEGALHIGHLY ILLEGAL
>>32518896The problem is that Twitter wanted to mimic features like Instagram's Close Friends, and assumed people would only benignly use circles to add who they were comfortable with seeing their private tweets. From what I can gather it basically works as if you are following the circle's owner, without having to actually follow them, and that bumps circle tweets up the priority list compared to bot spam. Only way to opt out of this function for now is to manually block the circle owner.
>>32519286Are you trying to say that Iroha is the only good one from holoX?
Debuff ch https://youtu.be/Xwknhb6UJfsholo gold today (unless gorilla king stream) Niji gold tomorrow salome/toya both 12am
>>32519332I fucking forgot she existed so didnt put one for her whoops
>>32519286I also remember the thread wanking ID3, and while kobo gets numbers, she's literally an eceleb slut zoomer. Kaela is "i stream a lot and barely speak" which really doesn't need much scouting. Zeta is okay./mans/ will tell you Tempus is amazing but even then everyone agrees half of them are runts.Where is this amazing Cover scouting team? Have we even seen them in the last 2 years?
>>32519288What was her floor pre-break? I know she got like 10k last year but Shin Chan was kind of a special case in being debuff game + weird timeslot for her
>>32519288Unfortunately for numbers, she fully intends to play DQMJ2. Her floor is pretty impressive indeed. To think she would have a hard time hitting 20k consistently before...
>>32519350
ENTER KING APEX
>>32519162
>>32519286>>32519364I agree. Covers team sucks since they rely on them being famous before hololive unlike Anycolor scouts who actually look for real talent
30k Getto.
>>32519367What the fuck? That shit has a sequel? fml>>32519366iirc 15k to 18k. Not too far away from current floor anyway.
>>32519350Teme
>>32519286Lui and Koyori are the best is the best hires they have ever done since Botan
>>32519286
>>32519364numbers are numbers, Kobo gets good numbers and everything else people complain about her is cope out of jealousy or an inferiority complex
>>32519327What kind of retardation is this?
If there are no real talents there is no use of good scouts. It is like Bo Le without the horse that can go a thousand mile.
I see the sisters are rattled again today.
Yagoo anniversary uoooooooo can't wait. YAGOO GOLD!
>>32517369The top Nijigirls got hit by CCVID too, huh.
>>32519410Yes and she has said, multiple times, that she's absolutely playing it. In fact, if she could have her way, she would prolong the current DQM game because she likes it that much. About the only thing stopping her from playing 2 is if some weird permission thing comes into play, but that's doubtful.
>>32519457Bunch of shitters, none of the top holo want to be on the same stream as homos. No chance.
>>32519457Nigga it's Daisenpai's anniv
>>32519438Like mentioned earlier you don't have to be following them in the first place to be added, unfollowing just flips some flag that removes you from the circle if you already were following. Yes Twitter is retarded for not making it a mutual-follow feature.
>>32519481elira's anniversary isn't until may
>>32519481Sora has her own Anniversary stream.
>>32518770>Koyo's story with Pekora was MASSIVEPeople missed the kino that the RUST finale was>EN people at least, as their attention was on whatever EN was doingHere is the sequence of events1) Peko and Koyori team up2) The pair befriends Suisei group3) Pekora tries to pass Koyori a note saying "pay attention, when the time comes I'll betray them all"4) Koyori inventory is full, doesn't pick the note5) Suisei ALMOST picks the note up, Pekora picks it back at the nick of timethen6) The time comes, Pekora betrays them all7) Koyori, distraught, confronts Pekora8) Pekora tells her about the note, says "too late"9) Pekora solos the whole server and win10) In one of these moments, Koyori loots Pekora corpse and picks the note without knowingThen, for the punchline11) Sometimes after the fight ends Koyori finally reads the note and realize Pekora didn't abandon her at allSee below, it was a kino as fuck storyline, one among the MANY that arose from that last day of battles.People couldn't script a better sequence of events if they tried and that's more or less why Pekora was picking 50k+ for that stream, and more or less why Koyori and pretty much everybody else got an incline out of it (on the JP side).>Pekora Sent Koyori A Secret Letter That Left Koyori Speechless..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwTd2Ag_6dw
>>32519503who?
>The game ends so suddenly that even Marine is surprised. Marine, stall a bit here. At least enough to make it to Pekora's stream.
>>32519467Everybody was affected by CCVID without exception.The only difference was the rate of drop but without enough zoom you can always see the drop
imagine if touya or salome started early. how much would the holokeks seethe?
>>32517494I will slay that gargoyle. I'm coming for your fat tits, milard
>>32519557what happened to salami btw?
>>32519520Props to Koyo, when she found the note, she sold it perfectly.
>>32519520
>>32519581I still watch it daily for my happy time.
>>32519470DQMJ2 is also on NDS so I think the permission would be the same. DQMJ3 (why tf does this even exist, fml again) is on 3DS so it might take a while if she really wants to play it.
>>32519520>Pekora tries to pass Koyori a note saying "pay attention, when the time comes I'll betray them all"Koyo... my poor Koyo...>In one of these moments, Koyori loots Pekora corpse and picks the note without knowing>Sometimes after the fight ends Koyori finally reads the note and realize Pekora didn't abandon her at allmade me drop a tear, thanks anon
Lamy, my beloved 18k with a shitty indie game
Elf re-establishing dominance over the coyote
>>32519614Not counted, Wamy promised to finish inside. Horny buff
>>32519520>Hololive is Anime irlHow can other agencies actually compete with this DBZ bullshit?
>>32519601I wouldn’t put it past SE to sponsor her to play all of it. I mean all and all it’s still a 20k series
>>32519545She flowed naturally into zatsu of course
I feel miserable
>>32519520>Pekora solos the whole server and winWait so them not finding the TC count as Pekora's win even though Pekora lost all items and have trouble going back to her base again?
>>32519655vox EN gold today + impending niji clean sweep tomorrow getting you down?
>>32519520God truly is a holofag
>>32519637>wamy promised to finish inside whose inside ? mine ? (you) ? botan's ?
>>32519520Man.. i miss when niji used to produced this kind of narrative kino. Nowdays they feel too souless..
>>32519601Yeah, DQM 1 and 2 probably came as a package deal for the perms. Considering she spent months to get those, she probably will go the distance to play the 3rd installment on the 3ds.
>>32519520Koyori is 1.5 army now
>>32519614Holos that massively inclined lately:KoyoriLamyKanataTowaMissing anyone?
>>32519678We are all Lamy
>>32519657They lost to Pekora fortress specifically 5 teams, FIVE FUCKING TEAMS is not enough to bring the fortress to its knee. The teams that managed to get inside got lost in Pekora labyrinth-like interior
>>32519712Choco
>>32519557>Implying Salami can get over 30k without Resident Evil buffing her.Lol Lmao
>>32519520>Koyori loots Pekora corpse and picks the note without knowingHoly shit. I was thread reading and thought Koyori was stupid for not reading the note that Pekora gave her at the start. I saw the part where she read the note and thought it was in her inventory all this time. Her picking it up randomly is more dramatic than this HOLY FUCKING SHIT you couldn't write a better script than this.
>>32519590KINOLIVE
>>32519645A bit of bleed but a funnel is a funnel. It would be funny if Peko manages to take gold just because there's so few streaming right now.
Whys it call 1st army when 1 is smallest number?
>>32519520Imagine if there's a kino animator like sad-ist (who made dreamSP animation) made a full on animation kino from this arc
>>32519741Koyori was searching for food since she was 1hp
>>32519590Holy shit, what a masterpiece>>32519640>>32519603>made me drop a tear, thanks anonThat's the one thing the current crop of>why can't they show their hands on handcam? Nobody will ever be able to track them by their hands alone!new blood in the vtuber audience (and old retards like Silvervale) miss entirely.>the vtuber medium allows you to do so much more than the streaming metawith one caveat>AS LONG AS YOU KEEP THE IMMERSION AT ALL TIMESThere is no difference between "vtubing" and puppeteering>pic related Imagine if these folks in black clothes decided to, in the middle of the show, to take their masks off and address the audience, or take their gloves off and make gestures of their ownIt would be dumb as fuck.The only reason these JP girls are pulling such emotional storylines from dumb games as Minecraft and RUST is because they maintain the immersion while operating their characters, even the ones with known public lives (likes Noel and NotNoel)
>>32519590HOLY KINO
>>32519614how is lamy prime getting so much numbers with that shit game
>>32519721kill counts
>>32519721I thought they disarmed the entire fortress but just had trouble finding the TC?
>>32519655D-do you need a hug anon?
>>32519799Missing pic, pic related
>>32519812I kneel...
Koyori is a 17k streamer
>>32519808this >>32519637
>>32519799It's perfectly possible for IRL streamers to pull off similar storylines as long as they are consistent.
>>32519812I took Rust autism for Peko to do her aim reps enough that she can rack up those kills. Unfortunately, post rust will probably lead her to degrade again.
>>32519657>Wait so them not finding the TC count as Pekora's winAnon, it was a type of "Capture the Flag" event and, even then, Pekora just retreated to her secondary base in the end in a >your princess is in another castletype of "ending" for the first group
>>32519812
>>32519829Is this a screenshot of Gura making Peko lose sanity when she was sniping her ass
>>32519364The only real weak link in Tempus is axel but he brings a fun dynamic in collabs and is a really good singer so it balances out.
>>32519785And she happened to get the note instead of other people. I also heard people were shouting "food, food" so everyone was scavenging but Koyori is the one who got that note. This is some good kino.
https://twitter.com/arurandeisu/status/1566727842225950723https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0v3ivfbeJ0Aruran 3D with Matsuri and Fubuki
>>32519861Nah.. i follow the dream smp kino and i only watch from techno's pov or the others faceless streama since it provided better immerssion than to cringe at their irl face screaming and playing out the script
>>32519864She probably could have done better if she wanted but she was going out and making herself easier to kill. Then again, that's more interesting. Peko's proposed to limit auto-turrets and armor plating next season so she probably plans to make raids more anime dramatic.
>>32519812>>32519888I mean, she was against everyone else so naturally she has the most kill in the server.
>>32519808Horror buff.
>>32519915It’s honestly just the classic plot of “good guy turning evil but don’t want his subordinates involved so he left a note”
>>32519904>when she was sniping her assDidin't Gura have a 2 kill count? See >>32519812Funniest thing is that the most consequential kill by an EN was Kiara's single kill, ganking Pekora right at the entrance of her base IIRC, preventing her from resupplying
>>32519948Damn, JP are more unity than EN.
>>32519950Actually the first YouTuber I watch that follow somewhat of a storyline for his content was…Pewd and his Minecraft seriesThe same Minecraft playthrough that singlehandedly revive Minecraft
>>32519286... as compared to Ranunculus and Voltaction?
>>32519960this game is about as "horror" as little nightmares
>>32519970Yeah I saw that. She recognized her as Kiara after the kill. I thought Pekora has like 6 minibases? Why she keep spawning in the wooden house one where there are no more resources left?
>>32519948>even the shitter at the bottom of totem pole could have a kino 3D live for their annivHolo is where the dream come true
>>32519970She didn't kill her, just keep hitting her with bullets.
>>32519286>>32519364So true sisters, absolutely correct!Also wtf I love Hillary now.
Is it really that hard to just C4 every wall to kill the TC in Pekora's fortress?
>>32519520Yeah, I don't think Pekora would ever leave Hololive for talent freedom. She's a natural born entertainer, but she needs other people to complete the puzzles. Being indie doesn't give you that, and it's harder to trust other people not to fuck shit up or make drama. Earning hundreds of thousands every year with a 2 month break and support for the company, who would want to leave? Miko even more so. EN really needs to get their heads in the game, the box is a gift and unscripted anime plotlines is the way.
>>32520004Well yeah except for pewds i guess. I love seeing his stupid face everytime he play those narrative
>>32520024>Why she keep spawning in the wooden house oneclosest one to the beach base maybe? also that wooden house supposed to have like 10~20 c4, but gura looted them all
>>32520024The show already started and they were going to end the war at 11 JST. At that point there was no real reason for her to spawn in another base. That and she was never there to win, though she did end up managing to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zryLA2VZ8H0TODAY'S GOLD
>>32520060It require getting close to her fortress first and Miko got smoked by the turret formation every time, even if you try helicopter, you saw what happened to Miko attempt
>>32520037>Mio 3 killsKek
>>32520070Even on a hypothetical question on what she would do after cover, her response assumes she would be fired from cover instead of actually quitting.
>>32520070I hope holo found more pekora in the future. Yknow, someone that could create these kind of narrative single handedly on the spot/planned and just rope the others into a kino arc without them knowing about it themselves. Also more holo who willing to get along with it
>2019: PekoMiko>2020: PekoMoon>2021: Kino Summerfest arc>2022: Kino Rust ArcHow does she do it?
>>32520070and missing out on having the chance to get 3D SUPER? anon cmon now
>>32520073I like the shift to blogging content, he give a very interesting view about how it is actually like being a foreigner living in Japan
>>32520070EN are just doing their own things. There is no true unity between them. They are kinda ok with each other but there is really never true friendship, I mean those very good friends between them like Matsuri and Luna, Okayu and Korone or PekoMiko pre-rape.
>>32519286>>32519364Koyori has an average peak so far this month of 16KLiterally the only Nijisanji hire since 2019 who's competitive with this is Salome
>>32520099>2.3k waiting 1 hrDamn
>>32520146>Also more holo who willing to get along with itMori exist
>>32520187Looking For Mother buff
>>32520060You're assuming they're competent in the game, which they are not. Storming a base is easily done if you and your team know what you're doing since turret breaks easily to either the LMG or a simple C4, or you can even just locate the cables and break them so the turret will go offline.
>>32520164To be fair it is a lot easier to develop a deep friendship when living in the same city compared to across multiple countries. Also CouncilRyS still seems pretty close from their onstream interactions, hell Fauna still brings up how much she messages Sana even after graduation.
>>32520159Yeah. Even for someone who fucking hate vlog like myself, his are very entertaining. I dunno, something about the chill and humble vibe his vlog shown is really interesting to watch. It's mundane but, somehow really giving you that japan vibe
>>32519812Not sure, but aren't most of the attacker's weapons also from Pekora herself?
>>32520099Man, Ayame really loves hags.
>>32520131Bruh she literally talk about it numerous time, if she want to graduate she wouldn’t do that suddenly, but rather pulling an Aqua and fade into the background then quietly graduate, affecting no one in the processShe have plans for everything
>>32520149Actual dedication
>>32520155Unreal Suisei looks better
>>32520146Koyori is building into one, but she still needs time because the majority of her gen including her needs to be in for the job and not out of it. Only 1/5 joined Rust. Laplus/Chloe the other two populars aren't in. Pekora could solo on her own, but if Rushia was there, the effect would double.
>>32520131People dont understand what Hololive is and where they want to go.Their strategy is to put these talents in every households where people will own their merch even if they don't follow vtubers or they will play their game or watch their performances.Which talent don't want this? They have bought into this idea and hence they are committed to this strategy but ofcourse everyone has a different role and different talent so they do that through streaming.
>>32520238she wakes up the motherly instinct
Pink Dog is ending for Pekora.Migo, your 35P is turning into a nousagi...
>>32520211Can they disable the turret just by destroying the solar panel?
>>32520211These are the times where it's great that they put entertainment over any sort of practicality. It would have been infinitely more boring if the raid team had approached that properly instead of doing a kamikaze heli.
How do we save holoEN?
>>32520149And she cant keep those moments for more than a year, pekomiko dead pekomoon dead summerfest forgotten and rust soon will be
>>32520276next time Pekora will allow raids from Koyori and viceversa
>>32519680what are some of the old 2018-20 era Niji storylines?I keep hearing about the supposed Ark arc but the clips for that are either fucking boring or disconnected.Did they have other stuff?
>>32520260/sovl
>>32520264>but if Rushia was there, the effect would double.Yeah.. i miss that side of rushia. She is always down for any sheananigans her genmates do and willing to be the butt of the joke..
>>325201741/5 good haul cover !
>>32520269HoloX is probably the 3D live/event gen. I would like to think that but Iroha and Koyori seldom appear on 3D. Iroha is worse in that she seldom get collabs.
>>32519657It's more like we let you win if you tell us a secret deal.Pekora's base was fully compromised a half hour after the zerg rush. TC is not important when all her spawn points and loot rooms got destroyed.
>>32520291They need their own Pekora.Most EN girls are just going with the flow, streaming whatever and hoping that someone will get along.
>>32520278If that's the only electrical generator that she got then yes, breaking those will immediately turn all kind of turrets/traps/alarm off.
>>32520264>laplus wants fleshtuber rust>doesnt play holorustWhore
>>32520291with more bots™
>>32520305People always insisted they were kino, but even as someone who actually watched a number of NijiJP members back then I had no idea who most of the people involved were because they never interacted with the cliques of the ones I watched. To get what was happening you basically had to be an obsessive super-fan
>>32520291Kidnap them and locking them in a studio in Florida. They can only interact with each other, stream, and do 3D events for that 1 year.
>>32520335Their is no single gen solely for 1 purpose otherwise it will become a competition among themselves. I would say Iroha and Koyori are more streamers where 1 is outgoing and the other more of an idol
>>32520238Ayame was even flirting with Botan and Koyori after the collab
>Ayame is (most likely) going to get 3 out of 4 golds since her comebackHos is she so powerful?
>>32520361>They need their own Pekora.Gura.
>>32520366Lap... it took her 1 shill collab to convince Pekora that she was a good collab partner, to a point that Lap manage to secure a 1 to 1 collab with bunny during her collab spree. If only Lap committed more to holo...
>>32520412Heh.
>>32519145Idiot. They separated Homostars from JP because of unicucks whining about it. and they used EN and ID as divider because JP unicucks are much more toxic (on the level of Kindred) than the EN ones.
>>32520403Everyone, for some reason, is debuffing themselves
>>32520392Iroha is not exactly idol-like other than being seiso. She can't sing and probably can't dance.
>>32520278those are on the roof and nothing can get close enough to destroy themwe already see what happened to the missiles and Miko's helicopter
>>32520396Based. Why do people hate on her?
>>32520291You can’t From the beginning they are independent, maybe a bit too independent. It lead to the clash in creative directions, I heard Myth were trying to do an elementary schooler/teacher stream but one of them disagree cause it’s “cringe” and so the idea were scrapped
>>32520442Eroha needs to fix her diarrhea problem
>>32520412barely streams
>>32520291Unironically by imrpving their management and investing in resources so that they can have JP level opportunities. Where is EN hologra, EN 3D anniversaries, EN sponsorships, EN organized competitions
>>32520335Iroha really needs to work on it, she was quite good in her 3D debut, I think she could go places in lives if she can get over herself.
>>32520442well you can go look at the last holo summer where she actually sing and dance to find out.
>>32520442>She can't sing and probably can't danceSo just like real idols huh?Seriously, you fags need to learn what real JP idols like before spouting shit like this.
>>32520427Lapu-chan really bounces off perfectly with anyone she collab with, even in the interview with meatbags comedian she manage to make the thing interesting.
>>32520442>Dumb country girl becomes an IdolThat sounds like the beginning of an Idol Journey.
Fuma just had a collab with Horseman, is Fuma's rm actually an OG? I don't know anything about him
Senchou lewds today? Nijis got anything coming up?
>>32520305They had a lot of arcs and stories during their early minecraft days. Roa and chitose arc was really hardbreaking. There was also that belmound and bullypanda. sultan, mel, and furen, subaru, maimoto, etc. Dunno what happened during late 2020 to 2021 but, it seems like they rarely play with each other (outside of events) outside their own circles.
>>32520412not even close
>>32520291Don't save it. Or fire everyone, including the branch management, and start over.
>>32520467Sorry, I cummed in her ass too many times.Can't risk pregnancy you know.
>>32520507Yeah, he is "Polka" tier
>>32520510Prob gonna be another Ojou win > >>32520099
>>32520366Laplus played on the Holorust server in season 1 but then stopped, might play it again in season 3.Towa is the one who hasn't touched it at all.
>>32520149She cares for her viewers more than anyone else.
>>32520507yeah he was one of the game-bu guys
>>32519338So Toya.
Alert, risotto got a replyhttps://twitter.com/kureijiollie/status/1566750613609652224
>>32520507oh nice, he finally come back to his old friendnice to see horseman still doing fine
>>32520499I know. They are not meant to be perfect at first and will get good with singing and dancing eventually. They are supposed to grow with their fans and the fans are there to see every moment of their growth yadda yadda. The thing is I don't have many opportunity to watch her idol reps.
>>32520305Their ark war was kino, but just like everything Niji JP, it got too predictable because in the end people sticks with their clique the most.
>>32520412She has the pull and the la creatividad but, rarely the confidence or drive. If only she could move to japan to get her motivated to do more kino stuff
>>32519338>salomepfft, toya is more credible
>>32520552I mean the rest of gamebu were girls...
>>32520558Ollie finally replied him.
>>32520569I thought Horseman graduated, but he had a couple of collabs with Siro a few weeks ago.
>>32519408Iluna's existence proves you wrong.
>>32520546Towa will never participate in holorust because she wasn't allowed to hang out with her offcompany friends that she likes more than Hololive. She's very salty.
>>32519410DQMJ3 exists as well. They just need the permissions to play 3DS games I suppose (she did say a week ago that she already had the permissions for all the DQJM games though)...
>>32520412shes got the right profile, but still too lazy
>>32520412Nice big brain collabFor sure she was prepared like pekora
>>32520558So what's the replied/ignored percentage now?
>>32520610Iluna is doing better than Tempus though
>>32520558graduate ollie
>>32520571It's not even a year anon, give her time.I mean, look at Mio and Choco. Hell, even danchou showed some progress.
>>32520597>>32520552Kek. Imagine, IMAGINE! If the OG cocoa will somehow join JP7.
>>32520305It's a real shame the clips and stuff for nijiARK were so autistic. It was massive, full of factions at war, diplomacy, deception, betrayal, changing sides and shit. Though it had the added detriment of putting King off any kind of similar thing in the future because his fanbase got crazy over it and would harass others.
>>32520620Who the fuck only have 1 rig when they are streaming?
Oh shit
>>32520549I would say it’s more that she know what people want to watch and capitalize on itPekora is about the only Holo who can play a villain properly, she know it and she capitalized on it
>>32520629out of 20 something attempts, only 3 responded.
>>32520291the next gen just needs to ignore Myth when they give them the take it easy advice
>>32520558Stupid whore>alsoTO ZA CATOLOGUE
>>32520661Gura is not very smart or tech literate
>>32520558of course its fucking whorllie
>>32520541Damn she's gunning for the bunny
>>32520632Hopefully she does. I would really like to see Koyori and Iroha incline pass Laplus next year just to prove that hard works really mean something.
>>32520427Laplus is a lost cause. The fame get into her head she made a Fantia account with a 50k yen plan.
>>32520297most kino arcs ends one time anon, even in anime. You don't see ace getting back alive or naruto getting his parents again for plot convenience
>>32520469>HolograI'll give you that one>3D anniversariesThey are already doing 3d lives>SponsorshipsThey already have a decent amount and most likely also rejected a few more>Organized competitionsThat's completely up to them, same goes for JP. HoloEN barely do anything together nowadays, Gura's Big Brain stream is a good idea but had to be put off due to technical issuesI'm not trying to pretend they get the same treatment than HoloJP because they obviously don't, but you can't blame everything they do wrong on management
>>32520507>Horseman finally returns after .Live implosionWait, when did he decide to come back?
>king apexgood fight, holokeks, but the big boys are streaming now.
>>32520558Fucking Ollie man.
>>32520668>make a villain for holo summer> didn't pick pekoraYeah that's why the talents are better than cover
Marine viewers10% <18 age40% 18 - 24 age 20% female viewers
>>32520507He's Domyouji
>>32520721>reclining ghoul*yawn*
>>32520721Probably 30k to 40k?
>>32520469>>32520708Tbf, they unironically need to accelerate and get 2 more gen ASAP. They could chill or whatev after but, EN is too small for the size of fame they have
>>32520728To be fair, getting Pekora to participate in official channel stuff was likely the main barrier to getting her to play the villain.
>>32520758roru, rumao even.I'll give him 25k at most but I doubt it'd reach 20k.
>>32520740Haruto?
>>32520758He got only 26k I guess last time
>>32520758anon... last time he got sub 30k
>>32520740Nahone, I didn't know that
>>32520758Nah, his latest one around 29k unless it's eceleb collab / tournament scrim or the tournament day, no big /#/ like the old days
>>32520558low tier ID whore kekthis bitch can sucking dick on stream for all I care, just don't drag JP into her shit
>>32520763Just to spell it out to people out there. EN3 is technically Council, so they should say "EN4 doko" instead in the future.
I can't help but feel like Pekora want to act like a guide to the kouhais or something. Notice how all the kouhai she dropped are one who hit a deadend and cannot grow anymore but she is nice to the kouhais she THINK still have room to grow
>>32518896I get often added in some hags' circle of porn for some reason...
>>32520620I agree that she should have been more prepared, but tbf, that type of gameshow is rarely hosted by the talents themselves. You usually see that type of content on the main channel organised by office staff.
>>32520758His Apex stream from like 5 days ago got sub 30k.
>Lamy with 18KHOLY SHIT
>>32520708I am not saying management is bad, I am saying Cover needs to invest more to improve the management.3D lives is probably their biggest failure where you chocked on Irys model and now Council has to wait for Irys new model and 3D. EN vtubing is not the same anymore you need a boost and unironically these 3D lives create the most buzz
>>32520817She got fingered on stream during a collab.
>>32520817
>>32520661Those who don't stream that much and those who don't play demanding games.
>>32520849Speaking of 3D lives, Gura's is doing pretty well on Vods.
>>32520763If holoEN had four gens they'd have 5-10 stream overlap during PST primetime and everyone would sink to sub-4k CCV. The NA audience just isn't there.
>>32520810>>32520836It is unironically over for him huh? He will now be a bronze boy instead.
>>32520818Solo debut don't count towards Gen number retard, otherwise Suisei would be the real yonkisei.
>>32520164The Story is a force that nudges you to participate in it. It even tried to rope Ame and Mori into the group photo in order to give them the full. Their rejection of it was quite disappointing.
>>32520852and?
>>32520663>Fubuki is creating more mascot Everyone kept saying HoloEN is a content creator but forget that many HoloJP is as talented or even more.
>>32520882Also the Balalaika clip from it almost reached 900k.
>>32520885eventually becoming the no podium boy
>>32520882>vodcope
Seems like NijiFes will proceed, promo materials already being advertised https://twitter.com/kuon_55/status/1566532694019780609?t=gFhkpifHbnML9-ZBvqfGNA&s=19
>>32520902Sorry, ESL opinion like yours don't mean shit here.
>>32520901>MoriNot even surprised since from the looks of it she doesnt want to do anything that would associate her character strongly with hololive
Another day, another 10K sub for Kobo.
>>32520924who care lol western faggot
>>32520758He's still in Silver tier, anon. Why would you watch him in that lobby?
>>32520923It'd be a shame if this turns into another Fantasia huh.
>KING buff stream ≈≈ Pekora Debuff streamsIt was good while it lasted Bronze boi, but you're not her rival anymore..
>>32520882This irritates me, firstly she didnt announce that it is a 3D performance everyone found out during the stream and secondly it was a Kanauru version which was good but still not the official one so technically they have yet to have their own 3D performance ( except Calli°.
How do we save HoloJP?
>>32520427i've said this once and i'll say it againlaplus is a unpolished diamond that will probably stay unpolished
>>32519520yea, the sad thing is that tempus is the gen that comes closest to it, they can at least create ministorylines in game for at least 1 stream, the zomboid collab yesterday showed me that. When Kronii ignored the beginnings of a 'civil war' arc with Fauna, it killed me inside. Are there even any mini story arcs with council? Myth had a few but they haven't had any lately either, even snot is just kinda a collab group with no storyline.
>>32520777anon, did you happen to miss seeing pekora on the main channel for holosummer?
>>32520951>who careSEAfag-chama...
>>32520959apex isn't a buff anymore
>>32520923You forgot what happened with Fantasia? Everything was already ready and they were even done with rehearsals.
>>32520931She dropped Minecraft and refuses to play if I remember correctly. I wonder what happens when she refuses to join the sports fes and overlaps it.
>>32521010non of the current fps games are even for fps fleshstreamers
>>32520991So what white pig?
>>32520959>Kuzuha anywhere near bronzeMeds. He can't even do that on a dead day like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zryLA2VZ8H0>30min to start>3.5k waiting
Real goldhttps://youtu.be/zryLA2VZ8H0
>>32521010tell that to towa or vspo
>>32520974Well at least she has the potential. If she ever decides to take her holo career seriously, she'll have a good chance to get far.
>>32520923>Should I?
>>32520818Does this mean HoloX is Gen7 or or gen 12?
>>32520931Did you really said this when she was on main channel not an hour ago?I know Mori-hating is /vt/ preferred past-time, but at least use your brain a little.
>>32521067do it
>>32520976Based on the stream leaks the EN girls seem to be aware of scripted performances and storyline building but they... just don't do it and thus never get better at it either.
>>32521037What's his surname then? King, silver boi and bronze boi aren't fitting anymore.
How do we save HoloID?
>>32520986That genuinely surprised me honestly. I'm talking about all other official channel stuff though, like game shows and the like, or the Holo bonjour, or any extra main channel content. She probably opted to just focus on her own content, which is respectable, but it's a shame she doesn't appear in the extra stuff.
>>32521093Above average performing boy?
>>32521067But what price will we have to pay for this transgression?
>>32521093I mean, /#/ still calls Hal "Emperor" despite the fact that Neo Porte flopped hard
>>32521019Mori literally said she would only join Minecraft if it's one of those events
>Kuzuha stalling at 22k with apexdamn
>>32521019>I wonder what happens when she refuses to join the sports fes and overlaps itShe overlap the holo climax live with shilling stream ft anifaggot
>>32521067Leave them a chance Watamage, if they were to somehow have some unforeseen circumstances on their head once again, Hololive will forever be known as the best Vtuber company in Japan...
>>32520903Mascot more like a mythical figurehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5oxSMljxeE
>>32521091Why would you want them to fake the shit they do on stream? I'd take a dozen natural holoEN x Tempus collabs over scripted holoJP collabs anyday.
>>32521126No emperor rules forever
>>32521067Watamage, please... control your bloodlust...
>>32521093Regent? Viceroy? Grand vizier?
>>32520507Don't know how well confirmed it is but most people seem to think he was the Gamebu guy (which some people used to think was one of the new Nijis until Fuma debuted).Funny that he even used to interact with Holo girls like Aqua in the past.
>>32521131She didn't join summerfes no?
>>32521131Oh, my mistake then. At least there won't be drama on that front.
>>32521115Ouro Kronii graduation
>>32521073I mean of course she'd do that since it would boost Mori But the way she dodged minecraft and even rust group activities shows that she doesnt want to be associated with hololive that much
>>32521150Awful taste ngl
>>32521158Former emperor is still an emperor, same with kingship
>>32521107Honestly I'm not surprised, to maximize use of the facilities and keeping up covid safety measures, they record several of those things all in the one day so whoever does them basically gives up a day of personal work.
am i correct to assume holo has no real people rival in japan?theres no big female streamer and female idol in japan is reclining hard ever sinve gold era akb48.meanwhile niji has many rival since male streamer are a lot and idol from johnny associate dominated japan
>>32521131she didnt join summerfestshe said she would join only if management forces her to join
>>32521170Jesus, HoloEN will have two graduations before NijiEN has one. What a dowfall.How do we save HoloEN?
>>32521091>storyline buildingthe best one at that seems to be fauna, shes on top of her game to build narratives and react to events, but it is mostly solo stuff.. if she had someone to share her dumb stories with itd be much better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e0ghcOhI4gHuh, so by now how many of them played this?
King is streaming and there is a huge fall guys collab from the top nijis plus baseball collab. What's the total number bros?
>>32521074It is 10th gen duh. It is in its name.
>>32521131Bro she didn't join summer festival this year and handed gura all her diamonds for gambling
>>32521163Too busy sucking Giggcuck
>>32521131Did she say that before skipping summerfes or after?
>>32520976none of them can trust the fans to not sperg out over any perceived offense.
>>32521211Botan, Watame, Luna. Luna's not playing on the same world.
>>32521131*company mandated events
>>32521093graduate sana, pomu and king. fucking goalie and defenders lost to a fucking child
>>32520558So she wants him to be put in jail?
>>32521169So in your amazing thought process Mori would prefer main channel content than fucking Summer Fes because she wants the boost from said event?Are you dumb?
>>32521224That was during the Summer Live. The summerFes was just her being a contrarian bitch as always.
>>32521211Luna, Botan, Watame and Kaela AFAIK
>>32521197SoEmperor = HalEmpress = SuiseiKing = KuzuhaQueen = PekoraOr maybe Salome was Queen too?
>>32521150That's where talent comes into it. If you have talent, you are able to use a script to make kino. If you aren't it just ends up awkward and stilted.
Gen 5 power levelRamy > Buton, Poruka, Beetle girl
>>32521073>>32521250>main channelProbably company mandated
>>32521222In fairness to her, Pebot had specifically mentioned that there wasn't any need to attend the event. Everyone was free to come and go as they pleased. That was more an excuse for a cute gathering between holomem that wanted to come. Spotsfes is a bit too big to ignore in comparison.
>>32521203Eigo jouzoThere's still a lot of pop musicians (and especially general entertainers/tarentos) who are bigger than eitherFunny you should mention Johnnys though, two of them are hoshiyomi
>>32521224That was sponsorship retard, kadokawa and cover literally ordered her to.
>>32521211botan, watame, luna i think
Okay, why is Hololive's 5th anniversary event inviting only Fubuki from HoloJP? Where are the other members?
>>32521150Bet you hate watching movie
>>32521274>Empress = SuiseiNo such thing. Suityan is just suityan.
>>32521261Mori wants ppl to be a fan of Mori as Mori not as Hololive talent. Her end goal is to collect as many fans as possible who only follows her so that when she leaves Hololive she can survive on her roomate
What even happen to Kiara's oktoberfes idea last year?
>>32521250Well so far her actions matchShe literally appeared on holo main ch today tho
>>32521300isn't johnny's the agency that freaked out and blocked a PC release of the judgment games because the MC's VA/likeness is under them?
Are vspo and neo-porte talents really pro in fps? I mean are they all above average and above anything in holo and niji? For example are they better than Aqua, Matsuri, Kuzuha, Ibrahim, Ars and Chigusa?
>>32521315you know the reason
>>32520511uhhh these seem more like a list of collab groups than story arcs?
>>32521336>she can survive on her roomateShe needs to have talent first in order to do that since we all know what happened to kson
>>32521289Poor beetle girl, all she has are her beetles.
The main issue with HoloEN girls can be summarized in a single timestamp from latest Ame's SC reading.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9IOW0X9g9Q&t=6835sHaving a couple of laid-back coasters who're occasionally doing something useful for a branch is okay. Having half of the branch sharing the same mindset is not.
>>32521010>apex isn't a buff anymore>>32521054>tell that to (...) vspoAnon, the reason Neo Porte numbers are dead but VSPO is inclining is exactly because they diversified away from APEX and branched into>MonHun>Minecraft>"playing dolls" with outfit reveals>group activitiesHere is their Top 10 streams since June>peak :: date :: title (nameEn) :: video_id>66639 :: 2022-06-24 :: 【初配信】デビューしました!猫汰つなです。 (Nekota Tsuna) :: zAmNGaw-6qQ>54316 :: 2022-07-24 :: 【#藍沢エマ新衣装】初めてのお衣装チェンジ...! (Aizawa Ema) :: khF7WfDjoqI>52902 :: 2022-08-25 :: 【初配信】白波らむね です!!デビューしますっ!!!! (Shiranami Ramune) :: mQAhby98UXg>47678 :: 2022-06-27 :: 【APEX】ストームポイントぐらいサボっていいんじゃないんですかね (Nekota Tsuna) :: Orv5cjgYnBs>38842 :: 2022-09-03 :: 【#紫宮るな新衣装】お待たせしました!新衣装お披露目です!!! (shinomiya runa) :: tS1waI_Oxyk>31375 :: 2022-06-05 :: 新衣装お披露目超かわいいから見に来て。 #胡桃のあ新衣装 (Kurumi Noah) :: nIdOlzzxvEA>26461 :: 2022-06-30 :: 【APEX】先輩後輩先輩と渋ハルカスタムでデートします (Nekota Tsuna) :: kTGwSQ1oOXA>25456 :: 2022-06-25 :: 【雑談】マシュマロみたいなやつ読んだり雑談したり! (Nekota Tsuna) :: qKojTTsJmQU>20532 :: 2022-08-14 :: 【APEX】かえってきた!清楚コラボ! w/リサ先輩 べに先輩 (Aizawa Ema) :: UNxG-9kTdro>19409 :: 2022-06-09 :: 【RUST】何が始まるんです・・!? (Uruha Ichinose) :: 95HN4wkLt3YAnd here is the top 10 since August>peak :: date :: title (nameEn) :: video_id>52902 :: 2022-08-25 :: 【初配信】白波らむね です!!デビューしますっ!!!! (Shiranami Ramune) :: mQAhby98UXg>20532 :: 2022-08-14 :: 【APEX】かえってきた!清楚コラボ! w/リサ先輩べに先輩 (Aizawa Ema) :: UNxG-9kTdro>18324 :: 2022-08-11 :: ぶいすぽ夏祭りみんなで見ようここで涼もう (Sumire Kaga) :: LFDUsNerNOU>18106 :: 2022-08-21 :: 【#如月れん新衣装】今回は普通にお披露目する (Ren Kisaragi) :: WKbFIdaqExc>16156 :: 2022-08-02 :: 大会お疲れさま マザーさんを見守る会 (Sumire Kaga) :: lQupm6RygQs>14206 :: 2022-08-26 :: 【Visage】30万人ありがとうホラゲー;;w/八雲べに先輩 (Aizawa Ema) :: 4AmRrZUmIJg>13741 :: 2022-08-13 :: も (Hinano Tachibana) :: 22soS1gzhMg>13290 :: 2022-08-21 :: 藍のこもったラジオは、い花芽ですか #あいかが (Sumire Kaga) :: 0lRiexjI8TU>12999 :: 2022-08-22 :: 第四回 #はなばなラジオ (Hinano Tachibana) :: oMyAWInpPSM>12757 :: 2022-08-16 :: 【モンハンサンブレイク】本日も、対よろです。 (Uruha Ichinose) :: c8sj2fUPLQs
You forgot nijikiller and sultan
>>32521274Salome was fake queen designed to contain nousagi and ichimi during pekora and marine break week/month
>>32521335based
>>32521349Yes
>>32521344IF she wants to boost her own channel, she would've participated in Summer Fes.Have you seen the gazillion clips that resulted from Summer Fes? On the contrary, no one clipped the segment from fucking main channel.
>>32521295And what's the cope when she didn't attend sportfes this year, mind you flare used surgery card to opt out that event
takes 5 months for a high-effort creavitidad to reach 1M views.
>>32521368You dont need that much of a talent, you just need enough people to believe that you are good and opportunities will keep coming coz of numbers. She is an average musician but she will have 1Mil subs behind her to show
>>32521295Yeah. Still it looks bad when a big event like that which several ENs stayed up really late for go while Mori who is in the right timezone doesn't bother to just go and hang out 'with my friends!' She didn't even have to do anything, just look at things and chat on discord lol.
peko 30k with fucking dqm
>>32521339lost in the same pit as Mori's carnival.
>>32521315Anya literally there
>>32521383So she is The Pretender?
>>32521315>出演タレント>【ときのそら】>【白上フブキ】>【アーニャ・メルフィッサ】Retardchama?
>>32521374>I do wanna do something, but I don't wanna try too hard in a game right now>I just wanna play something chill>That's alright if you don't wanna watch
>>32521422Nothing. If she genuinely doesn't participate in Spotsfes without a really, really good reason, and maybe even overlapped it, I can't even imagine the level of hate she'd get for that.
King 27k and climbing. Easy nijigold.
>>32520970>insert samefag copypasta here
>>32521315most holos dont want to collab with homos
>>32520849This. They need to fire omega and replace him with someone that actually could analyze holo's fanbase and market instead of pander to twittards
>>32521378retard you listing their all-time top peaks like an unthinking autist doesnt mean shit. Truth is both towa and vspo still get good numbers with apex, they havent really dived
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zryLA2VZ8H0>15min to go>4.5k waiting
>>32521374>>32521485Why don't you add the time stamp where someone in the branch refused her imported JP collab idea?With lazy fucks around, it's demotivating for the idea guy.
>>32521429>You dont need that much of a talent, you just need enough people to believe that you are goodproblem is that most of the people that say that she is good are deadbeats who will most likely abandon her like tatsunokos. We already saw that she got made fun of by majority of the rap audience who were non-holo fans
>>32521441Are you really surprised by that? It is the last episode by the way.
>>32521525Get on with the time retard-chama, Jenma is the one controlling HoloEN now.
>>32521544>someone in the branch refused her imported JP collab ideayou mean a genmate or management?
>>32521441Nousagis miss her. Marine/Ayame gold today? Or will toya stream?
>>32520412too lazy, if she had a steady stream schedule of 5 times a week I'd agree, but even then she just lacks skilled partners. No one else is looking to actually entertain their audience in EN every time they stream, they expect their own existence and doing whatever is entertainment enough. To be fair, they can certainly live off that with Holo's reputation, but they're never going to be JP big like that, and Gura can't work magic, there needs to be interested partners for storylines to form.
>>32521525>omegaomega is homoen anon, jenma is the one in charge
>>32521507Ridiculous, half of EN already on the Homos collab train
>>32521595Toya is midnight, so that's for tomorrow's tally.
>>32521546>majority of the rap audienceSuch as?No tiktok audience doesn't count as "rap audience",whatever the fuck that means.
I wonder why people in here do not apply to be in a vtuber company. Phase, Prism and even Tsunderia desperately want our talents to manage their companies.
>>32521600Not hard for half when you only have 10 fucking members
>>32521598Realistically who among EN can still draw number as indies if suddenly Cover withdrew from EN market just like like China market, hypothetically?
>>32521600shiny new toy anonand theyve seen the backlash from kronii so most of them dont want to upset their gachikois
>>32521592Her branchmates apparently. She threw out the idea of kino elementary school variety show that JP did, but someone rejected it.
>>32521600holos?
>>32521617Unless he pull another 23:58
>>32521600Yes, just like almost half of HoloJP.Your point?
>>32521429One more point to add and I cant believe I am saying this but it is the truth: She is not cute or pretty like Matsuri or Mel where fans will follow you no matter what because you look good
>>32521600come on anon, I think even your brain understands that I was talking about JP
>>32521126Emperor is emperor not only because of his numbers but, because he created one of the biggest fps event that brought big /#/ and ended ccvid
Kuzuha vs Pekora at the top reminds me of the old days. The difference is Pekora is not alone at the top now while after 2 years, kuzuha has no partner. Salome and Toya doesn't compete in primetime.
>>32521618>no tick tockzoomers are the rap audience anon and they are mostly in tiktok
>>32521664If she decided to go on a diet I can see her become pretty.
>>32521643Well, depends. Just enough numbers to keep on making a living out of streaming or enough to be in the big leagues?
>>32521643the one who has a million subs on her indie channel
>>32521647so she couldnt do it with out that branchmate? for cancelling something like that seems like it was more than one that was against it
>>32518018Not related, but do you think recent developments from EN/ID side will affect Cover's grip on the girl market?
>>32521727Kson level of indie before she joined Vshojo.
>>32521647Probably not Gura, that sounds like something she'd be down forIna would probably be okay with itThat leaves Mori (biggest suspect) or Kiara
>>32521675>biggest fps eventYou mean, "biggest Vtuber-exclusive FPS event">ended ccvidHe didn't single-handedly "ended CCVID" anon, come on no.
>>32521643Pretty sure most ENs would be low end 4views if they went indie vtubers
>>32521647>someone rejected it.Would not be surprised if its Mori
>>32521647I bet if she tried this again now she'd get enough takers for it to work. CouncilRyS are a lot more willing to do "cringe" content and IRyS would be 110% on board with loli roleplay
>>32521702also Pekora is playing an ultra debuff game while Kuzuha is playing his flagship game
>>32521731I can see that. I would totally watch IRyS no matter where she goes.
>>32521643Except Gura the rest are not gonna make it, yes even Mori or Ina.
>>32521675>ended ccvidmaybe you mean the omicron variant of it
>>32521647100% it's Mori.
>>32521701>zoomers are the rap audienceYeah, so you don't know shit.
>>32521369Those collab groups was formed through arcs when they play games together and try to befriend anyone. Now that the circles had formed those kino arcs are no longer there.
>>32521731True Mumei can still be pretty big as an indie
>>32521782Wrong one
>>32521763How's sana number?
>>32521810>He thinks people listening to 2pac or Biggie listen to morilollmao
>>32521772back then, it was minecraft vs apex. Now, pekora needs to handicap herself because if she started blasting out minecraft even after summer fest, she'd get an easy 35k
>>32521772Pekora literally on "rest" mode because she knows other holos may get gold other than her
How does Nijisanji succeed in Nijification of the vtuber market?
>>32521643Maybe Ame or Mori? Twitch is all about the grind and connections, they are both fine with sreaming for long hours, and have some links to VShojo.
>>32521753definitely mori
>>32521093I always call him Kazuha. These scrubs don't deserve nicknames.
>>32521460She was The Regent, when the real queen isnt present
>>32521788Mori doesn't have a RM account on twitch? How good it go?
>>32521150actually shit taste, holojp collabs are many times better than anything coming out of EN of either gender.
>>32521838stop buying bots and appeal to actual people
>>32521830I said most plus he said hypothetical EN is dissolved meaning holobox disperses and most will likely follow their favorites into what they do next instead of being invested in the box
Why is the sudden doomposting about HoloEN?
>>32521782the renai circulation girl has less subs than anya
>>32521150> scriptedit's called improv nigger, look it up
>>32521838By focusing on the company instead of the livers. You cant dominate the market if you invest money and time on shitty livers. Thats why only the top dogs get sponsorships and preferential treatment.Anyone who says this is a bad thing is retarded since it ensures the company's survival in the long run