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Nijikek
Ni hao Paul Li
What did Nijisanji do to make Indonesians seethe so much?
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>47,845: Ayame (Hololive)>31,563: Marine (Hololive)>31,244: Kobo (Hololive)>23,232: Pekora (Hololive)>21,345: Yugo (Nijisanji)>20,774: Koyori (Hololive)>18,146: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>17,398: Towa (Hololive)>15,870: Subaru (Hololive)>13,502: Koyori (Hololive)>12,117: Fubuki (Hololive)>12,110: Fauna (Hololive)>10,387: Met (774 Inc.)>10,350: Hal (Neo Porte)>10,196: Watame (Hololive)
>>32347289They failed NijiID
>>32347289Selamat pagi
>>32347287kek
>>32347231anon why would you think any of us know what females are like?
What went wrong with Nijisanji? Why do they keep losing?
>>32347236/news/ roundup for 02-09-2022 >>32298191Recent clip numbers>>32281010>>32281042>>32281115>>32281145
>>32347289Abandoned their jungle branch
>>32347287Paul Li is canadian, retard. Born in canada, he just has chinese race.the guy only speak japanese and english>>32347080It's not about being shitty. They have a lot of riggers in there.They literally went to live 2D in 2018 because it was cheaper, thats why their quality isnt like this and ever will going to improve. Investment only goes to 3D. 2D is to be functional, and that has been the case since then.What they do is contract riggers and their recruitment for those are always open. But the tech itself never will change that much even in 2.0 or 3.0.
>>32347322
>>32347289Vox is haram
>>32347402Siska should've been In Holo
>>32347355fuck off, nijishill
>>32347436Siska should've roped herself
Why is Finana copying Hololive?Did this shitter think she was Kobo?
>>32347400NTA, why can't Niji's new debut start with 2.0 or even 3.0 models?
>>32347400你好吗
Yagoo status?
Not fans of kobo but i love that she keep mindbroke nijisis everyday.and probably mindbroken riku aswell since she got popular after nijiid got abandoned kek
>>32347484What did she copy
>>32347461This is the most offensive thing anybody has ever called me on this website
>>32347511In heaven and hell at the same time, heaven because tempus are getting good views, hell because he knows it won't incline JPstars much is any.
>>32347541She shat on Vshojokeks with a hattrick earlier as well
>>32347355Riku doesn't care about his livers, only how much money they will bring him. This is why they keep debuting so much new talents without give a shit about how well they perform in the long run
>>32347490Manufactured event for the liver to cash on to call it "3.0 celebration" along those lines
>>32347367Monthly /news/ roundup for August 2022>>32140520Top 25 ccv vtuber streams of all time>>32144719August 2022 tables>>32228769 >>32229568 >>32232534 >>32233601
>>32347490>ACCELERATE
>>32347500Fuck off
>>32347400>But the tech itself never will change that much even in 2.0 or 3.0.But why tho? They popularize this meta but, refuse to improving it like cover. That's just sounds dumb. Especially when they focused on AR while there's already tons of ARcorpo that way ahead of them both on tech and price
>September eventsHololive>1) Rust season 2 final day (multi povs)>3) Ayame anniversary (ayame ch)/ Botan new outfit >4) Choco anniversary (choco ch)>7) Sora anniversary (sora ch)>8) Botan birthday (botan ch)>9) Splatoon 3 release/Holocure update>12) Myth anniversary (ame ch)>13) Myth anniversary (ame ch)>16) Subaru anniversary (subaru ch)Nijisanji>1) Leos 3D challenge (rion ch)>4) Fuwa costume reveal (fuwa ch)>9) Splatoon 3 release>23) Niji horror drama (official ch)>28) Kuzuha day (kuzuha ch)>30) Nijifes fantasia (official ch)
>>32347484Really shameless kek. She thought she could get big numbers after seeing Kobo win the gold yesterday.
So when will isolar debut?
>>32347604
>>32347649Is Choco going to do a 3D Live?
>>32347667Winter solstice
>>32347667Solaris, November
>>32347593>Riku doesn't care about his livers, only how much money they will bring him>Giving 3 low ccv ID livers an update???
Probably days late now, but turns out all of Kaela's merch was limited.I don't think any Holo's birthday merch has not been made-to-order before. Usually the limited part is just the hand-signed postcard.I'm sad, merchbros...
>>32347667I don't think Paul Li will debut a new gen after seeing iLuna numbers
>>32347490start with lowest cost, if they flop within 1 year and graduate, no expense cost spentthis is why niji only give 3d and bush ups if they meet expectations or how long they have served niji
>>32347707nothing announced yet but its very likely
>>32347744>Abandoned ID and KR?
>>32347750Iofi's was limited too I think
>>32347511Weeping tears of joy
imagine being the first in the ID market and shat the bed so hard you have to shut it down. months later your rival opens a branch in the place you left and have gotten successful vtubers from there. how would (you) feel?
>>32347750Your fault for taking so long
>>32347805>Abandoned ID and KR>ex-ID getting 2.0 this week?
>>32347667when EN3 got announced
>>32347750new fans have to pay the 50% scalper fee. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>32347667(You)Solar when
>>32347836I'd kill myself for being such a failure, personally
>>32347511Damn, Stars inclining to heavens. Slow and steady wins the race I guess.
niji is proven never to give the livers help early in their career, they have to prove it if they are worthy to get niji official help
>>32347750The same thing happened to iofi's birthday merch, I think they are engaging some different manufacturer for Indonesia which has tighter limitationsOn the up side they deliver in about two months
>>32347863>Merch birthday from fans?
>>32347906Kek
>>32347786Cool, thanks, anon
>>32347726>Giving low tier 3 ccv ID an update after seeing the success of kobo*Just like how they opened an EN branch after seeing the success of myth.
Do you guys think Holostars ID has a chance to be popular like HoloID? i think if starsID ever happened they have chance to do well in ID unlike starsEN & starsJP.there's perk of ID market doesn't have gachikoi culture
>>32347744They killed them off themself and put a "EX" shitstain on their name
>>32347906please anon, don't make me remember about that sad thing...
>>32347949No
>>32347893If you can't beat them, join them.
>>32347903Damn Kobofans better get prepared for the worse then during her birthday
>>32347836HoloID3 literally debuted two weeks after the closure of the nijiID branch was announced. There literally is no worse timing for them.
What went wrong with HoloEN? Why do they keep collabing with males?
>>32347836Niji only need to reap what they sow after that investment. but they went retard and had to pull out from ID market because ipo
list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi **places to end up for these girls include>NijisanjiEN wave 7 if dual wave with Iluna exists>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now>idol corp which had auds end at the end of July** RRAT: Aozora Kurumi is reincarnating into Indie vtuber Auregalia Aruri
>>32347906imagine if the 2.0 was made by fans LMAO
>>32347949No, or at least it seems kinda risky, the only reason they made StarsEN is because StarsJP had a lot of english speaking fans.
>>32347786She already announced it and the guests retard
>>32348004why not it's up to them like in holo JP
>>32348028No she didnt you fucking liar. Eat my ass
>>32347994Not to mention ID3 just exploded in popularity and renew the hype withing the ID market..
>>32348004They don't respect what their senpais built
https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1565930423284531200Haachama lewd pic review stream got shutdown by management
>>32347863They shutdown Taiwan and India too
>>32348026I see, i dont know if ID market is good for male vtuber, is there popular ID vtuber? how's their number(sub, Vod view, CCV,etc) ?
>>32348025Anon. please dont ruin my day with this sad thing
>>32348105what changed?
>>32347949Brownies got tiny dicks. I'm sorry but they have no place in a global brand like Hololive.
>>32348105Is it related to okayu's ASMR got banned?
>>32348126 (me)*i mean popular male ID vtuber
>>32347400Canada has a city full of chinks, literally with mandarin all over the place and barely any english
>>32348159It did?
>>32348105Just join vshojou already
>>32348105>postponedI wonder which of Yagoo's immediate family is she going to kidnap to get perms
>>32348004Sora and FBKing, both pillars of holo, regularly collabs with homos. I see nothing wrong with it unless you openly flirt like what Millie did to Alban.
>>32348159what?
>>32348105even chama can't do her creatividad anymore... HOLOLIVE IS FINISHED!
>>32348126indie?mythia with 600k ish subs.she probably make vtuber id scene more popular before kobo debut
>>32348159qrd?
>>32348064https://youtu.be/-ByxMmDO1Gw?t=2120Fuck off loser.
I have 2 theories that are current being test out thanks to holoEN members and their management.>1. Constant collabs between male and female will result in a net gain of viewers for males and net loss of viewers for female vtubersThis theory is tried and tested in nijiJP and the hypothesis turn out to be true. We just need to see whether it can be recreated by holoEN and starsEN. So far we are seeing an incline of Regis in terms of subs and Nowa is still ahead among his peers. Now we just need to see either Kronii or Kobo to be constantly collabing with males to see the effect on the subs of the girl's side. We can test it out on Bae, Mori and Ollie too but their result might be less significant>2. Diluting the distinction between hololive EN and holostars EN will reduce the prestige of hololive brand overallEN management is pushing hard for "hololive = holopro, you didn't know?" path to promote holostars EN since its inception. HoloEN twitter even became holoproEN twitter just to muddy the water even more. My hypothesis is that by doing so, the hololive lost is distinctiveness in the market and is prone to losing regular/loyal customers as it will slowly become "just another vtuber corpo" in the west. This will in turn hurt their revenue and even worse, let their competitors find rooms to grow. With Project Kawaii resembling what holoJP and holoEN themselves getting close to nijiEN in terms of content, I am seeing that both companies will be able to siphon customers from holoEN and even starsEN. Of course, the vtuber market is still growing so if I want to see the effect I cannot just look at holoEN's sales growth, but need to look at it in relationship of other companies' sales growth.All in all, these 2 theories require quite some time to test and we need the talents and management to stick to their guns in terms of what they are doing now. Some might say they are destroying hololive, but for me it is an opportunity to do science.
>>32348217I thought Gura was Alban's true love? What's he doing with the fat indog?
>>32348242> meds on screenkek
>>32348255Never let a crisis goes to waste.
>>32347490can't say I know. Some models are ofc better than others, not all have the same quality.2.0 isn't a thing in EN for example, probably because their models are advanced in comparison. so for them likely 3.0 would be the evolution.>>32347950They didn't put "Ex" in their name. Are you retarded anon? ID and KR put it themselves, likely based on how exGamers and exSEEDS did the same after the 2018 merger.>>32347940They have been giving 2.0 to ID since 2021, same to KR.>>32347906Not that i disagree they were abandoned in terms of merchandise, but you are ignoring the existence of Seffyna and Nari custom merch>>32347629Can't say I know. They invest a lot more in 3D, AR and other technologies. To me it seems they only want the 2D to be functional, not a complete mess. There's still improvements ofc but they aren't very big.
>>32348226im talking about male ID vtuber, sorry i left out typo
i thought this collab with eseleb? will bring numbers like kobo. guess im wrong
>>32348317>They didn't put "Ex" in their name.Nigger nijiID as an official organisation no longer exists, stop coping
>>32348189seriously?
>>32348108Anycolor shut down ID, yes. Anycolor never shutdown Shangai and Taipei because it never have been under their own management but a company that lost their license in the same year before having a new name and then closing off>The branches began running from 24 August 2018. However, CAPSULE lost the license for the "NIJISANJI" brand and they abandoned the name on 29 March 2019, changing their name to VEgo.
>>32348346Andi adinata from maha 5 with 639k subs..i dont know any other than him
>>32348368Yeah, it's called "chinatown"
>>32348004People make a lot of fuss over “unicorns” supposedly harassing and trying to control them not to collab with males but I kind of wonder if the opposite isn’t true.Isn’t it pretty likely that they actually feel pressured to collab with males so they don’t look like they’re pandering to incels or whatever.A lot of the vtuber community looks down on people that don’t want to watch males regardless of the actual reasons behind it.
>>32348360Are you a retard? That's fucking obvious. What Im saying is that Nijisanji doesn't give "Ex" to the name of anyone. They are Nijisanji. The own vtubers pick it. I literally gave you the example from gamers and seeds in how they do the same thing since 2018. ID and KR do the same like them, because even though they are in Nijisanji, they still want to show their origins.
>>32348428Thats why both homobeggar and unicucks deserve the rope
>>32348217That is why they are shitters and will never reach Pekora's feet
>>32348020EN 3 illustrators>Fumikane>Yoshinori>Konishi>Parsley>FujikawaTheme has been decided but is not leaked yet. All 5 members will speak fluent English and Japanese and will collab with holoJP on a regular basis.
>>32348194>>32348220>>32348238See >>32341191
>>32348492Kys liar. EN3 is never happening.
>>32348255>HoloproEN twitter name change matters when less than 30% of male fans use twitter, nonetheless live on it like sisters>losing clipnormies to Project Kawaii of all trash hole 3views>losing its distinctiveness in the market when any enfranchised fan knows that "idol" is something the chuubas turn into for maybe 2 times a year for holofes and their 3dlive, 90% of the rest of the time they're more like entertainers or 'tarentos'cool thesis sis
>>32348492>fumikanefirst mechasis vtuber since Roboco?
Why does IRyS not openly accept gachikoi and unicorns? She could capture the audience that others are abandoning and incline.
>>32348255I know you mentioned Kawaii but I think Phase would be a good small corpo to look at since they've been inclining a seemingly present themselves as an alternative to Holo and NijiI don't think we're likely to get anyting super conclusive with the StarsEN HoloEN comparisons. Kronii has been in the process of reclining for a bit so it's difficult to say, one way or the other
>>32348518Finally ASMR is banned. I hope soon it will be blanket ban on this kind of content on Youtube.
>>32348403Nah. Andi was trying to jump ship to NijiID because Maha5 just doesn't have the global appeal he badly wanted.
>>32348255I belib
>>32348403that's actually pretty decent number, what's his content?if they can pull it right, starsID can do well (MAYBE not Kobo tier but mid tier ID isnt bad)
>>32348349virgin english celebvs Chad ingod celebs.
>>32348349Isn't this bitch also collabing with Magni?
>>32348528Most of the girls still refer to themselves as idols regardless of your schizo take on what a "true idol" is
>>32348492>ParsleyI would kill for EN Chloe but I don't think Hololive reuses designers.
>thinking 2views will siphon HoloviewsKek. Even with absolute no streams from EN, the views barely went down. Debut of EN3 will show insane numbers that will trump Salami.
>>32348614you can't be saved if you're incapable of understanding a 4 years running joke
>>32348255I’d rather not lose Holo EN in the pursuit of science, thanks.Also I’m mad now that you’ve reminded me of management’s attempt to blur the lines. I’d like to see them pull those same stunts with the JPs.
>>32348255this is what homobeggars want to believe
>>32347750You're too slow
>>32348255>With Project Kawaii resembling what holoJP and holoEN themselves getting close to nijiEN in terms of content, I am seeing that both companies will be able to siphon customers from holoEN and even starsENI can confirm this thesis, since I only watch and give money to HoloJP and Kawaii
>>32348630Korone and Civia has the same mama IIRC. same with Spade Echo and Ayame, and or course there's Ordan with Miko, A-chan, Nodoka, and Sora. but yeah they don't do repeat mamas on the recent ones.
>>32348614doesnt matterkiara (a real, successful idol) said that holomem are not real idols
>>32348255The best shitposting is the one the anon actually believes.
>>32348255>1. Constant collabs between male and female will result in a net gain of viewers for males and net loss of viewers for female vtubersi dont understand this logic, the boys and the girls has different audience no? i get it will make the girls recline but how come it makes the male incline just by collabing with girl, when the audience are different?
>>32348528Hi EN-homobeggar.1. Twitter handle change is about the direction of the management. As an analogy, it is a symptom of a "disease", not the disease itself.2. Project Kawaii and nijiEN are just examples. There might be other corpo in the future.3. I never talk about "idol" stuff. The distinction of hololive from other vtuber agencies is pretty clear. They are females only, and they don't outright whoring themselves out (albeit there are lewd undertone from time to time).
>>32348317>They invest a lot more in 3D, AR and other technologies.Welp. I guess making VRstudios kinda a good investment since many would use/rent it and they could use whenever for their own concert. But, their 2D and 3D shitty in-house rigger still pisses me off
>>32348630Hololive reuses designers for outfits.
>>32348731Of course you're a kfp
>>32348583gaming , cover etc, just like usual vtuber content.well despite his high subs, his ccv is pretty low
I can't believe angry birds is leeching off of bae of all peoplehttps://twitter.com/AngryBirds/status/1565639874191020038
>>32348673The official Hololive JP twitter already constantly retweets StarsJP's tweets and schedules.It's my personal theory why people don't like the main channel, it feels like spam.https://twitter.com/hololivetv
>>32348742Eigo Jouzu!
>>32348808Thanks man
>>32348673But they did. Once upon a time, a certain beyblade vtuber was rising to divide the stigma between Holo and Homo. Sadly, he was caught by management and got charged with false accusation of underground beyblade gambling. This guy was able to get attention to Coco and Watame.
>>32348564Kronii was reclining but stagnated for a few months already. Currently it is hard to say I agree, however I think the reason is that she hasn't done the collab as regularly to be able to make it into the factor.
>>32348518That's not really new though, it's the same restrictions that she's been dealing with since March
>>3234877539K. holy hell how?
>>32348775reminder that this was at 120 likes the other night and people said dead account
>>32348255>Mori has trash numbers>Bae has trash numbers>Mumei has good numbers>Fauna has good numbers>Gura has good numbersI wonder what the correlation is
>>32348523
>Just 10K nijiJP , Bro just 10k stream i’m not ask you for much ? TT please
>>323489083 of these stream good games
>>32348803I was more referencing the Omega tweet and the watch party they did on the Holo EN channel for Stars EN.
>>32348738Long story short, the girls will be seen as accessories to the boys if they collab frequently.
>>32348775>Bae will incline using normie powerThat's kinda scary if it works
Ayame 3D frame is up. Hoping she follows the new 2022 3D meta and not Aquaslip's
>>32348775Their tweets prior were barely breaking 500 likes lmao
>>32348747I particularly dont care too much because i really only care about it not being idk, gura 2nd outfit level. so in any agency i just dont want to be a mess.now 3D? thats a gift you have, so if 3D is terrible, thats a problem to mefor anycolor, i think they invest more in 3D and AR because of concerts and events where they need to use 3D, so they see it more worthy than 2D
>>32348928August 2023
btw what happen with VirtualReal (Official NijiCN)?
>>32348890It was, their last tweets got 500 likes and before this I don't think they got a single 5digit like tweet in years
>>32348931cope
>>32349012They are still streaming.
>>32348931Gura could stream JRPGs every day and still mog those cum dumps
>>32348908Being a normalfag whore with a bf = good numbers
>>32349012Aren't they part of Nijifes?
>>32348775>>32348881>>32348982>caring about twitter numbersDont make the same mistake as nijiniggers
>>32348946That would be nice, the zoomer rat could finally have a zoomer audiencd
>>32348775>>32348881>>32348946>>32348982Where did these people come from then? It didn't come from Bar, it definitely isn't from Angry Birds. How'd this trend?
>>32348540You want the ship version or the jet version?
>>32349012wdym what happen? they still are active. they just announced 3 new members a few days ago. and a few months ago they added a fleshtuber into virtuareal starvirtuareal will be in nijifes, be it in 2d and also in 3D
>>32349037are they bigger than fake NijiCN
>>32349012They are still around.That's about as much as I can tell you because as far as we are concerned bilibili might as well be on Mars for all that we care about them.
>>32349102no
>>32349054HomoStars and Bae have the same audience as NijiEN
>>32348908Having a boyfriend=big numbers?Seriously why do people keep pretending to be unicorns for Mumei and Fauna?
>>32349102Cope virtualnigger. EN js bigger than virtuareal will ever be
>>32349066It went viral because LOL anime girl plays angry birds
>>32349097>they added a fleshtuber into virtuareal starWhat
>>32349124how
>>32349097thing with virtuareal is that their management is from bilibili and they are a joint venture between anykara and bili2, so they are a chinese branch but they arent exactly a branch but their own company where two others own their shares. imagine the pokemon company with nintendo, gamefreak and creatures
Despite lazulight and hana going to Japan for a 3D, I don't think they will have enough time to practice dancing or singing when they get there. Are they just going to use paid dancers while lip syncing?
>>32349044So why doesn't Kronii have good numbers?
>>32348738It's typical hindsight analysis and drawing conclusions from that.People see Niji males get way higher numbers than the girls and then assume that the boys get advantages from the girls and the girls lose fans because of male collabs.In reality, the decline of Nijigirls is more likely due to Hololive blowing up and being the de-facto group to watch for female vtubers.Even then, most of the strong Nijigirls (Sanbaka, Sasaki/Shiina) didn't decline that much, they just didn't incline either so their numbers look bad in 2022 compared to Holos, who have massively inclined.In NijiEN, most of the girls numbers were bad from the start and some are slightly better now so idk where this whole "females are accessory to the boys" thing comes from when from the very start, they already had worse numbers than the boys. Millie and Finana aren't going get thousands of more viewers if NijiEN males didn't exist.
I knew it! Subaru self insert as Rise instead of MC!
>>32349177>dancing or singingNijisanji is not idols, no one cares about that
>>32349177>dancingwho said they will dance?
>>32349161https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/VirtuaReal#VirtuaReal_Stargot it wrong, it wasnt a fleshtuber but VAvirtuareal star is a project where big chinese celebrities become vtubers under virtuareal
>>32349141Mumei could've fucked the entire country of Canada before joiningfor all unicorns care, you really don't understand the mentality of a unicorn if you think that is a deal breaker.
>>32349216Subaru is a whore. We get it Aqua
>>32349071i'm ogey with mobile suit girls please be a loli like Base-chan
>>32349141Sister, you are basically admitting unicorn gave them those number
>>32349177Did you mix up Hololive and Nijisanji? Why would they need to dance? They're not idols.
>>32349054>mistakeWhat mistake? Look at this banger of a tweet from a huge NijiEN talent. HoLOLs wish they could get this level of interaction. Surely all these likes on Twitter translate to viewers.
>>32349216this is relevant to my interests. but also, Numbers?
https://youtu.be/UY9MNJwmcWIholy shit botan -> ayame -> marine funnel incoming ?
>>32349276That's semen, not drool
>>32349276Pussy juice stains when?
>>32349214Those Niji girls that are still doing well are Holo adjacents that's why people keep saying Nijisanji blocking off Holo collabs is a dumb move.
>>32349177anon, do you realize they are going to be in nijifes in a panel and not exactly doing a 3D debut? they also dont need to dance if they dont want to. Oliver didnt dance or sing on his 3D debut.>>32349214This thing for being acessories is such retardation because it ignores Belmond, Hajime, Kou and many males who are behind many female nijis.
>>32349276it definitely cum, she had raw sex, and someone spurt it outside
>>32349012They're up to wave 17 I think? Something like that.
>>32349214>idk where this whole "females are accessory to the boys" thing comes from when from the very start, they already had worse numbers than the boys.It comes from the fact that the females only get good numbers when in a collab with a male. And by good numbers I mean "literally 5-10 times as much as they get regularly" which gives off the impression that they are only there to support the boys and are irrelevant when ever they aren't being eye candy
>>32349210she's a maidenless lesbian
>>32349326No, they aren't. Mito isn't holo adjacent, Ange isn't holo adjacent, Salome isn't, Lize isn't, Sasaki isn't, Nui isn't, you can go on. Even your examples with Hoshikawa, she does like 1 collab 3 months, while with Toko she only collab frequently with Suisei.
>>32349214NijiEN is not really a good metric because the males and females debut at different time except for iluna (and look at iluna's males and females numbers).For exgamers as you mentioned the females really did reclined while males are getting better numbers. Hololive exploded is not a really good factor because some people only watch niji but not holo (and vice versa). You can see this in starsJP as well. CCV is an indication for the frequencies of female collabs for holostarsJP. The higher the ccv, the more that holostar collabed with female chuubas.
>>32349141>>32349257I'm not a fan of Fauna or Mumei, but they don't have collabs or talk about men on Twitter like Kronii. This helps to keep kayfabe and fans who don't know about their rm are not affected
>>32349249They had a drama last time they hired a top streamer, leading to graduation / termination.
>>32348523I know this smell...
>>32349276
>>32349389Rumao. Do your reps
>>32349385But this type of behavior always happens when less popular vtuber hosts more popular vtuber for a collab.Like a Gura collab basically took Reine from 2k to 15k, but calling HoloID a HoloEN accessory is stupid.No shit Mysta can take Petra to 10k in a collab, he's way more popular than she is.
>>32349385So how about the many other males who aren't big and only get big numbers when they collab with the big girls? Have you seen belmond streams? hes on the 1k range and get big numbers when he collab with Ars or Ange, like 6k with ars or over 10k. Is he also an acessory? this has nothing to do with gender but some female being less popular than other male and some female being more popular than other male. its a simple logic when looking at the entire thing
>>32349276Why would you tweet this shit. Is everyone in NijiEN legitimately retarded (not the cute kind)
>>32349269No I’m saying all the people here pretending their unicorns for Mumei or Fauna are LARPing SEAniggers who just want to stir the muh idol culture pot.
>>32348518>meanwhile vox's rape asmr is still up
Do you think Holofest 4 would be bigger than this year and would Cover ask Myth and ID 1 to make a new OG song or cover a song for a performance next year? I assume Holofest would now be 3 days instead of 2 since there would be holox, id2 and council performing. In 2024, they don't need to increase the days again since 3 days is enough to fit JP7, EN 3 and ID 3 on stage. I wonder if Cover would also provide branch OG songs to EN and ID so they could perform as one branch on the stage when they get to japan.
Why doesn't Ollie collab with ecelebs anymore? Couldn't she have squeezed herself in with Kobo? She could also hit up with OTV and trash taste again
>>32349463i dont think anyone from vr star ever graduated. most recent graduation from vr is from the main vr and it was the girls who died irl
>>32349276Damn, this is too much for a desperation....Is she still reclining?
>>32349487Gura and Reine don't collab every week now do they?
>>32349214I think that's the biggest difference between Vspo and Nijisanji. Vspo managed to keep their girls individuality intact which Nijisanji management couldn't achieve for their girls and could only relegate them as mere accessories to other male talents.
>>32349532Is management lying to the Holos, or is Youtube unfairly targeting Hololive?
>>32349414>except for iluna (and look at iluna's males and females numbers).You seem to greatly overestimate the difference.They're all in the 1-3k range now and Aster is the worst performing male in the branch.> CCV is an indication for the frequencies of female collabs for holostarsJP. The higher the ccv, the more that holostar collabed with female chuubas.That's because StarsJP is very unpopular and HoloJP is popular. If Tempus collabed with StarsJP, their numbers would be up too because they're more popular than StarsJP.
Did Kobo and Vesper mindbreak numberfags that much that they start to throw baseless baits in this thread?
>>32349545ollie isn't entertaining, anon. she's also ridiculously bad at Apex while kobo was able to talk and play with ecelebs in valorant last night. go figure.Kobo is gonna be collabing in games with ecelebs and she can also collab with ID singers
>>32349602You forgot Aia.
>>32349532yt is very racist and misogynisticwhat do you expect?
>>32349565Or management aren’t willing to risk Okayu channel going down.
>>32349214At the end of the day, isn’t that effectively the same reason for their decline despite specifics?The conclusion either way seems to be that most people just want to watch cgdct and Hololive provided that in spades by creating a female only group.
>>32349488You are just looking at the conclusion and not the reason behind it. Ange, Ars and Chigusa could've higher ccv if they are in VSPO. Their numbers in nijiJP are already nerfed numbers. Also for some reason the "accessory" problem, which is not an accurate description of it anyway, is not that prominent in terms of fps heavy content creators than variety streamers.
>>32349628both mindbroke nijisisters, nijisis. Numbersfags are celebrating their numbers since they both beat nijikeks at their own game. Was a pretty embrassing week for nijiEN
>>32348986>they invest more in 3D and AR because of concerts and events where they need to use 3DThey keep saying this shit but, their 3Ds are inconsistent af! while cover has a visible improvement on their 3D. Niji's 3D are either good (holo level) like Aiba's or Tomoe's or really shitty like leos, kuzuha, or those power ranger wave girls
Why do people continue to question why EN girls collabs with the new boys? It's just like that since Tempus has no collab partners. Look at how IRyS and Council had to collab with IDs. Male collabs will be less frequent as more male gens get created.
>>32349557>Gura and Reine don't collab every week now do they?You seem to greatly overestimate the number of single POV male x female collabs in NijiEN.The vast majority of these collabs are split POVs where the males get most of the viewers because their more popular and the girls either get their regular numbers or get slaughtered by overlap.You still haven't answered the question. How is it different from when a much less popular vtuber hosts a more popular one, regardless of gender? Someone like Pomu can host a collab with Ren/Aster/Kyo and not get the mythical "male" boost because they're less popular than she is.
>females are accessory to the boysThat just Holobronies's narrative to doompost NijiEN. Now that they have went too deep with it, they have no choice but to keep pretending its true because otherwise it means everything they said about NijiEN were wrong
>>32349602>hat's because StarsJP is very unpopular and HoloJP is popular.No. What I mean is not just collab between holo and stars. Roberu also had outside collabs too. The only constant here is more female collab = higher number>If Tempus collabed with StarsJP, their numbers would be up too because they're more popular than StarsJPMaybe but that is beside the point. I am talking about male and female dynamic here in my theory.
>>32349542two to four days is the usual length for anime conventions. I think JP is fine. They have enough chuubas already.EN and ID are lacking vtubers.
>>32349214Men and women in general don't enjoy the same content. Just like women typically will not watch a self insert anime harem, a man won't watch the Bachelor. This is how it almost always works for content. Unless your content is something with extremely generic and wide appeal you will end up with a lopsided gender ratioLikewise, men are not as interested in watching male vtubers and women aren't as interested in watching female vtubers. These trends are not just scene in vtubing but in the anime industry in general. If a group of ikemen is the main focus you simply won't have a male audience. Hololive has this even MORE SO because a non negligible portion of their audience came to them because of their "don't interact with males" idol reputation. With enough male collabs the holo girls will lose their current male fanbase. This DOES NOT MEAN their numbers will go down necessarily, it just means their audience will shift, as NIjiEN has already experienced. But that does not mean the girls would escape becoming accessories, because sisters aren't interested in watching girls otherwise.
>>32349214>In reality, the decline of Nijigirls is more likely due to Hololive blowing up and being the de-facto group to watch for female vtubersThe Nijigirls reclined precisely because they were vulgar and had collabs with males
>>32349724They are collabing with random e-celebs, too.
Go die nijishillAlso Ayame ez 80k
>>32349736Female Nijis are treated like accessories that's why the end up not getting numbers from collabs with men. It has nothing to do with their popularity at all.
>>32349779>Why are Roberu's collabs with Mea and Haneru more popular than his collabs with other StarsJP?Anon please. Most of StarsJP are 3views.
>>32349755>females are accessory to the boysAgain. This is just a tongue in cheek way of explaining why females numbers are always lower in a mixed gender group. The real reason is probably way complicated than that, however we have solid data regarding generally lower ccv for females in a mixed gender vtuber groups to prove that this is the result, we just don't have a good explanation of why it is so.
Axel is going to stream APEX rankeds with RPR and Restia, opinion on his numbers?
Axel Rpr collab tomorrow
>axel is going to have an apex ranked collab with rpr and restiawho the fuck is restia?
>>32349561>>32349690so why none of you talk about my belmond example with him being buffed when he collab with more popular girls? why hajime isnt an acessory to mito, kaede and others when he does collab with them and his numbers get higher? im still waiting on a response on males who arent that popular getting bigger numbers just like in your example
>>32349755Newfag, Niji girls being called accessories to men started in JP. Lurk more, moron.
>>32349859>>32349779his group of friends are well sorta big
>>32349896>>32349899>>32349900Homo leechs in action kek
>>32349896Just collab with towa
Why are we having a civilized discussion at seahour?
>>32349690Ange, Chigusa and ars in vspo? are you fucking retarded?none of them have fps abilities to be in there
Mori play valo????
>>32349859Yes, and the one that constantly collab with females can get out of 3view hell and get 4view on average of his stream.
>>32349900>>32349899>>32349896towa.....
>>32349816How much are you willing to bet that holo will still be more popular than kawaii in 5 years?
>>32349896Shit numberDude even lost to fucking Astel in the other day
>>32349932Just like his senpai Towa, so smart.
>>32349896How long until Axel collabs with Towa? I would like that more than her usual leeches
>>32349951she's going to be completely useless
>>32349565more like people might be reporting holo streams at higher rateit's still not clear what yt will ban as far as asmr content. Aria's channel is back with all her asmr vod intact afaik. she's done new ones that i would consider to be lewd without further ban. so it's not just loli model + lewd asmr. they never explained the original ban.
jesas mori is literally going to play valorant just to collab with the homos lol
>>32349532It's age restricted though >>32349565>>32349676It's not a youtube thing, cover management is just really risk averse and doesn't want to tempt youtube
>>32349839>Female Nijis are treated like accessoriesThis is what holobronies doesnt want to happen to HoloEN Girls, Look at Bae, its slow but show its impact on her CCV's. Ollie's case is too dratic the she must felt regret to it.
>>32349944Just because you don't understand what is being discussed doesn't mean it is civil.
>>32349980Vsaikyou
>Altare said valo collab with magni, ollie kobo and morikinda chuckle
>>32349932kuzuha way
>>32349896>>32349899>>32349900Kino. We can finally see Axel's power being unleashed. It's really a good thing Yagoo showed us bro tuber is the way to go.
>>32350015Too many words, too sleepy too tired to read desu
>>32349980when astel joins towa in the same team
>>32350032>moriWas actually good line up until her
>>32349896300ms
>>32350032I bet Ame will join.
>>32349825>He says then when Ange has been keeping the same 11k for yearsNijigirls reclined because they're not as entertaining as Holos and the others were never popular to begin with
>>32350032throw in bae as well
im still waiting for anyone to explain to me why belmond, kou, hajime, air, naruse and many less popular males who get better numbers when they collab with more popular female aren't accessories. why the less popular males getting in it like this are ignored? just to support a dumb narrative?
>>32350032mori doin far, playin valo for the first time only to have a reason to collab with the boys lol
>>32350062Eat more pagpag
>>32349911I already said that you are looking at the conclusion instead of the reason behind it. Your boy Belmond is fucking boring and should be a 3view while Ars and Ange could probably get 5views without the boys. These are already their normalized numbers taking into account the buffs and debuffs.
>>32349736The difference is that Gura and Reine don't collab every week, so Reine doesn't seem like an accessory when she mostly does her own streams without relying on gura carrying her.Meanwhile you couldn't go a week without enna sucking dudes on stream for numbers.
>>32349545>It's okay for Kobo to collab with ecelebs>It's not okay for Ollie to collab with ecelebsWhy are indogs like this
Anyone tracked the VOD cull for all the Holo Rust finale?
>>32350113All of NijiID are an excuse to put COLLAB in the title.
>>32350142different approach, ollie only doing once and never contact again
>>32350067astel, matsuri, axel might be possible. towa... i don't know
Earth Defense Forces 6, a collaboration with Hololive, started off at the fastest pace in history with 300,000 units sold in first week.> This record is the fastest time for the series to reach 300,000 units within a week since the release Earth Defend Forces in June 2003.Ref https://www.mangasokuhou.com/?p=431413
>>32350142Indogs hate Ollie.
>>32350185If Axel suddenly gets super good Towa won't be able to help herself getting carried.
>>32350162NOgo back to your watchhours cope
>>32350186that collab is game feature
>>32349993There's a proper way to go about girls collabing with men while maintaining their dignities intact as shown by Holo girls and Vspo.Nijisanji management is just bad at it that's why their girls keep losing numbers every time they collab with the boys.
>>32350113They can't explain it because they don't even know who those people are lolThey've only lived in the NijiEN world where all the boys are effortlessly more popular than the girls (except now Aster/Ren/Kyo might be less popular so we can have some more data).
>>32350134That's all subjective as heck. What is boring for one isn't for another.The point is that some male are popular, others aren't. Some female are popular, other female aren't. The narrative for JP with the girls being acessories is dumb in the first place when Sanbaka, Mito and Salome are all in the top 10. Then you have Sasaki, Himawari, Hoshikawa, Ars and many female constantly promoted, in big events, on merchandise and it goes on
>>32350186WTF
>>32350162does it matters that they stream a lot when all the streams are garbage?
>>32350162>there is an abundant amount of poop so you have to eat them instead of the foodNijikeks please
>>32349896aren't they part of Towa's clique?
>>32350185Not gonna happened, you forgot they use Rank point system?Astel - MasterMatsuri - MasterTowa - Diamond IHow's that gonna work?
>>32350240You cannot explain why Himawari, Sasaki, Shiina are way worse performing than Kanae and Kuzuha.
>>32350128What's pag pag?
>>32350289Restia has also streamed with Astel so in reality they are just the APEX circle.
>>32350185Axel could use ping issue to go down some points
>>32350237The nijiJP girls act like literal street whores during collabs with the males you think they have any shred of dignity left?
>>32350237You are literally delusional. Management don't make collabs, the own vtubers do. Lize barely do any collabs with men, only with Mito, Sanbaka and very few female. Meanwhile other girls like to collab with other men.Outside of this retarded point, the girls in Nijisanji are out there with merchandise all the time. Nijifes literally has Sasaki, Mito, Lize and Hoshikawa as female representatives alongside Axia, Fuwa and Kuzuha as the males
>>32350162>picking a "random" day>including NijiEN males but not Tempus in the schedule>still using the outdated watch hours chart>spamming this image repeatedlyhttps://archive.alice.al/vt/search/image/0nohJplgK_17Ju0zc8t7ag/
>>32350134It's so convenient to assume there's an auto debuff for being a nijigirl. Instead of "Here's a Nijigirl who is doing well in Niji despite collabing with males", it becomes "She could be even stronger but is hampered by male collabs".Discussing hypotheticals with you is pointless.
>>32350100Fubuki was among the greatest Holos, but today she is a shitter who is daily mogged by Pekora and other Holomems who stopped having collabs with males
As if they heard about my theories here, Kobo having another collab with Regis. I hope they constantly collab and within just a few months I can test out my theories using them.
>>32350162pathetic beggar
>>32350162
>>32350240>The narrative for JP with the girls being acessories is dumb in the first place when Sanbaka, Mito and Salome are all in the top 10You're a fuckin moron. Those girls on your list are performing well relatively precisely because they avoid male collabs the most.
>>32350377>Discussing hypotheticals with you is pointless.We really don't have the data points that is not already muddied since ex gamers, so don't blame me for that.
So if HoloEN has SNOT and CHAD boxes, what do you call the Tempus-Kobo-Mori-Bea-Ollie box?
>>32350358
>>32350455Homobeggars box
>>32350455Lean box
>>32350304I can. They are less popular than Kanae and Kuzuha.Sasaki and Shiina still are fairly popular. Only Hima really decline a lot, but she still is supported a lot even with that decline.If you want a comparison of another gen where it was mixed and the girls are more popular, you have Sukoya and Ran-nee being more popular than Shellin. Or Naraka being more popular than Mashiro
>>32350091>>32350103It's a 5-player per team game. I don't know what the fuck is Mori doing there though, I guess they needed someone to fill in.
>>32349545she's annoying so nobody want to collab with her
>>32350455Horsemen of Apocalypse
>>32350455K MORBN
Nijikek please, just put out the watch hours chart and be done with it. Editting image just to say your livers are more hardworking is pathetic. There are literal 2views that is churning out content every day but I still won't watch them.
>>32347949>has a chance to be popularthey can collab freely with huge fleshtubers with 0 backlashso yeah, but i personally want idols. brotubers can be in gen2 or 3. StarsID gen 1 should be full singers with ex-utaites members
>>32350377Anon, answer me this. Which of the Niji girls that are performing well and aren't Holo adjacents nor accessories to men?
>>32350455KOMB
>>32350389> I can test out my theories using them.It's too unique of a case.Kobokers already crowned Regis as their king because what he does to Kobo on stream is what they do to her through chat.They want him to collab more with her because they self-insert as him and he draws out reactions from Kobo that they like.
>>32350531she's the one who organized it probably
>>32350455Tempus Last Hope boxLeeches Prime boxUnicorn Hunters box
>>32350455>So if HoloEN has SNOTSNOT became SNO, as Kronii treated Gura badly during HoloSummer and had collabs with Tempiss
>>32350559Bah, I wouldn't even call spamming low effort content is hard working. Literally handcam/asmr/return/collab/celebration spam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do_vuPoYrYQInteresting thing no one seems to have noticed about this collab.It's on Vesper's channel.As per HoloJP practises, if someone organizes a single POV collab, the organizer (i.e. the person who invites everyone else) gets to host it on their channel - unless it's a regularly scheduled program, in which case it might rotate between channels.If this collab was on Vesper's channel that means HE invited Bae and not the other way around. That means EN Homos don't have the JP homo restriction of "you can't invite holos".
>>32350455Nobody care about Ollie and Bae, they're not part of the box since even tempus fans hate them. Throw in Kronii instead.
>>32350525So why can you use the "less popular" argument when I can't? Anyway their numbers were comparable back in the days but the ARK arc siphoned all the viewers from the girls to the boys.
anyone else but mori..... ame/bae/zeta. please...
>>32350162 I give you a C+ for the effort, but uh... I hope you could make better use of your time and skills next time...
>>32350601Kinda weird how ID viewers love Regis so much
>>32350638>this collab was on Vesper's channel that means HE invited Baeliterally no proof retard
>>32350638>As per HoloJP practises, if someone organizes a single POV collabVesper is from HoloStars, not Hololive.
>>32350638For someone who said that a content creator lives and dies by their solo content he sure collabs a lot.
>>32350114I’m kinda surprised her viewers haven’t started questioning why she’s prioritizing the guys so much since the collab ban ended. Surely at this point she’s the only Holo that has done this many Stars collabs in such a short time.Even the viewers that like the collabs must be wondering what’s going on.
Aside from Kobo and Zeta, has Kaela ever interacted with Tempus?
>>32350358It makes me wonder. Did Nijibeggars being this annoying before Luxiem? I recall something along with them begging about the chemistry is better than HoloEN.
>>32350596Performing well as in objectively (Getting 5k+ viewers) or relative to Holos?Objectively, Sasaki, Shiina, Ars, Furen, and Nui are all doing well, collab with males sometimes/often, and aren't Holo adjacents.
>>32350678Because the collab is fun anon. A lot of people hates Ollie but they love Ollie-Kobo dynamic, same with how people hate Mori but like Mori-Magni.
>>32350740If your in EN3, you better take lesson to what happening right now
>>32350748Seethe nijinig
>>32349944It's still burger hours, check your timezones. Sea hours don't start for another 3 hours
>males will incline after collabing with femalesWhere did this come from or when did this start being the case? For the longest time HoloJP like fubuki collabing with holostar has done shit for their numbers. That's why people said using females collab to incline the boys just doesn't work
>>32350601That is even better. Since Kobo's fans are very accepting towards a Regis collab, if her number falls solely due to the collab with Regis, it means that it is not just unicorn that is the problem. There is something inherent in a mixed gender collab that favours the male which I am excited to find out.
>>32350740Cover HR intern here. I don't remember seeing any resume that have the word Rye on it
>>32350748>doesn't disprove his pointwhat's wrong with that?
>>32350748they're all a bunch of hypocrites except for Axel
>>32350774Fuck off, i don't want it to become like nijisanji
>>32350763yes, with magni on twitter once, it was about his thief stream
>>32350763yes, in twitter and some tempus also send video to her at her birthday.
>>32350759she hated collab with her female coworkers
>>32350790Kobo has been collabing with stars for months now so you have plenty of data for that already.
>>32350748He still does solo streams 5 days a week, so what's the problem?
>>32350278Kek
>>32350785Homobeggars
>>32350678Id viewers just typically likes stars in general in the first place because of risu and iofi. I mean i checked kobo's comment section when she collab with uproar and some of her viewers were actually praising stars and shitting on "the other company's male"
>>32350748He also streams solo a lot, nijifriend.
I just realized Chloe will join season 3
>>32350638>"you can't invite holos".>>32350748>For someone who said that a content creator lives and dies by their solo content he sure collabs a lot.By now you all know that Vesper is just gaslighting people and that he is just a numbernigger like any other EN male vtubers.
>>32350790Anon, the fact that her fanbase is almost entirely indogs already made your theory flawedthey have different culture and unicorns almost doesn't exist amongst indogs
>>32350748attack him when he doin his zatsudan with VC open
>>32350678They want someone to dunk on the brat, they actively revulse when she tries to be panderingly cute and laugh when she's a foulmouthed zoomer or gets bullied by a senpai. It's almost as if they are more concerned with her ability to entertain rather than some idea of purity from a culture that's very dissimilar from their own
>>32350638From day one it was clear that they are not respectful like StarsJP.Altare is always interacting with the girls in chat and posting on Twitter that they play Apex offline
>>32350849Unironically. Oboretai and Xanek, 2 of the biggest Homobeggar believe in that narrative
>>32350785It's one retard with his stupid theory, why are you taking it as fact?
Suggestion for the /#/ vs /vsj+/ hyp vid on sunday, just show how isegye is beating their asses in terms of CCV. I'd do it but im not good with editing.
>>32350858imagine if Ayame joined Rust too
>>32350899>Altare is always interacting with the girls in chat and posting on Twitter that they play Apex offlineNice bald faced lie, fucker.The only girl's chat he posts in is Kobo and he's only posted FPS tweets with Kobo and Ollie.
>>32350740Rye will be another Bae in EN3 by collabing with males, mark my word
>>32350748They are hypocrites just like Omegay
>>32350785Fubuki technically did make Oga incline in the early days but that means shit now that there’s a 39k sub difference between him (166k) and his genmate Shien (205k)
>>32350767Sasaki and Shiina are Holo adjacentsFuren and Nui don't regularly collab with menArs numbers dip down when she collabs with menLet's be honest, Niji girls become accessories when they collab with men unlike Vspo and Holo girls. C'mon anon, at least watch their streams. It becomes apparent in big Apex tournaments.
Why are unicorns so prevalent in many East Asian countries like China, Korea and Japan?
>>32350764They've always been this way, there's just more of them these days. Remember that post on space battles bragging about how nijiniggers were shilling their nijis in the hololive subreddit?
>>32350933Creative freedom and show Kekson super3D reaction image
>>32350830False, homobeggar. Kobo has only done 2 collabs with stars on her channel since her debut 6 months ago, and one of them is with Ollie. Those are just random occurrence for data collecting purposes. Now that she is doing it constantly we can see how it affects her channel.
>>32350960He's also a mod in Millie's chat so there is that too.
>>32350678>love regis>so mucheh? he's too sleep inducing compared to Manca
>>32350858/#/ told me HoloRust will die after season 2>Kronii is joining>Marine is joining>Sakamata is joining>Towa is joining>Miko is stayingThe only one quitting is Flare and it's nothingburger. Hololive will conquer this month again
>>32350952>pekora found her avatar sleepin in her wood shack in wipe day
>>32350785Stop giving one retard so much attention.It gives the boys exposure, but incline is based off of solo content. It always has been.The thread is excited about homo collabs because it MIGHT incline them and half of /#/ is /MANS/.
>>32350980Too many poor/ugly males
>>32350877Do you understand what I am trying to get to here? I am trying to prove that mixed gender collab will benefit male and detrimental to female regardless of any outside factor. JP side proved this, we can see it in ID and EN side this time around.
>>32350873It's all good as long as he doesn't have a public meltdown like the top dog in NijiEN.
I like how the favorite narrative for the Tempus schizos is the "They are hypocrites" narrative.
>>32351011lol this what pekora do in last rust stream, she destroys every member house who doesn't play much
>>32350977Uhhh, how is Sasaki holo adjacent?
>>32350858>rust season 3 arc>holocure season 2 arc>splatoon 3 arcfun month
>>32350415Those girls avoid male collabs the most? You mean Ange who drools over belmond? Mito who has collabs with Kenmochi all the time? pls anonOnly one who dont collab much with males is Lize.
>>32351059You're never going to have enough data points to discount external factors.
>>32351008With Kroni and Choco-sensei the Rust server will never be empty
>>32351008https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzwJsTUU_YUMicomet+Peko Season 3 might be too lopsided to be honest.
>>32351059>Will benefit male>JP sideWhere? When? And who ?
>>32351070it's weird, they should just call them mediocre streamers because that's what they are
>>32350790there's a lot of other factor that affected the numbersone of the factor was timezonekobo's recent male collab was one of the examplekobo's gained 30k ccv during sea primetime, but only 13k after midnight
>>32351100You've got to be fucking kidding me.
>>32350980The same reason why their population is falling
>>32350960He lives in Zeta's chat and is grooming her in Apex offline
>>32351131Who the fuck can even go against them, Botan?
>>32351008>pekora will play less but grind off stream only to wreak havoc on the last day
>>32351135It's a whole lot more difficult to counter too since it's subjective instead of objective
>>32350801>>32350963>>32350873NIjiseethe
>>32350980They take a "the customer is always right" approach to content creators and they know what they want in their content
>>32350981Oh fuck, I remember that one reddit post about Finana debut getting scuffed and someone decided to connect the dots with Holomyth debut scuff. It was so out of place and so forced, they probably thought Lazulight is from HoloEN.
>>323507851. Fubuki made the boy she collabed with inclined2. Fubuki has jack shit number and she is one of the most interesting holo around.
>>32351195Would be hype if Botan, Towa, Laplus joins the enemy team.
>>32350748he never said that with the meaning that a streamer should focus 100% on solo content, what he ment by that is that is a streamer shouldnt see collabs as a way to increase your view numbers, but a way to learn from the other person on the collab and have fun, and you should grow your comunity with you solo content, but you prob dont watch his streams so you wouldnt know what he actually said
contextless theory schizo is our trending topic tonight eh? I preferred single mom 2view chuuba personally
>>32350977Furen collab with Ibrahim al the time, Nui too. Ange collab with Belmond a lot.Sasaki hasn't done a collab with a holo since 2020. Shiina hasn't done a collab with Okayu for a while and as an original, same as Toko, Suisei and Okayu were more niji adjacent than the contrary, even more in their first years.
>>32350977>Sasaki, who is glued to Yashiro's hip, is a Holo adjacentOgey>Ars numbers dip down when she collabs with menArs literally gets her best numbers collabing with male e-celebs like k4sen.https://vrabi.net/video/wBxXM_vSV6whttps://vrabi.net/video/ovQb-8c3jq8https://vrabi.net/video/S45JZI_4_nIhttps://vrabi.net/video/RkZyuUbiOhAhttps://vrabi.net/video/Vv30w3t9bLg
>>32351018>half of /#/ is /MANS/.You wish, sister. I would say most of mans are niji viewers too but I just don't want to embarrass you girls.
>>32350980These countries have the highest average IQ in the world, so logically the unicorns would be the majority
>>32350638Might very well be that Mating Press made the offer and they just decided to host it on Nowa's channel to keep hers "clean", as Kronii mentioned.Didn't she collab on StarsJP channels too? What would be the difference in that case?
>>32351144>31k sea primetime,10/11pm is too late actually. try 8pmdifferent game too
>>32351254God that was so good, and the groomed tranny was just the cherry on top.
>>32351242Sad how people keep misinterpreting his quote. Threadreaders will be threadreaders I suppose.
Since stars are on topic at the moment, male indie chuuba duo slash ex-utaites MonsterZMate released three prerecorded collab videos with Aruran, Oga, Roberu, and Shien on their channel. Here’s some view numbers:>Cream Puff Russian Roulette - 141,277 views (posted 10 days ago)https://youtu.be/E7yBnmWHFNI>Nchi Nchi Game - 88,092 views (posted 3 days ago)https://youtu.be/HhgnP60Qx0w>Talking about Chiikawa - 68,579 views (posted 20 hours ago)
>>32351239>LaplusShe'd be fucking great in Rust but it'll never happen. Her fucking lore setup works perfectly with Rust it's such a shame she would rather court ecelebs
>>32350790My theory is that girls are highly buffed by cgdct but when they interact with guys too often they lose that image and therefore the buff.The people left that don’t care about cgdct are going to watch the better player which is almost always going to be the guy.
>>32351242>but you prob dont watch his streams so you wouldnt know what he actually saidFuck off, i watch him but i don't approve of him becoming the village bike in regards to hololive collabs.
>>32351287Kronii would be the difference, thanks to the clock's call of attention she made a precedent.
>>32351277omg i forgot sasaki does a lot of collabs with yashiro. you also forgot ars is close with Fuwa
>>32350032Was okay till Mori. She doesn't even play fps
>>32350933>Wrestling video>Undertaker (/#/) dominates everyone montage>Undertaker sees VShojo walks in>Is just another prey
>>32351302They just want to use his quote to dunk on Nijis and iLUNA in particular, when most of iLUNA's collabs are intra-branch, just like Tempus's ungodly collab spam.Unintentionally making him look like a hypocrite, when he has been consistent all this time.
>>32350980My theory is that it's not a cultural difference but holoJP has mostly adult male otaku fans while Kobo has a lot of underage normie fans.
>>32351311Holox, gen4 and gen5 vs the senpais would be kino storyline though. Imagine the numbers
>>32351210I mean this the numbers thread, so there are objective arguments to call them mediocrethey're not as bad as most of nijiEN but let's be honest, there's no one in Tempus who's exceptionally good
>>32351070You mean the nijicope?
>>32351118>>32351144Ok, I will make this clear once again.1. I am talking about in general, not when they are in a collab, i.e., with constant collabs between Regis and Koboa). Regis will eventually increase in his average ccv and floorb). Kobo will eventually decrease in her average ccv and floorWe will not be seeing any result with just 1 or 2 stream, but we need to see the monthly average, and they have to have regular collabs for the data to mean anything, so this is stricter criteria than you thought.
>>32351419Of course. I think it'd be amazing. But some of these girls just don't care.
>>32350983I feel like that's too easy, they probably get hit with that on the daily. Something numbers related like that anon suggested sounds better.
>>32351212I hate Tempiss and love Hololive. Unlike the homobeggar tourists
>>32351310Forgot the link to the last videohttps://youtu.be/ODOdVuuRgiUAlso, MZM’s recorded video collab views usually range anywhere from as low as 50k to as high as 250k+ depending on the guest but they’re low 3views when streaming
So did any of iluna get past 2k today?
>>32351070>Magni picks streams he think will be interesting for his viewers>LOOK AT THIS SCHEDULE. THERE'S NO WAY HE'S NOT A NUMBERFAGSorry he doesn't pick dogshit games like The Last Campfire and Live and live and filter out half his audience.
>>32351330This might be the reason, but we need to prove that the "male debuff" or "female accesory" is true first before we can formulate the next hypothesis.
>>32351464Then why do you type like a nijinigger?
>>32351420Yes but the same can be said about some of the Hologirls and yet some anons say that is their appeal, for example I can't fucking watch Mumei's autism and yet other anons love that shit.
>>32351018>and half of /#/ is /MANS/Fuck you, homobeggar
>>32351492>Sorry he doesn't pick dogshit games like The Last Campfire and Live and live and filter out half his audience.During his interview with Uncle Nowa, he literally said that he will pick the shittiest options for streams. He is just gaslighting the viewers like Uncle Nowa.
>>32351555NIjiseethe
>>32351399>adult maleThey struggle to meet their daily needs in a harsh society, especially if they are unmarried and 30 years old.
>>32351464this, is it really so hard to believe that there are people here who love hololive but despise starsEN? literally all they had to do was stay in their lane, but no they just HAD to start collabing with the girls every week
>>32351555>>32351278Cope bitches. /#/ was commentating throughout Vesper's collab today.Like or not, you're the minority.
>>32351533Why do you love males like Nijiniggers?
>>32351478you know the answer anon don't pretend
>>32351478Nope.
>>32351478None. Which is funny because people were specifically doomposting Tempus to be 1k shitters.
>>32351604>Actual nijinigger behavior
>>32351577For the first week, because he wanted people to come for him and not the games he plays. No where did he say he will pick shit games to get low numbers. Why do nijiniggers love being disingenuous so much.
>>32350455The Regis altare boxThe most powerful man on vt
>>32351555As much as you might want to deny it, we're here and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>32351443english will filter most of Kobo's audience. it's not about the gender. management should let her collabing mostly with bahasa indonesia speakers, they are slowly killing her with frequent HoloEN and HomoEN collabs.
Guys, is Polka GFE Holo?
>>32348255> 1. Constant collabs between male and female will result in a net gain of viewers for males and net loss of viewers for female vtubers> This theory is tried and tested in nijiJPNo you retard Fubuki, Suisei, several NijiJP male shitters and Shibuya fucking Hajime exist as a counter to that.Collabs don't do anything other than introduce the Audience of talent #A to talent #B (where #A is the bigger talent).If talent #B appeals to audience #A, they will get some additional numbers e.g. Kobo --> Regis.Niji girls and Holo girls used to collab all the time back in 2019.What happened then? The audience went towards those who entertained them more, which was Hololive. Hence the shutdown of a lot of JP Niji collabs, to stop this audience leakage from niji --> holo.This eventually equalizes with enough "pair" collabs such that the audience doesn't flow one way or another. Resulting in consistent pairings like TokoMachi, Shiina-Okayu etc.> Diluting the distinction between hololive EN and holostars EN will reduce the prestige of hololive brand overallHololive EN perhaps, HoloJP will remain unaffected. They have separate audiences with only minimal overlap. There's no reason to think the EN reputation will taint the JP branch, just like how NijiJP's reputation is fine despite all the retardation from NijiEN.
>>32351577At least pretend to watch streams.He said that for his debut week he wanted people to come to the streams to watch him, not the games.It's been a fucking month and he's fully justified to pick games he thinks his viewers will like.
>>32351604Because it has big numbers? /mans/ are acting like nijibeggars in that they will force their shitty ccv streams down the number thread just to promote their little shitters.
>>32351652Maybe not the standard GFE, but she is certainly parasocial with her fanbase.
>>32351632>>32351668He didn't say that.
>>32351586>>32351604Discord and Leddit tourists will never be true Hololive fans. You are only here to turn HoloEN into Vwhorejo and NijiCN
>>32351630>/#/ celebrating when Vesper beat Alban and kneeling to Yagoo for StarsEN>Actual nijinigger behaviorAt least be consistent, you mental midget
>>32351538are you illiterate? when I say objective arguments I'm obviously talking about numbersif Tempus can only get high numbers by collabing with the girls then they're obviously not very good at their job
>>32351631it's uncle nowa anon
You guys do know that kobo's majority fanbase encourage her to collab with males right? The problem with males x females collab is that they always get overshadowed by their male counterpart. Take kobo for example, she didn't shy down and got overshadow by the male ecelebs yesterday.
>>32348908counterpoint : man-loving Towa and Fubuki have better numbers than the man-hating Flare.
>>32351624How did NijiEN recline so much? Not enough collabs to artificially inflate their numbers?
>>32351631lol
>>32351602In /#/? Yes. Tempus has earned their spot here by utterly schooling iluna after nijiniggers boasted about their gen to the moon. You're free to go to the catalogue and make your own thread seething about tempus but don't come into numbers expecting this place to be /jp/
>>32351709Ah with arguments you meant numbers, ok, i guess i was being illiterate.
>>32351727And are destroyed by Pekora
>>32351706https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-eYcRYUXpc literally a 40k animated clip of it
>>32351652This is why it's retarded to put something like GFE in such a tight box. Most of the JPs exhibit GFE to varrying degreesDoes Polka go Full Rushia and call chat her boyfriends and sell engagement rings? No. Does she pander hard to her gachikois and make her entire recent orisong about how much she loves her viewers in a parasocial way? Yes
>>32351768NijiEN has always been this bad, nijiniggers just fooled you into thinking otherwise by focusing on the few streams that they get 10k while sweeping under the rug the endless streams of 1-2k streams
Vt has less people active than Reddit and Discord during dead hours, and yet people here act like vt somehow owns this industry. What a weird timeline
>>32351636Your Discord has been raiding /vt/ for days now, but you will never be welcome here, homobeggar
>>32351864Reddit and discord are also all faggots, which is a higher proportion that /vt/ which is only mostly full of faggots
>>32351901Cope and seethe nijinig
>>32351827Hot take, well, maybe not so hot. GFE is retarded and meaningless term because every female will attract certain amount of males to some degree and will tell you she's their GFE.
>>32351721>kobo's majority fanbase encourage her to collab with males right?no. just indonesian youtubers
>>32350162Who has the time to watch all that?just to understand their jokes when you click on a random stream?It's all sludge, like a content factory churning out "streams" with no regard for being entertaining or having any form of structure or vibe.Only consoomers would like NijiEN, not people with life obligations, who like a selection of more curated content that Hololive provides.
>>32351864>RedditThis is not true. /#/ alone gets more posts in like 3 days than /r/hololive gets in an entire day>discordmaybe but only because they are unironic schizos who need to organize raids 24/7
>>32351901Why are you nijiniggers so scared of Tempus?
>>32351950fuck i meant /#/ gets more posts in three threads
>>32351937Dilate, homobeggar
>>32350142Ollie shat on her local fanbase, back when she thought that ID market is non existent won't ever be sustainable. Big mistake.
>>32351234is that the only one you remember?here let me refresh your memory.
>>32351604>minority copeDon't push it, you're basically in Pekora's split
https://youtu.be/Qwk5z1VbXIw>Comment full of Russian, Romanian, Spanish, German.HoloEU onegai
>>32351812>great number compare the rest video animationthey will do more hololive related animation
>>32350608Nah, I could see Ollie being the one to organize, or Kobo since it's Valo.
>>32351950And reddit gets thousands of up votes every day while numbers get 1-2k a day at best, what's your point?
>>32351959Normies want to use Tempiss as a tool to turn HoloEN into NijiCN
>>32351287Bae has had One of the Roberu collabs in her channel (split Pov though).
>>32351997Numa numa is unironically EU the song so yeah that makes sense.
>>32350678Kobo is the ID version of Pekora, adjusted to their cultural sensibilities
>>32352015Anon we have just went through 500 comments in 2 hours, and we're just one genera;.
>>32351901>>32351950I'm starting to suspect that these nijiniggers are acting like complete retards to discredit the idea of discord raids so it gets met with mockery whenever it's brought up
>>32350455The mythical NijiEN box
>>32350142western fans dislike western e-celebs (trash taste)ollie collabed with edho zell (indonesian e-celebs) just fine
>>32352066Roberu also has a Bae collab on his channel, the one where he ate vegemite.(7.5k)https://vrabi.net/video/YFbaW7z255A
>>32351997It's fucking kobo of all people... how strong is this girl
>>32351988NijiKeks always wants their NijiCN to be injected on every holo conversation>KEK
>>32352086Made by 90-150 people, and that's assuming every single ip is a new person. That's barely the population of a single low pop reddit post
>>32352015>upvotes mattering at allAnon the literal talents can't even get 10k.
>>32350455TOMBremoving Kobo since her audience is separate
>>32352015>1-2kAnon? This is numbers. We get that much just timelooping Kronni male collabs. We burn through threads if there's an event
>>32352188Look at IPs, not posts.There's not that many people here, people just spam/shitpost/argue about stupid shit.
>>32348955Nah. She is too busy playing LoL [spoilers] taking care of her loved ones [/spoiler] to get updated with the current meta.
>>32352098>if you don't like HomoStars you are a Nijinigger Nice demoralization tactic, discord sister
>>32352239literally just ctrl+s you tourist
>>32352170>Made by 90-150 peopleThe golden rules is of 4chins is that they are at least 10x more lurkers than active users minimum. In /vt/'s case I would there must be shitload of lurkers around here.
>>32352175And that's like seven times more people than post in these threads, what's your point?
>>32352234That's not the point though. Regardless of this place being samefag central it still remains the most active centralized place to discuss vtubers in the west. Of course that will it some degree of weight
>>32351775Nah, fuck off, both NijiEN and HomoEN have garbage numbers, they both deserve to be made fun of
>>32351604Choke on it, beggar. I both watch and subbed to Vesper an id STILL vote to reinforce the status quo of NO MALES for everyone in HoloEN bar Mori and Bae. Kronii accepting that collab and her e suing actions were dumb errors on her part.
Subaru>34kHow is she still maintaining it and inclining on top of it? Will P5 give her 40k average numbers on her weekend jrpgs?
>>32351602>love hololivespecifyHoloEN is not HoloJP
>>32352293But not 7 times more the activity which is what the original poster claimed
What's with the sudden collab beggar posting after Kobo broke 30k yesterday? Do you think that stars will get a funnel from Kobo fans?Not a chance. The ones who will become stars fans are the ones who were already integrated as Holofans before Kobo debuted.If you want your male oshi to get a serious funnel from Kobo, tell him to learn Indonesian and its culture. As long as he keeps talking in English all the funnels from Kobo will vanish within a month.
>ID and EN has 1 homobeggar in every genRemember this when EN3 come, so we can speculate which one is it
>>32352282Funnily enough thats not a 4chan rule but a general internet rule, there's always significantly more lurkers than active participants in any online community, so that equally applies to twitter and reddit as well
>>32351722>>32351769See ? He makes everyone seethe truly the most powerful man on vt Also im literally regis altare
>>32351775>>32352350Go back, homobeggar
>>32352312>discussBecause there's nothing to really discuss about vtubers outside of live commentating on the stream, drama, stupid bait discussions in the catalog, and numbers.Have you tried using reddit for any of these topics? It's awful. Try going on reddit and starting a discussion about which Hololive talent you wish you could've stopped from graduating or which ones you would Fuck, Marry, Kill.
>>32352362>Up votes don't count as activity because they just don't, alright?
>>32352401Stop streaming at 7am PST it's fucking up your average fucker.
>>32351604Hey we tend to do that only because there's no other EN streams when he's streaming.If there's something interesting going on in JP, we would talk about that instead.And Nowa liveposting has slowed down quite a bit in recent days.
>>32352390Holo Reddit has like 4-5k active members at any given time, while the lurkers would turn up the numbers to around 7-8k. That’s more than the total combined posters of the whole vt alone
Imagine if Ren was in Tempus. A homobegger and a unity beggar in the flesh
>>32352421NIjiseethe
>>32352431Reddit and twitter are terrible places for discussion. That's why imageboards and forums will never be removed completely
>>32352371If it's Rye (ahahahahah) then it could be she takes a similar approach to ID3 and Bae and state she's fine with male collabs from the start. She could also opt to not. Hell, even Gura before Gura has done collabs with dudes, but has completely shut down ANY outside collabs since she's joined Hololive. It's all about being upfront with your actions and setting the correct expections to match.
>>32351794because she's more entertaining
>>32352483Homo dilate
>>32352483>nijiseetheThis is the standard homofag response.
>>32352334Honestly as someone who has p4 as one of my favorite games, i get it. Her reactions are just super enjoyableAlso she's doing some of the really big group events today which have a lot of the games funniest moments>Will P5 give her 40k average numbers on her weekend jrpgs?This I have no clue because I don't know how the perception between p4 and p5 compares in japan. One thing that's important is p4 was way more shilled after its release and had a lot better legs in japan than p5 did. A big part of that is that the p4 anime was pretty successful but the p5 anime completely flopped. I have no idea which one would do better because of those factors
>>32352479Yes, don't you stars sisters want a musician for StarsEN2?
>>32352085No, she's more like ID Kuzuha. When she only plays 1 game most of the time (Valorant) and she is a ccv black hole when collab
>>32352390lurkers will not be exposed by upvoting, hence the lurking share of the population would be reflected in the number of upboats.
>>32352529Imagine the Mori and Ren song collab
>>32351794Unless Flare and Lamy gets pekora numbers too your argument holds no water
>>32352401just spam collabs with Kobo and you'll get to 200k subs in no time!can't guarantee that you'll stop being a 2k ccv shitter though
>>32352364>I don't think homo collabs really hurt the girls that bad and they're getting pretty good numbers>I don't mind them as long as they're not the main content of the girl's channel>What's with the sudden collab beggar posting?This is what you guys sound like right now. People talking about homo numbers doesn't mean their homobeggars either.
>>32352421> calling JP watchers homobeggarsnijiseethe indeed
>>32352527They want to turn Hololive into Nijizhanji and still call us Nijiniggers. Homobeggars are a plague
>>32352527>using pekora to defend nijiniggersHow cute
>>32352479> imagine
>>32352530The story of p5 is shit compared to p4 and the waifus get downgraded. I bet she would get less viewers
>>32352604>>32352608Duality of /#/
>>32352608>>32352627
>>32352562Lamy is the queen of aka supas. My point is valid
>>32352530That's interesting af. So anime is a big factor to it's success? How does P3 fare then since it has its movies, plus it has genwunner fan effect
>>32352479>Imagine>THE ULTIMATE MEGA FINAL NIJICOPE
>>32352608>using pekora to defend HomoStars How cute
>>32352687
>>32352608>>32352627>>32352657>>32352687>>32352723
>>32352603Then stop defending Homos
>>32352748Welcome to sea hours bro
>>32352530P5 as a game is better than p4, but as a VIEWING EXPERIENCE, p4g is better than p5 royal. Like I can cleanly recall most of p4's plot, but p5 just melts into 'SOCIETY' in my head, though I do remember enjoying the smoothness of p5r's combat over p4g.
funny thread?
>>32352770Not your hive mind, seethe about it
Ah... Sea hrs at last. It was a fun and heated discussion
>>32352807Not so funny.Am looking forward to see which 8 gals Gura managed to wrangle into her stream though.
>>32347511The males are the actual seiso idols. They are keeping Yagoo's dreams alive.
>>32352770NIjiseethe
>>32352807been a while funny poster.
>>32352830Not your discord, dilate about it
>>32352861>Yagoo's dreamsNice meme fellow redditor
>>32352739>>32352608>>32352627>>32352657>>32352687>>32352723
>>32352644>p4>good storyRORU, RUMAO even
>>32352866Homodilate
Posting Suisex as an offering to the numbergods for good numbers later
>>32352899Still has a better story than persona 5
>>32352861Does YAGOO dream of transforming Hololive into Nijizhanji?
>>32352940
>>32352959He loves them so no
Is it just me or do the NijiEN girls seem to have more and better quality doujins than the Holo's
So which will get the gold today? Off collab, 3D live or Botan's outfit?
>>32352988
>>32352991>NijiEN girls>Doujins
>>32353005Ayame
>>32353005Ojou 100%
>>32353029
>>32353005no one
Cope more, can't wait for the males to surpass the girls. Reminder that males are always superior and girls should always stay in the kitchen.
https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1565883088902963201Yagoo is a fashion model again
>>32353071You can wait forever anon, no one is stopping you
>>32352991>nijiEN can't even get good quality models for koikatsu rumao
>>32353071You didn't need to tell us that you were gay.
>>32352677P3's movies were received well, unlike p5's anime, but it was still released as a series of multiple movies released over years. It inherently filtered people with its distribution alone. P4 on the other released as a normal anime during a typical season. You could reasonably know nothing about persona but still watch it as a secondary because you watch seasonals.Old fags of course exist in JP too but there's a lot less of them because japan doesn't really do emulation. Also while the p3 girls are still pretty good p4 really refined the harem side of the game and its girls are all much more popular
noels original is uhhh. oof
I just realized something- NijiEN might have been actually created for Niji to have a 'CN' that they can control, since Virtuareal was taken over by Bilibili itself. Legally the chinks own 50% of every non-Chinese thing operating in China but by having a technically 'american' branch which just happens to make chinese chicks wet their panties, Niji can capitalize on the Chinese market without having to share it with the Chinese government.
>>32353210Slowchama
>>32353210We've agreed to not talk about it
I'm getting confused right now. Isn't holofags the one who are against males collab? I thought nijinigger joined force with homobeggar supporting nijification of hololive but i see people who are against males collab get called nijinigger
>>32352443>>32352589Good idea! i appreciate your feedbacks anon *plays kazoo*
>>32352899Anon, p5 story is stupid as shit. Stealing hearts to make adults confess their crime is dumb and the pancakes plot twist is stupid.
>>32353237>I thought nijinigger joined force with homobeggar supporting nijification of hololiveJesse what are you talking about?
>>32353201What went wrong with the p5 anime?
>>32353071Not even all your Homos together can compete with Gura
>>32353237It's a single schizo who thinks insulting anything holopro = nijifagYes it's annoying as fuck
>>32353237Nijiniggers use begging for male collabs as an excuse to shit on male discussion because they hate getting reminder that they are mogging their entire branch
>>32353237>What is falseflagging or shitposting?
>>32353237Discord tourists want to manipulate us into supporting HomoStars
>>32353237Tempusfags are a branch of HoloENfags.It's cut from the same cloth, hence why there's a bit of funnel between them.Not every holofag is against homo collabs.
>>32352991>NijiEN doujins>pluralwhat the fuck are you talking about?
>>32353290shit adaptation and shit animationjust play the game at that pointbut the valentine's day OVA is passable and sex
>>32353237Why would nijinigger defend stars unironically when en stars keep mogging their latest branch
>>32353361>everyone who doesn't agree with me is a discord touristYou should join forces with the seething 2view, he also thinks everyone who supports hololive is a paid shill
>>32352991I know this is bait, but I was curious and decided to check...and well... it's kinda grim...
>>32353389>Not every holofag is against homo collabsNo holofag wants collabs with males, only Discord normies and Vshojofags
>>32353436HomoStars are not Hololive
>>32352949>>32353262ah yeah, this is the same exact thing happen with p3/p4 before p5 release. p3 is the GOAT while p4 story is shit. now that p5 is the "normies game" everyones suddenly starts praising p4. i bet my balls when p6 release and becomes the biggest persona game ever you guys would praise p5 to the moon too. rinse and repeat, typical hipster.
>>32353453Wow even moona have a doujin there
>>32353071>can't wait
>>32353456Keep living in your bubble, retard. Maybe read some comments on holo streams for a change.
>>32353453>Nina kosakaLOL LMAO
>>32353290It's a complete waste of time that adds nothing to the experience of playing the game, which already had a weak story, and it also has terrible animationthis clip making fun of the animation did numbers while it was airing, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CUEXayVjo4 but you can find a shit ton of anime youtubers riffing on it if you lookP4's plot in general just works way better as anime. It's much more character focused and has a ton of slice of life friendship simulator moments which the anime elevated
>>32353456>everyone who doesn't agree with me are discord normies and vshojofagsI think this guy really buys into the idea that /vt/ is his personal hive mind.
>>32353237>Isn't holofags the one who are against males collab?maybe lurk more before you start throwing bait.
>>32350638Unicucks are seething, huh? And Nijilarpers are joining in.Why are you mad if Vesper invited Bae? The stream idea is actually GREAT, and the stream actually delivered. And we know HomoEN actually have brains not to collab with HoloEN if not invited first.>Muh Vesper solo contentIdiots. Total idiots you are. Vesper clearly implies that having solo content develops a fanbase, which is what he is constantly doing. And this collab is obviously not designed to develop a fanbade but to provide variety.
>>32353290You could probably mesh the cinematics from the game alone and get a better result than that anime.
>>32353389Go away tempusniggers. You're not exactly helping win the fight against nijiniggers and we can mock iLuna whether or not you fags exist. You have no purpose in the grand number war other than to be midgets.
>>32353501Almost no one says p4 has a better story than p3 anon. Most people agree it still is the goat persona in terms of storyPersona 5 just has a shittier story with retarded moments which makes p4's story look better by comparison
>>32353500reading comprehension is tough when you gotta translate isn't it?
>>32350852>and shitting on "the other company's male"I wonder who that is kek
>32353578not gonna start holo v holo for you, try another bait
>>32353651Maybe because every Homo anti I've seen on a Holo stream is some saliva-drooling retard that puts "HOLOSTARS ARE LEECHES" in their names and "I HATE HOLOSTARS" in their profiles, I just picture all these anons the same way.
>>32353518Yeah, the homobeggars are very vocal in the comments section. That's one of the reasons they are hated
>>32353453Even after millie and enna(?)'s bait for fanarts with their lesbian kissing twitter banner and finana's gfe asmr is not enough. Kek what are they doing wrong?
>>32353507Moona has as many doujins (3) as the first 4 waves of NijiEN put together (3).> but NijiEN have 3 Pomu + 2 Finana, and Moona only has 4Moona has -1 because one of hers is a reupload.Pomu and Finana share one doujin since it features both of them (-1).Another -1 for Finana because her only solo doujin was also translated into Chinese.
>>32353730Your homos aren't holos. This isn't holo vs holo. You gotta understand you "holopro" fags are a minority.
>>32353632P5's message is also significantly more muddled because it deals with real world issues like societal injustice and power abuse and tries to sell it like making connections and friends is how you overcome that, but what actually happens is that it relies on you having magic mind changing powers to solve those issues, so it just ends up being a naked power fantasy where the only thing standing between you and solving all the world's problems is you not having magic mind control powers
>>32353557>seething
>>32352501>even Gura before Gura has done collabs with dudesi might get called homobeggar for this but Gura seems doesnt mind with interacting/collabing with males, it just she's afraid of chumbuds. Gura has mentioned or acknowledged starsJP before. chumbuds may think she's perfect idol/GFE or blablabla, but i think Gura simply want to protect herself and the boys (from being dogpiled). also avoiding drama, she's aware what she did might have affect & she treaded carefully.
>>32353820not cute girl = no doujin
>>32353855>i might get called homobeggar for thisYou are completely right, and the fact you went ahead and posted this knowing fully well how it comes across is pathetic.
>>32353825You keep saying that but the entire thread was fine discussing homos until you two woke up and started raging that the numbers thread dares to discuss males favourably. Stop pretending you're the majority here, you're just loud and autistic
>>32353552Since the day of Kronii's collab discordfags invades every discussion about Hololive to talk about Homos. So in my point of view every homobeggar is a discordfag
>>32353820>bait for fanarts/u/ isnt the strongest fanart bait.
>>32353855And she would be correct in thinking so, she already has an example of what would happen too, Kronii, just much worse which is why i hate collabegars with a passion, they clearly can't read the atmosphere.
>>32353855Oh eat a bag of dicks, you don't watch Gura.And I don't understand this retarded "well the roommate talked to males before". Yeah bitch, the roommates do that daily, males are half of the population. The point most people want is:1)no male content creator collabs2)no boyfriendsYour strawman unicorn waifu that has never spoken to a man ever is something even a minority of unicorns (which are huge schizos) are schizo enough to expect.
>>32353921catalogue tourist go away - now I definitely know you haven't been here a month
>>32353740If HomoStars didn't need to parasitize HoloEN to grow nobody would call them leechs
>>32353916>w-we run this cityPathetic, homofag. Especially since you insist I'm in the only one doing it, but keep feeding your delusions.
>>32353855The only time she's "mentioned" starsJP is repeating the cafeteria meme.The only time she's "acknowledged" them is when Cover literally forced them on the screen at a con, literally management mandated. This isn't some woman that randomly brought up homos or talked about them, and she does that A LOT to pretty much all the JP holos.
>>32353982Homoseethe
>>32353993If you honestly believe it isn't obvious it's just the two of you posting on cool down you might want to get a doctor to look at your brain.
Is Live a Live the biggest debuff that ever hit HoloEN? Why the fuck does Mori not have at least a 3k core?
>>32354099Isn't it midnight in PST?
>>32353538>smash’s animation is actually better than the anime’sWhat fucking low budget studio did atlus pay to animate their anime , jesus fucking christ
>>32354066Oh now its two of us. Nice. And how many do you think there are of you? This thread is dead, and it seems to me you're the only homofag still ticking.
>>32354099Because she keeps jumping her timezone all over the place so she has a core audience of fuck all.
>>32354130If you read my original post I've always said it was two of you, and considering the thread discussed vespers two streams perfectly fine I'd say there's alot more tha two of you
Lamy is graduating...
>>32354130Homofags want to be treated equally, but act like Twitter troons
>>32354229/#/s is graduating too...
>>32354241https://twitter.com/yukihanalamy/status/1565963478229458944Not like this...
>>32354099People would legit rather watch her read SCs than play this game
damn vox numberroted brain really take a toll on him huh. i hope he didnt kill himself if in future there's male chuuba who spam runescape getting 10x times better number than him.
Just finished watching the project zomboid collab. Are the unicorns still seething?
>>32354216It is natural that you have many homobeggars /here/. This place has been raided for weeks to protect Kronii's honor
>>32354231It's funny to watch you homoantis seethe over fucking nothing
>>32354320Finished dilating?
>>32354320yep, on cooldown
>>32354305Honestly it's weird how he cares about other numbers in the first place when he got a lot of sc in anything he does anyways. Is it ego?