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* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *>42,357: Pekora (Hololive)>41,222: Miko (Hololive)>32,197: Hololive (Hololive)>31,803: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>28,942: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>24,895: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>24,778: Subaru (Hololive)>20,412: Miko (Hololive)>19,395: Noel (Hololive)>17,555: Fubuki (Hololive)>15,237: Met (774 Inc.)>13,957: Flare (Hololive)>13,626: Mysta (Nijisanji)>13,468: Shu (Nijisanji)>12,529: Hal (Neo Porte)>12,460: Mumei (Hololive)>11,509: Luca (Nijisanji)>10,064: Vox (Nijisanji)
>>31178259/news/ roundup for 18-08-2022>>31122908Recent clip numbers>>31108229>>31108271>>31108468>>31108519
Number bros, what kind of number do you think PekoGura arc will do?
*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*>13,686: Mysta (Nochairsanji)>11,550: Mumei (Hololive)>11,165: Shu (Nochairsanji)>10,556: Luca (Nochairsanji)>10,064: Vox (Nochairsanji)>9,541: Kyo (Nochairsanji)>7,034: Noir (Hololive)>6,561: Petra (Nochairsanji)>6,491: Axel (Hololive)>6,432: Mori (Hololive)>5,297: Mysta (Nochairsanji)>5,174: Noir (Hololive)>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)3. Mysta (Nochairsanji) - 16,007 (Genshin Impact)4. Mumei (Hololive) - 21,228 (Unarchived Karaoke)5. Mumei (Hololive) - 28,009 (Birthday Celebration and Call-ins)6. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,588 (Unarchived Karaoke)7. Ike (Nochairsanji) - 58,292 (700k subscribers karaoke celebration)8. Gura (Hololive) - 16,812 (Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)9. Vox (Nochairsanji) - 27,034 (NijiEN tier list w/Ren)10. Kronii (Hololive) - 14,179 (Minecraft)11. Gura (Hololive) - 22,754 (The Mortuary Assistant)12. Gura (Hololive) - 23,030 (Rust)13. Luca (Nochairsanji) - 25,830 (Koshien group B watch along)14. Elira (Nochairsanji) - 36,752 (Koshien finals watch along)15. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,717 (Minecraft)16. Fauna (Hololive) - 14,780 (Minecraft)17. Gura (Hololive) - 21,105 (Rust)18. Mysta (Nochairsanji) - 13,686 (Genchink Zhangpact)>GOLD PER COMPANYHololive - 12Nochairsanji - 6Others - 0>GOLD PER STREAMER4x: Mumei, Gura2x: Fauna, Mysta1x: Ike, Vox, Kronii, Luca, Elira, Baelz>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)Mumei: 27Gura: 20Fauna: 16Mysta: 14Luca: 10Shu: 10Ike: 8Elira: 8Vox: 8Kronii: 7Baelz: 7Alban: 4Noir: 3Rosemi: 3Selen: 3Mori: 3Ren: 3Amelia: 2Axel: 1Ina: 1Kiara: 1Magni: 1IRyS: 1
>>31178437Same amount 40kish unless War breaks out and Gura uses VC.
Matuli seems like she's getting better with her streaming content lately>More buff games (Holocure, MC and RUST)>Jump in the middle of kino arcs instead of 3 weeks after>Scale back her 2view/APEX content (Well, she still do it, but at least not that much)>Doesn't spreeg out as much when "Yab" happen (The RUST one pretty much become nothing)
*YESTERDAY’S FINAL GAIJIN TALLY *>13,686: Mysta (Nijisanji)>11,550: Mumei (Hololive) *Z: 12,460*>11,165: Shu (Nijisanji) *Z: 13,468*>10,556: Luca (Nijisanji) *Z: 11,509*>10,064: Vox (Nijisanji)>9,541: Kyo (Nijisanji)>7,034: Noir (Holostars)>6,561: Petra (Nijisanji)>6,506: Kaela (Hololive)>6,491: Axel (Holostars)>6,251: Kaela (Hololive)>5,760: Mori (Hololive) *Z: 6,432*>5,297: Mysta (Nijisanji)>5,174: Noir (Holostars)>5,156: Zeta (Hololive)>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)3. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 16,007 (Genshin Impact)4. Mumei (Hololive) - 19,294 (Unarchived karaoke)5. Mumei (Hololive) - 28,009 (Birthday celebration)6. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,736 (600k Unarchived karaoke)7. Ike (Nijisanji) - 58,292 (700k karaoke)8. Gura (Hololive) - 16,812 (Mario Kart 8DX)9. Ollie (Hololive) - 29,879 (New costume)10. Kronii (Hololive) - 14,179 (Minecraft)11. Gura (Hololive) - 22,754 (The Mortuary Assistant)12. Gura (Hololive) - 23,030 (Rust)13. Luca (Nijisanji) – 25,830 (Nijisanji Koshien B League Watchalong)14. Elira (Nijisanji) - 36,531 (Nijisanji Koshien Finals Watchalong)15. Moona (Hololive) - 16,769 (Minecraft HoloID CUP Rules)16. Moona (Hololive) – 19,113 (Minecraft HoloID CUP)17. Gura (Hololive) - 21,105 (Rust)18. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 13,686 (Genshin Impact)>GOLD PER COMPANYHolopro - 13Nijisanji – 5>GOLD PER STREAMER4x: Mumei, Gura2x: Moona, Mysta1x: Fauna, Ike, Ollie, Kronii, Luca, Elira>SILVER PER COMPANYHolopro - 10Nijsanji - 8>SILVER PER STREAMER3x: Shu2x: Reine1x: Mysta, Kaela, Moona, Noir, Ike, Vox, Rosemi, Elira, Anya, Mori, Baelz, Fauna, Mumei>BRONZE PER COMPANYHolopro - 11Nijsanji - 7>BRONZE PER STREAMER3x: Kobo1x: Axel, Ina, Alban, Mysta, Luca, Magni, Baelz, Fauna, Selen, Mumei, Reine, Ren, Anya, Ike, Shu
Jesus, I saw Pekora is recruiting both Gura and Suisei in Rust. That number bunny knows her stuff.
Oh mumei playing rust, 7.5 k 19 mins in. Maybe she shoots some more indos
>>31178147The word "daisenpai" can be translated as "great/big senior", which is effectively is a degree of magnitude greater than just a "senpai" (senior).>>31178437Not much more than any other major JP collab, because all the people that would watch Gura wouldn't be awake when she'd be more likely to stream with Pekora.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOomRxacoQ0Haachama coming back to her origins... Her last videos are doing pretty well and I think it suits her style better than streaming
>>31178437Nothing for Pekora and Gura since she doesnt stream enough to be able to make anything out of it
>>31178496I'm just hoping this isn't another cycle and she keeps this up.
>>31178563I don’t trust Suichan. She probably just wants to tease Miko and will flip sides at the end. That sounds like good numbers now that I think about it …
>>31178496What make her pro Hololove all of sudden. I believed she was known for doing her own thing?
>>31178496has she posted any menhera shit recently or does her mental seem better?
>>31178437Need more than random, unannounced Rust cameos for actual numbers
>>31178652Anon she had a Live called restart where she turned in Kizuna AI while singing Fansa and then sang a song admitting to being hard to deal with and tanked her fanbase for still supporting her while crying. Idk what brought it but she is trying to do better
>>31178589Yeah, but for some reason people in the industry and fans silently agreed that she earned that title despite her impact was only within Hololive. Mind you, without her Hololive would be where it is today.
So, 3rd StarsEN+ HoloEN/ID collab down. Results:Vesper + Mori (single pov) = 16,000Vesper/Magni + Ollie (split pov) = 7,034 + 3,821 = 10,855Magni + Mori (split pov) = 9277 + 10320 = 19,597 What do you guys think?
>>31178877>Counting highest peaks for multi pov collabslol
>>31178589Then Elira is clearly as much of a daisenpai to NijiEN as Mito to NijiJP. Without her connection, the foundation of NijiEN would never have been formed
>>31178652>unmedicated take incomingRushia and taxes
>>31178942We don't call Mel as dai-senpai despite her Nepo hires were on point most of the time. Calli Elira dai-senpai is plan retarded.
>>31178984Fair enough
>>31178647I think Suisei will stick with it and just keep bullying Miko on Rust and keep being sweet with her on Minecraft and off stream. It'll keep their sex life interesting.
>>31176633>How hard is it to find another Gura? Ehemm... This is the next Gura for EN 3. Believe it or not.
>>31178496>>31178636>>31178652>>31178684Matsuri changed after adopting a cat (same breed as Taiga) and taking care of him, it's like she becomes a mom and cured her
>>31178647She didn't betray peko in season 1 but it's also not impossible for her to target both pekora and miko
>>31179061Alright fine, recomment one of her clip to convince me that she is next Gura
First Bae mogged Luxiem, and now Magni is mogging Luxiem as well....Jesus, this is what accelerating means?
>>31178259HOLO EVENTS:August 19 Shirogane Noel New OutfitAugust 20 Ookami MioAugust 23 Hololive English -Council-August 25 Holo Summer liveAugust 26 Holo Summer liveAugust 27 Holo Summer liveAugust 28 Holo Summer liveAugust 30 Kaela Kovalskia, Holo Summer liveAugust 31 Holo Summer live Other 20-21 - another gen 3 collab (noel or pekora ch)27-28 - another gen 3 collab (noel or pekora ch)
>>31179061>Nyanners and Ame stickerIt’s over before it even began….
>>31179061If Cover finds a competent and consistent FPS player ala Botan in EN 3, she might destroy all the other FPS players in NijiEN just because there isn't one in HoloEN at the moment. That's the problem since 2 years ago. Ame is plain retarded to trust her.
>>31179061I know...Our NaziLoliChubba it is!
>>3117921019) holo gold (Noel costume)20) holo gold (Mio birthday/gen 3 collab noel)21) ??22) niji gold (Toya birthday)23) ??24) ??25) holo gold (Holo summer live)26) niji gold (Koshien 2022 exhibition match)27) holo gold (gen 3 collab pekora)28) holo gold (Holo summer live)29) ??30) holo gold (Holo summer live)31) holo/niji gold (Fuwa last morning radio/Holo summer live)holo summer (stream or premiere)18 stream, 25 stream, 28 stream, 30 stream, 31 streamniji noon (guests/performers dependant)15 - 19, 22 - 26niji 24 hrs karaoke relay27 - 28
>>31179271last year>AUGUST1) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 85,309 - AR live2) Pekora (Hololive) - 31,008 - Payday 2 collab3) Miko (Hololive) - 36,181 - GTAV4) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 51,821 - Winning Eleven collab5) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 52,844 - Eden-gumi profiles6) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 156,062 - Celebrity APEX7) Flare (Hololive) - 60,571 - 2nd anniversary 3D live8) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,127 - Niji Koshien practice9) Aqua (Hololive) - 84,057 - 3rd anniversary 3D live10) Hal (Indie) - 72,466 - VSaikyo S3 landmark lottery11) Marine (Hololive) - 94,400 - 2nd anniversary 3D12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 65,011 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 147,639 - Niji Koshien 2021 A-league14) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 170,896 - Niji Koshien 2021 B-league15) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 205,448 - Niji Koshien 2021 finals16) Ollie (Hololive) - 52,687 - Costume reveal17) Shion (Hololive) - 55,615 - 3D birthday18) Gura (Hololive) - 42,455 - Unarchived karaoke19) Watame (Hololive) - 42,288 - 3D announcement20) Mio (Hololive) - 58,031 - 3D birthday live21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 48,128 - APEX custom22) Hal (Indie) - 132,049 - VSaikyo S3 tournament23) Kronii (Hololive) - 94,966 - HoloEN debut24) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 51,404 - Poker Chase collab25) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 108,077 - Niji Koshien exhibition match26) Marine (Hololive) - 32,311 - Mario Kart27) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 30,318 - Nijinoon28) Furen (Nijisanji) - 98,761 - 3D debut29) Kronii (Hololive) - 43,355 - Council meeting30) Miko (Hololive) - 32,917 - Mario Party Superstars31) Pekora (Hololive) - 59,204 - Clubhouse 51 totsumachiAugust 1 - 15>holo 5>niji 9August 16 - 31>holo 10>niji 5total>Holo: 15>Nijisanji: 14>Indie: 2
>>31179234Is she even good at fps? No arma doesn’t count that too slow, I say this as a arma player myself
>>31179061Ryenigger how assblasted are you gonna be if Rye is in Wave 7?
I'm going to be absolutely fascinated to see the VOD view trends for the Magni/Mori drawing collab given the near-identical CCVs. It'll be an interesting case study of sorts.
>>31179068Now there's two fat fuck cats receiving love and attention from holo girls?
>>31179391As long as he doesn't do what the deranged Petra->Mumei schizos did....
>>31179449Can't believe Mumei was a top free agent in the 2021 vtuber season. She's such a boring bitch.
>>31179391Oh please, Nijisanji doesn't even look at people who don't have 100k followers/subs/whatever
>>31179068>Missed the chance to give matsuri a kid and now a cat blocks all chancesOn one hand, darnOn the other hand, that's a bullet dodged for some bloke who would've been stuck with the menhera.
>>31179391This again? Remember how you thought Vesper's PL's was gonna be in wave 6?
>>31179361She plays all sorts of FPS games and doesn't limit herself to only 1 like Botan. Tarkov, rust, arma, cod, PUBG etc. There's also some other FPS games I don't recognize. She usually plays it with her sister.
>>31178855I guess Sora and Mito earned the title of daisenpai due to their longevity and revered in the industry. Fubuki is definitely one of the main pillars of Hololive but it just feels weird to call her a daisenpai, unlike Sora(at least for me).
>>31178331SILVER>1) 71,833: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien>2) 59,997: Maimoto (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien>3) 45,884: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic>4) 42,896: Pekora (Hololive) RUST*>5) 61,209: Pekora (Hololive) 2 Million subscribers>6) 46,426: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden>7) 90,537: Flare (Hololive) 3D Anniversary LIVE>8) 57,151: Lui (Hololive) English telephone game>9) 50,718: Hololive (Hololive) Hololive Summer 2022 #2>10) 42,087: Kanata (Hololive) Swimsuit Reveal>11) 92,357: Aqua (Hololive) 4 year anniversary 3D LIVE>12) 73,157: Lamy (Hololive) 2nd Anniversary Live>13) 75,845: Marine (Hololive) Gen3 Quiz>14) 81,664: Botan (Hololive) 2nd Anniversary Live>15) 35,336: Noel (Hololive) RUST>16) 33,850: Pekora (Hololive) Cult of the Lamb>17) 39,079: Salome (Nijisanji) Biohazard 8>18) 41,222: Miko (Hololive) RUST> PER COMPANY4x: Nijisanji14x: Hololive> PER STREAMER3x: Pekora2x: Hololive1x: Kuzuha, Maimoto, Fuwa, Subaru, Flare, Lui, Kanata, Aqua, Lamy, Botan, Noel, Miko, Salome BRONZE>1) 41,478: Marine (Hololive) 2M celebration>2) 35,749: Leos (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien>3) 45,004: Lize (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien>4) 42,706: Shiina (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien*>5) 51,947: Tsukasa (Indie) Niji Koshien>6) 46,096: Hayato (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien>7) 58,272: Ike (Nijisanji) SINGING 700k>8) 56,144: Shiina (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien>9) 46,337: Pekora (Hololive) Marika 8DX w/ swimsuit>10) 30,367: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic>11) 43,626: Marine (Hololive) [some game she made in highschool]>12) 57,105: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien>13) 66,686: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien>14) 44,047: Pekora (Hololive) RUST>15) 29,882: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft>16) 33,264: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) NijiNoon>17) 33,446: Suisei (Hololive) RUST>18) 32,197: Hololive (Hololive) Holo Summer #4> PER COMPANY7x: Hololive10x: Nijisanji1x: Indie> PER STREAMER3x: Nijisanji2x: Shiina, Marine, Pekora1x: Leos, Lize, Tsukasa, Hayato, Ike, Fuwa, Miko, Suisei, Hololive
>>31178593holy shit, it actually looks edible
>>31179187https://clips.twitch.tv/DreamyKitschyWhaleOpieOP-i9XdLXYA7F63NpHIHer highest viewed twitch clip
>>31179525You didn't answer my question retardbro
so... niji gold?
>>31179502Part of me wonders what sports-like free agency in the vtuber world would look like. Pekora signs onto a multi-year deal with Nijisanji worth $50mil two hours before the free agency deadline sparking an offseason of extreme PekoMiko fan salt and some guy uploading a video on Twitter of him burning his Pekora merch in a trash can fire.
>>31179427Spoiler: the channel with the higher subs will have better vod performance
>>31179662Get ready for Danchou's big fucking titties
>>31179687Well duh, but the exact degree of difference is what I'm interested in here, both immediately after the stream and in the 24 hours and days after.
>>31179692I fucking hate the nigger elf for being to suck on them
>>31179620>Is she goodThat's subjective, people could be ranked master in Apex and would still be shit in other games but her playing all those games and likes it implies she is at least competent, dumbass.
>>31179525Yeah you didn’t answer the simple question. She has clips of her playing but none of them actually show if she is good
>>31179525>doesn't limit herself to only 1 like Botanbad example. Botan doesn't play FPS as much as you think. I'm pretty sure Roboco or Matsuri play more than her
>>31179687Pretty sure some posters here are still pretending that (active) sub count had little to no effect in the vod views/ccv disparity anon.
>>31179732I dunno man. I play all of those games and I'm still shit. Give us some clips of timestamp or whatever showcasing her so called proficiency, at least.
>>31179727Finally someone has an actually good reason to seethe about Furea.
>>31179732Lmao, so no she won’t be the Botan of En. We aren’t asking for average fps player anon
>>31179727
Is rust actually fun or are they just exploiting it for numbers (what about it is so fascinating that fucking matsuri can get 15k CCV with it)
Axel won't pander to the fujo/yumejo if he does member ASMRs because he hates listening and doing and I quote "sussy things"
>>31179727Dwarf kun Noel’s tits are probably as big as you
>>31179851It's the same appeal as minecraft which is the interaction of holos.
>>31179851I don't enjoy watching it very much but it has the same appeal that Minecraft streams have but with a bit of added novelty plus additional risk/hostilities.
>>31179851Maybe it's like a game of thrones thing? Because the server resets on Thursday they're all building up to a megawar and we're seeing them stockpile resources for it.
>another fucking handcam stream
>>31178437They need more interactions and see if their chemistry actually works.
>>31179851Holomem interactions without having to set up shitty collabs. It’s worth for me, I enjoy more than just one person in Hololive
its over nijibros...
>>31179971Well that was part of her PL's content; It's either this or mobile otome game playthroughs
>>31179992>7m subs combined>only 200kuhh
>>31179851Japs love gacha. Rust is basically collab gacha. Therefore, numbers.
>>31179851It's a new game for them that's on similar vein to Minecraft, so for now it's fun for interactions between them just like ARK. It probably won't last long though.
>>31179851Members that play offstream probably enjoy the game.
>>31180026Really hope NijiEN learned their lesson from this debacle.
>>31179992Why do you Indogs like attacking Niji so much? I mean I'd understand if it was a retaliation but this time you just did it unprovoked.
>>31179971I see what you did
>>31179803>>31179832Honestly, not sure how to break it to you Anons when I've already said that the question is subjective. In my eyes, she's good and competent maybe below Towa's level but her game choices aren't centered around one FPS game all the time. Her skill transfers into other games. You could check her yourself, and she'd be shit or average to you but for me, she'd fit right in as an FPS Holomember and would be entertaining all the same.
>>31179992Indobro wtf it’s actually good, happy for you guys. The chat was marking out when Kaela was singing lmao
>>31179534The daisenpai thing reminds me of Type-Moons heroic spirit lore (no one born after 1900 can ever reach the throne of heroes). No vtuber that didn't debut during the four kings era should ever be considered a daisenpai.
>>31180170>>>>>/warkop/
>>31180165They won't because they clearly don't want to put in the effort of reading 1view applications.
>>31180184The original isn't much better desu
>>31180197The talk was about En get a Botan lvl fps player anon. Her being Ollie does nothing to me
Kawaii announced their debuts will be at the end of this month and its 5 girls.current list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos>GezuGezu https://twitter.com/GezuDayo>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi>Mai Melody https://twitter.com/MaiMelodyCh>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano>Kirispica https://twitter.com/kirispicaa>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69>Koa Himari https://twitter.com/KoaHimari>Roza_Coatl https://twitter.com/Roza_Coatl>Viri Sylvaine https://twitter.com/virisylvaineOnly write off for being in Kawaii from this group is Fen Riru since her graduation/hiatus is after August 31st and the Kawaii debuts are August 27-28.Other locations to end up for these girls include>Tsunderia whos auditions ended around the same time as Kawaiis>NijisanjiEN wave 7 assuming theyre doing a dual wave like past waves minus Ethyria has gotten>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far>idol corp(?) had auds end at the end of July so likelihood for this one might be the least since timeframe is small
I want to ask honestly and not as some kind of bad faith question:What was it that NijiEN was attempting to accomplish with who they scouted and selected for Iluna? I'm not going to sit here and tell myself that it was solely "who has the biggest PL numbers" because I'm sure they had other applicants who would've likely been in similar ranges, so there had to be something specific they were attempting to accomplish or create with the group that they selected.
>>31180422"If they managed to get big numbers by themselves it's because they are good streamers/know the market, so they can do the same under our brand"Or something like that
>>31180170Inferiority complex. They need to bully someone smaller than them.
>>31180237yeah, it just feels wrong to call anyone else danisenpai even if they are vital to their respective company
Opinions on manjigumi?
>>31178647suisei is a wild card, she loves to tease and bully miko but she won't hesitate to betray peko too to keep things interesting
>>31180237It's more of a historical legacy rather than a numbers or influence at this point.
>>31180237Mito would be a weird mix then. She was the inflection point between an era and the other.
>>31180310The original talk had an if, "if Cover gets an FPS player ala Botan", it doesn't necessarily mean Rye, retardo.
>>31179205holoEN-ID, and Stars strong as fuck if they got serious
Moomer 10k get
>>31180630This is probably the best demarcation line on which vtubers are considered as the OG senpais.
>>31180709Guerrilla middle of the night Rust is strong
Oh hey, she got 10k. Finally I can sleep.
>>31179992>#8 on trendingindochads i kneel
>>31180717Which of the old other guards are still going strong to this day? Himehina, Peanuts, and Ponpoko?
https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1560514591683407872wait, what?
>>31180422I honesty think they thought they could convert normie flesh streamer/creator audiences to watch vtubers so they could have an uncontested audience seeing the people they picked. Which is absolutely fucking stupid considering this hobby.
>>31180808>indochads
VSPO has two talents at 10k+ at the same time, playing the same game, overlapping each other, at 3pm JST
>>31180811HimeHina probably are the strongest one remaining with Mito and Sora close second. The metrics of their music are pretty great.
>>31180422They want a Gura, but they can't find it. Cover is lucky to get Gura. Seeing how Gura's PL goes, it doesn't matter if she makes meme music or become a vocalist for a pornstar's music, all they need is numbers. But that's their mistake, Gura is naturally talented and charismatic outside of her online presence. Cover was able to see this through their scouting procedures except for Sana unfortunately. Meanwhile, Anycolor can't see this. As long as they have numbers, they're shortlisted and the best among them are picked. This is why Cover could naturally dodge the guy who uploaded their stars audition on YT.
>>31180838(me)Oh, that's what it is
>>31180838big investor
>>31180709Could be 12k if she starts an oil rig raid
>>31180811The ones you mentioned are probably the strongest. Siro and Aoi are still putting up respectable numbers too. Akari and Hinata have really declined though.
>>31180926And they said that Cover is in the redbaka...
Phony 20 milThink it'll slow down now?
>>31180926>>31180940I thought Cover was in the red and going bankrupt this year
>>31180838Soraposter did say their finance reports banks in for long term growth and sustainable ventures.
>>31180871Met isn't VSPO...
>>31180926Anykulor is innovative. They paid 4 billion in taxes alone from a 14 billion gross, isnt that amazing?
>>31180871you sure about that?
>>31180987The more popular a video is, the more it will be recommended by the algorithm.
>>31180989that's rrat from nijikek who didn't know how to do math, anon.
>>31180838>>31180926Anykara has won this award 3 times by the way
https://youtu.be/rDtfhETEq9MHow did this blow up so hard in just 3 days?
>>31181002Then Cover's investments in HoloEarth, Alt, and Error make sense since it allows them to venture into multiple avenues. Even if those projects fail, they can just reuse the assets in the girls/boys' 3D streams.
>>31181116proof this thread?
>>31180987I dunno anon, did you watch your weekly Gura Duolingo recommendation yet?
>>31180970What the hell even happened to Mirai Akari, anyway?
>>31178795The "restart" started beginning of this year and culminated in the live. I think she had some kind of epiphany around last christmas to do better and be better after her trainwreck that was almost all of 2021 and she's been grinding great, varied content and avoiding trouble ever since. Nobody just noticed that she's been doing a great job all year because she still avoided FOTM/buff games until Holocure and Rust>>31179068The cat definitely helped but again matuli's change for the better started early this year imo.
>>31180970>Siro and Aoi are still putting up respectable numbers too.Nah, Siro unirocally slacked off and gave up. Chieri is basically the Pekora of that dying corp now since she is the only that streams alot and maintains decent numbers. If only Chieri is saved by yagoo.
>>31181074The only paid 1.3B yen to taxes, equivalent to around $10M to the government lol
>>31181130The rat is cute
>>31181156still doing promos and what not. mainly working for v-clan events
>>31180237Imagine a Lostbelt where Rin didn't squander her PewDiePie buff or where the Christmas miracle never happened. Or one where UPd8 weren't a bunch of retards when it came to handling Ai and she remained at the top.
>>31181116>Mayu graduation>Axiya suspensionWhats the third?
>>31181074Riku is so charitable, paying back the government like that. Unlike that jew Yagoo
>>31181239I knew that part but I meant what caused her eventual decline over the past few years?
>>31178593She's doing too much, in the last 4 days along she gained close to a million views on her channel but she's uploading too many videos to the point where a lot of them aren't gaining the leg needed (like her last two) even though they started off pretty well (about 100k within the first 15~ish hours)
>>31181229>>31180970I'll also add that Siro only relies on collab shit and sponsored stuff for her contnet, but Chieri is the only one that actually bothers to fill in the empty days while everyone else streams like once per week.
>>31180058sign...every damn time, eh?
>>31181260didn't he become Fuma from Uproar or am I confusing him with someone else?
>>31181136Multiple avenues is better since the risk is diversified. Yeah, if one of them fails, they'll be used into other projects, and if all fails, they'll buy HoloCure and make a similar Arknights/Cygames tier of production into it. Cosmetics and monthly $5 pays the game by itself. I just hope Bandai doesn't get their IP to make their shitty ass games.
>>31181323same thing that happend to ai. too many sponsor events not enough solo streams/content. she wasn't a prolific streamer to begin with.
>>31181390...Anonchama?
>>31181116For which years? I mean, if you can provide proof (twitter links, screencaps etc) you'd certainly be a great deal more credible.
Do you think NijiEN should accelerate more?
>>31181482What happened to the Apex video?
>>31181482Wrong question.The question is: how much MORE are they going to accelerate?
>>31181142>>31181463I'm at home so I can't get to my computer and check and I hate to pull this card but>trust met. 3 year /vt/ resident
>>31181482I mean if a new chuuba adds 500 viewers why not. Look at nijijp, they've been winning the daily tally nonstop and they will win again today
>>31179992nice
>>31181482A 3view NijiEN? Holy shit
>>31181517See last thread, but it boils down to>Healslut term got used and be privated the video himselfSome of that toxic gamer bit of him leaking out.
>>31181517Probably bonked for the healslut comment, since I doubt the NTR segment was enough to get it taken down
Could HoloKR compete with Isegye?
>>31181130SMOL and FUNNY
>>31181482There is no brakes on this train
>>31181517Regis called Axel (or Nowa can't remember) his "healslut", that's the only reason I can remember, there wasn't any real yab
>>31181581I honestly wonder how bad it would feel to be the lowest performing chuuba with the most negative reception in a wave that's by and large been looked down upon by NijiEN fans at large, doubly so if you gave up your prior career to do so.
>>31181262Ex-Albino given up on Niji and encourage his colleagues to graduate
>>31181621yeah. most of isegye fans also watch holo since isegye keep mentioned them and copied a few content of holo
>>31181482These photos are taken so wildly out of context that I am convinced this is a shitpost
>>31181482Even if Nijisanji copies everything from Hololive, they can never surpass it cause their talents aren't up to par.
is Cover unironically a unicorn company now?
>>31181677funnily enough nijisis disappointed about them because they betrayed their expectation.so their haters is not only outside company alone but also nijifans
>>31179727Tally anon, you have to let it go ...
>>31181774Dunno, ask Axia
>>31181323She still unable to transition to live streaming
How does the runt of ID 3 manage to mog the shit out of NijiEns in watch time hours.
How come NijiEN fanbase exhibits so many qualities of NijiJP fanbase without them interacting much?
>>31181895Isn't Zeta officially the runt now that Kaela has seen her renaissance?
>>31181544Sorry buddy but I can't seem to find their name (Ichikara/いちから/Anycolor/エニーカラー) in these pile of pdfs.Mind telling which year did they get it?https://www.mizuhobank.co.jp/corporate/b_support/ms_salon/special/event_news/index.html
>>31181902Being the number two in the Vtuber industry and the culture of bullying and mainstream content end up cultivating retarded fans
>>31180717>>31180811Ah, I just watched this the other day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfxqI9DWJ9I
>>31181929Her debuted and start was so bad that she is still 100k subs behind Zeta
>Axia suspended>Honma revealed a fuck buddy of Axia>silvergay anti holo interviewThread still boring... Thank goodness my autistic owl girlfriend is streaming
>>31181963>click on the link>first thing I see is acceleration collegeyou can't make this shit up KEK
>>31181902Culture assimilation through Chinese fans.
>>31181774If you're referring to the Mizuho award, then the answer is maybe. It all hinges on AnyColor's market cap not imploding before the end of the year.
>>31182065>SilvergayDid 5ch hear about this drama?
>>31181902Company culture reflects their streamersStreamer reflects their fanbase
>>31181702>most of isegye fans also watch holoThat's an understatement. Why do you think we called them Korean Hololive Litehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU8picIMbSk
>>31182128Wait, what is the story on this Silvervale thing?
>>31182157hololive badidol culture badrestrictions badCREATIVE FREDOOM
>>31182137These chuubas would be great in Hololive
>>31182157>silver vshojo lass went on an interview>actually namedropped Hololive>tldr "we're not hololive, we don't do that shit we can go on relationships on stream if we want, we have creative freedom">shit ensues
>>31182157The retard decided it would be a good idea to go “we’re better than hololive because we give our talents freedom” in a published interview that anyone can access
>Kiara and Kronii want to play RUSTAren't they a bit late on the uptake?
>>31182157ignore the sub 80 iq threadreaderspeople are upset because she implied that hololive is so restricted that its basically scripted by management and holos cant even say simple things about their lives or their families
Both Met and Nose over 10k in their collab.Weirdly, not Reid though.
>>31181002PicrelBless Soraposter
>>31182258Man, why do Vshojo members like to talk shit about Hololive anyway? Doesn't she know that her company has two ex-Holo members?
>>31182137This was cute as fuck
>>31182370Image...
>>31182210>>31182258Reminded me of a certain company's hubris
>>31178563I mean they just naturally attracted to each other. Even Suisei for some reason build her base on Pekora side
>>31182128maybe?
>>31182276Approved by GunRun, and Brand manager which is also a half flip. The hypocrisy of those retards trying to be friendly
>>31182402What is more baffling is that i can distinctly remember Silver commenting in a Kiara member stream, so obviously she paid to access more of her content
>>31182374fanbase reflects their oshi
>>31182467kek
>>31181963inb4 anon got them confused with anymind group kekhttps://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000064.000018392.html
>>31182296Kiara been busy with, ironically, vacation
>>31181774No, they're still allow male interaction between branches
>>31182374thank god he specified when things were REALLY REALLY FUCKING SUPER GOOD otherwise I would've been confused
>>31182374YAGOO my wife! I kneel....
>>31181774Nah. But any girl who pursue that path inclined
>>31182583...........Not that Unicornhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicorn_(finance)
>>31182137They started making Hololive covers (there are 4 Ahoy covers btw)And now, other vtuber groups are making covers of their own originalshttps://youtu.be/f24BEhWURbU
>>31182534This would make a good throw to nijikeks, their loyalty deserves an award
>>31182157There's a thread in the catalog and like 5 people asking for this already anon
>>31182374I love this man
>>31182157Silvervale raped Pekora
>>31181774Based on the fiscal report, and from a lot of financial anons input. I say yes
>>31182210>>31182258>>31182276>>31182402>>31182478>>31182498How much do you think Ironmouse is seething rn?She wants to networking with Hololive but her co-worker keep throwing shits at them
>>31182467Roru
>>31182625Retard.
>>31182628>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicorn_(finance) then stop using that word hereIt has different meaning in vtubers world
>>31182628I know, but it's funny when you think about it
>>31182715YAGOO, LET ME INVEST, LET ME INVESTTTT
>>31182752must be frustrating when you're trying to build a bridge but your goons keep blundering the resources to fuel to anti-hololive flame
>>31182752Probably a lot, but it also shows that she barely has any influence in vshojo if those two can just go about and badmouth the people she herself praises.
>>31182374At least we know Yagoo is staying in vtuber industry for long time
>>31181130https://youtu.be/BNhtYxZCMeoThe "English" version also has 300k
Interesting clip on how to grow an audiencehttps://youtu.be/JwHneJwuURM
>>31179618https://www.twitch.tv/rye_project/clip/FaithfulPlacidWrenHumbleLife-UG2p7U3GID8TmZZ2AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>31182296Not really. There's always the first time buff and tourists can always watch their streams for interactions. Funnily enough ff they do decide to play Mori might actually be the one of the last EN to play Rust.
>>31182793This is the numbers thread, anon. lrn2 /biz/
>>31182862Not really but more like they seek to use Vtuber in more ways than just streamer with avatars or performingBasically multimedia route
>>31182374I fucking kneel Sora-poster
>>31182826kinda funny how "talent freedom" will be the thing that stunts vshoujo's growth because they wouldn't shut up about their competitions
>>31179391> NijiENWith 10k subs? get real
>>31182467Thanks for spreading the word, anon. What was their reaction, excluding this retarded first poster
>>31182935I mean he is less likely to cash out and sell the company to other investors
>Mumei still inclining at this hourJP Rust autists tuning in?
>>31182916where talking about the word "Unicorn" anon
Looks like the Council projects are starting to show up. Mumei Okayu Groove Coaster collabhttps://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1560529497853636616
>>31182935The real Metaverse will be create by Hololive itself
>>31183051yea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlyRGXUwjVAnot even 300k after 24h+ LEMAO
Moomhttps://twitter.com/groove_coaster/status/1560524465192243200/photo/1
>>31183099Cute
>>31183099well thats random
So what makes Rust arc more successful than Ark arc?
>>31182752Frustrated, but Omegay probably will not ban collabs since he is incompetent
>>31183052lrn2 /biz/
>>31183031if he cashes out, the first thing investors will do is force him to cut the stars and Yagoo would never do that.
>>31183099That's pretty random combination
>>31183127>>31183099>Mumei with OkayuInteresting pair they picked for this collab
>>31182128Hololive lives rent free in all vtubers around the globe I see....
>>31183127Kek, NijiEN got Genshin and Tower Of Fantasy while HoloEN got...Groove Coaster
>>31183099Nice, this must have been the recording Mumei was also talking about. Shes a navigator. Gura also had a lull from streaming before hers got announced
>>31180915Sana is a great pick though. The actual drawback is that she is not professional enough in streaming because she has other obligations. It does not matter if she loves streaming or not. She just have to stream and she failed to do so.
>>31182907>>31179618Why the hell does her avatar looks like someone Atahuta would like to draw getting dicked? Also, way too old to voice a loli character imo
>>31183127what a weird duo
>>31183156Built-in voice chatRust = totsu
>>31183125it might surprise you but HoloID didn't use ads to boost their song, wild info ik
>>31182467Thanks for spreading the word, anon. What was their reaction, excluding this retarded first poster?
>>31182916Anon, I'm not gonna learn shit from that crypto-suicidal-retard-infested board
>>31183209HoloEN will be inside the gameNijiCN only allowed to play chink games>See the difference NijiKeks?
>>31183156They aren't that different? If you're talking number-wise than it's because the year is 2022 where Vtuber as a genre has gotten kind of mainstream, while ARK was played back in 2020. Entertainment-wise though personally they're about the same, just Rust being bit boring since it's the same gambling shit for some of them.
>>31183099>Default moomCover please ...
>>31183099>Gura x Sora>Mumei x OgayuGura took the job twice
>>31182752This shows how other vtuber companies treat VShojo more like a collective of Vtubers i guess.Instead of some unified group.Hololive collabs with Ironmouse despite Veibei being all but blacklisted.And Nijisanji collabs with Mousey too, despite Kson being fully bpacklisted.
>>31183242Gura is old too, but the main focus is that they have natural loli voices that doesnt sound grating or forced. Gura is a natural at this, same with Kobo.
>>31183156PvPBuilt in proximity voice chatG A C H A
>>31183374That will change now anonSilverShit did something that will forever mark them as HoloLeeches
>>31178942>Then Elira is clearly as much of a daisenpai to NijiEN as Mito to NijiJPYou are completely missing the implication of “daisenpai”. The reason Sora gets the moniker of “daisenpai” is because she’s doesn’t have a senpai, and I don’t mean just on Hololive but in the whole vtuber industry. Sora speak of that herself, see https://youtu.be/Gm1SYoR-t-0She mentions she doesn’t have senpai, and mentions that maybe Siro (which debuted three months before her) and of course Kizuna Aí. “Why isn’t Kizuna daisenpai then”, one might ask? Kizuna holds the title above daisenpai, she’s “oyabun”, the big boss, the Yakuza equivalent to what The Godfather is foe that book. EN for obvious reasons (they’re not Japanese) does not adhere to the strict “senpai- kohai” seniority based hierarchy the nips tho but if they did Elira has no claim on even being above Pomu and Finana, having debuted alongside them, let alone “daisenpai”, being a junior to five myth, all of VShojo and litany of ENVtubers.
>>31183156Beside the obvious zatsu factor, it was also supported by, of course, PekoMikoRust season 1 was boring until Matsuri decided to become the villain and THAT PekoSui raid on Miko houseSeason 2 got supported even harder by PekoMiko creating direct conflict, the unification of blue women that was thought to be impossible, Subaru joining in. Actually literally every First Army beside Marine and Aqua is carrying this game rn
>>31181320Riku can directly donate it to foundations though. So why didn't he?It is because he wanted to show the world that his company makes money, to get ready for the IPO. They wanted their financial statements to look good to scam investors.
>>31183447I commend you for answering seriously but he's shitposting...
>>31183443I hope you are right. These vipers need to be avoided
>>31183157omega isn't the head of managers in EN my guy, Gura's old manager is.
>>31178331>9-9 Oh no no no nijibro not like this
>>31183374Too bad having 2 blacklisted now forms a company
>>31183529How is that of all things shitposting??
>>31183209>Both are chink gamesKekWhy am I not surprised
Festival funneling to Mumei right as she decides to gamble, could pass Ina
>>31183585the guy he replied to is clearly shitposting because it's been suggested before. the word Elira and the word daisenpai should have no association whatsoever
>>31183125makes me feel bad for polka's expensive MV
>>31183447Ironmouse or Nyanners is the dai-senpai of EN vtubing
>>31183559Let's see how she acts
>>31183657> the word Elira and the word daisenpai should have no association whatsoeverNijiEN audience calls her daisenpai unironically. They’re dumb, it would be like calling anyone not Messi or Ronaldo GOAT
>>31183672Are those MVs ever worth it though?
Ina non-Z peak passed with Mumei gambling
>>31183770No
>>31183765>nijikeks with their borrowed termsShameless unoriginal fucks like anykulor
>>31183732I give you ironmouse, Nyanners is a convert whose claim to fame way before having an avatar was doing a very good loli voice to say lewd things>before she disavowed it
>>31183559Gura and Kiara’s, both which shit talked omega and didn’t want into the homo stuff. Both have jokes on stream how Yagoo should increase her salary because off all the work she does. Omegay in shambles
>>31183383May be I'm biasedBut she's more fit with a teen character than a loliIdk
>>31183732>EN>dai senpaias if they do know the meaning of it
>>31183770Marine made money off of Treasure Box
>>31183770It kind of worth it when you are Marine
>>31183585I'm actually curious so I used Fubuki as an example for JP side and Elira for the EN since Nijikek kept bringing her up for some reason
>>31183732Well, and you wonder why ENVtubing is in the shitter ...
>>31183765>NijiEN audience calls her daisenpai unironically.I refuse to believe that. I know they don't care about the JP branch at all but there's no way they don't at least know about Mito
>>31183850I genuinely doubt, even 10M views would only get her around 10k USD in ad revenue
>>31183770It wasnt supposed to earn profits. It was more of a fansa for their fanbase
>>31183811>Nyanners is a convert whose claim to fame way before having an avatar was doing a very good loli voice to say lewd thingsdidn't she do one that was really bad? or am i missing something
>>31183899Iirc elira tried to shut that “elira-daisenpai” thing down but I don’t know if she succeeded at all
>>31183770No, they never make expensive MVs with the intention of making (at least in the short term) money I still feel sad everytime I see how bad Agape performed
>>31183899They do, because they think “daisenpai” is something you plaster on a person to give her more prominence, instead of something a person is due to her own circumstances
>>31183945Pomf pomf
there's no way this thread is so sensitive about ENfags calling people daisenpai
well 12k moom
>>31183559>>31183814>your face when Gura promoted Jenma as head of HoloEN
>calling out the cancerous culture in hololive>talk about avoiding the same cancer>holonigs can't take simple criticism, can only scream "leech", "rent free">turns against 2 of hololive ex-member simply because they joined vshojoHolofags with their brand loyalty
>>31183903that's an absurdly low estimate without mentioning that youtube is just one platform
>>31183770It's an investment. But if you want to go all in on the investment, don't settle with Cover's connections. Get someone else to become your lyricist and Music producer because Cover sucks ass in the music department.
>>31184013What the fuck? I've just been doodling and listening to her in the background. Fucking how? Is SEA coming out in full force?
>>31183834>>31183889Fuck offEven Sora has to call Ironmouse DaiSenpai
>>31184085she's gambling
>>31184048Oh look, the discord trannies are here
>31184048*insert your average vshocuck image here*
>>31184048Vwhorejo is only relevant thanks to Hololive
>>31184085SEA here. Can confirm I’m listening to her while working.
>new ip>the shittiest bait*yawn* looks like they're here again
>>31184048Funnily enough you could say the same thing about nijiniggers by changing the last sentence to “turns against 1 nijisanji ex-member simply because she joined hololive”
>>31184130why did you even give the fag a (you)?
Moom 12k
>>31184048>creates rrats on par with 4 and 5chan for their twitch viewers>claims holo talents can’t talk about themselves or their familiesOne of the most kino moments was Pekomama 1 million sub stream. Also Mori collabed with her mom just this week…
>>31183945>didn't she do one that was really badBased on “current year + 7” cultural sensitivities they were ALL really bad. Based on the internet cultural norms of those days, it was as much a joke as the “N-Word pass” jokes that were on TikTok in 2018. >”Hit or Miss” was 4 years ago, where did time go?Things were much simpler back then.
>>31179061That might be Kawaii Pros Gura but considering Kawaiis turnover tends to be pretty high she might end up in EN4
>>31184107nah, ironmouse herself calls sora daisenpaishe didn't consider herself a vtuber until later when she got l2d
>>31184147
Why hasn't Marine played Rust
>>31184107kill yourself. vshojo barely even count as vtubers. half of them don't consider themselves to be vtubers and the other half clearly hate the concept.
>>31181603>>31181602The weird thing is it's already clipped anyways so there's nothing they can do in retrospect anyways.That being said, Axel was so salty in the first half of the stream and I think he has a non-zero chance of saying the gamer word in the future. Dude was FUMING.
>This is why you shitpost in moderationDo it too many times and people will begin to ignore you
You guys are really easy to farm (Yous) from. Guess it makes sense since /#/ is essentially /hlgg2.0/. Stay classy.
>>31184216>Kawaiis turnover tends to be pretty highI only know of Neena or whatever she was called graduating and then getting terminated for being a retard, who else?
>>31184270They're hardly ignoring him.
during dead hours, i am watching risu play with a rubber duck. my EST ass shouldn't even be up...
>>31184294Peari
>>31184107Sora will call her "Die Senpai"
>>31184236She's playing it tonightit was revealed to me in a dream
>>31184294The red catgirl named Grey
>>31180237It's more that being one requires carrying your company solo for some time which isn't really a thing nowadays
>>31183294HoloEN in games: Groove Coaster, Phantasy Star Online, Call of DutyNijiEN: ???
>>31184312she's a live2d artist now. don't think she wants to go back into corpo work
>>31184311Kek
>biting on the most retarded postnice self-replies
>>31182296Kiara does, but to say Kronii does is a stretch considering she didn't even know the other holos were playing it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SovnLgRP3kY>Aren't they a bit late on the uptake?As long as the server is alive, it'll be a buff game.
>>31184366Fubuki did carried Hololive hard before gen 4 debut though
>>31184085Do you see any other holo streaming?
>>31184260No Silvervale, you are vtuber.
>>31184438
>>31184438Aruran, HOLOstar
>>31184236
>>31184432Yeah but compare time-frameshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0jQn4QItGIHoly shit that Ela rise
>>31184085JP audience starting to tune in since no one else is streaming Rust.
Cover needs to ban collabs with all Vwhorejos. Ironmouse is a unityfag, but the rest of the company wants to destroy the Hololive
Is Mumei the most unlucky Holo in Rust so far? As in, it feels like no one else is on when she's streaming it.Wtf it's 5pm JST. Where is everyone???
>>31184666She said she wanted to try streaming in jp time and that she wanted to fight... unlucky
>>31184666Even if someone was on Mumei would run away from them, she was too scared to approach MatsuriShe needs another EN girl with her to curb her autism
>>31184666Dinner?
>>31184708So irys?
Holy shit. You could legitimately become a 10k chuuba in Hololive doing nothing but play Rust between 2 - 6pm JST when no one else is streaming
>>31184666She should've coordinated with them in discord. There's a reason almost everyone streamed rust on the same day yesterday.
>>31184754Not for NijiCN though
Vesper's latest stream had 5k ccv , no overlapped, nearly 4 hours and his vod hasn't passed 50k yet lmao , i need an explaination for this case
>>31184754If you're JP, you can even get 15k. Just look at Roboco.That being said it's 1am PST/4am EST, so I'm guessing it's mostly SEA and some night owls like myself rn watching Mumei.
>>31184801Low viewer churn and small audience size is the only answer, really. Holostars don't have the same fanbase as Hololive, so even if they get a dedicated 5k people to watch them, there aren't enough people hopping in to increase the view count
>>31184801It's around the same views he gets for his 1 hr zatsus so it's strange. I can only think of extremely strong viewer retention and essentially 0 VOD growth.His 1.5 hr Apex stream yesterday has 20k more despite only peaking by 1.5k more.
>>31184865do they not trigger the YT algorithm gods? or have good clippers?
>>31184801it's FTL... no one really wants to watch games like that. also why are you even looking at his VOD views? are you that bored?
>>31184801fresh viewer base. none of them are flagged like the rest of en watchers.
https://youtu.be/3GRLAYiyrwIlooks like Marine will start the funnel for Noel
>>31184951Sankisei stronk. I guess Pekora is either taking a break today or will stream after the outfit reveal.
>>31184928>why are you even looking at his VOD views? are you that bored?the 'nigs are desperately looking for something to deflect from this
>>31184928NTA but Tempus VOD views have been a discussion topic because they were really shit when they were forced to only stream 1 hour and now that restriction is off, only for the number to barely change. That paired with their low subgrowth implies that they currently have loyal viewers, but it's just those people and they aren't growing.> no one really wants to watch games like that.He literally got 5.5k today which is more than any NijiEN today not from Luxiem.
>>31183125Surprisingly good song actually
>>31183209Idiot, this isn't just some dumb sponsorship. Mumei is actually in the game with full voice lines and it features her original song (A New Start). Obviously a much bigger deal.
>>31184979>it didn't go above 1koh, oh my... i thought she might have clutched a 1k but damn that's rough. pray she isn't a numberfag and is doing it for fun
>>31182089See, this is why Nijisanji is at the top of nips mindshare list, I don't see Cover getting a school named after them
>>31184917Of course they don't, there aren't any clips of them that have over 100k+ views except for the ones where they're interacting with the girlsI don't think people understand just how fucked the EN Stars situation was. You're under the Hololive Production brand, but you can't freely interact with most of the girls without causing insane drama. The history of Stars has been paved with difficulty and heartbreak. Before EN, they were only able to produce one 4view chuuba (Roberu, who averages 1-2k) in 2.5 years. Being associated with a failed branch is never good for audience perception, despite the work the JP Stars put inFurthermore, Stars EN is not featured on the Hololive main channel, there's a separate Stars channel for them, which only further impedes their discoverabilityAt this point, no amount of clipping is gonna save them. They're going to have to dig their heels in and grind out an incline the hard way. That or somehow attract CN / JP / Korean folks into watching them
>>31183099At least nijien has cafe collaboration meanwhile council doesn't.
>>31185035Im actually somewhat convince that this is not a NijiNigger but a ManginaShojos who keeps shitposting those retarded post.I mean, not all NijiKeks are that dumb right?
I just realized that a vshojo shill has spent 7 hours defending Silver on reddit.
>>31185019when i said what i said above i meant as a VOD. i watched him play it live and liked it a lot for a game i never played, but i wouldn't sit through a 4hr VOD for a game like this. just my opinion
>>31185098Well atleast share his embarassing post to the class anon.
>>31184382>hololive in call of dutyWhen?And you forget laplus x pekora x ina x kiara one and yokai watch.
>>31185089seethe
>>31185019So how do they leverage small loyal audience into something that can grow?Getting them into small conventions?Selling merch and then leveraging funds into projects with wider appeal like small fangames?
>>31185068>I don't think people understand just how fucked the EN Stars situation was.You're not wrong about most of your points, but you're also being overdramatic.Even if they aren't getting HoloEN or Luxiem numbers, idk how you can look at Tempus's current numbers and think they're struggling or "fucked", especially compared to StarsJP.They don't even need to be saved by a foreign audience because they have a nice little 10k box in NA hours that is separate from the girls.
>>31181774They're bicorn at least
Funny thread
>>31184951Man they work together like a well-oiled machine. Fucking incredible scheduling
>>31185068>Furthermore, Stars EN is not featured on the Hololive main channelOh right, they are stuck on the EN official channel like girls areMan, talk about shit position, EN management can't use official channels for shit unlike JP and ID ones
>>31185251they didnt even use the redirect (raid) function of youtube, holofans just go to other holo streams voluntarily
>>31185164NTA but here. He posts exactly like the Vshojo shills on this board.The funny thing is that he actually got moderated on reddit while on /vt/ he would be allowed to shit up the board and every general.
Lads, lets have a discussion.What do you think is the best way to grow as a vtuber? of course you can play buff games but that isn't a 100% guarantee to keep the tourists who find the channel. Collabs might work but if their oshi is on while you're streaming they won't watch you.What is the best way to build an audience from nothing and keep them locked into your content.
>>31185164It's so fucking much since he responds to absolutely everyone so here's his profile insteadhttps://www.reddit.com/user/ihhh1/
>>31185321>What do you think is the best way to grow as a vtuber?Get into NijiEN, act gay for chinks and talk about cumming, being a bottom and stuff like that all the time.
>>31182358Which is FUCKING STUPIDANYCOLOR IS THE ONE THAT FORBIDS IT'S LIVERS TO BRING FAMILY STUFF ON STREAMFucking whore can't even get her info correct
>>31185321Clips and music
>>31185287Nah bro, they don't even get to use the Holo EN official channel with the girls, the one that has 500k subsThey have to use the Holostars EN official channel, which got made at the same time as they did, which has less than 60k subshttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJxZpzx4wHzEYD-eCiZPikg
>>31185230Fingers crossed they don't drop significantly more (praying at Regis can hold onto a 2k avg at least until Minecraft arc starts), they don't even really need growth.Being 2-5k streamers is already enough to make a living and be considered successful.Before Luxiem, no one in NijiEN could even get 5k. Hell even now, more than half of them can't and they're doing fine.All the examples of significant incline have been mostly luck related so it's hard to say what they can do. The only consistency is the ones that incline are the hardworking ones who took advantage of the opportunities luck presented to them.
>>31185310continued
>>31185321It all comes down to having 2 of the following: Luck, Talent and Hardwork. Also having a good vision and intuition on what you want your channel to become instead of blindly chasing short term numbers helps.
>>31185321just one viral clip really.
>>31185321There is no one way route anon, its all Luck and Hard workYou keep pumping content that you think is good in the eyes of AlgoAI till you hook the "Luck" that you need to propell your career
>>31185408>The only reason they don't it's because the company is forcing them not to.1) Engish2) Isn't this basically the same argument that the nijinigs used after the discord leak. It's essentially just "Yeah, but the Holo girls are shit-talking niji in secret on their discords, so nijiEN did nothing wrong" tier bullshit.
>>31184528Oh so she hates playing with her coworkers?
>>31185321I would say consistency streaming your time slot but YouTube doesn’t really have the best discoverability’s as other streaming platforms, so I would settle on memes, as it worked for roberu and magni
>>31185405Will EN ever get any content on their official channels that isn't from recycled shorts channel or something girls did themselves?
>>31185321Leech. Leech like hell. And then when you're big enough that the audience you've leeched is more loyal to you, cut off your target so you can continue growing in a different direction. Shoto pulled this off to perfection.Everyone who is big made it big by either leeching or getting lucky in the algorithm, and you can't really rely on the latter.
>>31185408Just one lonely guy can shit up any forums/threadsAs if his white knighting will gain fruit or something
>>31185321In addition to what everyone else is saying (luck+hardwork), inclining as a big corpo vtuber is different from inclining from a 2view indie/startup to 3-4view.The latter is so difficult that you're better off trying your luck at Holo/Niji.
>>31185408>the only reason they don't it's because the company is forcing them not tooMY FUCKING SIDESthis is what creative freedom yields. the right to shit talk with no repercussions
>>31185408He just keeps going https://www.reddit.com/user/ihhh1/comments/
>>31185469>Isn't this basically the same argument that the nijinigs used after the discord leak.It's exactly the same. Some people are just bitter assholes and assume everyone else is the same way.
We are fully in the midst of another Mumei hypnosis session.
>>31179992surprisingly good CoverI checked the original but didn't vibe with it at all, yet this Cover is peppy and loopable
>>31185500At least he is entertaining. Baiters here can learn a thing or two from him.
>>31185321by going viralproject yuires' Ratio went from 30k sub to 60k sub from one short catching the algo. helps that she kept the momentum going by streaming almost daily after. even if a few of them are basically rebroadcast of earlier singing streams.
>>31185558We've been in "vibes" mode for a while. idek what's happening anymore.12k watching for literal mumbling and random muttering.
>>31185537Nah, im good.
>>31185486Hey they got watchalongs of Tempus debuts.
>>31185307I personally believed they have built a box for themselves. A box of around 60k at least that show up whenever Sankisei is on the screen
>>31185608Peak mumblecore
>>31185321> What is the best way to build an audience from nothing You need either to be insanely talented or to have Kazuma (from Konosuba) tier of luck stats. Without that, whatever you are trying, there are seven hundred and thirty three people doing the same, but better. >and keep them locked into your content.That’s the easy part. Pay attention on what buffs you and do that REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU ENJOY DOING IT!The slot that people watches you the most is your 11PM and you like to sleep early? Suck it up and stream late. You hate drawing in front of an audience but they love watching you draw? Suck it up and draw. You love playing JRPG but your audience prefer APEX? Suck it up
>>31185408
>>31179976>if their chemistry actually worksIt doesn't, we already know this. The top JPs are true entertainers when they stream, they're always thinking about the next funny bit or interaction on stream to best entertain their audience. The ENs, including Gura, are terrible at this and just sandbag every possible funny interaction. We saw this in Minecraft and the same will be true in Rust.
>>31185558Has she killed any more indonesians?
>>31185068Idk how you write out a reasonable post then ruin it by being a giant fucking retard and implying they need to be saved. Like what the fuck? Lets just use today as a good example anon>Vesper managed to hold 5k people to watch FTL for 3-4 hours and peak at the very end for 5.5k in EU TIME>Regis Apex collab had no funnel nor raid to inflate their startup, and managed to climb through the entire stream and peak at the very end, compared to last Apex which dropped from 5k to 4k and remain there>Magni just pulled a double 9k with Mori where she herself hit 10k, with his vod now over 70k and gaining a full 1k subs just off the collabAh yes, they’re in dire need of saving…Fuck off with that. They know it’s an uphill battle and they’re gonna keep putting things out there for people. But they’re in no way shape or form in need of saving. That’s overdramatic bullcrap that seeps into the rest of the tourists and anons who post here. Don’t do that
>>31181902
>>31185666lmaothere you go, thats the problem!
Blessed numbers
>>31184979>nijisis now coping with vod views>vs homoEnholy shit, what's happening
>>31185310>DeletedHuh?
>>31185758automod probably
>>31185352I wouldn't be too hard on the guy. He clearly is in a bad place and needs some help
>>31185758The entire thread got nuked by the mods, probably because it was blatant bait
>>31185678If Tempus needs to be saved, then StarsJP is so dead that their corpses have been reabsorbed by the Earth already lmao
>>31185710
>>31185793mucho mucho texto
God this graph is a beauty.
>>31185793STOP!!!We dont need to learn anything about that schizo
>>31185678Anon, I'm squarely in Tempus camp, I haven't missed a single Nowa zatsu and Maglord stream except for Olie APEX collabSure they're not in dire need of saving and they're doing extremely well compared to Iluna, but you're fucking blind if you can't see that their future is shakier than Iluna.They currently have reached their viewership cap, and I hope to god Omega have some plan for the bois
>>31185666bross
Are you guys in the mood of learning about kasti?
>>31185352Sound like our local Nijifriend
>>31183899https://youtu.be/O_XjY12cRiw
13k get with migo on moom's telly
[NEWS] MIGOTI GOT FUCKED BY A BEAR LIVE ON MOOMER STREAM
Mumei is an absolute menace
moom 13k.
>>31185837JP rust viewers tuning inEspecially now that Migo appeared
every EN Holo should be playing late night RUST
>>31184801Wouldn't that give an average watchtime of ~24 minutes? It seems high
>>31184065Average ad revenue payout is $3-5 per 1000 views.10,000,000 divided by 1,000 is 10,000. Times 5 would be 50,000 and going off what Marine said about Unisons cost Treasure box was minimum 6 digits USD. This is before Cover or royalties to the songwriter or producers.
No one posted it, but Oliver Evans 3D happening on the 26th, some EN will show up https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1560537210650505217
not sure if moom got selen or the vspo/774/neoporte monhun
>>31185930Migo buff
>>31185884Is she that history and 4X niji?
This Rust arc unironically won't die as long as PekoMiko still on the server. More and more Holo will join and orbit them
>>31185817I mean most people here do in fact think that.
>>31185910Elira based as always
>>31185968Moom got the Miko boost
>>31185991Why do you think Minecraft is dead right now? No Pekora or Miko. The entirety of Hololive revolves around what those two are doing
>>31185968Better. Miko came onstream
>>31185968miko
>>31186034>came onsteamh-hot
>>31185793Please stop dragging some mental faggot's dirty laundry into fucking /#/
>>31186002""""""""""based"""""""""https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hdCGR9ezWk&t=8579s
>Cover>billion dollar companyYou guys are out of your mind. Not even top flesh streamer groups would be worth that much if they formed a corpo.
>>31185986>historyYes>4XNah, I don't think she ever played that kind of game
>>31183732calling Nyanners daisenpai is like calling Hajiki daisenpai.
>>31186104I remember someone talking about niji that does history and Stellaris with members
>>31185793>vshojo schizo is literally autistic
>>31185910at least she's level-headed about it but some of her fanbases are very insistent about it. like, why?
>>31186138Don't disrespect the 100 CCV King
>>31186097>no link postare you talking to yourself anon?
>13k at literally 5AM ESTholy RUST buff I kneel
moomers planning to bomb mikochi
>>31185884Fuckin leech. They literally had to wait for Hololive to lift up vtubing in ID before going back in it again.
>>31186145Wait, you're right>2 years agoOuch
>>31186094Copying Holos again?
>>31186151The same reason Teamates think Ame is an unparalleled creative genius in vtubing. Part of it is adoration and respect, part of it is blind loyalty
>>31185321> be entertaining> have a consistent timeslotthat's literally itfor more bonuses, find a niche that isn't catered to but you think you can turn it into "your thing".like Vesper with FTL.
>>31185910Isn't the dai senpai for EN vtubers is Gura?
>>31185965Yeahhh.... About when we expected>Lauren...>Axia...Hoping for 100k with the CN and EN buffs.Realistically, 65k.
[NEWS] MOOMER IS CONFIRMED TO BE AN EAST COAST WEST COAST NIGGAS EAT SHIT
>>31186097Cover already earned $100M on the recent fiscal year, and that's only the company taking the minimum cuts from the talents themselves. If you combine Cover + Talents, they probably earn double or triple that within a single year. Which is why anycolor's financial statement isn't that impressive when you consider that they profit more from the merch sales/VPs/Albums/sponsorships etc while giving insignificant cuts to the talents while also not paying them any salaries.
>>31186318no, it's ironmouseactually it's annoying orange
>>31186187that Like count, yep, she's getting flooded by JOPs, good for her for picking up the funnel that no one else was on to take
>>31186293back then AMe noticeably making alot of creative contentbut now, she doesnt, she keep saying shes doing alot but we dont see most of it (maybe mostly backstage like kiara concert)
>>31185965The 26th is already locked down for Niji with the Koshien Exhibition Match >>31179271
>>31186329This is a Pekora thread you little shit
>>31186318I think EN VTuber culture in general has no strict senpai kouhai dynamics, and they should not appropriate words that are used within that context to express something that lacks that context.
>>31185965En mems really love to leech on their Jp counterparts
>>31186350I would honestly be more interested to compare the income of similar talents, but i doubt that will ever be more than speculation
>>31186329Next you're going to tell us she lives in Florida.Or worse...Georgia
>>31186318Definitely not someone from Nijisanji. Vshojo and Hololive shaped the kind of western vtubers we have today.
>>31186328Bro if Lain got 105k, Oliver will easily get more than that with the NijiEN boost.
>>31186370>Moving parts were live action footage, instead of digitally tracked.It's time to let him go anon.Annoying Orange was never a Vtuber.
>>31186374There are thousands of chuubas making creative content that you've never heard of outside of Hololive. It's fine to think Amelia is creative, I think she is too. It's another thing entirely to believe that she's the glue that holds HoloEN together like some people have stated or that she's a "genius." She's a smart girl who knows quite a lot about tech and utilizes it well for her streams. Still think people like CodeMiko are more talented than her, but that's just my opinion
guess who gonna join?https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1560551615924301825
>>31186350 (me)>While also having 4x the talents >While also pushing out $100 merch that's only key chains, wall scrolls, acrylics and VPs>while also not reinvesting the money earned from branches into the branch again>>31186428Assume that the first army earns as much as other 20k streamers on twitch or just use the payout leaks from twitch, miko earned $240k while pekora earned $90k iirc.
>>31186318There's no daisenpai for EN, it's not a title that translates 1:1
Mooners ended.
>>31185926Mikochi continues to be the mascot...
>>31186370Eh, I'd say Natsume Moe is more appropriate for that title than Ironlung.
>>31186502>Still think people like CodeMiko are more talented than her, but that's just my opinionProbably on the technical side, but CodeMiko has shown that she's just a fad and can't retain an audience for shit as a streamer.
>>31186510oh no no nokoyowhore gonna leech if see this
>holofags would rather watch the StarEN crash and burn than allowing crossgender collab to boost and lift them up>with excuses like "it doesn't work" and "they don't need it"So much for "friendship" and "family".
Huh, Chloe and Aruran are both streaming Slay the Spire soon. I guess Cover got broad permissions for the game if both Live and Stars are starting it at the same time.
AYAME SOONhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UW0H08MAgQ
>>31186510Time for Koyori
>>31186510Man I really want to see the blue women alliance happen.
>>31185842>you're fucking blind if you can't see that their future is shakier than IlunaOkay timetravelerchama, tell us all about their shakier future compared to Ilama, then.
>>31186650anon...
all these daisenapi talks made me look up clips of Sora. jesus, the other girls are genuinely terrified of her and do not want to offend her. https://youtu.be/O1ZCPLqMcvI(Pekora)https://youtu.be/kmPZedPj36U(Korone)
>>31186640Worry about your own house first, faggot.
>>31186650>2 weeks ealyI don't believe you.She will not stream till the week of her anniv.
>>31186510PEKORA PLS PEKORA PLS PEKORA PLSAND NOT PINKWHORE
>>31186650Damn that's a good game she's gonna be playing.Wonder if it will be popular in JP audience though.
>>31186565it's Ami Yamato
>>31186097Fleshstreamers unironically earn less than holomen except is some extreme casesTheir main revenue comes from sponsorship while holo relies on merch and events, not to mention the fact that Cover is branching out to gamedev
>>31186370Has Ironlung ever done anything meaningful for the EN industry before Myth blow up?
>>31186713Nijisanji copying Hololive again?
>>31186640>Unironically think that cross brand collab will boost the Homo upLol, lmao even
>>31186774She occasionally reacts to small indies and ask her audience to check them out i think
>>31186774pioneered the genre on twitch
>>31186641Is it a good streaming game? Hell, is it even a good game at all?
>>31186641Genuinely wonder how well she’ll do in all facets. Like, STS is definitely not a good streaming game if you’re bad at it. Good players can reset quick and climb up without worry but a bad player stuck in act 2 is just rough to watch.Also I’m sure it’s a fresh account so no ascension ranks. My A20 runs…
>>31186711Unironically, the girls putting Sora on a pedestal is one of the reasons why her numbers are in the bottom 20% of HoloJP.She has almost no rapport or chemistry with anyone, except Azki and Iofi, because they all treat her like she's a living goddess.She's in her own little bubble that none of the Holos want to intrude in and that isolates her from the holobox imo.Did Sora even attend Usaken fes last year?
>>31186713Lmao a fucking Holosummer rip off
>>31186510Koyo
Why do I love Tempus so much but hate Nijimales?
>>31186650ignoring the shitpost aspect, this seems like the first time a holopro member has streamed Slay the Spire. I've heard anecdotally that JP fans like card games and luck-influenced roguelikes and this one even has a possible fan interaction component with people backseating what relic choices etc to make..Also looks like that means that the perms should be available at least to ask for for Holostars who have said they were interested in it as well, but their audience is so different that debuff/buff status would be hard to figure out
>>31185991I can't confirm this but some 35p is saying Miko might not join next season of rust.
>>31186835>Did Sora even attend Usaken fes last year?Yes, she had great date with AZKi, it was terrifyingly cute!They even had a meeting with Pekora where she saved them!
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1560537471125168128Hololive summer festival in Shinjuku >Giant capsule watamelon split
>>31186835>Did Sora even attend Usaken fes last year?Yes. She streamed with Azki. They got front row seats to the Gura/Ame fist fight.
>>31186818>>31186827Did she even have an audience big enough for it to be meaningful like Ai?
>>31186852Culture and personality
>>31186827Isn't that Zentreya and Sen*wa if we count twitch?
>>31186852You're a Holodrone
>>31186881azki my beloved
>>31186658Iluna currently pulls from much larger audience compared to Tempus anon, even if none of them got much loyal viewers compared to Tempus. That's the big advantage of one big single branch.Tempus needs a breakthrough and hopefully EN management have one in their pocket
>>31186860Yeah but it's a roguelike anon, and most of it's elements are shared by the game cult of the lamb. It's probably going to be a case by case Since Vampire survivors was popular. But my current prediction is meh.
Nayuta, is it good down there?
>>31186852Because they’re targeting different audiences. Someone who enjoys FTL and TTRPG explanations is a different audience than RP ASMR
>>31186828It's a pretty good game, combining deck building with roguelike elements. Whether it's fun to watch or not though really depends, also expect some fags backseating on which deck is the best build.
>>31186650>AYAME SOONThats Slay the SpireNot Slay the Koreans
>>31186828It’s a really rough streaming game if you’re not familiar with the game. You can easily fuck yourself over with poor deck control or lack of knowing what to get/what to do. Slay the Spire is arguably the greatest roguelike ever though. If you don’t want to accept that, it’s at least the greatest deck builder ever. Really fucking good game with hundreds of hours of replayability. It’s just getting to that point is a slog
>>31186869Right, I remember now.Still, my point stands that I don't think many Holomems feel comfortable around her enough to joke around and that severely limits the entertainment and appeal of a Holo collab.Pretty sure Sora has stated before too that she doesn't like being treated special either.
all the people responding koyo to that suisei thing really don't know her at all
>>31186852Actual brotubers banters with occasionally retarded sex joke from Maglord vs [Dungeon Rape ASMR] You will cum for me
>>31186923What was iLunas last 9k stream. Any at all on their channels?
>>31186929Are Hal, Reid and Yui the only Neo Porte members that can get decent numbers regularly? The rest all seem to be StarsJP level at best.
>>31186835she doesn't even want big numbers. she's happy with her small loyal fanbase
>>31186852Depends on which Tempus blokes. It helps that, if you're a dude, aside from Magni there hasn't been a whole lot of faggotry, and with Mag he at least mixes it up. Also no hard coom pandering.
>>31186835to be fair, Sora is scared of big numbers. also, I understand why the other girls are afraid of her because if you say the wrong thing and sully her name/image, you are going to catch flak. this is where Mito's shitposting image helps because it makes her kouhai easier to connect with her whereas Sora represents the idol aspect of Hololive that you're not allowed to taint.
>>31186713Good, the lower her number the sooner she'll release another finance streamJust accept your role as the Vox equivalent in niji girls finana
>>31186941Yeah I have a feeling that whatever performance this game will get is probably the same numbers Bindings of Isaac and Hades will get in HoloPro Viewers. Roguelikes that requires you to play extra hours to unlock good content is not good for casual viewers.
>>31186965That one faggot who did a tier list with enna yesterday
>>31186650I wonder if this is the result of Vesper asking around for permissions
>>31186943The problem from what i can see is more from Sora side. This girl is just really weird, it's like she has some kind of autism.
>>31186929>Gets over 2k on karaokes>Can't get 200 on game streams
>>31186909Sen was a pngtuber
>>31187011I'm pretty sure she is severely autistic
>>31186881>>31186920cute bean
>>31186973Emperor and Reid have their own followers, sadly they don't churn into the Neo Porte box at all, probably because there's pretty few interactions between them outside APEX. Yui is bigger than the other runts because she gained some following with her utawaku. As for the others they just can't seem to craft a niche even inside their own box.
>>31186891pretty small (3views range) but was one of the earliest on twitch with l2d avatar>>31186909no ironmouse been around longer
>>31186943>>31187011The problem with Sora is that she is too untouchable and too immune to slapsticks. So any energy that other holo may try to throw on her gets soaked off. Hence the difficulty in finding chemistry with others.
>>31186965You're being disingenuousPulling small viewer from big pool is much more preferable compared to the opposite.
>Cover gets an award from one of their big investors, a bank>Anycolor announces a suspension for their liver due to slander and harassment (An excuse for Axia to take a break from being a menhera)How does Anycolor manage acceleration when the risks keeps multiplying for every new gen that they do? Sure, it doesn't cost much to debut a gen, but it's increasing riskier to manage a talent from having a fallout and tarnish the brand.
>>31186650My numbercock is throbbing.The next week will be filled with slay the spire playthroughs.
>>31186993Yeah the problem is that if it’s a fresh account, you have to level each class to max rank for all possible relics and cards to use in your runs, then each character has their own ascension rank to climb through, so it’s a lot of grinding. I don’t expect much coming out of it but it’s a really interesting choice. I don’t really watch chloe but I’ll tune in since I love the game
>>31187011Yeah, she actually ended up building the best looking neighborhood in Micra alone which included making it less flat which made other JP scared of her>>31187011She's a natural idol!She doesn't need dance practice, she just improvises on stage for example!
For that one guy who was curious how Mori v Magni VoDs would look currently it’s 121k v 82k after 4 hours
>>31186965Tierlist stream and mario party lmao , only when your tempiss collab with someone in holoen can pull up anything over 9k
>>31186650Okay, redpill on this game
Speaking of Sora, what are chances of future Anya collabs?Their chemistry is dangerous in all the wrong way which is a sight to behold
>>31187062>How does Anycolor manage accelerationThat's the fun part of accelerating, as long as you don't slow down and think for a second you can just keep going, where you end up is a matter of debate.
>>31187041wish yui join holo, but ... :((
>>31186867yes she won't play next seasonin fact she won't stream much starting next month
>>31187049Subaru's collab with her was great since Subaru is great at talking. But Sora's schedule doesn't help eitherhttps://youtu.be/2Y8J7LMUtqQhttps://youtu.be/rzqyqPmMoWk
>>31187113Either it will get Vampire survivors numbers or Cult of the lamb numbers. Leaning on latter.
>>31187139What happened anon?
>>31187041Don't forget that mfmf also has a hand in this mess, his viewer is worse than fancucks
>>31186965Probably Mario party on Ren's channel for 11k.I don't think anyone argues that Tempus is doing better than iLUMA right now in terms of daily numbers and consistency, but you can't deny that ceiling for iLUMA is much higher simply because it's NijiEN and they have a large audience pool compared the the 10-12k pool Tempus has at most.
>>31186952yeahhungry heyna
>>31187065>you have to level each class to max rank for all possible relics and cards to use in your runs, then each character has their own ascension rank to climb throughthat's literally not true, you only need to play one character and do different kinds of builds with the cards you obtained after every battle. For example, you choose the dragon character, you can go for a glass cannon all damage build, defense build or a balanced build to finish off the last boss. For each final boss you battle, you'll ascend to another level and from there, the rounds would get much more harder. It's a game of maths and calculating risks in the end.It's more easier than hades when starting out since they don't block stuff from being played
>>31187126Especially after this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExJ4JMIaf9EYui wtf why didn't you join Hololiveeeee (Not that I think anyone in HoloX should be replaced)
>>31186860Pretty sure one of the Holostars has it on his schedule alreadyAs for whether it's a buff or not... that's a little hard to determine. It's a roguelike, which isn't necessarily a buff or a debuff. It's an extremely well-received game though, so I know people will tune in just to see at least the first playthrough. If you're bad at the game or don't bother to understand the rules / how to build a deck (hint, don't take every shitty card you can just to have a larger deck. it's absolute cancer when you have 40+ cards), I could see people losing interestHowever, the fact that you can have chat interact with you to help you choose relics, cards, and paths does seem like a buff. I'd expect something like a 1.25x multiplier in ccv for playing this game the first time, where .75x is a "debuff game" and 1.5x is a "buff game"
>>31186973>>31187041I think Forte gets pretty decent numbers too.Not low 3view like the dudes at least.
>>31186941>Really fucking good game with hundreds of hours of replayability. It’s just getting to that point is a slogThen it's dead in the West
>5ch is shitting on kanatan for thishttps://youtu.be/Flb659QU1no?t=2457
>>31186952I just wanted to egg on Koyo schizo
Moom new coverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-bBKa8Bb_Qit won't be as fast as dandan..
>>31187279what happen?
>>31187191This is a bit like saying Tempus have a higher ceiling because Vesper got 17k with Mori
>>31187307...are you fucking serious?Most of those 17k viewers are Mori's retard bro, it was on her channel afterall
>>31187279So they shat on Kanata for being no content or something?
>>31187307That was on Mori's channel and Ren is going to beat that with karaokes anyways.We've already seen multiple Tempus full collabs peak at 6-9k.
>>31187240It’s funny how playing through ascensions completely changes how you have to play. Low rank ascensions and base game it’s like whatever, you can get away with dumb shit. By the time you’re A15+, if you don’t sell off strikes/defends and play around small decks with the right cards you just get gigafucked by act 2 mini bosses or hell, even the trash packs. Ironclad and Watcher are the only 2 I genuinely feel safe playing at A20
>>31187094The double POV is probably going to help him here
>>31187240I know it had its heyday in the west about 4-5 years ago, I probably have over 300 hours on it myself, just don't know where to put it if we're talking about similar peer games like Vampire Survivor, Holocure, or whatnot.All I know is that somehow Noir will get a steady 4.5 - 5.5k watching for 3 hours straight if he decides to stream it with the same prep as his first Zomboid or FTL
>>31186990>>31187049>>31187145Wondet if that's the reason why YAGOO hired degenerates like festival and Friend afterward ...
>>31185910Based. Anyone who try to attach that title to EN is retarded.
>>31187011Anon, it's unfortunate but when it comes to streamers, your personality choices are basically autism or menhera.
Indie gold>Indie goldIndie gold>Indie gold
>>31183156No Coco no Aqua no Marine
it's unironically Melody's fault so many whores became vtubers that's why the quality of vtubers is so low in the indie space. but sex sells i guess.
>>31187440Unless this dude can pull over 60k for mahjong, it's easily slippable to Noel's outfit reveal
>>31186735nigga Micomet vs Peko blue alliance will be far more kino
>>31187268>dudesEverybody forgets the Neo catgirl. Even me.
>>31187290We were robbed out a million…The illegal dan dan reupload has over 200k views by now too. It’s like a kr upload too or something
>>31187474I was about to call bs, but ... Yeah, maybe you're rightWorst part is that from my limited observation, she's not that bad as a person
>>31187414I just watched a clip where Pomu addressed the issue too. The talents are very level-headed about it while the people in the comment section want them to have that title one day. why do they want them to have that title so bad?
>>31187493Marine will also be funneling for Noel so 100k isn't a dream.
>>31187474Also the retarded trend of>My Vtuber model vs Me irl
>>31186828good beginner friendly streamers like Okayu can make it an amazing experience, but it's a tough game to stream for run of the mill chuubas.I'll check out Chloe and see how she's playing it at least.
>>31187413Nah, Sora used have her moments too. It's just that newfags are jerking off to the MAH UNTOUCHABLE DAI SENPAI way too much.
>>31187513>why do they want them to have that title so bad?Because they're retarded. There are a lot of really fucking retarded EOP vtuber fans, for Holos and for Nijis.
>>31187513Children see it as a shiny new thing and they want it.
>>31186993Best way to play these games is as follows -1. One stream where you start with a fresh account, and explain the game to your audience if you've played it, or if you're playing for the first time, enjoy the experience alongside your audience.2. Play offstream for at least 10-20 hours, unlock at least 80% of the shit you need to make the game fun.3. Stream again and explain what you did offstream and show your audience the new shit.4. Continue streaming and unlocking more advanced stuff, if you like the game and have enough of an audience interested in it.
>>31186650he's back!
>>31187440Tenkai Tsukasa is essentially a niji, so any gold that he gets should be classed as niji gold.
>>31187496ah sorry not pink migobut pinkoyotewhore
>>31187604Does anyone know what he works as?
>>31187113Roguelike deckbuilding game.Very fun to play. Not sure how fun it will be to watch.Good streamers can make this an insane buff, bad streamers will tank their numbers with it.
Summit's Rust Viewer's went kapoot just around the time Mumei started her Rust stream. Coincidence?
>>31187307Retarded , it wasn't even on his channel
>>31187619he's a tech guy for a bank
>>31187546If she did then I can tell you that she dialed that aspect of her down by a lotBecause by the time I watch Hololive (Around Gen3/4), Sora already has that "Goddess" image attached to her
>>31187604Isn't that the guy whos head over heels to Rushia?
>>31187224ikr :'((
>Sora >UntouchableShe literally did a romantic VN with another chuuba back in the day and wore cat cosplay for sexual reasons
300K get
>>31186329
>>31187604I never pay attention to Orca-kun supa but is he fucking using $100 supa just to roleplay as a real orca ???
>>31187224she might have applied but get rejected anonholo doesnt tell anyone how many applicants they receive
>>31187561>>31187580did anyone/fanbase in EN try to say myth is daisenpai? I guess it's a lot harder when there are way fewer talents to go around
>>31187695Will she do another Date stream on her anniversary?
>>31187680Your Vietnamese is leaking my comrade
>>31187731Anon, idk about Niji, but HoloEN fans actually do their repsThey're not that retarded
>>31187604He is honestly destined to be cucked by Rushia and start simping for the actual Orca chuuba
daisenpai is our 'n word'
>>31187676yes, maybe he's fully transitioning to Chloe. who am I kidding, he will go back to Rushia in 2 weeks
>>31187753God I hope so, last one was actually dangerous for my health
mio 10k getto !
>>31187778No, that's Flare
>>31186923I might have agreed with you if they were Hololive members. But remember that Hololive numbers are - by definition - numberrot inducing outliers in this industry.What you're seeing is a VTuber group slowly and steadily growing by around 2-3k new subs (and potential audience) every day.Their numbers are stabilizing at around 2-5k right now, but just like Mio and Subaru did, their numbers a year from now have the potential to be much higher than they are now. Especially if they continue putting out great content and don't burn out.
>>31187785>he will go back to Rushia in 2 weeksNazu talk to men on stream IIRC, maybe hes woken up from his delusion of her
https://twitter.com/namelesstwo0w0/status/1560549447464980480I don't know where else to share this buthaha, it's L*l*...
>>31187731None, then again the initial fanbase of myth was already clipwatchers so they already know the history of hololive and they can easily teach the newfags
>>31187546It's only she is helping the case, there are many time she can be in a Minecraft server with 3 to 4 people and she doesn't approach them, she just stick to playing by herself.
>>31186510I'm gonna go wild. Iroha.I think too many holos are already too established with their bases to move on. Need someone that didn't really play yet.
Why are all the fucking blue women gathered on Pekora side of the Rust map??? Suisei is trying to drag Lamy to live with her on the West side as well
More clip numbers.Pekora(10->1), Miko(2->2) with Rust, HL Official(11->3) with Summer, and everyone else is about the same within the top 10.Good performances by Fubuki(16->11), Fauna(18->12), Aqua(24->14), Chloe(48->19), Saku(61->27), Flare(53->28), Himawari(100->29).Split today is 17.9M(-870k) HL to 12.2M(-180k) NJ.
>>31187816good for him
>>31187819Oh nice, he drew another Sora image!Her replying to him must have turned him into Soratomo
>>31187731A very big of HoloEN fan are HoloJP fan. In their eyes there's not a big separate from the 2 branch so there were never that kind of talk in the beginning of myth. I do afraid of En3 though.
>>31186510>>31187851Sounds like she is asking for a grind gopher rather than an alliance. So probably someone who hasn't played the game but are willing to grind like Choco.
>>31187856Graph.
>>31187731None. They know the Myth's place because they watched HoloJP first. It's retarded anyway because who give daisenpai status to 5 people? Or 3 people on Nijiside when they have a senior. The IDs were already EN lite at that time as well and we don't call Moona, Risu or Iofi Daisenpai of side branches/ID
>>31187875あれ
>>31187224this dude is a stellar clipper, he clips so many obscure Suisei related stuff that I'm mostly used to seeing from Hoshiyomi Prime.his little animated segments are quite cute.
>>31187855Channeling their inner Blue women power. Unironically need Kronii and Kobo to join in and complete the collection.
>>31187875Engish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HogN5nWkmo8M subs ID youtuber decided to make a vtuber avatar.He is the one Kobo take her persona from and her fanbase overlaps with him
>>31187865I think NLO has always been a Soratomo. She drew a lot of Sora in her old account before Twitter purged them all.
>>31187674It's not about her image, she used to be more leisured during her streams but just like most of the Holos she became more firm after the EOP boom back in 2020.
Mumei with the retard gold or does Luxiem have a 10 liver collab again?
>>31187920Wait, NLO’s a woman?
https://youtu.be/BvNd19Rb3W0Pekora's stream tomorrowbuff or debuff game?
>>31187919So basically like Hikakin and Pokimane
>>31187929Luxiem vs Noctyx Chivalry. Vox might get 20k for this.
>>31187657Funny coincidence, seems highly unlikely that Mooms would manage to yoink that much when they're not even on the same platform.
>>31187708>hard working hag>could also singkaela really is an enigma
>>31187719Based?
>>31187695>She literally did a romantic VN with another chuuba back in the dayShe also had a several 3D in person collabs with Gatchman, a VR game nonetheless.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPK7v7Hn1iIeven on her own channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfihFImbH7I
>>31187958How the fuck is she streaming a DS game? Did it get released on Wii U in Japan or something?
https://youtu.be/nysKtgJxgn0
>>31187958Neutral but she will be receiving the funnel from the mio 3d gameshow so 30k-35k
>>31187988He's kamen rider so it's okay
>>31187604I actually thought this was Ayame stream.What the fuck, why does Chloe's thumbnail look so much like Ayame?
>>31187958Wait so this is the game she waited 8 months of perm hell for? What makes it different from other DQ games?
>>31187960I kneel...
>>31187957Yes, although it could be just a one time thing, for a charity.But if he decided to continue using it and do a collab with Kobo, Kobo will incline harder than ever.
>>31187998sousage legendo. shubanglish is so cute.
>>31188013She's becoming!
>>31187998>>31188024FYI, sausage legend is doing their own summer event where they put bikinis on hotdogs
>>31188013what the fuck happened to ayame again? was it a family issue or is she just not interested in streaming anymore
>>31187958Looks like it's an old DS game that won Japan Game Awards in 2007. Probably a buff for the japs?
>>31187988Don't forget about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsBD66Sa5Yg
>>31187958YO IS THIS HER NEW WEEKEND SERIES?Anyway DQ is only a neutral game for her
>>31188045kek wtf
>>31187958Wait did holo somehow manage to get permission to use emulators or modded DS's to stream, or how the hell is this gonna work?
>>31187731Because Myth was being doomposted to hell and back as being "the end of hololive" because it was considered as an incursion of western locusts into something everyone in the community had been enjoying until then.Kinda funny to think everything people were afraid of coming from HoloEN actually came from NijiEN 2 years later.
>>31188054grandma/mother hort, i think?
>>31188015It's a different series altogether. Also the first DQ to use 3D graphic afaik
>>31187960>20kPersonally I think he will get 12~15k max, the 2nd Luxiem will be Shu and he will get 7~8k. Noctyx will settle at 1-3k
>>31188074https://twitter.com/SausageLegend/status/1559864966702071808
>>31188015if it's like that shitty 16 bit dqm game that koyo played a while ago, it's basically pokemon but with dragon quest monstersthat one sucked, don't know much about this one
>>31188015>>31188075>株式会社スクウェア・エニックス協力の下、特殊環境にてゲームプレイを行っています。Probably got the permission to use modded DS, which is why it took her hell of a long time to get it.
>>31188098I meant the Perms. Why did this one took so fucking long to get. Is it because of the game being a DS title?
>>31188054Her mother is on the death bed. Not shitposting
>>31188075how did Niji play pokemon black & white?
huh this thread has been up for five hours, that's new