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>>28657575god I hope not, his voice gave me cancer
Reminder to never trust posts coming from the Lie:Verse. If it has no screencap or cannot be verified, assume that it is a Nijinigger trying to shit up the thread.Nerver trust Nijiliars
>>28656655So this suppose to be impressive?
Darkskinned nijiEN is gonna be like nina right? She has that wine aunt energy
* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *>62,890: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>45,802: Suisei (Hololive)>39,934: Salome (Nijisanji)>39,429: Pekora (Hololive)>38,090: Tamaki (NoriPro)>36,815: Tsukasa (Indie)>34,416: Pekora (Hololive)>32,780: Miko (Hololive)>32,595: Maimoto (Nijisanji)>26,350: Laplus (Hololive)>25,603: Mumei (Hololive)>18,748: Patra (774 Inc.)>17,910: Towa (Hololive)>16,491: Luca (Nijisanji)>15,433: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)>14,835: Uki (Nijisanji)>14,666: Iroha (Hololive)>14,205: Lize (Nijisanji)>13,186: Reid (Neo Porte)>12,513: Koyori (Hololive)>12,276: Laplus (Hololive)>12,209: Matsuri (Hololive)>11,156: Kronii (Hololive)>10,914: Koyori (Hololive)>10,281: Akira (Nijisanji)>10,257: Sana (Hololive)
>>28657575 Why would someone with over 2 million subs join Holostars?
>>28657776>>28657865If you go to his twitter he repeatedly RT's someone who's a vtuber, so he's absolutely familiar with it. No clue who she is though since his channel follows her too and she's from Australia also
>>28657850>JULY 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien>PER COMPANY10x: Hololive8x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER5x: Pekora2x: Ibrahim1x: AZKi, Kuzuha, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Tsukasa>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY128x: Hololive61x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER23x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Salome13x: Kuzuha, Miko9x: Subaru6x: Hal5x: Kanata, Marine4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Suisei, Toya3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Nijisanji, Okayu2x: Ange, Fuwa, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka, Towa, Ibrahim1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa,, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>>28657373The issue with HoloEN is there's no box to build when half the roster is MIA/injured/resting almost all the time. It took HoloJP years to build a roster big enough for weekly events. HoloID had a similar problem until they found their Gura and a few consistent stream monsters to make up for the deadweights.>>28657637Happened once and she got grossed out by cringe voice requests and added a rule to not request them anymore. Kinda killed her SC potential along with other factors.
jwu, nijisanji announced wave 6? And with 6 members?
>>28657865PEWDIEPIE ON STARSENYOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST
>>28657323In an alternate universe we got a Kronii who was very similar to how she is now except:> She streamed Minecraft more consistently in the beginning, including a series on the building of the Bunkeronii, and actually went for the improv "war" opportunity with Fauna> Did more karaokes (people fucking love her deep voice on certain songs and I think she only ever did like 3 karaokes)> Did more VA/scenario streams> Dips into her voice acting skills without cringing at herself to death. e.g. playing along with Gura for kawaii uguu shit and valley girl, we all know she can do it but she chooses not to as Kronii except on rare occasions> Did a few original songs and coversI dunno, I think things would have been different if the above happened. But whatever, she's doing fine even if she never hit her full numbers potential
>>28657798I love this ritual post the most
Haachama 4k on twitch
>>28657743Sex with blue poison
>>28657743Final /news/ roundup for 19-07-2022>>28593844Additional news>>28594312 >>28594801 >>28595176 Recent clip numbers>>28580043 >>28580098>>28580362 >>28580412
>>28657743Link for this nice pic?
>>28657865Yeah I don't see it, he doesn't have any interest in hololive and follows 2 vtubers, 1 is niji
This is why we never give Nijifans the chance to sperg out.
TEMPLEOS BROS WE'RE GETTING MAGGED HARD BY THESE GENSHIN FUCKS
>>28658072Anon, click the arrow at the end of the post.
>>28657929>It took HoloJP years to build a roster big enough for weekly events.The holoEN box is nowhere near as powerful as the JP one but it is there. Also, accelerating holoEN to niji levels won't get you that, it will only outright kill any box.
>>28657743True average of CCV, 20 or more streams, July 1 to July 14>>28395887 LIST OF 100K+ STREAMS>>28429118 >>28429188 Council 30 days true average>>28552826 :: Fauna>>28553802 :: Mumei>>28554518 :: Kronii>>28554951 :: Bae>>28555400 ::Sana>>28582197
>>28658083Well before we throw the possibility out of the way, remember that Kobo didn't even know what the fuck vtubers/hololive was. Her friend told her about an audition and that was that. Also Moona didn't even know either from my knowledge, so it's not out of the picture that someone would find interest in the possibility in advancing their career
>>28657964It's a 50% shitpost that is almost 100% guaranteed to hold true in every thread. I'll keep posting it until the thread shitting stops or I get banned.
>>28658018Chamers already beating some top vtubers on twitch already LMAO
>>28658177There's a middle ground. HoloEN have been too slow in general.
>>28657575hmm, not convinced entirely, mainly because his voice sounds like fujo repellent
>>28657865If I were a Cover scout, I'd be a little spooked that someone like that would want to join to get close to their oshi. I mean this dude is getting 600k+ views on some of those videos, he wouldn't make those kind of numbers in StarsEN probably everI guess you just go for it anyway though and hope it doesn't blow up into some sort of big yab, the rewards of having a proven star content creator join would be too much
I wonder if the homos are gonna be popu....>>28654967I think they'll be fine....
>>28658255I can agree to that, EN3 needed to happen right about now.
>>28658018She peaked at 4.3k and has been inclining the longer she streamsMy fucking knees haachama, she started at barely 2.5k too just a couple of days agoI really hope she keeps consistent with this, she will easily bring her EOPs back
>>28658255I just want one breakout star from NijiEN to overtake the NA market. NijiEN needs NA left to complete the domination.
>>28658177No one is saying they should accelerate to NijiEN levels, but having only a 10-man roster after 2 years is not enough to build any kind of box, especially when they are already overworked and busy outside of streaming. Mori shouldn't even be streaming rn with how many flights she had to take this month between the states and Japan.
Ame is hosting Chammers on twitch that's why. She's going to be live soon too
Still can't believe HoloJP has triple the fucking ccv of NijiJP and HoloEN doubles NijiEN.
>>28658255I have to think that the plans for EN3 were slightly derailed by Sana's graduation, about a week or two ago would have been pretty perfect
>>28658376HAHAHAHAHAHA! That some funny shit
>>28658255>>28658389Agree with thisFor whatever reason, debut rate in EN is much slower than JP
>>28658389Cover is unfortunately too incompetent to properly support EN.
>>28658376>to complete the domination?
>>28658376Will literally never ever happen. No NijiEN will ever put up Gura numbers. I don't think another Holo can even put up Gura numbers. The EN market has already peaked.
>>28658376need someone to compete with gura so she starts working her ass off holy fuck this lazy bitch is so annoying
>>28658255After myth's success, they should've debuted council within the first 6 months and EN 3 within a year to have enough talents to consolidate the western market. By not doing that they gave up big portions of the EN marketshare to western vtubers after paving the way. StarsEN should've debuted a year ago
>23rd july>niji debut their new wave to eclipse Tempus>Omega release the first 3D debut in retalation on the same slot
Have guys overtaken nijiEN?
>>28658376Not gonna happen when every Niji wave are exactly the same as the previousAll the same old fujo baiting male, loli, shota, gay, etc. Same kind of contents too. Of course not to say this doesn't happen in Holo too but we are talking about Niji now
>>28658555>So she starts working her ass off Gura fucking despises numbers and numberniggersShe wishes she had Petra's ccv
>>28658054this girl looks like the sister from that incest doujin i read the other day...
>>28658461If you're looking at the averages between branches, that's why you get when you have more shitters than stars. There will never be a point in time where NijiJP or NijiEN's averages will square up with HoloJP or HoloEN, just because deadweights like Reimu and Finana will prevent it from happening.if you're talking about peaks, the peaks are more comparable on the EN side, like Ina is almost certainly going to slip to Luca today for cripple gold as he approaches 700k subs because ofc he's doing another endurance stream. Not like it matters anyways because Vox is going to beat both cashing in on fresh debut hype tonight.
>>28658624Yes? The girls became supporting cast almost immediately after Luxiem's debut
>>28658376You cant have a breakout star with me gay, muh lgbt, booba bussy, me sucky sucky yucky, as your whole personality nijifriend
>>28658607>omega>doing anything
>>28658624isn't it 13 males and 13 girls nowwell, i suppose a lot of the males are in the grey area, but still
>>28658376Any aspirants with talent would rather wait and apply for Hololive so expecting Nijisanji to land any star would be close to impossible.
>>28658630lazy whore
>>28658630Funny because Cover seem to DID plan for her to be the lowestMeanwhile it's clear they want Kiara to be the big one initially. Basically all the mistreament of EN came from the fact that Cover did not plan anything for them at the start and never will
>>28658538What numbers? Subs or VODs
30k max for tempus50k max for the female nijien80k max for the male ones
>>28643841Their fandom was full of contrarians and had a "no meme" rule because they didn't want the subreddit to be filled with low quality memes (taking a dig at the holo sub, which was partially true but only during the meme review weekends).They also forced a bunch of talents with zero interest in the EN audience to shill themselves and the entire subreddit was flooded for the first 2 days after they got corporatized, killing any potential new viewer interest in them.iirc there was around 40 liver posts within 48 hours, the front page was ALL liver posts.Only two of them still post on reddit, and one of them stopped bothering with translations as well.And of course once NijiEN (proper) debuted, they started posting memes on the subreddit, officially killing the "no memes" rule. But by then the subreddit was already long dead.
>>28658696Bent over bitch, im going for anal
>>28658624All of them recline hard then what? Another new wave?
>>28658696Fuck off, cuck
>>28658624sonny's design is so fucking bad
>>28658739So their entire identity is being Hololive anti?
>>28658768Fulgur and Uki are worse, mostly because of those belts. Check their full portraits.
>>28658797just like in here lmao
>>28658729How the fuck do you plan for someone to be the lowest
>>28658739Nijisanji management is too incompetent to build a brand. Everything comes off as forced. Hell, even Hoshikawa, the greatest leech vtuber, gave up on EN.
>>28658376Anon, the current batch is literally "pander to THOSE people". They're all yab machines and that will end up alienating large groups of people that don't necessarily vibe with that kind of thing. It's honestly a hot gamble with low odds of success and high chances of controversy.Management best be at the ready with the leash on hand.
>>28658739Like who cares, Reddit doesn't matter in the long run. Twitter is where the majority of activity is at and NijiEN trumps HoloEN on that front.
>>28658624I never noticed how weird Shu and Mysta's arms were.
>>28658851Look at Gura's barebone design and rigging, she also doesn't speak a lick of JapaneseYou can easily tell who they poured the money in
>>28658752Luxiem never reclined because of Noctyx, Vox and Mysta have just been overlapping each other for most of their streams this month. They won't recline because of these new people either just like how Kuzuha doesn't recline from new VTA debuts. It's the new debuts that will struggle to find an audience.
>>28658655vox is gonna get 14k max and then cry about it
>>28658851I'm sure that ESL anon meant "anticipated" she would be the lowest, and I don't know where they're getting that impressionGura was the biggest star of all of the Myth's roommates and it wasn't even close, she was in a different universe of popularity compared to the rest of them. She was already a legit (if niche) e-celeb
>>28658925Kuzuha's SC income did recline tho with the constant overlaps of NijiEN talents.
At least Niji managers are better at advertising their talents
>>28658925>Vox and Mysta have just been overlapping each other for most of their streams this monththey mostly start one hours after each otherthey also peak in the first 30min alwasy
>>28658879LGBT people actually watch streams and support NijiEN anon. They're also 30% of the global population.
>>28658624Wait, those two behind mysta and Ike are males????
>>28659033
what is today gold /#/ bros?
EN3 didn't happen because Omega wasn't satisfied with the talent pool.
>>28658464they might be but no, If starsEN is debuting right now there's no way EN3 will debut within two months either way, that's not how cover rolls
>>28659007The people who donate to Kuzuha and Luxiem are completely different populations of people. Kuzuha follows the NijiJP pattern of only getting huge SC paydays during special events anyways and for weeks his SC income was 0 because he spammed Elden Ring like a mfer.
>>28657929>The issue with HoloEN is there's no boxIs there? It feels like in EN the fanbases are actually way closer than on the JP side.I'd argue that they're actually so close it becomes a problem and that's why overlap hurts them so much, and events with multiple ENs don't attract that many more viewers compared to JP.
>>28659033I don't know about that. Didn't they ostracised most of their prominent lgbt supporters like Finana, Mel, and Mayuyu?
>>28659081tokyo tower
>>28659033And they're also helping with overpopulation, God bless them.
>>28658921Anon, her RM is literally the biggest.
>>28658739Trully a display of nigger behaviour
>>28658624Yugo will never be a man
>>28658797I've said it before, nijiniggers don't watch nijisanji because they like nijisanji, they watch nijisanji becayse it's not hololive
>>28659049Yes, I think they might be getting lower subs than the demon man because a lot of the audience think they are girls.
>>28659087Didn't HoloID and Uproar debut like a week apart? Different language group I guess but stillI know jack shit about past Stars debuts, does the main branch actually give them space usually?
>>28658925Delusion is strong in this one.
foobs 10k with rust...
>>28658739How many Holos still post on Reddit?I think it's only Watame and every few months someone else like Flare makes a post to shill their anniversary or birthday and that's it.
Fuck, Tempus is starting to gaybait now. I guess this is goodbye....So how is the latina?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFjuKhG2Hzconly 1 pov, numbers?
>>28659307>So how is the latina?Isn't the latina a futa?
>>28659228The last stars debut before uproar was way back in 2020 and the only 2020 debut was gen5 in september
>>28658739Can confirm, I'd imagine they saw the effect Hololive members did to the subreddit and wanted to replicate it. Holomembers also Joined the subreddit but it was based on the meme reviews that Coco did. And they joined on a more timed basis, rather than just dumping all of them in one spot.
>>28658884Who cares?
Nijisanji management completely fucked up its EN branch by not properly segmenting it away from JP branch. Now you see former ID and KR members as well as most EN members gunning for JP and CN audience, which has resulted in the decline of most JP members.
>>28659310There will be at least 3 povslike the christmas collab
>>28657865>>28657921>>28658083>>28658316https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/iwvchh/zylbrad_what_are_you_doing_here/https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/ipk1ld/zylbrad_watching_fubukis_latest_stream/
>>28659102My bad, my wording was confusing.The box does exist, it's just so small that I don't even consider it really a box. It's the same 40k (maybe 60k if Gura is involved) people watching streams live. New debuts are needed to bring in new fans/people who fell off before. That's the only way to increase the ceiling that HoloEN has right now. It's hard to even create events to bring about these ceilings because there's not enough Holos to organize events. Like holy fuck they couldn't even schedule a minecraft relay for the ID server despite Bae floating the idea out a month ago because people are too busy.
>>28659304nene? i barely use the reddit anymore tho
>>28659310~30K
>>28659384Holy shit, good find anonYeah it's probably him, that's fucking wild, good job Cover scouts
>>28659304I thought Fubuki and Flare did, but it seems like they mostly stopped.
>>28659384god I hope he's able to put on a different voice because the voice he uses in his videos is fucking cancer
>>28659369Update this shit, holo id been getting 4-5k with rust lately.
>>28659396> because people are too busy.becasue they are
>>28659310Moomers channelFirst 3d buffSana funeral buff35k with a stretch goal of 40k
>>28657929HoloID doesn't really have a box either, or at least the box is as strong as the EN box because you also don't see massive spikes in viewership when one of them ends
>>28659307Making ship names for her and her wife and killing unicorns before debut
Why would a 2M sub guy want to join Holostars? There is no Lando and no Brad.
>>28659551Is she gypsie?
>>28659551Lesbian ships don't kill unicornsMen don't instinctively consider women competition
>>28659381no, mumei said it's only 1 povhttps://youtu.be/DDxusDp_kx8?t=2185
>>28659623Hololive only recruits talented people.
>>28659551Did no one learn from Takamori and Pekomiko?
>>28659542Yeah, I shouldn't have mentioned HoloID because their box is basically Kobo + Moona's audience right now.At least it's better than before when it was just Moona's ceiling.
>>28659623sex
>>28659384Whew that voice if it's him
>>28659384>israel
>>28659623Same reason why gura joined some uncertain foreign branch
>>28659551Lesbian ships don't count. They only make unicorns stronger.
>>28659507Well, they are too busy to streamYou know, the thing that people expect them to do, and not whatever behind the scene thing they do
>>28659692No. They only learnt they brought numbers.
>>28659623Make friends. Be a part of something bigger, with big events and merch and stuff. Chance to talk to your oshi and try to convince her to marry you.
>>28659551Is this another Millie/Enna?
>>28659551Lesbian ships are actually a boon for unicorns because they think they can have a 3some instead.
So based on the debuts so fat, what do you think are the hiring criteria for NijiEN and HoloPro EN (Hololive and Holostars)?
>>28659692NoeFure ... OkaKoro ... ShishiLamy ...
>>28659304Pretty much just Watame. Rest may appear on some special occasion.
>>28659845lesbianships on a mixe wave seems unlikely
>>28659813That's why HoloEN has HoloMyth Cafe in Korea and Hololive Experience at CR Expo.What does NijiEN have aside from who cons?
>>28659813> not whatever behind the scene thing they domeet ups, concerts and music are important
>>28659813The only way to fix that imo is get more (quality) people. We don't really notice Aqua and Ayame's absence anymore because there are more than enough Holos to pick up the slack when someone goes on break. Sometimes I completely forget when Holos like Korone and Kanata go on a 1 week break.On the HoloEN side, when Gura goes on break, there's a huge gaping window during primetime that's wasted.
https://www.twitch.tv/watsonamelia_hololiveename karaoke practice on twitch
>>28659926If you're a woman in a mixed wave who wants to preserve the possibility of getting tons of male gachikois, setting up a female ship ASAP seems like a pretty good strategy actually
>>28659501
>>28660031Gonna get half the peak she would've gotten on youtube for no reason, but at least it's a throwaway stream.
>>28660056Oh no no no, muh inclining Nijisis
>>28660055unless they never interact with them, not happening
>>28660056>blonde only>still above top 32what the fuck, is blond debuff a meme ?
>>28659692Why is Amesame is still going strong despite not doing collabs that often?
>>28660056Where's the proper NijiJP? I thought they've merged it with KR and ID already.
>>28659033Man this thread can still produce some zingers
>>28660171They don't overlap each other like PekoMiko
>>28659551Inb4 this is the next crossick where they break up and never talk to each other again after years of gaybaiting
>>28660056NijiID and KR no longer exists, anon.
> 600+ posts> 140+ IPsis /mag/ the fastest general on the board right now?
are any of the supposed starsEN roomates good at singing
>>28659033What the fuck bro you are gay if you watch stream now?
>>28658389If Mori is not working the bomb around her neck will explode. It’s like Speed.
>>28660281Blue one
>>28654729Most NijiEN fans dont care or know shit about jp. There's barely any significant overlap between the audiences be it english speaking one or not
>>28660056Ooh, nice. I like the various categories with outliers removed and different splits and stuff.
>>28660056Holy shit Pekora alone increases the average of all HoloJP by 1k she's like the general of the 1st army
>>28659933https://twitter.com/animate_cafe/status/1547053620549496833NijiEN gets their cafe collabs too. More often than HoloEN does honestly and it's pretty laughable that Reimu has a cafe collab before anyone in Council.Anycolor does have a long history with doing cafe collabs so it's nothing new. Happens a few times a year for NijiJP.
>>28660277Bless the MAG.
>ame top of the music categorykek
>>28660257I don't believe any yuri pairings after crossick
>>28660258I don't make these, but they still exist as streamers. Some of them at least. Complain at the anon that does if you want something else.
>they debut literally 1 day after starsEN debutThis was fucking dirty, they clearly waited for StarsEN to debut first to announce the dates
>>28660364Kek, that place is empty as fuck
>>28660381IIRC most people just use the Just Chatting category to sing
>it's been almost 3 hoursWhen? How did this happen? I don't remember 3 hours passing...
>>28660388All pairings from Niji were forced/faked. The best pairings come from the fans themselves.
>>28660410Wow holostars level.
>>28660056can we just drop all the "Unbraided/unsharked/minus 1st army/top 32" shit? It was useful back when it was just nijimales and nijifemales but now it's just adding unnecessary clutter
>>28660381Haachama's on top of the valorant one tooHOLI DOMINATION
>>28660381Can she beat Nyanners and her boyfriend?
>>28660056What the shit? The rabbit making such a huge difference in a group of 35 members is wild
>>28660381Herman Li bros....
>>28659384Hopefully he privates his stuff and also maybe tries to stay away from leaning into any BFE or any of the sorts. Seems like he's been in a long standing relationship. His channel has his name in it and the GF has stuff with him dating back to 2+ years.
>>28659551>killing unicornsYou don't know what a unicorn is.
>>28660410Time to pay another wave of bots to make em look good.
Maybe Starsfag and Holofags should laugh too soon? It's going to be long before you beat Nijisanji. We own this industry.
>>28660619eigo jouzu
>>28660277It's them tits and bulges
>>28660536well she probably beat them before mouse raid
>>28660619Keep practicing your English, you'll get there some day!
>>28660514nah, it's good bait deterrent, stops all the morons that try the "the rest of hololive would be nothing without peko" or some shit
>>28660509That's a couple of hours vs 2 days. If StarsEN does good, nijis steal some of those new viewers with the debut a day later If StarsEN doesn't do good, nijis kill their momentum by oversaturating the market with 6 new debuts
>>28660167People have numberrot. Pretty much any Holo except maybe the low tier IDs would be in the top 100 on Twitch. For all the below 10k graduate them nonsense here Niji has 2-3 10k average streamers
>>28660167>Mel, Polka, Choco, Aki, Nene, FlareSeems about right for being debuffed, but Hololive is strong enough that they're still strong performers even if they don't compare well to their peers.
>>28660619people will actually bite this bait and I don't know if it's because they're stupid or because they're bored
>>28660697>nijis kill their momentum by oversaturating the market with 6 new debutniji lose more with this
>>28660665imagine if she raids haachama
>>28660619You aint even own it in china
>>28660619nice effort, sis
>>28660677And what about your English, ESL fuck? You should go back to your Let's Go book, imbecilic fool.
>>28660167even the bottom of hololive is in the top percentile of streamers anon, only a place like this calls them a debuff
>>28660412Too bad we don't have actual japs here. Would be interesting to see how many people actually go, considering it got 38k likes and all, which is way more than the HoloEN korean cafe announcement.https://twitter.com/ANIPLUS_SHOP/status/1547491116248756224
>>28660767
>>28660167No, no. Blondes are a debuff. The lot of them just happen to have inclined recently (especially Aki), but are mostly lower tier holos compared to, say the blue women.
>>28659692Fuck you PekoMiko is real. They are destined to be together even before Pekora is born.
Nyanners and mouse at their peak had 14kHoloEN with one peaking at 4.3k and the other one still not peaking but at 4.8k I guess? They're at 10k, do you think ame can incline enough to catch up?
>>28660822I hope we get photos, but I have psychic powers so I'll spoil it for you: The Myth cafe will be a fucking madhouse with a big line
>>28660697This is actually bad marketing for Nijisanji.It basically encourages Niji fans to watch for StarsEN since they go first.A day later, HoloEN and StarsEN will most likely have some program to overlap those new NijiEN gen debuts.
Wild miko appeared
>>28660410Yeah, about as dirty as conveniently moving collabs and talk shows to overlap basically every other NijiEN wave debut lolSucks that the EN Stars have to suffer for it though
>>28660822Only 100 people came to OffKai with NijiEN despite the announcement of NijiEN getting a lot of likes as well.HoloEN managed to attract 1000 people to their panel with less likes.
>>28661090Nijis employ Twitter warriors to boost engagements.
>>28660996New numbers, haachama peaked at 5k and Amelia is at 6k I think, 11k...3k left
>>28661090For all the money Anycolor apparently has you'd think they'd throw some toward getting I dunno an anime expo panel or something
>>28661032If the StarsEN perform well on debut Niji will be basically shooting themselves in the foot. Especially since Niji releases new members all the time. It's a rare event for Holo and their first EN males.
>>28661152why would they, none of their audience is in NA
>>28661032Yes, a 70k announcement tweet in a few hours and all of them getting close to 100k subs pre-debut is bad marketing.Would you consider it a bad marketing move if HoloEN debuted EN3 a day after NijiEN's debut? Because that's the difference between StarsEN and NijiEN.
>>28661214even the girls ? like elira, pomu and the others ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB6nh6UjGLIOriginal song numbers
>>28660740>>28661032They don't care, it's zerg tactics they can use thanks to ACCELERATE
Another wave another delusional>hololive is dying NijiEN is taking over any day nowDid ridinculous, knockdicks and voltaire teach you fags nothing?
If male niji can fujobait with ASMR, why can't female niji coombait with ASMR?
>>28661260>30k>clsoe to 100k predebut
>>28661260Sooner or later, HoloEN viewers will have to watch NijiEN. They are already on the news in Taiwan, UK and Japan already.
>>28661360It's been 6 hours anon. They debut in 4 days.
>>28661260Going earlier whether intentional or not will only be advantageous to them.Just look at what those other corpos did during HoloFes. It brought them so many eyes cause they went earlier.
https://youtu.be/lB6nh6UjGLIhttps://youtu.be/lB6nh6UjGLIhttps://youtu.be/lB6nh6UjGLINUMBERCHADS IT'S ORIGINAL SONG TIME
>>28661282Only 100 people came at Offkai. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence for them to invest in getting them to other cons.
>>28661425and you think they will grow at the same rate afetr the first day?
>>28661212>>28661212>>28661212nijiniggers are getting cocky again...
>>28661305GET IN NUMBERCHADS
>>28661476because offkai is a ridiculously tiny con in the middle of nowhere
>>28660514It makes Nijiniggers know their place and that they are inferior to Hololive.
>>28660410V-vengeance for that one time Ame and Gura streamed the mega event of uh...a podcast! On a saturday!
>>28661480No, if they did they would have like 300k predebut.
>>28661480Even if they slow down to 10k a day, they'll be at around 80k subs predebut and pass 100k during their debuts.
>>28661503Lmao, if homoEN has 3views it is already considered a success.
JUST PUT IT ON FUCKING STEAM YOU BACKWARDS FUCKS
>>28661601>10k a daynow you are delusional
>>28661476>small volunteer vtuber-only con hosted in a hotel>not a huge con linked to the anime industry with vtubers just tagging along
>>28661411>Someday Holo will payThanks for the laugh.
>>28661260This mindset shows lack of foresight by the Niji management. If they were so confident with their brand then they should've went for the kill and either overlap them directly or go first and them overlap with them later.
Surprise 3D from Chigu?https://youtu.be/esuL2RzT8OY
>>28661628How hard is it to get games on Steam anyhow?
>>28661778wanna go again bitch?
>>28661778Owakon
>>28661780really easy
>>28661466Speaking of originals
Here a question can the top guy in this wave catch up to Alban the current most subbed Noctix member and can the top girl in this wave catch up to Nina the current most subbed Niji En girl before Holo EN 3 debuts
So even on twitch, holoEN>vshojo?What would happen if hololive be Me serious about taking over twitch?
>>28661780https://store.steampowered.com/app/495520/Ping_Pong_League/
>>28661780you pay 100 dollars and submit your game for review, that's it
>>28661930I have no hope for Nijisanji to be honest. HoloID is growing much faster than NijiEN.
>>28661919is still getting views unstuckbut yeah it was a guerrilla release.
>>28661930>before Holo EN 3 debutsso they have time till summer next year? yeah they can
>>28661919Nice, finally a fair 1vs1 battle with Mantra Hujan. If the song performed similar to her last OG than she might actually lost again.
>>28661628They will. Miko already said it.>>28661780Just pay $100.
>>28661930With the purple cunny being Senzawa, they can easily mog HoloEN
>>28661919Oof, how's the EP looking on Itunes though?
>>28661930noctyx subgain slowed so much i dont think they will
>>28662001>HoloID is growing much faster than NijiEN.What's your hope levels for HoloEN then considering NijiEN is growing faster in subs than HoloEN?Even Kaela is going to pass Sana very soon after her graduation.
>>28661464Only in specific cases. The male EN vtuber market is already filled with nijiEN.Tempus marketing and teasers for the past days only served to create hype for a new EN male debut, which nijisanji can capitalize by debuting a day later a mixed gen, so both female and male fans will go check the debutsStarsEN also had some controversy among the hologirl fans, since some of them didn't want the homos to collab with their oshi. Nijisanji then debuts a mixed gen showing how their talents can collab freely between gendersThey also announce a group song, something StarsEN don't haveAnd finally, most viewers are numberfags so if they see StarsEN doing decent numbers during their debuts, they are going to watch nijiEN debuts to beat those numbers, while holo viewers will probably not watch the starsEN debutsOf course, everything will depend on how talented they are, but StarsEN will get affected by wave 6 debuting right after them so people can compare their debuts
>>28661930>catch up to AlbanProbably>catch up to NinaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What's the cut off for the twitch tally?
>30. ShionALL ME
>>28660056>>28659501Are these threads the only one keeping track of all this autism data, or are these all taken from the Japanese statistic threads (assuming they exist)
>>28661778It's not a 3D debut, she wont get much with that.
>>28660171anon, ame cooked a steak dinner for gura on her birthday and then they sang love songs to each other for two hours
>>28662093where's my 1M subs
>>28662020>guerrilla releaseBut it's on her schedule.
>>28662093Kaela has been grinding for it hardcore, dont you disrespect her by comparing her efforts next to Sana
>>28662098Reminds me of Gokisei vs Selejo
>>28662153That particular chart is made and tracked by anon here. But their source is other data that is tracked by people with just as much vtuber autismo.
>>28661584ALL OUT WAR
>>28662191but didnt put the MV frame until like 1hr before release.
Bae's doing very very good
Why is Ame doing karaoke on twitch?
>>28661503Lol. Twitter followers as metric.>Hololive needs to announce gen 3 or they'll get mogged.To be fair I agree with that one. No one really wanted homos, they're not gonna succeed. They will not bring much of new audience and they might alienate existing one. EN3 is needed now more than ever.
>>28662197No disrespect, just saying dissing NijiEN's sub growth isn't a good idea right now because it's one stat that most of the boys are beating HoloEN in right now.idek how they're getting more subs daily than Council despite getting 1/4th the numbers.
>>28662093The thing is HoloEN and HoloID target different markets so any growth from them is seen as positive for Hololive.NijiEN targets ID, KR, JP, and VirtuaReal markets. They are basically cannibalising their existing markets.
>>28661780Easy, but then you give up 30% of the revenue
sanner on the telly
I'm confused looking at the new niji designs. How many of them are dudes? I count..1.
>>28662358>They are basically cannibalising their existing marketsjust like council did to myth?
>>28662053She has 1.2m subs, why would she go corporate?
>>28662343becasue their "fans" are not youtube users, at least not regularly.
okay this is all just mori songs what the fuck
Kek, /mag/ is already turning on Magni already, they want to change into that black-haired guy from NijiEN.It's over for StarsEN
>>28662221Yes and gokisei won since they belonged to a company that had more popular female vtubers while the other one was in manjisanji
>>28661584Or that time Gura moved forward her meme review streams 1-2 days in order to overlap a new wave debut
>>28660697The assumptions you make will be correct if Wave6 does much better than Tempus at debut. Which is almost impossible when Holo always has very impressive debuts. They will definitely be compared, I believe Wave6 will have better numbers but it won't affect StarsEn as much as people think
>>28662343>idek how they're getting more subs daily than Council despite getting 1/4th the numbers.Oh you know. Especially Vox that will always, no matter what, grow by the same amount each day.
holy shitto really isnt good. i liked her older stuff and didnt really like unalive and ouroboros because it really didnt fit her but going back to "her roots" with holy shitto really didnt work. mera mera outperforming when its months older not surprising
>>28662358Subs are a non-zero sum game. Kuzuha isn't losing subs when Vox gains subs.Not to mention, they're clearly not targeting the same audiences, since NijiJP subgrowth is fucking dead outside of Salome. All of Luxiem is going to reach 1 mil faster than Mito gets to 1 mil at this rate.
>>28662098Hololive doesn't really have any headspace in the world of fans interested in male vtubers so I can only see any eventual comparisons between them and NijiEN as favorable to them. They have nothing to lose compared to the Niji males and as long as they don't fuck up their debuts they'll be better off from riding the wave. The 3 new girls are probably fucked though. Either that or some other Niji female will finally get choked out of any lingering relevancy.
>>28661907>>28661980>>28661993>>28662054>>28662366Illustrative. Thanks, anons.
>>28662471mera mera is actually good
>>28661305Mori's song made me physically nauseous. You fuckers brainwashed me into hating her.
>>28662475It's the nijischizo intern that has been shitting the general all day
>>28662487Yeah man, imagine doing a big stream on the weekend. I swear you nijiniggers exist in a world where that shit was diabolical and on par with this lmao
>>28662471Mori has more orisongs than Gens from 1 to 3 put together and if not for Watame, you could probably also add 4 and that still would be true
>>28662475seems more like one schizo
>>28662098>The male EN vtuber market is already filled with nijiEN.I think that's a big assumption to make when every data we have right now points to NijiEN not being able to cater western market.I haven't heard of any controversies save for some that came from antis. The fact that StarsEN got so many fan arts and memes of them show that this could be the male vtubers that the west have been craving for for a long time.
>>28660381You know, maybe joining HoloEN IS a legitimate way for music streamers to success Just look at Luna on JP side
haven't bought a game on steam since 2015 still won't buy my games from there
>>28662343>4-5k new subs a day>declining viewer numbersIt's like magic.
>>28662575yeah but the song list doesn't become a watame's greatest hit list now did it?In fact I don't think a single watame song made the top 40
>>286623923. Purple-yellow hair one is classic feminine male.Blue hair is trap.
>>28662493> Which is almost impossible when Holo always has very impressive debutsHolos =/= homosID3 got 60k while Uproar got 10k
>>28662493>Which is almost impossible when Holo always has very impressive debuts.Were you there when Uproar barely got 10k for their debuts and one of them peaked at 8k? That's the expectations for StarsEN. The audience for Hololive and Holostars is very different.
>>28662475You will never be a Maggot, faggot
JWU and nijiEN decided that competing with homoEN was a worthwhile thing to do, were they itching to put something against hololive and couldn't wait anymore?
>>28662531take a break anon, the new one ain't even bad
Watson plateauing at 6200~ range
>>286623922, one of them (Aster) is unknown so far but assumed dude
>>28658376LMAO you mean gura ?
>>28662475>>28662554>>28662578what the fuck are you talking about?
>>28662664It's like an all out war
>>28662664Their Youtube channels were created at the beginning of this month, so it's not like they rushed it.
>>28662687homobeggars
>>28662531Weak beta male
>>28661975They would have to push it really hard and stream much more frequently than they do to make it work.It's pretty difficult to move your viewers from one platform to another, just look at Ninja, but it might help that Twitch is much more popular than Youtube outside Japan.If they made it work though, they would be at the top of Twitch for sure.Twitch doesn't have the viewer verification issues that Youtube does so their live viewers would be much higher than they are right now.
>>28662614Neither did AZKi. Can't account for poor taste.
lots of originals and deadbeats actually like to play her songs unlike say IRyS and IRyStocrats
>>28662438Myth and Council belong to the same branch catering the same market. Are you retarded, anon?
>>28662711nijiseethe
>>28662710>it's not like they rushed it
>>28662710But nijisanji clearly chose the date after seeing the tempus debut dates. 22-23 to 24-25 that's too much of a coincidence
Not sure if it is zylbrad but looking at his vod comments, people seem to like that kind of voice. The comments seem very female-ish too.
>>28662726Not a deadbeat but they're actually good?
damn, stellar stellar still soaring, power of memes is amazing
>Q is still at the topGura really is a mega buff
>>28662487I don't think Gura knows any of the Nijis to be fair.
>>2866160110k / dayretarded
INDOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING
kobokeks stay winning...
>>28662471To be fair she does put out a lot of songs as compared to literally everybody elseHer newer songs except Mera Mera suck ass though
KOBOKEKS WE DID IT AGAIN
the fucks the Zylbrad rrat coming from suddenly i used to watch that guy play Overwatch ages ago
>>28662779Brad is not in StarsEN anon, he only likes Nijisanji.
>>28662748 i don't watch m*les why would i watch mansanji? or even talk about vtweeters.
>>28662803WAIT WHAT IT'S NEARING 5 MILLION ALREADY ????
>>28662717most of azki's songs were released way back in the day though, and her newer songs aren't great hits like some of her old songs are. I kinda wish she'd go back to her black days but she seemed to have dropped that aspect of her songs entirely
>>28662687There has been 1 nijischizo camping /mag/ since it was created. He would spam for hours about how hololive is paying interns to shill starsEN here and telling people to just watch nijisanji
jesasQ and stellar stellar still getting 550k+ is pretty crazy too
>>28659304Flare and Watame are the most frequent.Nene and Friend still post once in a blue moon.
>>28662817every single song that dropped with the EP today is better than Mera Mera tho?
>>28662586Luna's music doesn't do well wtf, she's probably one of the weakest JPs for music. Tons of NijiJPs do better than Luna in the music department.
>>28662777NijiEN debuts are always on Saturday or Sunday
>>28662835then why are you are nijinigger?
>>28662780
>>28662664I mean their existence seems to be to counter Hololive instead of building their own brand.
>>28662820Some anon put together some circumstantial evidence in this thread and last threadIt's only a possibility, but I bet it's true. If I could put a little money on it I totally would.
Is Kobo outpacing all of Myth to 2 million minus Gura? And Myth had a pandemic + Guras sidekicks buff. Absolutely insane.
>>28662854yeah but that guy isn't spamming anything right now, actually I see nothing about nijisanji in the mag thread at the moment
>>2866287325th is monday
>>28662726Hey I listen to IRyS songs regularlyBut I buy them and play it on an app rather than stream it
>>28662845it was the frog that made AZKi BLaCK
>>28662880keep begging
>>28662780Not a deadbeat, it is Calli's selling point, got the EP earlier today and whatever Universal studios is doing to her music is definitely making it much better.
Good News! Gura is finally streaming again tomorrow!Bad News! It's a fucking member's only stream!
>>28662909>to 2 millionshe's outpacing literally anyone to 2m, including salome
>>28662942nijiseethe
>>28662780That's what the consistent numbers shows even with her old songs, unlike Irys said by that anon
>>28662880>why are you are
>>28662917I'm talking Saturday or Sunday NA time. This new wave is debuting Sunday NA time. Same time as Luxiem did, in fact.
>>28662820Basically from what we know now>Hasn't made a video in 2 months>Great at APEX>Lives in Australia>Tweet has him going to bed when it's Australian night time>RM twitter feed has him RT'ing vtuber(s)>Found hololive subreddit posts of him lurking in hololive streamsIt seems pretty strong now that he's in
NijiID fans selling the "NIJI bday merch" pack as they only given VP merch even when they are already merged in to the main Niji. The VP wasn't even shilled by the niji accounts on twitter but by the most mentioned resident ex-NijiID 2-view herehttps://twitter.com/RiksaDhirendra/status/1549589923132411907https://twitter.com/njid_birthday/status/1549605019690754048
>>28662956ogey
>>28658624There's a shota in new nijimale??
>>28662933cool, Ina stills has more listeners on Spotify than IRyS and she only has one original, IRyStocrats in general dont listen to IRyS
>>28662820His apex settings are different, can't be him.
>>28663025anon, isn't it a fanmade thing?
>>28662903>their existence seems to be to counter Hololive instead of building their own brand.Why do you retards keep repeating this shit when there's barely any overlap between audiences?Like Luxiem is 80% of NijiEN's numbers and they appeal to a complete separate audience in a different country than Hololive. There's less than 1% correlation in chatters between Luxiem and HoloEN and most of their audience is women that don't watch Holos.What would be "building their own brand" if that doesn't count?
>>28659304Just Watame>posts her latest giri waru>replies with the playlist>refuses to elaborate>leaves>repeat next week
>>28662664They've been mad since Gokisei mogged the fuck out of Selejo.
Anon Luca Z again
Nijisanji management is really incompetent when it comes to producing songs.They don't have talents like Kobo who can build hype without resorting to Youtube ads.In the long run, Niji would be hard-strapped with money for other projects like making 3Ds and stuff.
>>28663076Read the first 3 words again anon
>>28662903I'd argue "anti-Hololive" can be treated as a branding, lol
>>28663025>Voice pack>fan merchThis is just sad as fuck
>>28662788It helps that Stellar Stellar is a titular song and is very memorableThe power of Taku Inoue
>>28658655You're not making any sense, you're comparing Ina's normal Minecraft stream to some celebration stream and new gen hype stream....
>>28663025I hope "Fan Merch" is actually merch for fans rather than merch made by their fans
>>28663025The art is so low quality lmao
>>28663076imagine being a fucking NijiID fan rumao
>>28663104Ina 12,561Luca Z 12,624 and GOLDDDDDDDkek hololive gonna die
>>28661778> Niji 3D reveal> Birthdaycan someone explain? idk what "Niji 3D" means, is it those black cloak thingeys?
>>28663128It's always is. See how everyone try to take down holo during the kshart+vshojo shit.It just exposes holo more into the western market.
>>28663154We're talking about cripple gold. That's how it's counted. No one says it's unfair when Holos win golds with 3D lives, that's just how the horserace goes.
>>28663115If the new Tubtacular (or whatever that new gen is) song gets played as ads, some anon with no adblock or youtube premium let us know and take some screenshotsI always think it's so funny how they do those huge campaigns for their orisongs, but I've had premium so the only one I actually witnessed directly was DCL
>>28662714Haachama and Amelia's peaks summed together is almost as good as nyanners and mouse's, without accounting any raids of courseAnd this is holoEN, i imagine jp would be even better
>>28663025>fan merchthe absolute state of this black company
Is the JP market nearly saturated at this point? The new Niji JP debuts look kinda... uglyCCV per VOD:Watari Hibari>59,640 (Debut)>7,947 (Thief Simulator)>6,714 (Phasmophobia)>5,736 (Chatting)>4,048 (Thief Simulator)Akira Shikinagi>63,495 (Debut)>14,784 (Introduction)>9,190 (Phasmophobia)>10,274 (Needy Girls in Love)Fura Kanato>46,379 (Debut)>6,382 (Valorant)>2,641 (Phasmophobia)>1,914 (Mario Party Superstars)Seraph Dazzledragon>62,807 (Debut)>6,090 (First Broadcast)>6,541 (Nier Automata)>4,210 (Phasmophobia collab)>2,148 (Nier Automata)
>>28663128Like how Pepsi's only brand identity is "Not-Coke"
>>28663155viichan looks cute. Does she do eigo?
>>28663088>there's barely any overlap between audiencesMaybe between the males and hololive, but no on can be retarded enough to not see that the girls before they were delegated to second degree citizens were there solely to capture the hololive audience.
>>28663155>only 50k with gamblingjuicer bros...
>>28663025This is so fucking sad.I'm not sure whether it's from me for following vtubers for more than 3 years or that I have spent so much time on this hobby and I couldn't recognize this fucking Niji girl.
>>28663158It is merch made by fans. the official merch they got was the VP
>>28663025This is just sad, this is the first post in this thread in months that makes me legitimately pity a chuuba
>>28663025The absolute state of nijisanji
>>28662880> why are you are
>>28663266yes, unless you manage to go viral like salami, it's extremely saturated because it has a low ceiling, the biggest jp channels are ants in subs compared to other markets
With latina, cunny and lesbian, NijiEN girls might aim for a different crowd now that HoloEN has the fat and unemployed male viewers.NijiEN is going to be big with yuppies
>>28663019That's... such a stretch.
>>28663349nijiseethe
Z cripple gold get!
>>28663266woof
>>28663155xQc should neck himself.
>>28663155xQc should fucking stop playing gambling games
>>28662820I watched the videos on his channel, there's no way he plays with 1800 DPI like Axel says he does
>>28663356>fat yes>maleyes>unemployednope, wfh software developers
>>28663115>Nijisanji management is really incompetent when it comes to producing songs.You can look at the numbers and realize how retarded this statement is.Jazz on the cock is still getting 110k+ views a day after 3 weeks dude. It got 1 million views last week. That's better than any Holo original right now.https://playboard.co/en/video/D66eHXt19dYhttps://www.nijiuta.com/?week=-1>without resorting to Youtube ads.See if you can find an ad for it.
>>28663266Welcome to Nijisanji.
>>28663088Men don't watch males, what a shocking revelation!
So who are Tempus roommates so far?
>>28662803INDOCHADS, PLEASE STOPMY KNEES ARE BENDING ON THEIR OWN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>28663025so... this isn't "birthday voice" pack but just shilling their old stuff again on the occasion?
If haachama raided Amelia she would've gotten 10k...
Imagine if Hololive announces auditions for ID4, or an open audition for HoloID. How many NijiIDs will try to jump ship?
>>28663380Nijis being the kings of Zs makes sense when they put me to sleep.
>>28663266>Seraph DazzledragonThat sounds like 12 yo cringe naming. Just like Pomu Rainpuff
>>28663088You sound like a massive Niji apologist shill. Fuck off.
Pre-primetime /news/ update for 20-07-2022 (all times are in JST)> From Yesterday : Hololive x Paselabo collaboration merch announced (https://twitter.com/paselabo/status/1549320855179902976).).> From Yesterday : Nijisanji collaboration streams and merch with Central League Baseball announced (https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1549276089402331136).).> From Yesterday : 3 Original songs from Sanbaka (NijiJP) to be featured in Rhythm game "Chuunithm" from 21st July to 31st August (https://twitter.com/chunithm/status/1549227713567031296).).> From Yesterday : Asumi Sena from VSPO celebrated her 2nd Anniversary (https://youtu.be/idJ56yedyZg).). Anniversary merch is on sale, and she has released a new Cover (https://youtu.be/brIlmZWq7CI).).> Nekota Tsuna makes her debut on the VSPO main channel program "VSPO Wonderland" today at 7:50pm (https://twitter.com/Vspo77/status/1549334443763986432, https://youtu.be/Eggfdrv501c).).> Hololive Mahjong tournament to be held on 29th July via Sega's NET Mahjong game (https://www.hololive-mj.jp/).). Participants will be announced soon.> Nijisanji EN announces Wave 6 ILUNA with 6 members (https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1549544615635628033).).Kyo Kaneko : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsb-1aJgiJXJH2feV-zlZRwMaria Marionette : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwaS8_S7kMiKA3izlTWHbQgAster Arcadia : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpzxZW5kghGnO5TmAFJQAVwAia Amare : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN68LoM3khS4gdBMiWJO8WARen Zotto : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKu59gTZ_rdEmerdx5rV4YgScarle Yonaguni : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFgXWZOUZA2oYHNr6qDmsTQ> Spice Love (Aqua, Subaru, Pekora) will appear as the opening act for AniSummer 2022 on 26th August (https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1549582549986734081).).> Suisei's 1st Solo Live sales ranked #1 in Animate Blu-ray/DVD sales ranking (https://twitter.com/rome0504/status/1549517880219566080).).> Matsuri announcement at 6pm today (https://youtu.be/UL9eJh0R0T4).).> Chigusa holding a 3D live for her birthday at 7pm (https://youtu.be/esuL2RzT8OY).). "Niji 3D unveiling" also planned.Previous : >>28593844
>>28663025Someone post this on the catalog onegai
>>28663529None of the current ones would make it in.
>>28663529>StarsID
>>28663529Why should they? NijiID family is all they need. Being in HoloID will ruin them.
>>28663529>How many NijiIDs will try to jump ship?They might be absolute shitters, but i think they are way too close to each other to abandon each other, except maybe if someone risks being out on the street.
>>28658655NijiJP top 32 - 6,376HololiveJP - 11,239NijiEN ( boys only)-4,997HoloEn -9,877
>>28663240It would be harder for JP to bring more of their fans over though Miko seems to have done a pretty decent job.EN and JP would also be on even footing without the Youtube algorithm removing viewers.With those factors in mind, EN would probably largely do better than all but the largest JPs and Gura would probably be the largest of all.
>>28663593>"boohoo go away you're saying I don't want to hear"This is what you sound like. Just answer me. How the fuck is that not building their own brand?
>>28663529I don't see why cover would hire certified failures.
>>28662803I KNEEL
>>28663365It's hardly a stretch. Axel posted some hardcore Apex stats and his YT is literally full of 200k+ view APEX videos. And again:https://twitter.com/axelsyrios/status/1549411960323973120?s=20&t=Be2CRxl_d5D0TULVkvEX1A>Goes to bed at Aussie night timehttps://twitter.com/axelsyrios/status/1549559449689686016?s=20&t=Be2CRxl_d5D0TULVkvEX1A>Wakes up in the morning Aussie time
>>28663681Because Holofags are afraid we use the box strat to beat them. The Niji brand has grown from being niche to the biggest in the world. If we continue, we will slowly overshadow Hololive.
>>28662803>>28662819damn brat
>>28663074Ok this fucking /mag/ thread is going too far now. JANNIEEEEEEEEESSSSS
>>28663611it's already there
>>28663763I wish that i didn't have to see that.
>>28662803This song numbers will go down once she release her new OG song but only if it's as good as this one
>>28662098I mean HomoEN have nothing to lose, if they can't compete with NijiEN that's fine. Cover never got lucky with male chuubas so pretty sure those dude all aware that when they signed the contract.
>>28663529>from a 2view shitter to a 4viewI'd jump in a heartbeat
>>28663763Kusa
>>28663763This dude is going to get memed to legendary status by the time he debuts
>>28663471I just want a broshi man. Someone I can hang out with after I blow a load during my oshis stream. Because I feel like she is judging me while nagging me to death by playing games terribly.
>>28663763kek
>>28663738Zylbrad doesn't play with1800 DPI, and apparently Axel says he does
>>28663625Windah Basudara.
>>28663763That thread is a madhouseAm I crazy for thinking that's a bullish sign for Purple Boi
>>28663495Huh you're right. It is old VP so the main niji branch really didn't give them anything for their birthday. It really seems that their just waiting for them to submit their graduation.
>>28659384Has he commented anything on Aqua's Apex streams?
>>28663380Don't worry, the Z won't count towards the EN tally. I'll take his pre-Z peak.
>>28663482Magni https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GnE6vR2fbE
>>28663838all chat just get spam with sus
>>28663627because nijisanji doesn't even care enough about them to give them proper merch
>>28663763>pay expensive youtube ads and shills on twitter, reddit and 4chan>lose in the meme war against 4chan fags doing it for free
>>28663627Wasn’t that what ended up killing NijiID in first place? Hana was the rising star of ID but she was too considerate of other IDs to the point she kept on self sabotaging herself.
>>28663354Salome showed many red flags for unnatural views and sub growth so I wouldn't really factor her into this.
>>28663848The whole NijiID is in the "banishment room". I don't know if they've realized it yet.
>>28663809Why is it that Nijisanji so good at scouting booth mae and female talents? They did it with Kuzuha, then Vox and then Salome.
>>28663876Bullshit
>>28663919Who gives a fuck about vt when YT, reddit and Twitter are full of NijiEN?
>>28663939> 3/200 talents
>>28663987That's why they go begging at the hololive subreddit?
Here is the comparison for Ridonkulous and Voltaction first few streams
>>28663960Almost 80% confirmed, just need to tweet to theanimeman and he pretty much interact with all the ax con buddies he met on twitter.
>>2866404025% success rate
>>28663876I'm sold. Do I post my balls here or what
sorry fbk 20k is for grown ups
>>28663919I'm sure the 140 IPs in /mag/ will make StarsEN a bigger hit than Wave6, just ignore the youtube and twitter numbers.Stop comparing them for ffs, it's not fair to the homos.
>>28663960Someone this morning shared a screenshot of Lando liking a Holostars fan art on Twitter. When I checked the url, it said the tweet doesn't exist. A few people vouched for its authenticity, but I don't know for sure
>>28663848>>28663936I sincerely have no respect for how Nijisanji does business as a companyThe Hololive approach to this is just so clearly better and less cruel. Cutting your lowest-performers off from even basic merch is like picking favorites among your children or something, just bad opticsAnd yeah, you'll say, >Well Nijisanji has so fucking many talents, they can't take care of them allWell then they shouldn't have brought them on!
LANDO IS IN NIJIEN6 FOR FUCK'S SAKE
>>28664103She's teasing me so much, I can't fucking cum
>>28664040>from 65k to 2k in 5 streams
>>28664138What are you so mad about?
>>28664138Well now that you've written this for the fifth time, but this time in all caps, I believe it now.
>>28663625Milyhya and Miawaug
>>28664108>ignore the youtube and twitter numbers>ignore the numbers
>>28664138you ogey sis?
>>28663853What site do people use to check that?
>>28664138Which one? Because we hear the voices of all 6 wave 6 members
>>28664138Which one?
>>28663625Obet
>>28664209It's sarcasm. Wave6 is mogging the fuck out of StarsEN in pre-debut numbers.
>>28664143edge for the king
/mag/ mindbroke schizo again by just doing their things
>>28664209Let's have numbers then.Balls out for HolostarsEN: 2Balls out for Niji Wave 6: 0
>>28663763So why can't you guys to this when you bet your balls huh?
>>28664143Friend always does it for me.
>>28664147His fault for playing NierNumbers POISON
>>28664147Everyone drops hard from their debut. Most don't even hit half of what they got for their debut.This is especially true in Nijisanji which is why Salome's CCV was literally unbelievable.No one has ever managed to beat their debut numbers the very next stream, let alone for several weeks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB6nh6UjGLI10. Mori and Suisei - Capsule (257,695)9. Chloe - Jinsei Reset Button Pochi w (264,770)8. Korone - Doggy God's Street (274,657)7. Suisei - GHOST (277,508)6. Mori - RIP (277,758)5. Gura - REFLECT (304,704)4. Mori and AmaLee - Villain Vibes (360,410)3. Mori and Gura - Q (562,779)2. Suisei - Stellar Stellar (579,655)1. Kobo - Mantra Hujan (796,737)
>>28664040Looks like only black hair dude will be successful
>>28664468Honestly you need a bigger sample size and it can't be during Koshien month. Koshien just absorbs everything around it
>>28664413>Everyone drops hard from their debut.No shit, but that is a really hard drop even for niji's garbage standards.
>>28664325I can't believe that's all it takes to mindbreak them...
>NijiEN counter StarEN with wave6 Holo counter wave6 with EN3 which kill all Tempus and NijiEN
>>28663763qrd? it got deleted
>>28664040Wonder if you can find a formula for predicting future average stream numbers based solely off debut numbers and the 2 streams right after
>>28664557It was a photo of DEEZ NUTS
>>28664530en3 is not until september
>>28664577good thing i was late then
>>28664587I just can't buy they're gonna wait that long, how do you figure?Gotta be August
>>28664557Literally #DickOutforDezmond2 dicks have been posted so far, seem 1 is even oiled up
>>28664587Withe talents behind NijiEN, do you think HoloEN3 has any chance? Keep dreaming.
>>28664422Kobo too strongAlso I’m surprised Chloe’s song made it to the top 10
>>28664559You can't because you have an outlier like Salami.
>>28664640Who again?
>>28664519no really, it happens to everyone, even Laplus went from 160k to 20k ish in two weeks. That's why everyone cried foul when salomi maintained her debut number for two straight weeks
>>28664634Reminds me of forsen poster.
>>28664634>Oiled upYeah i'm never touching that thread again
>>28664557They've posted a pair of tits and two dicks now..
>>28664626There was a leak that predicted literally everything coming to hololive this summer, from homoEN to holosummer and more. There was no trace of EN3 there.
>>28664559Nope. Leos from Edengumi had a strong debut and first few streams
>>28664557/mag/, in the last 24 hours has 2 dicks and 1 boobs posted.
>>28664040Does anyone still have Edengumi numbers
>>28663220I know but you're talking about peaks in general between holoen and nijien males, since you said aside from median ccv peaks
>>28664746I am going to miss these crazy threads when he debut and the hype die down
>>28664664Lack of streams recently due to ghost rape has left her fanbase starvedstinky please come back soon
>>28664716Just don't open spoiler image and catbox links
>>28664758My bad, I meant daily peaks, hence it being somewhat of a horserace for cripple gold on days when Gura doesn't stream.
>>28664714Forsen only got horsedicks.
Just random thoughts but as a nousagi I find it weird that Pekora stopped posting her orisong on YT completelyDo you guys think she know it will flop and so don't want to see the number if it get posted?
The latina is already going viral with the spic community already, that's fast.
FOOBS STOP EDGING ME
>>28664735What are you talking about, the website links?Because they didn't make a new page just for Council so there's no reason to assume they would do it for EN3.Holostars EN is a completely new branch so it makes sense they got one.
>>28664799What's the reason behind people calling her stinky and ask her to go to bath?
>>28664871will they stay ?
>>28664746>1 boobs postedWut….
>>28664871Reasonable. She''s like the first Vtuber directly appeals to them
>>28664907Chloe's most iconic trait is she doesn't shower
>>28664325#dicksoutformagI find it amazing that Hololive is going to luck into the biggest vtubing sensation once again due to the pure passion of Hololive fans and the strength of the brand.MAGCHAD is building up so much momentum right now it's kind of unreal.
>>286649131 pair
>>28664913You missed it?
>>28664799>people still believe in ghost in the year of our lord 2022
>>28664951He better cash all that hype or its unironically over for the homos.
I surmise /mag/ used as coming out of the closet for gay anon
COME ON FUBUKI!
>>28664951This is what happens when you have a fanbase that is actually passionate about your product. Unlike with NijiEN who have a bunch of Chinese people trying to act like fans because of some weird grudge they have with Hololive.Again, Hololive fans are passionate about Hololive. Nijisanji fans just watch Nijisanji because it isn't Hololive. There is no passion there.
>>28664913https://i.4cdn.org/vt/1658294661954273.jpg
>>28664871She's actually leading in twitter followers, beating out even the dude. They're all going to be past 100k followers in the next few days anyways pre-debut.
>>28664951Only on 4chan thoughBut I will have as much fun as I can while the hype still last
>>28665067they rub each other balls literally, so yeah
>>28665105mid fr fr no cap
>>28665105After all this time some femanon finally post her boobs.
>>28664951>MAGCHAD is building up so much momentum right now it's kind of unreal.He's still the lowest subbed of all the EN Stars.
As someone who watched lando, magni just need to do some meme reddit reviews like his lectures. He is the perfect memelord you can ask for.
>>28664422https://streamable.com/hukpo4Kobo's orisong is actually Indonesia's national anthem now. You got niggas with AK-47s rocking out to it ffs
Fuck i don't know how to use spoiler, newfag btw
>>28664951/Mag/ is the funniest shit on this fucking board since forever
>>28663763You see this, /#/? Lots of you talk high and mighty about cutting off your balls while /mag/chads proudly display them out of love. You should all be ashamed.
>>28662904Zylbrad has quite a unique voice and laugh as far as i remember, so i think it would be quite easy to tell if axel is or isnt him
Was labeling them as Holostar a mistake?
>>28665206> just need to do some meme reddit reviews like his lecturesSounds like Aruran so he's screwed.
>>28665213why are they toting guns around in a concert?
>>28664871Was this not the case when Reimu debuted?
>>28665252Tempus is almost passing Uproar on all numerical metrics so they're already exceeding expectations. Just don't think they'll match NijiEN6.
>>28665280what, you don't bring your AR in a concert?
>>28664871Unless she starts actively pandering to them in spanish and uses Latinx humor I don't see her getting anywhere after like a month when they get tired of her. She better start singing reggaeton in her karaoke streams, the trashier the better.
>>28665252There was basically no alternative except making them their own, third branch which would be a slap in the face to the JP stars. Anyway the ENs are probably going to boost the stars brand, I dunno what JP stars debuts usually get but I'd bet these will be the biggest Stars debuts ever
>>28661152Anon, the expo supposed to paid the guest for appereances. It would be really sad if they do the opposite just to make themselves seems relevant
So /nijien/ is pointing out that the black-haired guy might be Lando due to the way he tweets. I think it's more believable than Magni since NijiEN has more future for males than Holostars.
>>28665327Only in backward countries like America and muslim countries we have that.
>people taking “virality” assertions at face value coming from the same lad that throws stupid shit like “Luxiem is taking over the North America market”
>>28665309Difference would be Reimu is unlewdable, whereas Scarle literally looks latinx. NijiEN is also much bigger now than when Reimu debuted.
reached a new peak but still not the fabled 20k.
>>28665325That's where my concern at, I was so confident before Niji announced their 6th wave
>>28665325>NijiEN6Literally nobody cares about this group. They picked the worst time to announce the new wave. Right in the middle of everybody being swept up in the hype of /mag/apalooza. NijiEN6 never stood a chance.
>>28665206>>28665264I wonder what manner of unholines could come up from those two coming together (assuming that the HomoEN is teacher dude).
>>28664746link the boobs
>>28665412Nah, we already know who Ren is. Lando is not in NijiEN.
>>28665336>LatinxAre you that much of a shitposter that you just drop bait terms as second nature now?
>>28665252Not labeling them as Holostars would basically create massive anger in fanbase
>>28665213This is fucking awesome
>>28665384>JP stars debuts usually getLatest gen peaked at 10k. Lowest was 8k. All dropped to 3view in a week. The expectations for StarsEN are so so low even if you ignore the NijiEN debuts right on their tail.
>>28665213If this is real and not edited than this is actually insane. Kobo is legit an entire cultural phenomenon.
>>28665457Archive reps. They were already linked here.
>>28665336>LatinxI just want her to say that just for the shitfest that will ensue from it.
>>28665483Si senorx lo sientos muchisimas mi amigx latinx
>>28665280Labeling them as Hololive will cause unnecessary drama.
>>28665543>no nipplescowards
>>28665445and she got saved by matsuri/ 20k reached lmao
>>28665512It's real. Do an archive rep. There's some different vids posted here 2 days ago
>>28665336>LatinxIf she says this word, then she's not real latina.
>>28665492i cant believe cover choose reputation over money
>>28665213Nothing will stop the blue women
>>28663025Damn.. as an indon, actually feel sad for them while holoIDs are entering their golden age
>>28665336The moment she shows the word latinX, she loses al latam viewers. They absolutely hate it
>>28665508Oh yeah that should be pretty easy to smoke. StarsEN will btfo those numbers.
>>28665632You have a million way to make moneyBut only 1 reputation
>>28665454o7
>>28665650NijiEN can easily bring NijiID up from this low. NijiEN has a global audience to count on.
>>28665454There are no breaks on the /mag/apalooza train. The NijiEN6 debuts will be swallowed by the all consuming /mag/ hype.
>>28665677imo if they can get Luxiem's debut numbers (~20k), it'll already be a huge win. The boys just need to get 2k medians to be the kings of Holostars lol.
>>28665280Just a replica
>>28665708yeah so, how is reza now ? or i dunno amicia the girl who collabed with shu and drain touch master petra gurin ?
funny thread.
>>28663529Unironically they really are too "muh familly unity" to jump ship..
>>28660410Numbers after 1h30mins
>>28665708>NijiEN can easily bring NijiID up from this lowThey wanted the indog audience not the chinks
>>28665336>latinxDoesn't spics hate that term?
>>28665252She can now mobilize her entire resistance army if yagoo didn't give her horse
>>28665560Eh, at most she'd get latinx people shitposting about it. Does anybody really care about it beyond it being retarded?>>28665626But but my latinx (2nd generation) friend John Mendez said if I don't use this word I'm being incredibly intolerant!>>28665662Not like they would stay either way honestly, you'd need to actively pander to them or provide them drama for them to stay, neither of which is particularly attractive. Also, anon this is NijiEN you're talking about. The chances of her showing latinx are pretty high.
>>28665708>>28665774Return to his normal number.
>>28663224I kinda miss having ads. Is how I found Suzuka Stella and I also got to see d Holofes ads.I'm not turning off Premium though.
So as a tourist I kind of get the style of Nijifag posting in these thread. They basically throw around a bunch of "If", "Can" and "Would" to make Niji seem bigger and powerful than it is?
>>28665336>latinxqrd?
>>28665800With all their soul, especially when they realised this word was created by the Burger.
>>28665789None of them have passed the Mag line
>>28665807meant for this>>28665213
Oh wow, I just saw NijiEN6 announcement on the front page of Reddit
>>28665854Woke but with Latin speaking country
>>28665835Classic pre-debut hype from them
>>28660410>>28665252
>>28665800>>28665855They hate it to the point that it always trends on Twitter always for the "wrong" reasons: that spics hate it and will correct your ass for it.
>>28665854Anon are you serious? It means spic, but gender neutral. How can you be this intolerant.
It looks like Nijisanji will be the one to charge into ES market. Why is it taking so much time for Holo to do the same. I don't mind them going with males but leaving an entire market free for competitors seems like a stupid decision especially when that market is huge
>>28665854Burger term for sake of diversity and inclusiveness (i.e male, female, other 41%).
>>28665825Your friend Mendez is a faggot then. Latinx is some made up garbage. We don't use that ever
>>28659849checked out /nijien/ and looked in the archives, looks like they got a bunch of fleshtubers this time, including some guy who does omegle react videos.the chuuni girl looks cute and can sing apparently, she's definitely going to be the star.
>>28665325>Just don't think they'll match NijiEN6.Is there a new meme that I didn't know about?When did Nijisanji become the leader of anything?
>>28665384>but I'd bet these will be the biggest Stars debuts everNot hard to achieve, Uproar only got 10k and before that their last debuts were in early 2020 when Vtubing was much smaller.Something like 20k seems reasonable looking at their sub growth. Although with the usual HoloEN number shenanigans who knows.
>>28665986Nimu was the only huge ES vtuber and her style was so different from Holos that they probably never bothered. They're supposed to speaking in EN most of the time anyways.>Why is it taking so much time for Holo to do the sameKek what is taking Cover so long to release EN3? That should be a priority before HoloES.
>>28665800Yes, they see it as an insult to their language since spanish words have male, female and plural (using either male or female) forms and none of them uses X for the sake of it.
>>28666084Have you not seen past Holostars numbers? They're lucky to get 1k CCV. Niji Wave 6 absolutely should do better, otherwise they're a failure
>>28666084Dicks, literally. As much I hate to admit, they have a strong roster of male vtubers
Ame's singing the numbers national anthem
>>28665899>>28665967>>28666011rumao
>>28665986with the fabled ES market in ninji's tight grip will they finally have a female chuuba with 20k median ?
>>28664117Yagoo is a huge saviorfag and doesn't agree with that mentality either. He expressed as much during his interview with Kai Harada : https://www.4gamer.net/games/628/G062811/20220418043/index_2.html> Mr. Harada : How many talents belong to your agency as of now?> Mr. Tanigo : Counting all the branches, there's 68 talents. But they're separated by gender and region.> Mr. Harada : Do you expect to naturally increase that number in the future?> Mr. Tanigo : That would depend on the needs of our fans. We don't want to increase it unnecessarily after all...> Mr. Harada : Really now. If it was me, I think I'd increase it to 100 or 200 people maybe. "If we increase the number of talents, we would obviously get more fans interested in them!", and towards the end we might have 800 people or so. At least that's my line of thinking.> Mr. Tanigo : That's one place where this industry is different from Gaming, I would say. We are entrusted with the lives of our talents after all. "Simply increasing the number would not be enough", is our current philosophy.
>>28666137b-but finanan and and petra!
>>28666060It looks like Nijisanji is serious about bringing talented people into the mix. I don't see how HoloEN3 can top this since Lando, Jordan and Wolfy is in the group.
Kobo is shilling starsEN so hard. No doubt she’s gonna play with them once their collab ban is over at this point
>>28666084Have you been living under a rock? Noctyx all got 50-60k debuts. If you think StarsEN will even get half of that, you're very optimistic. Half of the Holostars are 3views.
erm Fubuking 20k btw
>>28666060>Girl in manjisanji>Bring a starGood one anon. Good one.
>>28664716There are boobs too anon! Come join us!
>>28665986Niji charged into ID and KR first and got jack shit from it. EN market should still be the priority anyway, Reimu got jack shit from the ES market and Millie got jack shit from the flips.
>>28666029Anon, could you not tell I was being sarcastic and shitposting. Who the fuck would think a 2nd generation immigrant called John Mendez is an authorative figure on what to call spics.>>28665986ES market is absolutely cancer. Pandering to it is unironically terrible and they'll drop you the moment they're bored of you. It's also filled to the brim with underage retards and people who act like underage retards and it's toxic as fuck. Plus pandering to spics doesn't really work when you're an idol, it's mutually exclusive.
>>28666188>Yagoo is a huge saviorfagthats why he'll lose the war
>>28664664That song is really good. I fucking hope she'll make a full version someday
>>28666208She just wants to play some valorant
>>28666084This is Niji vs Holostars, not Niji vs Hololive.If Niji gets mogged by Holostars of all things then they're a complete joke.
>>28664716That tits posted femanon requested though...
>>28666344What war?
>>28666188There's a reason Yagoo is yab proof in this board despite all the shitty decision from cover.
>>28666188That logic makes sense when you already have 60 people like in HoloJP. It doesn't make sense when you have a branch of 11 people like HoloEN after 2 years.
>>28666427The all out one
>>28666344Being a saviorfag only works if he can manage a company. Yagoo has shown he can't even run Cover.
>>28666306Yes. IF YOU THINK SEA IS BAD, OH BOY THEY HAVE NOTHING ON HOW MADHOUSE THE ES MARKET CAN GET.
>>28666363Oh she will later with ollie and uproar
>>28666060>she's definitely going to be the star>NijiEN>SHE being a star>SHEYou haven't been paying attention to NijiEN for the last year have you? Females are DoA in that group.
>>28665067Hey! We femagnon! Our OP is one of them
>>28666208She literally played valorant with uproar 2 days ago
>>28665729>There are no breaks on the /mag/apalooza trainI can see where this is going and it’ll be a glorious return to the old days of Miko and Fubuki meme energy
>>28666235>>28666456The guy hires so far are Sweeto(?), a babuniku, and a react streamer (the shota). Only Sweeto looks like any good.Feel free to grudge post me but the rosemi clone and the latina will get good numbers.
>>28665986We barely pander to the flips and they already turned this board to shits. Imagined pander to the Spics, it would be 10x worse. Coco pandered to them once, and the subreddit was unusable for days.
>>2866620810 bucks she's going to do a sibling thing with Regis just because of similar color scheme.If Regis isn't completely incompetent, then it'll work out because Kobo is great at RP collabs.
>>28666441ThisThe JP branch got multiple debuts in the span of a year (from gen 1 to gen 3 and gamers). You need a base talent pool to get ahold of the needs of the viewers of a certain market and EN is clearly lacking with only 11 members and most of them not taking streaming seriously
>>28666538We have the spics and the flips with us, what does HoloEN even have?
>>28666188Tanigo, I k-kneel!
>>28666525>will get good numbersNo they won't. In the very best case scenario they will hit Pomu/Selen numbers but even those numbers suck in the grand scheme of things.
>>28666584Judging from the niji hires past the first few waves, I don't think any of them would fit in Hololive. I genuinely think the talent pool is just that shit.