3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
Previous: >>28633542
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.ml/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
Reminder to never trust posts coming from the Lie:Verse. If it has no screencap or cannot be verified, assume that it is a Nijinigger trying to shit up the thread.Nerver trust Nijiliars
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>62,890: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>45,802: Suisei (Hololive)>39,934: Salome (Nijisanji)>39,429: Pekora (Hololive)>38,090: Tamaki (NoriPro)>36,815: Tsukasa (Indie)>34,416: Pekora (Hololive)>32,780: Miko (Hololive)>32,595: Maimoto (Nijisanji)>26,350: Laplus (Hololive)>25,603: Mumei (Hololive)>18,748: Patra (774 Inc.)>17,910: Towa (Hololive)>16,491: Luca (Nijisanji)>15,433: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)>14,835: Uki (Nijisanji)>14,666: Iroha (Hololive)>14,205: Lize (Nijisanji)>13,186: Reid (Neo Porte)>12,513: Koyori (Hololive)>12,276: Laplus (Hololive)>12,209: Matsuri (Hololive)>11,156: Kronii (Hololive)>10,914: Koyori (Hololive)>10,281: Akira (Nijisanji)>10,257: Sana (Hololive)
>>28645432huh never knew twitter bot is a thing
>>28645630>JULY 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien>PER COMPANY10x: Hololive8x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER5x: Pekora2x: Ibrahim1x: AZKi, Kuzuha, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Tsukasa>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY128x: Hololive61x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER23x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Salome13x: Kuzuha, Miko9x: Subaru6x: Hal5x: Kanata, Marine4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Suisei, Toya3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Nijisanji, Okayu2x: Ange, Fuwa, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka, Towa, Ibrahim1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa,, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
should have set these streames with time mori.
>>28645695Twitter is infamous for bots, it's almost certainly easier and more profitable to bot there than youtube or twitch.
>>28645695is the reason Musk backed away from buying twitter.twitter engament can be so deciving sometimes.
>>28645403kind likes ads on reddit and facebook?
Why are Nijifans such shameless Twitter clout chasers? They descend on every Niji as soon as they show up and mass follow and like every Tweet regardless of content and then never watch a single stream, but defend and shill them like its their fucking job in non-niji dominated spaces
>>28645507Final /news/ roundup for 19-07-2022>>28593844 Additional news>>28594312 >>28594801 >>28595176 Recent clip numbers>>28580043 >>28580098 >>28580362 >>28580412
>>28645507>>28645546>THAT artistDidn't fucking know we got that kind of 2hu fan here
>>28645695https://www.fiverr.com/gigs/twitter-bot
>>28645834>topic>Twitter is THE social media for Japanese
So Elon was right that twitter is infested by bots?
>>28645815Way more expensive. Every single Twitter interaction on Promoted Tweets can cost a dollar, and every day of Promoted Trending costs like 20k dollars. Nijisanji has surely spent millions of dollars on their Topic
>>28645507True average of CCV, 20 or more streams, July 1 to July 14>>28395887 LIST OF 100K+ STREAMS>>28429118 >>28429188 Council 30 days true average>>28552826 :: Fauna>>28553802 :: Mumei>>28554518 :: Kronii>>28554951 :: Bae>>28555400 (Cross-thread) :: Sana>>28582197 (Cross-thread)
>>28645807>>28645815interesting things to know since I rarely use twitter. I start using it recently to see pochimama tweet
>>28645695Twitter bots are definitely a thing, but thinking nijifans are making bots to pump up NijiEN is pretty delusional.Reality is probably because women engage far more often than men on vtuber content. NijiEN girls have existed for months before Luxiem and gotten shit Twitter numbers. Even now, they only get good Twitter numbers on tweets relating to males, which points to women being the difference maker. Just look at Elira's Twitter.https://twitter.com/EliraPendora/status/1549237009817952261?t=RuY0YB8LDjOH-_iVqP8aYw&s=19
>>28645972He would know considering his replies are always infested with them
>>28645972No shit. He did represent proofs
Why the fuck is /mag/ still going strong despite all odds stacking against them? >>28635518I though that general would die out in one day, and the guy hasn't even debuted yet
>>28646040Nigger stop being an apologist for Botsanji at this point. It has been extensively prove that Nijisanji's numbers are shallow as a fucking puddle, they're thin as air
Mori is shilling Tempus on stream.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbhsiVS_W4k
>>28646086He keeps being funny, which keeps it going.
>>28646086even tough we have some fujos here and there.they dont represent a big majority ontheir own geenral outside a speicifc time of the day.
>>28645972He's seen Twitter's own data. Of course he knows.
>>28646144
>>28646086God, I want to support StarsEN in this horse race just by the sheer fact that they are actually funny.
>>28645815Don't trust that retard. You can't buy Twitter topics, they're generated by machine learning. No one is paying for the "popular illustrations" or "music" Twitter topics. Promoted tweets and trends are a completely separate thing and those are literally ads for shitty mobile games or crypto.
>>28646009>https://www.webfx.com/social-media/pricing/how-much-does-it-cost-to-advertise-on-twitter/>The cost to promote a tweet ranges from $0.50 to $2.00 for each first action. The average falls around $1.35 each time someone clicks, replies, or retweets your tweet.>The typical cost of running a promoted accounts advertising campaign costs falls between $2-4 per follower.>Promoted trends cost $200,000 a day. For a small to mid-size business, this probably isn’t a feasible option. Promotional trends are more suitable for larger companies with a bigger social media marketing budget.
>>28646144she is gonna reditrect into her MV most likely.should have done it on JP time tough.
Funny thread
>>28646040sorry, but the moment botting exist any "engagement" is just a coping mechanism
>>28646144they should trot out all of council to shill them if they were smart
>>28646086His Twitter game is strong.
>>28646254why doesn't hololive have one then?
>>28646086They honestly think that the ideal guy (Lando) is him. It'll fall apart once they realize it's not.
>>28646323His cope is that it's some kind of RNG bullshit, he says this anytime you explain what the fuck is happening with NijiTwitter. They did buy a topic, that's just a fact, they didn't get it for free
>>28646311Muman already died.
>>28646086They are comprised of people who>Hate fujo>Bionicle autists>Sonic autists>Ironic postersThey hate women and will not let women take their Mag away
>>28646229>>28646311all the cool guys looks like bossu...needs more shota porn with sam
>>28646323Thousand dollar question that we have been asking for ages. Twitter hates Holos anyways, seeing how long it takes for Holos to get verified.
>>28646086Do not underestimate the power of memes. So many western twitch streamers grew big because of memes. Forsen..
>>28646323The empress of /#/ has her own topic
>>28645695Twitter is full of bots and twitter doesn't even acknowledge the shit. It's the reason why Elon Musk dropped out of buying twitter.
>>28646414Lando in NijiEN would be hilarious, but I think it's already proven that one NijiEN6 guy is Lando
>>28646423Clearly you can find one source about how much a Twitter topic costs then considering there are so many of them and someone is paying for them right?>Inb4 a million dollars
Okay I checked out the debuts. Here's my predictionsThe chuuni loli will be the breakout star. Good model, nice voice, potential japanese speaker and artist, no red flags from her twitter activity so far.Demon guy, purple haired guy, don't know much about them but seem safe so far. Could be hits, could be flops, hard to tell.Busty latina will be carried by her model, already seems like an upgraded reimu (who is probably on suicide watch rn). Going for day 1 coombaiting is meh, we'll see where she goes with that since the girls in NijiEN that lean into that haven't done so well.The shota seems annoying and bratty with a shitty sense of humor. Could have a potential fanbase of shotacons but I don't have high hopes for him.Glasses girl seems insufferable, will easily be the runt of this gen.
>>28646515>dropped outI don't believe it. It's just a ruse to buy out Twitter at a lower price.
>>28646435Magni will be the best brotuber in the West. Mark my words.t.Magachad
>>28646551>that one NijiEN6 guy is Landodidnt they say it was sweeto?
>>28646551????
>>28646551Which one?
>Tempus Pre-Illuna HATE! HATE! HATE!>Tempus Post-Illuna announcement"WTF I LOVE TEMPUS!" This has been very entertaining to watch
>>28646551This post is confusing
>>28646551Baffling post.
>>28646551No? It was Sweeto who's probably a niji dude. The rrat is that Lando is magni
>>28646683HOLOBOARD
>>28646551anon there are screenshots of him liking Tempus art on his personal, 3 in fact, 80% sure hes in holoEN
>sana graduating brings HoloEN down to 11-1=10>4+6=10 chuubas are debuting this weekendI will not take my meds
>>28646323Suisei has one kek
>>28646683The downfall of Nijimales comes first
>>28646435based
>NijiEN will do their usual ads on vtuber streams/videos>Sana having a shitload of collabs before she graduates means that a lot of people will see the NijiEN debut ad>same with the HolostarsEN debuts, they'll get the NijiEN ad tooGoddamn, Anycolor's going for the throat this time.
>>28646683So much fucking holocope
>>28646496Coco does too
>>28646683This was all my plan to get the entire board to watch male vtubers
>>28646414Lol they won'tThey literally asked what if he isn't Lando. Most of them say they will follow him regardless
>>28646935Sasuga sister...
I mean, when you trend on Twitter you start to generate some buzz, so Nijisanji is definitely getting a huge boost from this. I could definitely see one of them being a break-out success that finally lets Niji EN start reliably competing with Holo EN.
>>28646940Even if he isn't Lando, he's been genuinely funny so far which is good enough for me
>>28646683This place already warming up to Tempura since yesterday though?
>>28647007Lol, nice one.
Play Dice! is less than 40k from 3M.
>>28646734Apparently he deleted them, so if that's the case, that's a pretty huge flag.
Why do faggots think Lando is funny? Jesus Christ what’s going on.
>>28647007Legitimately, Nijiniggers will never succeed. Their business model is just self defeating
>>28647111reddit board
>>28647111We have a sense of humor.
>>28647007Didn't the last NijiJP VTA group get like 160k likes and over a million views on the debut announcement?They've blown up on Twitter multiple times over, it's nothing new. I see them getting bigger numbers than Noctyx, but not 90-100k.
Regis is about to pass 40k, Magni the lowest is about to pass 36k.
>>28646894my oshi
>>28647111I think its more of a case of relief at 1/4 homos not being a pile of shit like Nijimales
>>28647111shills, /#/ is being raided since yesterday
>>28647111No I think Magni is funny, not Lando
>>28646790that's trending, not topic right?
>>28647238>since yesterdaySince 6 months ago or more, by different groups each time
>>28647220fake faggot
>>28646683I'm starting to like them guy when chi-alucard and handguy started to post on twitterstill I full of hopium for the bootleg castlevania character ends up being Randon
>>28647238Kys nijinigger, we will never take your side
If Gura blows up because of Ride On Time, what should Tempus do to cement a meme moment?
>>28647352i mean theyre 39.9k and 35.9k respectively. theyll tick over soon enough.
The competition is fujobaiting manwhores, twitch zoomers, and coombaiting. The bar is very low for actually entertaining EN male vtubers
>>28647382Show his own Sonic OC on stream
>>28647220That's a large number for pre-debut Holostars.Even with Myth, they only got 60k subscribers in their debut.
>>28647202>WeReddit humor and “XD quirky explanations” meme shit ain’t funny, just bottom barrel. However iLuna is a steaming pile of shit so it’s a lose lose Situation.
>>28647220>Magni the lowest is about to pass 36k.They will all see the light on Magni soon.
>>28647311The "Hoshimachi Suisei" part is the topic.
>>28647440You don't have a sense of humor.
>>28647111meant to reply with >>28647415
Wait, are Lando and Randon different people?
>>28646683Holy revisionist
>>28645807>>28646515that's his excuse, but not a reason, bootlickers. he had all the data way in advance
Amalee's original song with Calli is over 1M views now.It is a good number for her or bad?
>>28647539Yes. Lando was some dude who did "class" style videos on weeb shit from what I can tell, and Randon was a guy who had an orc vtuber avatar
>>28647539Randon is the orc. He retired in MayLando is the dude who explain weeb culture like a professor
>>28647214look at them now..3 views soon..seriously this niji managements are inhumane
UMG actually fucking told Mori to shill her song with fucking C-ManWhy
>>28647539Yes. Randon was a company man Orc chuuba, Lando was a comedy fleshtuber
>>28647420>Show his own Sonic OC on streamThat would be perfect. How to do it without doxxing himself? Or should he even care?
>>28647360I'm a holofag and you will never convince me stars is a good idea. go back to your general and suck them off there along with the garbage nijien fujos
>>28647484my old brain still don't understand, thanks for the explanation tho
C-MAN 6.9k DORRRRRRRYYYYAAAAAAAAAA
>>28647111I don't, but so far Wave 6 looks even worse.
>>28647614What do their Twitter's look like. How many Likes per Tweet do they have
Mori out here single handedly carrying Tempus
>>28647555>Even have his own RabiHoly based /e7g/saint Epic7RtarankchampionbronzemasterGOD, owner of the Toilet of /vg/
>>28647214What I mean is their CCV after their debut. I could legitimately see one or two of them consistently hitting 12-15k ccv once they've gotten over their debut buff. I really doubt Nijisanji is using THAT many bots to like Tweets, watch channels, etc, it ends up being way too obvious at some point if it were true. Wave 6 is realistically generating a decent amount of hype. I'm really not trying to inflame anyone, I think it's definitely a possibility that they get a strong streamer, especially if the Wolfypichu rrat is real.
>>28647649Literally just add more hands to it and then pretend like it's completely different
>>28647614Not this wave, the female wave before. This one was kind of a flop on Twitter, but got better actual debut numbers.
>>28647653i'm sorry for your oshi because will interact with male
>>28647614I mean, it's still better than starsJP.
>>28647649How the fuck would a Sonic OC dox you
>>28647728Not surprised if she ends up making a cover with the boys
>>28647616im more worried they just gave her the MV and had to dp a guerrilla to promote it.the MV better be fucking godly.
>>28647756No way. They will all be sub-1k streamers, and you are stupid for ever imagining for even a second it will be anything else
>>28647820He's a retard or a newfag that thinks that doing something similar to what you did in your PL means doxxing.
>>28647649the drawing he did but with sonic face
>>28647583>>28647584>>28647635Oh that orc vtuber is Randon. So he is on Stars EN now?
>>28647756>one or two of them consistently hitting 12-15k ccv once they've gotten over their debut buff.The problem with this prediction is that no one in NijiEN or HoloEN except Gura gets these numbers. I refuse to believe any of these Nijis in wave 6 are stronger than Vox and Mysta and they don't get 12-15k consistently.
>>28647728Is Mori the only EN who interacts with them on Twitter?
>>28647440so pee pee poo poo i love sucking cock my pussy is squirting is more humorous for you then
>>28647962probably, some people think he is Vesper Noir
Okay, the fact that Tempus being bros might not be that bad, considering Mori's shilling seems to attract some attention to Tempus.
>>28647728Mori is building his own reverse harem
>>28647728>Calli transitioning from hated vtuber to HomoEN's tombiy friendI can see it. Mori seems to like hanging out with boys more
>all new nijis already at 60k twitter followersthis is what happens when your coworkers actually care about you
>>28647614Akira guy is doing ok though and yeah others are declining.
>>28647756That would require china moving from Vox to one of them which I don't see happening
>>28648031Why? He could be in wave 6
>Guerilla>Barely any wait on stream frame>Manages to have 100% like to ccv in 25 minutesIt hurts….
>>28647962Not confirmed yet. He retired on May as I said. He could very well be in Niji if the time gap mean anything
>>28647966Yeah, I don't know where the actual fuck Bae and Ame are. Especially Bae. I think Bae is just Roberusexual.
>>28648113Did other niji interact with iluna already?
Explain this
>>28646144>Illuna announced>Tempus shill stream right after nice timing
Regis posted a voice reveal on Twitter....without any voiceIs he a shitposter?
last hourly update ill do getting late here.Niji6 22-24k after 4 Hours. Will likely overtake Tempus before a day even takes place but honestly im not even surprised holostars was never a strong brand, but that also doesnt detract from Tempus being very strong subscriberwise predebut compared to UPROAR which was about 20k right before they debut'd
>>28648113More like good advertisingA nice looking model are good for initial numbers but after that it depend on content and personalityThat's why I never take debut number seriously
>>28646894Is he doxxing himself?
>>28648167They were all over them already from like the first minute, much like how Holos would be over EN3. Hololive and Holostars will always have a pretty weird relationship.
>>28648131go listen to the Wave 6 voices then go Listen to some Randon vod. You can probably tell if he is there or not. We dont have Voices for tempus however so we cant be sure for them.
>>28648235they're multi streaming with the existing mc collabthose don't count on the live ccv
>>28648257You got bamboozledImagine thinking he will actually do that. Also I expected Rick Roll but no rick roll, in a way, I was bamboozled TWICE
Suisei dethroned Lovelive?
>>28648319>EN3.tempus it's a different branch they are HomosEN1
>>28646311This is the only collab I'll allow.
>>28648259The debut will be the final Clash. Then we will see the truth
>>28648113They look way netter than noctyx and luxiem despite the shitty voices. Pretty models help a lot. Probably not going to hold out post debut if their interactions on twitter are any indication
>>28648113More like Niji and their Twitter shenanigan.
>>28648403I always admire Suisei talent at PR. She's super good advertising herselfAll the blue women can learn a thing or 2 from each other honestly
>>28648403The Comet takes no prisoners
>only 7k wathcing calli premierman what happened to that Mv? why make it a guerrilla premier?
https://youtu.be/UL9eJh0R0T4Matsuri graduation most likely just something about her birthday which is in a few days
>>28648319>They were all over them already from like the first minutelink?
>>28648113>>28648270IT'S FUCKING BOTS YOU RETARDS
>>28648530Yeah, they sound boring like Rosemi and Petra. Prepare for disappointment
>>28648259They will have better twitter followers than Myth and worse debut CCV than Noctyx
>https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1549574889975136256Oh shit, the HoloMyth cafe will take place in 4 of the biggest Korean cities? That's ambitious of Cover.
>>28648539>>28648616>botsschizo take
>>28646435anon, there's a bunch of fujo in that thread.not every fujo like luxiem and some fujo simply love funny anime boy
>>28648609chama not gonna show up again. knocking rushia out was just the start of the war.
>>28648259How is Tempus compared to Luxiem/Noctis?
>>28648706Imma be real with you chief, I only know Seoul and Busan
>>28648530They don't look better. You people are so braindead, their designs are generic trash art
So is it better to have voiced trailer like NijiEN6 or hide their voice until debut like Tempus? I'm new and this is my first time following a corpo debut
>>28648403Im@sbros...
>>28646086
>>28648706This "news" was old anon.
>>28648785>not knowing Pyongyang
>>28648824Considering how god fucking awful their voices always sound in the trailers, a quiet one is better
>>28648824 Depends if the voices are good or not. My impression of the trailer is that they are not.
>>28648372>spoilerI am glad I was not the only one...
>>28648706The cafe reached out to Cover, not the other way around.
>>28648706>Dajeon, GwangjuDaqiong, Guangzhou?
>>28648715I'm not talking about bots though. Nijisanji always has stronger Twitter numbers than Hololive, that's a fact. It just didn't always translate to another number, that's also a fact.>>28648706Probably on the Korean's cafe side not Cover.
>>28648738Bigger than either
>>28648824Hide voice is better. Because it will generate hype. Meanwhile if you look at wave6 4 of them are already DOA and only the model and personality could save them
>>28648471I meant EN3. Most of HoloEN isn't interacting with Tempest because they're Holostars.>>28648611You can click on any of their tweets, but here's one.https://twitter.com/Mysta_Rias/status/1549546734031982592
>Tempus going the comedian routeOnly talentless people do that shit... why can't they be professional?
>>28648816The last 2 males waves were worse and more generic.
>>28648867That's from the based Korea tho, not this one
>>28649015>Only talentless people do that shit
Comparing Tempus with NijiEN6, how are the tweets from the members?
>>28649015
>>28649015you mean being gay?
>>28648616You can just look at their followershttps://twitter.com/MariaMari0nette/followersdoesn't seem like bots to me
>>28648824Hide it. Most voiced trailers are terrible. Just look at Myth's trailer for example.
>>28648706HOLOKR ONEGAI
>>28648824I think if you include voices at least use good voice clips. I don't know what they were thinking there.
>>28649015"Professional" in the EN sphere nowadays is virtual signaling with whatever the hell is trending that monthI'd rather them be 4 retards doing dumb shits together like early YT
>>28649086You're fucking blind. At least Luxium had some kind of design sense behind it. This new wave has no personality at all, it could be any random OC off Danbooru, and you would see more originality
>>28648738this was the day of Noctyx debut i believe and they had 5-6 days to build up subs and were culled multiple times though.
Have you talked about this already?https://youtu.be/UL9eJh0R0T4What is she doing?
>>28649093Tempus: Cringe, but funnyILuna: Coomer and LGBT baiting with sex jokes
>>28649093Quality-wise, NijiEN6's tweets are pretty insufferable, but numbers wise, they're blowing Tempus out of the water, as expected.There are more retweets of the NijiEN6 announcement than likes on the Tempus reveals. (Likes are almost doubled)
>>28648988>4 of them are already DOAHow are 4 of them DOA already? They're girls in NijiEN?
>>28648403OH NO NO NO NO Bushimosis what happened!!!
>>28649213Birthday
>>28649213Anon does it hurt you to scroll up and thread through the thread?
>>28649208>Mvnah noctyx didnt have any meannigful cull.
Actually factually unironically seriously earnestly wholeheartedly genuinely truthfully I believe she is the Gura killer.
>>28649015agree, sex workers are better than them
>>28649093Engagement? Iluna seems to catch everyone's attentionShitposting? HomoEN win
>>28649302You have doomed her
>>28649302And you just cursed her
>>28649253Mixed Debut means that everyone suffers, the entire gen is already giga debuffed outside of Twitter engagement
>>28649302Is she funny?
>>28649322That's just Vox the groomer
>>28649302You mean Rosemi killer?
>>28649093Look at this and tell me it's not funny
This is an example of a topic on TwitterHololive has to share the topic "Virtual YouTubers" with everyone else
>>28649302Actually factually unironically seriously earnestly wholeheartedly genuinely truthfully I believe you're a retarded nigger who needs to stop.
https://twitter.com/magnidezmond/status/1549606912399839232?s=20&t=K5IUS1NlfJyhgqm1aZQpxwFlexing his drawing ability. Also it seem Axel is the bully victim of the group so far
I just want Tempus to be Achievement Hunters or The Creature. Let me have my 2010s back
>>28649302Gura Killer number 596979896695944949595949477668599
>>28649147The voiced version of the myth trailer came out after they debut'd i think or the same day they debutd at least. There was a voiceless one before they debuted 100%
>>28649158HoloES first. We have more fans
>>28649302If it's Wolfychu... who knows...
>>28649302Salome beat her to it
>>28649302Anon... Shut up. Every FUCKING time someone name a new "Gura Killer" the persons only incline in the beggining... After they fall into irrelevance
>>28649374No
>>28648859LMAOThis dude is a walking meme if tempura go the vcomedian route they may just have a chance.
>>28649201Agree to disagree fujosis. I don't think either are great, I just find the boys that terrible.
>>28649405Kek
>>28649382Holy shit, they're actually being bros instead of coombaiting? Am I wrong about HoloStarsEN?
>>28649382>Shibainu meme in the year of our lord 2022Kek
>>28649396Maybe Hololive should pay Twitter to add the topic, then
>>28649472Except Kobo.
>>28649302Why do you say that? She looks like generic dumb bitch #17000 to me.
>>28649302This thread is giving me so much grudgepost material
>>28649569Holo
how the fuck niji twitter engagement was so high compared to their talent CCV?do twittard didnt watch streams or smthng?
>>28649302OH NO NO NO ROSEBUTTKEKS I THINK WE FOUND THE ROSEMI KILLER
>>28649573Cunny
>>28649272I swear I used ctrl+F. searched for "Matsuri", "Youtube" and "god" and didn't see it before, I'm fucking retarded
>>28649302draw porn of her please.... god
>>28649569Anon, Kobo haven't even breached the 100k threshold yet
>>28649466i want ES with good singerbut i also want KR, because they good being coombaiter
>>28649551lol no, that's a waste of fucking money. Not like Twitter Engagement for Nijisanji ever translated to success. No, organic engagement is far better, Nijisanji if they are paying for their Topic is paying out the ass for it.
>>2864957790% of it is Holoshitters falseflagging
Just checked the news after being busy all day. Is there seriously a new Niji wave already? Holy fuck I hate them so fucking much. Just fucking stop already holy fuck. JUST FUCKING STOP!!!
>>28649682Should have searched using the "v=" in the URL first anon
>>28649648They have their own twitter topic
>>28649569I don't remember anyone calling her Gura killer, more like Vox killer at this point.
>>28649738nijiseethe
>>28649208So they are actually doing pretty good.
If the purple cunny whips out a Stay With Me cover, how fucked would Gura be?
>>28649774post the meme
>>28649648Their twitter engagement is a meme since they get more likes than views sometimes.
>>28649648Here's what happens. Anyone who is a follower of any niji sees only other niji tweets, and they just like every single one or retweet them, which causes the numbers to be incredibly over inflated since instead of actual followers you just have other peoples followers bandwagoning on top of you
>>28649828
>>28648824I think a good voiced trailer can be a buff but the NijiEN6 trailer is using some awfully scuffed audio. What the fuck were they thinking lol.
>>28649213she just got muscle sore
>>28649814Tempus has almost double the subs that UPROAR had on their debut day and theyre still a couple days from their first 2 debuts.
>>28648403Did some research and it seems that 2nd placer (LL Nijigasaki 2nd season vol 1) sold 16k in 3 days. Is Suisei gonna make bank and sell 20k+ day 1? That'd be 4x Watame's numbers jesas.
>>28649871>but the NijiEN6 trailerBoth Luxiem and Noctyx had godawful ones too
>>28649515> Idol companyThey may be males but they have to follow the company's CoC
>>28648403Hololive have the best idols.
>>28649806And she inclined hard af
>>28649515Holostars is always about bros being bros
>>28649707>that's a waste of fucking money.Twitter is the most popular social media platform in Japan and the most effective marketing tool for a vtuber outside of youtube. It's far more powerful than reddit and any other social media platform. Sometimes people show up and sometimes they don't, but there's a reason why Holos are almost constantly on twitter when they aren't streaming. Where do you think they go when they go ego-searching?
Am I the only one who has noticed that all the pekora numberfag falseflaggers have disappeared since Kobo came out?
>>28649871most have been pretty awful but Vox's brought a fuck ton of attention they wouldn't normally get
>>28649919Luxiems made my peepee hard
Daily reminder that Mika had over 50k likes for her YT termination and her return had 1-2k ccvIn case any people need another reminder that Niji twitter is the biggest joke on planet earth
>>28649774It is the year 2024 and NijiEN just debuted a new wave. There are now 16,000 NijiEN members yet only Luxiem seems to get any kind of sponsorship opportunities or merchandise runs.
>>28649981I'm sorry about your deafness and your homosexuality
>>28649976>My Indog kobokeks boogeyman
Is it possible for Tempus to get 3D debuts as well?
>>28649976Am I the only one noticed that it's been a long time since last PekoMiko interaction?
>>286499665ch, dumbass. Lap+ was literally caught posting to defend herself on there, do your fucking reps
i dont remember Roberu being fujo bait?
>>28649981I'm sorry you're gay
>>28650080Omega will make it happen
>>28650080no
>>28650034>>28650102N-No I just love talent...
>>28650080It would be extremely funny if Tempus would get 3D first before Luxiem
>>28649648>Audience behaviorNiji has a huge fujo fanbase and women love tweeting, same shit with kpopfags. That's why they always go trending. Funny is that Holo tweet usually 1k - 3k likes but their CCV is like x3 or x5 times bigger. Men just don't tweet that much.
>>28650160is that what you tell yourself when you jerk off to Vox making you deepthroat him every night?
>>28650160Whatever you say you prancing lala homo fruit
>>28650080Sure. The only issue is the same issue that the rest of the non-JP branches face. Hololive is lucky in that it doesn't have a massive backlog like Nijishitty has since they don't debut chuubas every single week like fucking ADD schizos.
>>28650037>boogeymanwhat do you call a boogeyman that is actually real?
>>28650084>one instance>multiple instances of holos admitting to looking themselves up on twitterWhich do you think is more common?
>>28648824NijiEN is run by fucking amateurs judging by the sound quality alone. It's doesn't matter in the long run tho since they don't really care about talent branding and individuality.
>>28650080Yes. Stars got 3D and StarsEN will blow their numbers out of the water
>>28649648And that's why it's just a meme.>>28649909She will sell better than Watame for sure. I think her album sold 6x of Watame's?>>28649707It's a good marketing tool though. Just look at picrel for example.
>>28650188maybe not before the golden goose Luxiem but 100% before noctyx
>>28650228If Magni was Lando, expect some breakdancing to be on the menu
What's the final ever Sana line going to look like by the time July is over?
>>28650080tempus will get smuggled into japan by omega personally and be offered vip treatment getting 3D before council, enstars 2 will then be released while holoen are left to manage themselves
you guys need to stop hyping up homo en because I'm opening up to them more and more with the shitposts. I don't want them to let me down with fujo baits...
>>28650196From what I've seen, Nijifags post most of their clips on twitter too under their stream hashtags which is why that tag trends more often.>Men just don't tweet that much.Men just like horny fanarts, but don't retweet out of shame. Females don't care and do both.
>>28650359It's not going to be a Sana line it's going to be a fucking Bae line at this rate
>>28650090Roberu is hetero bait. People shipped him with a lot of girls.
>>28650302hashtags are not topics. why do technically incompetent people have conversations about this stuff
>>28649302She might not be the Gura killer but she is 100% the Rosemi killer especially after Rosemi starts cutting back on hours more due to college.She does seem better than the rest.
>>28649093Tempus seems more talented, knows how to banter well.NijiEN6 is prolly gunning for the chinese fujo audience.
>>28650373This, tribalism is making me want to sub to them
Shut up everyone my wife Nui is aiming for gold.
>>28650373the only one who will fujobait is the blue guy, orange is an apex addict, MAGS is a memelord, and alucard is a boomer
>>28649863Nah, anyone who follows any vtubers get niji tweets shoved into their timeline.
>>28649302Will she pulls a Nyanner and shit on her lolicon fanbase?
>>28649966It never work with NijiNiji Twitter number almost never translated to viewershipIf you are a Holo manager looking at that why would you bother?
>>28650302Hashtags don't cost anything. This guy is just retarded.It is a good marketing tool tho, but the low commitment aspect of it makes it unreliable for people to actually show up. it is a good gauge for hype tho.
>>28650438as a nijifag tempus are definitely a lot more interesting
>>28650467>>28650508if they are brotubers and get 1k+ average, I see that as a success already.
>>28650412HoloStars are the heroes of nerdy guys, just like how StarsEN will be.
>>28650485Today is Tower gold Nuikek. Don't get cocky so soon
>>28650438They're going for the LGBTQIA2SPBIPOC+ Community
Fuck, jfc. Are all ASMR disgusting shits?
>>28650508Anon, the blue guy is a certified shitposter as well.
>>28650423I know. What I mean is paying Twitter for Topic will be good for marketing tool.>>28650567Not the hashtag but the emoji https://www.marketingdive.com/ex/mobilemarketer/cms/news/messaging/22215.html
>>28650567>Hashtags don't cost anythingBranded ones with the emojis next to them do, actually.
>>28650668What's Twappi got?
What's today on the menu for gold? Nui's Koshien? Towa's new outfit? something else?
>>28649966becasue making people use a different platfrom is different. is not like they are selling you an actual prodcut. they are asking you to "please keep following these youtube chanels" that is why twitter engagement barely reflects viewership
>>28650302Oricon has Watame Blu-ray sales at 4,465Nijisanji sales are pic related.
>>28650707It's like 50/50if you don't want ero stuff don't click on the shit with slutty thumbnails
>>28650557There's many instances where it does translate, like NJU, Nijipex, NijiMK, Koshien, Niji3D debuts (the big ones like Fuwa and Ib). https://twitter.com/1000000lome/status/1545731506592956417This Salome stream ended up with a 100k+ peak and has 2 mil VOD views now.Even if the twitter numbers are inflated, EN6's debuts aren't going to be lower than 60k.
>>28650707ASMR is sexual, what the fuck did you expect listening to male ASMR retardbro?
haachama now knows what badonkadonk means....
>>28650804Isn't the new outfit tomorrow?
when did the rabid hostility toward nijisanji start? luxiem?
>>28650816Do you have Toko's sololive BD numbers?
>>28650844Well, I wanted to know why Vox's ASMR was age restricted. Never listened to female ASMR btw.
>>28650844>ASMR is sexual,No.Having poprocks pop in my ear is not sexual. Wooden cubes scraping against a wooden bowl is not sexual. The pitter patter of rain hitting a surface is not sexual. Fuck off.
>>28650830Literally only work (somewhat) for big event streams like what you say
>>28648824I think usually, it's better to hide it, but I think in some cases, like with Vox, where it's a really distinct voice, it can help. I remember seeing so many reactions to the Luxiem trailer where people went crazy over his voice.
>>28650804King Koshien
>>28650910>when did the rabid hostility toward nijisanji startback on /jp/
>>28650847ima drop my badonkadonk okae
>>28650844 some male asmr artists just do shit like crinkle paper
>>28650944This is obviously in the context of vtubers
>>28650931>Well, I wanted to know why Vox's ASMR was age restricted.Because he fucking roleplayed a boss blackmailing his worker (You) into giving him a fucking blowjob nigger
>>28650910Not really, Luxiem can do whateverBut I do not tolerate Nijinigger who insist that disgusting fujobait is somehow acceptable just because it bring slightly more number than usual
>>28650910When chinks adopted them so luxiem might be it.
>>286509102019
>>28651022That's kinda hot...
>>28646551>>28645602
>>28650847just imagining her say that in her retarded english makes me wheeze, bless you haachama
>>28651013>This is obviously in the context of vtubersAnd there are fucking vtubers who do just that faggot. And then they get called shit for doing it.
>>28650910Hostility has always been present, but it did ramp up after the discord leak and Luxiem being a surprise hit. Them catching up and exceeding Council in subs didn't help.
Shit, NijiEN might blow up in Latam, SEA and EU at this rate. They have everyone.Is this strategy of starving HoloEN of talents working?
Moona Ollie Kobo 1.14M
jwu>6 peoplewe're gonna start seeing 1 or 2 permanent 3views on nijiEN soon, only barely over a year and fucking 26 people already
>>28650816Where is this even listed?
fyi not just mainland chink, Taiwanese also like the nijimales.
>>28651160>Is this strategy of starving HoloEN of talents working?Hololive's entire strategy is finding literal who's and making them into idols, they will never run out of talent
>>28651113This is Nijisanji board, shut u if you don't like it.
>>28651013Rosemi and Millie don't do sexual ASMR
>>28651160Idk, Reimu flopped hard on the latin market
>>28651160Nijisanji is more like shrinking seeing how they canned KR and ID and EN not really going for the EN crowd.
The more niji becomes mansanji the more chances of me not watching them
>>28651160We have an Austrian and it didn't blow up in Europe.
>>28651242>/mag/ is still as fast as NijiEN generalI don't think so
>>28651232>only fujos though
>>28651344Nijisanji doesn't have an Austrian talent you dumbass
>>28651238Hololive with Yagoo incharge is a massive giga saviorfag company.
>>28651412I am of course talking about our social butterfly phoenix you fucking nijinigger.
>>28651160>starving HoloEN of talentsthey're doing a pretty bad job at it if that's what they are going for
>>28651344>Debuff voice>Debuff colors>Debuff personality Yeah, no wonder.
>>28651368Ngl, /Mag/ is already better than any other thread here
>>28651344To be fair her concert trended in Gernany so it's already better than NijiEN that has 2 brits that stream in CN prime time
>>28651160>Try to appeal to VietNot gonna work bro. Otherwise Bao would already kill Gura
>>28651160What fucking talents faggotTheir talent are subpar, otherwise they'd legitimately climb.
>>28651319its funny they didnt try ES when that would probably have a higher chance of success.
>>28651461He can't save Aloe.....Also I don't think La+ need saving? She was very comfortable in her PL.
>>28650373
>>28650668that's tomorrow anon
>>28651571>managing multiple spic talentsI wouldn't wish that on anyone. A single one with an ego can make your life a living hell
>>28651461Riku is a much bigger savior fag anon, seeing how he never fires the low-performing talents.
>>28651160>TalentsThere's no talent in Niji. Everytime Niji debut a new wave I just need to take a glance at them to know "Yeah they are probably just the same as previous wave"
>Highest peaks are Gura and KroniiBLUE WOMEN STRONG
Okay seriously who in their right mind believes NijiEN Wave6ix9ine will be 60k? You have to be joking, the EN market literally can't support 60k. Fucking 3D concerts from Holos can't even get that much, you think a debut with no buildup outside twitter, shitty voices, weak personality, and bad character designs from a company with a weak brand in their domestics market, for a branch that doesn't appeal to the audience they're actually pandering to, can get that?Who the fuck do you think the audience of NijiEN Wave6ix9ine is for?
>>28651498if she use her normal voice, her personality will perfectly match, and it's good
>>28646254YOU can buy twitter topics for your brand or talent's name, how newfag are you in twitter sphere? kpop idols do that, if their idols don't get twitter topic they'll do mass hashtag protest so that their idol name will get one
>>28651570Koyo
>>28651667>EN market
>>28651686They mass hastag protest for WHAT?
>>28651498She can always improve her personality, it is quite easy to do because she starts low.
>>28650910Nijisanji been toxic since 2019.
>>28651667You probably meant CN market
>>28651786Trust me you do not want to know anything about kpop twitter
>>28651791It's been 2 years bro, she's not going to suddenly change
>>28651758>>28651825So it's not the EN market. Is it the Chinese market then? Will Chinese people watch them because they trended on Twitter? I don't think any of them can pander hard enough to pull that audience
>>28651686>if their idols don't get twitter topic they'll do mass hashtag protest so that their idol name will get oneThat's literally the opposite of "paying" for a twitter topic. People like you keep saying you can buy a twitter topic but are never able to find a source with a price tag.
>all out war>hololive in shamblesgee I wonder where the hostility was coming from
>>28651667no one actually believes that. if it happens you just know that it is the nijibots at work again
So what is it about the baseball game that makes the graph linear instead of logarithmic? It's so weird for there to be a constant stream of the same rate of increase of audience for 45 minutes.
>>28651869I am surprised she can survive in entertainment industry for so long with such shitty social skill.
>>28651924Here's an additional graph
>>28651160How does it work for Millie and Reimu?
holo gets to be the opening act of animelo? thats pretty fucking bigI know niji had a appearance there before toonow all thats left is suisei to appear in that prestigious NHK music show then holo has achieve mainstream status
>>28651906Nobody is in shambles until the actual debuts. It's gonna be fucking awesome regardless of the outcome. Although personally I hope Tempus succeeds and Niji6 flops.
>>28651883dunno, they do have a massive timezone advantage when it comes to ccv making things look closer than they actually are
>>28651999SORRY KRONII 10K IS FOR GROWNUPS
>>28651651Riku fired 50 girls in one day, nigger.
>>28650910>luxiemhow cute
>>28650928Here you go.>>28651210Oricon database
>>28651924Bots
>>28651924ever been to a real baseball game?you don't need to show up for the first 3 innings
>>28651924BotsAnyone who seriously argues that this shitty baseball game has special cultural relevancy beyond everything else in Japan and that it can randomly pull 40k-50k people from thin air at any time of day, who watch nothing else, are arguing in bad faith
>>28651667Weren't Noctyx's debuts got that much?
>>28651999That viewer retention looks delicious
>>28648235That patented EN 100% like rate
>>28652078Kill yourself, I'm not arguing, just do it
>>28651906Fulgur's stupid statement was far more hostile than Vox making a lame joke about HoloEN's well documented technical issues.Veibae has said things FAR worse in public than NijiEN has ever dreamt of.
>>28652067Toko's sololive outsold Niji's BD? Toko I kneel...Also anon please update us on Mori's album sales later.
>>28651896> a price tagYou need to be 18 to post in here.
This is for Nijifans when they sperg out I guess
>>28651883>CN market>debut at MondayIt kinda worked for Luxiem, but I don't know how will it be for iLuna
>>28652264I would buy one of Suichan's CDs
>>28652268Guess I'll keep waiting then, retard.
>>28652026Suisei would shit her pants if she was invited to Kohaku
>>28652292lmao fuck it i'll watch your homo
>>28652292it just came to me that magni's illustrator got hand fetish
>>28648235how about you explain this?btw right before the stream got privated, she had 9k likes
>>28650910Back during the holocaust. then the aloe incident cemented it
>>28652262What did Vei say?
>>28649302I honestly disagree with the design. It's a puppet, a deadpan face making cynical/self depreciating humor would've earned her something. Now she's a gura clone like most others are.
A little over 2 days after making something your audience is not interested invsA little under 5 hours after making something your audience is interested insomeone please fire omega
>>28652355That's her objective for this year
>>28652388youtube doesn't show accurate ccv what is new?
>>28649396bruh, nijiEN6 had been popping up in other topics like Anime or Popular images. I don't know how they even got there.
>>28652348Don't you have a homework that you need to finish tonight?
>>28649302Nobody can kill Gura. Maria will be the Rosemi/Pomu killer.
>>28651999Holy shit ID debuff is real. This collab is doing much worse than yesterday's
>>28652355>looking through the performer list for 2021 Kohaku Uta GassenHol up.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MafumafuIs this who I think it is?
>>28652461WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL COMPARING TWITTERSWHYWHYWHYWHY
>>28652388>ENGLISH KARAOKE PARTY
>>28652262Yes, then it bit her in the ass later and got her Kiara collab cancelled and ostensibly blacklisted as a result. No one knows why exactly there's a block between HoloEN and NijiEN from collaboration, but I wouldn't be surprised if that leak, despite being slightly less retarded than Veibae's clip, at least contributed to it somehow.
>>28652062>aqua same tier with Sakukek
>>28651924have you never watched an eiken nine stream, huge parts of the streams are stretches of sometimes a whole ass hour of spreadsheet simulator that's stealthily a gacha that culminate in games, they're like 1 to 2 hours of pure build up
>>28652461dw auditions are already open for the next wave of omegas pet project
>>28652605Numbers are numbers
>>28652295wait hold on a minute did they really name it iLuna? Like a fucking iPhone?
>>28650910>all these newfag answerit all started during aqua's dominance then escalated when niji announced it got nintendo perms then the holocaust then every known holo scandal after especially the aloe situation because aloe's PL referenced a "friend" that was also in niji niconico must die along with the shitty nijifags it has
>>28652626Nigger they've been blocking collabs since before that, Ollie was supposed to collab with Selen since last fucking year.
>>28652531That's pretty normal for Niji. Their tweets get a lot of engagement so twitter thinks everything is going viral.Wait till you start seeing Kuzuha's koshien stream frame tweets show up under "Baseball" or "sports".
>>28652388I'm still seriously surprised she was still rising before her part C too, during one hell of an overlap during an unfavorable time for ENs toothis is uniroencally impressive given that this is haachama at the end of the day and not another ENwonder if her twitch streams are actually helping her get her EOP audience backbtw, nyanners only has 1.3k more than haachama on twitch right now
>>28652450Probably that shit back in 2020 where she insulted Hololive by saying that they are all fake.
>>28652262What did she say?
>>28652355If there is a vtuber who will get invited to Kohaku, it's probably Kaf.
>>28652608yes, but this is haachama.
>>28652757>only 1.3k moreWhat the fuck happened to her? Didn't she usually pull 8k-10k?
>>28652461>making something your audience is not interested inI'm magged out anon.
>>28650707nah, fauna is good. ACtually Fauna is the biggest EN asmr vtuber with 400k views on most of her asmrs. Vox spams them but it never got any traction after that, it's like a one time thing. If he wanted to RP, then don't use an ASMR mic, that fucking retard.
>>28652461Manjisanji...
>>28652026Didn't Suisei get on a one off radio show on NHK recently?
>>28652812You mean Ado
>>28652292Nijiniggers ahould spend this wisely because Maglord only has that much fucks to give.
NijiEN blocks HoloEN collabs because they have mihoyo moneysimple as is
So ... who will be the next Gura killer in wave6 after Vox ?
>>28652698It's written with all caps in the PV, ILUNA
>>28652450Basically said Cover forces their vtubers fake personalities and they have no content control. Also said some bullshit about "former members" confirming it was a black company. All a bunch of bullshit that nobody actually did.
>>28652872Are we going to meme Magni like how Reddit memed Roberu to relevency?
>>28652716Kuzuha can write "sleep" and get 60k likes.
>>28652757>btw, nyanners only has 1.3k more than haachama on twitch right nowHOLY MOTHER OF RECLINE
>>28652961so... like a LLAMA?
>>28651344She trended in Germany at EU primetime so that counts as something
>>28652907The trap is the lowest right now. Pretty doomed honestly.
>>28652812Kohaku has a thematic face off. If the theme is "virtual" it could be KAF vs Suisei. KAF would destroy her
>>28649996kobo only had like.. 20k likes something on her yt banned announcement thingie but she returned stronger, especially with her PvZ arc that hit 20k CCV, it's funny really
>>28652986anon, we memed roberu to relevancy too
>>28652450>>28652787https://streamable.com/7ub5l4
>>28652642So to me that would constitute more of a flat line graph that shoots up when it's time to actually play the sport, not a purely linear increasing graph. If there are lulls in action so-to-speak, then the CCV should reflect that, but it clearly doesn't.
>>28652861She got a boyfriend
>>28652988
>>28652986reddit didn't do shit, it was /hlg/ that memed son into the number one holostar
>>28652461>TwitterWho cares?Everyone already knows Hololive basically has no viewer pool that wanted males. They're still trying to get into that market.
>>28653067Huh? I thought Vshojo's fans don't care about that
>>28653013I figure a lot of fujos did not even realize he was a guy or shotas just aren't as popular with them as bishies.
>>28652488i can already imagine the amount of seethe from vsingers and irl artists who have yet to be invited there (and been grinding for years) lmao it's gonna be golden. go sui go!
>>28653053Man, I remember when Veibae had a huge Japanese following.
>>28652908That isn't Kohaku
>>28653109the silent majority do
Well, Fauna's due to pass Bae by the end of this week unless Bae fucking does something about it. Man what the hell happened
>>28653098ohhhhh....I see...
>>28653109that's what everyone says for internet good boy points, but the moment it actually happens they silently leave
>>28653098Seems like Vshojo really fell from their high.
>>28653013Clearly Finana needs to come out in support of traps.
>>28653199the fabled fauna incline
>>28653098Holy shit Haachama is #1 JP Vtuber and #1 Trending in Japan for Vtubers
>>28653102>instigated and clipped the "winning son" meme>clipped and posted the fall guys clip Man /hlg/ used to be based before tribalfaggots ruined it.
>>28652666The audition is always open anonchama>>28652912Do we count Ado as a vsinger? I know there is that One Piece vtuber but I don't think that Ado herself is virtual.>>28653019Someone please post that Suisei/Kaf duet clip.
>>28653053What a dumb cunt.
Chammers has classes in the late afternoon-evening no? Is this why she's only playing Valorant and not doing any variety
>>28653098Huh, I thought Twitch banned for going shirtless.
>>28653265Finana will complete become a 3views after wave6 debut
>>28653098>Haachama 3.4kINCLINING
>>28653199say that someone is Gura killer is a curse
>>28652461Is Fulgur more popular than Sana?
>>28653098>xqc>auditory asmr>vtuber>korean>japanTwitch sort your shit out
>>28653307Ado is an utaite
>>28651667>the EN market literally can't support 60kif we are talking about EN markets in general, well council and hope debuted with 90k ccv anon, but still idk about nijis
>>28653199Fauna is more consistent in content and schedule.
>>28653199Collabed with males
>>28653418no
>>28651667It's a debut and like the other anon said, Noctyx debuts got that much. They just need tourists to show up. 3d lives are not going to be as big as debuts
>>28653199How the fuck was Bae ahead of Fauna to begin with? I think without the boyfriend yab Fauna would have been Ina tier.
Gura member stream tomorrow. Still no public stream after a week but it’s something…
>>28652461This is Ridonculus on Twitter you fucking Nijiniggers. Where the fuck are those 130k bots now ????
>>28653502With I could just leave my job for a week with absolutely no explanation whenever I want..
>>28653199Fauna incline, faunaschizo in shambles. Bae will be the new runt of EN after Sana in most metrics.
>>28651786they mass hashtag, protesting to their idol's company because their idol don't have their own name topic, of course it got trending lmao
>>28653098This is why you don't shove your relationships in your audience's faces and date your co-workers. It doesn't even have anything to do with unicorns or being a simp or a cuck, what exactly is entertaining about being part of an audience that is being treated like a third wheel? This is going to backfire hard when they inevitably break up and things get awkward.
>>28653098is haachama actually inclining in twitch? her valorant twitch streams were barely breaking 3kher minecraft stream peaked at like 4.3-4.5k or something, and these times are still not very favorable for eops this is impressive I can't lie
>>28653199This + 10k true average soon
>>28653480There was no yab.
>>28653441Fauna also stopped playing long ass visual novels (like she hasn't played the new Somnium Files game)
>>28653199Based, glad Fauna is inclining
>>28653546her job is whatever cover pays/contracts her to do
>>28653599Fauna played a single visual novel which she finished in one sitting dude. Her average will go down when she goes back to asscreed and Skyrim too.
>>28651686https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/follow-and-unfollow-topics#selectYou can't pay for a topic. Ultimately, it's about tweet volume and girls tweet more than guys when it comes to stuff like vtubers.
>>28653418He's more popular than Sana on twitter. More popular than Pekora somedays too with how retardedly inflated Nijitwitter is.
>>28653098>4k streaming with your boyfriend I can respect that.
Imagine being the guy who held thousand of shares since it opened
>>28653418No, but I do feel predebut followers is an indicator of hype.
>>28653345it's assumptions at this point, but I don't think she wants to make her jp fanbase feel alienated like what happened back in 2020, so she opted to doing valorant and some minecraft streams in englishreminder in the last 3 days she did 3 streams everyday I think, 6 of those streams are in english, so I assume that's what she's going foralso, she never played that many games to begin with anyway
>>28653536what were the new nijiJP boys numbers
What if Gura was preparing something for the Korean cafe? It opens like tomorrow or something right?
Valorant, Apex, OW, OW2. Which is best?
>>28653480>How the fuck was Bae ahead of Fauna to begin with?Sports Festival POVFebaerary
>>28653199Fauna has the fastest growth in council right nowBae is growing fine considering she took a 21 day break earlier
>>28653693Tweet, like, and retweet too. I feel like there's a large population of women who just live on twitter and breathe vtubers, the same way kpop stans are.Don't show up for streams tho or else Uki and Sonny would be 10k streamers kek.
>Wave6 debut .... Reimu and Finana complete dead PLEASE WATCH OUR GIRLS HOLOBROS HELP THEM , DO SOMETHING
>>28653743It's not. See upthread >>28653536Twitter Engagement is actually worthless for Nijis, their Topic inflates the numbers so badly you might as well concider Iluna a total flop for having anything less than 100k likes on their tweets
>>28653536kek reminds me of bora/niji jp graduation likes vs coco graduation likes
>>28653547Bae needs to pull a Fauna and stream in a consistent slot while avoiding overlaps for buff streams so she can raise her ccv, she can very well turn all this around if she uses her brain
>>28653199She streams a good amount and doesn't take tons of fucking breaks like a lot of ENsShe makes good content choices and plays few serious debuff gamesShe's good at talking and can gab for hours in solo streams while keeping things freshShe's an excellent 1-1 collab partner (although weaker in group collabs because she can't be heard well)She's a decent gamer who takes stuff seriously and will show visible, on-screen progress and improvement (GOI and Minecraft speedrunning autism, for example)She has a pretty great sense of improv and roleplay, which means she gets decent clips and fanbase memes like Faendal and also is involved in many of the most kino Minecraft collab moments
>>28653103Hololive probably planned to create a separate pool of Holostar viewer. It’s not necessarily have to be old fan watching them
Kronii hit 10k right as the streams are wrapping up very soon
If 26 NijiEN members stream in the same day, the total audience count for NijiEN daily would be like 130k. That's more than what HoloEN gets.
>>28653975anon?
>>28653780Voltaction? 39k likes, 18.3k retweet
>>28652461They're aiming at a new audience. And yes, EN3 is still happening, this is not replacing EN3.
Who is more popular, Mumei or Fauna? The answer doesn’t seem quite as clear as it used to be.
>>28653536Nijisanji twitter number is a joke. Bad faith posters love to use them.
>>28653801I think Gura and Ame had meetings at the same time, and Ina’s been mentioning meetings too. It feels like something Myth related but I’m not sure
>>28653975>130k >NijiEN Lmao
NijiTwitter: 100 likes = 1 like for non-nijisNijiTwitter: 50 followers = 1 Follower for non-nijis
>>28653961Fuckin finally. 10k for a split POV minecraft stream should be quite easy for someone of Kronii's caliber.
>>28654053Mumei for buff streamsFauna in floor or for gaming content
Neat.
>>28654037Will the number 3 work in their favor again?
>>28653878Not so fast Vox sister
>>28654053Kronii, Mumei and Fauna are all at the same tier as Ina. Gura is Pekora tier for EN. The other 4 is the second army of EN.
>>28653098lmao
>>28653536divided by 3
>>28653975Pfftffft. More like 26k total, which is like a single Gura stream.
>>28654115INDOCHADS HOW ARE WE FEELING RIGHT NOW ???
>>28654063Like I said, it might be the cafe since they have to record videos for the visitors.
>>286541694.7k cucks...
>>28653098Someone tune into Nyanners stream and tell me how much they flirt and why her fans are such cucks
>>28653912You're thinking of Lulu who had way more likes that Coco but 1/3 the viewers.
>>28654115Kobo is very strong. Her VOD number is pretty good, too.
>>28654053Mumei, her ceiling is far higher
>>28654053Fauna has more consistent floors (doesn't pick streams that somewhat rely on gameplay like OW and Apex) and Mumei has some duds sometimes. However Mumei's ceilings are much higher than Fauna's.I don't think Fauna has had a 25k stream in ages.
>>28653536130k likes40k-50k debuts1k CCVNice Twitter engagement you have there.
>>28653307>>28653436>Do we count Ado as a vsinger?https://youtu.be/z2obDwLSeJI>>28653019No. KAF is improving surely, but i said suisei is still more of a solid singer since she has found her own "style". If we talk about kamitsubaki, isekaijoucho and koko are their most solid singer
>>28654115>ID1>ID2>ID3ID stronk
Is twitter cope for nijis the equivalent of vod cope for chumcucks?
>>28653801Gura is preparing her resignation and transfer to Vshojo so she can be with her friend Nyanners.
>>28653864Pretty much. Like if you look through the quote retweets for the tempus announcement, you'll find a lot of the tweets shitting on the models are from nijifans replying to each other (although there are obviously holofans complaining too)
>>28654169who does this appeal to actually? I checked it out and they do not even read chat and just flirt with each other
Hololive Overseas first Army>Gura, Ina, Kronii, Mumei, Fauna, KoboNijiEN first Army>Vox, Mysta
Is this >>28628832 /lantinx/ general?
>>28654356self inserters and unironic cucks
>>28654295>vod copego away with your timeloop
>>28654367>Kronii, Mumei, Fauna>first army
>>28654295VOD number has a glorified weekly stream though, and it has better CCV than Nijisanji average.
>>28654141Fingers crossed for at least 1 hardworking hag.
>>28654115Is it me or has her subgrowth actually sped up?
>>28654367>first ArmyWhat is this term? I would usually think of this concept as tiers
>>28654053The other anons answered, but I want Moomers to drop college and become the Miko of EN
>>28653019I like Kaf but she has nothing on Suisei.Suisei is arguably the best vsinger on the market right now followed by Towa.
>>28654367Gura is like 10k ahead of all of them.
>>28654278>Her VOD number is pretty good, too.It's not "pretty good" lol. It's fucking insane.Kobo has the strongest VODs in Hololive after Gura and the top of HoloJP.She should have no business getting 300-400k VODs with her level of CCV. For a while, Vox and Mysta had pretty good VODs(lots of 250-300k), but they're trash compared to Kobo.
>>28654476It’s from 5chThey rank the Holomem number and created the First Army of Hololive
>>28654291You forgot the 2 million views, which is really a damn plenty.
>>28654485It's wise of her to finish. Sure, monetarily, she doesn't need to do it anymore. But it's a nice accomplishment to finish your degree in a field you're passionate for, she won't regret doing it (probably)
>>28653546you are not her boss anon, she doesn't need to explain to you, she needs to explain to cover
>>28654485Mumei is in college? They all make well over six figs why do they even bother
>>28654511(never watched them).jpg from 5ch
>>28654510If only she streamed...
>>28653801no it's for that crunchyroll expo or whatever
>>28654565Meanwhile their highest VoD is 427k.
>>28654338Nijifans live in their own head apparently. They only like Vshojo and Nijisanji because those companies are not Hololive.
>>28654608Because the enrolled before joining Hololive?Also getting an education is never uneccessary
>>28654608She's in grad school and who knows how long vtubing will be viable as a career. 6 figures won't amount for much if the entire industry dies 3 years from now and she's left with no other career prospects
>>28654485>miko of enThe single mom of en?
>>28654367NijiEN crowd overlaps heavily with JP so I don't think it's accurate to label the. overseas. They are pretty much like Bora who whilst a KR is a de facto JP streamer.
>>28654608What this anon said>>28654567
>>28654421Kronii and Mumei have higher median than Mysta and Vox, and Fauna has near Median close to them
>>28654511
>>28654724The fuck? She doesn't sound smart at all, the fuck is she getting her Masters in? Gender Studies?
>>28654485>mikoshe'd be the haachama of EN
>>28654729On the other hand, Hololive manages to carve into KR and TW without having any branches in those countries.
>>28654338I mean, the most popular reply under the announcement for Tempus is outright mocking the designs. The 2nd most popular reply is crying for Cover to give them better designs lol.To say it was a flop of a reveal would be an understatement. The worst you can say about Wave6's designs is they look generic. You can argue some of Tempus's designs are fucking awful.That being said, much like how HoloEN has a lock on the NA youtube audience, the same could be said for Nijis having a lock on women on twitter. That's how it is in Japan too.
>>28654537She basically confirmed on her free talk yesterday that the majority of her subscribers only watch her VOD
>>2865469790% of nijiniggers watch nijisanji not because they like nijisanji but because it's not hololive
>>28654485Eh, if she's only in for a Bachelors I'd think she'd be better of completing it first if she likes it. Not like she can't afford tuition now and being more educated never hurt anyone, unless it's a degree in a meme-tier major. Also, I highly doubt Mooms would become a Miko of EN, Migoti goes waaaayyy hard to the point where her fragile health takes a hit. I doubt Mooms could get nearly as motivated as Migoti.
>>28654608She made some roommate tweet basically saying she should've dropped out."I would've dropped out if I hadn't gotten my dog. Don't get a dog" or something
>>28654338>this is a plea of money if i've ever seen one
>>28654367HoloEN has a nice ratio, half of their members if you exclude Sana are above average tiers with one top tier. While NijiEN has 20 members but only 4 of them breached the 7k line.
Need I even say it?
>>28654053it's a case of mixed up floors and ceilingsif you have a high floor and a high ceiling, or a low floor and a low ceiling, that's expected behavior, but if they're mixed, there's a problem:- if you have a high floor but a low ceiling it means you know what your audience wants and you manage your channel properly, you play the buffs and the slots game properly, but you filter the general audience because of something about you- if you have a low floor but a high ceiling it means you're charismatic and the general audience doesn't find you filtering, but you're shit at managing your channel and you have no idea what you're doing
>>28654869phd in marine biology or something? not sure.
>>28654827yes but theyre not a 10k chuuba
what chance any 6th wave will said 'trap'??
>>28654557一軍 (first army) means they are the starters or in the big league of the group, it's a popular term in asia when it comes to sport.
>>28655014Is that a jojo reference?
>>28654963 - MeOops. Accidentally cropped the bottom of Kronii's tweet. The point was, it's less than Vox's Tweet, that's all you need to know.
>>28654967
>>28654565> Scroll through the tweeter page> Video autoplay for 0.0001 sec> View count increased by 1Twitter numbers are as bad as Bilibili magic numbers.
>>28655014Damn
LMFAO Kronii almost forgot to announce the big Councilrys event tomorrow. This woman...
>>28654963We already knew Vox is more popular than Kronii faggot
>>28655014>Phd in marine biologyYou're joking right? That's not even a meme major. Jesas this woman has a higher education than I do
>>28655136No, he isn't. He really really isn't
>>28655087Numbers?
>>28654413Don't forget the gays.
>>28654963Vox being more popular than Kronii isn't really a controversial thing to say. CCV and VODs are close, but his subgrowth speaks for itself and his ceilings are much higher.
needs a better edit
>>28655200Anon, with how vast the ocean is, we don't know what kind of monster is lurking underneath. Marine biology is a necessary profession.
>>28655207Sorry I don't understand English. Can you say that in Chinese?
Hey speaking of Bae being a flake she cancelled a stream that was supposed to be a collab with Sana.
>>28655014>>28655200I don't think she's ever mentioned what's she majoring in on stream, no
>>28655014>phdexplains why she has more free time to stream. I couldn't imagine doing my bachelors and streaming
>>28655256The dude has not even debuted yet and 4chan is pumping out memes after memes. What the fuck?
>>28655051Mori is in the numbers thread?
>>28655253timezones
>>28654285>I don't think Fauna has had a 25k stream in agesMore like almost never. The only time she passed 25k ccv outside of debut was in the kimono relay. Even her first game streams right after debut only hit 22k
>>28655253Cope
>>28655087Holy shit that thread cannot stop deliver
>>28655087Magni is going to be a low 3view and half of his viewers will be the shitposters on /mag/
>>28655340She is on her first/2nd year probably
>>28654987If their 3D streams were a good indication of their ceilings, a good example of this in JP would be Koyori vs Iroha especially with the difference in subs. Though Iroha's been stepping it up lately
>>28654916oh yeah I'm not saying the reveal was a massive success or anything. but I am pointing out that a lot of the negative engagement on twitter is coming from people who always hated hololive in the first place.https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1548835509442850816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfwbtw how do you sort by popular replies? I'm looking here but the replies I see right below the tweet are just generic stuff. The quote retweets are mostly making fun of the faces, but even the people here who want tempus to succeed are making fun of the faces.
>>28655429>only 1 average over 10kmeme market
>>28655429He's going to have a slew of buff streams coming up with the new wave, but you're retarded if you don't think 8k vs 9k is close.His VOD numbers are near identical to Kronii's these days.
>>28655429Please for the love of God can someone else please crack 10k average consistently
what the fuck?
>>28655101>>28655200>>28655338>>28655340yeah ive already forgotten where i picked this up so take it with a massive grain of salt. not going to look through /who/ to find it
It doesn't look like people are talking about NijiEN6 in here or in the catalouge. Tempus got more engagement than that.
>>28655087>we have girls hereEw
>>28655087Holy shit my dicks are magging
>>28655087So I guess we're watching the Magni guy get /vt/ meme status in real timeDon't know if that will actually translate to good numbers though but at least he has a base
>>28655645hololive board, hololive thread, etc etc
>>28655645holoboard
>>28655443So, male Anya?
>>28655645>/vt/ mattering>/#/ mattering
>>28655637I knew they were dead on arrival, but jesas christ
>>28655604No. I will stream Skyrim, random indie kusoge, Zelda, and visual novels. And you WILL like it.
>>28655637Yes anon, pandering to the alphabet crowd on Twitter is the new meta.
>>28655645No shit. Nobody fucking care about another Niji wave here. They are everything 4chan hateTempus is everything 4chan love
>>28654115She will pass Gura. The chosen one has finally come.
>>28654367>Vox Lmao dude .... Vox isn't a 5views anymore , he dead , The " Gura killer cure " killed him
>>28655637Seriously, is "being gay" their entire personality?
>>28655637CREATIVE FREEDOM HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>28655712We actually watch streams though. There are the 20k people who like every Tweet Vox makes when he fucking streams?
>>28655637Who asked?Seriously, WHO?
>>28655807yeah, but the board is like 1k people man
>>28655735They need to top the Pavonashi sexcation then
>>28653199Bae is the reason hololive has a 1 month Collab ban, I can't remember one good Bae moment where she wasn't in a Collab why would people even follow her for solo content? Meanwhile Fauna is great at that and make her fanbase be obsessed about her
>>28648113>this is what happens when your coworkers actually care about youlmao say that to Mayuzumi Kai and Melissa Kinrenka
https://twitter.com/magnidezmond/status/1549594957463244801oh no
>>28655014I graduated with a Bachelor in Marine Biology last year. I'm currently working on my Master in Advanced Fauna Studies
>>28655604They unironically need EN3 to inject some life into the branch. There's simply not enough excitement on a weekly basis on the HoloEN side to maintain a big audience, especially when Gura decides to take a random 1 week break. On the JP side, literally every week has events or big collabs. Meanwhile, on the EN side, we have days when no one even streams.
https://twitter.com/TsukikoIchinose/status/1549550811834974208?t=pViP24qkWmk8WCZQDknFcg&s=19
Looks like it ended up on Mumei's channel.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFjuKhG2Hzc
>>28655645Tempus has lore and there's no voice on their PV. It makes people complaining about Omega again, and start speculating who they were.
>>28655996JESAS
>Vox - Gura killer - Killed by Kobo>Salome - Gura killer - killed by Pekora Who want the "Gura cure" next ?
>>28655996Jesus fucking christ how fucking fast
Why does /#/ obsess over Niji when VShojo is obviously the real competitor to Hololive?
>>28655645All the people who care about NijiEN are talking about it on twitter. This board was always going to greet them with contempt anyways.
>>28655087that's ame. magni is brother watson confirmed
>>28655996jesas that was fucking fast wtf fujos
>>28655996I kneel to women, they're so much more dedicated to vtubers its unreal.
>>28656030Anon it'll be multi POV
>>28654367I view the EN scene more like chess or the traditional isekai/fantasy story.Chess:>QueenGura>RookKronii, Mumei>BishopIna, Fauna>ChevalierAme, Mori>Pawneveryone elseFanasy/Isekai>Demon KingGura>Four GeneralsKronii, Mumei, Ina, Fauna
>>28655712We're the 4th largest western vtuber community behind Twitter, Reddit, and Facebook.
>>28655478pretty much, it's a pretty good example, if you use those 2 it's also a good idea to check out their median history, it's pretty telling about this too, like koyo managed to increase her median a whole ass 4k in these 8 months by being really smart about her channel while iroha started way over her and just crashed hers with stupid management and it's now just returning to her starting point, and they're now getting similar numbers for minecraft, but iroha got way better numbers for vods, 3Ds and songs, which is indicative of her ceilingin the case of EN, fauna would be koyo and iroha would be mumei, just with swapped subs
>>28655637
>>28655645This is a holoboard. It's the same way no one talks about Luxiem all that much /here/ or on reddit, just because popularity isn't evident in a certain place doesn't mean it isn't there. Luxiem found the asian/chinese market, and these guys... well maybe there's a chance the lowest common demominator of twitter was itching for this kind of thing
>>28656098A man made HoloCure, the greatest vtuber fan project ever.
>>28655976I also major in Advanced Fauna Studies.
>>28656119They said it was going to be single POV. And that it would either be on Bae's channel or Mumei's
>>28656176Honestly, how has pekora not been canceled?
>>28655996I kneel
>>28649015cope
>>28655807They’re all chinks aka not real people.
TIK TOK HOLOKEKS
>>28654923There kobokek timestamp army They wait timestamp comment to watch joke+ interesting part on vod
>>28656197Anon...
>>28655942NO STOP YOU CAN'T KEEP GETTING EVEN MORE BASED. HOW CAN ANYONE EVEN COMPETE
>google trendswhat a blast from the past
>>28655980I agreeThey need another superstar to anchor big crowds besides Gura (who is my oshi but she just doesn't stream enough lately)Kronii could have been the EN second star but she doesn't want the role and self-sabotaged it, so hopefully whoever becomes the blue woman of EN3 is ambitiousAs both a viewer and numberfag I'm looking forward to EN3, they better not fuck it up
>>28656197>he doesn't know
>>28656226Nousagi run 5ch and they also run this place which is the 2 drama center of Vtubing world
>>28656343I remember Nijisanji used to wreck Hololive in Google Trends like two years ago.
>>28656358Council star is bae!
>>28655996>5 hours>only 75 likesit's over...https://www.tiktok.com/@tsukiko_ichinose/video/7122237037582912814at least the tiktok has slightly more views but it's not much
>>28655996Fujos... I kneel...
>>28656343Well, google trends is great for showing trends and trends only
>>28656326>bullying someone>based It's not based. Bullying isn't cool.
> 100+ IP> NA midnight10% of magni's roommate's fans are raiding 4ch or something?
>>28656452I don't even know who that is but I have FOMO so I just copy what other anons are posting about.
>>28656226She's too powerful. Unironically though part of it is the half of the stuff that could actually get her cancelled got yeeted during the Holocaust and when the zhangs dug it up to try to cancel her during the Great Exodus from zhangland everybody rushed in to defend the Holos because of course they would.
>>28656226Because..
what is mooms stream, is it more joke models
>>28655659We do too, anon. Theirs just happen to be friendly.
>>28656452/mag/ is having a party rn but they're in for a rude awakening when they find out he isn't Lando
Hmmhttps://youtu.be/bFjuKhG2Hzc
>>28654115dont tell me she will pass pekora and marine to 2M
>>28656206God I hope they don't do proximity micsIt blows when they do single or limited PoVs for 3d streams with proximity micst. chumbud who can never actually hear anything Gura is saying in a 3d
homoEN 24h subs vs wave 6
>>28655980EN3 just needs an actual organizer. Kiara and Ame are the only ones who bother organizing events and those two have been doing it for 2 years and I won't be surprised if they're burnt out.
>>28656584I thought this was gonna be the ender dragon fight? What's this about a debut?
>>28656651no
>>28656578They don't care if he really is Lando or not. But the rrat really makes the thread more hype than usual
>>28656296Tik tok niji
>>28656584>7PM ESTNot exactly primetime but close enough
>>28656655oops I got the wrong pic. real homostars 24h
>>28656681Probably smol 3D council, similar to myth
>>28656651for the nth time she won't, peko and marine are projected for the end of august, kobo is projected for the start of november, current projections have her 2 days after salami tho, so she could beat her
>nijiES happened before holoESthis is the real killer move
>>28656681anon the ender dragon fight already happened, this is smoll debut
>>28656655>>28656740It's over...
>>28654367More accurate would beHoloEN first army>GuraSecond army>Kronii,Mumei,Fauna,InaWill the EN3 fill in with Gura's lonely palace or will it be Tempus
>>28656358I feel like if Kronii had an ounce of ambition and wasn't cursed to overlap with Irys and Bae for eternity, she could've been big, but this woman arguably has more issues than Gura when it comes to inconsistency.The people who bitch about oversaturation and cannabalization don't realize that HoloEN isn't even close to that yet, most of the members just don't stream stuff that people are excited to watch so it's a stack of debuff streams overlapping. We all thought ID was saturated until Kobo shattered the barrier and introduced new people into the market, that's what debuts are for.NijiEN accelerating works out in the end because they add 2-3k new people every member. While it's true that it's individually a shit number, it's still a net gain in audience. Any day Vox and Mysta take a break and Alban gets to sneak in a 7k minecraft stream in CN time is a good thing for NijiEN and boy are there are lot of days of open timeslots in HoloEN for EN3 to take advantage of.
>>2865665580K debut for nijiEN wave 630-40k tops for starsEN
>>28656801They already debuted an ES, and it flopped.
>>28656801LATAM is unironically the most worthless market in the world among developed and developing continents.
>>28656801Trust me, you don't want a spanish brancht. spic
>>28656445Lol if you consider that bullying you need to go back to gradeschool
Having Lando, Randon and Jordan Sweeto in NijiEN6 is such a boon for NijiEN brand.
>>28656801hope you enjoy our worthless currency
>>286568405xblue loli and we will never see NijiEN anymore
>>28656226You do know what she do before Hololive right? She know all too well how schizos and anti operate
>>28656164Yeah this is kind of why, I'd still take Iroha over Koyori. She has a 20k ceiling over her, and if she just manages her scheduling and content selection well she's comfortably a 10k streamer.
>>28656801don't doom her to the same fate as reimu
>>28656801Hololive still have Korean market waiting for them
>>28656801lmao they wont enter a new market after ID/KR
>>28656957but niji already conquered the KR anon
>>28656852This is why I always laugh at people who talk shit about acceleration like they know the business.Cover is actually losing by not debuting more. I think the EN side might fall into NijiEN real soon.
>>28656652Mumei just said that they'll have camera people help them and that it won't really be anyone's pov.
>>28656801Reimu...
>>28656948NTA, but I think Koyori over Iroha is a no brainer. Koyori has been hosting a morning show for months now that still gets 11k, which is more than what Iroha gets normally for streams.Also, Koyori loves to schedule events and collabs that engage the holobox, which means that while Iroha has a higher ceiling for a singular event like a 3D live, you're get much more 40-50k streams with Koyori because she's actually ambitious about organizing hype content.Koyori's channel is dead for songs tho I agree.
>>28656655there's only 1 male so they're not really competing for the same audience are they
>>28656801I think if she fails to capture a significant ES fanbase we can consider HoloES done and dusted for lack of a market
>>28656948thing is tho, being good at managing is also part of being a good streamer, it's just not recognized too much, like who says iroha doesn't just go back to being dumb again, right now the only thing she's doing is spamming minecraft, that could be enough for her since this is hololive, but imagine what happens when splatoon 3 comes out
>>28657176There's three males, one femboy and one trap.
So NijiEN has the CN market, the ES market, the SEA market while HoloEN only has KR market. That's kinda low for the first movers.
>>28656878Nope.
>>286566551 male 5 females? I thought it was 3:3
>>28657180That's like abandoning the idea of releasing holoID3 because nijiID failed miserably.
>>28657222oh...
>>28657257Kyo and Aster are male.
>>28656852Did Kronii ever do something good content material with her voice? As far as I observed she's better than some average gamer but we all know she was originally VA, I've never heard Kronii doing something special and potentially popular content with her voice ever or maybe I'm not just too deep in the rabbit hole and I didn't know
>>28657014Anyway this is why nobody takes nijiniggers seriously
>>28657013RumaoHoloEN have more ₩ superchat than NijiKR
>>28657013yeah took it over so hard they closed down their KR branch
>>28657014And I laugh at mouth breathers like you who think acceleration is good. Hololive has proved time and time again that carefully building a box is far better than throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks.
>>28657014>Cover is actually losing by not debuting more. I think the EN side might fall into NijiEN real soonI agree that it isn't the right call for Cover to stall EN3, the market hasn't been filled yet. But EN side falling into NijiEN is unlikely, at least in the next 6 months, The brand power for Hololive is still too strong. It's really a matter of HoloEN picking up the slack and actually streaming, the market will only slip from them if they let it happen
I wonder how Koreans would react to a virtual kpop Hololive group
>>28656226Because jungangs are nousagis now and nobody messed with jungang
>>28657230>Bad bunnyshit taste
31k after 6 hours for the highest nijiEN
>>28657415He pulls numbers that's all I'm saying
>>28657014>Cover is actually losing by not debuting more. This is true. Council's hype ran out months ago and it doesn't help that Sana was a non-entity for most of it.>I think the EN side might fall into NijiEN real soon.This is delusional and will never happen. Luxiem is NijiEN's only advantage right now and they're not close to HoloEN in the west. Migration won't happen because of completely separate audiences too.
>>2865701420 2kshitters wont make it better.
>>28657222Are they aiming for the rainbows this time? Quite fitting for their name, I guess.
Nui koushien....
>>28657483i mean, it wont for their floors, but it unironically increases the ceiling for branch events
>>2865748320 x 2k is 40k viewers that they wouldn't have if they debuted nothing.
https://www.youtube.com/c/Zylbrad/featuredLooks like this is Axel. Almost all signs point to it.>Really good Apex player>No VODs for 2 months>Australia>https://twitter.com/axelsyrios/status/1549411960323973120>Sleeping at 11AM EST, which would be nighttime for AUS
>>28657516THey've been aiming for the alphabet people from the beginning, anon.
>>28657323She did thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh_em1MvhgkOtherwise no, she doesn't take advantage of it to be harsh but honest Kronii isn't that great a VA, but her voice is pleasant enough where people will listen regardless
>>28657516They've always aimed for the LGBTQ crowd, before they got actual LGBTQ members. Now they're just giving the fanbase more of what they want. Whether or not this fanbase alienates the rest of the fans or if they show up to streams is a different matter.
>>28657373Vox and Salome happen, both mogged your holowhoresnice box btw with Council and irys
>>28657323Didn't Kronii used to get a ton of SC for reading out random voice lines?I don't watch her but I remember people talking about that after her debut, no idea if she still does that.
>>28657453And the numbers he pulls are all from people playing his shit tier songs at parties with adblock on on repeat
>>28657575>2.6m substhe fuckno way
>>28657549what happened, is she getting rolled on luck or something
>>28657632you cant ignore noctyx and all those VTA debuts