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>HoloEN greatly respects their senpai
>NijiEN has zero respect for even the daisenpai
What causes this discrepancy?

>> No.23656850

>>23656727
Are you genius? I'm genius. - Mito

>> No.23656881

Its called being based.
Seniority autism should be kept in JP

>> No.23656898

what's the appeal of mito?

>> No.23656951

>>23656727
KEK i love mito

>> No.23657026

>Holo
>respects their senpai too much to the point of you can't do fun things with her and make her feel ostracized

>> No.23657079

looks like OP doesn't know Mito at all

>> No.23657081
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>>23656898
she's based and somehow the only chuuba who managed to transfer NND humour to YouTube successfully

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>>23656727
everyone kneels to mitomito

>> No.23658768

>>23657026
Assuming you refer to Sora which in this case perfectly sums her up. Motherfuckers treat her like a fragile princess

>> No.23658897

>>23658768
Don't act like she doesn't want that either.

>> No.23659501

Post timestamp so we can laugh too anon

>> No.23661724

>>23656727
nijien calls some other irrelevant whore daisenpai last time i heard

>> No.23662042

>>23656727
>Holofans thank YAGOO for following Sora and A-chan's plan to create a vtuber idol group called Hololive and build monuments and statues in his likeness
>nijiniggers and their livers make jokes about Riku looking like a spoiler kid with a punchable face despite him being responsible for creating their favorite vtuber group
they're shameless people

>> No.23662436

>>23662042
theyre trying to make him a meme like yagoo is, but theyre failing hard and disrespecting him at the same time kek

>> No.23662521

>>23656727
>Zero respect
It's called a joke you faggot, I'm sorry you're too autistic to understand what real people interacting look like

>> No.23662634

>>23656727
seethe
https://twitter.com/MitoTsukino/status/1521801462388764672

>> No.23662697
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>senpai kouhai autism

>> No.23662728

>>23662436
>disrespecting him
Are you an unironic bootlicker

>> No.23663099

>>23656727
did you close the tab when she visited the ID server like the self-hating SEAnig you are

>> No.23666357

>>23657026
That's not respect, it's fear

>> No.23666995

>>23656727
Selen is a disgusting fat píece of shit

>> No.23667044

>>23657081
>NND humor
I always thought she seemed nice, but this may make me check out her stuff.

>> No.23667074

>>23656727
Retard fat fuck no respect

>> No.23667190

>>23656727
Other than Selen, I think they were trying to leech

>> No.23667215

>>23656727
HoloEN got to leech of the audience HoloJP created for them, damn right they should respect them.

NijiEN built an audience off their own efforts without it being handed to them.

>> No.23667805

>>23667215
This is true. I'd change NijiEN to Luxiem, but otherwise I completely agree.

>> No.23671452

>>23662436

riku loves his memes and has often responded to them or retweeted them

>> No.23671607

>>23656727
Hololive has higher standards so they get a higher caliber of individuals.

>> No.23671649

>>23656727
Jap senior/junior autism should stay in japan.

>> No.23671745

>treat outsider like she's part of the group instead of awkward stilted politeness
>feeble nip minds think this is bad somehow

>> No.23671753

>>23667215
>>23667805
I think anons really take for granted how easy it could have been for Anycolor to fuck up the branch, but also how impressive it is thay they were able to build an independent fanbase from both hololive and Nijisanji JP.

>> No.23671768

>pomu tries to make the new waves call her daisenpai
>3 streams later begging people to never say it again because the JPs got mad at her
It was a funny stream. I think it was elden ring? Was awhile ago but I happened to open it up when she started going on a rant about how people can't call her that anymore because "someone" feels disrespected about it.

>> No.23671771

>>23656727
Need a clip.

>> No.23671803

>>23658768
>you will never break that fragile princess with your cock

>> No.23671842

>>23662042
BULLYSANJI

>> No.23671847

>>23657081
>NND humour
NND was never fucking funny you all just had a shit sense of humor when you were younger

>> No.23672038

>>23656727
BASED. Mito is overrated trash.

>> No.23672150

>>23656727
Oh No, Emperor forbid we banter with our predecesors.

>> No.23672238

>>23671768
>elden ring
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP4nMSTdwU1KqYWu3UH5DHQ/search?query=elden%20ring
>no elden ring streams
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

>> No.23672679

>>23672238
That's why I said I thought it was.
I was probably watching noel or hayama play ER at the time or something.

>> No.23672766

>>23672679
And you weren't watching Pomu either. She never said anything about making people call her daisenpai.

>> No.23672823

>>23672766
ahh the classic nijiEN cope
>someone explains in detail something that happened on stream
>get a minor detail wrong
>YOU DIDNT WATCH! THREAD READER! HOLOFALSEFLAG!

>> No.23672935

>>23672823
>get a minor detail wrong
More like "made up bullshit".

Anyway, I wasn't even referring to the ER part, I was referring to this part
>pomu tries to make the new waves call her daisenpai
This never happened.

>> No.23673322

>>23671847

dont worry EOP kun, its a common mistake to not understand japanese jokes when you dont know japanese

>> No.23675563

>>23671607
>Mumei
>Fauna

>> No.23675607

>>23657088
And the context is added.

>>23658768
This.

>> No.23679174

>>23675563
>Calliope
>Sana
FTFY

>> No.23679398

>>23672935
>>23672238
>pomu tries to make the new waves call her daisenpai
what the fuck? Pomu would never do this what is this fucking silly retarded lie

>This never happened.
seriously how stupid is this guy, at least make it believable

>>23667190
Pomu was not trying to leech she got up like 4 hours or more earlier than she should have just because she loves Mito.

>> No.23679407

>>23672823
>lie
>get called out for lying
>ah the classic cope
Are you by some chance retarded

>> No.23679569

I want to marry Mito the goblin queen.

>> No.23679646

>>23673322
Sure my japanese isn't as good as it used to be, but I was born in chiba and spent most my life there so I guarantee my japanese back then was better than yours was.

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>>23656727
>Able to banter with your senpai
>Able to banter with your kouhai
>build real friendships this way and not fake corporate bullshit ''friendship'' ''WE'RE ALL FRIENDS''
NijiCHADJI more like it.

>> No.23682740

>>23671753
True, you could see it when there was nearly 10k watching the girls sleepover offcollab at the same time hofes was streaming

>> No.23683962

>>23656727
NijiEN is just a bunch of shameless ungrateful people, why act so surprised?
What? Based? LMAO
nope

>> No.23684491

>>23679174
I care so little about Mori I forget about her but at least Sana is single

>> No.23684594

>>23671768
elira said it as a joke off handedly one time and her chat kept calling her the EN daisenpai as a joke and she told her viewers later on that she didn't like it even as a joke and felt it was disrespectful to others. There was 0 mention of it from Japanese audiences.

>> No.23689818

>>23656727
based

>> No.23690745

>>23656727
They don't have daisenpai because the earlier livers probably graduated already

>> No.23691129

>>23656727
She just tested NijiEN
they knew they fucked up lol

>> No.23691798

>>23681136
this but unironically

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>>23656727
>Maybe
Chad Selen strikes again

>> No.23695112

>>23667215
Are you the retard who acts like Nijisanji JP shouldn't be respected even though NijiEN only could exist because JP has been successful for years in asia to be able to create an overseas branch?>>23671753
Anon.. thats how it works. Most JP audience are JP so yeah.

>> No.23695152

>>23690745
Literally all of the early ones are still active.

>> No.23695333

>>23682740
The offcollab was great but let's not pretend most people actually watch holofes in real time instead of pirating it afterwards considering how ridiculously overpriced it is to watch an online event.

>> No.23695536

>>23690745
The majority of 2018 debuts are still active.

>> No.23695565

>>23662042
Do we really have so many newfags on this board that no anon remembers the Holo Minecraft festival last summer?

>> No.23695623

>>23671607
This has to be bait, nobody can be this fucking stupid.

>> No.23695670

>>23681136
holy based
fuck “work friendships”

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>>23656727
They probably think it's funny, any drama = clicks

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>>23681136
>women
>banter
There's a reason why we have 2views on twitter having mental breakdowns about fake friends in the vtubing community.
They are all western thots who do the same "bantering"

Women don't banter, it is a poison to them, they let peoples comments live rent free in their head and it causes them to fixate on how to get them back for it

>> No.23695976

>>23695829
Yeah, I prefer streams to be boring and dull and linear

>> No.23695990

>>23656898
sex

>> No.23696116

>>23658768
She will be treated like a goddess whether she wants to or not.

>> No.23696135

>>23695976
Nip senpai/kouhai culture can be a bit exhausting, but there is a big middle ground between senpai tax and making a joke about your coworker having a dead, dying channel and having to apologize for it and delete VoDs

>> No.23696238

>>23696135
Nina didn't apologize and didn't delete her VOD

>> No.23696379

>>23696238
Nina did apologize on stream and pomu deleted the VoD
Niji clippers who made videos of the clip were asked to take it down

>> No.23696448

>>23671753
Not until the males came and cracked the fujos market did the girls still have to eating on Holo tourists. Say what you want about the chink but they actually made NijiEN thriving.

>> No.23696494

>>23696379
Nina didn't apologize, and Pomu privated her stream before any sort of apology (nothing to apologize for)

>> No.23696610

>>23679646
>diaspora jap
Post passport or it didn't happen.

>> No.23696747

>>23671452
Ahem..
https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/mark-facebook-zuckerberg-eye-sauron-nickname-b2050358.html

>> No.23696853

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_XjY12cRiw
I get the impression from NijiEN that they understand and respect the relationship when being completely serious. But they just don't take it so far that you aren't even allowed to interact with those people normally and have fun with them like they were anyone else.

>> No.23697063

>>23696853
Mito and the rest of Nijisanji's first gen built the company culture of not taking senpai/kouhai relationship too seriously and treating the gens that came after them as their equals when it comes to bantering. If their first gen weren't such shitposters and NND memelords it'd have a much more stuffy and corporate environment, kinda like Hololive. It's one thing to respect your senpais but you still need to consider their feelings, being too considerate and treating them like walking gods makes people uncomfortable. It's really a shame Sora never got to break out of that daisenpai identity no matter how hard she tries to make genuine friends.

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https://twitter.com/MitoTsukino/status/1521895265158197248

Mito plans to return! she had lots of fun!

https://youtu.be/VWP8UOyy2rU?t=3415
tour starts here

she also called selen her goddess afterwards for contacting her personally to join EN server!

more JPs are also getting motivated to interact with EN more, selen is organizing more stuff with nagao apparently, also amamiya being toured by luca was a great experience too! connecting the servers was a great idea, EN and JP are slowly but surely getting a little more interconected as time passes on now.

>> No.23697225

>>23697063
Wave*

>> No.23697271

>>23656727
nijiniga entitlement

>> No.23697276

>>23697177
EN isn't actually connected to the other servers since it's not officially owned by Nijisanji, Finana owns it. Selen had to whitelist Mito and Finana whitelisted Amamiya right before their streams.

>> No.23697362

>>23697276

yeah I know, but it was the connection of ID/KR/JP servers what prompted them to contact finana to let them into EN, most tour streams are about exploring ID/KR/JP then finana or selen contact them to go to EN too, so its sort of related even if there is no portal put on the center. they likely wouldnt visit EN if it wasnt for the original idea.

>> No.23697520

>>23697276
I wonder why they need finana to edit the whitlelist. Surely she's not actually hosting it on her computer and us using something like aws with IAM permissions she can give to management who can edit the necessary items or something.

>> No.23697627

>>23697520
Management work for Nijisanji not for the livers, it's not their job to manage Finana's personal Minecraft server for her. If she wants to involve management she needs to give them control of the server like what happened with the JP server.
She gave Selen admin access though so at the very least there are others who can whitelist.

>> No.23697670

>>23656727
it's not the best example at all because this thread is yet another baitfest but to answer your question it's because holo EN debuted to audience already familiar with holo JP and the culture around it while niji EN started with holo rejects that debuted to tourists that came with holo EN and got bored and later vshojo/twitch indie fans that don't give a fuck. In other words it boils down to nijisanji being relatively unpopular in the West at a time when normies discovered JP Vtubers.

>> No.23697748

>>23656727
Nijisanji members probably watched hololive. They don’t even know who that is.

>> No.23697977

>holobronies trying to stir shit up
>proven wrong
>Act like a retand instead

Can you fag just take the L and move on?

>> No.23698398

>>23696135
>exhausting

I can't think of any example when it actually got in the way of fun though, it's part of what makes Japanese corporate Vtubers more interesting than indies that tend to act just like regular twitch streamers with avatars. In this regard niji EN feels kinda meh, they keep acting like indies which makes it more generic, also I have a strong zoomer vibes from pretty much all of them, I bet their audience is also younger on average and at this point probably pretty twitch normie too.

>> No.23698782

>>23697670
It isn't really like that at all though. If anything the way NijiEN act is relatively close to the culture in NijiJP in my experience. When the topic is being addressed in a serious fashion they will be respectful of those that come before them but if they are just streaming normally together they generally speaking aren't going to act hugely different towards a senpai unless its for some common vtuber gag like senpai powerhara or something.

>> No.23698941

>>23656727
Oh for fucks sake, let Nips keep their senpai wank and dont force it down the throat of the west.

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>>23656727
Based, putting rhetoric pity beggars back into their place

>> No.23699065

>>23696116
>a goddess with my dick

>> No.23699160

>selen says mito is retarded
>pomu starts getting mad
She is such a wet blanket in a "middle class white girl" kind of way.

>> No.23699195

>>23656727
it is my personal opinion that world would be a better place if everyone adapted japans seniority system

>> No.23699230

>>23699195
Then you don't know the issues it causes - it has way more negatives than positives

>> No.23699235

>>23656727
>HoloEN greatly respects their senpai
They don't even call anyone senpai anymore unless its Kiara or Ina talking to the JP girls

>> No.23699265

>>23699195
>can't go home from work before your seniors even if your shift is over / you finished work

>> No.23699421

>>23696853
Of course it's the girl with the JP heritage that gets uncomfortable about disrespecting senpai.

>> No.23699988

>>23698941
Nips loved Pomu and Selen's interactions with Mito, it's literally just holobronies pretending to be mad about it.

>> No.23700370

>>23699160
Pomu begged Selen to stop ruined her image seen she’s already dead

>> No.23700401

>>23681136
>''WE'RE ALL FRIENDS''
more realities compared to
>WE'RE ALL FAMILY

>> No.23700503

>>23656727
>>HoloEN greatly respects their senpai
DYRB

>> No.23700688

>>23656727
Twitch streamers pls andastan

>> No.23700737
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>>23662042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo2Pf-efN_w

does Yagoo have a 3D debut, merch and SIX DIFFERENT OUTFIT REVEALS?
I DIDN'T THINK SO.

>> No.23700751

>>23656727
I remember when anon said Selen respect a talented streamer, where the fuck are you now?

>> No.23700976

>>23700737
Funny because Yagoo is actually loved by holofags, but has no merch cause he's a humble chad, meanwhile Riku is a lolcow, loved by no one and yet has merch cause he's an egotistical faggot

>> No.23701112

>>23700976
If nobody loves him, then why did his merch sell?

>> No.23701148

>>23701112
Why did sonichu merch sell?

>> No.23701174

>>23701148
nfc who that is, but obviously someone must have cared enough to buy it

>> No.23701195

>>23700976
He should be humble. He's the CEO of a much smaller, not yet IPO'd, company.

>> No.23701350

>>23700976
>Funny because Yagoo is actually loved by holofags
do redditors really? jesus christ

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>>23701350
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

>> No.23705629

>>23656727
Mito knows self-deprecating humour and Selen's just playing along. Kinda Based desu.

>> No.23708821

>>23702205
Is that why he got rid of his top 2 earners? He was jealous?

>> No.23709908

>>23702205
Then why do i see the same posts crying about Luxiem success every fucking day? Oh yeah, because Vox made more than double the money of your top girl and you fags can't stop crying about it for 2 minutes

>> No.23710470

> they can't stop seething
roru rumao

>> No.23710926

>>23656727
Sine when did EN respect their senpais? Most of them have repeatedly shat on JP and ID’s legacies since they debuted.

>> No.23713457

>>23662634
Brings tears to my eyes.

>> No.23714227

>>23656727
It is not that HoloEN respect their senpai. They are just too socially retarded to even talk to their senpais unless they ask first

>> No.23718676
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3 more days

>> No.23718782

>>23696494
Correct, Nina did not apologize and just said it's on others to use safewords when she says something they don't like. The leechwhore doesn't cares about her coworkers at all.

>> No.23718896

>respect for their senpai’s
Don’t you guys constantly make posts about Calli not respecting her senpai’s in JP what changed?

>> No.23718949

>>23699160
And then she told Mito Selen is the biggest idiot in EN kek

>> No.23718996

>>23702205
Correct. That's why Yagoo is trying to speedrun EN Holostars after seeing Luxiem's success.

>> No.23721332

>>23657026
I fucking hate when they do this shit so much.
Miko is the worst for it. She used to hang out with her so much before without things being awkward, then suddenly something changed and she treats her like some untouchable goddess.
FUCKING STOP.
Daisenpai-ism is a cancer in Japan. It ruins everything.

>> No.23722849

>>23658768
That's not because she's the senpai, but because she has a very fragile personality

>> No.23723180

>>23684594
And THAT'S why I won't cry for her when she gets lynched or worse like the (half-)nigger she is.

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>>23656898
she's la creatividad (el japones)

>> No.23724201

>>23723958
Nice.

>> No.23725583

>>23656898
she likes ryona

>> No.23726402

>>23656727
Petra and Schu respect their senpais.

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