/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Who?

are they just going to shit out a new gen every 2 months?

>>9905521
Won't be Wave 3. Debuts are on Saturday, but NijiEN has normal streams scheduled for Saturday.
And they didn't say it will be a "big" announcement, just an announcement. Probably voicepacks for Obsydia.

>>9905701
It's the Nijisanji way

>>9905701
I mean, that's literally their business model in Japan. Shit out new gens. Only give them an Iphone. Don't pay them and hope something sticks.

Finana already spoiled wave 3 anyway while denying it like 2 weeks ago.

>>9905521
>>9905771 is probably right. Someone asked Rosemi when they could ask her to say something and she went "Sooner than you think ;)".
3 months between gens has been about right for their overseas branches, at least at first, so expect wave 3 next month. They'll probably slow down when they reach ~20 chuubas though.

>>9905790
I feel like the "swim or die" method, while cost-saving, is probably the reason Anycolor makes less than Cover in terms of absolute income.

Nan, its probably the announcement for a collab with HoloEN, Kiara and Pomu have been hinting at it for a while now.

>>9906153
Selen collabing with any of the EN girls would be a dream come true.

>>9905936
>20 nijiens

I feel like right now 6 is a party but 10 or whatever is going to be kind of hard to manage between them. The girls have chemistry together but it gets harder to maintain when you've got Pomu and 19 other people to fuck around with.

I guess they could do big retarded collabs though, but since the nijien girls are already kind of retarded I don't know how a 0 IQ collab would work with 20 people with 0 IQ.

>>9906153
Would be weird to hype an external collab so much, like good for them but it's not main channel collab level

>>9906240
they'll add 4 next gen right? how many for male gen?

>>9905993
I feel like the fact that you don't understand that Anycolor is a business with several non Nijisanji branches like a fucking host club and Cover is just some random startup that doesn't know how to invest its income into anything is the reason you think this.
If Nijisanji earns less how come they have way more concerts, way more live shows, way more merch, way more advertisements, and way more events?

>>9905521
>I'm pretty sure Nijisanji En is going to announce Wave 3 at this event since it been two months since the last one.
Isn't that like WAAAY too soon, they just opened auditions a few months ago the first two waves had already been caste pre debut, it's probably going to take a good 6 months or more until wave 3 since they've nothing in store now

>>9906503
Cause it's cheap for them to do it since they don't pay their streamers. And Japs are slaves to their employers and will just agree to anything.

>>9906214
Will she drop her spaghetti when she meets her oshi though? I couldn't be as bad as Nyanners with Kiara, right?

>>9906153
>collabing with orange woman
Welp, another vtuber to add to the "dead to me" list.

>>9906433
This wouldn't be like collabing with some random indi, bro

>>9906534
It won't be that far out, since the models are already done. It's not going to be announced today though, it'll be next month, for Halloween.

>>9906580
If you think Cover's salary is big or livable or a dent on any of their earnings you have to be brain damaged.

>>9906534
That not how Nijisanji roll my dude it either going to be this month or next. I'm pretty sure this is an good time since it cuts off Hololive En 2 popular from the brand new thing and gives it to Nijisanji wave 3.

>>9906503
I literally mentioned the fact they have a low cost basis, leading to poor support for their streamers which leads to poorer results than companies investing more into their streamers.

And Anycolor specifically earns less than Cover, regardless of other ventures Anycolor has. This isn't up for debate, it's literally publicly available in their earnings reports.

>>9906240
I mean... That's fine, Isn't it?
They don't have to all be close friends. A Nijisanji branch being made of overlapping social circles instead of one big one is business as usual.

>>9906594
Who exactly is her oshi anyway?

>>9906594
>>9906214
Selen with Gura is the one that makes the most potential for memes, the other girls wouldn't play as well with Selen's constant laughter.

>>9906534
Nah. I don't think they're announcing it this soon, but the only reason Waves 1 and 2 took so long were that they needed to set up a bunch of infrastructure. Now that that's done 3-ish months from auditions to debut will be fine.

>>9905993
>Anycolor makes less than Cover in terms of absolute income
>Source: Just Trust Me Bro

>>9906845
Yeah but I like their current dynamics.

>>9906772
Nijifags are all kinds of delusional huh

>>9906877
I think her past life was a chumbud, but obviously she hasn't mentioned that as Selen.
She was the one who called out Gura's original emotes as being traced, for context

>>9906467
Who knows, they didn't show any models or anything unlike with wave 3, so we have no idea how many we will get exactly, though given the current trend, 3 is probably the most likely amount.

>>9906969
Source: Lurk more unironically since it was posted in the last 3 days you retarded newfaggot.

>>9906946
What rate did the ID and KR branches start debuting vtubers?
I'd imagine the EN rate would be around the same if not faster.

>>9907021
No, she merely knew the artist who was traced and wanted to help them. She's a Korone fan and a NijiJP clipwatcher in her past life

Please don't introduce males

>>9905701
Sure, why not. It's what nijisanji does. I think it can be good and bad. Nijisanji being so spread out does allow for some incredibly niche talents to flourish, like Amemori Sayo for example.

>>9907021
>chumbud
Selen doesn't follow her on twitter. In fact the only EN she seems to follow is Ame. So if any EN girls would get a collab it'd be her.

>>9907215
ManjisanjiEN

>>9907042
>>9906467
Probably didn't show any because they'd like to have 4 or 5 (to balance the genders a bit), but they genuinely don't know if they'll be able to find that many.

>>9906153
>>9906214
I hope NijiEN males get added soon and HoloEN starts ghosting NijiEN as a whole over it, or just ghosting the males awkwardly. Would be hilarious. Ya boy mori would ghost them because they aren't 4' 5'' shota's.
>>9907215
I really want Males that are good. I fucking hate the , "TEE HEE NO BOYS ALLOWED" shit.

Anybody think they will announce some male chuubas? Especially with Kuzuha being so popular in Japan. They did accept male auditions, though they might have gone straight in the trash just like when Cover says they accept male auditions.

>>9907261
You can keep trying to make this catch on, but it never will

Either a new wave debut announcement or they have some sort of project a lot of EN is participating in.

>>9907343
Nijisanji doesn't have teehee no boys allowed shit you fucking Holofaggot

>>9907215
God, i don't envy the first gen of NijiEN males. Like, i'm rooting for them and i hope everything works out, but it's such a weird position to be in. They're going to be the first male big corporate western vtubers, it's sure to attract a lot of attention, not all of it good.

>>9906846
>it's literally publicly available in their earnings reports.
link? because all of the Anycolor report in the /#/ thread was from last year

>>9907343
> I really want Males that are good. I fucking hate the , "TEE HEE NO BOYS ALLOWED" shit.

this. Give me a chuuba who's voice I can actually listen too outside my room without being called a pedo.

>>9907355
They LITERALLY did male-ONLY auditions, dummy. Wave 4 is confirmed to be males.

>>9907355
>They did accept male auditions, though they might have gone straight in the trash just like when Cover says they accept male auditions.
Anon...
They didn't just say they were accepting male auditions, they said "Males please apply here for an all male wave we'll be doing". There's no real room for "technically males can apply but they'll just be thrown out" there.

>>9907343
>I really want Males that are good. I fucking hate the , "TEE HEE NO BOYS ALLOWED" shit.
Western men in the vtuber scene is a bad fucking idea. Anyone with half a brain knows this

>>9905701
>Cover had ten girls not even a year apart
>Somehow 10 girls in 6 months is too much
NijiEN are actually allowed to collab and get to know each other, so it works. Sorry about holo counsil though, they do seem better than EN1, its too bad holotribalism applies to their own company

>>9907343
>I really want Males that are good. I fucking hate the , "TEE HEE NO BOYS ALLOWED" shit.
The current EN dyamic is way too good to ruin it with a bunch of males, just like how you don't add women to a male focused group
Look at lain from the most recent Niji branch, she's VERY out of place in their collabs and has the worst numbers since their wave is aimed at women their audience doesn't give a shit about the ponkotsu girl
NijiEN is aimed at males, they gain nothing from introducing males, if they wanted the regular niji audience the waves should have been mixxed from the beginning

>>9907485
Literally the same thing people said about EN chuubas in general.

>>9907261
>manji
GREAT PEACE AND BLESSINGS UPON THE MEN OF NIJISANJI
FAITO!

>>9905701
>are they just going to shit out a new gen every 2 months?
Maybe they will strike gold if they keep digging. I was unhappy with HoloEN2, though Sana is decent. It would be nice if a company kept going to they got someone really good.

>>9907497
>Sorry about holo counsil though, they do seem better than EN1

>>9907485
Ok but have you watched Randon? People really don't give indies a chance. Randon is great.

>>9907530
>she's VERY out of place in their collabs
No.
>and has the worst numbers
She has the most subs. I didn't realize she passed Leos, but guess she did.

>>9905521
staying up till 4 for this if theres no merch drop i’ll commit genocide

>>9907650
actually meant to reply
>>9907451

>>9907485
They'll all be Pakoraito.
I'm only halfway joking too. I'm sure there were a ton of people applying just to get close to the girls.

>>9907689
>She has the most subs. I didn't realize she passed Leos, but guess she did.
Her streams struggle to break past 1k while everyone else pulls 2-5k regularly

>>9907754
This gets brought up every thread, and every thread we explain how it's a self-solving issue. 95% of the people doing that won't have the qualifications as a streamer that Pakoraito had, so they're already out. And the rest, provided they even make it in, will just get shit out like he did. It's a non-issue.

>>9907261
do you even know what this means

>>9907497
Nice tribalism post, nijinigger, but it all translates to "It's okay if my team does it because I support them". I hope you don't regret that decision when they start to hack into each other's fanbases like it did for Niji ID. Pray that I'm wrong in my warning.

>>9907530
Western audiences don’t watch male VTubers as much as females, because it’s gay to them. If NijiEN tries males, it would be bad.

>>9906240
Ok! Just pick a favorite, you don't have to watch them all, hell, if you want you can pick one from each unit

ITT: anons who are such newfags they forgot the time Nijisanji was debuting new people every month

>>9907868
There's a very big audience of western male gays that would be willing to watch actually good male vtubers

>>9907754
That's probably why they gave so much more time for the males (assuming they debut 3 months afer wave 3) lmao. Gives them time to weed those types out.

>>9907910
That hasn't been a thing since 2019, 2020-2021 drastically lowered their output of livers for the better

>>9907916
Western male gays want to watch HRT chugging "males" who do VRchat strip pole dancing not cool anime bros like Hayato.

>>9907916
>There's a very big audience of western male gays
Define "very big"

Unless I'm mistaken, Happy Birthday song is in fact owned by somebody who has made themselves a multi-millionaire by suing everyone who sings it on air.

>>9908032
You didn't have to delete the post, it's a common misconception

>>9907982
No, that's """straight""" men who like traps (but it's not gay bro it's not gay). Gays have more taste.

>>9906845
if they can make the offlinetv social circle to disband then that's good enough for me

Not reading this thread, only posting picture of my cute oshi

>>9908188
>Gays have more taste.
The only taste they have is from the cum in their mouths

>>9907789
>Her streams struggle to break past 1k
lol, you don't watch her but still talking about out of your ass huh?

>>9908256
At least it's cum from better men than trap e-thots.

>>9907445
Anycolor's 2020-2021 report doesn't come out until March next year, so there's nothing to compare at the moment.

>>9908355
Fair point

>>9907045
>it was posted in the last 3 days
Yeah in the shitposter's club

>>9907800
Maybe true for the JP scene but there are far fewer EN male vtubers.
In other words, there aren't that many known safe picks in the EN scene.
Also, didn't one of the larger male vtubers on Twitch already make people mad by getting with some other vtuber?

>>9907497
>Use all branches to compare Cover
>Use only EN branch to compare Anycolor

>>9908518
And let's not forget about that big name DnD streamer who got metoo'd for trying to fuck the girls from his campaign

>>9908188
They seriously do not, not western males in that case.

>>9908640
>>9908518
Where ever I am, I must also dick.

>>9908726
Gays are all over the place, but yes they do like muscular hairy men with facial hair and deep voices.

>>9908834
While that's true they're also hypersexual. Streamers and fans alike. Legitimately cannot go one day without making a sex joke

>>9905993
Anycolor hasn't even released their 2020-2021 report yet, absolutely retarded.

>>9907530
lain is doing her best and i appreciate it

>>9908518
>>9908640
Once again i must quote billy elish : "give an ugly guy a chance and he thinks he rules the world"

>>9907432
That was one of my fears for them too, especially after Anycolor decided to leave them for dead last and segregated, they are going to have an absurdly huge amount of pressure on their shoulders, not only for what you said, but also because of the expectations that Lazulight and Obsydia have been raising and the ones wave 3 seems like it will raise, not to mention how some parts of the fandom may react to males suddenly appearing in their all female group.
The poor guys are gonna have a lot of eyes on them, and a lot of them aren't gonna be very kind, I feel.

>>9907497
>10 girls in 1 year is too fast
>10 girls in 6 months is just right
What kind of faggotry is this

>>9905993
>>9907045
Anycolor's 2020-2021 report hasn't even come out yet fucking retard.

nuxfag should apply to nijien so he can ghost his shit friends and shit channel

>>9908318
Sure mate, keep ignoring her 700 viewers Apex streams or her sub 1k singing streams

>>9909003
Nah, they will get EN Kuzuha and he will give a shit about anti

>>9909113
I doubt we're going to see any of them reach Kuzuha numbers. We're not even there for Hololive EN yet.

>>9907530
>she's VERY out of place in their collabs
Retarded EOP they love her in the collabs, she's the cute sister and they all cheer her on or playfully tease her. It's fucking adorable and you're missing out. Her 51 games collab a month ago with Leos was also cute as fuck, he kept acting cocky but Lain kept owning him in air hockey. Oliver talks about how genki she is when they're in the studio and even Mito said she's adorable.
However all you can understand are her numbers but not even that since she has more subs than Leos. An utter failure of an anon, get off the vtuber board if you can't get anything right.
LAIN LOVE

>Imagine unironically being a tribalfag loyal to a company.
I love me some Holo and some Niji, and plenty of indies and startup company chuubas, too. That makes me better than 95% of this board.

I thought Pomu was holding a condom...

https://twitter.com/Neroshi/status/1437608020989693956

>>9909226
>implying that faggot watch her
lol

>>9909093
post her median number this month then

>>9909226
Watch streams? Here? You think fuckers here watch streams? What kind of joke is this you sick fuck?

>>9909408
I know he doesn't but she gets shit on too much on this board so someone has to set the record straight since all posts surrounding her are just brain damaged numbernigger shitflinging

>>9909003
Well that weird then lol, if you a fan if nijisanji, you should know there males in their group, plus nijiEN interact with Professor Oliver anyway

>>9909203
This post is partially bait but I agree that it's highly unlikely a male EN will be as large as Kuzuha.
Males seem to do much better with no cam or their actual face. Vtuber models actively seem to lose them views.

>>9909670
He isn't a fan he's a Holofag thread reader who doesn't know that not only do they regularly talk to Oliver, they also talk to ID males, AND play around with Suha, and Selen herself played with the fujoyume GOD Kanae and no one has gotten shit for it.

>>9905521
THERE IS A GENERAL YOU ABSOLUTE MONG, WHY CREATE A SPLIT?

I won\t be surprised if we actually get some males tonight apparently an anon leaked he made to the final an month ago

>>9911713
Even then, less than a month from finals to debut is unprecedented. Everyone get's like one to three months to prep, there's also the model creation

>>9911713
It wasn't final it was first interview.

Wave 3 will be announced next month. You're all setting yourself up for disappointment. It's probably Obsydia getting voicepacks or merch or something.

>>9911713
the males are coming in wave 4, so very unlikely

dont know where the idea its a "huge" announcement is coming from the official tweet just said "Tune in for some exciting announcements!"

>>9912384
My guess is obsydia voice packs + something lazulight related. Either with or without obsydia. So maybe a full NijiEN song or something. But it is not only voice packs and merch, because all of the lazulight girls have talked a lot about how bust they have been the last couple of weeks and lots of time recording etc

>>9905521
>huge announcement
yout words, not the NijiENs words

>>9911713
3rd wave is female, this is confirmed.

>>9912529
>lazulight girls have talked a lot about how bust they have been the last couple of weeks and lots of time recording etc
Could be this.

>>9912730
You'd think this would have been out a while ago? If it's just Lazulight doing stuff so far, I could see it finally being ready. Not confident that it would be as entertaining as just normal interaction, though.

Why are people already throwing super chats? Its the official channel, so it wont go to any of the girls anyway.

wtf rosemi voice packs already sold out

>>9913159
Maybe they want to support Nijisanji without giving any to the girls.

>>9913230
Wait really???

>>9906920
The board would be absolutely unusable and filled with leeching accusations

yup we got voice packs https://nijisanji-store.com/

>>9906920
wrong thread, chumfaggot. go watch your has been vtuber in the other thread.

>>9913230
Nah they just aren't officially on sale yet, wait a bit, even Pomu's didn't sell out that fast

>Petra still asleep

>constantly refreshing twitter search with "NIJISANJI EN" to see if new mems pop up

>>9906977
That's the appeal of nijisanji bro.
Their current dynamic won't be changed any. Selen and Elira will continue to interact. But in addition now you'll also have a second circle of friends unrelated to the first also doing their own thing and having a fun dynamic.

wtf?

>tfw have to attend a meeting in 50 minutes
AAAaaaaaa please start already

>>9905521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSAeY1mAvOE
Link it too

>>9913793
are you a eurobro, it's almost midnight here.

>>9913710
>be wosemi
>the only one with Japanese blood
>only knows how to swear

I got scared...

>>9913306
lmao no, even the ones that will sell out will take a few days

>>9907530
To be fair, Lain just sucks in general. Out of her entire Gen she's by far the worst streamer of the bunch. Also I'm salty about her model still
>draw cute punk girl
>She's a generic moeblob
Fuck your gap moe bullshit. Gimme another kaede but more hardcore.

why are selen and finana, the only ones who know no japanese at all, the only girls with kanji in their names

>>9914021
just ninisani being ninisani

>Yea it's me Selen
Based.

wtf elira being bitchy again

>retards sperging about there being no male vtubers again
Literally just check twitch, many of the top are men. The biggest vtuber on twitch outside of mouse is admiral whatshisface, given he has a half female avatar being controlled by a male plushy. He's blatantly male and never implied otherwise (also used to be a face cam streamer but vtuber now)
There's a bunch in the high hundreds ranges too that are men and are fairly popular by indie standards.

Yall don't watch men and that's fine, but they are there and many hang out in the informal indie groups too.

>>9914020
She has the most subs.

>>9914303
Every single popular male has started from an existing fanbase. You fail to state that he's been streaming for over 10 years and is a Twitch oldfag, and only started vtubing in 2021.

>>9907530
The other company is 4 doors to the left. If you're lucky, you could catch one of the JP branch members rushing to the bathroom.

>>9914394
Almost every single popular female vtuber had an existing fan base or past as well.
The ones like vshojo are the rarity and they got into the business extremely early.

Mid-high hundreds is fantastic for indies and you see some men starting from scratch reaching there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSAeY1mAvOE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSAeY1mAvOE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSAeY1mAvOE

>>9907215
>>9905521
>nijisanjiEN introduces males
>full nijiEN collab with females and males
>they all get along well, clearly all good friends at this point
>a small minority of shipfags start shipping the male talent with the female talent
>niji chuubas notice
>start learning into ships on stream
>interactions between females and males become increasingly flirty
>clippers and clipfags alone with shipfags stoke the fires further
>all nijiEN females lose all GFE appeal
>idolfags and purityfags start calling out nijiEN females and harassing males in supachats
>nijiEN females side with the nijiEN males, basically telling their core base to fuck off
>fans get more upset, nijiEN females respond by calling their fans "incels" and saying "fans should evolve with the creator"
>nijiEN videos mass dislike bombed, channels mass unsubbed
>nijiEN females start noticing they are losing their main paypigs
>streams barely financially viable, nijiEN males dead in the water
>after only a few months, nijiEN males announce their graduation
>nijiEN females never incline again, barely break 100-200 live views a video if even that
>nijisanji announces the closing of the nijiEN branch at the end of the year
>Nijisanji never adds males again
>Hololive takes notice so HolostarsEN never becomes a thing
>Holochads keep winning

>>9915004
Nice fanfiction but there's lots of hetships in Nijisanji already. And ID and KR bullyflirt with their guys too.

>>9914020
Most of endengumi just suck after theb
first month.
Leo plays random shit but seems at half energy as he was at the begining hisnchallenges arent that interesting anymore.
Lauren is just apex fujo bait
Lain is boring
Axia also doesnt do anything interesting but still has some dynamics with lauren.
Oliver is there i guess

>>9915310
Why is it so easy to tell you don't know Japanese

>>9915004
holobronies really wanna destroy vtubing, huh?

>>9915391
holofags don't even know what vtubing is or what is happening on the screen.

>>9915004
>Holobronies think every vtubers are GFE pandering whore like their ethot
Fuck off. We don't want your kind, incel.

>>9915004
Ina deserves better to be used for images like this.

>>9915004
yeah and for some reason Kuzuha is double his view after a year of dating his oni wife

>>9905521
>an big
>an huge

>>9911713
>Believing that bullshit
Anon-kun...

>>9915894
Ina would have way more chemistry with anyone here than your shitshow of branch.

I'm watching a DarksydePhil restream since that is more interesting than watch NijiEN garbage, lol.

>>9918573
nice blog, chumfaggot

>>9915795
Incels rule this board, faggot.

>>9919291
and most people in this world are retarded. the more you know.

>>9906763
ogey bootlicker

Why does NijiEN hates Petra?

>>9919625
She’s by far the worst NijiEN liver

>Bought petra's voice pack
>It's all Japanese
A refund please

>>9915004
Nijisanji fans don't care about male/female collabing, it's actually encouraged because niji fans aren't dumb enough to believe their oshi will ever date them. So try harder with your bait post.

7000 views on vod after stream is over
yikes

>>9920527
I mean, it was literally 6.9-7.2k viewers consistently during the stream. That is literally just what the view base was before they recalculate views.