/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

Thread theme

>over 10k streams so far
Missing ClockGirl 20k Minecraft

>>9827973
Holy shit, what happened to Kuzuha?

>>9827832
Tomeru's stream just got SUSANED after 10 days and is no more (she's still going just on a new frame now). Final SC total is $18.5k which is insane for someone of her size, even in those not exactly normal circumstances.

>>9828279
nothing? he's live right now
https://youtu.be/P7TpWHxVOY0

>>9828293
Link to playboard?

>>9828328
Thumbnail got fucked?

>>9828279
Normal apex stream

>>9828353
half of youtube is like that right now

>>9828353
Youtube is having some issues right now, please stand by

>>9828338
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCXYCBPWmFXbdTGD70eQe8zQ/videos
>>9828353
All thumbnails are fucked, Youtube-kun isn't having a good day

>>9828385
Looks like Anya and Watame are currently suffering from it among the Holos.

https://twitter.com/room_leo_info/status/1438095286757253121?s=19

>>9828421
is hal streaming his own pov?

>>9828421
EMPEROR, I KNEEL PREEMPTIVELY!

>>9828391
>https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCXYCBPWmFXbdTGD70eQe8zQ/videos
HAHAHAHA, GWELU WINS AGAIN!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMWTESU_7C8

STILL STANDING!

>>9828279
solo stream lol, kneel to your KING

>>9828577
Sorry anon, kneeling is for #1 only
>Gura, subs Queen, I KNEEL!

>>9827973
Miko just crossed over 20k

Kuzuha, 30k for a normal apex solo stream.

Okay something really weird I just noticed, if you go onto the Playboard all-time superchatted chart it's missing a bunch of people. Those are the exact same channels that don't have thumbnails working, Kuzuha and Watame should be here but aren't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7TpWHxVOY0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP9H0wDzytc
But Flare and Miko are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6in98G_aiOk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCsDlMzsxZw

>>9828715
Heh, probably helps he hasn't been playing apex for a while, so his apex fans are back.
>>9828636
Damnit Anon, you've doomed us, you'll summon dead subs Anon with a post like this.

I'm not a numberfag, so can someone tell me is this some kinda meme or do you guys actually not see that Kuzuha is playing splatoon 2? Or am I missing something

>>9828715
read the title... he's playing splatoon

>>9828715
i love apex

>>9828831
It was apex early

>>9828715
>Kuzuha, 30k for a normal apex solo stream.
kek, this is surely a weird Legend. Seer got nerfed again?

>>9828831
he's clearly playing 'pslatoon' do your katakana reps >>9828886

>>9828826
People don't actually watch him.

>OH NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Holos are allowed thumbs, Nijis are too poor to pay for them!
>NIJISANJI BTFO!

>>9828826
Nobody here actually watches Kuzuha they just jerk off with his numbers because he's the only one who gets "big league hololive numbers" on the regular.

>>9829080
what hololive gen is kanae channel

>>9829121
TRADE ALERT!
>TRADE ALERT!
TRADE ALERT!
>TRADE ALERT!
TRADE ALERT!
>TRADE ALERT!

HEY NIJIBROS, LET'S HAVE A TRADE

>Nijisanji gets Matsuri, Luna (which I suppose would be a great fit with great chemistry with Niji girls), Towa and nineteen (19) GUARANTEED collabs with Kiara OR one (1) collab with Gura if she feels like it that day (no taksie backsies or rescheduling)
>Hololive gets Kanae for Holostars, Hoshikawa (to save her from Matsuri), -ars almal- (for the Minecraft skills) and one (1) collab between Astel and Kuzuha so Astel can teach Kuzuha how to win instead of just wing it

DO WE HAVE A DEAL?

>>9828826
He played apex before he played splatoon

>>9829249
if kanae is put in hololive and kuzuleda collab causes astel to have a BPD meltdown because of kuzuha's adhd zoomer gameplay making him lose RP we have a deal my brother

>>9827973
Holyshit, what happened to Pekora? she can't complete with Kuzuha anymore, he is literally reign supreme now

i was actually watching haato's stream and i still dont get how the poll had close to 47k votes while the stream had less than half of those as viewers.
like is it possible to have 27k people just go on the stream to vote then leave?
i was there from the time the poll started and right before the stream started it had 12k~sh votes so im just confused

>>9829495
Ask Susan

>>9829495
game choice

>>9829495
its ender lies bro. That game broke the most loyal takos

>>9829381
You have no idea how astel plays apex do you?

>>9829531
I believe someone on twitch mentioned that, for a stream with an average CCV of 100k people over 8-10 hours, a final VOD view count would be ~1mil right after the stream.
So every ~hour, you could on average get a turnaround of about 100% of your CCV.
Throw in the fact that CCV on youtube has 'spam view removal' correction added to it, and the fact that people may refresh if the stream is having issues etc and over an hour you can easily end up with a poll that's much higher than the stream's CCV.
Its really fucky to watch the poll votes to CCV hit 100% in under 10-15 minutes though, that just shows that CCV on YT is completely fucked.

>>9829812
kuzuha is literally the kind of shitter that astel hates

>>9829612
I'll confess to only watching about 1/3rd of her Ender Lilies content. It's not quite Wonderful 101 but it's in the same ballpark. It'll be interesting what kind of numbers Pekora can maintain if she actually finishes the game.

>>9829848
Confirmed for never having seen Astel play

>>9829550
Sponsor stream

Final tally of the day is in

>44,049: Gawr Gura (Hololive)
>35,749: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>23,354: Pekora (Hololive)
>21,938: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>21,237: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,691: Kronii (Hololive)
>20,067: HAACHAMA (Hololive)
>19,906: Miko (Hololive)
>15,407: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>14,236: Mito (Nijisanji)
>13,475: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,625: Shibuya Hal (Indie)
>12,203: Botan (Hololive)
>12,139: IRyS (Hololive)
>11,181: Shibuya Hal (Indie)
>11,140: -ars almal- (Nijisanji)
>11,068: Nene (Hololive)

Not a particularly strong day

UMISEA 1st collab now has 510K VOD.
Did someone use the same game but with Coco as a reference in previous thread ?

>>9830503
>Subs Queen
>King
>Queen
>Prince
>a talking duck
>ClockGirl
>Chaos Queen
>Princess Shrine Maid
>Sultan
>Thighs Princess
>Prince
>Emperor
>Slav Lion
>EN AZKi
>Emperor
>Minecraft princess
>Nene

A good day for royalty today

>>9830774
Okay the whole royalty thing was hilarious at one point but now it's getting driven into the ground

>>9830503
still 7+ streams at over 20k, that's not bad anon. Im wondering if the lifting of lockdowns worldwide is going to impact everyone

>>9830503
Could be much better if youtube wasn't shitting itself

>>9830624
half a million on a 1 hour collab...sugoi..

Today was a particularly strong day for regular eventless Nijisanji

>>9830624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VKhUBrpGjs

3 months old, 725k VOD views.
It's doable for Gura's VOD to beat that number within a week.

>>9831478
Even managed to get a couple females over 10k. Nice work.

>>9830895
8

Princess Miko hit 20k as well

>>9832070
Sadly, not before midnight JST

so that Kanae POV yesterday was actually a 3D live? and only got 47k with 3 other popular(?) members at that.

>>9832545
we already had this discussion

>>9832545
It was a 3d shill stream

>>9832618
Cope

And here we go again

>>9833082
Nah, for the time being ClockGirl sealed the timeloop, things seem to be going too normal for anything to happen

Wasn't Gura karaoke supposed to be today?

>>9834063
Yes, in about 6 hours.

>>9834276
Is that why the schedule is so light for the next few hours? Not a single Holo stream scheduled for 9 hours

>>9834521
Ina is streaming in less than 2 hours.

6M soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNIhngowViI

Jun packed up and moved to Twitch?

>>9834738
is it still growing really fast?

>>9835088
Did Pekora break up with him or something?

>>9835088
GET HIM SHAKA

>>9828753
i was just looking at this.
anyway if you click the hololive tag you can find rushia and be assured she is well on her way to be the first 3mil superchat channel in history :)

>>9835088
He's either lost a lot of viewers or his kiddy fanbase went back to school.
no I'm not on about his twitch numbers either.

hola

>>9836123
Good numbers for a design reveal

>>9835780
200K a day, pretty insane for a 2 weeks old cover. For prespective, the second most watched cover last week was Ayame's Goodbye Sengen at 367K a week, which is actually really good. Speaking of which, she's about to hit 10M with it.

>>9836153
Yeah, it's new outfit reveal pretty much

rn Nimu is doing a redebut with +40k viewers(Spanish Vtuber)
https://www.twitch.tv/nimuvt

>>9836123
still growing

>>9836395
Tomorrow’s top will attract attention to this thread assuming this one tops it

>>9836664
>numberfagging this thread
kys

>Ina opening numbers
4.3k from the waiting room. Predictions?

I say 12k is achievable from this opening

>>9837653

>>9836395
Hololives killer? Hololives killer?

>>9829540
But Kuzuha also affected by Susan and 35k is big even for regular Pekora

>>9837708
Still inclining. Already way above Kiara so she'll probably be at top of this timeslot

>>9838129
>But Kuzuha also affected by Susan
barely

>>9838237
What does youtube even count as a spamview? Why are they filtering so many views from the Holos?

>>9838129
>>9838237
You both surely realize Kuzuha is trailing Pekora for the month of September so far, right?

9/1 - 9/13 Median (number of streams)
>Pekora 31,088 (12)
>Marine 30,406 (8)
>Gura 23,938 (8)
>Kuzuha 23,182 (13)

>>9838162
I wonder if Ina can get a big guerilla collab boost like gen2 does

>>9838304
Ad-block users, users that are tabbed out, users that are muted and people that are in more than one stream only get counted for one stream from what I recall.

>>9838304
see how Pekora gets less filtered than bigger EOPmagnets like haachama and gura. It filters based on multiple criteria, which include adblock, country of viewer vs streamer, second-tabbing, chatting, spamming, etc. Depends on their audience basically.

>>9837653
Is Ina trending downwards this month?

>>9838623
Maybe now that school is back in session less NA kids can watch her streams.

>>9838623
?
Ina's normal for mc streams is 11-12k, and shes already there

>>9838623
Ina's numbers are just the same. People should be more worried about Kiara's numbers since she's just at 1.5k ccv now but to be fair, she's been streaming for almost 7 hours so a low ccv is to be expected.

>>9838623
>Is Ina trending downwards this month?
She bounces back and forth depending on whether she's debuffing herself or not.

Here are her weekly medians, date is the end of the week

>2021-07-11 :: 11119 median (3 streams)
>2021-07-18 :: 8810 median (5 streams)
>2021-07-25 :: 11215 median (5 streams)
>2021-08-01 :: 10407 median (6 streams)
>2021-08-08 :: 9609 median (4 streams)
>2021-08-15 :: 11283 median (3 streams)
>2021-08-22 :: 6164 median (5 streams)
>2021-08-29 :: 10240 median (6 streams)
>2021-09-05 :: 5970 median (4 streams)
>2021-09-12 :: 6677 median (6 streams)

This week so far she's on pace to be back into a 11k median. It's not rocket science
>Ina plays shitty debuff games: her median drops
>Ina plays good stuff, her median spikes

>>9839910
Here is the same data for Pekora, for reference of what is someone that does not flinch

>2021-07-11 :: 23981 median (8 streams)
>2021-07-18 :: 24121 median (10 streams)
>2021-07-25 :: 20139 median (15 streams)
>2021-08-01 :: 20043 median (11 streams)
>2021-08-08 :: 22522 median (7 streams)
>2021-08-15 :: 22350 median (10 streams)
>2021-08-22 :: 19813 median (8 streams)
>2021-08-29 :: 20212 median (7 streams)
>2021-09-05 :: 23438 median (5 streams)
>2021-09-12 :: 24303 median (7 streams)

This week so far she's at
>23046 median (4 streams)

All of this is the median of the average CCV, not the peak

>>9840052
Here is Gura

>2021-07-11 :: 15699 median (4 streams)
>2021-07-18 :: 15737 median (2 streams)
>2021-07-25 :: 15584 median (4 streams)
>2021-08-01 :: 19400 median (3 streams)
>2021-08-08 :: 12934 median (4 streams)
>2021-08-15 :: 12095 median (4 streams)
>2021-08-22 :: 18145 median (4 streams)
>2021-08-29 :: 17502 median (5 streams)
>2021-09-05 :: 13445 median (4 streams)
>2021-09-12 :: 20791 median (3 streams)

This week so far she's at
>30041 median (3 streams)

Gura is on pace to have one of her best weeks so far, second best only to the week ending in 2021-07-04 (Usaken Summer Fest week)

>>9840379
Is the lists of median (pekora, gura, ina) for average ccv or highest ccv?

>>9839910
Thanks. This is exactly what I wanted to see

https://twitter.com/NimuVt/status/1438250723599429638?s=19
How she does it? I dont see her appeal

>>9840588
Average CCV.

Here is something different from what I usually post, it is the medians, for the month of september, for the PEAK CCV (instead of the usual avg ccv)

SEPTEMBER PEAK CCV MEDIAN
>35140 median :: ayame (3 streams)
>31866 median :: marine (9 streams)
>30290 median :: pekora (13 streams)
>20673 median :: gura (8 streams)
>18713 median :: miko (14 streams)
>18191 median :: subaru (13 streams)
>16582 median :: suisei (5 streams)
>16217 median :: korone (9 streams)
>15228 median :: rushia (8 streams)
>13697 median :: botan (13 streams)
>13658 median :: aqua (8 streams)
>13388 median :: shion (5 streams)
>11240 median :: kanata (14 streams)
>10657 median :: mumei (11 streams)
>10173 median :: okayu (11 streams)
>10123 median :: ouro (9 streams)
>10042 median :: noel (7 streams)
>9755 median :: ceres (13 streams)
>9136 median :: mio (9 streams)
>8795 median :: fubuki (24 streams)
>8716 median :: inanis (10 streams)
>8142 median :: flare (15 streams)
>8102 median :: lamy (15 streams)
>8063 median :: irys (11 streams)
>7849 median :: haato (7 streams)
>7298 median :: calliope (8 streams)
>7100 median :: watame (15 streams)
>7096 median :: nene (12 streams)
>6730 median :: amelia (11 streams)
>6420 median :: towa (14 streams)
>5903 median :: hakos (12 streams)
>5842 median :: kiara (13 streams)
>5190 median :: sana (11 streams)
>4716 median :: himemoriluna (17 streams)
>4612 median :: polka (10 streams)
>3552 median :: sora (7 streams)
>3186 median :: azki (7 streams)
>3028 median :: matsuri (13 streams)
>3013 median :: roboco (16 streams)
>2555 median :: aki (6 streams)
>2415 median :: ollie (15 streams)
>2334 median :: choco (9 streams)
>2298 median :: astel (5 streams)
>1725 median :: reine (17 streams)
>1532 median :: moona (14 streams)
>968 median :: risu (7 streams)
>965 median :: iofi (7 streams)
>964 median :: roberu (20 streams)
>960 median :: mel (1 streams)
>942 median :: melfissa (13 streams)
>784 median :: shien (5 streams)
>661 median :: miyabi (8 streams)
>544 median :: izuru (6 streams)
>515 median :: aruran (27 streams)
>493 median :: temma (11 streams)
>482 median :: oga (10 streams)
>436 median :: rikka (9 streams)

>>9840866
Got promoted by huge spic e-celebs

>>9840866
She speaks spanish.
She was involved in mutliple telenovelesque controversies that made her name a stalwart in the latin america vtubers
She is as well connected with latin america ecelebs as Hal is with japanese and american ones

>>9840912
Here is the same, for August

AUGUST PEAK CCV MEDIAN
>33167 median :: ouro (7 streams)
>30759 median :: marine (13 streams)
>28711 median :: pekora (35 streams)
>19823 median :: miko (47 streams)
>19478 median :: mumei (4 streams)
>19249 median :: ceres (7 streams)
>17882 median :: gura (19 streams)
>16958 median :: subaru (28 streams)
>16379 median :: rushia (22 streams)
>15921 median :: aqua (12 streams)
>15718 median :: ayame (3 streams)
>15519 median :: shion (10 streams)
>14600 median :: hakos (8 streams)
>13931 median :: suisei (17 streams)
>12558 median :: kanata (30 streams)
>12121 median :: haato (36 streams)
>11984 median :: inanis (19 streams)
>11669 median :: korone (25 streams)
>10561 median :: mio (21 streams)
>10164 median :: flare (32 streams)
>9848 median :: sana (7 streams)
>9085 median :: nene (17 streams)
>8772 median :: amelia (26 streams)
>8614 median :: botan (28 streams)
>8428 median :: watame (22 streams)
>8304 median :: okayu (23 streams)
>8174 median :: irys (28 streams)
>7798 median :: noel (23 streams)
>7771 median :: lamy (34 streams)
>7134 median :: calliope (22 streams)
>6086 median :: kiara (24 streams)
>5564 median :: polka (27 streams)
>5361 median :: fubuki (61 streams)
>5259 median :: towa (30 streams)
>4855 median :: mel (9 streams)
>4216 median :: himemoriluna (33 streams)
>3312 median :: matsuri (23 streams)
>3272 median :: sora (17 streams)
>2803 median :: ollie (27 streams)
>2798 median :: azki (4 streams)
>2620 median :: roboco (34 streams)
>2253 median :: moona (21 streams)
>2249 median :: choco (23 streams)
>2226 median :: aki (12 streams)
>1966 median :: astel (25 streams)
>1751 median :: reine (30 streams)
>1370 median :: iofi (15 streams)
>1197 median :: risu (15 streams)
>1069 median :: melfissa (19 streams)
>950 median :: roberu (39 streams)
>844 median :: shien (15 streams)
>717 median :: miyabi (20 streams)
>618 median :: izuru (15 streams)
>563 median :: oga (17 streams)
>533 median :: aruran (56 streams)
>407 median :: rikka (29 streams)
>397 median :: temma (28 streams)

>>9840912
>ayame (3 streams)
sasuga ojou

>>9840866
She was the no 1 ES vtuber for a few years now.
Fully moving her streams to twitch was the best move of her career, capitalized on the audience already there and got a lot of promotion and raids from bigger streamers.

>>9840912
How does Fubuki have 24 streams already? It hasn't even been half of September yet

>>9841037
Here is the same, but for the whole year

2021 PEAK CCV MEDIAN
>30148 median :: pekora (298 streams)
>27453 median :: marine (175 streams)
>21923 median :: gura (148 streams)
>19342 median :: aqua (112 streams)
>18045 median :: miko (275 streams)
>16346 median :: subaru (216 streams)
>16242 median :: ayame (44 streams)
>15886 median :: korone (179 streams)
>15225 median :: rushia (183 streams)
>14286 median :: ouro (16 streams)
>13725 median :: haato (126 streams)
>13384 median :: shion (46 streams)
>13037 median :: suisei (165 streams)
>12555 median :: mumei (15 streams)
>11768 median :: botan (235 streams)
>11608 median :: kanata (246 streams)
>11389 median :: ceres (20 streams)
>10347 median :: inanis (175 streams)
>10175 median :: hakos (20 streams)
>9857 median :: okayu (195 streams)
>9591 median :: watame (243 streams)
>9230 median :: calliope (187 streams)
>9207 median :: mio (172 streams)
>8888 median :: noel (192 streams)
>8649 median :: amelia (234 streams)
>8592 median :: irys (52 streams)
>8453 median :: nene (179 streams)
>8186 median :: coco (225 streams)
>8149 median :: fubuki (362 streams)
>8142 median :: flare (264 streams)
>8120 median :: lamy (262 streams)
>6805 median :: kiara (202 streams)
>6289 median :: polka (200 streams)
>6102 median :: sana (18 streams)
>5321 median :: towa (221 streams)
>4987 median :: himemoriluna (221 streams)
>4458 median :: matsuri (233 streams)
>4091 median :: azki (54 streams)
>3446 median :: sora (158 streams)
>3410 median :: choco (155 streams)
>2976 median :: roboco (258 streams)
>2851 median :: ollie (229 streams)
>2806 median :: moona (174 streams)
>2781 median :: mel (77 streams)
>2775 median :: aki (134 streams)
>1814 median :: reine (262 streams)
>1337 median :: astel (211 streams)
>1162 median :: risu (122 streams)
>1105 median :: melfissa (181 streams)
>1076 median :: iofi (134 streams)
>1010 median :: roberu (294 streams)
>802 median :: izuru (92 streams)
>697 median :: shien (131 streams)
>572 median :: rikka (176 streams)
>527 median :: oga (168 streams)
>483 median :: miyabi (187 streams)
>459 median :: temma (278 streams)
>438 median :: aruran (409 streams)

>>9841147
Lots of morning streams.

>>9840956
>>9840963
>>9841088
So, basically moving to Twitch and going with some e-celebs made her mog half of Hololive girls? Life sometimes is unfair lol

>>9841147
>How does Fubuki have 24 streams already? It hasn't even been half of September yet

>2021-09-02 :: 5553/6902 :: 【Phasmophobia】大型アプデで更にYABEな幽霊調査【 ホロライブ/白上フブキ 】
>2021-09-02 :: 24589/26813 :: 【初配信】はじめまして!ホロライブ1期生の白上フブキです!【#白上フブキ初配信】
>2021-09-03 :: 1088/1734 :: 【同時視聴】MCUアニメ「What If…?」1話~4話【ホロライブ/白上フブキ】
>2021-09-04 :: 9217/11168 :: 【#1】BIOHAZARD 7 resident evil【ホロライブ/白上フブキ】
>2021-09-05 :: 6608/10666 :: UNDERTALE:GルートRTA【 ホロライブ/白上フブキ 】
>2021-09-05 :: 8135/11838 :: 【ポケカ開封】マネージャーが選んできたポケカを開封する。爆アドの恐怖【ホロライブ/白上フブキ】
>2021-09-05 :: 8729/11538 :: 【白上視点】人畜無害のキツネです/I'm harmless fox.【#ホロAmongUs】
>2021-09-06 :: 3994/4354 :: 【デレステ】佐久間まゆをスカウトしに行くあんずP【ホロライブ/白上フブキ】
>2021-09-06 :: 12242/13867 :: 【#KUROFOXBDAY】SONGLIVEHAPPY BIRTHDAY【黒上フブキ】
>2021-09-09 :: 4861/5973 :: 朝の雑談:マシュマロにも答えてみる。【ホロライブ/白上フブキ】
>2021-09-09 :: 8089/10012 :: 【Phasmophobia】プロ難易度:幽霊調査【 ホロライブ/白上フブキ 】
>2021-09-09 :: 6989/8500 :: 【#2】BIOHAZARD 7 resident evil【ホロライブ/白上フブキ】
>2021-09-10 :: 4938/6055 :: 【NGS】これはSEGAが白上を歓迎している!?ムーンライトサンクチュアリー【ホロライブ/白上フブキ】
>2021-09-10 :: 6422/11375 :: 【Pacify】ホラゲーしながらハーモニカ爆音奏でたら即放送終了【ホロライブ/白上フブキ】
>2021-09-10 :: 6660/11710 :: 【Pacify】リベンジ:ホラゲーしながらハーモニカ爆音奏でたら即放送終了【ホロライブ/白上フブキ】
>2021-09-11 :: 6832/8379 :: 【#フブロボ】Pacifyの洋館で人形を集めるだけの簡単なお仕事【ホロライブ/白上フブキ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-09-11 :: 5295/6867 :: 【UNDERTALE】息抜き、ジェノサイダーがNルートで平和に過ごす。【 ホロライブ/白上フブキ 】
>2021-09-11 :: 4265/5301 :: 【TERAVIT 】ドットな世界でおいたんと冒険する狐【ホロライブ/白上フブキ】
>2021-09-12 :: 12078/13941 :: 【Phasmophobia】弱肉強食!幽霊に打ち勝て調査隊【 #ホロ幽霊調査隊 】
>2021-09-13 :: 5768/8035 :: 【UNDERTALE】PART2 息抜き、ジェノサイダーがNルートで平和に過ごす。【 ホロライブ/白上フブキ 】
>2021-09-13 :: 13735/22467 :: 【#ホロの神絵師】とりあえず、ホロの神絵師集めてGartic Phoneで遊んでみた。【 ホロライブ/白上フブキ 】
>2021-09-14 :: 6366/8795 :: 【雑談】友人から届いたピカチュウオリパ開けつつ雑談。【 ホロライブ/白上フブキ 】
>2021-09-15 :: 6969/8914 :: 【UNDERTALE】みんなとシアワセになる為のPルート【 ホロライブ/白上フブキ 】

>>9841269
I've been convinced for 9 months now that if HoloEN streamed 2 times a week on Twitch, they'd mog most regular streamers too.
That's where most of the Western vtuber audience has moved/formed.
Those on Youtube are there for Hololive and associated Vtubers.

>>9841412
>That's where most of the Western vtuber audience has moved/formed.
This statement is useless without numbers.

>>9841171
Btw, if you asked anyone back in 2020 that Ina would own the second highest peak CCV median out of HoloMyth people would laugh

>>9841560
Her constant schedules made her gain a stable fanbase unlike the other ones who were bleeding viewers

>>9837653
Already achieved

>>9840912
>20673 median :: gura (8 streams)
>10657 median :: mumei (11 streams)
>10123 median :: ouro (9 streams)
>9755 median :: ceres (13 streams)
>8716 median :: inanis (10 streams)
>8063 median :: irys (11 streams)
>7298 median :: calliope (8 streams)
>6730 median :: amelia (11 streams)
>5903 median :: hakos (12 streams)
>5842 median :: kiara (13 streams)
>5190 median :: sana (11 streams)
It's still a bit early to call it the final EN ranking but this should be close to what it will be in the future.

>>9841088
How big is Twitch in LATAM?

>>9841854
I really like how irys keeps building momentum for her fanbase. Isn't she like streams the most hours only behind kiara.

>>9841789
Still inclining. She’s doing something remarkable or it’s just a return to her slot off debuff games?

>>9841863
Some of the highest peaks in streams of all time there were made by spanish streamers as Grefg, Ibai, Rubius and Auronplay, now with the vtuber scene I don't know

>>9841854
If there's one thing we learned about HoloEN after a year, it's that for everyone not named Gura, whoever plays the most minecraft will have the 2nd highest median.
Ina and Irys have been playing a lot more minecraft than Amelia and Mori recently(it's been 4 months for Mori). Kiara debuffs herself so much that even Minecraft spam won't pull her up much tho.

>>9841995
Nothing special but no one else is butting in on her slot today.

>>9841863
Arguably bigger than english streamers honestly.
ES folks go pretty wild, same with ID folks.
irl streamers are obviously different from vtubers tho.

>>9841854
Long term I would bet Clockgirl and Ina ahead of OwlGirl, Irys ahead of GreenLamy. Rest seems fine

>>9842094
Nobody took the EU prime hours in Council so Ina is gladly taking it

>>9841854
An interesting thing is, if you look at the VOD views for Ame and Mori, they're either equal or higher than Ina's VODs despite being several thousand down in avg and median CCV.
Amelia debuffs her median all the time with Supa Sundays and Watchalongs, but Mori's CCV is pretty meh and she gets VOD views afterwards. Both of them rarely get below 100k VOD views for game streams.

>>9842336
>Amelia debuffs her median all the time with Supa Sundays and Watchalongs
These numbers are for peak CCV median tho

>>9842394
Ya so every supa sunday and watchalong she does is a stream that drags her median down, since the peaks of those are 1-3k so they're in the lower half.

>>9842336
After a year for Myth's average VOD views till this August.

Gura: 745K (least videos, 2 buff songs, and long run in replay value for early videos to gain views)
Calli: 544K (music buff, including ones on YT music)
Kiara: 246K (not sure her songs help much in this)
Ina: 242K
Ame: 227K

>>9842597
My oshi is mogged by everyone, unexpectedly. The things Ame likes to do don't seem to attract many vod viewers, and her streams have been quite short lately too because tummy hort.

>>9842499
Oh, yeah, that too. Amelia seems to be avoiding the things that buffed her in the past
>Minecraft
>APEX
>Collabs

Why is that? Also, she surely likes doing watchalongs, for fuck sake, she can only be doing it for her own enjoyment because the audience of pretty much any of the top girls waiting room is larger than what she’s getting for those.

>HEY AMELIA!
>get friends to watch movies with you, stop doing it at work

>>9842597
>Gura: 745K
Good lord. She has a handful of VODs in the 950k+ range too so we might be getting another batch of 1 mil+ VODs again.
>Kiara: 246K
Kiara has numerous 1-2 mil view covers and originals which definitely help her out. For comparison, Ina and Ame don't have anything past 1.6 mil. She also does longer streams than anyone, so her lower CCV is balanced out by streaming 3-4 hours more per stream than the other girls.
>Ina: 242K
>Ame: 227K
If we look at every VOD, then this is where the supa sundays and watchalongs hurt Ame the hardest. Those rarely get past 100k views and she's the HoloEN that does the most watchalongs. Even then, she's only 20k behind Ina.

>>9842181
Owl being at her weakest state (from debut) is still a competitive second to Kronii
Once she gets fully comfortable I don't know how much potential she'll have

>>9842767
She's been sick and watchalongs are easy to do without having to spend too much energy.

>>9842708
I wish Ame for EN can be like Coco for JP. People will turn in when she plans for something abnormal. Coco is not famous for streaming games but when she plans for something special then huge amount of viewers dragged in.

>>9842597
Quick question, does this average include Mori's released member streams? Since that's a fairly heavy debuff (3 VODs a month with low views that rarely go above 40~k after they're released). As far as I'm aware she's the only Holo who regularly does this so it might have an interesting impact on VOD average.

>>9841863
i recall a few months ago there was a argentine doing "awards" stream he had 250k but i dont remember his name

>>9841854
IRyS won't consistently stay above Calliope and Amelia, and Fauna's CCV doesn't seem like it'll be particularly strong either. I think something this thread overlooks is that Calli and Ame serially debuff themselves with content choices (games in Mori's case, super sunday/watchalongs in Ame's).

>>9842860
I can scroll randomly on her timeline and it’s rare not to find two watchalongs in a screen.

I agree that it is a low energy expenditure activity and beats taking a day off.
SC readings tho, those are standard for many of the girls, the debuff in the numbers is widespread.

>>9842949
>IRyS won't consistently stay above (…) Amelia
It will unless Ame stops doing watch alongs.

>>9842989
Watchalong + SC readings are an easy way for her to do 2 light streams in a day.
It's more content for her fans, but it drags her numbers down.
If she starts a minecraft arc, she'll easily be 9k+ median.

>>9829249
>Luna (which I suppose would be a great fit with great chemistry with Niji girls)
Gotta hand it to you tradeschizo, this one was very good.

>>9842882
Yes, everything public on her channel and YT music because she has the artist label where she can get views from it.

>>9843043
I know some people will doubt me, but if the Minecraft arc seriously kicks into gear for EN like it's threatening to, and Ame actually starts doing Ame in the AM with any sort of consistency, her CCV is going to take off.

>>9841443
way too many numbers to split them neatly so
A few examples of the Twitch scene growing faster after 2021 started
select all time or last 2 years
https://twitchtracker.com/nyanners/statistics
https://twitchtracker.com/baoo/statistics
https://twitchtracker.com/veibae/statistics
A lot of EN vtubers like Baoo, Juniper, Nimu especially, and even NuxTaku made the move full time to Twitch streaming for good reasons.

While YT western vtubers... outside of Hololive, the 3 above who moved, Uto and Nabi, who were even pulling over 1k viewers before Niji EN started?
Holostars also have a big overseas audience. and they aren't each pulling 800-1k viewers anymore, like in late 2020.

HoloEN in 2020
https://www.reddit.com/r/HoloStatistics/comments/oxbgaz/2020_septemberoctobernovemberdecember_minutes/
In mid 2021
https://www.reddit.com/r/HoloStatistics/comments/o0kb72/2021_may_minutes_watched_revisited/
https://www.reddit.com/r/HoloStatistics/comments/oxbgaz/2020_septemberoctobernovemberdecember_minutes/
Of course, there are many parts at play here, like for Uto and Artemis, with their irregular schedules, but at a quick glance it does look like the EN YT scene was based around Hololive streamers.

>>9843059
>If she starts a minecraft arc
>>9843091
>and Ame actually starts doing Ame in the AM with any sort of consistency,
That’s my hope too. As anon said at >>9842873, Ame could easily go the Coco “variety streams” route and pad with Minecraft.

Server merger and council surely will tempt her to fix some of her stuff there

>Sana 9/1 - 9/15
9/1 - 6,843
9/3 - 3,621
9/5 - 6,663
9/7 - 3,679
9/8 - 6,033
9/9 - 6,102
9/10 - 6,102
9/11 - 4,972
9/12 - 7,881
9/13 - 5,190
9/15 - 3,520
9/16 - ????

>median: 5,190

the lowest median a HoloEN ever got. Sana... might the first one to break under 5k median views...

>>9841863
Twitch is very easy to view numbers for
The 2 biggest peak viewer channels all time were Es
https://twitchtracker.com/channels/peak-viewers
THEGREFG 2,470,347
IBAI 1,538,645
50% more than LoL finals and significantly more than the highest EN peak
TOMMYINNIT 650,237

>>9843131
Keep in mind that if the EN Holos move, they'll almost certainly have the same restrictions on Twitch the JP Holos have (sub only chat), which may serve to filter out a lot of viewers. I don't really know enough about Twitch analytics though to know if sub only mode really impacts channels CCV wise a lot though.

>>9843311
Mixed something up there, it was 50% more than the PlayStation presentation at 1 mil, the LoL finals were at 654k

>>9843252
Kiara has really never gone below a 5k median?

>>9843252
Sana is going on break as well and she refuses to draw on public streams outside of special occasions.

>>9841863
The top 3 are Spanish streamers.

>>9843337
It doesn't appear to impact it at all.
But also, the EN girls would definitely have moderators, they already know the environment.
Miko and Pekora just jumped in with no knowledge or mods. Pekora had to be bailed by Twitch staff when even the subs were spamming inappropriate stuff.
They shouldn't move completely btw. YT ads are much better, it's a better platform for vods and their songs + Hollive itself is on YT, but there is a big EN vtuber audience on Twitch that they could easily become the biggest in.

>>9843252
The next council meeting is on her channel, and the collab ban will be lifted by then. Her median should incline due to this.

>>9843367
close back in January she had 5.3k median views.

>>9843392
I'm always surprised in how little recognition have the Spanish streamers among English community, while on the contrary English streamers are well known among in the Hispanic community

>>9843476
Also, the permissions for games might change if they change platforms.

>>9843476
Fully going in runs the risk of action from Twitch staff if the front page gets overrun by vtubers.
They're not above publicly fucking with people or groups they don't like.

>>9843566
A lot of Spanish speakers can also speak English while very few native English speakers will ever bother to learn Spanish beyond the little they get in high school.

>>9843392
They're all from Spain?

>>9842597
YT Music views are not included on tracking sites

>>9843131
>Holostars also have a big overseas audience. and they aren't each pulling 800-1k viewers anymore
Not all of them but if you look at >>9841171, two of them have a median above 1k (meaning as many streams over 1k as those under) and one is almost there.
The top two are the ones with an actual overseas audience.

As for VShojo growth, Nyanners for instance went from an average CCV of 4k in October 2020 to 8k in August 2021.

That’s great but when you look at what happened in the two prev months (an increase from 2.1k to 4.1k) and the timing you’ll realize it was not that they grew or that twitch audience massively expanded, but that something happened in September 2020 that made the English speaking vtuber scene grew from a mass of 2 views into something viable.

>>9843678
Yes, I'm from Spain so I can confirm those 3 are Spanish, somehow Spain is the powerhouse in the community, Only a few latins have big numbers I mean, even Agüero (current Barcelona football player) don't have that much viewers

>>9843764
Even Mori's? They're on her channel properly now since she has an artist channel.

>>9843392
>>9843678
Huh, true, none of the Es speakers from Latin America or SEA?
Just the last one has a Brazil flag, which would mean PR speaker.

>>9843252
>the lowest median a HoloEN ever got
Wut? What period, monthly?

>>9843777
That's when HoloEN debut.

>>9843804
>which would mean PR speaker.
PT.

>>9842708
Same for Gura. During birthday week, her birthday cake stream and gardening stream received poorly compared to her other streams, even the Jaws watchalong can beat these two in VOD views.

>>9843777
About Holostars, yeah, that's why i was phrasing it that way, as Astel at least is doing way better than in 2020 and Roberu's still over 1k, just a bit worse.
They've gotten good growth mostly from the JP side this year though, from Apex and collabs with other JP vtubers.
>something happened in September 2020 that made the English speaking vtuber scene grew
Exactly. It all blew up with HoloEN, but since the Twitch scene evolved without them so much that 3 of the Vshoujo are at the same level at CCV with Ame, Kiara and Mori.

>>9843858
That's clearly whats being implied.
I get what's being laid down here though, and that's that, unless you're already big or are able to establish connections to the big v-tubing agencies on YT (Hololive, Nijisanji) its very hard to 'break out' on YT, whereas its much easier to do so on Twitch due to the existence of raids. I'd honestly like some numbers for the smaller indie v-tubers on twitch, but that sounds like a lot of scraping and work for minimal gain.

>>9843912
True, my mistake,
found out PR is only for es-PR Puerto Rico.

>>9843804
>SEA
What? No one from SEA speaks spanish anon, and there were some Latin youtubers (The ones who makes videos) but they either abandoned or keeps just making videos

>>9841171
In comparison Kuzuha numbers
Jan: 24,325
Feb: 25,613
Mar: 26,095
Apr: 15,725
May: 21,115
Jun: 21,882
Jul: 23,873
Aug: 36,543
>median 24,099
>average 24,396
Sept(current): 23,182

>>9844082
For some reason people think Filipinos speak Spanish (because of the Spanish surnames and colonial history probably).

>>9844114
>Apr: 15,725
Ouch that Valo spam...
>Aug: 36,543
The power of tournies and baseball.

>>9844160
Yeah, Philippines used to be a Spanish colony, but when USA took over, they tried to impose English, so they started speaking tagalog and english which are their official languages

>>9843978
>3 of the Vshoujo are at the same level at CCV with Ame, Kiara and Mori.
I assume there is a cultural difference between Twitch streamers and YouTube streamers that causes that.
I’m not familiar with them but: do twitch streamers even do super chat readings?

That surely drags the average through the mud. Here is the nyanners uncropped table from that link you posted, with the peaks.

Despite having that average Nyanners only started reaching 10k at all after April 2021, and with the exception of what I assume to be a special event, is not peaking above 14k.
That seems to indicate that the actual size of the Twitch vtuber audience is significantly smaller than the YouTube audience and that Nyanners and the top VShojo girls have a very dedicated audience almost maxing out the total potential audience.

>>9844114
>Apr: 15,725

>>9843764
You talking about tracking sites he is talking about how YT works. Artist label allows the views from "topic channel" added into the main channel. Mori's public videos only gained around 150M views while her 12 songs (one is not even really hers) gained more than 22M, and her channel showing her total views is above 173M

>>9843798
YouTube is tracking music on her topic channel. If you check her channel and social and sort the the videos by views you will not find any music

Mori
>https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCT6fzkIIQuAQIiJK3tt-keg
Gura
>https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCGWJmXZpYgpMnP-e0_L14eQ
Kiara
>https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCIkpAd2Hhs_GvPRaPLtlR6Q
Ina
>https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCeSflFgEVmvwChpTB0lLO1w

>>9844362
Twitch streams a lot of the times are conversational, sitting for 9 hours talking to chat, maybe deciding to play a game, or reacting to videos on stream.
Donating is heavily encouraged, a lot of people not only read every donation and "monthly resub" but even have special annotations, sounds and visuals to play when one pops up.
As a result "donation reactions" videos, compilations and challenges are really common.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6nCl_lVD7c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcC2GHqXV0c

>>9844391
That's not true
You can check on Social Blade which videos are being tracked and there's no music when you look on her normal channel

>>9844671 (me)

>>9844671
Why are you bringing up social blade but not do the math yourself on Calli's channel? Please. It's not that much of a work.

>>9844362
Ironmouse, incidentally, is doing much better than Nyanners. Like Ollie, that eceleb mingling surely helped grow her reach beyond the usual vtuber audience but, unlike Ollie, she has two things going for her
1) the “sick anime girl” buff
2) the lack of the “ID debuff”

Ironmouse and Nyanners have another good thing going for them: they were already very well known in the scene due to viral moments way before HoloEN even existed. They were in the perfect position to capitalize on the “big bang” of the EN vtuber scene.
It is not possible to extrapolate feom their success and assume it’s because of twitch.

>>9844671
all the vod views sorted till Calli's anniversary

>>9844362
dont compare twitch and youtube ccvs. Youtube heavily debuffs its own numbers, while twitch does not. They dont mess with the total views though

>>9844893
I am aware of that, that’s why I’m not doing a head to head comparison but comparing the streamer numbers with themselves across the time

>>9844768
195.8 million views
313 uploads
Avg views per VOD 625k

Are you happy?

>Kuzuha APEX is always a guaranteed 30k now
>Pekora failed to hit 30k on MC multiple times in Augustus
Tick tock Pecucks

>>9844929
Damn...did you do the math "on her channel", there is already a post for you.>>9844877

>>9844877
>150m views
That doesn't match any tracking website

>>9845086
Ogey

>>9845121
That matches youtube. Or you can ask people on Holostatistics or even google yourself how artist label works.

>>9845086
the new numbersqueen will soon humble your king>>9836381

>>9845086
nice kuzuha shitpost anon, but did (You) pay him?
>Latest VOD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7TpWHxVOY0
>Membership
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSFCh5NL4qXrAy9u-u2lX3g/join
>Free chat, superchat at any time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-wP62z90Lk
>Voice packs
https://shop.nijisanji.jp/s/niji/item/detail/dig-00091?ima=3249
don't forget to get his membership, it's mandatory.

>>9845086
cringed out

>>9845121
Just minus the total views on social blade (calli's channel) from calli's topic (social blade) and then it matches.

https://youtu.be/qNIhngowViI
6M - 12d 20h 16m
avg. views/hr(5M-6M) : 8670.52023
avg. views/day(5M-6M) : 208092.486

>>9845267
I don't know why you're in these threads, all you're doing is pleasing him by giving (You)s, I know it's shit to see your oshi get shit on but this is /#/

>>9845330
>Still on course for a million a week
Fucking absurd

>>9845330
14d20h16m

>>9845372
But the dead subs! That can't be right, can it?

This thread takes me back to posting the dps meter results in wow every time i ended first

>>9845330
For reference :
REFLECT(5M-6M) : 5573.1005/hr
133754.412/day
REFLECT(6M-7M) : 3888.52884/hr
93324.6922/day

>>9827832
Easy 40k?

>>9845765
6K waiting now, I think 30K is nore feasible

>>9845765
35k IMO, 40k is possible but I doubt it.
Mostly because she's had more of these unarchived Karaokes as of late and the 'rarity buff' she gets for these is getting diluted a bit.

>>9845765
Jazz isn't that popular, I think it would be more in line with her Bard karaoke. Then again, no one else is really streaming so maybe it's higher.

>>9845937
It's a reprisal of her 1st Karaoke stream she did last year after debut. On that count she could hit 40k from that, but is hard to pin down for sure.

>>9845086
I know Kuzuha might a great streamer and probably a nice guy but his diehard fans who always shit on others turns me off.
All Vtubers are reclining, why don't we stop the shitting and enjoy watching

>>9845990
Probably should have made that clear in the thumbnail then, people are just gonna think it's random jazz-themed songs.

>>9846045
Those aren't fans they just use him to troll, and they don't really care if you end up disliking him.

>>9846130
Speaking of thumbnail, which vtuber that is great at making thumbnail

>>9846045
>all vtubers are reclining
when EN tubers are dead and gone, Hal will be here.

>>9846187
unironically Gura
>big faces
>Readable font
>Catchy text

>>9845372
kpop groups get 100 million in a day. you don't realize how small vtubers are.

>>9846187
Choco sensei

>>9846045
His diehard fans are the ones replying to the bait every fucking time sending this general into a timeloop instead of ignoring it.

>>9846515
I think they are comparing to vtubers.

>>9846476
This still is and will always be the dumbest possible way of using a coat.

>>9846559
That's like, how half the character in One Piece dress. Imagine that's what he's going for.

Gura has to start her stream late or she don't get a big number otherwise LOL

>>9846559
Oh come on now, it's just a coat repurposed as a cape. It has extra utility vs a cape too.

Wonder who are the current Top10 of Hololive in terms of CCV, VOD and SC? My guess is:
Pekora, Gura, Marine, Subaru, Miko
Rushia, Botan, Ina, Aqua, Mori

>>9846515
Nobody was disputing that anonchama, King's numbers are still absurd for the vtuber scene.

>>9846630
EN vtubers are dying. JP is growing (Kuzuha/Hal) relatively.

>>9846559
If he put his arms in the sleeves his body temperature number would rise

>>9846674
2 people isn't an entire market. Most vtubers have been down across the board. Except Twitch which is sort of merging into the general streaming entertainment category.

>>9846674
HAL got like 3k the other day, lol. He is nothing without Apex.

remember when Pekora used to get 50k for Minecraft?

>>9846674
>talking about a cover numbers
>b-but kuzuha/hal august CCV
ogey?

Good luck competing with a SpaceX launch with 400k watching live

not sure why these threads exist when Kson mogged everyone in SCs and viewers. Literally no reason.

>>9846910
Not sure why these threads exist when picrel mog everyone in fucking Twitcasts

>>9846910
It's about daily numbers not "hey remember that one time a thing happened".

>>9846910
Because Kson isn't a vtuber. Take discussion of streaming face came THOTS to another board.

>>9847043
not paying attention to the reply chain but i want to fuck satomi

>>9847075
people talk about outfit reveals and koushien but Coco mogged everyone, no one will ever beat her. This thread is obsolete.

>>9847179
hope it helps king

>>9847179
If you really believe that, you would go away.

>>9847258
But it's true, no one in nijisanji/cover will ever top 490k.

>>9827832
How are vtubers doing as a whole? Is this niche/phenomenon declining in views? In like 2 years what will have to change? Cause streaming video games will eventually burn out? Unless they go for unconventional stuff here n there like retro or early 2000s. They will have to expand and interact more with the audience, or have progressive themes like gura's new evil side, treat it like a story that continues forward.

>>9847510
COVID is over so only the actual entertaining ones will survive.

>>9847417
Even if Kuzeha graduates.

>>9847075
Discussions depends on what will give Nijis the advantage.
CCV matters if Kuzuha got higher number than Peko/Gura/Marine
VOD Views don't matter when Gura is being discussed but it matters if its about Kuzuha vs Pekora

Oh so it's that time of the day again

>>9847639
Yea, its a progressive paring back of the chaff. Only the best/luckiest will survive the decline that'll happen, much like boom/bursts in other industries. Streaming/Vtubing is here to stay, and it'll cycle as these things tend to do unless video game companies decide to nuke the streaming scene by enforcing permissions across the board (unlikely, but you never fucking know)

>>9847510
IMO all a vtuber needs to do is secure their core audience and people will show up no matter what while bored onlookers will move on. I would say vtubing is doing well, compared to 2019 and 2020, however covid is a HUGE factor to vtubers getting exponential growth. There really is no specific prediction, and this industry still is in its baby stages compared to streamers (who as a whole also inclined hard during the beginning of covid)
The amount of people learning what vtubers even are far outnumbers people who know what they are, got bored, and stopped watching

>>9847732
Not unless he plays Apex during his graduation.

>>9847510
>In like 2 years what will have to change?
multimedia. hololive will have anime, manga, and games. holofags eating their scuffed idolshit and will be on this list in the future. Breaking 1m+ ccv every premier or idolshit stream.

>>9847510
There's been regular streamers for decades and anime has been relatively popular in the west since the 90's. Vtubers are just streamers + anime. They'll be around for the foreseeable future even if the market contracts and some of the less successful people drop out and look for another way to make a living.

>>9847773
Kuzuha will be fine as he does stuff with celebs regularly, same with Hal as he's a pillar in the JP Apex scene.

Others...need a niche.

>>9846187
Korone
Even if the thumbnail doesn't make any sense, it's definitely eye catching.

>>9847837
I actually laughed out loud at this. I'm just imagining his graduation stream just being a regular Apex stream and then he signs off forever.

>>9847744
Believe it or not most people don't even care about that, it's just a couple people endlessly baiting and replying to bait and spamming the thread with it.

>>9847510
Vtubers as streamers will stagnate as streaming will always be niche compared to Youtube videos, shorts and music
They need to stop being primarily streamers if they want to become more mainstream

>>9847893
realistically that's it. either that or he gets terminated without a last stream.

>>9847639
I feel that vtubers and streamers on general already used up all FOTM games and there aren't good new games recently because covid and that's hurting them

>>9847175
For me, it's Root

>>9848125
riinu get off 4chan

>>9847510
Why do you think Cover is trying to make Hololive a multimedia franchise?
Games, Music, Manga, Anime, VR and lore shit seem to be part of this HoloAlt project.
Of course this is still in the early stages and a project of this scope takes a long time.
The initial announcement of HoloAlt was basically just a recruitment drive to get more artists/creators to apply for their project.

>>9846910
Why would any streaming numbers threads even exist when the 9.5 million record from 2012 hasn't been matched yet?
https://www.redbull.com/int-en/best-of-2012-red-bull-stratos

Gura's base members from a recent poll

My EN2 Oshi is so autistic that she rather play minecraft offstream.
Damn she got 20k by just sorting chestboxes yesterday. If she just stream all her MC activities it'll be easy 12-15k everyday.

Coco's number and sc record was good at the time, but it hurt Cover more than it benefited them in the long run. The battle between Cover and Anykara is more even because of it now.

>>9848354
Have she watched Stens;Gate or A Certain Magical Index/Railgun?? I'll instant member on her jsut to see her watch these

Both fish but how come it's so different...

>>9848354
Thats actually lower than a lot of projections but then you have to assume that those polls never get close to 100% engagement.

>>9848518
Have to see more months before we say that. August was arguably the best month Nijisanji ever had while it was also one of the weaker months Hololive has had yet Hololive still beat them by a sizable amount.

>>9848518
>Is more even now
Kek, wait till they debut jp6

>>9848568
that and i can see some people not bothering to vote since nichijou was a clear winner even when the poll was first posted

>>9848567
>wholesome jazzy karaoke
>horny fish
i wonder how..

>>9848520
Magical Index is hard to watch, quality kept going down per season. Railgun is great, but needs to be familiar to some Index event to enjoy it fully. Steins;Gate story will probably fly over her head and let chat explain to her

>>9848226
Partly because fans were already making all that stuff for free, this way they can capitalize on them directly.
Also, generally the next few steps for a breakout star in a media format, get your brand in other media as well, explore other markets.
The worrying part was always that they seem to be trying too many things at once.

>>9848568
Watchalongs are probably the lowest engagement thing you can make a poll on, so it's a good way of knowing what the floor is for membership at any rate.

>>9848737
I fail to see how this is relevant because they would've debuted them regardless of Coco graduating or not, so it's still a big loss.

>>9848567
one is funny and actually has talent.... the other one jis ust a coom poster

>>9830503
How did Kuzuha get 35k? is he a 30k andy guy now?

>>9848975
Title says splatoon

>>9848777
Her favorite anime is Konosuba but rather than watching something like that she picks a bunch of stuff that is approved by animefags but will probably bore her to tears or confuse her.

>>9848785
That and Gura sounds fucking amazing tonight. Probably the best karaoke she has done. Her next original/Cover needs to be a slower song since that is clearly her strength. My lord she sounds good.

>>9848975
playing not apex

>>9848777
>"sweet and lightning" out of all those animes
*respectful nod*

>>9849039
>>9849123
So Splatoon is a buff game now?

>>9849195
Someone playing a game they don't usually play is a "buff"

>>9849195
more like nijifag are sick of apex and just want variety games. Even Kanae is inclining and he only streamed apex once this month.

>>9846781
Apex would be Valorant without him

>>9849069
>will probably bore her to tear
i dont know why she picked ONLY slice of life comedience. nichijou at least has got better dynamic then others

>>9848887
SC numbers word return back to its original 200M after JP6 debuts/monetized. 200M is an above average peak for Hololive. NIji had a great month from June to August but it's only their summer buff. SCs would go back below 100M and go back above in December.

>>9847510
>or have progressive themes like gura's new evil side
>Chumpedo believe Gura is the first Holo to use an alter ego
Yeah shut the fuck up newfag
https://youtu.be/d7kG2Aub8uM

>>9849195
first time playing

>>9849094
yeah, but i bet next UmiiSea song will be some generic anime stuff.
just imagine how this Shark will stand out with OG jazzy song. this is time for vtuber's go for og sound

>>9849514
Would go back below 100M in Sept-Nov. I'm not surprised if they got to 100-110M. But it's highly unlikely now that it's the middle of the month and there's no significant events that could produce SCs for nijis atm other than that dreaded Lauren birthday

>>9849551

>>9799339
So, where are those 50k viewers so I can shut up?

>>9849701
Gura Jazz/Country/City pop original onegai....
I could imagine a country single in English blowing up across more than just the traditional anime/v-tuber sphere too.

>>9846045
wow, don't know i'm japanese now lol
hi i'm Takeshi, a proud nousagi and kuzuha's fan, nice to meet you

>>9849701
I'm starting to profoundly dislike jpop. Literally can't take any of it anymore, too much spam of same sounding shit.

>>9849807
How could anyone believe Gura would reach 50K in this stream, people are fucking delusional holy shit

>>9849821
YAMERO TAKESHI

>>9849830
To be fair, any music genre became samey on ears if you heard that so much

>>9847837
>>9847893
Funny enough, he discussed about his retirement with Hal a few weeks back. I don't think he's leaving anytime soon though
https://youtu.be/SMQk_emhuqc

>>9849830
what a fucking shame, JPs ve some many great musicians in almost every genres and their jazz is very "special"

https://playboard.co/en/video/6c01v4YiXnc
>2.6k viewers
>$5.9k sc
What the fuck, how is this possible. It seems Coco was always supported by just a select few people who knew who her roomate was. I always thought it was odd that people simped so much for that shitty looking avatar and her non-existent GFE.

>>9850281
Yeah I know, the problem I have is only with the super mainstream stuff that gets overplayed to hell and back. It's the case with super mainstream songs from any country though, like >>9850071 said. Can't help it.

I want to compare the ccv for Gura's ccv for this karaoke and the last one she did, but is holostats missing her last one's data?

>>9850796
It was under 40k iirc, and yes its missing because Holostats fucked up that day.

>>9848354
>anime watc-along
fucking what? gura can barely pull a movie watch along, she is going to drop the anime after a couple of episodes.

>>9849935
And with only jazz. Sry but not my taste of music

>>9849069
people never pick stuff that she likes, she tried to watch 'aliens' for months but people always voted for other movies.

>>9850282
Most vtubers are supported by a small handful of people. It's mostly the 2k or so you see that sit around and watch SC readings.

It's Rosemi's birthday/membership yet it got overshadowed by Gura's karaoke. She only earned $800 today.

40k
doubters BTFO

>>9851201
That's unfortunate, truly. I don't mean that unironically either, to overlap with Gura Karaoke for something important like that is just fundamentally horrible luck. Its like getting run over by a truck that you had no idea was on the road and you were on a crash-course with.

>40k
Was expecting 35K max, but it is also going for longer than 1 hour.

>>9851201
>Rosemi's birthday/membership
>overshadowed by Gura's karaoke
pff

>>9851384
>not 100k

>>9851428
>Gura's unarchived karaoke
>was hyped by several ppl including herself
>Was expecting 35K max
?

>>9851493
Not happening unless its a special event with 3d ever since the December update and covic restrictions coming off in many areas in the US.

>>9851201
$800 is good for her, she's not that popular. Finana finally crawled out of the basement so now it's Rose/Petra fighting over least popular, with another wave probably coming in a few months.

>>9851636
Cope. Kuzuha got 100k playing Apex

So what happened to the daily supachat ranking?

>>9851823
Ah it's retarded o'clock again

>>9851889
It was messed up today because YT was fucking up I think?

All you have to do is filter the term "Kuzuha" and these threads get a millions times better and more civilized.

holy shit, Gura's chat is so fucking green

>>9851384
> couldn't reach 500k

>>9852415
Slowmode always does that

Today's superchats
>>9851889
I'm not a bot anon, I'm gonna be a little later than usual some days

>>9852513
Red Rushia top 1
i..ll take it

>>9852513
>Selen top 10
dragoons, we did it!

>>9852513
Noripro domination!

>>9852513
Indies are taking over

>anniversary buffed karaoke
>not even 50k
>lower than several of her past karaokes
Dead subs? Dead subs

>>9852761
Selen carrying the whole of nijiEN on her back

>>9852969
Even if it reached 50k, you're gonna say it won't reach 60k, 70k, 80k and so on. Could you fuck off?

>>9852969

>>9853095
nah, im not nijien fag but i saw some good numbers from Pomu. Finana, Elira.

>>9853223
>Doesn't have an argument

>>9853223
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/WnHaQOhuj_s
Why can't she get 100k+ anymore? Her subs grow but her viewers decrease. You can't explain that.

>>9853384
music

go back to sleep, SEAniggers

>>9853384

*sigh*>>9832252

>>9852969
>Anniversary buffed
Such a good bait lmao

>>9853384
No, you are wrong because....because you are, schizo.

What's the site used to check total views tracked in real time for a stream?
I'm curious what Gura's stream will hit before she ends it, just for comparison's sake.

>>9853095
Did she get 6k like some people were speculating?

>>9853749
this but unironically

>>9853745
Her words, not mine

>>9853845
shes at 200k
https://livecounts.io/youtube-live-view-counter/tf4drNFLbT4

>>9852858
Anon there's one indie on the entire list, do your のりプロ reps
>>9853095
For superchats at least Pomu dominates Niji EN, Selen is second though

>>9846524
Reminder for the most kino thumbnail of all time

>>9853852
there were no good buff for this yesterday.
stream with Kanae will be Today (jst)

>>9853852
That's tonight's stream with Kanae.

>>9854053
Hiragana is too hard for him, don't make fun of him.

>>9854003
Buffs are related to hype, anon, not to what's written in a schedule. The 1yr anniversary was 2 days ago, there's no buff anymore.

>>9852969

>>9854003
not everyone looks at schedules.

>>9854011
This reminds me that ENs are missing out on 500k-1 mil view VODs for every unarchived karaoke they do.
Imagine how many more 1 mil VODs Gura would have if her karaokes were archived.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTwHCC4stu8
This is the only real karaoke we have that is archived, apart from the short Princess Connect one.

>>9852969
>Dead subs?
What matters is live subs, and she has 41k people watching. 41k is not a low number.

>>9854679
Yeah, its a shame. Her strongest streams can't be archived. Her total channel views and averages would be even higher than they are now.

>>9854644
That, and she doesn't fucking post her schedule to YT anymore, and a sizeable part of her audience likely doesn't fucking use Twitter.
My evidence that she's got a bigger YT following ratio vs other holos?
Every other Holomem except for council and Gura has a Twitter follows to Youtube subs at a level that has a decent correlation. I'll dig up the numbers someone did for that if someone's curious.

>>9854821
at least we ve got Noel's karaoke vods