/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I wish I was a girl

[Microphone Copy Pasta]

Here's a few tips for all of you about microphones for all of you:

First:
-If you are starting, take a look at what you have around, maybe your gaming headset will be good enough to start.
-If you have a rockband mic laying around stored in some box, it may do the job too, stick a pantyhose on top of it to stop plosives, cut a hole on a ceral box to have it serve as a mic stand and voi-lá. This used to be the beginner youtuber special back in 2011~2013 and it worked very well.
-Check the noise reduction filters and equalization in OBS (or maybe use NVIDIA RTX Voice if your card is compatible) for some boost in quality.
The important is to start.
-Study mic technique, a lot of quality improvement can be done without spending a cent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty8YLqOmbV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAKnCEsZ_og

After you begin and you look into into buying a mic to improve your audio quality keep in mind a few things:
-"pro" audio requires a lot of investment in equipment, acoustic treatment, mixing, etc. A lot of your favorite vtubers and regular youtuber and streamers don't have it and do just fine.
-USB mics are generally not the top end of the microphones contrary to what Blue's marketing team may want you to believe, but a good quality one is more than serviceable. If you're not that tech inclined and want an all-in-one quick solution, consider one.
- A good XLR mic, a boom arm, a pop filer and good audio interface will be enough. Don't get lost chasing "the best", don't get lost into the audiophole rabbit hole, it'll cost you a lot of for increasingly diminishing returns that most of your
viewers and won't notice.
- If you are on a tight budget, look for dynamic microphones, a Shure SM-48 with a windscreen, an XLR-to-USB adapter or a cheap audio interface will be cheaper and beat in quality most USB mics at thrice the price.
-Take into consideration your needs - lot of streamers, for example just use condenser mics because it's "studio quality" but can't get the quality they may potentially output or do anything that will really benefit from having one (like raw music vocals to for mixing).
-Going off from the last point, if you are not recording music (I don't mean Karaoke streams with some reverb kicked in, I mean actually recording vocals for mixes or professional voice overs) consider dynamic mics instead of condensers like most big streamers do, it'll save you a lot of headaches.

About Mic types, there are basically two that matter for you.
Condenser mics:
- A lot of people who do livestreams use these; They are your Blue Yetis, AT2020s and similar.
-Usually are called studio mics, and there's a reason for that. While give you a nice voice recording with a fuller range of capture, to make the most out of them you need a controlled, studio environment.
-They are more expensive by themselves, often require more accessories (not only a boom arm, but shock mouths and the like), and are often overly sensitive (which is why you get a lot of mouse and keyboard noises when people are playing).
-To make them sound the best they can will require acoustic treatment of the room you record (because they are sensitive and capture the sound waves bouncing on hard surfaces and that messes with your quality) or home-made recording studio/booth (or a makeshift one, like getting inside of a closet full of clothes or recording inside a pillow for).

Dynamics mics:
-These are the stage mics, most of you will be familiar with handheld ones stick with the little ball on top of it (but many can have different shapes and look as "studio-like" as the Condensers).
-They're usually very good at not capturing the noise that's not immediately in front of them, which is why they're used for concerts, churches, TV, and even presidential speeches (US presidents have been speaking into SM-57s for a many decades now).
- That means you don't really need to have an acoustically treated room and the clicks and clacks of your keyboard and mouse won't be picked so easily, which makes them great for home studios.
- While dynamics can get expensive, due to their construction they'll be less expensive than Condensers. The legendary industry-standard Shure SM58, for example, costs 100 bucks, and even the top models like the RE20 are way cheaper than the high end condensers that cost thousands of dollars.
- Dynamic can also be used for studio recordings - a lot of Rock vocals are recorded on Shure SM-58s because it's gritty; a ton of podcatst and radio studios use the Shure SM-7B (with Joe Rogan being the most famous example), NPR uses the Electro Voice RE27.
- Dynamics however are not as sensitive a as Condensers, they're not ideal for most musicians doing studio recordings unless we're talking rock/metal vocals.

Hope it'll be of use for all of you.
And sorry for double spaces but it's a lot of information and I wanted it to look organized.
Godspeed, anons!
And good luck!

>>951229
I liked thread #12 better

Please guys, share your marketing skills... I can't sail on Twitter

>If you've already debuted, what balance has worked for you? Any pitfalls or traps?
I don't know how you'd define "working" but i've at least gained followers every stream on twitch and have been gaining followers daily on twitter (not quickly, but the number is going up). I don't think I'm doing anything that people couldn't figure out on their own; I interact with posts like png dumps (usually both dropping my design and replying to a design i like in the thread), I follow users around or slightly above my own following, I'll usually follow back most people that choose to follow me with very few exceptions, and I'll drop by streams of other indies whose designs or personality i find interesting, as well as the streams of those who drop into mine.
One thing that I've more or less avoided doing that I see a lot of others do is make posts talking about milestones and saying things like "oh wow I'm so close to x number!" which usually seems to bait people into following them. While I know it probably works it seems like a really blatantly greedy "give me followers" move. Giveaways are also kinda like that but at the very least you're giving something to people in exchange for attention. I've considered doing them before but everytime I've hit a potential milestone where I could it kinda feels wrong
I don't think either of those are problems though and if you really want to get more follows it probably works; I've seen people in the 1000s still making posts talking about their increasing follower counts.
Another thing I noticed is that some people pretty much get their followings by following a fuckton of people though I feel like this is something that gets more effective when you grow your following size. Some vtubers seem to really want to keep a low follower/following ratio while some just dont care. If they see that they got followed by someone with like 500-1000 followers when they only have like 100 or less, they're probably more inclined to follow back
This is kind of a mess but it's some things that I've observed while trying to grow my presence

What amount of people in this threads are women (female), if its less than 50% then this general is never gonna make it.

VOTE
http://www.strawpoll.me/42688149
http://www.strawpoll.me/42688149
http://www.strawpoll.me/42688149

Can any of the female anons be my gf?

>>952478
sure

but you need to sign on as one of my vtubers for my startup vtuber company

>>952417
Here's your answer >>952453
43% of the thread is males trying to be males, though someone already asked last thread if we were gonna make it, keep up

>>952453
>60% male
>40% "female"
ngmi

>>951229
I know I am not gonna make it this year, but that is okay. I am just using audition as a motivator to kick off my voice acting and vtuber hobby! I have a plan of action!
I am going to commission this very very very talented but under rated artist for a png avatar, and just stream with that until I have enough saved to get a full character sheet and rigger! She has never done a vtuber character sheet before, but I hope she would be willing to try it in the future. She really is talented and I want her work to be seen, so if I am successful I want her to be successful in equal parts. I will also practice my Japanese and Russian language skills! I need to get better at video and audio editing, right now I only know how to use Windows Movie Maker, OBS, and Audacity but I should learn Sony Vegas too! I also need a cool skill, and additionally need to get better at singing.
Someone like Mori is so remarkably talented, it kind of feels a little rude to apply knowing I'm lame.

man i really hate the larger vtuber community, it's just pronouns and the usual stupid twitter crowd just with anime avatars... art raffles, preaching about positivity and shit, it's so fake and gay
i love doing what i do and i'm almost an affiliate but it's hard to network when i genuinely can't stand any of the bigger names who would be advantageous to network with yknow?

>>952501
What does this contract entail? Will you pat me on the head and let me call you mommy?

>>952655
If you don't have streaming experience, don't apply. You're not going to make it, and there's always the chance that your prior audition will be used to discount any future ones. Just wait for the future. If you really want the audition experience, make your tape but don't send it.

>>952927
Do they keep that on file? I kind of figured I could just apply next year with a different YT linked, plus a Twitch channel and they wouldn't really catch it. Do they really keep track of your name to that extent?

>>952702
fellow /auds/ists and some /wvt/'s recommended vtubers are your only chance. the latter seem tame compared to fake and gay "vtubers".

Shit didnt realise there was a new thread. Update on my vroid(still a wip). now going to sleep as long as possible.

I'm a guy but I'm gonna become a sexy lady vtuber who vapes into the mic and is like one of the guys! I have a masterful girl voice and am pretty confident I can trick some simps into buying memberships what do you think everyone

>>953406
>what do you think
stop tweeting, start creating
let's see it in action

>>953396
Cute

>>952702
if you don't like the way the general twitter crowd is you could always just end up moving towards the /wvt/ crowd who on social media seem separated from a huge number of that community if "mutual followers" is any sort of number to go by
It's not like they're outwardly known as 4channers to the twitter crowd from what I can tell; the only way you'd really be able to figure it any connection out is by also being here

>>953555
fuck you how about that

I just tweeted about how your dad's gay

>>953736
ngmi

You'll pull a Nyanners card when you become popular anyway, so what's the point?

>>953755
I bet you'd have thought the same thing about gar gura when he was just starting out. Fucking haters are so gay

>>953777
>pull a Nyanners

you mean BTFO your pedo fans?

>>953825
ngmi, seethe harder

>>953841
I'm gonna be the biggest vtuber out there and I'm capping your posts so everyone can laugh at you when I'm on hololive and making bank

COPE

Screencap this right now, I'm going to be so popular that I'll get famous enough to collab with Pekora. She'll fall madly in love with me then I'll ask her live on stream to marry me and we'll be the world's first streaming married vtuber couple!

BASED

>>953929
no you wont she is not a snowbunny she doesnt like your kind

>>951708
You didn't know how right you were

>>951584
A part of me knows that the female vtuber market is bigger
A part of me knows that this would be easier if I was a girl
A part of me knows that if I was a girl, I might not be interested in this fandom
A part of me knows that I would not deal with periods well
A part of me knows that I should just enjoy being a guy and keep doing my best every day

>>954046
stop watching cartoons about little girls and your autismo brain will eventually stop obsessing over the idea of being a little girl

>>954074
The last cartoon I watched was One Duck Dodgers

>>953929
I thought nijisanji's salaryman and succubus were married?

>>954046
>Be boy
>Become Man
>Decide to be girl for financial gain
>become female vtuber
>dont say you are tranny, just female

>>954309
unfortunately there's a reason trap characters are voiced by women

>>953825
>you mean BTFO your pedo fans?
>pedo fans
Try all of 4chan instead. She sold out for that Tumblr dick super hard. Which is ironic since Tumblr nuked all of its art community but spared the actual pedos and drug dealers.

>>955634
>Try all of 4chan instead.

I'm on 4chan and still like her. Have you tried not being a pedophile?

>>954074
>pseudoscience

>>955660
why do you think there are so many trans women and "traps" who grew up watching anime entirely centered around girls?

what do you guys think of my audition tape?

https://files.catbox.moe/dm9yj1.mp4

>>955690
That's just mixing up cause and effect, these people were already prone to insanity. The real problem is we closed down the asylums and let crazy people do whatever they want

>>955774
I keep seeing this as a meme and I haven't been able to watch through it so far...
It's so painful.

>>955774
This is how the average vtuber looks irl

Guys your old thread is still up after 6 hours, stop shitting up the catalog with TWO of these threads and post in your threads until they die like everyone else here manages to

>>953298
>>953604
that does sound like the right move for me since i especially don't want to be mixed in with the multitude of generic copy/paste bio twitter types, even if doing that might harm my growth in the short term. thanks for the compass guys, still pretty new.

Are there any good examples of male vtubers that aren't either fujobait bishonens, draw-girl-call-it-guys, shota traps or literally just guys that use completely female avatars? Someone with a genuinely masculine and adult aesthetic, the best I could find was Belmond and Kongou but I'm sure there are others out there. I'm experimenting with designs to try and make the male scene work without having to resort to harem themes that 99% never work or everyone else in the "female vtubers work so just make the male vtubers female" camp, so the more inspiration, indie or obscure preferred, the better.

>>953396
it's coming along nicely

I have a rigged model in the works, but I feel like I could never build enough hype or have a good enough voice for this stuff. Having small regrets but I really want to do this.

>>959134
start building hype on twitter and try to listen to yourself speak through your microphone

>>959134
>have a good enough voice for this stuff
Everyone hates their own voice at first because we hear ourselves through the vibrations of the soundwaves through our skull, and the proximity to the liquids in your ears makes you think your voice is deeper.
The dissonance between it and the recorded voice is significant. Start listening to your recorded voice and getting used to it.
If ultimately you won't thing you'll make it because of your voice, listen to Ironmouse squal and realize that people watch her despite that. If that's not enough, go look at some japanese babiniku with agressive voice changers that make their voice clearly artificil and people still watch them.

>>959082
Kongou does not pander to fujos or court their audience...

>>959177
I've not been one to be good at twitter, do I have to act like I'm even vaguely interested in pronouns and "having big dream of many follow" in order to get the attention of people?

>>959082
Tried this yet?
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Male
It's not comprehensive in any way but still

>>959538
yes if you want to sell out and blend in with the thousands of other losers doing the exact same thing in an already oversaturated niche of an oversaturated hobby

>>959289
your reading reps... they literally asked for people that aren't fujobait
>>959538
depends on how fast you're trying to get attention
i haven't said anything on any sort of political topic and i don't beg for followers and i'm still getting followed and people are still engaging with me

>>959082
Benosphere (streaming now I believe) and Takahata

>>958684
You can start from top of the paste bin. Widest appeal being Koopa (heretuber) and Nina (not a channer).

>>959134
Doing it solo is pretty tough, if you have any friends who are interested in vtubing see if you can form a unit with them and focus on collabs.

Just talking with nobody to bounce off can be rough, so it's somewhat of a substitute for having an audience to interact with.

>>953396
Not bad, I think the head is a tad too wide though, maybe try squishing it just a little?

>>953406
I mean, you have to absolutely own it. Plenty of good female characters being voiced by men (Tina from bobs burgers is another example off the top of my head), going too perfectly girly will backfire though, you need a certain level of nod/wink ambiguity.

Do I really need a stream overlay? I have everything to debut but no overlay

>>961677
Just google free stream overlay.
Or make a 1920x1080 px image, paste a pattern-based wallpaper into it and cut a 16:9 hole to frame your game footage and be done with it.

So do you have a plan beyond streaming? Will you be making traditional content too or just re-uploaded clips?

>>962276
I've been doing weekly teaching streams and initially I thought about clipping parts of that into a highlight reel but then I realized it might be better to take key parts of the lesson into a short, scripted videos
I also plan on releasing some song covers as well

>>962276
My focus is actually much more on youtube content with streams planned for a later date

Using so many different fiver and twitter artists for everything makes me worried that my channel will feel like a frankenstein monster of different art styles, despite trying to be consistent with it

Anyone doing this realise just how many dumb sounds you make while playing games? I guess in a way I kinda feel like I'm on camera so I have to fill the space with something even if I'm not talking. I guess people with better self control can make cuter sounds than me tho.

>>962860
Lmao yes, welcome to my persona hell.
I've also noticed how much completely nonsensical rambling I do on any given topic.

I found it encouraging though to watch other streamers and listen for these same issues, because trust me, you aren't the only one making stupid sounds
It's actually very relieving to hear how many times popular streamers say "um" or the nervous "like" a million times. it's much easier to notice when it's you doing it, but everybody has that issue at some point

Anybody know a place I can commission an animated loop to be used as my outro?

Fiver had left a lot to be desired

With the amount of time I've spent trying to come up with a good character design by myself, I could have debuted and had several videos under my belt before gen2 of HoloID even debuted, had only I just commisioned an artist at the time. It's probably time I concede defeat and just get a character designer to do the job for me. Feel like such a fucking idiot for wasting all this time in photoshop and trying to learn how to draw. I've gone through so many ideas and drafts, I have text documents and psd files all over my desktop that I've spent hours on that are never going to bear fruit.

I'm gonna make it bros I fucking swear. No more retardation. I'm gonna get some extra shifts, work my ass off, and get that comission.

i dont know to rig live2D but i can proficiently do after effects and general motion graphics. i wonder if i can do a loops of a bunch of generic movements and trick people into thinkig its face tracking because lets be honest most tracking and rigging looks like complete shit anyways even for something like hololive

>>963377
At the very least, you can provide those drafts to a character designer to give them an idea of what they want. I've heard a lot of artists hear that even a rough drawing helps, especially if there's some specific direction you want to take

>>962860
im a lot better with a friend but half the time im just saying nigger

>>963604
It's not unheard of but the reason people don't already do that is because Live2D makes things infinitely easier. Once it's rigged it's rigged.

You would be better off just getting a commission

Does this look shit? My character theme is military

>>963767
the text font needs a change

>>963779
Gonna change it looking back on it, I was trying to go for that 60-70s/woodstock feel...does it seem like that at all?

>>963823
not that anon, but i agree, the font looks real cartoony

>>963767
Doesn't look like shit, but looks kinda amateur and unprofessional. Texture the border a bit and add some shadows creeping in from the side

>>963767
It's pretty low effort.
Use a larger camo pattern or even lower contrast if possible. Preferably don't use camo for the entire layout.
Twitter logo should be a flat color, preferably white.
Use a more military aligned font for your text, should be easy to find one if you care enough, but dafont is a good place to look. Just remember to click on 100% free fonts when searching.

>>963767
i think you ahould make an overlay that lets the game go full screen. personally i want to see as much game as possible and then maybe the facecam/avatar. the overlays with all the socials, donation/sub goals always looks amature as hell and if you dont have great UX and graphic design skills it also looks cheap

Thinking longer term, is it reasonable to expect baseline growth over the years if I consistently put out good or okay quality videos, but don’t really fill a niche? Sort of like nakeyjakey (poor example because he’s a huge channel), who does videos half on videogames, half on whatever.

>>964160
contradicting yourself there since nakeyjakey's thing is still videogames if it makes up the majority of his content

>>964160
sounds like the system would work. if you have a steady stream of your "main" content, and then also regularly explore different subjects and see what your audience responds to. if it's good, try more of it, if it flops, recycle the idea and try something else, but maintain a steady stream of your core content.

>>964160
The broader your niche is, the more talented you need to be.

>Working on avatar
>Draw one eye
>Comes out as intended after a couple tries
>Now the other
>Over half a dozen attempts and going
Fuck I should have really listened to my art teacher a long time ago regarding me working on being able to succesfully replicate things that came out well rather than just relying on them happening.

>>964443
copy paste and flip, my friend

>>964443
If you're doing a front shot you can just copypaste the other eye and then work over it

>>964213
Well yeah, but it’s not any videogame in particular. Although you’re right, still counts as a niche. I guess I underestimated how broad a niche can be.
>>964219
>>964390
Yeah makes sense. Also perhaps the experience gained over that broad niche converts to talent if done right, so there will be improvement over time.

Will it reflect you poorly on future applications if you dub Saya no Uta?

>>964160
critikal is prob closer to what you are describing considering he just opens card packs, cooks, eats condoms, play games. from what ive seen only huge channels can just churn out random garbage and has fan eat it up

>>964639
Good example to analyse. Also notable that he didn’t really stand out that much when he started 12 years back, but put out videos constantly all the time. Although he did start with a specific niche, I think it was pretty broad at the time.

>>964790
yeah his whole appeal back then was just playing really bad games and chopping up his commentary to the funny parts and he also had a nice voice to listen to

I did some tweaking to it. Im thinking about removing the activity text entirely.... but does the text look any better? Its supposed to be a vietnam theme which is based on the theme of my design. How does the rest of it look?

>>965052
make the twitter logo white
also the text is still off, I have no idea what frame of reference you're using to make that font choice of all the possible ones you could have chosen. it'd be very easy to look into 1970s designs and see what was relevant, and then base your choices off of there

>>965052
This is an imediate improvement

>>965052
The background is much better

>>952927
>there's always the chance that your prior audition will be used to discount any future ones
Wait seriously? I would think failing once and applying again would show dedication. Didn't Kiara have to try a few times?

>>952927
>there's always the chance that your prior audition will be used to discount any future ones
you're fucking retarded and probably grew up wrong if you think being bad in the past means nobody will care if you're good now. as the other anon said Kiara tried multiple times for JP and even Nenechi tried 3 times before one finally went through.

>>965933
yeah never heard of that before.

>>962860
I guess I never noticed it, but I tend to make autistic screeches when I play games. My friend recorded a game with me cause he wanted to make a compilation, but he couldn't make use of it cause I was making retarded noises every other minute in the video.

>>966002
>>965933
To be fair he said that theres always a "chance" which there certainly is, but theres also a chance that you could get your house broken into by a cow and win the powerball at the same time.

>>965052
that doesn't look very vietnam, have you tried something like this https://www.ffonts.net/4077th.font

>>966013
Ame makes weird noises during her streams but female buff and gremlin energy let's her get away with it

>>966062
Unfortunately I have the male debuff.

>>965933
many of them failed many times. nene and subaru both said they had to practically brute force their way in and im sure kiara failed jp auditions and only got in through EN

Secured another two twitter followers today

I know it's absurdly tiny baby steps, but it's nice to have a feeling of progression even while I'm waiting on my commissions

>>965143
I think it looks better with the camo since it fits the theme, I feel like it balances it well

>>966055
Gave it a try, I think it looks nice. Wasn't going to use it initially because I thought it was a bit cliche but I think it works decently. The last font was suppossed to be the font used on the buildings in Hanoi , but I guess it doesn't work too well for english words.

>>966478
>I think it looks better with the camo since it fits the theme, I feel like it balances it well
There's nothing to balance when there's no contrast in the first place. It's not eye-catching if it doesn't stand out from the background, and it should preferably be matching with your text anyway. "Fitting theme" isn't synonymous with good visual design.

>>966478
>I think it looks better with the camo since it fits the theme, I feel like it balances it well
I also like the camo. I feel like it might depend a bit on what your tubah looks like, but I say keep it

>>966478
It looks really nice anon, I like it

If any of you fucking neets make it...
Live the good life for all of us.

>>951229
Is audio only audition too boring? I thought of making some simple drawings to accompany my audio, but I am terrible at drawing and wonder if that will look worse.

>>968325
know your limits and just do audio, they'll understand, that's the whole point of the audition

>>959082
In terms of design, CLARITYen. A team of robots.

Other mentions:
https://mobile.twitter.com/TkbotEisen
https://mobile.twitter.com/nobelnovice

https://gumroad.com/thececile#fwWRq

Is this what a rigger would want for rigging?

>>970400
If it's layered properly then yeah, but I'm not gonna spend money to check for you.

>>970502
i think i'm gonna buy it. looks like a 30 min process video on her vtuber design.

>>959962
You realize all the top EN vtubers pretend to care right? Not rocking the boat is pretty important for success

I want to be a vtuber but not stream or at least not only stream. I want to be closer to the style of kizuna ai then the hololive girls. Just making videos. Would this be feasible or would the debuff be too big.

>>970719
no, tons of youtubers do videos like this. you could do like video essays or whatever, just that you would have an avatar.

>>970719
you'd need a pretty animated avatar, but yeah, it's pretty common all over youtube already
just try not to be as cringe as debate tubers

>>970877
>>970954
Yeah, now that I think about it there are some youtubers that do this they just don't have an anime avatar. I was worried because the only one with an anime avatar that wasn't part of that original wave was that one fucking babaniku dramatuber.
I'll probably go for it. Where to get a good avatar feels like the hard part right now

>>951229
I have previous streaming experience but I haven't streamed on my old Twitch channel for a year, and I think it is too edgy to use for my application. I might just have to stream indie this year and apply next year, I don't want a bad reputation now. I thought the having put out content previously qualifier was a preference not a requirement.

Gonna need some advice here.
I'm starting to notice my voice doesn't match the character I'm trying to go with. The model I've already rigged is basically this image, but with Gin Dojima's face. Not that it matters, since it's covered by a mask, but I don't know how to draw, so I had to improvise a bit.
Also, sorry for the pases every now and then. I need a moment every now and then to gather my thoughts and another one to translate them in my mind.
https://voca.ro/12cgnAcsUvF5

I'll probably stream completely in spanish, but I can put subtitles on in case any weird gringo feels like watching a spic. I could also try to schedule some spanglish or english only streams, because I really want to train my pronounciation and listening skills.
Give me some feedback before I end up doing an Ame-debut-tier first stream.
Not like I can stream yet. I still need spare parts to fix my computer and due to corona-chan, I can't get any job in my small-ass town. Still, knowing is half the battle.

>>975442
speak more using the voice in your lungs and gut, less from your nose and mouth. your voice is pretty light and wispy, makes it kinda difficult to hear and understand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4SW_xMueXU

>Navigating the parasocial relationship
Should you ever make friends with individual viewers you like?
Should you ever make friends with your mod team or keep a business relationship with them?
Should you ever make friends with other vtubers or are they just there only because you're a vtuber and they want your numbers?
Is it viable just doing your own thing without making any connections to the 'community'?
How do you spot people just using you for clout?

Help me not get fucked over, /auds/

>>975671
I was in the roof and with the phone a bit far from my mouth, but you're right. I'll train my voice while I'm still unable to work with a computer.

>>975811
"Yes, but only if it occurs naturally." is the answer to 1, 2, and 3. Friendship comes organically. There's no reason to not be friends with a viewer, mod, or another vtuber as long as it happens in a normal way. Have you never had friends before?

To be honest, and I'm not trying to look like a shitter but i don't see anyone here ever being successful, the mindset I see in these /aud/ and /wvt/ threads are just so skewed and no one knows a single thing about people, just their weird narrowed view of the internet after growing up on 4chan.

Good rule of thumb: If they only hang out with you on stream and only talk about stream, they're probably clout chasers. Friendships are a two way street, "business relationships" are a whole different thing.

>>976329
>Have you never had friends before?

>>975811
>Should you ever make friends with individual viewers you like?
Why not? If you like them, I'd keep some distance though as to not doxx/unmask yourself
>Should you ever make friends with your mod team or keep a business relationship with them?
If you want a business relationship, pay mods.
If they're volunteers, then why not? Just make sure to tell them that depite your friendship you expect them to follow the rules and not being dicks. .
>Should you ever make friends with other vtubers or are they just there only because you're a vtuber and they want your numbers?
Listen, you'll make friends with people - if only because you have a common hobby and will naturally have what to talk with people who do the same.
Just keep in mind that if someone who never talked to you before approach you about collabs, or tries to rush some relationship into collabing you may want to take a moment or two to evaluate the situation.
>Is it viable just doing your own thing without making any connections to the 'community'?
There's no community, there are a bunch of cliques of people chasing after each other. The word community exists so established cliques can assert dominance over newcomers.
But yes, you have to just build your own community - it'll be slower, but you'll likely be freer to do your stuff if you don't worry about what others think.
Just keep in mind though, if your objective is to eventually pass an aution be prudent with your freedom and keep your content within what would be acceptable by normalfags.
>How do you spot people just using you for clout?
Look at their track record of collabs - do they interact with former collab partners? Do they badmouth former collab partners? Do they desperately try to get you to collab with them?
>Help me not get fucked over, /auds/
You'll get fucked regardless, take your lumps and learn from them.

>>975811
>friends with individual viewers
sure, why not, as long as they're chill. if they try to use their friendship with you as clout, drop them like a bag of rocks.

>friends with mod team
yeah, always. at least be on a friendly basis with them so they know what kind of boundaries you like to keep in and around chat outside of the obvious

>friends with vtubers?
if it happens, it happens, they're just streamers like you. it's obvious to tell when someone is only trying to shill themselves in your community though, so be sure to stamp that shit out asap.

>viable doing your own thing?
yeah, but it'll definitely be a bit of an uphill battle. that doesn't mean you should be pandering to the vtuber community. just do what you like doing and be the best at it.

>How do you spot people just using you for clout?
the most obvious ones will just sperg in chat, spam their own accounts, or even superchat you trying to beg for attention

>>975442
>Luchador VTuber
>Is latino and not latinx
Fucking nice

>>951229
Please, sell a kidney, suck a dick, get a job, whatever but please don't get a png avatar It's the lamest shit ever.

>>953396
>>961060
Thanks, anon. looks way better now

>>978282
I don't think its particularly bad if its a placeholder until your live2D is ready

>>978282
k, i'll make sure i pander specifically to you and your tastes when i make my videos and streams, anon

Yay!

>>979176
Congrats, making that first step is always a very harrowing one. Even if you don't get accepted, you've made it further than most.

>>979176
good luck, anon

Stupid question about comms since I'm about to start outreach, are you using your 'normal' payment accounts and just assuming professionalism from the artist or do I need to set up yet another separate account for opsec bs?

>>983035
if you use Paypal, it's HIGHLY recommended that you use a Paypal Business account established under the "Streaming Services" category and under your brand/channel name to collect payments. If you use a regular Paypal account, they'll see your full name and address, plus a bunch more other info that you probably don't want getting out there.

>>963767
Change it up, don't use pure camouflage but add in some actual foliage type stuff if you can for some "texture", or perhaps some more metallic style stuff or things you'd see at a boot camp of base like banners or whatever

>>979855
>>982536
Thanks anons!

>>983156
thanks anon, PayPal was what I was wondering most about.

>>951229
Is there even any money in this as a male VA? I've been thinking about trying as a lovably dumb scarecrow but if it's a waste of time fuck it.

People do it for money?

>>983364
Depends. I've made about 5K (USD) doing it fairly regularly over a year, with 2k of it going back into stream (games, assets, hardware for my PC that helped but I probably wouldn't have bought), but I like to think I'm a likeable funny person otherwise people wouldn't give me their money.

It really takes not being a cringe anime fan to succeed as a guy, but the approval of girl vtubers (meaning an ability to just talk to them like human beings) helps a lot getting noticed because they'll promote you to their larger audiences.

>>983429
I wouldn't call myself a cringe anime fan, and I'd like to think I'm pretty sociable. As a male vtuber what do you do that gets you the most attention?

Networking with girl vtubers also seems like a good way to go.

>>983364
If you are only about money pander to fujos.

>>983533
But anon, that was my plan all along. A bishie-as-fuck looking scarecrow dude. With some tasteful stitching and a bit of hay in the mouth for the look.

>>983596
are you sure that's what the fujos actually want, or are you just assuming that's what fujos want?

>>983715
>he doesn't know about the classic ikemen who fucks the scarecrow

>>983715
I have no idea what fujos actually want, all I can go by is what seems to sell to them.

>>983729
>>983736
you should do some research into figuring out what late 20s, early 30s fujos want to see, want to spend money on, and actually have the disposable income necessary to fund such purchases.

those under 25 won't have cash to drop for superchats and memberships, those over 35 won't get the anime-aesthetic and will also most likely have other obligations that require the money.

>>983793
Well, depends on what you mean by fujos in this case. I'm operating under what I've seen that fujos get really into, which is the whole 'bishie oblivious vaguely innocent' thing. Seems to get a whole lot of attention from that demographic in weeb spaces.

>>983886
does it translate to vtubers?

>>983897
But of course.

>>983911
[x]doubt, but you're free to prove everyone here wrong. you won't be the first to try that angle. if you go for it, then good luck.

>>983793
>Fujos
Won't you have to act gay with another guy for this to fully work?

>>983886
That weird looking Sykkuno guy plays up that angle, and makes bank! Good thinking!

>>983942
you really don't. you can just do a collab with another male vtuber and have some amount of basic chemistry and fanartists will ship the two of you together regardless.

>>983964
Can confirm. I have this.

>>983964
Im sure my character would attract only male nerds anyways so I think im fine anways

>>983533
Yeah because that's worked for how many ENVtubers? Takahata is the only one I can think of and he's a charismatic content creator outside of VTubing. The fujo market is absolutely a waste of time and alienates you from the main market, which is male focused. Unless you have actual acting experience, you'll just be so cringe neither sex wants to watch you.

>>983942
>>983964
Does it work for holostars? I have to assume it does.

Wish cover had an ENG branch. Be easier to get traction that way.

>>984074
Check out oga's streams and read what the jp comments are saying, especially when he does asmr or any type of late night chatting....its 100% dusty-wombed women. Or better yet check some of the jp accounts that comment under oga's posts

>>984074
>Does it work for holostars?
it does, but you have to keep in mind differences in audience reception due to culture. it may not be something that you'd be able to re-create 1:1 if you're an EOP or primarily western vtuber.

>>984106
The funny thing it's the same market that buys all the shitty romance novels.

But from the sounds of it no ENvtuber has been able to tap that market.

>>983493
I try and be genuine. I think the main thing about me people like is that I'm likeable, which sounds like circular thinking but that's really all it takes for guys. You just want to be the guy who people wanna hang out with. I'm pretty much the same on stream as off, I'm just lower energy off stream but my personality doesn't change much.

I feel you don't need as much of a character as a guy unless you're just going full RP or something. I talk to my chat as if they're "one of the boys" hanging out together after school or something. Think about how you talk with your really close friends.

One thing to not, while it wasn't a "business decision" or anything, it did click a few months in that a lot of male vtuber watchers maybe never got the "one of the boys" experience, and maybe I provide that to them? Lots of guys here are definitely fucking weirdos but if you can at least pretend not to be you'll be fine

>>984234
>Think about how you talk with your really close friends.
I don't know if I'd be that successful broadcasting my fetishes and calling other fetishes shit taste.

>>962860
Isn't that the point of vtubers, to make cringe ASMR soundbytes that sound blessed because nobody knows who you are?

>>983156
>>983283
Back because I started to go through this and I felt like it was wanting me to fill out 'legit' business details (like for a company or freelancer that should have a TIN and stuff) plus asking for my last four of SSN. Is there really no issue with just calling it my channel name (which I'm only about 99.9% set on) and putting in personal address and so on for the rest?

At this point I also might just wait until I'm sure who is a fit for my comm and see what methods they want to use.

>>983156
Yo what?
That's something you can set up?

Please give me a tutorial for dumdums, because I have no idea how to do this.

>>965933
>Didn't Kiara have to try a few times?
>>966145
>and im sure kiara failed jp auditions and only got in through EN
Dead rrat, she only applied for Holo EN AFTER Gen 5 was already established. Before that she casually knows about Fubuki and that's about it.

>>952453
>Female portraying a female 31%
>Male portraying a female 13%
can you trannies be honest and stop saying you are female? thx

>>988049
There's really not much to explain. When creating a new account just click business instead of personal

>>983156
Like the other anon said, is there any way to go about doing this and being able to use your channel name without becoming an "official" business?
Doing that in my country requires you to register your business name if it's not your irl name you are operating as, and that puts both your business name and irl name in a public registry anyone can search turning this from a "click paypal and get doxxed" issue to a "click paypal, copy paste name into registry and get doxxed" issue

>>983364
>>983596
>Scarecrow character with fujo audience
>Collab with a robot and cat boy vtuber frequently
>Name your group "Oz"
>Talk about wanting to "find your dorothy"
>???
>Profit

>>990900
Is there any sort of legal/financial bullshit about having multiple Paypal accounts open? i.e. I already have a personal account, and want to open a new one along these lines

>>952453
>finally 2 females portraying males
Please be biological

what's the legality of reading aloud books? I saw Ina and Gura stream themselves reading Spice and Wolf and Konosuba chapter 1. I know those were sponsored but could an indie so something like that?

>>996484
An indie could probably get away with it because the company that made the book would probably never find them unless they got really big

>>996484
According to Twitch TOS reading books is a unique creative creation so you are fine. Companies can always ask to take your stream down.

>>996484
>what's the legality of reading aloud books?
Is the book in the public domain or available under a permissible license (such as Creative Commons-BY)?
If yes, totally legal.
Project Gutember has loads of those:
>>https://www.gutenberg.org/
And librivox has a load of audiobooks made from the source material in such books:
>>https://librivox.org/

Is the book still under copyright protection (i.e. the author is alive or 50~70 years - depending on the jurisdiction -haven't passed since his or her death)? The answer is no, it's not legal.
You'd be violating 6 of the 8 minimum rights of the author granted by the Berne copyright convetion, of which pretty much the entire civilized world is part of.

>>996547
No, not really. Not anymore at least, now that the audiobook market is blowing up thanks to Amazon and Audible.
I've seen a actual boomer (as in, actual post-WWII generation) that had less than 200 subs have his youtube account taken down because Penguin Random House DMCA'd his account over his read-along of Dune.

>>996874
jesus who knew they took book readings so seriously. thanks for the gutenberg link, I'll take a look through that.

>>996925
Project Gutemberg is great and there's a lot of good stuff you could read.
Start by going over the "Search and Browse" and click "Most Downloaded", you'll find a lot of interesting stuff, such as War of the Worlds, Moby Dick, Alice in Wonderland, Dracula, Frankenstein, Gulliver Travels, etc.
All the original works of Robert E. Howard (Conan the barbarian) and Edgar Rice Burroughs (A princess of Mars/John Carter's Barsoom Saga/Tarzan) are in the public domain too.

Of course, there won't be anime light novels, but, if you get a following and don't mind going through the sewage that is amateur fiction in order to find something interesting, you could go to a place like Tapas, that has a bunch of weebs writing their anime-style light novels. It's 80% crap, but there's some decent stuff there and if you like something contact the author for permission.

Do you get horny by watching your vtuber ego?

>>979176
You will be my first oshi. Ganbatte.

>>998903
I mostly just cringe because I'm still not used to the sound of my voice (probably never will).

>>998949
Start editing clips/highlight videos. You may not like ever really like your voice but you'll eventually get used to it.
The real hell comes after it, when you get past your voice and start noticing your speech patterns and even worse is later when you notice all sorts of breathing, saliva, and lip smacking noises you never realized you actually did and get paranoid about them.
You'll try to desperately get rid of them with filters/noise supressors/gates, only to realize some time later that everyone does it and without them your speech sounds artificial and finally make peace with yourself.
It's a wild ride.

>>999162
thanks for the nightmares anon, looking forward to noticing those in my speech patterns now, fuck

So I've been seeing all these vsingers of all sizes cover different songs - how do they get the rights? With the current algorithm they have to be legit and at the same time I doubt it's through emails. Is there some copyright central they're using, or?

>>1000684
JASRAC (Japanese Society for Rights of Authors, Composers and Publishers) - one of the rights associations for music in Japan - has a list of works that it allows to be used and performed for Karaoke and Covers as long as you do your own mix of the instrumental (i.e. you don't use official instrumental versions for it).
To find what's the list - look up on their database (in Japanese) or just see what the popular youtubers are doing.
I also believe NexTone (the other major copyright agency) also has such agreement.
Keep in mind though those covers are not monetized, they do it for exposure.

>>1001499
So what would be the English equivalent of this?

>>1000684
They don't archive the streams, and so there is nothing to copystrike

>>1002177
I was more thinking about people like
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7Gow-kNHq21oejSIDg9PAg/videos
Who do not do karaoke, but releases covers as VODs.

>>1001642
There's none.
Japanes ones only gave a fuck because of Karaoke being well established part of the Japanese social life, as well pressure of the record labels so they wouldn't have to strike down videos and instead collect Ad revenue from them.
And ultimately it only exists in the current form because the agreement was initially made for NicoNico adn then extended to other publishers later.

The problem is that ith western music associations you're at their mercy.
They may just claim Ad Revenue today leave your Karaoke/Cover up (which is how so many cover channels exist) and eventurally strike you down years later - especially with the RIAA being the cunts they are.
You either buy a Cover license from the record label/rights management company, or you try your luck against the bastards and pray the youtube bots and the record labels leave you alone.

>>1002177
Unarchived streams ultimately don't protect you as Youtube has realtime Content ID. I've seen YT shut down streams due to copyright infrigement live.
It may be that you stream will only get tagged with Contend ID matches, and you take it down so they eventually don't become copyright strikes if the record label changes its mind later - so you're "safe".
If the record label has the setting on the Content ID to be more restrictive though, you may have your video taken down, get a copyright strike or have your channel taken down.

western copyright law is a steaming pile of shit i hate it so much

>>1003876
People like J.Fla manage to make it work.

>>1002992
Question: can you get flagged and/or taken down if you do a cover a capella?
I sometimes tend to sing parts of songs whenever I'm nervous, so I'm scared I'll get my channel nuked one day for some unconscious decisions.

>>1002992
Theoretically, yes.
The likelihood of that happening is way too small. Be savvy about copyright, but don't get paranoid.

Are giveaways a good way to grow your reach or are they seen as transparent and desperate

>>1006286
Do they even work?

>>1006286
People don't really seem to mind if you're giving away something you're actually creating (like an art giveaway). They will get you follows, but don't expect them to actually care about you or your content.

>>1007542
Having momentum, even from people who do not give a shit, is a good way to slip into the algorithm and be shown to more people who DO give a shit.

In theory, anyway

How much have you invested? Including things like hardware and commissions
How much do you plan to invest before you debut?

Currently looking at about 1500 which is far more than I originally planned but I'm blessed enough to be able to take it all out of my tax return

>>1007826
$1000+ on a whole new desktop
$900 on my model and rigging
$140 mic (was gift)
$80 webcam
$40 headset

>>1007923
Not bad but you probably could have cheaped out on the webcam a bit

>>1008012
The webcam was slightly impulsive but I wanted to make sure I had one that tracked well and as a bonus this one works well in low light. There's more expensive for sure and it's way cheaper than upgrading my phone so it could be worse.

>>1008315
>>1008012
Does the webcam type really matter?

Hello all. We have a discord up for /vtm/ at https://discord.gg/Qc8XdCya

It's seen a reasonable amount of productive activity recently. It's primarily for male chuubas.

>>1008572
Better webcam better tracking.

>>1008738
What specs should I be looking for while picking one out? Bitrate?

>>1006286
So while >>1007542 is right, >>1007771 also has a good point
I've also seen someone i follow do a giveaway for a skeb for up to about $100 dollars and they have a lot of interactions on it so i'd say its probably helpful.
Granted, they have more reach the more followers you have
>>1007826
i owned all my tech because i've streamed in the past so the only new things i had to pay for when deciding to get into this was my Live2D, which I paid about $500 for

>>951229
I know how I want my character's face too look, and her hair and body but I just totally suck at designing outfits. Any suggestions on how to make a scientist character in a lab coat have cute idolish flair?

>>1008572
I can't speak for anyone else but my tracking was much jankier on the older ($40 720p) webcam. I had to make sure that I had room lights on as well as a small ring light clipped to my monitor. I understand that lighting is a part of making content but it was also kind of draining streaming in the bright room. It's not like how bright or dark the room you're in shows up on your stream in the first place. I've never looked at my actual face in the webcam so I can't tell you the picture quality (it's 1080 and I have no desire to see my face that HQ) but tracking is smoother and I think the other benefits of the camera help. Higher quality means better reading of your facial features I'd assume.

>>1008679
go back

>>1008910
open lab coat, idol outfit underneath

Practice streamed for like an hour with no viewers and no twitter followers...I would say feels bad but it's surprisingly fun to talk through my thought process in a game. Just need to figure out visibility for a totally new 'social presence' (bleh)

>>1010945
That sounds about starting out; where did you advertise?
It's a practice stream anyway, but where do you plan on promoting yourself?

Well guys, I did it. I submitted my audition for Hololive. I'll probably get ignored, but I say it was worth a shot anyway.

>>1011415
Yay! Good luck anon!

>>1011508
More like no confidence.

I mean sure I tried and gave it my all but I feel like they'll just pass me over for someone more qualified. Part of the way through the questionnaire they ask you how many viewers you've had at once and I'm like... 10? Maybe? Meanwhile someone else could probably pull in 1,0000 at least, so why pick me, right?

>>1011617
You have to consider that a big guy who pulls 1000 viewers on their own wouldn't have as much motivation to join HoloEN. They might be better off on Twitch even, and getting donations from PayPal. Not trying to just gas you up for the heck of it, but consider than Ame had only an average of about 20 viewers! My application was also pretty mediocre, but I still feel hyped up.

>>1011745
Did she really? I assumed that most of the Hololives were moderately big prior to getting selected. I know that Gura was pretty huge prior to become a shark.

>>1007826
I spent around 250, i weep for the anons spending thousands

>>1011780
Ame also had actual VA experience.

>>1009274
Oh yeah, that part was obvious(no offense!). But I meant I am bad at picking the sort of outfit that would go under the coat. I know that very high waisted skirts are popular for chuubas, so I know I will not go with that. Now I am thinking on an overall dress, or a very baggy button down shirt with a men's tie, and a plaid skirt peaking out from underneath. I'm a little worried that will look too "gyaru-ish" though, and will convey the wrong image to potential Nippon viewers.

>>1007826
>200 on mic equipment
>900 on art
>250 on rigging
>200 bucks on a background

1550 currently. Considering dropping a final 30 for some outro art, but that's minimum priority. Also willing to hold off on the background if I end up getting charged more than I'm expecting for the rigging.

>>1011617
reposting this again for perspective, anon
10 viewers puts you in the top 5% of twitch

>>1016670
Is that list max viewers or average viewers though?
I feel like that can't be max with how commonplace raids are

>>1011617
Remember Nene applied 5 times before she was accepted

>>1011101
I'm still building my confidence/plan on being more active in convos on Twitter. Also I think I honestly need to spend more time finding like-personality indies/WVTs and follow/interact with them (instead of just watching Holos/Pikamee). I'm going for more of a chill/soothing vibe and not really interested in the lewdtuber thing.

I basically only set up follow list of some artists/game personalities/VTubers so far but I know that's too passive to get follows and interest. On my 'main' Twitter I'm a serious lurker who overthinks every time participating in an active thread/topic so I need to push myself to reply and get out there more on my fresh account. I don't know if its a plus or minus but I'm also not doing the whole TBA/idol hype thing, I'm just going to keep streaming and build up the professionalism of my presentation over time.

Really I'm enjoying /auds/ for advice on the overall process (but I won't shill here when I do get more set up), I'm just interested in building a small following as a hobby and probably wouldn't actually aud until a much later EN gen if at all.

>>1017016
She applied 5 times to the same wave anon...

>>1011745
Sorry to shatter those underdog hopes and dreams, but Ame had an average of 100+ viewers. She was a Twitch partner Her stats are a bit broke now but she absolutely didn't have an average of 20, in fact she was steadily on the rise.

This is my biggest tip that a lot of people ignore because they want "muh perfect tailored OC". Get a character designer. A Japanese one, if you can. One thing I've noticed with a lot of western indie vtubers is that they have the shitties OC because artists had to go off of their crappy character idea instead of creating something, and they go with a normal artist and not someone specialized in character design. Artemis was carried all the way to debut and still is from his, a good design absolutely matters if you want a good strong start, it's the first thing anyone sees. That and good audio should be the first two things you have in your pocket before you even begin making content.

I think I might now be finished with my pre-debut VA reps, pls r8
Believe I've finally found the secret, stop giving a shit
Did this all in one go just loudly having fun, excuse the bad nihongonese I just enjoyed doing it
https://litter.catbox.moe/ikir3j.mp3

>>1007826
About 4k.
About 5k.

It sounds like a lot, but it's not that much if you save up to it gradually and choose your expenditures carefully.

Subject material aside it's easy to listen to. I don't think you'd have a problem audio/voice-wise.

>>1020573
Thanks
Still got a long way to go and improve in many factors, I just think and hope I'm good enough now I can go public without really shitty first impression voice wise

>>1020012
Where do you even find them? You can find artists all over, but where are these professional "character designers"?
I'd gladly pay out a few hundred for a good design, even in exchange for having to make and rig my own very shitty version of it first instead of getting a commissioned avatar

If one of you autists somehow manages to get into hololive or becomes popular by whatever means, how will you acknowledge your 4chan roots without making it obvious?

>>1021225
You don't. You talk about being on the internet for a long time and how you sa many things instead.

>>1021225
I'll tell Coco reddit is for fags, just for you.

>>1021225
>you acknowledge your 4chan roots
You understand self-containment is part of 4chan culture. You don't do the wink-wink shit, you do like an oldfag and hide your powerlevel.

>>1021225
Something as simple as "I don't like reddit or other sites like that, but there's this one mongolian basket-weaving forum I'm a fan of" while winking towards the camera is more than enough.

>>1021384
>alienating the reddit audience
>alienating any community without being provoked

>>1021390
Such is the risks of breaking containment

>>1021225
4chan isn't an identity, dude.
Not since like 2007~2008 when the normies started flooding in, anyway.

>>1021546
>4chan isn't an identity, dude
Tell zoomers that

>>1007826
The original plan was to obtain multiple iphones and a new desktop I hope I've convinced them to start with PNGs, we just need to get our designs together

>>1011983
Have you considered shorts? They're comfy and easy to wear.

>>1021756
Why multiple iphones?

>>1022151
For multiple people

>>1020964
A character designer in my opinion should purely be for the design, not the Live2D art. You'll need to communicate with some JPs if you use Skima but finding artists there and just locating their twitter works. I've found 3 or 4 willing to communicate me, our timelines just didn't match up since they had other clients. For English speaking artists though it's just a matter of checking sites like artstation or Twitter if you can navigate it.

My artist flow started with a cheap commission to flesh out a basic character design (It was a cheap one, like 50 bucks and I just gave them a bunch of different parts from characters I like or outfit pieces I thought were cool), then that went to a character designer who I had refine the design into something that doesn't look like "original character do not steal", but if you can either find an English speaking one or communicate with in JP either on your own or DeepL, you can get get a much better result than "hey i want my char to look like this" to an artist who just specializes in fanart or taking comms of characters who already exist.

>>1020457
You've got a solid voice. Just go with a design that matches or can compliment it and you're already ahead of most guys.

>>1020457
That's a good voice, I dunno if you'll succeed, but you won't be held back by your voice.

>>1022229
Wrote it a bit weird but thats what I meant. I'd far rather a great design than a shit one even if I use my whole budget on it and have to create/rig the avatar myself based on the design
Thanks for directing me to Skima, this place is great though the language barrier is scary especially considering legal rights etc. but I'll see if I can find something good there if not on Artstation
>>1022252
>>1022479
Thanks senpai, still only beginning but I'll get even better
Hoping on being a bit of an inspirational "do your reps, chase your dreams" guy leading by example, though my weird sperg ass will assuredly take a large part of the stage, think that and the voice fits?

>>953950
guy could just pull up her old streams and blackmail her into it

>>1023444
check'd and seal of approval

>>1023409
>Hoping on being a bit of an inspirational "do your reps, chase your dreams" guy leading by example, though my weird sperg ass will assuredly take a large part of the stage, think that and the voice fits?
Depends on how much it strains you to pull that voice off. If it's pretty natural I don't see any issue in being bombastic with it. If it's a hassle to pull off you'll probably drop it within the second week of any major streaming.

>>1023409
Look for people specifically doing VTuber designs and don't bother trying to apply through that website. Just find their social media and mention you're using DeepL or whatever, then explain in super basic form that you'd like to commission a vtuber character design and they'll usually start out by telling you their availability. Just be sure to specify it's only for a character design and sheet.

The biggest roadblock I've run into for Live2D is time constraints but if you're capable of turning the design into something and waiting til later to get something better it's a great start. My design cost 300 and that seems to be the range for designs alone. I seriously had to go through hell to find someone who fit the style I like and who were open. If they decline just thank them and move on. Another tip for finding more people is going through people they follow because they tend to be artists doing similar work, it's how I found the person I commissioned.

>>1023471
It's actually effectively my normal voice, I just improved it by doing different singing and speaking reps, using it all the time and learning to be louder over this last month. Only thing I think could be straining is talking loudly for a long time, never done it before and think it might hit me with that introvert burn out requiring me to be more quiet which makes my voice shittier imo, though I can just use it as a "do your reps leading by example" thing and state I'm probably like that but make myself improve over time
>>1023565
Thanks again, I was just gonna design my own originally because I can't trust most of these artists to make anything unique, but I can't trust myself to make something good, hiring a professional designer is a great idea

>>1023768
You got any idea on a direction you want to take to a character designer or do you want a bunch of assholes on the internet to give you basic starting ideas?

Is there some reason the OP pastebin recommends an iphone x instead of a more recent version of the iphone?

>>1023901
I got a solid idea character wise, as well as some narrowing limitations for what the design should be, but no actual design ideas themselves that fit what I want. Can't really say anything here because I think it's actually unique enough no chuuba has done it yet.
With a decent list of "what I am" and "what I'm not" do you think one of these pro designers could work just off that written list, or would it still be best grabbing some cheap shitty fiverr sketches for reference first?
>>1024128
All you need is faceID for top quality tracking, iPhone X, 11 and 12 all have it so any is fine but of course the X is way cheaper being older
Dunno if faceID has improved with the models, but I'd say any improvements would have minimal effect on vtubing unless you've got an avatar that acculturate portrays every muscle in your face

>>1020545
What's your breakdown?

>>1024268
I think you should set up a sheet that has features of different characters you like. Clothing parts, facial features, etc. Start from the top and work your way down. Hair, face, top clothing, bottom clothing, shoes. Any accessories or whatnot. maybe a few characters whose style matches the look you're going for. After that let them know the "theme" you want (Samurai, Office Worker, Knight, Soldier, etc. things like that.) A few personality traits as well and you'll be good. I just put all those into one image and organized them as best as I could and have had good results so far.

When you get a result back, don't respond right away and just try and take in the design, get used to it for a couple hours then get back to them if you need any changes.

>>1024853
Yet again thanks for the good ideas anon, will get on that soon
As a rough guide though from what you've seen, what would you say is the general amount of time you can expect to get a design back based on waiting lists/design time etc?
I'm hoping for something back within at most 2 weeks as I've got a lot of plans and am moving fast, but could maybe go a bit longer at the expense of some ideas

Somebody give me a webcam rec

>>1025058
I'd double that expectation if you want something not rushed out the door unless you're willing to pay a premium to get an artist off their ass.

>>1025077
Basically any webcam that’s 720p or higher is fine. Higher res ones are better but the absolute minimum is 720p; if you aren’t barebones broke then the best option is probably a Logitech cam

Will nijisanji EN take me for gen 2 if I bombard them with my almost a hundred (86 specifically) OC charas?

>>1025136
Sure bro. With that much enthusiasm they'll probably take you at least 10 times. Hope you can handle that many streams.

>>954046
>would be easier if I was a girl
millions of <20 view chuubas kinda disagree with it

>>1025136
I recommend learning something about Nijisanji, before even thinking of applying there.
Almost everything on this board in regards to them is rrats.

>>1025058
Mine took a week, though it totally depends on their availability. Honestly it might take you up to a week to even find someone and get the replies back unless you're really searching hardcore every day, mine took a long time. I'd expect up to a month MAX but a week or two turnaround seems common for char design+Sheet

>>1025058
Whoops
>>1025111 is me and I misread your post as the full modelling and all the works. >>1025464
is correct, just a character design should be relatively quick. A week to two at the absolute max, and really just a few days for an actual proper timeframe, otherwise you'll want to rethink who you are working with,

>>1025629
>>1025838

Thoughts?

>>1025897
Instant views and a potential to be done well. But it probably wouldn't be done well and would get banned.

>>1025933
Damn... it can't be helped, somebody gotta set up a voice changer.

>>1020457
This is a good look.
Sounds like you're going for sort of a villainous type?

Please be my friend!

>>1025195
It's easier, it just doesn't guarantee success.

>>975811
>Should you ever make friends with individual viewers you like?
It is inevitable to form a friendly relationship when interacting with people, unless you are sitting at 2k+ viewers, by which time you'll have enough experience to deal with it as they come (unless overnight success, but that's not something you have to worry about). Pic related - a vtuber who's liveviewers bounce between 700 and 2k. Just remember that they are not your anime nakama, but an audience that wishes to be entertain.
>Should you ever make friends with your mod team or keep a business relationship with them?
You must absolutely have a good relationship with your mod team. They can fuck you over in a massive way.
>Should you ever make friends with other vtubers or are they just there only because you're a vtuber and they want your numbers?
You shouldn't be an asocial asshole to begin with - people like bad boys, but assholes are hated. Again though, people won't be throwing themselves to collaborate with you, so its only natural to start building a network with that that do. Not to mention that if you and the other person hate eachother, it'd be a bad stream regardless.
>Is it viable just doing your own thing without making any connections to the 'community'?
Not if you stream regularly.
>How do you spot people just using you for clout?
That's not a problem you should concern yourself with at the moment.

Do you enjoy if Vtubers play games that somehow relate to their character/design or do you enjoy them more when they play games that contradict their design?

>>1026764
Unless you are an Action Hero or an Athlete, you cannot stick to games fitting your design.

>>1026796
Of course you can't stick solely to them, but there's so many games that there is bound to be a large selection for many Vtubers to choose from. You're also completely missing the point of the question. Do you find it more entertaining, funny, or enjoyable in any other way, if a Vtuber's game choice matches up with their design or character, or do you find them more enjoyable when they do not match up?

Should I start with a fresh name and divorce myself from my past username that I've been using?

>>1026764
Dont care, although usually some models give a vibe if whst the characters into. Like I wouldn't see korone playing Apex or Cs. But kuzuha I can see

>>951229
If I make my videos in spanish and add subs will americans watch them? I speakcspanish much more fluidly yhan english

>>1027995
Linking old names has its ups and downs, people will know who you are etc but you can start with a following (like a lot of artists who are becoming vtubers now). It's all up to you.

>>1028095
I'm not an artist nor a musician.
Better question is should I have a fake Japanese name?

Is it a good idea to start with a 3D avatar (most probably made in VRoid until I find something better) instead of live2d?

>>1027995
Depends on what works better for your case.

Pros
>Starting from square one with knowledge of past mistakes is much better
>New audience ready to discover a new channel
>Algorythms prefer new channels instead of old stagnating ones
Cons
>Autistic level of opsec is required
>If you fail a second time, that could hit harder
>Even with autistic opsec reps, by gaining in popularity you will eventually cross the path of people that are more autistic than you and they'll find who you were before.

>>1028084
you're gonna have to ask yourself how much work you're willing to put in. the time you spend subbing one of your own streams, or even just putting together a highlight clip with subs can add up to a lot of time.

>>1027995
I did it because i wanted to start from scratch without anyone being able to connect me to my vtuber
>>1028130
I wouldn't go for it unless it like makes sense with your design

>>1028371
Should I post my design?

>>1027995
Middle ground.
Make a new identity and don't intentionally/actively connect them, without lying or denying the connection.
You don't have to hardcore disavow your past to make a fresh start. Let people figure it out and just don't comment on it. Past is past.

How many people here have actually debuted already?

How do you politely ask someone for a character design comm?

>Hello! I was wondering if you'd be interested in being commissioned to design a vtuber character! I am not looking for a full character sheet at the moment, but rather help in visualizing the concepts I have in mind. With you permission, I would also like to stream with a transparent png of the character to start off with. Would this project be of interest to you? And if you, what would be your price estimate? Thank you for your time!
-anon

>>1032655
Looks fine to me. Just make sure whoever you're asking hasn't posted rules or anything on how to approach them. If they have a big sign saying NOT ACCEPTING COMMISSIONS then it probably won't be appreciated either way.

>>1032784
Thanks for the feedback! Luckily the artist in question has comms open and is excellent at moe character design. I have one other thing I'm unsure about, is it considered rude to take the design someone created and go to someone else to get a character sheet for rigging, when the time comes? The artist I'm interested in seems to have not done that before.

Reading everyone else's effort here got me in the mood to tell my pointless journey.

I got into vtubers around a year ago and have been actively working towards becoming one. I started out as a NEET with no job because of the pandemic with only a smart phone and free internet from my neighbor. Flash forward a year later I have a job now and an average pc. I have character art from an artist friend and all I need to do is to rig it myself.


the problem is Im losing motivation fast. Working has left me exhausted and depressive. I don't dream as hard as I did when I was a NEET. But I feel obligated to keep going because of the time/money investment.

What do?

>>1033015
keep going

>>1032894
Just ask them. The artist doing my character design, I told them, here's a quote from the conversation:
>Side note/question, it may save us both time: Are you comfortable with your work being used as reference for another (Live2D) artist to create a Vtuber avatar, and potentially thus being monetized/commercialized? There is no "commercial use" line on your gig page, I'm guessing because of the category, and I don't want to have that be a secret sprung on you
>If I ever make it big - or heck, if I even debut in the first place - I would of course be very quick to credit and link to you and your pages
>If that is not something you are okay with, feel free to let me know. I just wanted to cover that now because that is the eventual purpose of this reference, it's not for a tabletop RPG campaign or something else personal
You don't want it to be a secret and end up with some drama like Melody had with her modeler. Get it all out in the open and ask the question, worst case is they let you know upfront they're not okay with that and you save your time and money. Fortunately, my first choice ended up being cool with it, but had to ask.

>>1033329
Oh and obviously (reference to "gig page") I did mine through fiverr, I imagine the conversation would be p much the same for any other platform. Just read carefully through any and every bit of small print on their advert/page/etc., you may see the answer already mentioned.

>>1033427
Samefag one more time
For reference, another contact I made figured out I was working on a chuuba model (made an account with "vtuber" in the name on fiverr, probably shouldn't have done that), but preemptively told me that he had a 25% upcharge for something he knew would be used for vtubing eventually. Just to give you an idea of what you might expect. The guy I went with was just like "nah I'm cool I'd appreciate the reference that's all I would want"

>>1025077
Logitech c920

>>1033744
Not him but
>bought a C920 like 4 years ago for normie skyping/video calling purposes
>it still keeps being recommended as one of the peak bang-for-the-buck 1080p webcams
Is it really that much of a superlative?

Now the struggle is coming up with a nice name.

>>1032122
I debuted at the start of February and have been enjoying it so far.

>>1028318
VRoid is the "hold over" option if you don't have funds. No shame in it but I'd really only go that route for a temporary solution

>build following for 3 weeks at this point
>have a small following, ~200 on twitter and ~30 on twitch
>release an incredibly scuffed cover of a song with no image because can't draw
>follower who has been in most of my streams dms me saying "I could draw you an illustration of you for this!" and doesn't accept payment
i-is this what it means to make it bros?

>>1035618
don't forget about us little guys, anon.

>>1035618
Congrats. You're doing well.

>>1036167
>>1036167
>>1036167
new

>>1036225
Wait til page 10 retard