/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>https://piyo.chats.ninja/ (RIP)
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

soon

home sweet home

FORGIVE ME PEKOCHAN

>>9605115
REPENT!

>>9605115
>WHERE
>THE
>FUCK
>IS
>MY
>PEKOASMR

>>9604500
Kuzuha would mog Nene's number if the tourney was today. Hololive is dying.

>>9605176
>Hololive is dying.
pff

>>9605176
>would

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alFB3wR3hts
Top 100 original songs for the past week. A bit surprised Unison took back the throne.

>>9605737
REFLECT,RIP also increase, KING cover actually help.
REFLECT : 310K>>370K RIP : 230K>>300K

>>9605737
Well, no big surprises in the top 10 when compared to last week, then again no big standout releases numberwise.
Gods the top 50 Holocovers is just gonna be the Gura King cover bullying the rest of the top 10 isn't it.

>>9605176
No lol this isn't anything like an FPS tournament, it's a Nijisanji only tournament in a boring game.

>>9606174
There already has a ranking bullying other songs
https://youtu.be/phGHz9PC2s8
New cover songs released last week

>>9606240
4.23 M vs 0.65 M

>>9606196
tell that to their jp viewers, they think that shit is interesting if he gets 34k for a scrim

>>9606240
Oh, I did see this a thread or two ago. So this is an "All new cover releases weekly ranking" then? Gods I'm going through this now and wow does King bully the FUCK outta everyone on the list.

>>9606240
SUTOPURI MOGGED

>>9604500
hololyzer is even more accurate than this, and it is mainly a super chat analysis site
e.g. Pekora is actually 33,481(Holostats) / 33,288(hololyzer)

>>9604500
why is Pekora's numbers wrong?

>>9606240
Oh gods.
GuraMori King cover literally had more views than the rest of the top 10 combined
2 to 10 summed: 3.972 mil
GuraKing: 4.23 mil

>>9606196
He's getting way more viewers for it than he was for his pre-tourney R6S games and he hit 42k for the R6S tourney. Pokemon tourney will get at least 55k for sure.

>>9606585
Their cover released on 9/1(JST), which means they have 30 days to accumulate views for monthly ranking.
Last month 1st is 2.24M (released on 8/5)

How do we save Trannylive?

>>9607328
>Trannylive
t. nijifag

>>9607328
>more views, less "live" numbers
Susan being a whore again

EN scene is reclining...

>>9607711
Okay this speaks fucking volumes on what a shit site Youtube is.

>>9607328
Retards already biting this obvious bait kek

>>9607711
Holy fuck

Youtube's live tracking is totally fucking broken. CCV should be totally disregarded as a measurable statistic until youtube fixes their shit.

>>9607754
there are too many "moving targets" right. we will get much mote clear pic next month

>>9607791
>Retards
>kek

>>9607754
EN fans are a bunch of unloyal trendhoppers anyway, I couldn't give two shits about them.
They're an added bonus just to push the brand out worldwide which successfully they've done.

>>9607328
Nene's 111k wasn't just an outfit reveal but an entire redesign of the character, the new outfit was the basis for her 3D model and she never used the original outfit again and never will, that stream is incomparable in importance to her than any other outfit reveal that ever happened in Hololive

>>9607754
Ina and Ame vacations. IRyS idk. Combination of bad games. EN2 fell off from their debut numbers.

>>9607897
You got me

>>9608067
>IRyS idk
5-7lk are her normmal numbers
2.8k was terrible kusoge collab with Anya in different timeslot

>>9608067
Gura went up due to Minecraft shenanigans. Really if they cared about numbers all Holos would play more MC.

Ame's erratic schedule + watchalongs hurt her

Ina down due to playing series games. Kind of the same as Kiara Skyward Sword hurts her.

IRyS skewed by no singing stream yet this month and a couple low # collabs outside her timeslot.

EN2 obviously losing the debut momentum.

>>9608067
Irys hasn't done her karaokes yet this month, those usually drag up her median numbers since they're all 10k+.

I had to look up Ame's numbers to see for myself and jfc, she'll need to do a lot of streams to make up for her debuffs.
The 42 min "[Abex] maybe" stream is actually infuriating in a numbers perspective. Played 2 short games in 20 mins before "tummy hort" and went into 20 mins of superchat reading. Just don't stream if you're not feeling well Ame.

>>9608313
>Ina down due to playing series games
not completely true, she played a lot of Kusoge this month

>>9608564
Ame IS her own worst enemy.
simple as

Thought Selen's numbers would be high seeing as she's playing quake right now

>>9608575
I wouldn't call Bastion or Ender Lilies kusoges really. They're far higher in quality than shit like Chilla's Art games or those Hero RPG games JPs love, but they ain't good for numbers.
Ina finished the latter but just started Bastion.

>>9608775
From looking at EN's numbers in the past few months, the only games that bring consistent numbers are Minecraft (for Holos), FoTM games that people are hyped for, and games the streamer is famously good at. Old games are an extra debuff.
Anything else is going to get you "normal" numbers, which for Selen is in the the 1.5-2.5k range.

>>9608643
Sickness is her worst enemy, although like the other anon said, she should just not stream at all for a while and take care of her body.

>>9608960
The Minecraft is actually interesting, because you would think that people would tire of a MC only streamer, and other games would be needed to "spice" things up, yet there are so many JP streamers that are all in on the Minecraft/Apex rotation and their viewership is really steady.

I wonder if that would work in the West, minus Apex of course its not a big draw there.

>>9609139
>Minecraft
>needed to "spice" things up
i guess you do not understand why it is so steady, especially last month

>>9609139
Minecraft for Holos is an overarching anime plot. The interactions and impromptu collabs makes its pretty entertaining. Unfortunately, there's no MC autist yet on EN side which makes it hard to watch EN Minecraft sometimes. Ame just does whatever she wants without completing a single build in a stream unlike Ina. Ina and Gura's MCs is good because INA has actual objectives to do and Gura is a good talker.

If Gura can somehow incline to 20k with Warioware, that's actually pretty great. Marine and Kanata off-collab of it could only get 26k.
It's not a debuff game, but it's not a buff game either.

>>9609449
Furthermore, beside the interactions and impromptu collabs, constructions like Pekodam and Shubangelion drive in viewers, which also creates a massive amount of clips (and CCV) for reactions from the other chuubas.

Today's superchats

>>9609139
The problem with most other games is that streamers mostly focus on playing the game straight, rather than building something unique of off whatever they play.
It's why Passpartout is also a staple and a buff game to those who can draw; content creation is literally expected and simple playthroughs don't cut it.

>>9609139
>Minecraft
Minecraft is really only a Holo buff thing and few a few Nijis, for reasons other anons have said already. It's a popular sandbox game where you can always have new projects and events, but it is capped without collab potential.

>Apex
Apex streamers in Japan are like LoL streamers in the west. A near endless pool of viewers but also a shitton of competition. If you're at the top, then you have access to a huge viewerbase that will always be interested, but it's really easy to be overlooked because of how many Apex streamers there are.

>>9609932
nijifags forgot to sc their liver? also that #9 always getting on the chart

>>9609932
>0 (zero) nijis

>>9609564
Seems like there is too much viewer churn for her to hit 20k. She was at like 19.7k but then she completed the stage and the viewership dropped to under 17k. Now that she is on another stage she is back at 18.5k, lol. Seems like the average EN viewer has the attention span of a gnat and must immediately attain external stimulus somewhere else once she completes a stage during the downtime.

>>9610346
I know I'm only tabbing in whenever she starts playing, and I suspect I'm not the only one.
Its tricky because I know that shit would still count on Twitch, but with YT fucking around with how live views are being counted, who fucking knows if I'm being treated as an actual viewer or a 'bot'.

>>9607754
Good

>I know I'm only tabbing in whenever she starts playing, and I suspect I'm not the only one.
Yea, looks like it's one of those games where they cycle between gaining viewers as they play an actual game (or a set of minigames in this case) and then drop a lot of viewers when they finish and start a new one, kinda like apex i guess but faster and not quite as brutal in the drop.

>>9610105
nijis rely on tourist supa from events to get anything

>>9609932
Why luto is here again?

>>9604500
using single views of a single vid' is tactically nice, but gives a poor overall performance of the character in question.

>>9609932
nijisanji doko

>>9606551
I'm pretty sure it hit 38k if that's the one from today

>>9610783
Because Luto is fucking BASED

>>9610783
she is having a subathon and her chat are SC-ing to keep the stream going

>>9605176
Meanwhile top 20 is 99% hololive.

>>9610854
Sorry they forgot to SC their livers today

Fuck, I missed the screencap, but Gura threw up a poll and in like a minute, got nearly 8k votes.
I don't know what the usual engagement metrics are like, but that's a lot of fucking votes in a minute for 18k CCV

>>9611823
btw do niji restream on niconico?

>>9611267
>Niji
>774
>Niji
>KING
I see you can't count. That's 20% (not) hololive. Hololive relies on box pushing and view funneling and while it works right now, it can come crashing down and destroy the entire company if more controversies continue to happen.

>>9612131
~1 minute poll
45% engagement

>>9612200
>Hololive relies on box pushing and view funneling and while it works right now, it can come crashing down and destroy the entire company if more controversies continue to happen.
thx for good laugh, anon

>>9612308
what power is this?

>>9612188
No

>>9612411
Not actually 45% engagement, youtube numbers are fucked

>>9610854
>>9611823
went to kuzuha channel's house and gave the total to him in cash, don't have to declare it and it saves us the susan cut too

>>9612411
45% engagement is absolutely not happening, they're just filtering numbers for some reason to severely undercount what's probably the reality.

What I don't know is if this affects all users on Youtube's platform equally, or if it's distorted depending on different totally logical and not at all random AI factors.

>>9612411
More evidence of YT fuckery.
If she had kept that poll up for 5 minutes I'm 100% we'd see over 100% 'engagement', fucking kek.

>>9612131
more importantly, the holobronie poster was right all this time...

Is it possible that Youtube is purposefully lowering the live viewer counter so that they don't have to pay the channel as much ad revenue?

>>9612508
Yt is a broken mess man.

>>9612768
No lol
It's just part of their spam viewer culling. They don't disclose what constitutes as a spam viewer so we don't know if we're even counted.

>>9612768
That's stupid. They're lowering them to appeal to advertisers. Viewers that don't watch your ads, tabbed out or ad blocked, isn't worth the money paid by advertisers.

>>9612968
This is the option that makes the most sense, given their statement for fairness or whatever the fuck it was.
>>9612735
I voted no to try to dodge the cringe, but clearly Gura's chat wants to indulge her and bathe in the absolute cringe that stream would induce.

Gura finally hit 20k while playing Ashley's stage. You can't make this up. The power of combined cunny is too strong!

>>9610346
Well, she managed to hit 20k just before the Council collab is about to start too, she may bleed a few viewers once the hour hits.

>>9613182
She's not stopping until the ame collab isn't she?
around 3k waiting room

>>9613606
Doesn't look like it.
Time to test the power of Council Collab vs Gura.

Damn Gura gonna have a collab with Ame in 30 min, couldn't she at least wait til they've passed the collab ban before doing this?

>>9612968
This honestly is most likely. You can claim significantly higher metrics in meme measurables like clicks-per-view that advertisers want to feel good about if you manipulate the numbers to under-report the number of total viewers, when you have a platform like Youtube that is dealing in absolutely fuckhuge total viewership numbers no matter where you decide to start shaving them off.

Gura
>18k watching
>4.5k waiting for the Collab with Ame
Mumei
>13k
Kiara
>330 waiting for the stream in ~50 minutes
Mori
>360 waiting for Doom #5 in about 2 hours

>>9614338
>Kiara
?

>>9614436
>Anniversary stream

>>9605176
terminal copepost

shark cunny > all of gen 2

>gura 18.5K
>council 17K
Kinda insane actually, it seems myth and council have a fair amount of viewers unique to them.

>>9614528
that's not for another 12 hours

>>9614617
Yes, that's right. I'm dumb

>>9614577
Stream is still building up anonchama, they are at 19k now.

>>9614871
gura's stream is over

Well looks like they still got good numbers during collabs, hit 20k now, what was the number for the last one?

>>9614871
Thats cus gura was ending her stream. It instantly jump from 18k to 21k (and rising) for council once it ended. Lets see what Ame and gura collab get

How much did Gooruh drop when council started

How much did Council incline when Gooruh ended

How much will Council decline when Amesame start

>>9615282
about 1k
jumped from 18/19k to 21k
looks like there will be a change of plans with the next stream https://twitter.com/watsonameliaEN/status/1436878166165884935

>>9615282
Dropped like.,...1.5k
Hard to say, they were already inclining since the start of the stream
Uh....Maybe 1-2k, or they stop inclining.

>>9614977
61k for the 1st (Baelz)
43k for the 2nd (Kronii)
24k for the 3rd (Fauna)

>>9615282
Gura had 18.2k until she put her ending screen up, Council had 18.1k until that moment. Council inclined around 8k and there is currently 10k waiting for the Ame collab.

>>9615282
Ame cancelled last second.

>>9615715
Why am I not surprised with Ame?

>>9615986
Ame is here and she just cucked us. We will never know.

>>9615282
>How much did Council incline when Gooruh ended
Hard to tell but my guess is about 3k

>>9615955
Looks like they might hit 30k actually, I guess the higher numbers could be attributed to Mumei being more popular than Fauna.

>>9615282
>>9616075
>collab with Gura will be rescheduled till next week!
>It will be worth the wait
>trust me!

>>9616765
>Looks like they might hit 30k actually

>40 min in
>Ame's stream is still up
nah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUjdYGda4N4

>>9616622
>Gurame collab had nearly 13k people waiting
I can't even imagine what the numbers were going to be.

Council stream at 28k

>>9617443
It hit 29k for me, almost 30k actually.

this game exposes people TOO HARD

>>9617066
It hit 30k.

>>9618024

>>9616765
Myth's Debut Full Collab

1st: unknown - Ame
2nd: 47.3k - Kiara
3rd: 51.1k - Ina (drawing)
4th: 37.9k - Calli (snack zatsu)
5th 67.9k - Gura (minecraft)

>>9612768
>>9612968
No it's because of actual paid view farms and people like dream fucking with the website so they overcorrected in the other direction. They aren't actually targeting vtubers, it's just collateral damage

Oh its still rising, it hit 31k now. I think they have a limit of 1 hour for these council collabs though so they might reach 32k before they end.

>>9618704
YouTube changed the algorithm in December 2020

>>9619022
It's not a strict limit, they just try to keep it to an hour to avoid imposing on everyone's schedules too much, especially since it's pretty late for some of them and it's really early for others.

>>9619626
source?

>>9618934
>No it's because of actual paid view farms and people like dream fucking with the website so they overcorrected in the other direction
wait what? care to explain?

>>9619366
You can still use it to compare how hype changes between channels and the topics.

>>9619691
Kiara touched on it when she talked about the challenges of organizing collabs

>>9612968
You only see ads at the start, before joining the stream. The only profit that streamers get after this is with the few viewers that are paying for YouTube Premium and SC

>>9619716
You know the bots the exist on twitch and how you can buy views on there? Yeah that also existed on youtube.
Dream is kinda like the modern era Pewdiepie who used to do stuff like directing his fanbase to sub to certain channels or mass unsub from certain channels and stuff. He's probably the main reason why they introduced the sub culling thing.

>>9620555
jesus...

Numbers have gradually gone down, new stream starting? Looks like 31k is gonna be the peak unless they go for 2 hours and maybe snag some more viewers.

>>9620673
No streams for Hololive that I can see, but Kson did start a stream, and there's definitely overlap between her fanbase and Hololive, despite everything that's happened.

>>9620113
>The only profit that streamers get after this is with the few viewers that are paying for YouTube Premium and SC
vod

>>9620897
>Kson did start a stream, and there's definitely overlap between her fanbase and Hololive
2k jps?

>>9620113
Youtube Premium is broken too and works massively in the favor of vtubers. Cover should encourage their fans to get it because if 20% of Hololive fans who watch VODs got it it would mean millions of dollars more in revenue every year

>>9620897
isnt mori in some minutes

>>9622883
>mori
>fps
>controller

>>9622711
I'm not paying 11 dollars to a platform that constantly fucks over my favourite vtubers, and i don't think this sentiment is unique to me

>>9618704
What was the Kiara one even about? Was that where the bottom left meme spawned or was that from the 1st collab?

There are some sudden 1-2k views drop. Did youtube shit itself, or did people just tab out?

>>9624189
I was watching it and as soon as it crossed 30k this was happening like every 3 to 4 mins. I would go upto 30k plus and then suddenly it shows 28.5k or 29k.

>>9624069
It is the origin of "bottom left". Looks like a hololive quiz+drawing stream, asking other members to draw or write answers on the board.

>>9623751
Youtube premium is a better deal unlike spotify

>>9623751
The money gets distributed to creators though. It's no different to paying membership or superchatting. It allocates your money to creators you watch based on the amount of time you watch them. This works hugely in the favor of people who stream on youtube and have hour long VODs.

https://youtu.be/NLO5-IyS5pE?t=355

>>9624608
Still not paying you shit until you fix your damn website Susan

>>9624834
Explains why Cover stays on Youtube. The revenue from the VODs must be insane.

>>9624834
So hypothetically, if n many Hololive viewers pay $12 per month or whatever premium costs and then watch hundreds of hours of Hololive streams and VODs, could Cover make more than n*$12 of revenue? I.e., is there just a single pot of money from all Youtube premium subs which gets divvied up entirely based on watch time?

>>9625582
I think the point is that Youtube Premium is much more effective at providing income to the content providers you watch than ad revenue is. If a bunch of normies without ad block watch VODs and a bunch of normies with youtube premium watch VODs the second group will provide 4x the amount of income because the split of premium money is bigger than getting 0.01 cent per adview.

>>9624938
In just the last 30 days Cover had 327.14 million video views on all their videos.
That's probably a nice chunk of change.
On Twitch those views would mean shit because they take 90% of ad view revenue unless you sign a special contract with them.

>>9626268
Sorry, I forgot to include the Hololive Official channel, 350.23 million.

>>9624189
Nothing really weird about that, some people just dropped off, a lot of streams peak at the first 30min-1hour before gradually dropping some numbers.

>>9626268
The split for subs is also worst
50/50 on twitch and 70/30 on YouTube

This thread is most cancer shit i read

>>9627887
sounds like you need to branch out anon. just take a look at the catalogue and i am sure you are bound to find something even more cancerous

>>9628091
Just a baiter. Thread had been mostly civilized from started to now. Don't give yous.

So based on how this collab had much higher numbers than the last Council collab, what can be gleaned from this? Was it big cause Mumei was hosting it or is there still debut buff active and they just didn't turn up last collab for some reason? Did they gain more viewers after losing some?

Sana minecraft with 4k waiting.
Maybe 8k since no overlaps happening and is saturday night.

>>9628302
too many factors
saturday night, no overlaps with ame same, mumei canel
We would need to wait for sana collab to see

>>9628302
Could just be the concept of the collab being better for numbers than the last one.

>>9628302
Mumei's more popular, maybe more people were interested in the stream concept, and it helped that Ame made Gura cancel her stream then bailed leaving the slot entirely open.

>>9628391
>DVR on
7k max

>>9628500
>leaving the slot entirely open.
I can't remember, did the last collab have some other holos overlapping?

>>9628302

>>9628391
>no overlaps happening
Mori is still streaming but wtf 5k waiting and only 3k watching

>>9628864
DVR on might mean that a portion of the audience is desynced?

>>9628722
Yeah I think Gura streamed MC over it.

>>9628962
She actually ended like 15 minutes before.

>>9628962
She didn't, which surely helped because it was JP server buff MC.

>>9628864
she had 5.3k waiting beofer starting
but she has DVR on so some viewers might not be counted.

>>9628722
>did the last collab have some other holos overlapping?
Ina

>>9628927
I'm getting a weird effect of seeing 4700 on the actual stream and 3800 in my subs listing.

>>9629061
I see 4.9k in the stream and 4.9k on my subs tab.

>>9629099
Yeah it finally synced for me now.

>>9628927
>>9629042
>DVR affecting CCV
Wait, is this confirm or just a theory?

>>9629136
Theory/speculation I think. Youtube is so damn cagey with their behind the scenes viewership algorithm stuff that it's difficult to get confirmation for things like that.

>>9629136
it is specualtion but DVR streams does take longer to make or eeach peak.
5k wiating and JUST reached that.

Sana is getting 7k by herself on stream. So much for being "dead" huh?

>>9630410
>first solo MC stream
too cocky, sanabro

>>9630410
>buff timeslot
>only 7k

Awww, y'all seething?

>>9630474
How is 2 am with Mori also streaming a buff timeslot?

>>9630467
Its her 2nd time MC idiot and besides why are you salty about it?

>>9630540
>first SOLO MC stream
>idiot
why so rude?

Nene forgot to change her free chats start time and is now earning money with it. wonder if playboard will be able to track it

>>9630410
Leftovers from the Council collab.

Mumei just joined Sana's MC stream. It looks like another unofficial collab again. Also, I'm glad that things like this is happening in HoloEN since there are more people now.

>>9631305
offtopic, but seems like Council girls ve got great chemistry

>>9631411
They've been getting to know each other before Council's debut so it's understandable. It's just on stream everyone is so nervous we wouldn't get this feeling.

>>9631488
It helps that most of them aren't socially autistic. I can imagine management also emphasized getting to know each other seeing how EN1's dynamic was dog shit for the longest time.

>>9631411
The EN branch needed this. The myth girls have gotten a lot lot better recently and seeing the council girls get well together is great as well

>>9631565
Although I enjoy how Myth develop their chemistry slowly like an real life anime, painful but sweet in the end. But Council really need this chemistry right off the bat on screen.

>>9631488
>It's just on stream
i remember Kronii in the end of the SC reading asked Mumei, who appeared in the chat, to spend time together after it in DC.

>>9631849
Yes this why I think they were allowed to interact with each other for a good amount of time before their debut and well they are working out well together.

>>9631980
It's a good thing they were allowed to interact with EN 1 for months too.
They kinda fucked IRyS over in that regard since they only got to talk to her the day before her debut.

>>9631980
Everything was pushed back because of Coco's graduation so council had more time sitting on the back seat so to speak, unlike myth who were pushed forward

>>9632070
Hold on really?
Fucking hell thats just incompetent wtf? That would explain why IRyS's chemistry is a bit off with the rest of EN.

>>9631411
There's no Kiara that wants to establish their ship early on, leading to the remaining ones to group up together, and leading to even more division when one of those ended up being pretty obsessed with one person, on top of blazing past everyone else cause they got super popular.

>>9632070
At least she's getting along with Ina. I hope her and the rest of EN gel well together because irys is a fun one to watch especially in collabs.

>>9632088
>Cover announcesed new members(irys) after Coco's graduation
called it , btw. classic Holo tactic

>>9632088
Yeah I agree this is a major factor as well.

>>9632309
Don't you have some failing nijis to save?

>>9632070
Hah, no wonder Kiara was seething

>>9632348
fuck off, tribalfag

>>9632070
They really lucked out that Irys is actually so good and comfortable in streaming, despite all the debuffs they actually put on her from the start. Imagine if she's as awkward and inexperienced as Mori instead, she would drown on her own instead of having the good stable numbers that she has right now.

>>9632185
With this and Council, I think why Gura and Ame's chemistry works out well pretty fast after debut. During Gura's birthday stream, Gura showed the picture, Ame draw for her back in July 2020, and Gura said her first impression about Ame is "Hey, we will be besties right away" vibe. And their early collab for Minecraft expedition and A Way Out really shines.

>>9632088
>unlike myth who were pushed forward
since when were they pushed forward?

It seems we might see a Council renaissance in the near future

>>9632407
Seethe nijinigger

>>9632309
It's not a tactic it's how long how it took. If we see the time it took from audition to debut of gen1 it was around 5 months. Gen 2 auditions were announced in February so 5 months later is the exact time of Coco's graduation. No one i their right mind was expecting her to graduate. If not for coco's graduation they would have debuted in July.

>>9632635
Why do you argue with nijiniggers?

Kroni just joined the MC's unofficial collab

>>9632508
Agreed again. Another lighting in a bottle type situation I will say. I also think if she had a better model she would be a 9k or 10k streamer like Ina.

>>9632686
>>9632556
Kuzuha didn't stream today so you have to settle baiting EN2 fags huh

>>9632686
I never really do but this time an actual sensible discussion was going on (which has become rare for this board) and this fag decides to shit it up.

https://youtu.be/GgVBv6Mma_U
Holosongs time

>>9633021
time for some king mogging numbers

>>9632862
This is a really strange non sequitur

>>9632635
>It's not a tactic
this is how cover schedule their events and throw exiting stuff around sad events sometimes.
you can take a look at CN incident when Cover threw a Lot of concerts and new stuff right after Coco and Haato come back to creat some noice.
>No one i their right mind was expecting her to graduate
Cover did for a while.

It may be a weird way now but it’s a cover nonetheless. Haachama’s Veah cover is doing quite strong: 666k views in a little over 4 days
https://youtu.be/mRCfFS0SsCk

Nose in the top 10 all streams with just a normal ranked apex with Putechi. Nose is the lowest apex rank of all the VSPO girls besides Nazuna but that doesn't matter.
She is the face of that company.

>>9633093
That’s attributing a level of tactical sophistication to Cover that greatly overestimates them.
They indeed end up having the “happy stuff” following the “sad stuff” but for the opposite reason. It’s not that they create happy stuff out of the thin air to take the attention away from the sad stuff, it’s that they had happy stuff already in the works and usually (like it seems to be Irys case) postpone its release to avoid the sad stuff to sour it.

>>9633021
>there are more people watching this Holosongs ranking compilation than people watching any of nijien
Jesus

>>9633519
Please stop beating up on the expansion branch, they're doing their best okay?
(There are over 4,400 people watching the ranking rn)

Petra had particularly strong numbers today but the stream is privated. What was it?

>>9633697
Your lack of research honestly sickens me https://twitter.com/Petra_Gurin/status/1436914869966540804?s=20

Holy shit, when it comes to fan community, no agency is even comparable to Hololive

>>9633762
Asking count as research. Good numbers too, good to see she can branch out of whatever she was doing and try to do something interesting

Fauna just joined in Sana's MC stream

>>9633152
The cutoff date for the chart is Friday, but it already had 400k by then, it should be counted and appear.

>>9633788
You mean Rainbow Disaster and their ability to graduate a Holo after debut

>>9633021
2.397M Views for the top 2-10 this week
4.75 M for Gura KING in the counted time
Mogs all of Holocovers for the week, and it definitely beats Top 2-20 combined as well.

>>9633883
They don't count it if its less than 3? combined days for the count iirc, so it's going to get rolled into next week's ranking.

>>9633883
They already teased it in the “next week” segment.
Here’s something interesting: it’s already beating her 2nd original. Goes to show where her strength lies

>>9633021
>>9633948
>1. CaliGula - King - 4.751.198
>2. Ayame - Goodbye Sengen - 366.905
Holy mother of moggings, almost 5M in a week and an abyss between 1st and 2nd despite Ayame's absolutely amazing numbers still.

>>9633912
Aww, somebody jealous their oshi wouldn't get that many fans

what did nijisanji do to this board to make people so upset with them

>>9634061
Legacy /jp/ rivalry, basically.
And then it just snowballed from there

>>9634061
>people
>one (1) shitposter

>>9634061
Bad blood from the /jp/ days when Hololive was still small.
Newfags just join the ride to fit in.

Pekora truly found a way to advance her “most watched hours” goal, didn’t she?
This game is PILING UP both hours and average CCV

>>9634103

>>9633988
>>9633992
It would have been 3 days already but, maybe it's the classic culprit "time zones".

Then, is it possible it hits 1 million before next Friday?
It's still going really strong right now.

>>9633462
nta for the most part
>It’s not that they create happy stuff out of the thin air
oh i never said so.
>this is how cover Schedule their events... sometimes.

>That’s attributing a level of tactical sophistication to Cover that greatly overestimates them.
to be honest i genuinely believe there were some great decisions from them from business standpoint.
btw, thowing 1 single member (irys) when ppl wanted full gen wasn't 1 of them. but this is holoEN and i'm really sceptical about their management

>>9634160
How many "watch hours" so far between the 3 streams?

Something tells me she could take the rest of the month off and still be in the top 5 after she finishes it.

WHO WOULD WIN THIS SUBARU FIGHT?!

>the greatest automotive brand from the country with the greatest automakers pushed by a multinational company and millions of car enthusiasts
>a talking duck

THE ANSWER WILL SHOCK, SURPRISE, ANGER AND THROW YOUR ENGINE INTO REVERSE GEAR!

>>9634283
I say she’ll rake 20k CCV avg * 30 hours = 600k watched hours from these three streams alone

>>9634283
she only dipped below 20k on the first day till about 18k then went back up, Been a solid 20-25k all the way through.

>>9634160
behold Pekora's timeslot!

>>9634061
What this guy said
>>9634133
And there's also a prevailing belief that hololive antis tend to be nijiniggers jealous that hololive shot past their company

>>9634160
She is nearing the end, numbers should only increase.

>>9634402
before nijiEN there were barely any western niji fans in the first place and even nijiEN is pretty damn small. Don't know why it's so hard to grasp that most western holo antis are just bored hololive fans

How many viewers do you think a Kuzuha Jump King stream would get? The only direct comparison we can make between him and Pekora recently are with Pokemon Unite. Both got 27k the first time they played it but he's getting a lot more viewers than that now.

>>9634512
He does not have the patience for it

>>9634289
sponsorship when?

>>9634506
A lot of the negative things that happened to Hololive before NijiEN have been attributed to JP antis (Holocaust and Aloe being the two big ones). Whether this is true or not doesn’t matter since it’s the general belief on this board.

>>9634506
>antis
shitters*

>>9634061
Kinda a Newfag here but i think the only ones hated are their fans (who worships them and trashes holos)

>>9634512
>The only direct comparison we can make between him and Pekora recently are with Pokemon Unite.
That’s not really a direct comparison given that he’s in a company wide tournament.
There is actually no possible direct comparison between the royal couple, as they don’t share ANYTHING at all in common.
Even comparing Ibrahim with Pekora would be easier because of the Minecraft building stuff

>>9634623
>JP antis
nta
>aqua apex
>shion

>>9634061
Well, the new nijien fans are insufferable, selen fags shitting up ever thread. There is the consolewar shit from holoEN /v/ fans too. But also long time /jp/ fags like myself feel that there is no bigger scum than nijisanji fans. At least on the jp side. They treat their own talent worse than they threat hololive talent. They are the nastiest antis. They have no unity. "Love nijisanji, Hate nijisanji fans" that is the enlightened point of view.

>>9634512
Pekora will definitely have higher numbers since those 30k+ who keeps watching her Jump King are mostly there to see her rage and suffer
I don't watch Kuzuha but if i'm not mistaken his main appeal is playing FPS or MOBA and he does well when in collabs and tournaments

>>9634775
Can confirm. Been almost an hour. She's made 0 progress

>>9634654
>the only ones hated are their fans (who worships them and trashes holos)
true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x4BebIeeXE

>>9634771
Eh I think it's time to let bygones be bygones. True enough that Niji fans were elitist back in the day but they've been humbled over the past year. At this point it's just contributing to a slap fight that's ultimately just a bunch of schizos trying to stir up shit.

>>9634771
The /jp/ Nijisanji thread is its own clique that gets babysat by the janny who deletes anything he doesn’t like. They’ll attack anyone new who hasn’t memorized the entire Nijisanji wiki by heart.
They disowned Lulu for being popular with EOPs for instance.

>>9634771
>selen fags shitting up ever thread
to be fair they doesnt come here for some reason.
most shitters use Finana or Pomu as material

>>9634896
>They disowned Lulu for being popular with EOPs for instance.
That seems to be a rather common way of thinking for nijisanji fans in general, no gaijin allowed. It explains why most nijiEN fans are actually holofans.

>>9634812
>She's made 0 progress
because any mistake brings her to the "start"

>>9634771
I'm a Nijifag and I fucking hate the /jp/ circlejerk and I hate the faggots who bring mistranslated 5ch rrats to /vt/ so I can agree on hating the fans, here
Outside they're meh, still tribalistic but not in your face about it.

>>9634894
>Eh I think it's time to let bygones be bygones
kek, I wish I was this young and innocent again.

This thread, in a very ironic twist of fate (given its initial fame as “tribalfag containment zone”), is THE ONE THREAD across the whole catalog where different companies and agencies are discussed side by side in a civilized manner (for varying degrees of civilized).
You’re preaching to the choir here, in any other thread you would be met with a “fuck off retard” for even suggesting that

>>9634999
They also use Japanese terms in Japanese instead of what everyone else does e.g 凸待ち vs totsu or 関西弁 vs Kansai dialect. It’s pretty obvious when one of them wanders onto /vt/ because they keep these writing habits.

>>9634999
>no gaijin allowed
ironic

>>9635084
Eh most Niji and Holo fans get along ok on here, there's even the Anya/Petra general. Pretty sure the shitflinging is a couple of Niji schizos who are asspained that Niji got left in the dust and aren't even close to being top dog anymore, and a couple of Chumbuds who enjoy rubbing Guras numbers in Nijis faces ("Gura killer" threads)

>>9634812
>She's made 0 progress
>>9635020
>because any mistake brings her to the "start"
If she’s smart (and she usually is) she’ll spaghetti hands this for a long time to achieve the “Kanata route” of winning by failing repeatedly and be rewarded for it.

>>9635157
>there's even the Anya/Petra general
kek, you really think that’s unironic instead of a clever way to shit on Petra, the former “Gura killer”?

>>9635180
If you actually read the posts, they've had 2 or 3 threads, most of it is just anons saying they're both cute while baiters bait

>>9635158
I don't even think she'll need to do it on purpose. Her skill level + Jump King's controls are just gonna lead her sliding to her doom for hours on end here.
>>9635157
If the Pope confession threads are any indication, there's a lot of bored idiots who, having found a place that won't instaban them for rratposting, decided to gossip like some goddamn schoolgirls because they find it fun.
Honestly if anons would have a BIT better self-control and used the option option a bit more, things would easily clean themselves up, but that's asking a fuckton.

>>9635084
>in any other thread you would be met with a “fuck off retard”
In the EN thread? Yes because they're still children who think there's a big fight between the companies. In the Niji generals (JP/news, ID, KR, homo)? No, you're allowed to be as new as you want (or even fag) and EOP and people will still give you help, in fact there is a liveTLer for KR on this board

>>9635218
Nothing wrong with gossip, it's a time honored tradition. Honestly the bootlickers who claim you can't know nuffin unless it's an official Cover press release are more annoying than the rratposters. There is nothing inherently wrong with speculation.

>>9635180
Generals have been merging to survive in catalog. When some troll makes 10 bait threads it kicks out some of the generals that are only active during certain times.

>>9635214
Doesn’t change the goal of the thread. I agree that most people in this board are at worst indifferent to other companies and usually receptive. It takes a very little share of shitflingers to derail stuff tho.

Take this very thread: it can go from civilized to a mess in the span of one hour, all it takes is one bait and 5 retards taking it and going full retard with “retaliatory tribalfaggotry”

>>9633093
It’s literally just anniversaries and birthdays? The only thing worth mentioning was Irys but it was a year of no debuts so it wasn’t weird to have one at that time.

Main frame has started, and it seems like almost everyone will be streaming their POV looking at the scheduled frames in Nijimado.

>>9635300
will the main framestay up ?

>>9635283
I wasn't kidding.
>>9592819
There aren't even enough posters to derail it
By your metric every single thread on this board is a trap to shit on vtubers because anyone can walk in and shitpost.

>>9635300
RIP, Everyone watches Kuzuha and everyone else gets left behind like usual then.
I don't even know who the 2nd best player is.

>>9635300
It was a valiant effort, PekoChan, but to fight that it will take a special event and I don’t think any of EN stuff will make it in time for midnight JST.

Today the suspiciously tanned Demiurge lookalike is destined to take that day

>>9633788
No shit, but in /vt/ there seems to be a lot more Nijifans. I wonder why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq8wzd4KJOU
Completely forgot about that game

>>9635391
A lot more than what, /jp/? Probably because that thread is full of cunts with sticks up their asses with a hawk mod. I was in the archive looking for torrents and mods were deleting posts back then that were simply jokes like "i bet they were doing offpako"

>>9635391
>seems to be a lot more Nijifans
You surely mean in comparison with the general western audience. I doubt you mean “more Nijifans than Holofans in this board” because it wouldn’t make sense given the composition of the catalog at any moment of the day

>>9635391
Using nijis to shit on holo with multiple bait threads is easy (You)'s

>>9634061
Newfag here so I don’t know the full story but Nijifans keep attacking Hololive for every single thing they do and they think that “big number = bad, small number= Good and chemistry” but when it comes to Kuzeha they will just focus on his numbers

>Newfag here,

Holostars on suicide watch

>>9635555
Quads of truth

>>9635390
I will believe in Peko-chan

>>9635343
>retaliatory
not hime , but Anya's name is equivalent of "failure" on this board, by "holo-metric".
ps im not saying she is

Nijiboogeyfans is a tradition at this point

Pekora is truly in a hot streak, I can only imagine her September watched hours

>>9635391
Which alternative dimension do you hail from because that sure as hell isn't the state of the /vt/ we are all familiar with.

>>9635300
>>9635390
damn, Gwelu-line is way too high nowadays

>>9635588
It's a hilariously horridly skewed view.
Considering that, just off of her numbers we know, she makes what can be considered the equiv. of a doctor's salary in Indo, and gets that UNTAXED since streaming isn't considered a 'taxable job' there, she's honestly far better off than the vast majority of people in Indonesia, the large majority of Indie vtubers across the world, and is honest to gods not going to graduate based off of numbers any time soon.
Some people (including me) really need to shake the numberrot off and go check what ACTUAL failures for v-tubing look like.

>>9635629
Without his meds everytime he post, his though is full of Nijisanji please understand.

>all the POVs for two teams are up
>Gwelu at 50k
God damn. Is it the Kuzuha waiting room?

>>9635632
ok this is a pretty funny bait kek good job

>>9635658
How "low" can a corp chuuba go before they are getting kicked off even?

>>9635658
You don't even need to dig that deep, just compare her numbers to what nijiID gets and consider that they are the big dogs in ID.
To an ID Anya might as well be an unreachable god when it comes to numbers

>>9635594
>Viewers actually increasing the longer she plays Jump King
How does she do it?

>>9635703
They can’t without killing their brand.
Instead they look at how the branch is doing as a whole. If they can’t at least break even, they get cut.
See NijiIN as an example.

>>9635703
NijiIN numbers

>>9635157
>a couple of Chumbuds who enjoy rubbing Guras numbers in Nijis faces ("Gura killer" threads)
Anon please tell me you're just pretending to be retarded.

>>9635658
>she makes what can be considered the equiv. of a doctor's salary in Indo, and gets that UNTAXED since streaming isn't considered a 'taxable job' there,
Wait what? I don't know anything about Indonesian tax but income is only taxable if you fit into certain professions? What if you're a NEET living off dividend income? It's not taxable? What the fuck?

>>9635703
The girl with a paper mask like the one of the Love Live girl (i forgot both of their names). I think she has graduated yesterday because of low numbers and can't break even from the ads used to promote her.

>>9635772
What was even their numbers when they were still around?

>>9635738
She's actually improving and getting close to beating the game

>>9634334
so watched hours is calculated by CCV x Duration and not Total View x Duration?

>>9635782
Yes we know they're chumbuds. A few of them tried the old "falseflagger" excuse for a while but it fell apart

>>9635588
Only because people keep forgetting about Iofi.

>>9635738
Becomes a really easy stream to just leave on a side tab all day while working... on a Sunday.

>>9635594
She really felt Marine's pressure after her amazing August.

>>9635827
>we

>>9635738
Newfag? that's been a tradition in holoverse

Shartfailure bros...

>>9635827
oh so you're retarded

It would be funny if the tourney king can't beat Pekora playing a kusoge tonight

>>9635825
>not Total View x Duration
For the live watched hours it’s avg CCV * hours. It gives the area below the chart.

Think about it: it turn that convoluted chart into a rectangle with “hours streamed” length and “avg ccv” height, whose product is the area

>>9635814
Oh is that the one where she's also sometimes together with a chuuba that has big tits and some markings on her outfit like Towa's bibi?

>>9635798
It might be because what they get from donations is considered Gifts, and Indonesia does NOT have Gift taxes.
Yea. so they don't get taxed on that. They likely are taxed on anything that YT is paying them as part of VOD views etc, but I'll be honest, I don't know enough about Indo tax law beyond google-fu to give you a proper answer.
Just note that the power of relative currencies factors pretty heavily with this sorta thing though.

>>9635658
>UNTAXED
knowing Cover im pretty sure you are wrong and girls get "salary". but i will be happy to see any evidence.
> just off of her numbers
NTA, holoID have alternative way for donation, besides SCs. so we dont know her "true" numbers.

>>9635924
Please don't respond to this retard

>>9633021
Holy shit the Noooooombers!!!

I want to see Gura drop a Goodbye Sengen cover now to see what kind of noombers that would get since that is the hot meme song right now.

>>9635905
What makes you think it's not? Chumbuds are mostly children and it seems more likely that it's actually chumbuds than an evil squad of antis playing 4d chess by pretending to be chumbuds in a massive falseflag. At some point you've got to stop the cope and realize yes Guras fanbase actually is that shitty. They weren't "falseflagging" when they shit on Fubuki for getting beat to 1 million

>>9635963
Get out of the thread, retard

>>9635932
Thanks anon, is that how Dexerto got their numbers?

>>9635924
Don't worry, Pekora will still be stuck playing Jump King tonight

>>9635944
Ye, there was a thread. But don't take my word as to why is she graduating, i'm just make shit up.
>>9528506

>>9635833
who?

>>9636017
I wouldn’t know about them specifically but that would be the general practice.

>>9636016
Why are you so offended at chumbuds being notorious shitposters?

>>9635782
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8cRVKjl1dQ32mzZdeX2NEg

>>9636079
Yes, everyone should know chumbuds are cumbuds.

This will never fail to impress me
>9k people sitting for 4 and a half hours watching the least proficient Holo JP singer
I understand the “fun is better than good” Japanese karaoke mentality but Noel is one step above that, she truly gets the crowd going

It's impossible not to kneel to Pekora

>>9636079
Why do Gura's numbers make you so butthurt?

>>9636334
This Jump King arc is fully displaying why she's in the industry position she is.

>>9636385
The peak for today is 54k from Gwelu, then there's another peak from Kuzuha. This is Pekora vs Nijisanji now.

>>9635819
Like, 12 people for a regular stream, maybe 50 or a hundred people on a good day. Doesn't help that two of them streamed like twice a week, and this is a branch that only had 3 people

>>9636230
the way she sings is so fucking funny, it's cute as hell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7Ql4D1UnQ
The real King here, kneel kuzuha

>>9636230
this bitch has SOUL anon.
+"good karaokes" are kinda generic

>>9636429
>The peak for today is 54k from Gwel
nta

>>9635814
Oh shit... i remember seeing her ads last year. I liked her singing but kinda forgot about her after a while. I thought her company was doing good since they had a thing with those crane games type of things

>>9636429
>This is Pekora vs Nijisanji now.
Nah, the top 10 in the end of the day it will likely be Gwelu, the royal couple and then whatever Holo managed to get 15k+, like most other days, with an off chance of Hal and Ibrahim being in that zone

>>9635963
>playing 4d chess
>make a thread with Gura image
>holy shit it's cumbud
Yes, I'm the one making those Gura killer threads, how do you know?
t.Chumchad

>>9635827
>we
Is there a more obvious way to give yourself away as a shitposter?

>>9636576
https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1436978640336474121?s=19
Well, maybe hold that thought for a minute.

>>9636702
Is it single POV ?? If it is it can peak very high.

I don't think Kuzuha is going to hit very high numbers today because of the Gwelu POV. Maybe 40-45k.

>>9636702
Okayu, Mio, Fubuki, Marine, Aqua, Shion???
Well that's a solid line-up for Gartic phone.

>>9636429
what did gwelu stream to get these numbers?

>>9636765
He's holding a pokemon tourney and he's the host

>>9636702
40K

>>9636744
40k is most definitely high numbers, beats his yesterday’s numbers for instance

>>9636496
Oh, it passed 2 million already, that would put it as the 7th most viewed Hololive King "cover".

Behind those of Shion, Suisei, Gura and Calli, Risu, Reine, Towa, Roboco, but still ahead of 6 others. Having just passed Kanata's.

>>9636860
>8th.

kek Gwelu has sub-only mode on and he's hosting the Niji PokeUnite tournament's commentator POV so if you want to chat, you have to sub even if you'll never watch him again.

The tourney is a success so far. Everyone is getting higher numbers than usual. Rare to see Hima and Sasaki getting this amount. That was not quite the case for the hololive Mario Kart tourney however.

>>9637064
Sasuga demiurge ripoff.
Truly a most devious scheme.

>>9637064
Smartest businessman in Nijisanji.

>>9636702
Hold what thought? That's the 13th.

>>9637091
(you)

Why does Ina's anniversary stream have lower CCV than her karaoke? Is there any reason for this?

>>9637091
>Sasaki Saku 7,480 watching now
Pretty sure I've seen bigger numbers this month from her.

>>9637170
Because an unarchived karaoke from Ina is better content than a watchalong of her debut since it wasn't as cringe or scuffed as the rest of them.

>>9637170
Unarchived + Rare Ina karaoke buff. You bet I fucked my sleep schedule to catch that, but I can always watch the vod for the Anniversary stream.

>>9637170
Unarchived. Also Ina only put up her frame like an hour before it started.

>>9637170
Just like Gura's karaoke and half anniversary watchalong.(She still has almost 1M VOD though)

>>9637203
A part of me is happy that Gura already did a watch along of her Debut stream so she forced to do something else entirely

>>9637170
Pretty simple answer, it started off higher, but peaked lower and plateaued faster because it wasn't as interesting.
She just sort of reacted to older videos.

>>9637091
>A company-wide tournament that took weeks to plan and prepare for, composing of a hyped team-making stream and over 3 dozen scrim streams across all of Nijisanji.
> A impromptu tournament Towa organized in less a week where none of the participants bothered to practice for, let alone take a bit seriously
Here's your (you)

>>9637312
And that almost overlapped with a second similarly scuffed MarioKart tournament for EN+ID

>>9637203
>>9637218
>>9637254
>>9637261
>>9637307
Oh okay, I was expecting the same number as her birthday stream (38k). Is anniversary buff that's week if it isn't 3D?

>>9637341
Naw, he's not talking about the EN+ID one because everyone got good numbers for that tournament. Ina 22k is not a normal occurrence and all the ID girls peaked way higher than their normal peaks.

Gotta cherry-pick your baits afterall.

>>9637408
An anniversary stream thats just talking and/or reacting to debut is going to be a minor to modest buff unless they're doing something like a totsu, which then grants it a collab buff.

>>9637408
Duh! It’s not the calendar date that buff the stream, it’s the event. A streamer wouldn’t get big numbers on the anniversary if it is, for instance, just a superchat reading
>except Ayame, of course

>>9637408
Weak*

>>9637440
i thought this ll be karaoke

>>9637408
>Is anniversary buff that's week if it isn't 3D?
18k buff is a pretty good one for Ina, but it's usually totsus that drive up the numbers for anniversary/bday streams.
I do think it was a bit of an underperformance considering Gura got 20k and Council got 31k in their collabs today. Maybe a part of Ina's audience just wasn't available this weekend.

>>9637408
It might be the overlap too, since they were all 5 within 24 hours.
Everyone's just waiting for the last, Gura's anniversary stream, or the inevitable group celebration.

Pekora lost a couple thousand to Rushia playing Smash (expected since there's a lot of overlap in fans amongst Gen 3), but the good thing is, Pekora will still be streaming Jump King when most of the HoloJP streams end tonight.
0 progress in 2 hours LETS GOOOO

>>9637312
Wasn't even a tournament, she made up the teams per cup depending on the points each player got the previous round.

>>9637570
This would never happen with the KING because his viewers are loyal. Holoshit box pushing/view funneling was exposed in the MK tourney. Without it, their streamers are midgets. Kuzuha can stream together with a million of different POVs and he still gets good numbers.

>>9637635
great idia btw, Kiara should used it

>>9637635
Ya mb, it was a collab, not a tournament lol.

Update on the Pokemon Unite tournament for numbers:
Kuzuha's team is playing in about an hour or so and his peak will depend on if he reaches/wins the finals. Looking at the brackets tho, his team is very likely making it out of his side and the only team that really matches up is Fuwa's team, but even then, Kuzuha's team won a lot of scrims against them yesterday.
50k+ is very possible imo.

>>9637670
(you)
Someone show this faggot the proper MarioKart tournament tournament numbers.

>>9637747
Naw, it's not worth the effort. Just ignore him.

>>9637747
All that effort for a shitposter. Don't bother.

>>9637747
sry im not retarded to eat the bait

>>9637702
is there a possibility that kuzuha is purposefully being put in a strong team in order to get the maximum numbers possible?

Kuzuha can jungle every game and 1 vs 5.
It'd be shocking if he didn't win this.

>>9637838
Are you the same schizo that thought Kuzuha was purposefully placed with Ryosuke Yamada in VCC to maximize his numbers?

The teams were determined by lottery and he's by far the best person on his team, so the answer is no.

>>9637893
calm down dude, i'm just speculating. And that's not me, i just don't watch nijiJP Mariokart religiously to know all of their skill level.

>>9637893
>thought Kuzuha was purposefully placed with Ryosuke Yamada in VCC to maximize his numbers
w8 what?

>>9637838
Anything's fair game when it comes to nijisanji. They have chinese investors as BoD, they would want to maximize profits in any way they can. Anyway, you're going to get called stupid now.

>>9637893
NTA but I am. I'm still standing on the point that Niji does everything to make Kuzuha their poster boy.

>>9637941
>>9637838

>>9637932
>nijiJP Mariokart
It's Pokemon Unite btw. Your post just reeks of the cope salty anons get when they think Niji rigs their events for Kuzuha to succeed, when in reality, he's carrying the events most of the time numbers-wise.

>>9637933
There was one anon a while back that was convinced that Anycolor paid off the tournament organizers to pair off Kuzuha with one of the most popular FPS JP streamers on Twitch and a J-idol star so he can maximize his numbers. It was like talking to a flat-earther/moon-landing denier.

>>9638020
whoops my bad, i just finished reading the holo mariokart discussion i forgot. How does the VCC teams get picked then? was it also lottery?

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>>9638117
mb this>>9637635

>>9638117
No it's picked by the organizers. Not Anycolor, but the fpsfags.
>>9637941
meds

>>9638121
And she fell and she's down to 37k again in an instant.
This is pretty good "proof" of the tab-out theory honestly lol.

>>9637091
>That was not quite the case for the hololive Mario Kart tourney however.
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