/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>https://piyo.chats.ninja/ (RIP)
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

Home Sweet Home

>>9537305
After the pokemon tourney, are there any notable events for Niji? Is it gonna be valorant spam for Kuzuha?

Membership correlation
EN FAMILY

will EN2 be smart enough not to overlap Ina`s rare karaoke tonight?

>>9537550
Isn't this an old chart?

>>9537560
Who's karaoke?

>>9537630
I have no idea, I just found it elsewhere .
At least after ID2 membership

>>9537394
Kuzuha: endless fps tournaments
The rest: Possible Halloween event, MK8 in the winter

>>9537560
Probably just Kiara

>>9537305
This is the 2nd time in the last week that Korone got near 30k because of Miko. Miko is going to make Korone a top dog (hehe) again.

>>9537305
Nijisanji is literally one Kuzuha company. They can't keep pushing him like this, where the fuck is Maimoto and why doesn't he try to help carrying Niji?

>>9537821
Kiara already stated she’s ending early for Ina.
Either way her PS5 is stuck in customs and she’s not reading superchats until next week

>>9537854
Suisei also got a decent boost from collabing with Miko. Miko seems interested in using her drawing power to help grow Hololive while Pekora would rather keep to herself.

>>9538125
>while Pekora would rather keep to herself.
For fuck sake anon... not one day ago

>>9538251
this proves nothing

>>9538251
That is a one off. Miko has done multiple collabs with Korone in the last week and has been doing regular collabs with Suisei all year.

So, I just got out the bar with a drunk Riku from AnyKara. On the way home to his house, I asked him what plans does he have for NijiEN male wave. He replied, "The plan is as always. Get them designs that westerners might like." I asked him what it was. He drunkenly spoke, "They like Jojo right? The designs for nijimale wave are the crusaders. The sixth guy coming next year is a narcissistic blonde to fit the villain theme." I told him that it was genius, and then he slept with a smile on his face thinking that he had all the westerners figured out.

>>9538544
Oh wait, wrong thread.

Man looking at the Hololive Council sub numbers Kronii is really starting to pull away from the rest of her gen mates if she keep going at this rate by next Friday or Saturday she will pass Anya by

>>9538125
Live views ≠ How famous you are
I would say subs = How famous you are
Everyone knows Korone,Fubuki,Coco...
But their live views aren't good

>Is Korone more famous than Subaru?
Yes,but her live views aren't better than Subaru
>Is Pewdiepie more famous than xQc?
Yes,but his live views aren't better than xQc

Simple as

>>9538125
>decent
I wouldn't call 2k more than the average peak for Suisei decent, it's relatively normal for her.

Rushia just decided to show who`s the real queen of asmr today

>>9538794
Rushia is doing an endurance ASMR stream until she hits 1.4m

>>9538716
Its her gaming streams that got a boost after she started collabing with Miko. Her singing streams have always done well.

>>9538889
it's hard to guess that, she was already inclining since before miComet became a regular thing this year. The first miComet collab on Suisei's channel this year was on January 25 and they didn't collab again until March 26 (I'm guessing this on thumbnails alone) but her average peak for gaming stream was slowly going up between that time anyways.

https://youtu.be/IhiievWaZMI
First vtuber live stream VOD views >6 M

In the savanna there is one and the most important rule
>the lion eats
Mito, Kanae and Ibrahim pulled good numbers too but Kuzuha is too strong, he distorts everything around him and make close objects to look smaller than they are

Pekora's staying power too, a thing of beauty
>21k glued to their seats for more than 3 and a half hours

>>9540776

>>9539992

I do wonder how high do you think the views for an actual alternate outfit debut for Pekora be ?

>>9541311
Easy 100k+

>>9541172
How the hell is she still gaining subs, Lulu graduated the day before and she's already lost a few thousand

>>9542057
She graduated into an “Old Girl” and is still present in the imaginary of the audience of that agency, being a frequent mention.

>>9540690
Good numbers but the content is mainstream trash
He's no different from big Twitch streamers who play the same popular thing everyday for tens of thousands of braindead viewers.

>>9541311
At least more than Gura

>>9542751
What are you even talking about? He (and Kanae and Ib) have spent the last 2 weeks playing R6 siege for a tournament. The main event was today.

>>9542751
is this the numbers thread or content thread btw if you take away apex, valorant... ah i'm lazy to type it out KUZUHA CHANNEL 2VIEWS CHECKMATE NIJIS

>>9542057
Coco still remains her past streams, only member streams will be deleted/privated.

I know box pushing is a thing most vtuber groups try to do to some degree but I was watching one of the more popular girls from a small startup the other day and she was straight up shilling the rest of the girls from her group to her viewers. Like the entire stream was just her watching clips of everyone else. It's probably a good use of her 300+ viewers since a bunch of those are people that only watch her, so I'm thinking about lurking around to see if any of the other girls see a jump in viewers.

>>9543018
L*l*'s archives are still up too, even if you just discovered her now and wanted to watch all her past content I'm not entirely sure what the point of subbing now is.

>>9542751
Could you at least say this when he's playing Apesex and not Rainbiw shit siege

>>9537305
>Kuzuha beats an Ayame coomer stream
king

the first 10 mil vtuber.

>>9543275
It's the same thing. Shoot with gun. Run around. Get shot with gun. Die. Respawn. Run. Shoot. Ect.

You were saying, sir?

>>9543088
Shiki?

how many subscribers will Gura have next year at this time if she continues to have this kind of growth

>>9543538
150k/month * 12 months = +1.8M

>>9543418
the first 110 mil vtuber.

>>9543595
assuming Hololive won't die, is it possible for Gura to catch up to Hikakin

>>9543817
LMAO

>>9543449
Yeah.

>>9543817

20k average in dead hours. I kneel peko.

Stop posting gura clips on lsf it messes up the VOD numbers.

>>9544667
No one is stopping you from posting Apecks vampire on there.

woah

>>9542057
Ale was still gaining subs with 0 videos.
Coco still has 770 videos and that gain ... 40k vies a day
What happened on the 23rd of August?
Did they unprivate an old video for her channel? Or was there was there a clip that caught some attention and sent people to her channel?

>I-INA'NIS!?
I K-KNEEL!

>>9545515
Oh my god, my english hurts, re-writing this.

>>9542057
Aloe was still gaining subs even with 0 videos.
Coco still has 770 videos for people to watch, that gain ... 40k views a day

What happened on the 23rd of August?
Did they unprivate an old video for her 'dead' channel?
Or was there a clip that caught some attention and sent people to her channel?

>>9543817
>assuming Hololive won't die, is it possible for Gura to catch up to Hikakin
If Hikakin freezes his channel with the current sub count and Gura keeps the current massive growth pace, she would catch up to him in
>(10M subs - 3.35M subs) / (150k subs / month)
equals 3 years and 8 months, somewhere after May 2025.

That's on the assumption he stops getting subs right now meaning it's a good floor for when she would be able to catch up to him at her current pace.
Of course he will continue growing so the date would be further down the line

>>9545369
One is Japanese one is English

I wonder if the Japanese are making any notable use of the YouTube clip feature. That lsf stuff is the only time I've seen a significant use of it.

>>9545907
Korone is loved by hamburger land

r/hololive barely uses that feature

>sustained upper 10k/lower 20k for 6 hours between 12 PM at 5:30 AM JST

I want you to kneel to Pekora until I allow you to stand.

GO INA GO

>Ina
>19.7k
>utawaku
Where's the Holorecline poster?

>>9546377
How about this?
https://youtu.be/5qap5aO4i9A

I KNEEL

peckers...

>>9546529
>>9546619
Priestess I kneel

pekora isn`t even on half of the map by the way

>>9546563
>comparing a 9 million sub normie music channel to a 1.7 million sub vtuber

any time i start thinking this might be a good place to discuss stream statistics i am reminded that the average inhabitant of this thread is a mouthbreather that only understands big numbers and nothing else.

>>9546619
>EOPs will appear when EN doing something else instead of playing games over and over again

>>9546982
none of en1 or en2 are actually good at games. they range from either shit to ok

>>9546563
>9M
Dead subs Lo-Fi

>>9546916
>comparing 8 month non-stop stream to maximum 12 hr stream
240 days vs 0.5 day Yeah, BIG number

>>9546982
oh nooo people are showing up to a streamer's livestream where did we go wrong nooooo

>>9546982
I think the EN girls know this, but this kind of stream is way more taxing than just throwing on a game and chatting over it, so they can't do these as frequently. It's a balancing act.

>>9547065
240 days vs 0.5 day
480 times stream times, only has 6 time

>>9546829
>pre-primetime unarchived karaoke vs. hour 7 of an endurance stream nearly half a day removed from usual streaming hours

do better. although i'm sure you can set some cumbud's ass on fire with these numbers.

Then with all the mainstream talk here, bringing this one back, since they came out within a day of each other

>WHO would win?
>Newest, fully animated MV from one of the most popular musical acts in Japan?
>A shark singing with her dad?
>Ye

THE RESULT IS A RESULT.

And this is why we have this, different taste (content) for different people. Not including time availability, studies, work or whatever

>>9547339
AYASE GET BEHIND ME

>>9547339
The most https://youtu.be/XqZsoesa55w
The fastest https://youtu.be/WMweEpGlu_U

>>9547061
Gura is good at rhythm games...

>>9547497
yeah i guess i forgot about that but after the first couple of times playing rhythm games isn't much of an attraction since they'll be playing the same song over and over again

>>9547061
Passpartout?

>>9547849
That's just a drawing stream to me, not a game stream especially since the games hates certain colours. being good at drawing means nothing if you use the wrong colours.

>>9537305
>only 1 niji in the top 10

>>9548467
Kuzuha is the only relevant Niji when no special events are going on.

ina numbers
>>9548489
>>9548515
obviously, youtube has not verified all of them since 20k live vs 40k vod

>>9548650
I noticed this has been happening a lot to the EN girls recently. I wonder if Youtube changed something.

>>9548707
they did have the change which caused a couple of YouTubers to see a drop in subs so maybe that affected views as well. I mean with how shit the site is they could change the like colour to pink and it would probably break the site

>>9548650
Live viewers on YouTube is a metric that can't be trusted

>>9548650
it means her fans are willing to stay for longer than shark lmao

You can actually see where Ina started and stopped, i didn't expect this overlap between them.

>>9547139
It's also worth considering whether streams like karaoke are only a buff in the first place due to their relative novelty and rarity for EN. In comparison they don't seem to act as much of a buff for any JPs aside from Suisei. Whether or not Gura could consistently get 35k+ on her public karaoke streams if she was doing them weekly is open to debate.

>>9547414
This is one of the worst attempts at curve fitting I ever saw and I doubt the R2 is above 0.4

There are clearly three patterns there, and a couple of outliers

>Pattern 1: straight line from Astel to Kiara all the way to Pekpra
>Pattern 2: straight line from the bottom stars to Calli
>Outliers: Gura, all of Council

>>9549102
Ina did stream in JP prime sometime. I remember she had a Minecraft stream elytra hunt where she sucks up a decent amount of tourists in that time slot from Pekora.

>>9549102
its 6 am JST and shes the only holo streaming right now...

Pekora is FUCKING INCLINING because it's 6AM in Japan and her audience is waking up.

She's going for broke, she's going to make bank with today's watched hours.

>>9549180
For every EN member besides Gura, I agree. Karaokes aren't a rare occurence for her. She has the most out of all Myth.
For the JPs, I was under the impression that karaoke streams bring some of their best numbers, bar anticipared collabs, FOTM games, and special events.

>>9547414
Not bad for IRyS

>>9549568
Irys gets too much undeserved shit around here just because her CCV isn't amazing, but she's actually doing really good.

>>9549180
Kiara got some strong numbers by doing gartic phone with holo-artists and her mother recently, similar with Gura's minecraft shenanigans on the JP server anything out of the ordinary would indeed get higher numbers, not exactly a shocking observation.

>>9537550
>chumbuds like mori and kiara less
Heh

>>9547103
They are streaming since march 2018 with only a small interruption back in February 2021

>>9549730
>anything out of the ordinary would indeed get higher numbers
Only if it has a good hook. Just being unusual doesn't bring numbers, look at Sana's holoscope stuff.

Pekora is "pulling a Kanata" and winning by struggling. I can smell the SC money rolling in when she clears it

sana in anew timeslot but alone at the moment except for pekora
Warior ware singleplayer isntthat great for stream
so im guessing 4k-5k just like nene stream.

Jump king is a buff game if streamers can clear it
Just like getting over it

> "Hey this part looks kinda familiar"
>*Checks Jump King speedrun video*
> Pekora is only 35% into the game
Yeah... she's not finishing the game this stream.
She might actually peak at the end of the stream when JPs wake up tho.

>>9549888
shes never going to clear it on this stream, anon, she barely made it to half

>>9549881
I'm sure it brings high numbers for female listeners though

Pekora ran a few polls just now, with around 3.6k votes out of the 20k viewers. Isn't the engagement here a little low if these are actively watching?

>>9550717
>Isn't the engagement here a little low if these are actively watching?
The poll didn't stay up for enough time to "Just now" disappear from the time passed in it. One minute, tops.

>>9550717
Apparently usual poll engagement is 20-40% for streams.

That's why it's so absurd when vtubers have polls with 110-200% participation in less than 30 minutes.

>>9550717
Viewers fell asleep while leaving the stream on.

>>9550717
the poll was up for less than a minute lol
I couldn't even see the % breakdown before she pulled it down

>>9550717
shes had/having breakfast break, not many are paying attention, me included - i didnt even see the poll

>>9550961
>>9550760
Watching the stream

>>9551004
>>9550825
>>9550717
Not watching the stream

>>9550760
>>9550825
>>9550937
>>9550961
>>9551004
That's fair, just a little hard to fathom 20k people actually watching at this time.

Follow up on Gura's Tiktok numbers from yesterday.

This is a direct comparison with the top CN chuubas.

>>9551090
It's not that hard to fathom when you imagine a bit of a baton pass going on.
JOPs went to sleep as EOPs woke up and tuned in. Her chat is still filled with JP comments, but there are noticeably more EN comments in the past few hours.
Pekora herself noticed and has been speaking her meme English every 20 mins or so since she knows kaigainikis love that shit.

>>9551090
>just a little hard to fathom 20k people actually watching at this time.
Why? It's saturday morning in Japan and friday night in the US. Weebs have ZERO to do outside

>>9551157
That's Doyin or TikTok proper?

Warioware is the new buff game

>>9551196
I mean just comparing to her usual streams, having 80% of your usual viewerbase still watching at 6am is an anomaly compared to basically every other streamer where as their stream leaves their usual time, they see much harsher dips. But you and >>9551184 do make a good point that its the beginning of the weekend. Even I had forgotten what day it is.

>>9551234
Its CN, so the former.

>>9547699
This would be true for somebody who isn't necessarily great at the game. People will watch though if the gamer is good and Gura is really fucking good at games like Project Diva.

>>9551390
Holy, not even officially on the platform and completely mogs the shit outta both. That's just ridiculous.

>>9551314
it really isnt
is just sana decide to stream at a good timeslot.
Nene got 5k too
and kanata and marine was 25k.
i wouldnt call it a debuff but it also not a buff.
>>9551157
whoeve is handling that account is making bank

>>9549141
actually a kuzuha killer, he's just holding back

>>9551760
NTA, but he has a point.
If you've seen Gura's most recent Project Diva stream, it was much lower than her normal numbers. There will never be a day when no one wants to watch Gura play rhythm games, but without new songs, the novelty does wear off for more casual viewers.

>>9551849
Ya, he kills Kuzuha by dragging down the Nijimale mean and median numbers that Kuzuha works so hard to carry.

Sana actually seems to be in a really good spot. Nothing wrong with being the runt of the gen, somebody has to be the lowest after all. She seems to have already fostered a bit of a cult like following much like Kiara which you can tell from the good superchats she is doing. I'm actually more worried about Baelz. I think she has a lot more potential to do huge numbers than Sana but she hasn't found her niche yet and she doesn't get the super chats like Sana. Baelz needs to start playing some buff games instead of shit like Bayonetta.

>>9549141
>>9551849
He streamed Minecraft some weeks ago and got some pretty decent numbers (for his standard). Higher than what most sharts get usually: https://playboard.co/en/video/wwausS-47Zs

>>9552120
4-5k is a good midget number flare is there most of the time except minecraft.
i wouldnt worry too much about te rrat im sure once she start doing more popular games she will have a good place even on jp time.

>>9552120
Bae might see a good incline once the collab ban is lifted and she can play with the jps.

>>9552171
The power of having a "Very High" Like rate and a "Very High" Dislike rate...
Hajime is the true numbers king.

Jokes aside, this is funny as fuck.

Can Mumei save Baelz's numbers?

>>9551760
i'll watch gura regardless of what she streams but her most recent project diva stream was 100% repeat songs so i can see people dropping out of it

This mad-lib theatre stream is a cute idea. I can't help but think this concept would do mad numbers if it was Gura and Mori or maybe Gura and Ame.

HoloEN numbers (for now)

>>9554411
>Baelz 1460..

>>9554668
it is a watcalong
>>9553759
it is a nice idea on paper but is limted by live2d
mad lib is suposed to be acting an improved script.
i can ssee it working on 3d

>>9554743
>watcalong
know, still..

>>9554411
Allow me to get the shitpost outta the way
"EN is reclining! These numbers are garbage! Retire the entire branch!"
Counterpoint being of course: Normally there'd be NO public(there's an Ame members stream rn) HoloEN streams today otherwise. The fact that Myth can now have overlapped days off while still having someone streaming is a big plus for HoloEN as a whole as it means better retention and more potential collabs in the long run, something that EN was really lacking compared to the JP branch.

3.6k watching Sana and 8k watching Mumei-Baelz. That's only 11k, pretty bad day or is it because its Friday?

>>9555198
Sana only ever gets between 3-6k.

>>9555198
theres still a lot of eops on pekoras chat

Since the Rat is not also streaming, Mumei is a bit low if it’s combining her audience.

>>9555442
Rat is a debuff.

>>9555198
Ina just got 20k earlier today.
It's moreso Sana hasn't established a big audience that wants to watch her because her stream times are all over the place and EN viewers aren't interested in Mad-libs.

>>9555442
IMO, its more the choice of content. Mad-libs seems like something that would be better suited for Kronii as one of the members, given her talents.

>>9555409
Pekora is climbing up again, she's up to 23.7k now.

>>9555869
Rrat feels like she's trying too hard to be funny

Who are the top 10 male Nijis? Kuzuha > Kenmochi >Kanae (KKK) after that I don't know anymore, specially with the introduction of Edengumi.

>>9552224
Once the ban is lifted she'll proceed to further kill her numbers by collabing mainly with the holostars.

>>9555987
She actually reached 25k when she reached the next zone, and then dropped again when she fell. It's quite likely she'll have a new peak at the end of the stream, assuming she doesn't spend the next 2 hours being stuck and falling even lower.

>>9554411
Mama pls save council today

>>9556643
i hope she is good in MK

>>9556797
She said she's worse than Bae and Bae wasn't that good in her MK stream. MK skill doesn't matter for MK numbers apart from MK tournaments tho.

>>9556180
gwelu os gar is the biggest strongest most famous niji male. hope it helps.

>>9557254
>MK skill doesn't matter for MK numbers apart from MK tournaments tho
I think it does, more challenge for viewers, and besides who wouldn't want to watch their oshi being a pro

>>9557254
Skill definitely matters. The better the streamer, the more engaged the viewers are gonna be.

Who said Gura was queen of VOD views again? Dead subs? Dead subs.

>>9556797
oh a kouhai is playing MK? It'd be a shame if someone accidentally collabcrashed it again

>9557909
hope you live for a long time but constantly ill and in excruciating pain

>>9557983
Gurano!

>>9557694
>Skill definitely matters. The better the streamer, the more engaged the viewers are gonna be.
This is true. It certainly helps them.

Today's superchats

HoloEN numbers update

>>9560325
BASED FUCKING LUTO!!!

>>9560325
Thank god for Iinchou saving the day from the shitstorm if there were no nijis here
And that's the 3rd time Tomeru charted for the exact same stream, that's got to be a record I'm sure

>>9560693
what did she do?

>>9560693
birthday + gimmick always does well, I saw some fat akasupas from her gachis

>>9560325
>Ayame top 1
sasuga cuck queen

>>9547061
Gura is above average in rhythm games
Ina and Ame is decent/average in all games
Kiara might be good in games, but I don't watch RPGs
Most of EN2 aside from baelz is probably good at games, but my god their game choices in the first 3 weeks, gotta wait lil bit till they show their bread and butter games.

>>9561041
Surprisingly Kiara is actually really quick to understand games, her major setback is that she looks at chat 90% of the time while playing or plays through OBS.

>>9550580
Have you played jump king before? It's not like Getting over it or Undertale. You could be one step before winning the whole game, and one mistake would get you back at spawn. The fall is rage-inducing.

>>9561041
Kronii has shown us what her taste in games is and its debuff city..

>>9561161
How can you say this when watching her play JRPGs would make anyone want rip out their hair.

I see Baelz is going the Risu route of not emphasizing her singing ability

>>9547061
Fauna revealed she's a former Dota 2 player and it shows how good she was at reading the flow of the Pokemon moba. Kronii has shown to be one of more deductive and smart gamer from the games she has picked, you can see with how she progressed far in 12 minutes without guidance compared to the other holos that played it. Sana did pretty well on the I am Bread game which ive seen most players really struggle with the controls and result in it being seen as a rage game.

>>9561041
Gura is much better than "above average" in rhythm games. She was coming 1 and 2 misses away from perfecting songs on extreme and extra extreme in Project Diva on her last stream. That is actually insane.

>>9560959
>gimmick
what is Red gura's gimmick?

>>9561978
That's cool but how does that help her compete against the King? She needs to master apex else the chart would be topped by King

>>9561918
>Sana did pretty well on the I am Bread game which ive seen most players really struggle with the controls and result in it being seen as a rage game.
Sana did well on Celeste too. To me she’s clearly more skilled at games than the other Gen2. I think most people don’t know how she compares simply because they don’t watch her streams.

>>9562521
Birthday endurance stream that gets extended for every $100 donated.

>>9561361
Like I said, when she's streaming her INT goes down to 1.
During Fire Emblem she was so shit at the game until she did some grinding offstream when she finally ended up learning all the mechanics of the game.
Same with Mario Kart, she did many, many MK8 streams while being dog shit at it and the one time she practices off stream she suddenly becomes decent at it.

To me it seems as if Sana intentionally wants to play harder games, because when warioware wasn’t hard enough, she created a harder difficulty by not using any game continues. Everything’s was start over. I think she’s trying to foster an audience that wants to see her challenged.

>>9563720
She's definitely in this to challenge herself, and that mentality does seem to extend the game. Probably not the best for her numbers but it may develop a loyal niche fanbase like you said.

>>9563720
She also told people not to expect art streams unless under special occasions.
Art streams will mostly be members only.

>>9563098
She does these SC bait streams a few times, and all of them are paying off. Good numbers for a 3-digits chuuba.

>>9563870
She could hit a goldmine if she does these challenge streams with minecraft. #1 female minecraft player is not a bad title to have on the internet.

>>9563098
If red Kuzuha does this, I'd be seething till no end. It's stupid the same as her Rick roll challenge.

>>9564335
Except she's a complete newbie to Minecraft, it's gotta be some other game. Fauna is the one with the most Minecraft knowledge in the gen anyway

>>9563098
Guroa!?

It's Pokémon unite tourney today right? Who will win, Nene's outfit reveal or Kuzuha's Pokémon. Again, the numbers on niji's side would still heavily lean to Kuzuha since he has a moba history. If he wins, it'll be numbers again. But they probably can't get 50k whereas Nene's outfit could get 50k minimum.

>>9565227
If she's got the full hour slot, then IMO she'll get 50k easily for her outfit.

Is there a recent-ish estimate on membership numbers for HoloEN

>>9565712
She's getting that sweet 9PM JST box push slot. Based of Kiara's schedule, Nene is getting a free 30 minutes slot.

>>9565874
I thought other branch can overlap with each other? Just like when Mori got her outfit reveal, lot of jp holos was streaming and recently even ID overlap when 'big' event happen for jp holos like risu streaming while sora has her 4th anniversary even tonight iofi is streaming at the same time as Nene outfit reveal, hope Nene got full hour even when all her gen mate got 30 minutes

>>9565712
>she's got the full hour slot
30 min only, dont expect huge numbers

>>9566133
The reason why JPs streamed over Mori's costume IIRC was Watame just had her costume and she was reading superchats. She told her audience to tune into Mori's stream during the reveal and made it a watchalong.

Mori streamed over Flare's 3D live because she was doing a endurance stream and needed to go on vacation the next day. Haachama streamed over Towa's 3D live because she brainfarted. Moona and Risu just dgaf tho.

It doesn’t seem like anyone in Gen2 comes close to Kronii is SC. I don’t think that will never change.

https://youtu.be/qNIhngowViI
5 million, almost less than 10 days (+ 56 min)

>>9567178
How does it compare to Reflect?

>>9567247
Already faster in 4M milestone

Mumei seems to be dropping in SC.

>>9561978
Which isn't much to say if we speak of difficulties in rhythm games.

As others says, Gura is good at those games, but just above average (and only good on those who doesn't has too many different patterns, and with an easy learning curve). If she challenge herself with other difficult games (on Switch there's a lot of them, like Arcaea, GC or Cytus) like Fubuki or Matsuri, then i will say she is better than those two

What happened to the Fauna stream? Wasn't there supposed to be one earlier?

>>9567693
It looks like she took it down.

>>9567693
>she took it down
wrong
here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07OGC-EtBas

>>9567877
>>9567693
>she took it down
wrong
here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07OGC-EtBas [Embed]

>>9567974
Just doesn’t show under videos for me, which I noticed after that anon asked about it.

>>9568037
yeah , standard YT bullshit, i grabbed it from her twitter

>>9567907
Unarchive streams are not counted?

>>9537550
>Virtually no EN watchers are membered to the JP Holos
Jesas, I knew EN was a normalfag bubble but it's really stark looking at this. EN is almost entirely comprised of people who never watch any other Hololive streams, explains why EN is so cancerous compared to other fanbases.

>>9568191
So she got shadowbanned?

>>9560325
Okay, so I know Nanana just graduated and Tomeru is Tomeru but what the hell did #8 and #10 do to be that high up?

>>9567247
Oh,if you mean exact time:( K vs R )
4M : (6d 12h 26m vs 7d 7h 20m)
5M : (10d 56m vs 12d 13h 59m)

>>9567907
>Lamy and Botan #3 and #4
5th Gen strong

>>9568881
how new?
just w8 for an 1 hour. some times YT does bullshit like this.
for example
https://holo.poi.cat/youtube-stream
already shows it

btw 5,799 / 8,305

>>9569037
I don't think Gura's future songs can beat Reflect's 1M record unless her fanbase grows 1.5x by then.

>>9569037
Damn I wonder if they will be able to beat reflect, I mean they’re already pass the halfway mark

>>9569034
>#10

>[Endurance for 60,000] Endurance for 60,000 and Yakuman as well, and see which one can be achieved first !!!! [Masquerade / #Pepero Nekoda]]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPC3WJfXccY

>>9569092
New outfit reveal stream buff

Dunno if someone has been tracking but is Sana the slowest growing Holo in subs since the 2020 boom? I feel like the ID 2 had grown faster than her past their debut buffs.

>>9569201
REFLECT slowed down significantly 2 times:(my opinion)
1. after 3M ( it was released on all current platforms)
2. after 6M (No MV, people chose to listen on better quality music site)

>>9569299
Maybe higher than Anya in terms of growth rate.
Sana's ccv is high for a 150K-vtuber. She needs to get more subs before increasing her ccv.

>>9569741
>She needs to get more subs before increasing her ccv.
Yeah Sana needs more subs. I checked to see how she is doing in SC for today. Kronii would’ve obviously had the highest SC for Gen2 if she had streamed.

HoloEN Gen2 SC for Sept 10 (from checking playboard):
Sana: $1,766
Fauna: $1,401
Mumei: $1,113
Baelz: $611

>>9570164
>Baelz
watchalong

>>9570257
Even so, Baelz has been lowest in SC for her gen thus far.
Part of its got to do with game choices, part of its got to do with audience perhaps. She doesn't really do much to entice SCs from what I've watched in streams.

>>9570257
This is Baelz from playboard (in pic).

>>9570299
i just wanted to add clarity, but this is bad>>9570415

>>9569426
Don't forget the Topic version, it's already racked up 2.1 million views.

>>9568475
Why would someone who doesn't speak Japanese buy a membership for a JP streamer? You're too used to very niche 4chan culture, most people don't regularly watch streams they can't even understand.

Is the shizuka rin solo event hyped?

>>9570692
I consider topic version comes from Youtube Music, the system just sets an auto-generated channel to show views and make it easier to access.

>>9570692
Also, Youtube Music has a better audio quality than Youtube.

>>9570795
>Why would someone who doesn't speak Japanese buy a membership for a JP streamer?
ASMR

>>9571006
What about Fauna?

>>9570415
Is "Gura Killer" a curse?

>>9571050
she does NOT even have mem yet, anon!
+ASMR is more about voice and skill.
language doesn't really matter.
+Personality matters and HoloJP still part of HoloBubble

>>9570415
Baelz gets as many donators as the other girls (except Kronii), but her fans are low spenders. She has the lowest $/SC out of all Council.
To keep up with the total amount of her genmates, she needs to either increase her fan counts by doing buff activities or start doing soft gfe to milk her current fans or both.

>>9565227
I'm expecting 60k on both. Kuzuha got 42k in R6S tourney and from his scrims on both games pokemon gets higher live viewers. Nene has 30 mins like Botan did and it got 60k. She also posted PPAP on leddit that got upvoted to hell, EOPs definetly know her.

>>9571351
Bae hasn't really done much in terms of SC baiting for savior baiting, so unsurprising.
Just to put it in perspective though, her previous channel has sub 3k across her entire several month stint there.
I can't believe I'm going to say this, but Bae is honestly too grounded compared to her genmates. Kronii is depressed, Sana and Mumei are saviorfag bait, and Fauna has ASMR and personality as 'mother nature' to bait SC.

>>9571581
>Kronii is depressed
you mean coomerbait, both in looks and voice. I agree with everything though.

Haachama 【UNARCHIVED】ENGLISH KARAOKE
>15 min in
>4.5k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTka_eb-Ti4

>>9565874
>Nene is getting a free 30 minutes slot
She's not, mio is streaming wario with ayame and FBK in the same time

>>9572200
Dementia, she's going to delay that stream by 30 minutes.

>>9572200
i am actualy pissed at todays shedule. Nekomatas live 2D update and announcment is overlaping with KanaTowa sponsored concert and now the big collab overall with Nenes new costume.

>>9572367
>KanaTowa sponsored concert
oh shit i thought it was premiier

>>9572155
Weak numbers for Chammers, pandering to EOPs might be backfiring now that EN is on a slide

>>9572367
those sponsored stream on the main channel are really hit or miss. I think it will have trouble reaching 25k

>>9572491
She's been pandering to EOPs for years...
If anything, EN2 is eating a lot of HoloJP audience just like what happened when EN1 came out.

>>9572491
No, its advertised as a 3d live , but the adverting is intentionally cryptic

>>9537550
What's with the massive line where Anya is?
Is she that segregated? Or is it not proportional to # of subs?

Does nobody have the fucking EN/JP percentage numbers for live chat to see if holoJP is really bleeding all their EOPs? Is it impossible to track it now or something?

>>9572682
i don't know how the the fans feel outside of 4chan but KanaTowa has been wished for since before /vt/ even existed so there should be quite some hype and i am sure the "sponsored by square enix" is bound to catch some tourists

>>9572821
>Does nobody have the fucking EN/JP percentage numbers for live chat
i saw such thing in this threads

>>9572703
>just like what happened when EN1 came out
Is that what happened? I remember being surprised when Towa, with her high eop percentage , saw no fall off after en launched. In fact her numbers increased.

>>9572821
https://twitter.com/hololyzer_bot

>>9572703
>If anything, EN2 is eating a lot of HoloJP audience
Doesn't seem to fit with the actual numbers. Pekora, Miko and the other JP big hitters are still regularly pulling 20k+ to their prime time streams. All the ENs except Gura are struggling hard even in NA primetime, breaking 10k is a rarity even for Mori.

>>9573019
Take this with grain of salt, chat interaction is very much based on stream content.

>>9572947
If anything it looks like the JPs are slowly cannibalizing the EN viewers as the ones who were introduced to Hololive through EN gradually move on to the more popular (and lets face it, more fun to watch) JPs.

>>9560325
The reason for Mito's appearance
https://youtu.be/DREnmKxdGyE?t=330

>Mio and Ayame overlapping another special stream

>>9573480
>Hikakin with Kuzuha
>now this
Hololive keeps losing

>9573642
C'mon dude, bait with something that hasn't already made the rounds.

>>9573642
Look at the date

>>9573029
>All the ENs except Gura are struggling hard even in NA primetime, breaking 10k is a rarity even for Mori.
true, but
>Gura is fina
>ina is fine (a lot debuff games last month)
>Kiara is the same
>Calli just come back
>Ame..decline a bit
>iRys is ok

>>9573845
>Gura is fina
I mean both are fishes but that's a bit too far

>>9573079
anon take your meds, graph-kun already showed the significant drop the JPs experienced this month.

>>9572947
>>9573029
New shiny toys will attract some eyes. Different chuubas will be affected differently. Some will incline. Some will recline. Some will tank. HoloJP median drops significantly on Oct-2020 and August-2021. These drops are temporary though. I'm sure September-2021 median will be higher than August-2021.

Is Subaru actually getting 8K viewers for a movie watch-along?

7,315 / 8,403

I know she just played the game so there's some lore, but that seems really high.

>>9574312
is final fantasy.
Pekora kings glaive was also pretty high

>>9574312
Japs and most of her western fans probably grow up with Advent Children so there's that as well.

>>9574312
She just completed FF7 so everyone wants to see her reactions to advent children

A better edited version of Gura singing that korean song got 217k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfzo8NqHaYE

>>9571581
>Bae hasn't really done much in terms of SC baiting for savior baiting, so unsurprising.
Nah is just she has picked the worst time slots where neither burgrs or euros can SC without mention the content on then is low.
Compare Sana today stream to her horscope and you see what im talking about. She gets jops but hasnt played anything really big for them or in a good timeslot for western viewers.
Her SC readings can get her enough as sheengages with chat and gets in some tangents.

>>9572288
>>9572367
sorry nenechi but ayame want to play at exactly in that time slot can't move it ayame demands it

I don't want to argue with shitposters on the other thread, so I'm gonna bring one here.

Is the Jun-August numbers for niji bloated due to the 3D debuts, the debut/monetization of Edengumi, Concerts/Post-talk and tournament arcs? There's a lot going for them in those 3 months than the rest of the year.

>>9574820
Yes, as you listed, they had a hell of a lot going on.

But also, it's the general consensus that Nijisanji gets better views during summer and winter break, so they capitalize on them with all these events.

>>9574820
well yes?
they will ave like a 4 3d reveals each month since they have hundred of talents.
hololive already went trough most of them except their foreign branches.

>>9574820
>There's a lot going for them in those 3 months than the rest of the year.
I thought that was common sense. The top two of Edengumi, tho, seems to be heavy hitters that will increase Niji SC revenue significantly

>>9574912
you think? outside birthdays only one keeping up is lauren and is still incosistent

Is Conqueror's Blade an anti-draw? I thought Hal was supposed to be one of the super strong dudes like Kuzuha.

>>9574820
2020
>June: ¥96,536,040
>July: ¥101,994,169
>August: ¥108,137,622

>sudden increase from 76m to 100m+

2021
>June: ¥122,306,929
>July: ¥124,979,063
>August: ¥136.465,040

>same as above 87m to 100m+

idk anon

>>9572491
Her zany wacky shiczo shit was bound to wear out like her dumb loser thing (when Haachama was just a thing people shouted when she did dumb shit like dying after the boss in Ark has already been beaten) that came before it.

>>9574944
Leos is getting good numbers too.

And yes, these are really good SC numbers for Niji, who's livers usually don't get 500$ per stream consistently. Just the event splurge.
Lain for instance.

>>9565227
Kuzuha wins because Pokemon Unite is hype. R6 and Valo can suck dick. Nene isn't as hype as Botan/Lamy too.

>>9575110
Oliver also gets pretty solid numbers even if he's on the lower side in the group

>>9573614
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTLxVuEIj8c

Don't forget Risu, it wouldn't be a big stream if she didn't overlap it

>>9575017
Yeah, I needed the full list to see this clearly to compare it to last years. This year's events for month 6 to 8 was super packed.

Here anons, to clear your minds from numbers if you need to reset
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYioGNLd5EA

Yeah, she really did sing it 101 times in the stream

>>9575328
Risu dead to me when she overlapped with Sora's 4th anniversary. I'm banking on Reine for best ID now.

The power of long streams
>Pekora just recently finished Jump King already closing in on 1M views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wunDX1zTsoE

>>9575512
>long streams
That's how Kuzuha gets his numbers. Even if he produce his own Shorts, the views wouldn't be as high as other Holos.

>>9575328
Risu or any ID or homo is a non-factor in numbers so they don't really need to be mentioned.

I'm looking at this schedule and it's all over the place.

* Main channel stream overlapping with Okayu
* Nene overlapping across the board

I know there is no slot reservation for outfit reveal but Nene should call some favors and have the girls give her some breathing space there.

>>9575570
That's a part of it, but he mostly gets his views from viewer churn in FPS games where people come and stay during a match as it gets more intense and leave when he dies or waits in lobby for a scrim.
Happens in games like Apex, Mario Kart...etc.

>>9575570
Damn, so views per VOD are affected by stream time. Would it be better if it's views per hour?

>>9575684
Usually, there is a reservation for outfit reveals.

>>9575684
There's no official slot reservation but there's a tacit agreement not to stream over another holo's outfit reveal. It's why they shortened it to 30 minutes so it doesn't take up too much real estate.
Of course that doesn't apply to Ayame.

>>9575570
That's a part of it, but he mostly gets his views from viewer churn in FPS games where people come and stay during a match as it gets more intense and leave when he dies or waits in lobby for a scrim. Every time someone checks out and checks back in a few mins later is a new view. Rinse and repeat this for 6-9 hours and you get monstrous VOD views.
Happens in games like Apex, Mario Kart...etc.

>>9575739
>views per VOD are affected by stream time.
That's pretty common sense. Longer stream = more people who could check in. There's only a small portion of viewers that stick for an entire stream, especially for a long one.

>Would it be better if it's views per hour?
Better for what? Numberfagging?
VOD views are legitimate even if they come hours after the stream like Gura's VODs.
For comparison purposes, just call someone a retard if they compare the VOD views of a 2 hour stream with a 10 hour one unironically.

>>9575739
How did you even get there if you didn't know this?

>>9575892
delete

>>9575762
>doesn't apply to Ayame.
Wut? It's Mio organizing it, on Mio's channel. What does Ayame even have do to with it?

Stop badmouthing your princess!

>>9575892
> 6 hour stream
> 42k peak
> consistently above 25k for 5 hours and a shitton of fluctuations between matches
Sounds about right.

>>9575892
It kinda proves the point being made, doesn't it? His viewership during the event was higher, the stream is long enough resulting in a high VOD.

>>9575926
>he thinks Mamamio can say no to her favorite daughter

Pekora streamed in complete dead times during JP.
Kuzuha didn't.
not rocket science.

Anyone care to try to explain this? Is the game this much of a better fit for Botan?

>>9576057
You should've posted Polka's numbers of it yesterday too. (2.9k peak)
No idea how Botan got that number. The game looks like numbers poison.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/JT2OAqysbjw

>>9576057
Botan started first so she got the lion's share of the audience

>>9576112
kek, almost as many ruskie comments as nips and EN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xul6K_hCJ58

Maybe the game is a hit in Russia and it clicks with her audience?

>>9576057
to be honest
>normal numbers for fubuki
>good numbers for botan

>>9576141
>lion's share
heh

>>9576171
Not at all

>>9576171
>game is a hit in Russia
no.
mb ppl misread it as terraria

>>9576227
considering the only major drop off point is the start of sc reading? highly doubt it

Anyone checked the numbers for shizuka solo event free-part portion on YT?

>>9576344
last I saw it was like 16k.

>>9576344
Barely passed Subaru's announcement strean peak

>>9576335
>>9576057
kek this shit higher numbers then last 2 Botan's
MC streams

>>9576374
nijisanji are nationalist, so they'll watch on niconico not youtube

>>9576418
This! Japanese NOT ONLY doesn't watch it on YouTube but they also won’t throw likes, subs and comments around like confetti and ALSO won’t view the streams live, won’t watch the VOD on YouTube and will pretend to everyone they know they never ever never watch the stuff, only to download it through a VPN with a Eastern European IP, save it on a burner phone and watch it in a sound proofed basement surrounded by a faraday cage.

That’s why that video has that relatively low viewership

>>9576537
>this much SEETHE because nijisanji love their country more than EOPs
wow

>>9543817
not going to happen, hikakin is one of the biggest celebs among zoomers in japan and big enough to be on primetime tv shows. gura will probably leave hololive in a year or two.

>>9576537
Coping much??

>>9560325
Where's Hikakin

>>9576739
She may if she streams daily like Peko and make lots of covers/originals but ofcourse that's unlikely.
But Hey! she was streaming a lot more lately so atleast we know she's motivated enough to not graduate early

>>9576739
The absolute state of nijicope

>>9576879
you mean uuumcope

>>9560325
*mogs your oshi's numbers*

>>9576931
I wish I was Ayame, streams less but earns more by stream time to earnings ratio.

>>9577168
her stream frequencies are increasing
we might see a new golden age of ayame

>>9577278
i smell dead fish

>>9576537
Seanigger hours means niji cope is in full effect
Don't worry I laughed

A little over 1 hour for VOMS debut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV_2aBUMIJA

>PREDICTIONS?
I say under 20k

>>9578356
It's overlapping Nene's new outfit reveal so

>>9578356
Oh, is this a new member? I thought it was a redebut for pikamee and the other girl.

Seems like both Miko and Marine is charging up the boxpush for that towakanata concert. Afterwards, the nene outfit reveal.

>>9567501
Project Diva IS a tough game to master, like wise you can search and watch Diva streams from fbk and Luna and see how they performed.
Bear in mind that none of the rhythm games (besides musedash) she played was on her familiar platform and older streams had input delay.
> impressed by matsuri
rumao have you even played a rhythm game

Miko already moved to talking, Marine seems to be still going at it

Is it just me or the waiting to ccv count for hololive didn't dip at all?

>>9579085
They started ahead of schedule, maybe it's related

>>9579002
Marine dropped 2k when Towa started

>>9575892

>>9579159
5 streams, median VOD : 339K

>>9579159
yeeks

>Top 10 so far according to https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/archives-ranking?date=2021-09-11
That retarded site dropped a couple of streams including Pekora's (for having crossed the midnight JST?) but the gist is that

>>9579567
so pekora is top 1 right now?

>>9579657
I don't think she beat 25k after midnight JST, I would have to check

>>9579677
21,836 / 26,019 - peko

Thought it was a slow day, seeing there's little 20ks, but there's like 3 holo streams having 15k+ right now

>>9579758
Yeah but it started before midnight JST and made it into yesterday's rank.

>>9579770
Yep, here are the ongoing streams

Someone spamming rainbows on nene's chat right now

>>9579770
>slow day,

1. Mio/Fubuki/Ayam collab
2.Nene outfit (30 min)
3. VOMS new member
*1, 2, 3 overlap
4. Pekora endurace jumping knight part 2 (last1 was 12 h)

Did I get the date wrong? Is it today or tomorrow, niji's pokemon tourney? Don't think they'll do a tourney this late at night.

>>9579826
ok guys, we ve got top 1 SC owner of this day.
ps nene's fans are insane

NijiEN seem to have had a good day today

>>9579962
so just apex?

The "Gwelu Line" is unforgiving

>>9579962
Standard NijiEN numbers no? Mid 1ks + apex collab which was Selen's usual numbers for that sorta collab + boosted Pomu

Someone check Nene's Superchat earnings shit is going wild

>>9580027
>>9580102
>apex
yes, but over all good numbers for whole niji en.(by their standards)
btw anon didnt say "exceptionally good"

>>9580152
wonder if she will beat her 3D reveal? it got 51k$

One rainbow = $685?

Mio collab moved to 10.30pm jst

>>9578356
More like under 5k

>>9580152
500k yen

>>9580324
APOLOGIZE!

>>9580286
depends on the curency and if they are droping a 100$ aka or 500$ one

ha, kanatowa jumped up almost 3k viewers when they started singing.

>>9579962
Rose...

Nene opened to 15k on waiting room.
>PREDICTIONS?
With all the overlaps I say 30k is a good number

>>9580152
Ahh...the famous "Wolf Dad" from Taiwan. He is like the biggest support of Nene, and you can see him superchat on many other JP members.

>>9580441
...at least it's above 1k.

>>9580398
>when they started singing.
It was coincidence, they caught part of the outflow from Okayu wrapping up

>>9580468
>With all the overlaps
>>9580324

>>9580468
What, it's going to hit 40k, unless kanatowa goes another full 30min, which I don't think it will. Nene already up to 21k.

>>9580493
He's still spamming reds

>>9580538
There are current overlaps. Marine wrapped up already tho, I agree with >>9580541 that it depends on Kanatowa

>>9580441
>Rose
what? those are her "good" numbers

Nene new outfit 60-70k
i never miss a prediction, trust me bro

VOMS
>5 min in
>3.5k
...

>>9580551
NT1500 is around USD50 for a red superchat in Taiwan.

>>9580570
Rose...........

Holy shit how long squareenix want this to be?