/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Yagoo saying during a talk he gives ugly girls the chance to entertain people was incredibly based so I like the guy.

>>943870
he gave Sora a chance so hes based I guess

>>943900
Wholesome

>>943900
>Saviorfag who fucks all of his employees, boy or girl it doesn't matter for his average sized cock.

Pretty based.

>>943870
The man is a saviorfag and incredibly lucky, doesn't mean I don't shit on him when he fucks up.

>shady scumbag
Kevin Mather ring any bells?

>>943870
>Shady scumbag
How so?

>>943870
He's not most perfect boss ever, but seems like girls genuinely like him. And as people mentioned - what he's doing helps girls that for various reasons cannot be part of "legit" idol scene to show world their talents. I think it's enough to call him based.

>>943870
>he actually seems like kind of a shady scumbag
That's not Nanashi.

>>943900
It's nice in the immediate sense but can also be kind of played as patronizing/condescending.

>awww that's too bad you're ugly/disabled/broken mentally and don't have a chance to ever actually make it in this world
>I'll give you this job you can do partially because I think you'd be good at it but also partially out of pity

It's more like still, an unusual amount of them seem to have some kind of past. It could also be more like it's a consequence of being a streamer and eventually opening up and being personal with your viewers, that just reveals these things. Or that sad stories just get more sympathy hence subs/memberships etc so maybe they are even asked to touch on any sad stories they have - there could be an ulterior motive aka they favor those because it helps viewer bond closer to the Holos by dragging emotions out of them. Unless you grew up in a Leave-it-to-Beaver type family most people have had various crappy parts and low points they can touch on and play up. Then again, it doesn't look like all of Yagoo's picks had a troubled past, it's not guaranteed. I mean Lamy seemed like she didn't need the job at all, Coco and Botan was doing fine on her own already etc.

So maybe, it's actually like during an interview,
>so do you have any crazy stories? interesting background stuff you are open to talk about? it'd be good bonding content so ...
>you do? you say you were so poor you had to eat grass at one point? you have some kind of heart condition? hmmm interesting

>>944299
i have no idea who that is.

>>944708
Not the right place for this but he (Mather) is a shady scumbag if you look him up. I'm just tired of people saying YAGOO is evil behind the curtains ad infinitum without any candid sources.

>>944261
I Already liked the Stars but knowing they come from an equally fucked up background as most of the girls and they are still trying their best makes me like them even more desu

Luckily they haven't give up and are still slowly growing

>>944815
Hoping that they end up hiring good clippers and they get traction through that.
Seems like their success will dictate whether the girls will get official clippers as well.

Smart and Lucky = Billion yen company

Anyway I just love that Ayame can stream whenever the f she want

>>943870
He's just a business man that took a shot on a promising trend that exploded. But he actually don't know how to run a talent group company. Which explains why most of the girls hates to talk about him.

>>943870
the ultimate saviorfag, such a saviorfag he created a company to save more fags

>>945733
based on his work history he's pretty much a tech guy, he initially founded cover to make VR games

>>943870
S+ Lucky guy

>>943870
If you're just hating on him just because reddit likes him, then you're no better than they are. In fact looking for contrarian approval might make you worse than a reddit sheep.
However, I understand being skeptical about a guy who seemingly does not have a dark side. Even if he's in the public position of CEO. And those smiley guys are the ones who's dark side you never want to see.
I'm going to hope that he's a wholesome CEO and that's why people like FBK and Sora have stuck around since before day one.

Yagoo started a company but what he really started was a large family. He's probably started caring for the cast more over time.

>>943870
You can't dig up dirt from a guy that smiles like this

>>946615
happy :D

it's pretty easy to assume everyone has a dark side if you assume that everyone has a dark side, even Sora and Fubuki.

>>945733
This.
I don't think he's a bad guy but considering how little the girls resepct him he may be a little bit lost managing this whole phenomena.

>>946679
Botan and Polka seem to be the only late-gen JP holos that have talked positively about him, though I don't know what to make of him allowing Botan to use his portrait as a shield for her 3D show

>>946822
They are both seasoned in the industry and know what an actually shitty boss looks like. They must think "damn these girls don't know this guy isn't really that bad compared to the shit I've seen" but then they play along for the memes since it's funny.
Yagoo....

>>946615
I wonder how surprised he was from receiving 1M views for his Harro Everyone video.

>>946890
The memes only make Yagoo more likeable really. Being seen as the put upon boss of a bunch of crazy girls who can laugh at himself is an infinitely better image to have than a no nonsense businessman who only cares about the bottom line.

>>946822
Polka mentioned in her membership stream that yagoo and Tanigo are different to her.
While Yagoo is fun to make fun of and beat up, she really respects Tanigo.

The fact Yagoo allows them to joke around about him or references to him means he probably takes it all well and is probably nice.

Of course he is a business man so you need to go into it with that understanding. He's a nice businessman. An example of a businessman who was a piece of shit is Steve Jobs.

>>945876
Born with luck as well as looks

Makes me wonder if Japan has some genetic problems with being such a small country. Maybe resulting in all those physical and mental problems.

>>946615
God I want to protect him so badly

>>947209
>mental problems
Covered a lot in documentaries and Japanese news because of work stress and aging population as a result of high work expectations and other factors.

Something I always found funny is that the EN crew seems to think positivity of yagoo, making jokes here (mostly ame if not mistaken tho) and there while the JP crew rarely even says his name

>>948525
This. And every guest on Coco's meme review say he's gross. The Yagoo fascination is 100% a kaigai thing

>>948671
>every guest on Coco's meme review say he's gross.
I think the context here is different though, when they said gross I don't think they mean him directly, but rather to the way his face is plastered on the meme.

>>949096
yes, could be viewed as a form of disrespect to them.

I 100% believe the rrat that Sora is his daughter, which makes me like him even more. Imagine starting an multi-million dollar business so your daughter can live out her idol dream.

>>951085
That would be approximately the most adorable thing I've ever heard and would make Yagoo the most based man in history.

>>949096
I always wondered if the yagoo punchingbag that coco keeps in her room was meant as a joke or was a passive aggressive action

He seems like a smart guy. I kinda wish Cover was a public company so I could buy the stock.

>>951085
I actually thought the guy was like mid twenties or 30s. Would almost ship with a-chan

I don't know anything about the dude and to be honest I've got a healthy natural suspicion of wealthy individuals in the entertainment industry, especially the men

The whole business side of Hololive is practically unknown and virtually invisible to us english-speakers, and that's something I keep in mind whenever I see memes about this dude.

>>951367
Guy is in his mid 30s and is married with kids if I remember correctly

>>951395
Sorry meant mid 40s.

>>951389
He's not really an entertainment industry guy, he's worked in tech all his life and started Cover as a tech company for VR software.

>>951085
if anything i thought polka was his daughter from their interactions pre debut.

>he fucked your oshi

>>946155
This, I think his style of leadership has allowed the girls to do a lot of things they've wanted to some have said they've already fulfilled their dreams. COVER as a whole is sitll somewhat incompetent but considering they've made it this long and this far with their approach shows their ability to learn and grown at a stupid fast level. People forget that they were literally just a tech company testing out AR apps until they decides to try the virtual entertainer projects.

He's probably a nice guy who cares about his talent but japanese businessmen will always be fags no matter who

Matsuri said he likes Comic Kairakuten.

I don't know why some people think the JP girls don't like him; it seems to be the opposite. Just because they make jokes about him doesn't mean they dislike him, they do it amicably. Realistically he's probably a nice guy who has no fucking clue what he's doing when it comes to managing the company.

>>953276
Like we can trust anything that menhra says but I believe it

>>944687
>an unusual amount of them seem to have some kind of past
Doesn't everyone?

>>953311
Realistically, I don't think anyone can direct Hololive well at all, too many fronts to COVER at multiple hours, of course things derail a little after a while.

>>948525
>JP crew rarely even says his name
Polka leaned heavily in the beginning and Haachama was the one with bright idea to build his likeness all over Minecraft. Honestly, Yagoo jokes are a crutch a holo can lean on when they need to get their shit sorted.

>>944687
>It's more like still, an unusual amount of them seem to have some kind of past.
It's almost as if the kind of people who would throw their identity away aren't quite right i nthe head, hell just look at this website

>>953327
Nobody willing to live a large portion of their life on a stage is completely well adjusted and normal.

>>953317
It came up when Matsuri was talking about how she reads LO. Some viewer asked her if Yagoo was also a fan of LO, and she claimed that he was all about Kairakuten.
>>953311
>Realistically he's probably a nice guy who has no fucking clue what he's doing when it comes to managing the company.
Really? I think it's the exact opposite: his generally decent treatment of his employees and his efforts to build Hololive as a brand, as opposed to other approaches that might yield more immediate profits but have detrimental impacts upon the future of the company ala upd8 or Brave Group, show that he has a vision of what he wants the company to be and confidence that he can make that vision a reality. His actions suggest that he isn't one of those guys who founds a company in an emergent industry with the ultimate goal of having it become modestly successful enough to sell it to a conglomerate.

>>953667
>he isn't one of those guys who founds a company in an emergent industry with the ultimate goal of having it become modestly successful enough to sell it to a conglomerate.
I think that he does that before making VR company

>>953667
I would say that he's trying his best, but he never expected Cover to become mainly Vtuber company. Their main focus always was VR entertainment and that what YAGOO should be better at.

>>943870
>Ignored Mel when she talked about her stalker
>Only gave a damn when she lawyered up
He's scum.

>>943870
Shut your bitch mouth OP
Yagoo is the only True and Pure idol on the holo roster

>>954758
Prease andastaando, smaru company

>>954758
The problem was that she didn't take it to management because, of course, her stalker was her manager. The company only found out what was going on when she sensibly lawyered up.
We can't really criticise them if they didn't know.

>>948525
Yagoo is popular overseas as a meme. JP's don't meme as hard as us dirty foreigners.

>>944261
This is a very powerful rrat. I like it a lot. I'll be saving this.

>>943870
More importantly, which holowhore he enjoys fucking in the ass most often? My money is on Noel, Coco and Marine.

>>943870
>>943900
ngl he kinda based

>>954758
Didnt even police refused to help her? What else can she do except consult a lawyer at that point?

>>955420
You just KNOW he gave Coco an extra rough hatefuck while he was angry about the headache she caused with China

>>954898
2chan have a thread for him in Hololive board anon

>>943870
>>944261
>>943900
>Yagoo saying during a talk he gives ugly girls the chance to entertain people was incredibly based so I like the guy.
so katawa but idols instead?

>>955420
>>955469
Matsuri ch.

>>943870
I'm not sure how he is as a person, but Yagoo jokes are completely unfunny and only 12 year olds and people on the spectrum keep making them.

>>955469
Meds
This guy is CEO of a tech start up
If you think Marine is married to her job, yagoo probably works 2 times the hours and his performance is based on metrics we don't have the data to compute

>>943870
Reddit is only ironically obsessed with him
they call him best girl and an idol as a joke...

>>955510
None of the hololive running gags are funny, they're all drawn out to the extreme and are rarely used in an interesting way

>>955612
Yeah I'm surprised people can just keep making the same jokes over and over again and keep finding them funny. And it's completely Pavlovian too. It's all just "see X make joke Y." One of them doing something idol like? "Yagoo would be proud." One of them saying something lewd? "BOTTOM LEFT LOL!" There's no wit or cleverness to them

>>946615
YAGOO LOVE
https://youtu.be/ULpJuTPnIok

>>943870
He's an incompetent manipulative guy that blackmail all the talents to make him look good. bastard.

>>944687
It really wasn't that patronizing or rude. Yagoo was explaining his business model to what I think were potential investors and brought up that there's plenty of girls who are talented or funny enough but don't meet the very high idol industry standards for attractiveness. The point of the remark was to demonstrate that there's a large pool of talent to tap into.

>>944261
>mentions that a big voice of his is just watching overseas cooking and military videos on YT since he's poor as shit

>>955471
What goes on it it?
Lewd fanfic?

>>955679
I would say its the new people that keep using the jokes since they are new to them, as they keep watching they get boring for them eventually but new people come and use the same joke again.

pretend that you hang out and work with yagoo using this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RywY1WbpbTs

>>955679
like the pepeloni and rrat's posted here constantly?

>>943870
yakuza frontman

>>955679
Could be new people, could be people who aren't there for every stream so its still fresh to them, etc.

>>955454
Police in Japan is known for being notoriously useless.
As a long as a stalker is just "stalking you", (without actually interacting with you in any way or harassing / attacking you I mean), then they won't do shit.

Okay, real talk. Which Holos has he sexed?

>>943870
What do you mean he is hilarious
How can you not like him when he wants to make an idol company
Making your employees work themselves into health issues and mental breakdowns is irrelevant
Just keep making meme's about how wacky hololive is and not like the generic idea of what an idol company it is

>>943870
I like him but I refuse to call mr Tanigo-san as Y***o

>>956697
Well, then at that point I guess consulting a lawyer is really the only thing left she can do. Japanese termination law is uptight as hell too so firing him is not gonna be easy especially if he is careful to keep the harassment non physical.

>>944687
>It's more like still, an unusual amount of them seem to have some kind of past.
Dude, do you realise what you're watching? VTubers aren't just streamers, who are 95% terminally online weirdos to begin with, they're streamers who are big fucking anime otaku and therefore the anime avatar. It's a self-selecting population of outcasts, autists, chronically ill, and generally unhappy people.

>>957117
>Yagoo shows up.
>Reassigns him to Holostars.
>Hands him a broom for additional janitorial assignments that last four extra hours over his workload.
>Quits on his own.

>>956727
All of them

>>957261
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.

>>947350
sage-chan...

>>953621
Wouldn't the "mask" of the anime avatar mean they're more normal than the average artist who puts their real face and life in the stage, in that case?

>>951548
He could have 2 daughters who knows

>>943870
If someone is the head of an entertainment agency I just assume they're shady as fuck and have Yakuza dealings. Even with this vtuber shit.

Even if Cover was a black company or YAGOO was actually a shitty boss. I don't really have anything to support this idea or that I'm particularly in strong support, but I think giving him motivation to maintain his positive image and being in the good graces of the public actually helps keep him in check sort of. I think YAGOO worship is a bit too far and cringe though.

>>959542
Yeah but the worship is definitely not started but EOPs though. Back when Hoshikawa got harassed with akasupas pre 3D debut the first one she @ for 'help' is YAGOO, Keirin who is a shitposter used YAGOO in one of his shitpost and Botan with that YAGOO shield.

>>956727
Hololive was basically invented so Sora, who wanted to be an idol but isnt very attractive, could try to be an idol. She's the only one he might have sexed.

lucky guy and got good eyes from choosing talents, but somewhat bad on decision making stuff if he's one man one company then it wont be bad but some mistakes his company made make me lost some trust on him

>>943870
Unlike other companies that decided to suck china's cock, he decided to get the fuck out. I respect him for that.

>>959700
That was actually a pretty based decision. He's definitely alright in my book now that you bring that up

>>959700
Yea like it's hard choosing between the ccp and mostly mentally sound westerners and nips

>>959998
It's a myth that China as a whole is bad desu. Shenzhen is kinda nice. Plus if you're a foreigner living there it's not hard to find work. But yeah fuck the CCP though (just keep it to yourself when you're there).

>>959998
A lot of businesses do for the money though.

yagoo has been celebrating orgies with your oshis, that's how it works in the idol business

>>943900
we need more saviourfags like him. without him giving them opportunity these broken girls would never have smiled again

>>960194
Long-term money tho, he already working with a bunch of schizo, he know when to smooth thing and when to quit it

>>946615
Holy fuck I want to see him drunk

>>946615
Is there a picture of him looking angry

>>944448
he underpays his "idol" employees

>>954758
Japanese company please understand, sexual harassment is regular thing there

whaT IS WITH YOU FAGGOTS WANTING YAGOO TO HAVE SEX WITH EVERYONE

>>960376
So is 99% of entertainment companies

>>943900
if the roommate leaks are accurate, most of them look decent tho.

>>960427
Probably ugly for nip idol standard
Festival roomate does be cute tho

>>960406
people watched perfect blue and now think that all Japanese entertainment industry is like that

>>960427
if you are aiming to be a real and successful idol "decent" isn't enough

>>959473
He was the head of a tech startup though, the guy just wanted to make VR ping pong games and stumbled into leading a huge multinational entertainment agency almost by accident

>>960460
Or they heard general idol horror stories and use them for cover. The problem is that it's hard to draw parallels with cover because they just stumbled themselves into success. Unlike established idol agencies with set expectations, salaries, training etc., it more accidentally hit gold. As others said, he's more a tech guy than a businessman. So I think it's bad to assume they put as much pressure on the girls as other agencies for example. They're also naturally more inexperienced.

Makes me wonder what happens if there's a sex scandal among the girls. Both on the side of fans as well as cover. Kinda have to imagine Haachama shaving her head aka using a hairless model to do an apology stream. Will never happen, but I wanna see her do a bald stream anyway.

>>956032
Those at least require a bit of timing since pepe isn't mentioned that often.

Threads where it's just the header of the Haachama thread don't count, that's just a header.

>>960257
Nah, they didn't give a shit that most of their chinese fanbase were a bunch of nationalist until it blew in their faces, money is money

>>960376
proof

>>955679
hownew.ru
the hatred for reddit runs deep in this place precisely because the fucking moment it appeared they ruined the definition of meme

>>959660
I doubt it was entirely his fault, It seem Cover have a co-founder and no one dare to mess with him.

>>960427
Almost all of them are at leas in their 20s and thus "too old" for the idol industry, also
>>960479

>>944261
Fine, you convinced me to sub to Aruran and Shien.

>>961773
Here, incase you need to put faces to the various department you want to blame when some project don't get funding approval, tech messes up or just faces for your ntr/powerhara fantasies. Straight from cover's about page.

According to their hiring profile on a website that is updated Cover Corp. is stated as only having 111 employees, in contrast with Ichikara's 150 employees so this data seems unreliable for companies their size. Unless a huge portion of their company is outsourced or listed under subcompanies.

>>943870
Fuck off Nijinigger

>>962148
They had about 30 at the start of 2020, so it's really a huge expansion effort for them.

>>944261
>that first video
Christ she was anorexic too?

>>944261
>he got a C&D from Cover after he advertised himself as Kaoru in a Beyblade tourney after he graduated
no fucking way

>>961625
That the quit part anon, gotta milk them as long as possible and drop it when they start demanding instead of comsuming

>>962711
God bless turbo-capitalism

>>962197
Then for the love of God Yagoo please digest the fat meal they took, I know it takes time to work out the kinks since they suddenly have 4x newfags but I'm willing as long as it doesn't fuck up the girls in anyway and 30% of those better be permissions related.

>>944261
I already love most of the Star boys, this just makes me want to try my best to be a clipper for some of them.

>>960479
they look better than real idols to be honest

>>956727
All of the Holostars

>>960406
because I want Yagoo to have sex with me, duh

>>964606
they really don't, but okay

>>951389
He's more of a tech autist than an entertainment guy.

>>969914
Sorry sis, you ain't getting any. Good luck with your onlyfans feet pics.

>>964606
Don't forget about age, you don't really want to recruit a 30 years old into your idol agency.

>>973918
I would say about half of them look idol attractive just that most are outside typical age range of normal idols.

>>962757
I imagine they are the new EN auditions, that explosive growth just happened in the worst possible year with most of the staff working from home, pissing off the entire nation of china, and the copyright apocalypse

>>943870
Zhang pls

>>956697
>Police in Japan is known for being notoriously useless.
Nah it's the same in every country, people online are way too harsh with japanese police, rape victims are never ever taken seriously wherever you live

>>960479
What do you mean? Take AKB48 for example. Most of them are pretty average looking girls.

>>973918
Not that guy but some of the roommates are really cute. Like if I was given the choice between going on a date with Sayumi Michishige (in her prime) and Miko and was asked to make my choice on the basis of appearance alone, I would still pick Miko.
>>979305
>30 years old
>idol agency
Protip: Even 20 years old is too old if you're trying to become an idol. In the absolute best case scenario for an aspiring idol, you have 10-11 years between 15 and 25 before you get aged out of the job. Even the ones who become popular enough to be called superstars aren't exempt from this axiom, and obviously the vast majority of agency idols don't even make it to four years much less 10.

>>943900
Link?

>>982695
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKf89qar7cI

Probably talking about this video.

>>982292
>Most of them are pretty average looking girls.
Your opinion of what's "average" is skewed by your perspectives on Japanese women being formed by looking at idols and JAV actresses, all of whom work in professions where being attractive is a requirement for participation. You see this same misperception among some foreigners to America whose perspectives on what the average American looks like having come from watching movies--yes, this is a real thing.
With that in mind, if you want to see what the actual average for Japanese girls is like, go look at the Japanese high school threads in the /jp/ archives. ...You probably won't like what you see.

isn't Yagoo's specialty in 3d movement tracking technology?

pretty sure Cover (and Hololive) started out primarily as a tech demo company for video games to show off the use of their proprietary tracking software using iPhone Face ID technology. Sora was really supposed to be nothing more than a Kizuna AI-esque demo of the potential of their tracking software until Yagoo (back then, still known as Tanigoo), found out that the virtual idol thing was more popular than he'd expected, which is where Hololive as an idol company started.

>>982812
Not really, I know what the typical Japanese person looks like. My statement still stands. A lot of idols and JAV actresses range from pretty average to ugly with only a small percentage being actually attractive/beautiful.

>>982987
Hololive originally started as an AR app for streaming virtual concerts (hence Holo Live), sora was supposed to be the technology demonstrator, that's why she's an idol

Knowing the dumb shit hololive idols have leaked in the past, we all know that if Yagoo was actually a shit person AT LEAST one of the menhera idols would have whistleblowed / ratted him out.

The fact that this hasn't happened yet is nothing short of a miracle

>>983243
i see, thanks for the clarification, anon. must have gotten my info mixed up somewhere.

>>983236
>My statement still stands. A lot of idols and JAV actresses range from pretty average to ugly
You should look up what the word average means. The majority of idols and JAV actresses are by definition not average in appearance.

>>956727
Miyabi

>>959624
hoshikawa?

>>956032
rrat is just one of those things that eventually became board culture like "based" or other words. I've even started to see people outside of /vt/ use rrat when referring to theories about comics or shows or whatever and it'll probably eventually make its way outside of the site.

Nobody really does the full "ogey rrat" in the original way anymore and even ogey on its own has faded. rrat is a different beast entirely since it has an actual use outside of a meme context.

>>983752
man... I only have a vague recollection of how am I supposed to use ogey rrat. Not that it matters much now* since ogeyrrat spam was banned months ago

>>983708
Nijisanji blonde

>>946679
The fact they can make fun of him and be rude is actually a huge sign they respect him. Being able to speak casually to and about your boss is a giant thing in terms of respect in japan

>>959624
Pochi, in her minecraft server, also named a zombie Yagoo and are building a house for him. Even those outside of holo like to joke about Yagoo.

>>983840
ogey rrat was originally just a meme that didn't mean anything beyond people finding it funny. Then the increasingly warped Pekos were added. Then it got split into the dismissive "ogey" and "rrat" becoming short for narrative.

>>983928
>>984088
I think him starting off as just a tech guy really helped ground him to reality.
You never hear the talents ever talk about any of the other executives at the company, just Yagoo.

>>982617
Real life lolita with a cute voice, too elite.

>>982617
>Protip: Even 20 years old is too old if you're trying to become an idol. In the absolute best case scenario for an aspiring idol, you have 10-11 years between 15 and 25 before you get aged out of the job. Even the ones who become popular enough to be called superstars aren't exempt from this axiom, and obviously the vast majority of agency idols don't even make it to four years much less 10.
t. EOP who doesn't know what they're talking about

>>959700
This.

Typical Japanese, finds talent, tells them what to do, and then does fuck all to help them until it's for PR lol

>>956727
The Chicken

>>982812
>go look at the Japanese high school threads in the /jp/ archives
How do you look for those threads? since it's JP i doubt it has a title in romanji

>>944687
>people that make a living streaming as anime avatars have a past
no shit

>>944687
>I mean Lamy seemed like she didn't need the job at all, Coco and Botan was doing fine on her own already etc.
Ina seems to be doing really fine by herself too, I mean she isn’t even interested in SCs. I wouldn’t be surprised if she has another source of income with her drawing skills.

>>990383
>I wouldn’t be surprised if she has another source of income with her drawing skills.
She is

>>983928
>The fact they can make fun of him and be rude is actually a huge sign they respect him
exactly, it unironically shows the age of the posters when they think "banter with boss" is a bad thing & a sign of disrespect

>>983928
this