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HoloMyth or HoloCouncil, which is better?

>> No.9309862

>>9309829
Council by a long shot

>> No.9309876

first post in the fandom war thread

>> No.9309887

>>9309829
doing ur mom

>> No.9309918

>>9309876
Anon, I...

>> No.9309960

>>9309829
Myth has Ina and Amelia
Council has Sana and Kronii
they're equal to me

>> No.9309963

>>9309829
Myth by a long shot

>> No.9309980

Well Council has Sana so if you want a subjective answer I'm going with the gen with the busty choccy Aussie waifu with the fat arse in a halterneck top leotard.

>> No.9310000

>>9309829
Fucking iPhone posters are still shitty tribalists

>> No.9310269

>>9309862
FPWP

>> No.9310390
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>>9309829
They're both good in their own ways.

>> No.9310416

>>9309829
Kiara singlehandedly RUINS Holomyth, so I would go with Council.

>> No.9310464

>>9310390
Godly respect right here.

>> No.9310556

>>9310416
Rent free egg schizo

>> No.9310568

replace Kiara with Kronii and it's easily Gen1, but Kiara being there is a massive debuff

>> No.9310596
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Gura can solo

>> No.9310633

>>9310596
gura can solo deez nuts

>> No.9310635

>>9309829
All of council is awful but myth has Kiara so it evens out

>> No.9310693

>>9309829
Council don't have T*kaM*ri so they win by default

>> No.9310695

>>9310390
>NPC tier neutered response
>Commushit meme for no reason
You subhumans are a living joke

>> No.9310704

>>9309829
Gura > Ina > Council > Ame > Kiara > Mori

>> No.9310884

I like Kiara, she's like that weird glue that's kinda smelly and sticky but it kinda holds everything together. Also that metaphor just gave me a boner.

>> No.9310976

>>9309829
Myth. but council is still extremely new. Only coucil member I really, really like so far is Sana followed by Fauna. Kronii's gotta figure out her relationship with chat, and Baelz and Mumei are boring outside of collab. On the other hand I like everyone in Myth, even if I'll prioritize Sana over Mori, Ina or Gura.

I will say it's nice they have decent chemistry in collabs though - Myth took 9 months to not be an awkward mess, and Ame is still super silent when there's more than 2 other people present.

>> No.9311056

>>9310633
*Cums on you*

>> No.9311077

The one who doesn't have Kiara

>> No.9311087
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>>9310695
Anon...

>> No.9311176

>>9309829
theyre both great, I'll have sex with them all

>> No.9311210 [DELETED] 

>>9309829
Ame is literally the only good member in en 1 everyone else is a schizo like kiara or a numberfag like gura

>> No.9311293
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>>9309829
They're all in the same team. But if it was a contest, Council loses hard, through no fault of their own but because of funny shark

>> No.9311328

Is discord raiding us right now? Why is there so much Kiara hate

>> No.9311382

>>9309829
Myth has eceleb chasers
Council has artists that dont draw or draw in thier normal style

>> No.9311484

>>9309829
Myth because my oshi is there.

>> No.9311537

Gura mogs all of Council, but the rest of Myth trades blows with Council. I'd say Myth only wins because of Gura.

>> No.9311668 [DELETED] 

>>9311328
>Kiara gets legit criticisms for why she is the worst member in hololive

Muh discord raid

>> No.9311908

I'm going to cop-out and say I like both for equally different reasons. Sana fulfills a niche for me, but each girl has their own niche to fulfill.

>> No.9312035

>>9309829
Only thing good about Gen1, is Gura.
Only thing bad about Gen2, is Mumei.
Conclusion: Gen2 is better overall by having a better selection.

>> No.9312054

>>9311328
>Why is there so much Kiara hate
Is this your first day here?

>> No.9312248

>Myth has a forced yuri, a lot of introverts and a holo with bot subs.

>Council has a lot of entretainers, good chemistry, they don't rely on one person to interact to JOP and a kromedian.

Go figures

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>>9309829
Unfair match, Council needs more XP & badges before they can challenge the Elite 4 and the current Champion.

>> No.9312359

>>9309829
>it's the same thread we have 3 times a day

>> No.9312373

>>9312035
I don't understand how you could love Gura but hate Mumei, Mumei is literally debut Gura

>> No.9312415

>>9312264
"I've got a level 100 charazard and a level 4 caterpie"

>> No.9312449

>>9312373
Loli vs not loli

>> No.9312549

>>9309829
Maybe develop your opinion dude.

>> No.9312574

Well council doesn’t have Neurotic Narcissistic Kiara and never-plays-video-games-and-fills-schedule-with-talking-streams Mori so…. Right off the bat it’s 3 v 5.

>> No.9312627

>>9312574
..and Council still gets stomped

>> No.9312659

both suck dick.

now JP gen 3, that's a gen.

>> No.9312683

>>9309829
I have subbed and membered all 5 of holoMyth. I haven't even subbed to any of holoCouncil. Might sub to one or two, but that's to be decided.

>> No.9312687

>>9309829
You're asking this in a board full of "OLD GOOD NEW BAD"fags.

Serious answer: Council is doing better at this point relative to their debut. I'd partially attribute this to having learned some lessons from Myth's debut, but also they are going for an organic approach in developing their dynamics A.K.A. without day 1 teetee like Takamori.

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>> No.9312818 [DELETED] 

>>9312687
Agree completely. EN gen 1 was a success, but there were issues. EN gen 2 (And IRyS) all have long resumes and have knocked these two weeks out of the park.

To be honest I don’t think Kiara or Calli would get hired if they were applying to Hololive today.

>> No.9312890

>>9311668
>>Kiara gets legit criticisms for why she is the worst member in hololive
Such as?

>> No.9313021

Maybe ask this question in a few months.
Took a bit for the EN1 girls to find their stride.

>> No.9313024

>>9309829
Gura > Council > Myth

>> No.9313124 [DELETED] 

>>9312890
1. She is emotionally unstable. Every single stream is a roller coaster through extreme emotions. She laughing then she’s crying then she’s screaming at chat then she is freaking out. It’s uncomfortable to watch her streams.
2. She’s selfish. Everything is about her and if SHE is having fun. Fuck chat, fuck who she’s collabing with. She’s losing in Mario Party? She’s going to be a whiner, bitchy 4-year old and ruin the game for everyone else.
3. She loves showing off her perfect Japanese and squeezing into any collab with the JP girls possible. But Never helps her ge mates to collab as a bridge when she’s proved she can easily do it. She doesn’t want to share the spotlight.
4. When Gen 2 was debuting, she went on a rant about how hard Hololive is and how new people have no idea and should just give up. Once again showing she was threatened and jealous.
5. She’s just a bitch. Really. She’s mean. She was probably a bully in hig school.

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>>9310416
>>9310568
>>9310635
>>9311077
>>9311668
>>9312574

rent free

>> No.9313198

>>9312687
Completely disagree. I think Council is way behind where they should be given the boost they're getting from EN1 and Hololive itself. Judging from their current trajectory they'll settle in and be around the same level as HoloJP Gen 5. Council has been incredibly mediocre so far. Compared to other talents coming out at the same time from other companies, Council is full of B-tier talents. We can assume Hololive didn't look very deep in the existing talent pool.

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>>9313124
Didn't read. Watch streams. Stream sparks

>> No.9313254

Ina is the only good member of Gen 1
Sana is the only good member of Gen 2
Artist friends reign supreme!

>> No.9313274

>>9313124
So you don't watch streams are just spouting ancient orcschizo rrats.

>> No.9313277

>>9309829
The one with more cunny

>> No.9313303
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9313303

let them fight

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>>9313124
Watch streams schizo.

>> No.9313320

>>9313124
You expect me to read all that shit? Stupid egg

>> No.9313348

>>9309829
Myth. Council was overhyped.

>> No.9313386

Council is such a direct downgrade from Myth it's not even funny
Talentless and all have boyfriends, what's the point of them?

>> No.9313439

>>9313386
they have Space and Time

>> No.9313485

>>9313207
>>9313274
>>9313311
>YoU cLeArLy HaVeN't WaTcHeD hEr StReAmS

The most typical cope responses as expected from KFP fags.

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>>9313485
Thats because what you spouted is literally not true if you watched at least ONE of her streams also
>deleted
My fucking sides.

>> No.9313698

>>9313485
Nice try kfpfag

>> No.9313738

>>9313303
>Mumei vs Kiara and Fauna vs Mori
>not Mumei vs Mori and Fauna vs Kiara

It should be autist vs autist and slut vs slut

>> No.9313844

gen 2
holo learned a lot about vetting english speakers after the first batch

>> No.9313909

>>9313439
Kiara is a Phoenix

>> No.9313974

>>9309829
Kronii is the only one I like so gen 2 by default

>> No.9314026

>>9309829
https://files.catbox.moe/om3tcw.webm

>> No.9314069

>>9313738
But mori is a slut and chicken is an autist

>> No.9314100

>>9312373
>I don't understand how you could love Gura but hate Mumei, Mumei is literally debut Gura
Gura can sing better, is more talkative, funnier, less boring, engages chat, and is overall a better streamer than Owl. Mumei survives mostly off design.

>> No.9314142 [DELETED] 

>>9314100
Ok chumpedo

>> No.9314203

>>9314142
But I like Gen2 more than Gen1: >>9312035

>> No.9314207

I get that Council are on good terms with eachother and have formed friendships, but I don't feel the warm fuzzies I get from Myth collabs. Since en2 is full of much more functional human beings, the relationships between en1 were much harder fought and are therefor deeper. Autists/loners form strong bonds when they finally manage to form them.

>> No.9314272

>>9314100
Unpopular opinion I think. Mumei has quickly become well loved. She is what people thought Gura was going to be before she degraded into meme lord.

>> No.9314314

>>9314100
you could just write that Gura is loli, and Mumei is not, why embellish reality.

>> No.9314383

>>9309829
Council is full of vanilla-tier chuubas that no one would notice if they weren't Holo

>> No.9314425

>>9314272
I’m not saying others won’t like Mumei, only that I personally don’t view her as a good enough streamer. I do understand that people can become attached to her, but I just don’t think it’s justifiable. She made cute sounds in good design is not enough for me.

>> No.9314482

>>9310704
This but swap Ina and Ame

>> No.9314531

>>9309829
Meh, i'm not going to judge them until their first anniversary

>> No.9314544

>>9309829
Council has no weak links but Myth has higher highs right now.

>> No.9314555

>>9309829
I watch more council streams than myth streams, so council wins

>> No.9314584

>>9313124
This.

>> No.9314602

>>9311328
Go back to /hlgg/ if you want a kfp hugbox

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>>9310695
>You have to have radical opinions, even if they're wrong
I will not become an Insect. Insects only understand extremes, black and white. Insects live in a world without nuance. YOU are a subhuman insect. Leave the civilized world and never come back.

>> No.9314777

>>9314602
>he thinks /hlgg/ is a kfp safe space
NGMI

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>>9309829
I prefer Myth by a longshot. I watched every council debut, and then the full council collab, the day after I watched the Myth collab where Mori's laptop failed and they had to call off the TTRPG. Kino asf. It became one of my favorite streams because of their chemistry together. That's when I knew: council is cool, Kronii's great, but there's no replacing Myth. I love my Holomyth girls.
That said, comparisons at this point are pretty meaningless desu, Myth has way more experience. It's only fair to give Council time to catch up.

>> No.9315591

>>9313738
Fauna vs Mori is Life vs Death. That's probably the most fitting matchup

>> No.9315715

>>9313303
>not sana vs mori in a contest of who can be the niggerest

>> No.9315742

>>9312687
>You're asking this in a board full of "OLD GOOD NEW BAD"fags.
Objectively false, otherwise JPs would get discussed way more

>> No.9315778

>>9309829
It's hard, Myth does have some strong high spec talents ;
>Ina
A professional with insane speed who can teach and raise a cult, solid work ethics
>Mori
Can both mix, compose, draw and animate, a free mind with her own niche, hard to replicate
>Gura
Very nice voice and singing, even if it's her only strong point she's very good on that

Then Council has
- Sana : similar to Ina skills but for backgrounds, very solid
- Kronii : her main skill is the control of her voice, she's very good at it
- Baelz : good singing energy but not quite there yet

I'd say Myth is a bit ahead but it's probably due to people like mori or gura being one of a kind and hard to replicate

>> No.9315855

>>9310695
Go outside

>> No.9315889

>>9309829
Myth has very talented and unique chuubas like Mori and the one and only shark that will probably never be topped. It's hard to come after that.
Council is more "all around", they don't have the huge weakness of Myth like Ame who literally has 0 artistic ability, but their 2 best Kronii and Sana don't shine as hard as Mori and Gura. Basically both have a similar average quality but gen2 doesn't have the big outliers of Gura and Mori.

>> No.9316021

>>9315778
Myth has these two awful members, Mori and Kiara.
I admit that Mori is talented, I just really don't like her.

Council has these two deadweight members, Sana and Baelz.
Mumei serves a purpose I guess, but I can't fathom what it is.

>> No.9316034

Myth, easily. It's not even close.

>> No.9316269

>gura
>vs
>nobody
myth 100%

>> No.9316356

>>9309829
Council has 2 chuubas the kind you can find hundreds of anywhere with nothing special to them in Fauna and Mumei. Rrat felt like that at first but seems to have the potential to change. It's still too much and the rest doesn't have enough to counterbalance that, meanwhile Myth has 4 chuubas very unique and skilled with their dedicated successful niche aside from Ame who is just yet another variety gamer
So 1 weak point vs 2.5, Myth wins

>> No.9316411

>>9313303
I want more Hololive battle shonen manga.

>> No.9316503

>Mumei is just there
>when she's a great singer and artist
Huh?

>> No.9316505
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HoloMeth

>> No.9316650

>>9316503
She needs to prove herself. We haven't seen enough. She's currently getting eclipsed by Myth members who do both better

>> No.9317141

>>9316503
All of HoloMyth minus Ame sings better than her, and Ina and Mori both draw better than her, she doesn't have much that stands out

>> No.9317160

>>9316650
I'm not claiming she's better than myth. I'm just saying it's crazy to think she brings nothing to the table and is just there to be cute when she has shown to be a great artist (although her art leans to a more realistic style rather than anime-styled) and a great singer from her superchat reading today.

>> No.9317240

>>9309829
neither, NijisanjiEN is going to take over in 3 months, if and when management starts investing more into there Chubbas

>> No.9317297

>>9316503
1. She’s not a good singer at all. Just because they all like to sing, doesn’t mean they’re all good at it.
2. Ina and Sana are better in art.
What does Mumei have? Cute design.

>> No.9317685

>>9309829
The choice is clear. Myth. Each vtuber has a distinct, memorable, and charismatic personality associated with, in three of the cases, a well matched model.
>The undisputed worst, Kiara, still has a devoted fanbase and contributes to the group by providing needed conflict and friction.
>The nigger of Nippon brings in crossover fans from some weird wiggaboo subculture.
>Ina has her offbeat chill dorky gook ambiance.
>The twitch ethot is an innovative streamer that generates new ideas.
>Gawr Gura. No more needs to be said.

Contrast to Council and its forgettable characters.
>Sexy brown Australian is the only one with charisma and an appealing model.
>A rat loli?
>The clock one has big tits, I guess.

>> No.9317782

>>9317297
She fills a unique niche of a cute and soft autistic trad girl who went to art school.

>> No.9317902

HoloMyth is the Kawata Shoujo of vtubing
Really fucking subpar but tasteless idiots love it anyway because it was their gateway to the medium because they're too stupid for Japanese content

>> No.9317946

>>9317685
>>9317902
This

>> No.9317999

>>9314207
Give 'em 6 months. Early Myth collabs were awkward too.

>> No.9318040

>>9317999
current Myth collabs are still awkward

>> No.9318074 [DELETED] 

>>9318040
En was a mistake

>> No.9318148

>>9318074
NijiEN is good, Council is probably going to be better than Myth

>> No.9318452

>>9318148
better in what?
>parasocial nigs that will use only the voice of council to feel the void in their mind through their weird sc LMAO

>> No.9318472

>>9318452
Being entertaining streamers

>> No.9318573

>>9318472
ill wait maybe 1-2 months and watch them again, right now i only see spam of memes, babe" copes and twitch culture in chat

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>>9309829
IRyS is better than all of them combined

>> No.9319259

Council is more entertaining to watch because the members are new and learning about them is fun. I already know what to expect with Myth

>> No.9319290

>>9309829
>HoloCouncil
Who?

>> No.9319497

>nigger noise chimp incapable of basic human interactions
>bottom barrel twitch streamer relies entirely on "streaming" gimmicks to stay relevent
>Trailertrash pedobait, sucks at everything but activates the pity neurons so hoovers up the viewership the others failed to attain
>literally who painting gook idk what else to put here, i think her viewers all just put her on a second monitor
>Kiara

The bar was set low enough that every e-thot that came out of the woodworks could compete.
It doesn't help that they all are horribly miscast to their characters, which they dumped in weeks.

Council debut so far has surpassed the trashfire that was Myth's debuts so they already have won out in quality.

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why cant they all just be frens?

>> No.9323420

>>9319497
just because u can spam babe* copes in their chat and they dont mind it, proves their better
>whores + gold digging voice is worse than the myth LMAO seethe

>> No.9323547

>>9312574
>never-plays-video-games-and-fills-schedule-with-talking-streams
Anon, that arc ended long time ago. And i though people agreed that Mori's best streams have always been non-video game ones.

>> No.9323669

>>9323547
i actually only enjoy her video game streams solely because deep down she realizes she is not good at everything she does and humbles herself which is really cute

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>>9319497

>> No.9323710

Gura powerlevel is too high right now

>> No.9323735

>>9312574
Watching most people play video games is fucking boring, talking is interesting

>> No.9323824

>>9312574
>Neurotic Narcissistic Kiara
Do people really think this?

>> No.9323855

>>9317902
>Thing: >:(
>Thing (japanese): <:O

>> No.9324390

>>9313303
Lorewise, who would win?

>> No.9324844

Myth plays to their strengths and have their established schticks

Aside from Kronii having a fuck-me voice, everyone else from council seems pretty generic.

>> No.9325997

>>9309829
Gura is the only good thing about myth so Council I guess.

>> No.9326623

>>9312890
The way she plays Tiara is absolutely horrendous for one.
>Writes an essay backstory but ends up with the least entertaining character
>Given a literal macguffin but still needs half an hour to be convinced ro join the party cuz "I work alone despite running for my life last night"
>Complains the most about metagaming but unironically asks for save states and "i have danger vision"
>Everyone's rping and having a good time- she intentionally brings the mood down cuz "my character hates fun and its what my character would do".
>Treats most npcs as meat shields unless they offer significant value
>Feels absolute glee when rolling to damage teammates or do actions that actively compromise them. It's not even power-gaming. She clearly shot the tamed dog just to fuck over Watoto instead of finishing off the other one.
>But when she makes a mistake and gets shot, "Can Amelia's character roll to catch me?"
>Actively out of character interrupts other characters segments to request they focus the story back on her part.
She's been a debuff for the entire campaign and honestly its the primary reason I dislike her

>> No.9326634

>>9325997
LMAO keep seething

>> No.9326951

>>9309829
The calm one (or the punny one or the Canadian)
>Ina>Kronii
The gremlin
>Ame>Bael
The Genki
>Sana>>>Kiara (stop the voice stop it)
The small one
>Gura>Mumei
The Asmr one
>Fauna>Mori
Council has four meme arrows and Myth only has three, so Council wins.

>> No.9330166

>>9326951
>mori
>the asmr one
what did he mean by this?
what the fuck did the faggot mean by this

>> No.9330487

>>9320997
because that means Cover has to be compentent in their hiring. Out all the branches to debut, only Gen 5 and ID 2 seem to actually have any chemistry at all, Myth seems like to have gone full on clique, IRyS is only recognized by Ina, and Council seems to be more restricted than Myth was when they debuted. They should have copied NijiEN or whatever they did with ID2 since those were successes.

>> No.9330546

Too early to say. I like council more at the moment, but the community will probably ruin at least one of them for me, just like they did with Myth.

>> No.9330972

Council. Holomyth sucks outside of Gura.

>> No.9331044

>>9309829
your mom is better

>> No.9331125

>>9323824
Yes

>> No.9333676

The sheer amount of annoying energy Baelz gives off somehow manages to cloud much of my apathy and distaste towards Myth.

>> No.9334028

>>9333676
the yabe thing has to stop

>> No.9334098

>>9333676
I recently realized I want to hatefuck her into silence and that's made her a lot more appealing to listen to

>> No.9334480

>>9309829
HoloMyth:
Mori: Only cares about her music career 1sr, her gen mates 2nd, fans 3rd. The most liked member of EN by JP.
Kiara: Design debuff Has a borderline apara social relationship with her fans. Is very cliquey, really only hanging out with Ame, Ina, Reine, and Subaru. Is legit upset her ship with Mori has fallen apart and people moved on from it. Most hated EN on this board.
Ina: Most respected and loved member of EN by JP, ID, EN, and this board. Is good at games and art. Basically treated as an honorary member of JP. Is the most detached from her fans. Actually loves being in Hololive. Did use nepotism to get a few of her friends into Council.
Gura: Best singer in Myth and arguably EN as a whole. Was formerly the laziest member in EN, but is getting better with streaming longer hours and more days. Is liked by many JP's and Anya. Highly introverted
Ame: The one who likes to introduce new concepts to Hololive. Used to stream like crazy, but got burnt out and goes into feast or famine streaming periods. Hates shipfags. Is the only person in EN on record saying they prefer solo streams over collabs. Is liked by a couple of JP members. Is now considered laziest EN member due to not replacing broken computer components, has the most stream cancelations and delays in all of Hololive, and not taking care of preventable health conditions.

Project Hope
IRyS: Has massive model debuff. Is a hag and is really good at streaming. Is the arguably the best singer in EN branch as a whole with Gura. Is well respected by JP and ID branch, and Ina from EN.

HoloCouncil
Sana- Ina friend. Beeg. Model debuff. Has a lot of energy and is the only HoloCouncil to not play too much into keyfabe. Is an artist, but seems to not rely on it like Ina. First to break the collab ban.
Fauna- Green Lamy and Green Kiara. Is good at games and zatsudans. Sees themselves as an ASMR artist. Plays the 2nd most into keyfabe.
Kornii- Big design buff. Possible Ina friend. Plays the most into keyfabe. Has a ticking timebomb of a relationship. Is pretty decent at games. Also kids first dommy mommy
Mumei- EN Aqua. Was supposed to be the Gura killer, but wasn't. Gets blocked the most by management for wanting to play games. Cracks in keyfabe starting to show. Is possibly Lex Luthor. Also possibly the first disabled person in Hololive if rrat from yesterday is to be belived.
Bae- Board had her as a Gura killer then as Ollie 2.0, but neither happened. 2nd to break Keyfabe. Is leader of HoloCouncil. Is loud.

>> No.9334575

>>9333676
I'm fine with her since she's basically decaf Ollie: less energy but no heart palpitations or urge to destroy everything in close proximity after partaking of it.

>> No.9334656

>>9334480
>Cracks in keyfabe starting to show.
Kayfabe was broken from the beginning. They had a history/civilisation Holo as a premise but then forbade them to do streams discussing history or civilisation/historical games.

If they were going to do that then they should just had that premise be for Omega and have them be a cute chronicler of HoloLore and HoloHistory.

>> No.9335015
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Myth stomps because of Kiara. Arguably one of the best singers and streamers in Hololive. She's the heart and soul of EN and makes her whole Gen better just by being herself. Council lacks the bond that Kiara provides and it's the reason they'll never be as successful as Myth.

>> No.9335078

>>9334480
>Has a ticking timebomb of a relationship.
What?

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>>9309829
Well, Myth has Kiara, which is a significant debuff. While council has Sana, who is the worst so far, but at least she has plenty of room to grow.

>> No.9335184

>>9310390
Boooo, safe and boring answer. Go back to Rainbowland with the rest of the care bears.

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>>9335015
KNEE STATUS: SHATTERED

>> No.9335255

>>9335078
Sorry forgot to add "a ticking timebomb of a relationship with her chat"

>> No.9335319

>>9335015
>>9335189
SAMEFAG

>> No.9335394

>>9335255
>"a ticking timebomb of a relationship with her chat"
Haven't been following Kronii, what happened?

>> No.9335446

>>9335096
Tbh the entirety of Council is worst than Kiara when she first started. Now she's at a level that's almost impossible to catch up to. The one thing Council has going for them is that Kiara is a wonderful senpai and will let her kouhais leech to some degree.

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>>9335319
Close but no cigar

>> No.9335478

>>9335319
Take you meds schizo

>> No.9335522

>>9312890
It feels like everything she does is an attempt to make herself look good, even when she's complementing someone else. It's no surprise she likes Pekora, who's also kind of like that, but least the rabbits antics are funny. There are very few Holos with Pekora's level of comedic timing.

>> No.9335590

>>9335446
I disagree, but respect your opinion. I have a feeling Baelz and Kronii are going to blow up in the next few months. Both of them are quite entertaining straight out of the gate.

>> No.9335667

>>9314100
Very unfair take. Yeah, RIGHT NOW Gura is much more funny, entertaing and interactive but she has year worth of experience in Hololive now. Back around her debut she was pretty much loli Mumei.
We shall see however if Mumei manages to grow as a streamer as much as Gura did.

>> No.9335975

>>9335590
If they do it's likely due to Kiara's involvement in the background but I hope you're right. I'm rooting for their success since both groups are in the same branch, the success of Council is the success of Kiara.

>> No.9336588

>>9310416
This guy gets it.

>> No.9336760

>>9335015
like, i know this is bait, and i don't even dislike kiara that much, but this post makes me seethe

>> No.9337960

>>9335975
Yes, I'm sure. It's all Kiara.
Now if you'll excuse, I have Kiara study this evening at church.

>> No.9341175

>>9309829
council feels like randoms from niji tbqh.

>> No.9341283

>>9309829
Myth.
>Good
Ina, Kiara, Gura,
>Ok
Amelia
>Bad
Mori

Council
>Good
Sana
>Ok
Baelz
>Kronii, Mumei, Fauna

>> No.9341331

>>9341283
A fucked it up, you get what I mean, Kronii, Mumei and Fauna are bad.

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9341386

they're all amateurs

>> No.9341448

>>9309829
I kind of get myth I guess from just sheer design
>Tentacle Monster
>Orange woman
>Detective
>Reaper
>Atlantean Zoomer

then the Council just looking at it
>Jellyfish tree thing
>Mocha
>Girl Discovers Hot Topic
>Windmill Thigh Highs
>Bug Rogue

>> No.9341455

>>9335667
>Back around her debut
Actually no. Gura had an amazing debut, sang and all, and was very talkative even in early streams. It’s part of how she became so popular. She has always been a better streamer than Owl based on what I’ve seen.

>> No.9342780

>>9309829
Honestly just from a pure design standpoint and nothing else I can clearly ascertain the myth members and their mythological backgrounds
>priestess of the ancient ones
>popular fast food chain owner and phoenix
>detective that can time travel
>reaper rapper hybrid
>shark girl from Atlantis
meanwhile with council I have no idea what they're going with
>girl that likes apples
>ganguro chick
>teenager in furry OC cosplay
>ceiling fan turned human
>trash unit from a chinese gacha game

>> No.9344038

>>9341455
Yeah, that debut where she faked that she can't write salmon correctly and she kept saying SHAAAARK continuously to fill those silent moments? Are you sure you really watch her debut?

>> No.9344280

>>9344038
>She spelled salmon wrong, therefore it’s all bad.
That’s not how that works
>at some point she would peek out and say SHAAAARK
That actually had very specific meaning to the right people.

>> No.9344386

>>9309829
I only watch one person from both, but I think the council designs are hotter so them I guess

>> No.9344471

>>9342780
>detective that can time travel
How do you get that from the initial design when the timetravel aspect was only something Ame introduced later on?

>> No.9344480

>>9309829
Holomyth, because it has the best flattie, Ina

Now stop asking shitty questions

>> No.9344538

>>9344471
The pocket watch anon...

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>>9309829
>As full 5
HoloCouncil
>IRyS for Myth and Omega for Council
Myth
>Selectively removing deadweights (Kiara/Mori and Mumei/Sana)
Myth

>> No.9344839

>>9344538
Did anyone really care about the watch? Most early art and comics were focused on the magnifying glass.

>> No.9344931

>>9309960
this but with gura instead of amelia

>> No.9344934

>>9335319
>>9335478
SAMEFAG

>> No.9345108

>>9344709
>sana is deadweight
holy shit taste

>> No.9345162

>>9341331
I feel like Fauna has pottential to not be bad, if she doesn't focus on GFE, since Eddie ruins it. Other two just keep cemmenting themselvs as unwatchable

>> No.9345526

>>9345108
>Total sub numbers are wrong
>Live viewer numbers are wrong
>SC numbers are wrong
Imagine being a sanalite, you're basically arguing against logic itself

>> No.9346969

>>9309829
>Myth
Original and cute designs that are distinct from each other
>Council
Literal genshin impact rejects

>> No.9352849

>>9324390
Myth has Ina.

She may appear like a cute girl to the outsiders, mistakenly feeding her their strength. But she's literally thr unfathomable lovecraftian elder god. The council exists at her leasure, if they misstep or become an irritation the order they impose will be no more.
Umbasa.

Also Kroni speaks like she's holding back her power, but I doubt anyone seriously believe she'll actually be able to stop our Gremlin when she activates gamer mode.

>> No.9358233

>>9344839
It thinks it more that Ame had some sort of time-focused theme because of her clock. Ame decide on her own that it was time travel with alternate dimensions/universes or something like that.

>> No.9358499

>>9344471
>>9358233
When did she tack on the time travel bit? 1st week? 1st month?

>> No.9362661

>>9324390
>>9352849
Ina has already btfo'd any claims that she's super powerful, and Sana can casually destroy planets.

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>>9314482
Yeah, Naw.

>> No.9363116

>>9344538
There was never anything about time travel in her lore. She was just a regular girl who had heard of these mythical creatures and decided to investigate them. Ame 100% made that up on her own after

>> No.9363350

>>9345526
But Sana made $19.7k in SC.

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9363449

>>9362764
based and correct
the sea creatures are the peak EN chuubas

>> No.9363825

>>9309829
It's basically Ina vs Sana and Fauna for me, but at least Mumei and Bae are interesting. Council as a whole but Ina is still first in my heart

>> No.9368403

>>9313303
Noticing that Gura still doesn't have bottom teeth in that picture fuggin hurts bros.

>> No.9368616

>>9313303
Why Kronii vs Watson?

>> No.9368780

>>9315778
Fauna is literally a better entertainer that half of myth. Her ASMR streams are ironically gee worst content and even at their worst they get the job done.

>> No.9372487

dont care all sex

>> No.9372549

>>9309829
Council brought us more titties so they're better equipped for childbearing

>> No.9372616 [DELETED] 

Well since kiara is unwatchable and Mori does nothing interesting, it is 3 to 5 at the start. With that in mind, I think all 7 of them + IRyS are pretty fun to watch.

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>>9309829
Council just started like ten seconds ago so it's hard to compare, but from what I've seen I'm not super into Council so far. I like Mumei a lot, but the others seem to be either trying to hard to play their characters or just have a personality that isn't really my type, I guess. We'll see in time, though. Myth definitely hit gold with their chemistry, so I doubt they'll be able to beat that.

>> No.9373179

So the only reason /vt/ hates kiara is because of her fake voice?

>> No.9374462

This is cool and all but Irys is the best one.

>> No.9375596

Myth was and is probably the highest spec gen in hololive atleast on paper though your personal experience may differ while literally only Sana has any actual talent in council so it's not really even a comparison.

>> No.9375715

both mostly bad but myth has ame + ina so it's automatically better

>> No.9375935

>>9309829
so why does Sana have such a small subscriber count compared to the rest of the council?

>> No.9376136

>>9373179
50% chicken voice, 50% narcissism

>> No.9376389

En2 is hot garbage. Though the more I stay on the board the more I find myself hating en1

>> No.9376488

>>9376389
you're way of thinking is based on boards like this LMAO?
>pathetic

>> No.9376702

>>9376389
>Though the more I stay on the board the more I find myself hating en1
Touch grass

>> No.9376857

>>9326623
dont forget neither tiara nor kiara pay rent

>> No.9376867

>>9375935
Pakis, Indonesians and the rest of the 3rd world doesn't like her, so she doesn't get the sub which costs 0$. But she's doing much better in SCs where slums niggers metter less

>> No.9377020

>>9341283
I'd flip Kiara and Ame but otherwise I agree.

>> No.9377349

>>9335184
yeah,we want Blood!

>> No.9377503

>>9363116
If we're just going off of the four paragraphs of lore they al debuted with there's practically nothing there.

>> No.9377894

>>9323855
anime website

>> No.9377947

>>9376389
Get away from /vt/ immediately anon, if you are that sugestionable then you are better off not being exposed to the schizo ramblings and trolls in this board

>> No.9378165

>>9313303
god this shit is so cringe

>> No.9378301

>>9344038
>she kept saying SHAAAARK continuously
he lacks critical information

>> No.9381188

>>9309829
Council until we get some shitty mud trackers like Mori who can't leave her shitty boyfriend out of it

>> No.9381789

>>9381188
keep making stories Nigger
>just because 3 of the council got caught having a bf you'll bring up a thread that has been debunked months ago
>KEEP SEETHING

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>>9381188
>Mori
>boyfriend

>> No.9382065

>>9381969
anon im pretty sure this guy hate mori that much that he will bring up de bunked threads just because.......
>most council have one LMAO

>> No.9382272

>>9382065
What threads are you talking about?

>> No.9382524

>>9382272
>>9381188
this one that brings old threads that has been de bunked months ago, just because he finally learns that most council have one and trying to pass it to someone LMAO

>> No.9383021

All the holos are better

>> No.9383358

>>9309829
Myth is better

>> No.9387333

>>9309829
Council since they don't have ame

>> No.9388878

>>9362661
Why would the avater reveal its true self?
She appears as a qt wah for a reason anon.
Umbasa.

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