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/nasfaqg/ - NASFAQ General - Return of the King Edition
Thread for the discussion of NASFAQ, a financial market simulator based on holding of coins that represent the members of hololive and some of their mamas.

https://nasfaq.biz/info - READ THIS.

This is a fake stock market game meant for FUN, not a real stock market (cryptofags will not be happy here either, no real money involved, NO you won't get better at stocks from this).

Research 1: https://schedule.hololive.tv
Research 2: https://holo.poi.cat
Research 3: https://hololive.jetri.co

Divvies of the prior two weeks as .png in case server fucks you over: https://files.catbox.moe/98xmz7.png (sell Miko now) (she's a bad deal) (I'm not shitting you)
F.U.C.K. Reports (Market-based reports, normally updated weekly on Mondays and Fridays):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/104gsM_vZz1MuhJxfuYeT_xNFC1Qk1h7zeLVoCyFsrSw/edit?usp=sharing
"real oshiboard" spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c-ioaVcHWb4kMHXF8kqND9mZ_O84P-xLzbDoY-JGmrk/edit?usp=sharing
revised Haaton wallet analyzer sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ou-iTo4fF9YcPWKZZtqsG-SjUJDWBJ20Wxrrwc2-he8/edit?usp=sharing
Mikofag's humble attempt to archive some of the thread OC: https://mega.nz/folder/NeQghDqL#mSL13SdqKjKgYVjFCgF6Iw

Previous Thread: >>9226170

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>> No.9280912

wah or something i guess

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>>9280809

>> No.9280932

>>9280809
congrats on the 3535

>> No.9281019

Buy Towa.

>> No.9281021

ohhh sex

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>>9281019

>> No.9281124

So how much longer is it until doom?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZRKjY9NijY

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Congratulations to Konnui for reaching 7000 Towas! Well done.

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>>9281128

>> No.9281188

>>9281128
Shut up, Konnui.

>> No.9281256

>wah is not the first post
The boggening tomorrow will be of epical proportions

>> No.9281353
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>>9281124

>> No.9281958

I keep selling all my 5k-8k coins and getting fucked when they spike up to 11-14k later

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>>9261027
Forgot this one but here is todays passive view lost
https://pastebin.com/udGSZL1c

>> No.9282438

>>9282324
>Ayamy lost 45 views
That's half her daily views, sell sell sell

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Yes yes, sell them...
btw, how I'm not in the oshiboard if I have more than 500?

>> No.9283154

>>9283103
Make wallet public

>> No.9283667

>page 5
Anons, it's over...

>> No.9283720

>>9283667
>page 1
Anon, you saved us...

>> No.9283747

>>9283667
Stop bumping the thread, and it might be so.

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9284808

Nothing to talk about today, huh.

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>>9284808
I can start a kenzoku reply chain if you want.

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>>9284845

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>>9284993
cute new loading screen i love towa

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>>9284845
thinking of Towa...

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>>9285090
Wow what a coincidence, I also love Towa. We could become best friends

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>>9285170
I wouldn't be against that

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>>9285196
https://files.catbox.moe/wsbeqx.mp4

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>>9285335

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>>9285385

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>>9285418

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>>9285335

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>>9284808
This is what you wanted to see right?

>> No.9285619

>>9284808
There's not much indeed, you either fell for the sell everything FUD or for the keep buying one, and there's no middle ground here, the people who sold are now too deep in to pull back and start buying coins that are going down, like wise, people who are buying are now way past the peak price so no point in selling
All we can do is wait for honk's bogration: 2 to kick in

>> No.9285680
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>>9285612
towa baby

>> No.9285693

>>9285619
>MPP 8k
>Coin value 27k
>Own 1547 shares
Youd have to be stupid to not sell. Not even 5 weeks of divvies will return that money lost back.

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>>9285583
>>9285680
?

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>>9285735
Locked up with Towa-sama!

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>>9285794
It is Towa-sama that is gonna lock YOU up. Enjoy solitary confinement.

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>>9285877
I have yet to hear any downsides

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>>9285967
No daily Towa... posting anymore

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>>9286018

>> No.9286812

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mJRah9nCLU

German bros and germanised bros, come listen.

>> No.9286899 [SPOILER] 
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9286899

>I have 115 million in liquid, let me buy 50 million of my oshi in one go and i'll pay 65 million in transaction fees.
Why is this not a thing? It burns money from the economy so hard and oshiboard becomes competitive again.
>Something, something, multicoin inflates coin prices
Reduce volatility, also helps with inflation

>> No.9286976

I legitimately think some of the people who post here are actually retarded and I don't blame the devs for not talking to us anymore/infrequently

>> No.9287015

>>9286976
why don't you kill yourself

>> No.9287027
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>>9286812
Danke, left a dislike and closed in under 5 seconds so my view wouldn't count.

>> No.9287194

>>9287027
why are you a tribalfaggot...

>> No.9287336

>>9287027
based
>>9287194
cringe

>> No.9287362

>>9287336
rent free

>> No.9287429

>>9287362
She pays me when i ravage her asshole

>> No.9287563

>>9287429
Nice. Can I come join?

>> No.9287900

>>9287563
Too late, her patreon is inactive

>> No.9288351

Imagine thinking hating Kiara is a tribal thing. Cringe.

>> No.9288455

>>9287027
based

>> No.9288625

>>9288351
Imagine having Kiara live rent free in your head.

>> No.9288671

Nature is healing.

>> No.9288847

>>9288625
>mentions kiara is streaming
>hurrrrr RENT FREE
I don't think you understand what rent free means

>> No.9289069

>>9288847
go back to >>/hlgg/

>> No.9289143

>>9288847
>Mention Kiara ONCE
>Suddenly all these tribalfags come out of the woodwork
R E N T F R E E

>> No.9289218

>>9289143
>post one thing
>get one reply
AHHHH THE TRIBALFAGS AHHHHH
kill yourself you fucking ricemonkey

>> No.9289301

>>9287027
>>9287336
>>9288351
>>9288455
>>9288847
These all (you)?

>> No.9289334

only >>9288455

>> No.9289553

Clearly there are more than one that care and think about Kiara enough to start seething over Kiara getting mentioned once.

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>>9288455
I might be a schizo but I'm not fucking pathetic

>> No.9290164
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9290164

>scatcunt mentioned
>thread goes to shit
good night nasfaqg

>> No.9290241

>>9290164
Good night seanigger

>> No.9290704

>>9285877
So towa likes chastity? What's next? She is gonna put a dress on you and make you grow your hair so she can style them?

>> No.9290993

https://youtu.be/_xL58zG9k5k?t=2196
CUNNY IDOL

>> No.9291413

>>9290993
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

>> No.9291572
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>>9290704
Yes. Then she will start grooming you to be her perfect Apex partner.

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>>9291572
I can become a cute High School Korean Girl if I get locked up by Towa? This is amazing.

>> No.9291676

>>9291636
>korean
a sacrifice to ayame

>> No.9291721
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>>9291676
>whore

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>>9291676
What's Ayame gonna do? Stream? lol whore can't do anything of her volition

>> No.9292431

>>9291572
What about the sex? Who fucks who and how?

>> No.9292495
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>>9292431
Towa banana...

>> No.9292509
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>>9292431
Sex? What about it?

>> No.9292668

>>9292495
futowa...

>> No.9293798

>>9290704
>>9291572
>>9292431
>>9292495
Kenzokus why are you like this...

>> No.9293909

>>9293798
why aren’t you like this

>> No.9293920

>>9286899
Now that we have broker fees, why not just remove the cooldown?

>> No.9293959
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>>9293798
Cus this is our outpost now.

>> No.9294063
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>>9293798
Towa has significantly impacted my mental state where I can not go longer go longer than maybe 1 hour without thinking about Towa in some capacity

>> No.9294116

>>9293959
How big and menacing is her banana?

>> No.9294225
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>>9294116
Big and menacing enough to create her own harem

>> No.9294261

>>9294225
All me

>> No.9294437

>>9294261
Due to Towa's infinite harem size, it can be all you, and also all me, and all everyone. All will become part of Towa's Massive Harem due to her banana

>> No.9294573

Soon...

>> No.9294595

Anons being feminized by towa's banana is so fucking hot. I don't know what's wrong with me.

>> No.9294761

The changes will be made tonight, but are they taking effect retroactively and the bog is happening tomorrow, or is it only happening tuesday?

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>>9294595
Nothing. It's a completely normal reaction.

>> No.9294830

>>9294772
Anything you want to share about this tenshi heimin?

>> No.9294936

>>9294830
Not on the tunisian basket-weaving forum

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>>9285583
I dozed off and forgot about this.

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dont buy

>> No.9295474

>>9295451
But towa...

>> No.9295912
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>>9294772
Looking cute Heimin.

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>>9295474

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>>9296473
You're a little late >>9281044

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>>9296681
its never too late to remind people

>> No.9296849

>>9296804
i bought towa but it was only for profits, is that ok?

>> No.9296916

>>9296849
>Towa
>profit
never buy

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Mumei is boring.

>> No.9299398
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I hate printers

>> No.9299622

>>9294772
Can't believe my Tenshi frienemy is into the good stuff.

>> No.9299630

>>9299163
Could you imagine a collab between Ina and Mumei? That shit would be the cure for insomnia, if only one of those plain boring ass chuubas is enough to put you to sleep imagine two of them, I'm pretty sure you could weaponize that shit

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>>9299630
don't tempt me with a good nap

>> No.9301414

85 cycles left

>> No.9301483

>>9301414
until adjustment, only 37 until the fees start

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WELCOME -- TO HOUR NINETEEN
HOUR NINETEEN...
THE... NINETEENTH HOUR
IT'S NOT THE SEVENTEENTH HOUR
IT'S NOT THE... NINTH HOUR
IT'S HOUR NINETEEN
ONE... NINE...
A VERY... SPECIAL HOUR
IN THAT, HOUR NINETEEN, IS THE NINETEENTH HOUR, NOT... ANY OTHER HOUR
VERY FEW HOURS CAN CLAIM TO BE THE NINETEENTH HOUR
THIS HOUR... IS ONE OF THOSE HOURS
AND AS WE SIT HERE, ENJOYING THIS HOUR, THE NINETEENTH HOUR, LET'S SPARE A MOMENT, TO THINK OF THOSE HOURS THAT AREN'T QUITE THE NINETEENTH HOUR
HOUR EIGHTEEN... AND HOUR TWENTY

WELCOME TO THE NINETEENTH HOUR!

>> No.9301762
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>> No.9301918

>>9301764
nice

>> No.9302028

>>9301762
>>9301764
Incredible.

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>>9301764
>19:00:00

>> No.9302963
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Hi-
The team had a meeting earlier today about our plans and ideas to reduce inflation and make the market more competitive/ interesting. So far, here's what we came up with in order of priority. Please let us know your thoughts.
1. Multicoin trading. Players can trade up to 5 coins at once with an additional 10% broker fee per coin, for both buying and selling. e.g. you can buy 5 Botan at $2,000 each immediately but you pay $10,000 * 1.5 = $15,000 total.
2. Asset tiers. Players will be able to purchase tiered assets such as lambos, yachts, jets, etc. to signify their ranking on the leaderboard. For example, a lambo would cost $1,000,000 (adjusting for inflation) and continue contributing to your net worth after purchase. When you own an asset, you will be added to a smaller leaderboard for owners of said item. This would make rising through the ranks more involved for new players.
3. Oshi assets/ premium coins - players can trade oshi coins for these premium, non-sellable coins that contribute to networth at a slight boost but do not pay dividends. The oshiboard would rank users based on amount owned of these special items. Removes money from the economy and makes it less viable to change oshis.
4. Changing the adjustment time back to 1amET. Based on player input, it seems that the current adjustment time of 9amET has made gameplay a bit stale because it removes any surprise due to how long after the YouTube API update it occurrs. Players can just check poi and know what the good deals are. Since the YouTube API begins updating stats at 19:00ET and does not finish until around 5-6 hours after, the earliest time we could move adjustment to is 1:00am while still keeping it close. With the new autotrader, we feel the issues we were having before with players in different timezones not being able to play at adjustment should be slightly alleviated.
5. New dividend formula. We are thinking of changing the dividend formula so that dividend rates will factor in the relative week-to-week change in performance of each coin compared to itself, rather than solely on market mean.
6. More gacha items and hats. Adding an item for every holo, as well as hats and items that do things like jeb_. Also the auctions (as you can tell, this has been pushed back significantly)
7. Trading licences. Licenses would be purchased at certain net worths and allow players to engage in shorting, margins, and options.
----way down the line----
8. Holostates

floor id 60655ccc-ccd5-458c-8e99-fea891a1bd22

>> No.9303051
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>>9302963
>2k botan
FUCKING SELLL AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.9303177

>>9303051
Aw shit, ngmi

>> No.9303192

>>9302963
>hats
You son of a bitch! I'm in!

>> No.9303215

>>9302963
I wanna ask if the oshiboard will purely be a moneysink now. That's actually not a bad idea

>> No.9303273

>>9302963
>Changing the adjustment time back to 1amET.

>> No.9303393

>>9303215
The oshi items that it would rank players on would be a money sink in that you can't sell them, but they would still contribute to your networth. They would have the market value but maybe at a slight boost, so your networth would be more tightly bound to your oshi. You have to trade normal oshi coins in order to get the special ones.

>> No.9303394

>>9302963
What is the cooldown for multicoin trading? 10min?

>> No.9303404
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>>9302963
>1am adjustment
Honk... My beauty sleep.

>> No.9303451

>>9303394
Yes

>> No.9303502

>>9302963
>Multicoin trading.
NO! All multicoin trading does is remove the time element, even with the fees. The fees are mostly irrelevant in the current economy (just like the buy fees you're about to add, completely irrelevant), it only accelerates the inflation problem faster!
>With the new autotrader, we feel the issues we were having before with players in different timezones not being able to play at adjustment should be slightly alleviated.
THAT'S A HUGE FUCKING LIE! PLEASE explain me how zhonkbot helps in any way to make decisions, change buys and sells for you at 1am?

>> No.9303523

>>9302963
What about a server sided autotrader?
So we can prevent niggers with spreadsheets to rape the server, again.

>> No.9303581

>>9302963
1. Multicoin trading
Already broken due to volatility being same-ish across the board. So you could yolobuy holo or marine at a slight loss BUT being able to get double the coin amount in the same time makes more than up for it, factoring in divvies of those coins you actually GAIN money here. Won't matter at all for shitcoins.
If a coin dips you just rush right in with 5x and slowly go down, keeping your relative expenses stable but you're done much earlier. Also locks out poor people much faster. Think this one through very hard.
2. locking your networth in thing that does nothing vs. locking it in coins which pay divvies, might be DOA
3. >pay no dividends
haha NO why would I gimp myself. would only make sense if it was forced after a certain amount of coins or actually contribute more to oshiboard coin count
4. the new autotrader will not at all help you with being unable to play if you have to get up at 6am or earlier and can't even check poi beforehand. Sure it would make the game more exciting, but it would also lock a good amount of burgers out.
5. >relative week to week change in performance instead of whatever it does right now
now that's spitting in the face of every chuuba with good numbers, while also elleviating some shitcoins from their shitcoin status. But then again, seeing how well that algo works (see EN2 just this week) I would be VERY afraid of absolute moons out of fucking nowhere.
6. YES.
7. >net worth
so like IRL you need securities to short. Good enough. Make sure you can force-pay with coins instead of dollars.
8. read holostars first kek

>> No.9303592

>>9303451
Thank you honk. Please ETA on multicoin so I know when to nuke my portfolio.

>> No.9303596

why the fuck would I ever pay 150% for a coin, even if a chuuba personally sucked my dick and gave me her schedule in advance so I could time the market perfectly that wouldn't pay off

>> No.9303609

>>9303393
If I understand it correctly, it would be like how people managed to obtain those Cocock badges a few months back? Can I still get those premium coins whenever I sell my oshi?

>> No.9303637

>>9303596
>peko dips to $3k
>pay 50% premium to buy tons of her at $4,5k for a few cycles
>have 25 peko in 5 cycles raising your coin count out of that dip
it pays out nicely if done correctly.

>> No.9303658

>>9302963
>multicoin
Never was a fan of this, but if you're adding it, please just make sure the penalty for it is fucked like you described.
>asset tiers
Hello, I'm an autist that was discussing this, it legitimately does not work if it doesn't affect everyone, if you're placed on a shitty board where no one cares about, no one will use it, it would have to be implemented on the main leaderboard for it to actually be encouraged.
>oshi assets
But why would you ever do this? Sure you could be on the oshiboard for a little bit if you're poor, but all it would take is for the rich goy at the top to throw coins at it. It just legitimately further divides those who care for oshi and those who care for actual leaderboard, which is not many. I feasibly would only buy these premium coins when I'm sick of the game, because having that much oshi is vital for dividend elements, and to buy more oshi.
>Adjustment time
Leave it or push it slightly earlier if anything. The poi thing sucks but there's still a sizeable half of the day where you can't really know what coins are good.
>Dividend formula
Yes
>Gacha items/hats
Give me Towa hat first and I'll say yes.
>Trading licenses
Doesn't really work with this game due to coin prices instantly changing at a specified time, the time out before you could actually use this would have to be a long period to make it worth while
>nations
If I get to run a nation with the other retards on my oshiboard that'd be cool I guess

>> No.9303690

>>9303596
>>9303502
who's right

>> No.9303732

>>9303596
it wouldn't pay off economically but if you get your dick sucked by a chuuba i think its worth regardless

>> No.9303757

>>9303609
You would trade your normal oshi coins and get the special items in return, except the items are still counted in your worth.

>> No.9303776

>>9303596
Time is a resource too and should really factor with a stock market game. Currently, you only can only trade 144 times for each coin available on the market. Making multitrades free is retarded

>> No.9303780

>>9302963
>multicoin
already creamed my pants, but then
>More gacha items and hats
hell yeah

>> No.9303844

>>9303776
They shouldn't be free but a 50% markup is almost never going to be worth it unless you're trying to oshiwar or the coin got susan'ed that day like >>9303637 mentions.

>> No.9303881

>>9303757
ahh naruhodo

>> No.9303883

>>9302963
None of these address the core fucking problem, the insane coin volumes in circulation. No one will willingly put money on things that will gimp themselves like the "assets"
And 1am, really? That hasn't been a source of complaint for months, it came as a compromise to try to be at a reasonable for the most timezones. The autotrader does not help in ANY way with that, you can't even blindly schedule it to change on its own (which is still a huge disadvantage). And all it does is affect daytrading, which even now only give you pocket change unless there's a big event, but you sure as fuck don't need poi when there's a big event to know you should be buying!

>> No.9303908

>>9303844
this change honestly scares the fuck out of me. t oshiwarer

>> No.9303944

>1am ET
Finally you all can fuck your sleep schedules and i can get a break..

>> No.9303984

>>9302963
>>9303883
Actually, now that I think about it, your point doesn't even stand! Now with multicoin, you can just buy as much as you want right after poi updates, you can buy way more than the 40 cycles you're removing!

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>>9302963
>Multicoin Trading
Does nothing except silence the portion of the userbase that won't stop asking for it. Contributes nothing to the overall gamestate. Also, Broker fees don't affect sales and mass dumping is what I would want to use it for. Do not do.
>Asset Tiers
>Oshi Assets
>Gacha Items that do things
>Hats
All of these are good ideas, but polish them a bit.
>New Dividend Formula with the coin comparing more to itself than to the market mean.
FUCK I NEVER CONSIDERED MARKET MEAN AS THE CENTRAL POINT EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE NOW. Putting aside how magic is dead, that will cause dividend values to be a bit wild and also most of them will likely go UP unless you slash the numbers low across the board. I'm talking pennies on the dollar level of slashing prices. It's not a terrible idea, but I implore you to reconsider. Maybe make the dividend formula the same, but based on the "real" value instead of the market value assuming it's not already like that
>Changing adjustment back to 1a
No. I say this as somebody where neither time is significant. I'm up for both anyway. While you are correct that the trade time has made the game stale, the autotrader does not alleviate the problem enough. There are issues with leaving the trader on overnight, least of which are the reliability concerns. The autotrader is not a viable or even semi-viable replacement for being present at adjustment until we can set times for it to turn on and have it run without a client being open. Even if the Haatontrader was 100% bog free and endorsed, I would not consider it viable without modifications that would effectively render it able to play the game for you without your input. That's the opposite of engagement. Heavily reconsider this idea, or at least reconsider the reasoning behind it. Your current reasoning is flawed.

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>>9302963
>4. Changing the adjustment time back to 1amET
pls no.
>Hats
Hurry up already.

>> No.9304491

>>9303658
Agreed, asset tiers have to affect the whole board or else it is useless.

Charge users 20M to get to gold rank. Then after some time passes and inflation rears its ugly head, charge 50M to get to diamond rank. Asset tiers is just turning a good idea into a shitty one.

>> No.9304596

>>9304214
But wouldn't oshi assets fuck over oshicoiners on the leaderboard?

>> No.9304644

>>9304596
oshi assets just makes oshicoining even harder than it already is. As if coining itself wasnt enough of a debuff.

>> No.9304719

>>9304596
Yes. I don't think it's inherently wrong to force players to balance position with their Oshi and position on the leaderboard. I say this as somebody that would be looking to buy into half a dozen assets under that system.
The idea needs polish, but the idea isn't necessarily bad on its own merits.

>> No.9304765

>>9302963
>1.Multicoin
good, the 50% fee is good, it balances it quite well
>2. Assets tiers
You are fucking retarded if you think someone is going to buy this, if it's as I'm understanding it, which is you have to pay with liquid for a fucking jet then no one is going to buy, WHY WOULD ANYONE DUMP 100M ON A THING THAT DOESN'T HELP YOU AT ALL, YOU'D BE MUCH BETTER OFF USING THE 100M FOR COINS
>3. Oshi assets/premium coins
see above, I do agree that Oshicoining shouldn't be a good strat and that it should have downsides, but you are completely delusional if you think people are going to give up their divs for a fucking cosmetic coin
>4. 1am ET adjustments
I will literally murder you, no one has complained about this in a long time
>5. new divvy formula
good
>more gacha items for every holo and hats and things like jeb_
very good
>7. trading licenses
good maybe? I just buy red sell green, but more options is always good
>8. Holostates
good
Now go take your meds, some of this looks like shitposting I'd make when I'm off my meds

>> No.9304803

My 3.5 cents; if you want to change adjustments back to 1AM ET, you need to rework the autotrader to do smart trades (i.e. if the price drops below 10k, buy until cost is 13.5k)
If I can't set up my autotrader to buy a hypothetical dip/sell a hypothetical spike, then changing adjustment time will be harmful.
On the other hand this'll automate the game even more but a competent spreadsheet could manage this functionality so it's almost an inevitability.

>> No.9304845

>no one will buy the assets
the 3 people who superchat constantly will do and remove 10 million from the game!

>> No.9304866
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>>9302963
>1. Multicoin trading
It stacks? Nobody will use it outside of niche scenarios. Just make it have double the usual transaction fee, flat 20% instead of 10%.
>2. Asset tiers
It doesn't pay dividends, nobody will buy it
>3. Oshi assets/premium couns
It doesn't pay dividends, nobody will buy it.
>4. 1am ET
picrel
>5. New dividend formula
The adjustment and dividend algos need work. I trust you can actually figure something new out, EN2 + Susan caught you guys with your pants down but the old algos were mostly solid up until now.
>6. More gacha items and hats.
I want to stack the hats. I want to wear all of Maririn's hats at the same time. I want the kenzokus to get to stack bibis so high up they extend 3000 px outside the viewport. Yes. Make this #1 damn it. WHERE'S MUH SANKISEI ITEM HONK?
>7. shorting, margins, options
I like this, but will it really matter if shares are infinite and we all roughly understand how adjustment works?
>8. Holostates
You best give us Holostars first.

>> No.9304940

I think the middle-ground for getting oshi-coin assets would be to have them pay dividends but be unsellable, but that doesn't really fix anything because nobody who oshi-coins is going to sell anyways.

>> No.9305061

>>9304803
The thing is, if it does smart trades, then it might as well play the game for you. Their argument that the official bot can handle it is COMPLETELY wrong

>> No.9305220

Yeah I'm honestly not sure what do to in terms of oshi-coin assets. There's a possibility they could be "balanced" to appreciate, so let's say Sora has a $1000 dividend (1118 but we'll make it a nice even number) then a Premium Sora bond would instead appreciate in value by like $1750.
So you have $750 more net worth than the guy with the dividend coin, but you can't spend said net worth. This doesn't fix leaderboard inflation but it does take money out of the economy. The only problem is that it would require careful balancing against divs to make it at all worth it (is the 750 in the example too much? Too little?) and eventually the guy making smarter trades with his liquid is probably going to outstrip your fixed appreciating assets thanks to compounding.

>> No.9305312

>>9305220
the problem is that oshicoiners dont generally care about their position on the leaderboard, so a meaningless networth boost isn't an incentive.

>> No.9305377

>>9305312
>oshicoiners don't care
I do. I don't want to be forced to buy worthless assets and tank my leaderboard position, I'm lucky enough to have an oshi who pays decent dividends so I'm not completely gimping myself by oshicoining.

>> No.9305416

>>9302963
>3. Oshi assets/ premium coins - players can trade oshi coins for these premium, non-sellable coins that contribute to networth at a slight boost but do not pay dividends. The oshiboard would rank users based on amount owned of these special items. Removes money from the economy and makes it less viable to change oshis.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>do not pay dividends
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Did you really discuss this with the other devs and went "yeah, it's going to be amazing, people will love it" no one in their right mind is going to give up divs honk, hell you fucking dunce, Oshicoiners (True) don't give a fuck about networth, so your "contribute to networth at a slight boost" is stupid, if you must absolutely remove divs with the item give something that would actually benefit oshicoiners, perhaps lower fee on multicoining for their oshi the more of that item they have, but removing divs in exchange for networth is NOT the play to make

>> No.9305724

>>9302963
1. Multicoin
I'm for this, gets rid of liquid faster and removes more money from the market via fees.
2. Asset tiers
Its fine, but how would you incentivize the top of the current leaderboard to buy in to this. I assume these give no dividends.
3. Oshi assets
As an oshicoiner, this is fine, but not earning divs on them still rubs me the wrong way. Maybe a reduced div rate for these.
4. Adjustment time
I've personally wanted this change back. I always felt 9amEST was way too late for actual speculation and risk. When it comes to adjustment times, people are always going to be biased towards times they can make, but gameplay is at stake here.
5. Dividend formula
No opinions here
6. Gacha items
No opinions here
7. Shorting, margins, options
Too complex for me

t. PST Top 30 oshicoiner

>> No.9305876 [SPOILER] 
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>>9301764
Warning: Large Image Ahead
Good evening, welcome to the News Hour. This is your NASFAQ Market Report for Sunday, September 5th.

>> No.9306029

As a SEA dweller i approve the adjustment change. Fuck the burgers. Unfortunately, yuro and burgers are 90% of your playerbase so you decide if its worth it. Also Its true that the game is much more easier due to the adjustment change but people won't give up convenience for quality gameplay. I like all the suggestions, ill especially the multicoin. fuck profit, i just wanna stack to high heavens with my oshi, for the poor thinking that multicoin feature is for you, def nope, its for the rick who's doing 24/7 buys and for oshicoiners.

>> No.9306109

Weird how some of you oshicoiners care about leaderboard position. Oshicoining sabotages your leaderboard position, caring about leaderboard position sabotages oshicoining. Please focus on one mental illness at a time.

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>>9306109
Fool. Restraints and limitations make the game more fun. Anybody can win a game. Can you win two games while holding yourself back in both?

>> No.9306323

>>9306109
I would be down to the 50th place in a month if I lost my oshi's mediocre divvies

>> No.9306410

Just introduce taxes with brackets if inflation is that big of an issue.

>> No.9306521

>>9302963
Oh god why are you like this? Listen to your playerbase for one fucking time instead of jerking each other off in the background just to come up with such retarded changes.

Stop rushing those shitty changes just to revert them in a week

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9306527

The fuck happened here?

>> No.9306746

>>9306521
I think the state of the threads is proof enough that the playerbase doesn't know what the fuck they want either.

>> No.9306762

>>9303581
>the new autotrader will not at all help you with being unable to play if you have to get up at 6am or earlier and can't even check poi beforehand. Sure it would make the game more exciting, but it would also lock a good amount of burgers out.
The point of switching adjustment times is to make trades based more on speculation rather than seeing the numbers then making your plays, also
>6am
>burgers

>> No.9306825

I mean, I get it. Devchama is trying to replicate a bubble burst. But I hope devchama can make a system which would do just that instead of manually switching bogrations whenever inflation accelerates

>> No.9306913

>>9306825
just leave bogration on at all times. can't believe it wasnt there from the start.

>> No.9306927

>>9306746
Because we are in a constant state of coping for the last horrible change.

>> No.9306962

>>9306527
sex

>> No.9307284

>>9306962
The 3D stream? For shame, /vt/.

>> No.9307314

Please do not change adjustmenrt time

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>>9305876
Thanks anon

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>>9307549
My pleasure.

>> No.9307821

>>9306521
these suggestions are from the playerbase you retard, holy fuck the absolute state of nasfaq

>> No.9307993

>>9306521
Literally all of those suggestions except one are directly from player suggestions.
Guess which one.

>> No.9307999

>>9307821
please point to me where anyone suggested trading coins for worthless ones that give no divs

>> No.9308053

>>9307821
That's the problem, don't listen to armchair game developers

>> No.9308068

>>9307549
Ah, it's Mel. Ame would never act that slutty.

>> No.9308714
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9308714

Like a bolt from the blue, it's time for the Numbers Review.

First up, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>AAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAA
>AAAAAA AA% AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Top 5 AAAAAAAAAAA (of AAAAAAAAAA):
>AAAAAA :: +AAA%
>AAA :: +AA%
>AA-Hey, get the hell out of here!

Sorry, folks. Some crazy faggot got in the studio.

Here's the R.I.C.H. report for today:
>Total Shares in Circulation is 1,744,978, a 5.22% decrease from yesterday's volume.
>Average shares per coin is 31,160. 24 coins are above this average.
>Pekora holds as highest-volume coin, at 109,051 shares, or 6.25 of total Volume.
>Civia holds as lowest-volume coin, at 4,079 shares, or 0.23% of total Volume.

Top 5 Volume Increases (of 13):
>Pochimaru :: +21.5%
>Civia :: +10%
>Lamy :: +7.2%
>Ina'nis :: +6.9%
>Miko :: +6.5%

Top 5 Volume Decreases (of 43):
>Choco :: -21%
>Ollie :: -20.8%
>Shion :: -19.7%
>Roboco :: -18.3%
>Ayame :: -18%

4 coins (IRyS, Flare, Gura, Korone) had a volume change of sub-1% today.

Here's the R.I.S.E. report for today:
>Starting Liquid is estimated at $125,183.67, a 5.18% decrease from yesterday's estimate.
>Total Market Value is $27,229,141,407.56, an 8.9% decrease from yesterday's Market Value.
>Average Value per Share is $15,604.29. There are 12 coins above this average.
>Pekora has the largest Market Value, at $2,543,701,815.80, or a market share of 9.34%.
>Poshimaru has the lowest Market Value, at $18,606,663.15, or 0.07% market share.

Top 5 Value Gains (of 18):
>Choco :: +94.4%
>IRyS :: +30.6%
>Pekora :: +20.6%
>Ollie :: +15.2%
>Amelia :: +12.8%

Top 5 Value Losses (of 38):
>Sana :: -25.7%
>Melfissa :: -25.6%
>Haato :: -22.4%
>Fauna :: -21.2%
>Matsuri :: -20.1%

No coins had a sub-1% change in volume today.

Here's the F.R.E.E. report for today:
>Total Superchats are $384,130,775, a 1.78% increase from yesterday.
>Total amount superchatted today is $6,730,381.
>Average Superchat per coin is $6,859,478.13. There are 9 coins above this average.
>Highest Superchat amount still belongs to Matsuri.

Top 10 Superchat Increases (of 12):
>Ina'nis :: +23.7%
>Fubuki :: +19.2%
>Aqua :: +12.8%
>Kronii :: +7.1%
>Lamy :: +6.1%
>Nene :: +2.7%
>Polka :: +1.6%
>Shion :: +1%
>Sora :: +0.7%
>Amelia :: +0.6%

44 coins did not receive Superchats today.

And now for the weather.
The Boggering Front is coming in hot, with 3 hours (18 cycles) left until we're all completely bogged. If you haven't boarded up your oshi's windows and stashed your liquid in offshore accounts, you should probably get to that. Keep in mind that market power will be out for a few days, so canned liquid will help you greatly. If not, you can always use rope to get yourself out of a sticky situation.

The Financial Underwriters of Comprehensive Knowledge would like to remind you to stay informed, shitpost responsibly, and FUD accurately.

>> No.9308859

>>9302963
1. Would certainly make a lot oshiraces a lot more interesting now that there's a way to meaningfully close the gap, would like to see it happen
2. and 3. Seems like a money sink idea that not a lot of people will buy into aside from people that are on the way out, could be wrong though.
4. I like this idea, it would also help line up the subs/views gains for everyone aside from EN. With spreadsheets/autotrader everyone should be able to play at adjustment.
5. Curious to what this entails, currently if someone has a super high performing week, then back to a normal week. The dividends will go back to roughly what is what before. My assumption with this is that we will be getting higher highs and lower lows. What would happen in the sense when a consistent weekly 2 million view channel goes to 7 million views then back down to 2 million views? Would the third week where the channel goes to 2 million views down from 7 million have lower divs than the first week? If so wouldn't that settle the dividends at a lower payout than what it was before having a good week? Would have to see how this system plays out before giving more feedback, but paired with multicoin trading I can see potential in this system.
6. It's fine as a side thing to work on, won't make too much of an impact on inflation unless the items have a big effect
7. Would need more details before judging but more gameplay mechanics that aren't easy like the current one would be welcomed for sure.

>> No.9308892

>>9308714
>Civia :: +10%
fucking bugs

>> No.9309071

>>9308892
Hey, if the Chinese aren't offshore from you, you need to move.

>> No.9309127

>>9309071
They're across an entire ocean from me and I still want to be further away from them

>> No.9309161

>>9308714
>Starting Liquid is estimated at $125,183.67
This is your last chance newfags, if any of you is reading this for some reason make an account now before everything goes to shit tomorrow

>> No.9309200

>>9308859
>now that there's a way to meaningfully close the gap
More like a way for the rich to expand the gap even more.

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OH NONONONONONONONONONONO NABI IS NEVER GOING TO GO UP THANKS TO BOGRATION PFFFFFFFT AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>> No.9309495

>>9309448
i will save her

>> No.9309644

>>9309448
A million fucking views? How did she lose a million views? She had a million views to lose?

>> No.9309724

>>9309644
check poi, she basically removed any old stream

>> No.9309807

>>9309200
>implying poors can even compete now

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>310 users
nasfaq... is alive...

>> No.9311189

>>9311086
>Everyone panic-selling.
You fight hardest just before you die.

>> No.9311410

>>9302963
fuck off zhonk

>> No.9311476

>>9311086
all me.

>> No.9312759
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9312759

Every sell you make you will regret it tomorrow when you have to pay a fee to buy it again.
Sell now, or hold? Time for indecision is over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FpRjVPMOoM

Past the point of no return
The final threshold
The bridge is crossed, so stand and watch it burn
We've passed the point of no return

>> No.9313022
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HONK DON'T CHANGE ADJUSTMENT TIME I'M NOT A NEET I HAVE STUFF TO DO AT 2PM, THE CURRENT TIME OF 10PM IS PERFECT

>> No.9313118

>>9302963
>Multicoin
Are you implementing a hardcap of how many you can trade per day?
>Asset tiers
Is anyone going to use this?
>Oshi assets
Is anyone going to use this?
>1am
Randomize it to be anywhere from midnight to 9:05am if you want to shake things up. Have it change daily.
>Divvy formula
Sure, sound good.
>Gacha items/hats
Would definitely be welcome.
>Trading licences
The most interesting thing here. How are these going to work, or will there be further changes to the market before these get added?
>Holostates
You'd be better off just making another game for this. How does this tie into a stock market simulator?

>> No.9313141

>>9313118
>Randomize it to be anywhere from midnight to 9:05am if you want to shake things up
holy based

>> No.9313411

>>9312759
A 10% fee wont really hurt especially when a coin like Botan would drop around 2k

>> No.9313463

>>9313411
most coins don't adjust up by more than 10%

>> No.9313494
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9313494

>>9312759
I've already sealed my fate

The bridges are burning, the heat's on my face
Making the past an unreachable place
Pouring the fuel, fanning the flames
I know, this is the point of no return

>> No.9313661

>>9313463
nigga just dont buy at peak. Is that really hard to do?

>> No.9313719

>>9313661
most coins don't dip more than 10%

>> No.9313769

>>9313719
nigga just dont buy at dip. Is that really hard to do?

>> No.9313867

Honk should also impose a 10% sales tax while she's at it

>> No.9314166

>>9313719
math reps retard

>> No.9314386
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9314386

I have now became the Warden of Time and Sex. I wonder how much I would get fucked later

>> No.9314431

>>9314386
keep buying just to see what happens

>> No.9314516

>>9314166
>coin dips 5%
>buy it until it gets to a 0% change
>people pump it by more 2%
>it goes up by 3% on adjustments
now you choose if you want to sell at loss or watch your networth decrease from people selling

>> No.9314540 [SPOILER] 
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9314540

if you buy, the coin price goes up so buying increases the value of all your coins you may own. While selling lowers the price, causing all the coins you own to be worth less.
Thus, why would you ever sell coins?

>> No.9314633

>>9314516
5% is 0.5%. do the math

>> No.9314641

>>9314540
have you ever heard the tale of Financivial?

>> No.9314703

>>9314641
I've heard rumors

>> No.9314717

>>9314633
you MMPP (moving medium purcchase price) says you lose 2.5%

>> No.9314808

>>9314717
my dick says open your mouth

>> No.9314809

>>9314717
moving mpp would also be 1/10 not 1/4 you moron

>> No.9314954

>>9314809
bro your reading reps

>> No.9315010

>>9314954
what I said is a fact it's a 1/10 loss

>> No.9315297

I hate seanigger hours

>> No.9315318

>>9315297
seaniggers dont play this game

>> No.9315339

>>9315318
>he lacks critical information

>> No.9315351

>>9302963
not sure about multicoining but changing adjustment time back to the old one and new divvy formula seem good.

>> No.9315377
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9315377

>>9315339
any proofs? It's not like the leaderboard is filled with active seaniggers anyway. I really doubt it

>> No.9315393

>>9315377
The #1 player in the entire game is a SEA.

>> No.9315427

>>9315393
I really doubt it

>> No.9315451

>>9315427
>he legitimately doesn't know

>> No.9315455
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9315455

>>9315427
have the top 5 is sea you dumb nigger

>> No.9315465

>>9315377
>no one told him

>> No.9315492

>>9302963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE1ubvzM4Es
give her an IPO

>> No.9315515
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9315515

>still no proofs
you guys aren't even trying

>> No.9315535

>>9315515
do your archive reps

>> No.9315538

>>9306521
You do realize most of these suggestions are just player suggestions, right? You are making it seem like players know whats good for them or the game either. 99.99999% of us here wouldn't be able to do any better because balancing a game is really fucking hard.

>> No.9315539

>>9315377
most of the top 20 are from SEA. proof? Aggie.

>> No.9315545

>>9315515
>he doesnt know of the absolute legend himself
cringe, ngmi

>> No.9315552

>>9315377
there was no autotrader on the old adjustment time, only sea, aussies an japanese could profit. Thats why most o the top 30 is from one of those places

>> No.9315583

>>9315538
I also like it that he didnt point out what the shitty suggestion and gave a "better one"

>> No.9315600

>>9306410
based

>> No.9315602
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9315602

>>9281021

>> No.9315615

>>9315377
did you forget about photocopied sea dick?

>> No.9315638

Now that i think about it, the devs are asking for opinions, maybe the folks who think the suggestions are shit should give a counter suggestion, not just a "nobody will use this feature"

>> No.9315688

>>9315377
They're not seaniggers but did you know that 3 people in the top 10, previously top 5, are confirmed Australian?

>> No.9315731
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9315731

>>9315515
>you guys aren't even trying
Are you?

>> No.9315787

>>9315688
I assume its konnui,

>> No.9315793

>>9315638
That's clearly what they are doing. They've always been receptive to people giving actual counter suggestions or reasoning to these sort of posts. Just saying its shit or fuck you won't do anything.

>> No.9315856

>>9315688
>Top of the leaderboard are skewed towards timezones where current adjustment time is favorable
Gee, I wonder why

>> No.9315893

>>9315455
>esl calling out niggers about SEAnigs
strange times we live in

>> No.9315907

>>9315856
>current adjustment time
>favorable to australians

>> No.9315933
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9315933

divegrass victory anthem now feat. Takeshi

>> No.9316012

>>9315933
needs to be a gif I think? it's just looping the sound with the webm

>> No.9316029

>>9316012
get a better sounds player anon

>> No.9316061

>>9316012
If you're using https://github.com/rcc11/4chan-sounds-player/releases and you should be, the others are abandonware
Settings -> Playback -> scroll down to "Inline Player" -> Master Source -> Audio

>> No.9316149

>>9316061
sounds player was disabled and external sounds (which I thought I'd deleted) was running instead. weird.

>> No.9317719

So when do the updates hit

>> No.9317949
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9317949

I just realized the 10% fee will kill my daytrade advantage.

>> No.9318200

>>9317949
fucking retard if you lose any advantage because of this you deserve to fucking die. uninstall your browser and eat shit

>> No.9318228

>>9318200
wow, is just game. Why you heff to be mad

>> No.9318281

>>9318200
post wallet

>> No.9318381

>>9318228
>>9318281
i'm sick of retards ruining the game. 10% is fucking nothing. 10% tax won't kill a 10% dip. fucking retards

>> No.9318414

>>9318381
>no wallet
Ok poorfag

>> No.9318445

>>9318381
>retards ruining the game.
Ironic.

>> No.9318457

>>9317949
When I was poor, my money increased at least 30% per day just by daytrading. You will still gain 20% from daytrading.

>> No.9318459

>>9318381
I think the only retard ruining the game is you with all those negative vibes.
You should chill out for a bit, maybe buy some Towa to calm your nerves

>> No.9318481

>>9318381
But it will kill a 9% dip, stay poor

>> No.9318516

10% transaction fees is piss change. Stop being poor

>> No.9318530

>>9318481
no it won't you fucking retard

>> No.9318563

>>9318530
yes it will you fucking retard

>> No.9318594

The end of an era

>> No.9318596

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.9318600
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9318600

huh

>> No.9318615

Someone plz post the Luna webm

>> No.9318617

>>9318563
shut the fuck up you negroball you don't know what you're talking about people will buy that shit up regardless fucking poorfag killyourself FUCKING KILL YOUR SELF YOURSELF

>> No.9318628

>>9318381
post dick

>> No.9318639
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9318639

>>9318615

>> No.9318651

>>9318617
and your wallet? Still waiting

>> No.9318708

>>9318639
ty very much.

>> No.9318747
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9318747

hodlchads how are we doing today

>> No.9318750
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9318750

>>9318617

>> No.9318754

>>9318617
cringe.

>> No.9318777

>>9318651
i'm not obligated to show you my wallet you fucking asswipe

>> No.9318813

>>9318777
It's ok to be poor anon, no reason to be embarrassed.

>> No.9318823
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9318823

You're welcome, fucker

>> No.9318834

am I getting taxed?

>> No.9318836

>>9318747
>>9318823
where is this

>> No.9318859

>>9318836
dunno if you have to but I hard refreshed then its in the autotrader window

>> No.9318872
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9318872

Reminder to donate to your oshi if you don’t want to pay broker’s fee

>> No.9318912

I there somewhere in the UI where I can check my superchat fee credit?

>> No.9318928

Good morning, I am buying Towa.

>> No.9318946

>>9318859
ah yeah duno why I didn't hard refresh thanks

>> No.9318995
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9318995

who is that angry bastard and why's he always posting around this time? take your meds
here's No Tengo Dinero cut for divegrass purposes as well. loose change drops at the beginning, then it's all chorus until the end.

>> No.9319003

>superchat Oshi
>still get charged broker fees
HOOOOOOOOONK!

>> No.9319020

>>9319003
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONK YOU SON OF A BITCH

>> No.9319038
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9319038

Why do I need to know this number?

>> No.9319058

>>9319003
I don’t get charged at all

>> No.9319074

>>9319058
you only get charged to buy

>> No.9319098

>>9318928
No. I'm buying Towa.

>> No.9319103

>>9319074
I did press buy

>> No.9319108
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9319108

>>9319038
"see? It's working against inflation already!"
I mean someone would've asked anyways, why not.

>> No.9319136

>>9319108
Oh, it's just an FYI thing then? Cool I guess.

>> No.9319163

The market is saved. Thanks Honk you lovely son of a bitch.

>> No.9319164

>>9319098
No you're not. I'm buying Towa.

>> No.9319166
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9319166

honk you nigger

>> No.9319181

>>9319108
>I mean someone would've asked anyways
I asked for it >>9223599

>> No.9319203

>>9319098
>>9319164
Can't we be friends and buy Towa together?

>> No.9319220

>>9319164
>>9319203
Only if he's a kenzoku.

>> No.9319234
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9319234

>>9319181

>> No.9319238

>>9319203
No. Only I can buy Towa.

>> No.9319289

Shit, they didn’t show us how much superchat balance we have left after trading coins.

>> No.9319315
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9319315

I finally managed to send a supa but I'm still getting charged broker fees

>> No.9319318

My autotrader is down. Anyone else?

>> No.9319332

>>9319289
all of it, the broker is still getting paid.

>> No.9319334

>>9319318
works on my machine

>> No.9319354
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9319354

>>9319318
Uhhh, anyone else have this problem?

>> No.9319377

>>9319332
That would decrease until 0 after enough trading and then we have to pay the broker, no?

>> No.9319380

>>9319354
seems like you are trying to buy Polka.

>> No.9319381
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9319381

>1 million already gone
>it hasn't even been 3 cycles

>> No.9319383

I cant even supacha

>> No.9319422

>>9319381
Literally 2% me.

>> No.9319423

>>9319377
if it was working, yes.

>> No.9319424

Sent a few superchats and only one went through, but it took money from a few of them.

>> No.9319431

honk why no show credits

>> No.9319445
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9319445

Why does the broker hate me?

>> No.9319450

>>9319423
It works for me

>> No.9319456

>>9319431
he forgot to add them

>> No.9319455

>>9319431
the credits are a lie. it was all a ruse to make us use the feature they worked so hard on that got ignored.

>> No.9319464

>>9319431
>>9319289
>>9318912
Honk, onegai.

>> No.9319503
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9319503

>>9319238
Settle down son. We are all buying Towa here.

>> No.9319514
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9319514

honk you nigger I can't send superchats

>> No.9319558

>>9319445
>buying calli
>selling kiara.

>> No.9319578

Hey wait a minute, 10% broker fees is like too big. How about 5%?

>> No.9319609
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9319609

Hi-
I'm sorry, I've discovered a small bug that's causing the superchat issue. Gomen dogeza etc, I'm fixing it as we speak.

>> No.9319615
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9319615

>>9319558
Hey man, I don't judge your trades.

>> No.9319617

>>9319609
SHOW ME MY CREDITS YOU FUCK

>> No.9319623

>>9319578
It will probably get adjusted later

>> No.9319627
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9319627

>I have to donate $10,000 for every 10 coins valued $10,000 each
What the fuck? This is fucking brutal. Fuck you honk. Cut it down.

>> No.9319653
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9319653

>>9319617
Yes I can add that

>> No.9319666

Tax should be based on net worth. Rich pay 10% and the poor pay 5%

>> No.9319678
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>>9319609
well, that was fast

>> No.9319724
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9319724

>>9319609
honk I got charged for superchats that didn't go through. multiple times.

>> No.9319727

>>9319609
I can't send superchats, do you know what is happening?

>> No.9319749

>>9319727
Yes, please be patient as I fix it.

>> No.9319801

>>9319749
honk, i sent a 100m supa that didnt go through, please refund.

>> No.9319803

Holy shit this broker shit is going to kill daytrading. Im paying 2k worth of liquid in every coin I buy

>> No.9319822
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>>9319615
Gonna need you to pick up the pace soon.

>> No.9319827
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9319827

>>9319678

>> No.9319831
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9319831

For now, refrain from sending superchats as they won't count towards your credits.
I will manually give everyone who already bought superchats after the update their credits.

>> No.9319846
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9319846

I supa'd a full lambo, lost the liquid but it didn't go through. Fuck.

>> No.9319856
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9319856

>>9319831

>> No.9319858

>>9319678
this is the greatest lie in ages

>> No.9319867
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9319867

>>9319578
what about this
so we know cypher is roughly 3% of the market volume, let's go with rough estimates and put total market volume around $35,000,000,000
$1,000 would be 0.00000285714% of that, and we base all the fees around that number. It would start out the same 10% BUT since we base it on the total market volume, taxes should shrink the more the playerbase trades IF total market volume goes down.

>> No.9319876

>>9319831
My supa went trought, thanks
don't need to give me credits I'm big plans and I don't need the money

>> No.9319877

>>9319831
HOOOOOONK

>> No.9319887

>>9319831
>>9319846
h-h-honk onegai...

>> No.9319890

>>9319678
YOU FUCKER I JUST WASTED A SC FOR NOTHING

>> No.9319894
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9319894

>>9319831
Can you actually see the "failed" superchats that were charged but didn't show up on the supa page? like me and this guy >>9319846

>> No.9319933
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9319933

>>9319831
>haatons code like pigs

>> No.9319936

>>9319894
He can check my networth. I lost 1Mil without using gacha.

>> No.9319943

>>9319867
Gura would never dip below 10k

>> No.9319949
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9319949

>>9319678

>> No.9320124
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9320124

>>9319943
it would obviously have a multiplier, but instead of you just paying 10% in all cases, it would be multiples of that "Market Volume Constant" (MVC)
so Gura right now is $35,086.61 which means her tax would be 3.508661*0.00000285714% of total market volume, which would right mow come out as $3,5k BUT once Market volume goes down and if she stays stable, it'll decrease the taxes. the change would be barely noticable but the tax would float directly against total market volume, being both a decent indicator of how much we inflate as well as the countermeasure.

>> No.9320253

Shouldn't taxes be a percentage of what you earn? As in if you buy at 100 an sell at 110 you get taxed over the 10 profit?

>> No.9320293

>>9320253
that's going to be difficult to track

>> No.9320303
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9320303

>>9320253
that'd require us to bind coins you buy directly to their purchase price, a thing the game doesn't do currently, actually requiring MAJOR refactoring because you'd have to track all that shit.

>> No.9320305

Ok, it should be fixed now. If you have a superchat in the feed between 1:00am and 1:46, I'm going to give you the credits back. Don't change your username or you won't get the credits.

>> No.9320324

>>9320305
I’m changing my username

>> No.9320334

>>9320305
Where does it show our credits?

>> No.9320342

>>9320305
Mrs. honk what about the superchats that were lost in the void?

>> No.9320354
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9320354

>>9320253
Yeah, I suggested a capital gains tax. Deaf ears.
>>9320293
>>9320303
Not really. Track the sale price vs. the prior day's market open price.

>> No.9320355

>>9320253
>>9320293
>>9320303
As in buying coins should give you a % of their value in broker fee credit, same as the broker fee %. If you sell higher than you brought you will be paying liquid.

>> No.9320371

>>9319678
It might have been short lived but this has probably been the best FUD I've seen in a while, short, fast and makes people lose money, incredible display of skill.

>> No.9320376
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9320376

>>9320305
>If you have a superchat in the feed between 1:00am and 1:46, I'm going to give you the credits back
Several of us sent superchats the kept spitting out "Invalid Superchat", taking the money into the void and doing nothing with it.

>> No.9320394

>>9320376
working as intended, please understand

>> No.9320398

>>9320371
And I mean, you pay the broker when you sell and get credit when you buy.

>> No.9320410

>>9320305
>Don't change your username or you won't get the credits.
Are you not going to change this bad implementation of it?

>> No.9320434

honk just show me my fucking credits

>> No.9320435

>>9320398
Meant for >>9320355

>> No.9320503
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9320503

The broker has earned enough to be ranked in the top 500.

>> No.9320526

It's still not letting me send them. I'm not pissing away any more money on this.

>> No.9320535
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9320535

>>9320503
all me

>> No.9320584

>>9320355
wait, this actually sounds like a plausible implementation...
where were you last week?

>> No.9320590

>>9320503
>2 million is top 500

>> No.9320602
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9320602

>>9320535
all me

>> No.9320662

>send $10k superchat
>only click send once
>wait
>wait
>wait
>hard refresh nasfaq in the next window
>I am out $10k
>no superchat sent
>nothing in the feed
Honk you owe me a fucking lambo this happened like ten times tonight.

>> No.9320676
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9320676

wtf!!!!

>> No.9320698

>>9320584
You think? That's more or less how VAT works.
The threads were such a shitfest that I just didn't bother.

>> No.9320732
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>hey guys it's fixed
>try $1 supa to test
>works
>send 400k supa
>doesn't work
>try $1 supa again
>works
I'm down 1.4m this is worse than gacha.

>> No.9320757

the amount I've paid to the broker isn't updating

>> No.9320800

honk show me my credits or perish

>> No.9320826

>>9320698
it's easy to implement and does what other anons have been proposing here regarding tax deductions. like >2211 on floor

>> No.9320925
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heads up, new OP's rea-- eh.
NEW THREAD
>>9320897
>>9320897
>>9320897
nothin' personell, honkchama, just banter.

>> No.9320929
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Goodnight nasfaq, see you at adjustments.

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>>9319831
this is still broken
02:11:38.728
Error: SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 1 column 1 of the JSON data 3 SuperchatInput.tsx:236:20
sendSuperchat SuperchatInput.tsx:236
02:13:00.205
XHRPOSThttps://nasfaq.biz/api/buySuperchat/
[HTTP/1.1 502 Bad Gateway 190ms]
02:13:00.424
Error: SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 1 column 1 of the JSON data SuperchatInput.tsx:236:20
02:13:01.385
XHRGEThttps://nasfaq.biz/socket/?user=me=4&transport=polling&t=
[HTTP/1.1 502 Bad Gateway 20ms]

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>>9320929
see ya Polka

>> No.9321147

>>9320303
tie it to mpp

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>>9320929

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>>9320929
oyapol as well, see everyone on the other side

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>>9321233
stop it

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cute fren

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no image

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>>9322089

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>>9322104

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