/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>92166410
The hat is off, you should be ashamed of yourself.

I want cute cathacker to appear under my Christmas tree on the 25th.

>>92166472
the tail knocked it off a bit gomen

Squishing my ducktective

now I’m no expert but her tweets don’t really bode well for her continued existence in Pixel Link…

In love with my bunny wife!

>>92166568
Even if she cheaps out on rigging, I hope she gets a decent mama. The rat was rough.

>>92166568
reminder that you should learn how to read

>>92166568
there's like eleventy girls living double lives at this point

>>92166568
Idk still seems like a buyout to me. All the Idol girls started building up alts ahead of their announcement as well.

>>92166568
if the “I hope you find me” tweet didn’t set off alarm bells for people than I don’t what will

>>92166718
Explain how a buyout means that all events get canceled

>>92166568
At this point, I can't tell if I'm grieving or being a dramafag, but even if we lose /pxl/, it sounds like the girls will be around. Chiaki said she'll see us next year. Kanna is planning things out until March. Rebbi has a model in the works. Whatever happens, it feels like we won't lose our oshis forever.

While we have PixelLink, let's not mourn it. Let's celebrate!

>>92166773
they were acquired by an ascetic sect that despises holidays. expect content to shift towards deprivation of pleasure and ego death.

>>92166718
menace did this

I for one, will NOT be following any of them, if they bail out just because a change in management.

>>92166773
>fatcat sells the company
>doesnt tell anyone until now
>girls collectively cancel everything to work things out behind the scenes
>prep exit strategies in case things dont work out

>>92166919
>girls collectively cancel everything
But if you actually watched streams you'd know that they're streaming on those days anyway

>>92166889
ok

Chio :'(

>>92166919
he's been wildly wrong at least once before
might have thought it'd be a happy thing and then... well...

>>92166952
They dont want us to doom harder than we have been.

>>92167097
Retarded

Chiaki's laugh gives me life

LOTTIE LOTTIE NIGHTO FEVOR

>>92166952
Yeah but they aren't doing the merch shilling event. Regular streaming still benefits them.

>>92167252
>merch shilling event
Oh yeah, the random questions quiz that's hosted on Kanna's channel is a merch shilling event. Retard

>>92166977
Fuck fatcat for ruining her favorite holiday

Here, have a comfy thread theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue5OgiUists

I like our normal dumb autists more than these retarded ones

Merry Christmas eve /pxl/! Sorry to hear things are rough right now but I'm sure everything will work out. Just make sure to cherish your girls and send them nice maros.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX8Vvag0ToI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX8Vvag0ToI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX8Vvag0ToI
KANNA LIVE

>>92167401
Didn't moo
Fake minimoo

I'm in love with a raccoon.

merry christmas eve /pxl/ I'll ask santa to make sure these girls make it through their corpo dying.
you guys are alright

>>92167525
Oh um, moo~

https://x.com/RakiKazuki/status/1871606469793308772

>>92167736
Is this how I buy Raki Kazuki?

>>92167683
Love to see it

>>92167401
>>92167669
Don't worry mini moo and fanpire, it's just a nothingburger. But thanks for the support and the Christmas wishes

>>92166651
https://x.com/RhymeTheKani/status/1871440000455499915

>>92166568
I am retarded but that's notchio correct?

>>92167884
Uoh

>>92167909
Incorrect.

>>92167909
No, you're just retarded

>>92167909
That's Wisu

>>92166845
Semi-antisemitic post (￢‿￢ )

>Chiaki angrily standing in the corner making Phoenix Wright faces as her Latino family celebrates Christmas on the 24th

>>92167909
>>92167949
Good to know I'm retarded can a non retarded perhaps help a retard?

>>92167894
Watch out, Jelly may try to steal you meat.

kanna kills everything she touches (by giving it too much water)

What the fuck Kanna...

I gave personalized Christmas messages to some of our friends
>>92164161
>>92164361
>>92165268
>>92165573

>>92168279
Youtube is shutting her down for that

>>92168322
Thank you, anon, very cool.

>>92168322
Cute festive Katsudon

>>92168322
Spreading the Christmas cheer

>>92166568
Nothing will happen, girls will just double dip now, it's the meta

Who is Jul and why is he God

>>92168322
Thats nice of you Katsu

>>92168683
Thats what the kids are smoking these days

>>92168683
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule

>>92168322
>no /v4m/

>>92168832
of course a kouhai would be the one crying

>>92168832
I will not be tempted by this semen demon.

Kanna...

How does Kanna even manage that... like what the fuck

>>92168832
I don't know enough about them to make a personalized message, but I made another one for /pkg/ >>92169218

I want to trust Kanna but ignoring everyone else is uhhh... Also them being treated well doesn't mean much, kawaii's last months were easily its best, not just because of the last gen

Raki will be sex

>>92169343
If anything theyve set up a lot of karaoke relays our girls have been in

>>92169355
She never said that everything would be ok

>Kanna how do kamos reproduce?

>>92169368
Raki Christmas sex

>>92168322
you hate us...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgW-h4OU3KM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgW-h4OU3KM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgW-h4OU3KM
CHIAKI LIVE

FELIZ NAVIDAD FROM /TSUNX/ PIXELFRIENDS, ALL THE BEST

>>92167295
You know nothing but are still so confident

>>92169617
You realize that it was a sequel to something that was already streamed, right? Watch streams if you're going to act smug

>>92169355
>>92169399
True, but it seems she's making plans out to March. That at least feels more promising.

>>92168832
Trying to win this thread's favor with male collabers is not the best move

>>92169507
you deserve it
and like it

Chiaki is so cute

>>92169545
Thanks! I thought it was later today.

>>92169605
Merry Christmas grandpa

Man I'm jumping between four Christmas singing streams. Feel spoiled.

>>92169861
I wish they streamed past 2am today. Almost everything is over by now.

https://x.com/ArisuOshiro/status/1871619697894146262

https://x.com/RakiKazuki/status/1871620202418651270

https://x.com/RakiKazuki/status/1871620202418651270
Raki got her children's meal

Blow gameplay

>>92169689
maybe from you~

>>92170333
Uoh?

>>92169409
She lays eggs and one kamo cums on them

>>92170401
Then how did the first Kamo come to be...

Feliz Navidad

>>92170419
That's forbidden knowledge

>>92170419
dont ask questions you dont want to know the answer to

>>92170419
I am your father.

Chiaki city pop

https://x.com/RakiKazuki/status/1871622971670057195
Raki and cat

Merry Christmas, staff

https://x.com/LottieShinju/status/1871624358751506508

>>92170697
thanks

Ragi DM'd Poko this

>>92170500
That is beautiful!

>>92170647
Adorable
https://litter.catbox.moe/9oigyo.mp4

https://x.com/LottieShinju/status/1871625143983976930
Cute lotl

>>92170222
/pkg/ finally fixed our name in their OP, it's a Christmas miracle

>>92170935
All me.

>>92170935
no promises it'll stay fixed but we'll give it a try the schizo is actually just the Grinch because even on the holiday he is schizo'ing out

https://x.com/DaiyaFortuna/status/1871627267455287495
awooga

>>92170796
Sex with racoons

https://x.com/DaiyaFortuna/status/1871627267455287495

>>92170286
Is the pixel deficit in this Twit meaningful?

>>92170967
Don't worry about it, we both have problems with schizos

>>92171280
Sorry, for some reason Tenor fucks the resolution of GIFs, it also happened with Chiaki's ones

>>92170796
do cute

>>92171372
They look fine on discord not sure how twitter fucks them so badly

kek Kanna

Chiacute!

>>92171838
This is making me sad to look at now...

shimapan

>>92172140
Chiaki picked a bunch of wintery songs and they turned out to be sad songs

>last cup of coffee
Don't do this to me...

chiakita is nowhere near sovl level what are these fags going on about

>>92172579
yep. ;_;

>>92172579
Sorry man, the knife is already there, why not twist it a little

have faith

Kanna's greatest enemy...

My oshi kissed me on christmas eve... I'm winning

Good luck on your trip, Chiaki

Please just let them keep their model rights

>>92173719
No can do, I minced them to make some burgers.

https://x.com/LottieShinju/status/1871644674253074873

>>92171838
NNNOOOOO

>>92174819
I love this silly aquatic creature so gosh dang much

>>92171838
I will save the little Chio slime if it's the last thing I do

the jar...

>>92176229
The yar

>>92176073
On brand for the retard who deleted her own channel, kek

>>92176523
Very

>>92176073
>>92176618
That's funny tho

Yena is chatmaxxing. I'm seeing her right now on Poko's chat

>>92176887
I always found that behavior kinda annoying and insincere

>>92177063
no u

>>92177063
Miunny...

>>92177103
like they just appear in chat to shill themselves

>>92177063
It is a bit annoying when they hang around for a long time and have conversations with the streamer - like, you are in their DMs, you got to take away time from chat too?

>>92177063
It's only annoying if they stay in chat and post during the whole stream because it takes attention away from the rest of the chat and the host kinda has to read their messages every time lest they "ignore" another streamer. Kanna's lurking until she is mentioned is a nice alternative.

>>92177212
I hope this isn't serious

>>92177244
>>92177212
yeah I guess I'm being a bit schizoid

>>92177284
I think it's just more noticeable since Pixel has silent mods so that every time a wrenched person posts, everyone in chat gets distracted

>>92177284
I know it is disappointing, but I am serious.

>>92176887
>>92177063
Hold on, let me clarify. I mean to say that she was on 2 chats at the same time but I checked to be sure, and she moved from Kanna's to Poko's. Also she's not chatting that much. Sorry for causing drama

>>92177541
It's okay I want Yena to crush my head between her thighs

>>92177541
its cute that you think this is the drama right now but all the same I think its kind of you to say so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvI_FNrczzQ

>>92177063
>>92177212
>>92177244
>>92177490
Based
>>92177284
>>92177103
Gay. Granted it's only annoying when they try to monopolize the streamer's attention for an extended amount of time

kamo whales

>>92179254
Probably not the best idea to drop it right now, but I digress

>>92179408
Oof, corpo cuts...

Kanna gone...

In 2 or 3 hours we get to see Kanna playing minecraft with Pogo wish I could watch it...

>>92174819
https://x.com/study666i/status/1871196784888082537
Imagine this but with Lads and Lottie

What if I cum inside lottie

Id throw everything I have away to take care of a sick Raki on Christmas Eve

>>92180376
that would be pretty silly lad, because you havent beaten her at hand to hand combat yet

>>92169343 (Me)
And another one for /fpspec/, I think that's it for this year >>92182166

Fuck this shit my Christmas is ruined if my oshi can't be happy. Dropping whatever news it was at this time is fucking evil

Sex
https://x.com/illustsaboko/status/1869589239379456208

>>92166568
Lottie will be sacrificed to the salamander gods.

>>92182830
Axe a lotl.

>>92182388
A lot of businesses do this unfortunately because it's the end of their fiscal year and they usually have to make their finances balanced or black hence one of the meanings behind Black Friday where businesses are trying to do a last minute push with a blowout sale. This means usually that a last resort or attempt to do this will result in people getting laid off or having the business closed in the worst case because things don't work out. It's somewhat bad optics so some businesses have shifted to moving their financial calendar by several months so end of the financial year is in the spring or summer instead.

Raki love always

>>92183259
>hey bro you got laid off but it's may 24th, why don't you go on a heckin vacation?
So generous!

>>92183908
womp womp

Has Chio ever sing Loli God Requiem?

What the hell happened over here

>>92183877
Raki love forever

>>92184137
Well you see it all begins in 2014 when my mom stole 12000 dollars from my college account, causing me to graduate several semesters late.

>>92184199
O-oh heavens

>>92184137
Sex with Ducks

>>92183259
The more that's said, the feels more like some are being let go more than Pixel collapsing, at least immediately. Two girls have talked about "next year," but I guess we'll see in JAN.

i subscribe to the rrat that chio gets the boot because she keeps sponsorships away by being a degen loli

https://x.com/KannaPixelLink/status/1871697366019113235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPqEDGvgRoM

>>92184381
yeah

>>92184447
I doubt Raki would be dooming so hard if it was just about Chio

>>92184447
>>92184532
becoming /pxl+/ wouldn't be as bad as /pxlx/

>>92184447
Since when do we have sponsors?

>>92184447
Yuko got sponsors and she drank piss on stream

>>92184577
It would be worse because neblings would force their whore.

>>92184515
It's overlapping the gunpla building... Shouldn't she schedule it at the end of the day so she can raid into it

>>92184577
Just don't change the thread name.

>>92184664
do any of them still even exist

say "Cheese," we're about to be screenshotted and posted

>>92184447
Chio's fine, she just freaks out over stuff.

>>92184797
It's like that movie revenge of the sith, but with worshipers of an ewhore instead of a cult.

>>92184532
Not to reopen a can of worms, but how do you find notRaki's account? I'm not a Trashpan, but I've seen mention of this account for a while. Not looking for hints, but do you just listen to all inactive vtubers until you recognize the voice?

>>92184965
I knew her and Ayu were longtime friends

>>92184965
the twitter is private now so it doesn't matter if you find it or not

>>92183259
If they are short on money why don't they do a donothon to save the company? It always works in movies, especially around Christmas time.

>>92184965
yeah by going to their youtube channel, if there isn't anything there then there's something in their media tab, notRaki was found by following other accounts that had a connection with ragi, namely ayu and wani

>>92185086
>>92185099
o7

>>92184797
I wonder if her husband still thinks of himself as a nebling

>im not a fan of the girl but spoonfeed me how to find their PLs
>fags line up to give hints

>>92185542
He has been replying to himself since yesterday. The most embarrassing part is when he makes long posts

>>92184577
/pXl/

>>92185542
it's cool. i'm to retarded to use hints.

Bros, what if we do like a flashback special? Do you have any old stream captures? This is a drawing Chiaki made irl

>>92185779
here's Lottie being Lottie

Fatcat probably should have just done donothons desu. Should also have been a red flag that they were too financially strained to run a fucking discord.

>>92185086
that’s new, within the last couple hours at least

>>92184965
I found notraki when she or twitter screwed up and she posted a voice tweet as raki but the recording had her alt's PFP. It was deleted in a minute

>>92186081
Maybe the girls did overreact if she's trying to prevent panic follows. That or things are worse than ever and she wants to vent where management and drama sloppers can't see it.

If worse comes to worst, any of the girls who want to be found will make themselves obvious, and all their twitter friends will shill them too. I just really hope they all want to be found

>>92186341
they do, but not by (You)

Merry Christmas from /mint/ (even though I think like half of you are in both threads already anyway)! I know things seem grim right now, but stay strong for your oshi and everything will be okay.

>>92186503
Cute anon love

>>92186503
Cute. Mint is an inspiration in times like these. Happy holidays to you too.

>>92186162
>Maybe the girls did overreact
I think lowkey they are all realizing that now, Daiya and Raki at least

>>92186901
>Daiya
She has done literally fucking nothing?

Ace can't ever stop being an autistic retard

merry christmas from /vrex/, pixel friends! i dont think anyone has came to say it yet
i don't know the full situation of what's going on but from what i gather things seem bleak but there's always light at the end of the tunnel having gone through this ourselves
hope you guys have a wonderful few days & new year, stay strong!

>>92186970
Do nothing, and nothing is left undone.

>>92187060
>i don't know the full situation
it's okay we don't either, Merry Christmas

>>92186970
uuuuuh sure, nothing

>>92186901
If that is the case, I sympathize. Holidays, being sick, and scary news is a terrible mix. Here's hoping this turns out ok and it makes us appreciate how special these girls are.

>>92187274
Yes, literally nothing

>>92187060
Thank you anon. The gay schizo erp posts on /vrex/ always gave me a chuckle

>>92187274
She's said the least out of anybody only behind Kanna who's quite literally said nothing

>>92187293
The whole "realizing they overreacted" thing doesn't make sense if they're still doomposting after privating

>>92187300
>>92187386
she also got in the alt craze

>>92187535
No she really didn't

>>92187302
>schizo erp
oh no, it's real, not rp

>>92187535
you wouldn't even know that existed if people weren't desperate to hunt them all down and then proceed to be complete fucking retards about it

>>92186503
>>92187060
Nothing is happening outside of a schizo fast descend into madness. Merry Christmas to you guys too

Holy...thank you Blair
https://x.com/LabriBlair/status/1871595455110652390

>>92187629
>all the alts started replying to each other, following each other both on alt on main and retweeting each other
>wtf why did you go hunting down the alts like a fucking schizo
what are we doing here, memoryholing the whole deal?

>>92187386
Actions speak louder than words

If it all does go to hell, I hope Miuna finishes school, gets married, has a family, and lives a happy life.

>>92187946
alternate timeline anon...
let's get you home

If PixelLink collapses and they can't keep their models, I will follow Chiaki in whatever new guise she is in

>>92187949
They really don't

>>92188018
with you?

Chio community post

>>92187727
the amphibian got exposed to radiation and grew scales...

>>92186503

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYH1Mg1B08g
SEX WITH SURI

>>92184447
Just get Azur Lane or BluAka sponsorship.

>>92188356
Anon wtf?! That was uncalled for

>>92188946
thats exactly what wisps want though

Poko is playing Minecraft with Kanna btw

>>92188100
Either PixelLink lives or not, Chiaki will change her model

>>92188946
Isn't there something missing in that image...

How tall is Miuna irl? I thought she was small but you guys said she wants a taller model

https://x.com/ArisuOshiro/status/1871715104099795195
Mountain of presents under the wisu family christmas tree

>>92190218
i'm ashamed i didn't notice until you pointed it out

i'm a fake kamo :(

>>92190218
she got human'd, sorgy

>>92190225
>How tall is Miuna irl?
Asian

>>92190531
Oh yeah, that makes sense

>>92190225
she's still small, just compare the portion of her meals. but she doesnt want a loli model

Kanna creating a lag machine on the vsmp...

>>92190654
but she doesn't have a loli model

>>92190969
Anon are we doing this again?

Can't believe the cost of the massive tits on Miuna's new model bankrupted pixel

I don't really feel like having sex with Suri today...

>>92191801
more for me

>>92191801
just imagine she's massaging you

I see Kanna Yanagi on Poko's stream. She is cute.

Kanna just said the exact same thing 2 times in a row...

>>92192117
yeyeye yeyeye

>>92192199
kek

>>92192069
yeah poko is like
>input keyword
and kanna is like
>infodumps about keyword for the next five minutes

>>92192117
Kanna rambles give me life

Listening to deep Moomin mug lore while my eardrums explode from fireworks...

Guys "Miuna" just all right confirmed pixelink is dissolving...

>>92192276
anyone got that sound post with Furi calling Kanna autistic

Lottie love!

>>92192614
Not the usual anon who posts it, but here

Cooking streams fill my heart with happy feelings

>>92192566
post proof or fuck off

>>92192566
“Miuna” hasn’t tweeted all day. Kill yourself faggot

>>92192404
I wasn't really a Kammo before this week, but after watching Kanna's streams the past two days, I'm in. Suddenly very glad I got her birthday card on a whim, and realizing I'm going to have to buy all 8 mini-standees when I get paid.

>>92193212
I wouldn't really call myself a Kamo but I respect the hell out of Kanna

>>92193137
Nta but she has

I am now deaf

>>92193295
Kanna reminds me of Dizzy from Phase, in that she really seems to understand the professionalism needed to be a success. Organizing Mario Kart and other events doesn't just happen.

kanna is smrt

>>92193493
Do not invoke that name, /tsunx/ will start their chuniposting

:(

>>92193732
did someone mention /tsunx/?

>>92193732
yeah yeah whatever I wanna have sex with dizzy

>>92192566
its locked too, how convenient

>>92194010
I wonder why

>>92192276
>infodumps about keyword for the next five minutes
I feel called out.

>>92190969
Miuna is a loli. I wouldn't find her so attractive otherwise

>>92194038
raki went from 2 followers a week to over a hundred in a couple days shits wild

>>92193665
So true

>>92193665
she's unironically a genius

We've reached food hours

>>92194101
12 points lower than the normal Internet user IQ of 147

>>92194070
kek some things never change
go ahead and orbit some girl all you want but the second you make a move on her inner circle you’re going to weird her out

even the captchas are getting grim

https://x.com/ArisuOshiro/status/1871741053688324211
wisu...

>>92194070
Seeing notLottie's followers go from 30 vtubers, 3 pans, and 1 lad to full of people who've never shown up in a stream was something.
I didn't want to realize that the average /vt/ poster is representative of the average vtuber 'fan.'
>captcha VT howdy

>>92194832
just mod a playstation tv and you don't have to worry about batteries leaking

>>92168832
Can't believe I forgot Miel is part of /v4m/, ain't no way >>92194799

Raki doko

>>92195113
it's okay I'm pretty sure they do sometimes too

>>92194944
Having just begun my descent into the next level of "not" accounts, I'm starting to question my ability to keep up with vtubing. This is a rabbit hole that has no visible end.

>>92195598
you can just watch streams
anything else happens of note, it'll get mentioned here

>>92194944
it's not just dramafags. a lot of people just only watch 1 or 2 of the girls in a general but feel the need to follow along with all of the discussion in it, so they follow every alt immediately, because if they don't and it gets privated then there's a good chance they'll see vagueposting in the thread and not know what it means, and then they'd have to sit there feeling left out

>>92194944
Well the more eyes on her the better

>>92195598
Some things aren't meant to be seen unless you're ready for it

Kanna gone...

>>92195598
ascend

>>92196220
As above, so below.

Who the fuck is the cat shrimp btw

>>92196371
wouldn't you like to know

>>92195598
I've seen your kind, time and time again.
Every fleeing man must be caught. Every secret must be unearthed.
Such is the conceit of the self-proclaimed seeker of truth.
But in the end, you lack the stomach.
For the agony you'll bring upon yourself

>>92196402

>>92196402
I would but I think she's just another of the PixelFriend extended universe, just like the Kara Wilderwood girl...

>>92196623
Did Kara only recently get added into the PixelFriend sphere? I feel like she never interacted with any of them before just a month or two ago

>>92195135
40 minutes hence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDUfFP2nddU

>>92196717
She literally only has the same artist as Daiya. That's it.

>>92196820
But even Pillow is replying to her stuff now

>>92196717
well she seems to have popped out of nowhere and right into the PixelFriend circle, check her whole feed

>>92196783
>>92195135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNLxJsBCKks&ab_channel=ayuch..

Ayu in 5 hours

>>92196820
She's been hanging out with Wani, Lillie, Piwwow, etc. the whole gang

>>92196948
Is she trying to stay up and see santa? That's so late

>>92194944
>I didn't want to realize that the average /vt/ poster is representative of the average vtuber 'fan.'
/vt/ domination
I have been a lottie member for over a year and never went looking for the forbidden knowledge though.

>>92192566
Dissolving pixelink's bodies in a vat of acid!

>>92196974
Actually yeah, idk if she deletes her tweets ever, but her first ever tweet was a retweet of Wani posting a pic of them together in VC

>>92196974
probably someone's old friend that they hooked into vtubing (or vtubing again) and got dragged in
it's never that complicated

>>92195598
There is no point because 9/10 times the cutest girl in the world will turn out to be an obese whore who shills for the worst leftist political causes and has sex with men (not you). It is easier to love the person she could have been, which is the anime girl persona, than to seek the real thing.

Wait, I just discovered who the cat shrimp is but...why a new persona?

>>92197167
Yeah this is kinda what I think, she must be loaded tho, if she got that mama

>>92197285
Nexas blew up and she wanted her own thing, not that she's losing much

>>92197285
it's early enough to shift gears without getting penalized too much and probably just wants something fully her own
girl shit

New bread >>92197485

>>92197359
Idk about that. Kamame has made like 25 models by now. I think the moms with fewer models would be more expensive than ones that make 10 models a year

>>92197429
>>92197442
Understandable, we will be watching

>>92197517
So are they cheap? I'm intrigued

>>92197673
Eh probably not cheap, but likely not on the higher end of model price either. It'd probably cost you a lot more if you wanted to be sisters with Kanna for example

>>92197517
some mamas just don't work with indies, irrespective of pricing, which greatly reduces their model amounts

>>92198076
>irrespective of pricing
You're telling me some JP schmuck would turn down 100k USD from some rich indie

>>92198295
Yeah, because some want to just be on the holo gravy train of being perpetually contracted to spit out an outfit once a year and not deal with multiple commissions.

>>92198810
Holo doesn't pay that much if they made 10 models a year. Let's be real here