/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>9209288
Autists have trouble with new things and change.

I like Hakoz and Sana but overall they are really disappointing. I really wanted to like them but they are just not entertaining

>>9209288
I don't actually hate any of them. I do join in as an anti when possible because it's fun. But overall, I think they're fine. Sana is actually my favorite and the one I hate the most. I wish she got better at physics.

>>9209288
Because they don't deserve the holo spot, they're all just average streamers. Kronii got $40k just for having a nice voice? Anyone would be in utter disbelief and it's clear she was in disbelief too, it's not like she really worked for it. You could say getting in there is an achievement but these 5 talents don't really convince me that the fight to get here was particularly arduous, everyone is run of the mill aside from sana being a big artist, does that mean that every other audition were even more mediocre than them?. With the rewards that they get from joining hololive, this should be a spot reserved for the cream of the crop of talents, it's simply dissapointing that these are the best they could get

>>9209288
Overhyped

>>9209288
I absolutely love EN2! I found my new favorite English Vtuber among them, and I think they're all pretty great, even if some of them stream at times that filter me or offer content that isn't always up my alley. Personally, I'm already having more fun with EN2 right now than I was at the same time from debut as Myth.

En2 got far more money invested in them and none of them have come through. Major frauds. No new viewers were gained, just leeching off the brand.

>>9209731
It is 100% Kronii got $40k. I don't think people will really fight against that. But on the other hand anon, that's just how shit goes sometimes. The main issue isn't that Kronos got $40k, the issue is that money would only ever go to a hololive girl. I don't wanna sound like a commie dipshit, but far too much resources are tied up in the big organizations. People shit on 2view indies but they probably might not ever see $40k before dropping. The money exists, and the more money indies / small corporate chuubas have access to the better the community will be.

>>9209893
they're getting the money back and more

>>9209288
I really enjoyed kronii's streams, I like the character she plays. Sana seems fun too, the rest is just feel like your average kawaii uwu girl

>>9209893
Remember. Our oshis not only covered signing bonus's, but also their base wage, model and rigging costs, manager pay, and all those braindead trailers. Let's not forget a commissioned artwork for a fucking spotlight stealing staff member.

>>9209288
I only hate Kiara, Idc about any of them.

>>9209288
NUMBERS NOT BIG
or
NUMBERS MORE BIG THAN MY OSI NUMBER

People generally like them. It's mostly just shitposting..

>>9209996
thats just how any industry with fame goes, the top performers way out perform the rest to an absurd degree

>>9209288
Dislike fake GFEtubers, strayan nigger, trying too hard and failing to fit shitty EN management lore but may get better, feel sorry for like she's always trembling when she streams, flower

>>9209288
God, I really wanted to like (your favs here) but they're so fucking boring and have so much dead air. Thank god I have (my favs here) that I can rely on. So I guess I'll be spending the rest of my life watching clips of (your favs here) and shitposting since I never watch streams

>>9209288
Because there's no reason to like them except "muh shiny new toys", which isn't enough of a reason to like them. None of them are special or do anything out of the ordinary. Sana is a good artist and...that's it. I'm baffled that these are the best they could get because they're all painfully average in every aspect.

>>9210457
Templates like that are forbidden

>>9209288
The general consensus is that they're a significant step up from EN1

>>9210429
See, I'm not disagreeing with that. But this is honestly unforgivable. This isn't some old money thing. It's literally just retards with cash going "I didn't know about this girl before, and although nothing has changed since she signed with hololive, I'm going to give her $45k". Like what the fuck?

I don't hate anyone, I'm just not interested. None of the designs clicked with me and the heavy lore is a turn off. Even so I still gave each debut like two minutes of my time and none of them hooked me. I already have plenty of vtubers to watch, I don't need to go looking for new ones anyway.

>>9210491
I still don't see anyone releasing a single song so they're a step down already (and one of the EN2s that will literally asked a EN1 for help)

>>9209288
Overhyped like crazy especially the chaos one. Only to find out that half of them are boring and they bring nothing new to the table

>>9210600
Mori cant play games. I'll take games over some shitty anime rap music with flash lights

>>9209288
I'm a rrat/time/space trinitychad tho

>>9210656
I'll concede on that, but EN2 has mumei who is mentally uncapable of doing literally anything. They're handicapped by one member already so EN1 still has the advantage

>>9209529
>I do join in as an anti when possible because it's fun.
Man that's weak willed. You know most of these girls casually browse here? How would you feel if someone dogpiled you just to make themselves feel better.

>>9210770
Anon, when I can make $45k just by talking to neemrds for two weeks, I'll let you know.

>>9209288
I'm thoroughly convinced that The only ones who hate EN2 are EN1fags (in this board at least), I strongly suspect that they still can't stand the fact that their fav chuubas have now become a "has been"

>>9209288
People mostly have an issue with Owl and nature girl because they're boring as fuck. We're still begging Nijisanji for a trade offer.

>>9210770
I assure you they'll be less bothered by the obvious shitposters shitting on them than the actual fans(?) posting "SEXXXXXXXXX" 500 times in a row in the actual fan generals

>>9210846
Retarded trade

>>9210846
Fuck those are some ugly eyes, the purple one I mean

>>9210839
I hate both EN1 and EN2
JP still holds nearly all the world records so don't even try to buzzword me

>>9210839
Meds

>>9210984
Selen would be shark killer status if she were in EN.

>>9210600
>muh songs
Hololive music is all mediocre anyway, the only reason people like it is because it features their favorite streaming anime girl and the EN1s are all awful streamers.

>>9211108
>nijis actually belive this
How would she mog gura huh? Another apex stream?

>>9211108
Maybe but I don't give a shit about the brand lmao. She fits in, makes a whole bunch of money, and is having fun where she is already.
>>9211115
EN music is mediocre. HoloJP has great music.

Not into tribalism but NijiEN got me really hyped about EN2, I thought "wow if Nijisanji can get these amazing girls I can't imagine the powerhouses HoloEN2 is going to get" but in the end they didn't, they are just average at best

>>9211108
> chink
Yea, no.

I'm /vt/ and I like EN2 the best.

>>9209288
Sorry, I was just hazing them a bit. I actually like them.

>>9209288
Theyre alright, they seem to have good chemistry

>>9210846
Why on earth would you want to trade off the best Council girls for those abominations? They’re pure, soft spoken diabetes in every stream.

>>9209352
Dont. . . why you gotta call me out like that?

>>9209288
Because the majority of /vt/ are gigantic faggots.

>>9210753
Except she's great at drawing, has an original song in the works and is one of the most successful and beloved members of her gen.
And if you watched her latest streams, you'd know that she's more talkative now (but still cute).

>>9210846
You think they're boring, at least.
Lots of people seem to like them, probably because they don't need nonstop loud talking to be entertained.

>>9209288
Kronii seems to have potential and has and amazing voice, but I wish she stopped doing accents. Her British accent is especially fucking awful.
Owl is clearly retarded and I don't know what she's doing there.
Sana seems alright, but she's not as smart as anon likes to make her out to be because her knowledge is pretty basic.
Rat is just Gura 2.
I haven't even seen antler bitch yet.

>>9210846
Why the hell would anyone trade for those literal whos on the right?

>>9209288
The only good EN vtuber is Selen, the rest are boring. If Selen had a Hololive tag she would be praised as the next Jesus Christ on this board.

alas. no tag so she must be bad.

Nobody cares about HoloEN now, people are now watching Vshojo

>>9209288
>boring
>shit design
>my nihongo isn't jouzu enough
>boring
>/ourgirl/ and great design but still boring
I've lost so much interest in vtubing as a result of EN2 that it resulted in a moment of pure ultra clarity. I even re-evaluated my backlog and cleared out a huge chunk of it just because watching it was as much of a slog as EN2. They're unironically a great inspiration for focusing on improving yourself and reorganizing your priorities.

>>9209288
No singer

>>9209288
new thing bad

>>9219231
Mumei is the singer of the gen

It’s very clear none of them watched Hololive before joining

>clipper sends rude and dox chats to Gura
>is banned
>Bae reads their supa and thanks them for the clips

godammit

>>9210753
She's a good painter.
I just found out she has an actual pro background in painting.
It explains why her drawings are more realistic than Anime
https://youtu.be/D6BOxqveklI

>Mumei inclining
I shouldn't have sold...

>>9222119
???????????????
As dumb as that was, Bae 100% watched holostars and especially roberu before she joined. She also likely watched some others, but didnt regularly keep up with EN, hence why she might not know about that leech.

>>9209288
For the same reason I don't like EN1, they're shit

>>9222234
You bought the rrats and sold the hopium. Now all you've left is rope and copium.

Who genuinely gives a shit what this board of schizophrenics who derive their entire opinion of various vtubers from clips and greentexts thinks?

>>9209288
Why does it matter what a bunch of terminally mad internet people think?

>>9209529
Sheep

>>9210545
you didn't want to sound like a commie and I don't either but this is literally capitalism commodifying social relationships and the only discourse is money, and the sad thing is it's not even some metaphor anymore like in the 80s, it's fucking real.

>>9209288
Was the upside down thing a Straya reference

>>9209288
/vt/ became a prominent NijiEN board.
They started the HoloEN2 hate threads even before their debuts, trying to spread hate and misinformation about them.
This will continue because they are new and easy targets.

>>9223031
/vt/ should just exile Nijifags like the dogs they are.
/vt/ is for Hololive and Nijjers have no place here.

>>9209288
Non-meme answer: because they debuted with a chuuni group concept that could never live up to expectations and had a super scuffed debut with technical issues, Youtube eating subscribers and initial thematic stream plans cancelled by retarded management. They ended up looking like a bunch of amateurs billed like the next coming of e-thottery and it hurt them in the important stage of establishing first impressions.

>>9209731
>this should be a spot reserved for the cream of the crop of talents,
Nah, all you have to do to get in is be friends with Ina.

>>9223340
>Nah, all you have to do to get in is be friends with Ina.
thanks for reminding me why I hate that gook

>>9223159
Trust me. They will die eventually if they don't really deserve it.
Fans stay = they're entertaining. It's not rocket science.
That alone makes your entire self-absorbed argument obsolete.

>>9219180
>WAAAAH WAAAAAAAH WAAAAAAAAAAH WAAAAAAAAAAAAH WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>9219180
Good one, anon.

You almost fooled me into thinking you're actually planning on being a functional member of society.

>>9223456
>word soup answer
Are you a bot, perchance?

>>9209352
wrong. it’s just like when Irys first debuted, she turned out to be good. In EN2, Kronii is the only good one.

>>9210823
>$45k just by milking her only unique asset and feeding the paypigs at the same time
well no shit fuck you think was going to happen

>>9210491
what general consensus? from /vt/? you’re delusional.

>>9223949
I thought the general consensus from /vt/ was that they were whores who trampled all over their pre-existing fanbase to become nepotism hires on account of that slatternous vixen, Ina, lining her friends' pockets at the expense of Cover and that they were all boring and retarded besides Kronii, who is the essence of arousing the male orgasm.

>>9210846
No way I'm trading Fauna for that obnoxious hyena.

>>9222544
The recipe is pretty simple 1) Create significant wealth inequality 2) Create avenues of entertainment that keep people apart 3) create jobs where people can't have meaningful relationships 4) create communities where people can't have meaningful relationships 5) prevent people from having avenues of investment

The end result is people shilling for gachas or virtual idols. You have some meager disposable income but no aspirations or relationships or investments, so the money just finds a sinkhole.

I love kronii's voice. She's also kind of cute in a self-deprecating way. But yeah, she's done NOTHING to deserve that wealth. And like half of it goes to google+hololive, it's not like she even gets enriched by it. That said I hope she does great things now that she should have sufficient motivation.

>>9223340
>>9223408
thought clock was irys nepotism hire cuz of clock finger blasting iyrs sister or some shit like that

>>9223340
To be fair, only the elite of society are worthy of being in the tako's inner circle.

...and Ame.

>>9224288
Ame is the original gen2 EN. Zero talent. But she's cute!

>>9224242
They were indeed part of the same friend group of lesbians/bisexual women most of whom dated each other at least once. No connection to Ina.

Cover became really careful with auditioning since Aloe.

>>9224489
Ollie could only have been the result of rigorous screening.

>>9224573
She's a treasure.

>>9224764
and a fucking zommer who needs to be wrangled by a trad wrangler Ollie is fine when she is not dealing with fucking grifters and ecelebs

>>9224573
Ollie is the result of two brown closet fag muslims trying out threesome with a dog