/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>9163277
Once we get rid of Ollie Kiara is next

Who is it? Kronii and her boyfriend?

>>9163363
why do you hate me?

Ollie, Mori, Kiara.

>>9163588
Do any EN2 members have a chance of turning the trifecta into the Four Heavenly Kings?

>>9163588
>>9163319
What happened with Ollie?

>>9163722
All of EN2 seems pretty likable so far so probably not. Mori and Kiara were just a very unlucky draw

>>9163738
She thinks she's hot shit and can do whatever she wants

>>9163513
I dont! Youre one of the two reasons her boring ass still relevant. Cuck fanbase and mommy avatar.

>>9163738
Broke off her leash and has started going full cancer, with Connor and Vshojo and sucking up to Nux Taku a notorious doxxfag

>>9163761
She literally is and can. Your weeb ass won’t stop her “yabs”

>>9163819
Anon why the fuck are you watching women pretend to be anime girls if you hate "weebs"

>>9163277
>/vt/
You mean some shitty Discords that come to the board to shit all over the place about the orange chicken people at most just didn't give a shit about? Nah being hated by a cesspool of schizos is not a bad thing.

>>9163753
why was mori hated newfag here kiara pretty much pretty obvious

>>9163808
is this legit or just /vt/ being schizo as usual?

>>9163928
Collabed with ecelebs and is a wigger

>>9163977
And also farted and shitted on stream

>>9163929
>just /vt/ being schizo as usual
this

>>9164047
>just /vt/ being schizo as usual
>this
this

>>9163928
Mori started off ok and people were happy for her to finally break out of her starving artist phase. She got a lot of leeway given because of her circumstances but over time it became more and more apparent she wasn't really that interested in Hololive and was way more interested in shilling her irl clique. The fact she was was more serious and prepared for a collab with Gigguk than any of her collabs with anyone in Hololive was the straw that broke the camels back for a lot of people after months of giving her slack because she was still "new" to streaming.

Basically Mori is a less cancerous version of Ollie. She really wants to pollute Hololive with indie and e-celeb shit and would do what Ollie is doing if she could get away with it but the JP managers have a tighter leash on her than the ID managers do on Ollie.

>>9164041
Doubt people hate her because of a fart

>>9164041
>farded and shidded
but did she cumd?

>>9164077
>just /vt/ being schizo as usual
>this
>this
this

>>9164097
No that was just Ollie

>>9163929

https://twitter.com/CovfefeChan/status/1433472272304689160

Here's her in a tweet with fanart of her hanging out with Nux. She seems to be solidifying a group of e-celeb friends: Nux, Connor, Fefe, etc.

>>9164082
I hope Mori does some stuff with Nijisanji.

>>9164121
>just /vt/ being schizo as usual
>this
>this
>this
this

>>9163843
I never said I hated weebs

>>9164560
Why'd you use it as a pejorative then

>>9164581
Just ignore this faggot.
I never said I hated faggots.

>>9164517
>just /vt/ being schizo as usual
>this
>this
>this
>this
this

>>9164082
>Basically Mori is a less cancerous version of Ollie.
But Ollie loves hololive? She just also likes and collabs with people outside of it. That's a key difference from Mori.

>>9164082
Nah. Mori at least makes a reputable indie connection unlike ollie who starve for intention. I dont mind with people like trash taste or milky, people who know their place. Ollie, on the other hand, makes cancerous bridges with literall toxic waste like nuxxnigger and his faggot circle.

>>9164622
>just /vt/ being schizo as usual
>this
>this
>this
>this
tits

>>9163277
>I'm no longer the most hated Hololive member by tribal faggots!
Fix'd

>>9164648
>ollie loves hololive
Someone isnt a member of zomrades

>>9163277
>A random day in a random week
>Nothing happens
>Another orange woman thread
She truly owns this board

>>9164082
It's a strange thing. To break through to the mainstream, they must suck up to normie-popular parasites like Nux and Gigguk and poison the oasis that has breathe life unto them. Yet to not do so is to die as the tiny corner of autistic loner viewers becomes oversaturated.

>>9164082
>The fact she was was more serious and prepared for a collab with Gigguk than any of her collabs with anyone in Hololive
Nigga, that collab was right after THAT gura collab and was just bad timing. She proved after that she prepared for the Coco and Ollie Mario Party collab and any other collab afterwards.

>>9164762
Her collab with Coco in that meme review is near universally regarded as one of the worst collabs in Hololive history. She wasn't particularly good in Mario Party but she didn't put her foot in her mouth which is more indicative of you lowering your standards enough so she can limp over them rather than Mori actually putting in a satisfactory effort.

>>9164082
Fuck off, she learned from criticism from her last collab in a day.

>>9164799
Yeah and as seen in the other collabs afterwards she did learn from the criticism and made up for it.

>>9164799
I swear it's like Mori anti narratives have frozen in time since June, almost as if they don't actually have anything to complain about these days.

>>9164863
How far back in Moris archive do you think I'd need to go before I find a stream that has serious technical problems due to a lack of preparation? Honest question. 2 weeks? Maybe 3?

>>9164900
Here, I'll help you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7VGI7x9F0s
A bit over a week.

>>9164891
Likewise the cope hasn't gotten any better either. I've been seeing "That's months old! Mori has been changed!" since last year and it's never been true. She's still phoning in at least half her streams, probably more.

>>9163722
If you were actually not a tourist newfag, you'd know how much hate two of them are getting. More than anyone in EN1 has.

>>9164799
>Her collab with Coco in that meme review is near universally regarded as one of the worst collabs in Hololive history.
>that collab has 84k likes
>the average numbers of likes for a meme review stream is ~40K
At least put SOME effort into your lies, for the love of Christ

>>9164082
Completely wrong.

>>9164950
The average normaloid Holofan doesn't know what quality actually is, which is why Mori is so popular and why Ollie is the #1 ID.

>>9164921
She did prepare for that though. Can't really blame her for internet outages.

>>9164921
Sure, if you completely ignore Kiara talking about Mori preparing with the girls 2 hours in advance. Shit just breaks sometimes and it ended up being a fun collab despite that.

>>9164921
She literally prepared for that stream two hours before. Watch the fucking stream.

>>9164975
Lmao just leave already retard. You already got btfo multiple times in the thread with your wildly incorrect information.

>>9164980
>>9164984
>>9164986
>She did prepare for that though
She didn't, at least for the actual streaming part.
>internet outages
Her problem was on OBS. She could have fixed it if she prepared properly, which she didn't.

>>9164975
Sorry you and your schizo clique aren't the norm dude but at least read the fucking room (or better yet bring some hard evidence!) before you lie

>>9164998
>Mori is popular so that means she's great
C'mon now.

>>9164950
Redditors have no fucking taste. It's a shambles. A good point against the "universally" part of his argument though, a lot of people /here/ don't realize that despite the size and speed of this board relative to 4chan we're actually a minority of fans.

>Ollie is the #1 ID
Still Moona, although the gap is getting distressingly shorter by the day.

>>9163277
I don't know if this is just the /vt/ equivalent of growing tolerance to chronic unfathomable pain, but she has become much more tolerable for me lately. I no longer hate her with all my heart, I merely dislike her and don't watch her streams

>>9163363
Wait i missed 3days here, wasnt the sneeze female?

>>9165000
Her problem was her shitty laptop that could not take the OBS running and shit load of tabs open.

>>9165038
Kiara is actually great, some schizos have extreme reactions to the frequencies of her voice

>>9165016
>Mori is bad because the voices in my head said so.
Ogey.

>>9165016
That is not what he said though. That guy just has stick up in his ass about Mori and thinks she is evil cartoon villain that is trying to destroy Hololive.

>>9163277
I actually like Kiara now, its been a long time since she was truly hated is mostly sperging from her antis nowadays, she did improved a lot since she got back home and her change of posture after the uno collab.

>>9165148
Well, she certainly isn't making it better.

>>9164950
Redditors are NPCs their opinions don't count. I regard them in the same way I would botted likes and views.

>>9164891
It was the high water mark for anti/dramafags on this site. They got Mori to take down a video and got Kiara to cancel a collab. It's probably the most influence this leper's colony is going to have on Vtubing for a while. They can't adapt to the fact that Mori seems to be getting over her self hate and that Cover enacted policies that circumvent the pre-collab doxxing, so they choose to live in the past.

>>9164648
If you love something, why would you want to fundamentally change it?
>Yes, I love my wife, but I'd prefer it if she dyed her hair, was 3 inches taller, changed her fashion sense and had a different accent.

Anti threads are so fucking boring lately, it's all just material from months ago being recycled over and over again. What's next, are we going to talk about how mean old Polka made fun of the janitors? Or maybe how Marine molested Shion? Oh, what about Luna becoming estranged from Matsuri, that's always a good one!

Come up with something new already, holy fuck

>>9165189
The criticisms of Mori are still valid unfortunately. If she hasn't done anything to improve there's no reason to stop pointing out the flaws she's had since debut.

>>9165189
None of them fundamentally endangered the core of Hololive. Mori and Ollie will forever be hated for the same reasons because they actually do and they'll keep doing it to "own the haters", especially the former.

>>9165175
Kiara didn’t even cancel it, it was Veibae who couldn’t handle the heat after she doubled down like a retard instead of doing some half-assed apology.
Redditfags are still mad at her surprisingly.

>>9163277
Kiara and Ollie will always be my favorites just for how much they piss off people here, that means they're doing something right.

>>9165213
>If she hasn't done anything to improve
Expect that she has. Mori makes one mistake after weeks of good streams and they suddenly come from the woodwork and act like she hasn't done anything good ever.

>>9165291
What about the pink one?

>>9164799
Best post in the thread

>>9165227
So if Mori stopped doing e-celeb collabs would people stop hating her?

>>9165310
Oh you better believe it anon, I especially love her

>>9165292
>after weeks of good streams
Oh, please. What you deadbeats consider as "good" is way below the average.

>>9165292
Yeah they hate her and are trying to press on a perceived soft spot, it's fucking annoying but not a whole lot that can be done about it.

Comparing her stream's delay time's to say Ame's is still super eye opening about this sort of thing though

>>9165148
do you like watching her? she’s the only holo I absolutely cannot watch because everything about her makes my body cringe

>>9164041
Pretty sure her fans would like her even more after that

>>9165335
So what do you count as a good stream?

>>9165291
Not anymore anon, Ollie is wathever and Kiara is way more tolerable these days, Mori is the big pink evil for most of the anons here.

>>9165332
The first step would be deleting the Gigguk VOD and ignoring e-celebs and vshitters.
The second step would be immersing herself into Hololive culture.
The third step would be improving the quality of her streams and dropping the cringe wigger mannerism.
It's literally never gonna happen.

>>9165360
I genuinely don't understand how people who get into Vtubers, much less English vtubers, give a shit about 'cringe'. Do you find Luna cringe? Or Risu cringe? Just fucking enjoy, jesus.

>>9165360
>do you like watching her?
Yeah. I can understand that she filters a lot people with her mannerism and you can't do anything about.

>>9163761
She's right and in fact based

>>9164082
>Mori doesn't care about Hololive!
This rrat should be in a rretirement home. Parroting it may as well be a symptom of dementia.

>>9165399
>dropping the cringe wigger mannerism
Okay i caught you, deadbeat.

>>9165399
The first step is impossible, she’s friends with the TT group in real life and is drinking buddies with Gigguks wife

>>9165485
Wiggerism will never be good, deadbeat.
>>9165500
All of the steps are impossible.

>>9165399
I'm pretty glad that she doesn't care about your shit opinion in the slightest.

>>9165360
No, I hate every second of watching my oshi stream, sing, have fun with friends and see her dreams come true. Mori SUCKS! >:{

>>9165053
Ex hater here, she is really entertaining and loves what she does. She's hard working but a little too pushy for my taste. Her voice is a filter, but it's not impossible to get used to. Then you have those short videos, for example, I'm frog, which are cringe as fuck, but overall she's on the ok side.

>>9165213
>Comment you're replying to has 0 mention of Mori
Are you retarded or just spam replying "Mori bad" comments because you can't up with any valid arguments?

>>9165536
>those short videos
Which are inconsequential and easily ignorable.

>>9163819
Except she's not. Ollie is objectively obnoxious and should be booted off ASAP

>>9165399
>The first step would be deleting the Gigguk VOD and ignoring e-celebs and vshitters.
She's not going to delete a VOD, but she hasn't done any e-celeb collabs in months and I don't recall her interacting with any of them either.

>The second step would be immersing herself into Hololive culture.
What's your bar for this? She calls into totsus, sings Hololive songs in karaoke, recognized every single reference in Smol Gura, does drawings streams where she pretty much solely draws Holos, talks about interactions she's had with other Holos all the time on stream etc. She even does stuff like write lyrics for her kouhai, animate music videos and stream intros for her genmate and collabs with senpai for songs.

>The third step would be improving the quality of her streams and dropping the cringe wigger mannerism.
'Quality' of her streams is completely subjective, I'd say they're pretty good though. She's been doing fun endurance gaming streams and she's gotten great at bouncing off chat in zatsudans and launching into some interesting topics. And if using a bit of early 00's slang means she's completely irredeemable as a vtuber that's just kind of fucking stupid.

>>9165523
You will not fool me, deadbeat.
I have seen through your tricks.

>>9165556
Everything is easily ignorable but that doesn't stop anyone here.

>>9165575
Finally a deadbeat in this thread that isn’t coping
Good post anon, your kind could learn from you

>>9165399
In other words, dump everything that makes her Mori for better and worst and become a completely new character.

>>9165669
You got it! Or just, you know, make her graduate.

>>9165575
Mori hate is on the rise again because Ollie confirmed a collab with Connor that has Mori in it in her members only.

>>9165721
Let's cross that bridge when we actually come to it instead of relying on >Ollie for accurate information about anything.

>>9165721
Even as a deadbeat i hope it was just those "yeah sure" things and she keeps making other shit so she doesn't have time for the collab.

>>9165754
I wonder if you'll stop coping when it finally happens, but given you deadbeats, you probably won't.

>>9165754
Remind me why HoloID is a thing? They seem to be the liability central of Hololive.

>>9163738
She got fingered on stream

>>9165796
No, I'll be mad as fuck about it, but I've been watching Hololive long enough to not actually believe in collabs until there's a date.

>>9165796
Best case scenario for that collab would be if Mori didn't stream her POV.

>>9165870
That changes nothing.

>>9163928
She doesn't care about hololive. Even told deadbeats they are not even worth 5% of her precious time...

>>9165897
t.deadbeat

why does gigguk look like a frog

>>9165887
It would because then you knew that it was Ollie's idea and she was just dragging Mori into it so she doesn't get all the heat.

>>9165957
SEAnigger

>>9165897
Go back to /morig/ faggot

>>9165897
Ogey retard

>>9163929
Mostly schizo but part true.

>>9164804
Sure, that's why the last TTRPG was a shitfest, because she learned from her mistakes....

>>9165399
Just kill yourself, faggot

>>9164082
Kys

>>9165972
She still agreed to it.

>>9166093
Anon, she wasn't at home and overestimated how much her laptop could take it. Also it was one out of many TTRPG collabs that went wrong. Not every stream is gonna be perfect.

>>9165721
Why is that a problem again?

>>9166145
Oh i agree that it was stupid of her to do that but god i hope it is not in her priority list.

>>9166093
>Every other TTRPG collab she ran which were big successes don't count
>Only the one she tried to do on the road that encountered technical difficulties but was still turned into a great stream which showed how well HoloMyth have bonded over the past year is a showcase of how pink woman bad

>>9166160
>and overestimated how much her laptop could take it
That wouldn't have happened if she did even some basic prep work before the stream.

Just Collab with Vei then I'll hate on you again chicken

>>9166210
And she did two hours before the stream.

>>9165016
Mori is great indeed, but not because she's popular

>>9166282
She only prepped the game part because streaming does not matter to her.

>>9166306
ogey

>>9164950
>He thinks the numbers are indicative of quality

>>9164891
Anyone that is not a fucking schizo already stopped watching Mori back then

>>9166209
NOOOOOO IT WAS CLEAERLY THAT HOLOMYTH WANTED TO DESTROY MORI'S PUSSY BY GANGBANGING HER ON STREAM THAT SHE DOESNT' CARE ABOUT HOLOLIVE YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND PLEASE BELIEVE MY RRATS MY ENTIRE LIFE FORCE DEPENDS ON IT YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE ME ANON I'M GOING TO DIIIIIIEEE AAAARRRRGGGH YOU'VE KILLED MY ANON I AM DEEEEAAAD FOREVEEEEERRRR... code tymrr

>>9164245
>Somebody draws fanart of her with other vtubers
>somehow this is Ollie's fault

>>9166394
Why would i stop watching Mori when she has been doing great after that fallout?

>>9166417
Why did I laugh at this bullshit

>>9166472
>

>>9165897
She meant that the actual act of streaming takes up 5% of her time, not any of the preparation. She spends 5% of her life in front of the camera, which is accurate to basically every member of Hololive.

>>9163819
I think shes retarded and her moves are quite impulsive and niggerish

>>9166541
>which is accurate to basically every member of Hololive
False, even she streamed for more than 5% of her time. The fact that she lowballed it that hard made me even angrier, because she didn't mean it as the actual time spent streaming but she meant it as how much she actually cares. Literally the opposite of Ame.

>>9165566
She will get away with it

>>9166612
ogey

>>9166612
Have you genuinely never heard of hyperbole? Or did you expect her to have a fucking accurate percentage ready off the top of her head or something?

>>9166612
Nice goalposts bro. You do this every time you get BTFO.

>>9166612
How is it possible to rrat so hard that you pretend the talent meant something which would torpedo their career?

Even if it was true she would not say it on stream you schizo.

If she said "I do many things behind the scenes, streaming is just a part of that" there would have been no problem. But your boy has a way with words.

I swear, even if the antis are wrong, most deadbeats just fucking suck at damage controlling. They haven’t reached cult status like KFP but they’re as retarded as Nyanfags
Be more like this anon >>9165575

>>9166739
>"I do many things behind the scenes, streaming is just a part of that"
I mean she did but bit too late which i think was because she realized how bad it sounded. She has gotten better at not putting her foot into her mouth recently.

>>9163277
I only hate you for not actually using your belt to transform

>>9166732
People are retarded and some don't think before speaking, it's wouldn't be rare if she accidentally said something really bad on accident, it happens to everyone

KFP, remember to thank Mumei.

>>9166998
>people are retarded and some don't think before speaking
You've demonstrated that nicely, anon, but I'm not sure how Mori fits into that.

>>9167020
That fits perfectly into Mori.

>>9167126
She says retarded stuff all the time, all of EN does, most of holo does, this is not a flaw unique to her, it's impossible to not slip up something stupid while being a streamer

>>9164762
im out of the loop, what Gura collab? what happened?

thin veiled shill thread for garbo wvt literally who males

>>9167194
There was a gura collab that was so scuffed she made the stream private for a while until she decided to bring it back

>>9167194
Mori and Gura were supposed to do a Cuphead collab, as per usual EN doesn't test shit before doing a stream so the "EN curse" attacked for 30 minutes straight. Ending cancelling Cuphead and playing River City Girls instead (they only finished the first stage).
And just to add, they promised to play again to finish it- this was 2 months ago.
https://youtu.be/Zo7APdvzezI

>>9167485
wich one? can you provide a Link? if not, im sorry to bother you and thanks for the answer

>>9164921
>due to lack of preparation
>kiara and gura literally backed her up unprompted saying she was already up 2 hours before the stream with them
It's almost like things just go wrong sometimes and there's nothing a person can do about it.

>>9167491
>>9167540
nevermind, just saw this, thank you both

>>9167491
Why do you talk so confidently about something you clearly didn't even fucking watch? They played Phasmophobia after Cuphead turned out to be impossible, River City Girls was a completely separate collab. And the reason they didn't continue RCG recently is because Mori was waiting on Gura to get a new controller, which Gura told Mori she got recently during the Matrix stream today.

>>9167192
But she didn't even say something retarded, though. There's 24 hours in a day, so 5% would be 1 hour and 12 minutes. Taking into account that some streams are longer than that, and some days have no streams at all, and that's not a terrible estimation.

>>9167491
>they promised to play again to finish it

That is the number one broken promise in hololive.
They always promise to play games again but rarely do they actually come back and do it.
It's pretty much a stand in for "I had a nice time"

>>9167612
Well shit, they make dumb mistakes every day so its hard to keep track of every scuff

I like Ollie. The only HoloEN members that are more entertaining to watch are Ame Sana and probably Kronii once she gets used to streaming, and that's with the indog debuff. If she were a HoloEN member she would probably be one of the best ones. I simply ignore the eceleb collabs, which works because she also does a lot of HoloJP collabs, and both her and the other holos are really happy to collab together. Plus the chess arc with FGC ecelebs was good.
The worst HoloEN(+ID) is by far Mori because it's obvious how little she cares about the Hololive company (I don't think that by itself is a bad thing, Rosemi did the same thing twice and she's still entertaining, but Mori can't even fake enthusiasm). Kiara is annoying but you can tell she loves Hololive so she's better than most of HoloEN1 in my books even if I will never watch any of her streams nor any collab where she's in

>>9164077
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>>9164622
>>9164692
HECKIN BASED BASED BASED BASED PUT ME IN THE SCREENSHOT

>>9167667
Nah, it's because you didn't actually watch the stream. Don't worry about it, most people on this board clearly don't.

>>9165485
>delete gigguk collab
She can do whatever the fuck she wants. Only reason she collabed with him was because he was experienced in a card game the both of them were in an upcoming tournament for.
>immersing herself in hololive culture
She's collabed with many holo senpais musically and for streams. Planning to start a monthly eikaiwa series where she teaches jp senpai english slang. Also most recently recognized every single song and most references in the smol ame game.
>drop the wigger act
/vt/ unironically using the word wigger when the only remotely wigger thing she says is "dawg". And no, rap doesn't count even if it originated from black culture. Her style of rap is as far removed from western black rap as possible. If you're going to argue white people shouldn't rap, then no one should be listening to R&B, Jazz, Blues and many other genres done by non-black people.

>>9167648
Which Mori is actually going to chance now that she is finishing games she started. Doom is next after she comes back to Japan.

>>9163722
You been sleeping under a rock? Mumei is hated, and Fauna is legit shitposted on to death. Fauna in particular would probably last for a long time since its confirmed

>>9167643
It's retarded to say an estimation at all, you could word what she said way better if she wanted to make an argument, even if the percentage is correct it still sounds incredibly awful

>>9167777
Uuhhh, +1 to Mori on this actually. Shes actually finishing games now. Long ones on top of it.
On the other hand Gura has like 5 finished games total but no one cares about that.

Another day I'm glad nijisanji is devoid of this retarded shit flinging and schizo freaks.

>>9167777
Nice quads
Games may or may not be finished. People just need to put no expectations into "That was so fun, let's play ___ and finish it." after collabs

It does not mean that they actually will play it again. They have lot of stuff they plan on doing and may or may not actually get back to it.

As far as Calli actually finishing games I do hope she goes back to HK. I think she would really love it when she gets into it.

>>9167832
Except it doesn't really sound awful at all, and outside of about a dozen schizophrenic retards on a backwater imageboard, nobody fucking cares.

>>9167909
Dude
Did you forget the whole Roa shitshow? It was WAY worse than anything ITT

>>9167914
>As far as Calli actually finishing games I do hope she goes back to HK
I honestly don't know why Mori never went back to HK. I know she stopped playing it back then because she didn't want to overlap Ina (and I doubt she'll pick it up now because Kronii is playing it), but she was pretty good at it in that one stream and it definitely seems like her kind of game.

>>9167963
>implying he actually watches niji
This is a bait thread anon

>>9167914
>I do hope she goes back to HK.
Hololive has just recovered from Taiwan and now you want a HK shitshow?

>Orange woman bad thread
>90% of posts are about Mori or Ollie

>>9168213
Kiara's reign of terror is over

>>9167723
You mad bro?

>>9168213
KFP shitting on Ollie. We have this thread every fucking day. They need their daily dose of copium to not neck themselves.

>>9168213
Wait for tomorrow

>>9168453
Not in particular, no. Pink woman bad is a common enough occurrence it doesn't bother me. But having at least one non-intentionally misinformed post in a sea of idiotic ones at least should be a thing.

>>9163277
Congrats Kiara, I'm happy for you

>>9163277
Most of us already saw your true colours Kiara
>pic related

>>9168549
>KFP shitting on Ollie
You shifting the blame again, indog?

>>9168117
Is this...a joke?

>>9163753
>All of EN2 is likeable
Now thats funny.

>>9163928
Jealousy. Also people who hate rap.

>acts a certain way very consistently
>people come up with a joke about it and bring it up around her
>gets upset that people make a joke about her being a funny woman
>also talks several times about how hard it is to have what is essentially a built in fanbase without streaming from the hololive name alone, but oh no it's so hard being an idol and making a lot of money
>never offered up good, legitimate reasons why being famous is shit
what did kiara mean by this?

>>9163738
She's Muslim, she's someone's property.

>>9166167
kys

>>9166365
>near universally regarded as one of the worst collabs
>He thinks the numbers are indicative of quality
which is it, do numbers matter or not

>>9172431
Sound argument.
I have a counterargument though.

seethe

Mori is a stupid idiot and everybody must know

>>9164799
>Her collab with Coco in that meme review is near universally regarded as one of the worst collabs in Hololive history.
I love how nobody think that she was too nervous maybe because the inminent graduation announcement. I'm not a fandead or anything but I can understand the pressure she had (at the same time I think Ame did better)... Shion didn't even come to her review when it happened

>>9171930
i remember the good times where my idol would get fingerblasted on stream in front of her friends and 10 thousand zomcucks

>>9173159
>I'm not a fandead

nice try deadbeat

>>9173377
I'm retard lmao, I meant deadbeat

>>9170750
>indog
Убиј ce пeдepy

Every Ollie thread ultimately dissolves into couple of anons circlejerking each other over how based Kiara is. A blind man can see that shit.

>>9173718
>I'm retard

nice try Kiara

>>9173778
Mua, djalë shqiptar, qij gjithë familjen tuaj
But that's implying you even are serb, nice jewgle translate hohol. Shit up some other threads why don't you.

>>9173994
Uvik jebeni šiptari, matere li vam se najebem. Otvori novu pekaru Adise i otiđi iz Kosova.

Is that Google translated you Albanian ice cream shop owner?

>>9174128
Now I know you don't actually speak that language, dumb caлoeд.
)))

>>9163738
Some narcissists hate her for associating with people they personally dislike for the most petty reasons.

>>9174670
kys zomcuck

>>9174378
Ne želim brate upadati u svađe o nacionalnosti. Doša san lipiti sranja o čubama I smijati se šizofreničarima. Idem vani brate pušit lošu albanku.

Good bye Albanian bro. Send some better weed over the border.

>>9174670
ollie got fucked on stream

kys zomcuck

>>9174670
i fucking wish she wouldnt associate with those people

i actually LIKE those people but Ollie makes it fucking unbearable to watch

>>9163277
having a couple zhangs and a schizo or two making constant shitposts doesn't count as being "the most hated".

>>9174789
I'm sorry friend, it was all in jest. Enjoy your Albanian whore, ben aslında Türküm. Kosova Sırbistan'a aittir.

>vtubers can't have relationships
>vtubers can't talk to men
>vtubers have to be kept in the house and not interact with strangers

I have to say for saying you hate Islam so much you guys are really in a Sharia mindset about this whole vtuber thing.

>>9163738
Which category of yab would you like to filter the list by?

>>9174960
But anon, Indonesians ARE muslims. Why do you think they seethe hard at Ollie?

>>9174670
ollie is a numberfag doxnigger

kys zomcuck

>>9166472
>doing great
>literally had to cancel TTRPG because once again she didn't take the 2 minutes required to test her OBS setup
Yeah ok cuckbeat.

finally the board agrees that ollie is a worthless numberfag attention whore. was patiently waiting for this day

>>9174960
kek

>>9175143
>worthless
>attention whore

Based

>>9174960
There’s a difference in personal liberties and polluting your brand with hangers-on.

>>9174960
It is mostly Holobronies that think this way.

>>9164804
Considering she and Ollie are planning a collab with Connor, she hasn't learned shit.

Jesus Christ, do cuckbeats organize their white knighting in chat rooms or something? The white knighting in this thread is off the scales, everyone that even looks at Calli the wrong way has over 9000 (you)s from seething cuckbeats.

>>9175180
But the key point is you get to decide which is which.
For their own good.

>>9165227
>collaborating with people outside of the vtuber bubble is going to kill Hololive somehow
ogey

>>9175104
t.deadbeat

>>9175212
Nice falseflag deadbrap.

>>9175208
I agree that it was stupid of her saying "yes" to Ollie and when it happens i will criticize her for it but i hope that she just said yes out of kindness and keeps pushing it further until Ollie gives up.

>>9175217
Not mine but yes people quite literally do get paid a salary so they they avoid PR disasters like that.

>>9163277
Do we hate Mumei now?

>>9175212
>people disagree with your caveman opinion
>they must be whiteknighting!

pathetic

>>9175412
no way. I adore that retard

>>9175383
It's not a PR disaster. You're just a schizo

>>9175266
>>9175355
>>9175438
Like clockwork.

Guys, I'm thinking Lackanashi Liara was framed.

>>9168453
You have to be at least 18 years old to post on this site

>>9175465
Associating with off-brand dramafags is quite literally setting yourself up to fail. Not even talking about the TT guys since they’re kind of a special case.

>>9174670
This is the actual answer

If I was a Holo chuuba I'd be announcing e-celeb collabs every week because it's so fucking funny watching the ncel seethe

>>9175479
I am unironically enjoying this stream

>>9175478
Nigga, we went over that TTRPG topic already like twice. Of course who brings it up again is falseflaging deadbeat.

>>9175412
other than the hopium huffers and the redditors in /hlgg/ pretty much the consensus on mumei boils down to being massively dissapointed and or boring

>>9175478
t. schizo

>>9174767
>>9174797
>>9175054
Take your meds, samefucker

>>9175556
>Not even talking about the TT guys
So who then?

>>9175663
Mostly Nux who is a known doxxer and all-around fag and making statements about other Idol companies. It’s very irresponsible.

>>9175212
Cope

>>9164799
>Her collab with Coco in that meme review is near universally regarded as one of the worst collabs in Hololive history
More like it's considered the best save in Hololive history.
I get why people would dislike it, but if you don't see the entertainment in how everything played out, that's on you.
The largest chunk of people who watched ended up enjoying it.

>>9175781
And who says they are collabing?

>>9175878
Associating.

>>9174960
Brilliant
Purityfags out

>>9175655
kys zomfaggot

>>9175942
>Associating
In what way?

>>9176007
he talks about her all the time and she recognized him in her chat once lmao

>>9175781
Oh that guy. I have noticed one interesting thing about that guy, when ever he shows up on Mori's stream he never does his usual trying to derail the stream.

>>9175781
I get why people hate him but he's fucking funny lmao

>>9163277
Why would they give a shit about anyone here

>>9176080
The Nigger of Nippon intimidates him. She's too powerful.

>>9163928
Lurk more and don't get your opinions from anti threads on /vt/

>>9176080
Because he knows cover will not deal with his shit.

>>9176065
>he talks about her all the time
who gives a shit
>she recognized him in her chat once
Oh fuck, they are practically married I guess.

>>9176693
oh i know i agree it's stupid. still hate ollie tho

>>9176693
They interact on socials quite a bit and his entire fan base and persona are fucking awful tryhard ironic weeaboo.

>>9166464
shittaku does want to groom her though since conur took ironmouse from him, I'm pretty sure they're interacted on twitter. Although he tried the same shit with Calli or even Kson but Ollie is the most susceptible.

>>9176742
You can hate whoever you want. I just hope it's not for some cringe bullshit.
For your sake.

>>9167909
Just wait until Anycolor debuts their NijiEN males. You fags will make all of hololive's current dramas (even though they're nothingburgers) look like a fucking joke. Can't wait for the mass exodus of Goslings from NijiEn to hololive where they truly belong.

kiara pic ///// mori anti thread wtf happened

>>9176836
>Although he tried the same shit with Calli
Did he? All i ever have saw him posting on her chat is saying hello and it always stops there.

>>9177163
he makes videos watching clips of literally everyone in hololive and jokes about simping and then maybe one chat or social media interaction happens and the fags go batshit

>>9177334
Good he should fuck off and stop riding coattails.

>>9164687
She collabed with like one "indie" so far, her irl friend Milky Queen, there was also Ironmouse and obviously Gigguk but apparently she hangs out with whole TT crew since that episode, when Kiara came back to (((Australia))) she replaced her with sydsnap.
The thing is Cali pretends to have "big personality" as this underground edgy rapper but then all she do is trying to suck her way into some rather mainstream e-celeb cliques that wouldn't care about her one bit if she wasn't in hololive. Doesn't seem like they're fans of her music, it's obviously not a connection between the artistic souls or whatever, they can't even be of much help with her music career... It's somehow more disappointing than Kringy Ollie being a stupid zoomer, it sure is annoying but also expected while Cali started pretty based but since showed more and more of her normie side.

>>9163929
The latter

>>9165050
>be a proffesional streamer for over a year
>still shitty laptop

I know women tend to be technologically illiterate but this shit is embarrassing it should be on her priority list and it's not like she didn't touch a computer before hololive editing videos and stuff can be more demanding than any game it's why people invest in 64 RAM she have no excuse.

>>9178343
>she replaced her with sydsnap
Sydsnap fucking wishes she was as close to Mori as Kiara.

Anyway she is friends with them but what the fuck can we do about it. I hope that they are actually real friends with Mori because i don't want to see the fallout if she founds that the were just there for Mori and not for her.

>>9163753
I enjoy EN2 but let's be real, most of them are pretty blatantly bitches.

>>9178677
>still shitty laptop
She has a better computer at home but she is not at home right now.

>>9165016
maybe don't use words like 'universally' when the numbers don't support your opinion. you just end up looking like a retard who doesn't know what words mean.

>>9175372
To be fair it doesn't seem like Cali is very hot for conur what would they even do together, play APEX(poorly)?

>>9164245
Oh wow. You're right. Let's lynch her.

>>9166869
damage controlling for 4chan is retarded and pointless.

the only idiots who care about this place are the retards on here

>>9178783
>play APEX(poorly)?
That is what is gonna happen and that is pretty big proof that Mori didn't plan any of this collab. She is not gonna play FPS game unless some holo members asks her to.

>>9175412
Yes! She pretends to be retarded like the virigns that watch her so they give her money for being relatable to them, while she spends it on her dogfriend

>>9165233
I mean there was this rrat that COVER cancelled Veiszmata and supposedly nyanners talked about it on discord but not sure if it was ever confirmed. Either way yes we popularized that clip but Veikurwa came up so bitchy even redditors were angry and Kiara herself addresed the point about being "fake" more than once, doesn't seem like they've talked on discord since.

>>9164950
There wasn't anything that would rally up the normies not to mention why would you dislike Coco's stream to show dissatisfaction with the performance of her guest? Just try watching this shit you don't exactly need stats to notice how awkward it was, Coco asked multiple times "is she always like this" and called her a crackhead because she looked like she's having a fucking stroke for an hour, and when she said something it was uh uhum mm or something borderline passive aggresive, she should start a podcast with James Rolfe.

>>9179703
Well even Mori realized that she was awkward and said that she never will go to Meme Review ever again because it is not her thing.

>>9167963
or more recently when fujos heard Kuzuha during Mikoto stream

>>9173994
Enver Hoxha e mprehi shpaten, edhe nje here o per situaten!

>>9178858
>the only idiots who care about this place are the retards on here

Unironically sounds like an Ouroboros. They post about "insert fanbanse" shitting up the board, fill the board up with rrats about said vtuber. Then the fans of THAT vtuber complain about the rrats and blame "insert different fanbase" for shitting up the board while posting more rrats in response. It's just a cycle of stupidity and pettiness, mixed in with a lack of perspective, that feeds itself on it's own byproduct. And then there's the ones playing all sides to get their rocks off who feed it some more.

Orange woman good

>>9164950
It was "so bad it's good" territory. Mori's cool onee-san image (which is how the Japs still viewed her) shredded in 60 short minutes.

>>9175412
I haven't 'gotten' her since her debut. All anyone that likes her can say is "she's cute"
Yeah? Is that all? Just about everyone in Hololive is cute. If you're being paid to be an entertainer, entertain me or fuck off. Being a "heckin wholesome keanu birb-a-rino" isn't a substitute for a personality. I've seen 2 collabs with her and I'm not sure if she said a single word in either of them. What the hell was the point? Is she dying of cancer? We all know Yagoo is a saviorfag. Did he feel bad for her? Why not hire Ironmouse instead? WHAT'S THE APPEAL

>>9163819
>>9163843
>>9164560
Neither of you fags are weebs unless you idolize Japan in its entirety without admitting its faults and simultaneously wishing you were Japanese
Stupid fucking faggots bastardizing your own made up vocabulary

>>9190102
>Mori's cool onee-san image (which is how the Japs still viewed her) shredded in 60 short minutes
And they still love her. Mori's true appeal was always her gap moe.

>>9190748
>Just about everyone in Hololive is cute
irys is the exception proving the rule

>>9177064
KFPs are evolved to be good at damage control

People who defend Mori are fucking retarded cuckolds. TTRPG is her only decent contribution to the Hololive brand.

>ITT: rrats and tribalists

>>9174960
Islam is right about women, inshallah

>>9163277
I love Kiara unironically

>>9195029
no this thread is full of chuds

>>9163277
she will always be the most punchable hololive member

>>9173345
Still don't know why she would try to do that or allow that to happen. Guess she really does think she's hot stuff

>>9197821
Ayame (Yagoo's niece) exists.

>>9197821
Shion's belly is made for harapan