/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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>>91523099
And that's a good thing!

>>91523099
good all holotards should stay in their containment zone

>>91523099
Keep consooming your corposlop

>>91523248
Sure, it's called /vt/

>>91523099
These are the people that call themselves the "real Vtuber fans" btw.

>>91523099
then you know more than catalog shitters here who watch no vtuber

>>91523099
Haha! Same fellow holobro! I'm thinking of supaing my oshi during her next zatsu to remind her that m*les are very yabai. Then later I might bau bau along with my favorite doggos. Indie peasants don't know what they're missing out on.

>>91523589
This but unironically.

>>91523390
I am a holofans.
i don't watch vtubers, i watch holomems.

>>91523099
consoooom

>>91523099
Good holodrone. Don't break containment.

>>91523099
there are no Vtubers outside of hololive

>>91523099
amen brotha

>>91523099
And I've never even heard this girl's voice before. If we combine our forces we could be unstoppable.

>>91523099
Based, untainted anon.

>>91523940
>even random Korone paid ads have sovl
Based

>>91523099
Whomsdt askeddo?

Hololive en is outside of hololive

>>91524351
I asked.

>>91524357
Try again.

>>91524325
>random

>>91524367
Where?

NijiEN debuted as an obvious counter to HoloEN's very great success.
What many people don't know is that Nijisanji had an EN branch before, which was actually created out of the failed remnants of the IN (indian) branch. Those people were all graduated to management roles for the income EN branch.

Lazulight debuted as the first gen (or wave as Nijis call it, but fuck that lmao), and was characterized by excellent friendship dynamics and open VC fun. Many people forget that Pomu was actually the weakest member at the start, and lagged significantly behind the others because of her monthlong break for major surgery. Though that would soon change as over time she grew into the pillar of the branch.
Funny clip here that she wants you to forget about:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6-1o6iZE50&t=6160
Obsydia was the sister gen to Lazulight, they were actually hired as part of the same batch, deciding amongst themselves who would debut in gen 1 or 2. The star talent of this gen was none other than Selen Tatsuki, whose brash personality quickly made her the top talent numberswise. Unlike Lazulight, Obsydia was characterized by a complete lack of unity and poor team dynamics. However they were smarter, and better gamers, and would win competitions.

All was well, the time of peace and tranquility. Perhaps the best group in all of vtubing was right here.

But it couldn't last. Unfortunately as people feared, within 2 months another gen was rushed out called Ethyria. Unlike the previous gens, they joined with firm expectations of success. When these expectations were not met, they started to leech however they could. They didn't show their true colors until a bit later.

In December, Luxiem debuted. This is really when things went south. They rocketed into extreme popularity, especially with chinese fans and asian fujos generally. Suddenly they were getting 10k+ streams, something the branch had never seen before. Smelling money, management instantly pushed out the next male gen Noctyx. It received a somewhat lesser reception, especially because it included a woman.
The popularity of these male gens had a profound impact on the branch. The fanbase was flooded with the most disgusting people on earth, fujos, who completely ruined it for everyone else. Also Ethyria, with dollar signs in their eyes, threw themselves at the males and became nothing but male-orbiters, each taking a male ship for themselves. This prompted the Lazulight and Obsydia girls to follow suit, tenuously because of extreme backlash from their core fans. It was probably the darkest times, a time when almost all of the original fans were purged.
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It had a side effect of ruining HoloEN as well. The NIjiEN formula was shown to be successful and was making gigatons of money, they quickly announced auditions for Holostars EN.

These previous waves were supposed to normalize mixed-gender content.
Next, NijiEN would debut some mixed-waves, but this proved to be a catastrophic mistake. The branch was already falling into scandals as the mixed-gender interactions caused feelings of anger and betrayal (on both sides, with luxnoc fans too). The mixed waves proved to be an absolute disaster.
ILuna debuted to a massive reception, 120k+ watching, and 2 months later they were all 3-views. At that time nobody in NijiEN was a 3view (well except Petra of course), this was shocking.
XSoliel was somehow even dumber, bringing aboard 2 japanese talents who never streamed in English, and a girl who was fired after 2 months.

The abominable hiring decisions, the extreme drop in quality, the loss of any soul for twitch memes and pog emotes. It was catastrophic.

Quietly behind the scenes, the core fans were moving on this entire time. But in early 2023, the male talents started bitching about their concert getting cancelled and throwing tantrums and protests. This, combined with new regulations in china, caused the female fandom to start rapidly collapsing. Numbers were imploding extremely badly, and everyone was freaking out. They started creating drama after drama to get their numbers back, but this just dug their grave deeper.

By late 2023, TTT debuted. A half-assed, low-effort gen that didn't even have a proper name, debut song, or anything. Their debut would soon be completely forgotten, as Selen experienced a breakdown and was terminated from the company. Being the leading female talent by a huge margin, this was shocking. The details of the bullying scandal and her suicide attempts emerged.

After this point, everyone's already-collapsed viewers were immediately cut in half. Luckily Pomu graduated just before the disaster and went on to become a darling of the indie world. Perhaps one of the greatest moves a vtuber has ever made in history (she was going to work in a library! are you kidding me?)

Today the branch is in its death throws. The most recent gen barely scrapes 100 viewers, and already has a termination.

>>91523099
Was the opposite for me until that gremlin showed up. Still feels overwhelming to get all this idol stuff going on with a vtuber, and all the multilanguage stuff.

>>91524643
This is actually an excellent rundown

>>91524778
Now you know what proper vtubing is like. I'm glad you found your way, Grem.

>>91523099
I genuinely know nothing about holos other than my oshi and the ones she (unfortunately) interacts with.

>>91523099
After January 3rd, you'll be forced to watch an indie and Phase Connect all of the time and anti Hololive. Rules are rules. Will you do what they tell you?

>>91525025
>January 3rd
Can you elaborate more, phasenigger?

>>91524821
I know this is bait, but I can see why some get into their groups. Does it make sense that indies almost feel more like the older taste of vtubing, sometimes?
Kizuna Ai just putting up some video, acting odd, glitching out. In a way, Neuro is like some genuine version of that AI stuff, and the early lack of concerts etc for just playing any videogame that popped up felt fun, too. There are tons of game-focused vtubers in indie spaces.
HoloJP with Gamers had that spark for me too, and I remember Okayu talking about like, how they signed up originally to play games and not necessarily sing. But look now, she has songs and does all kinds of things. Maybe people just have different ideas of what they want out of vtubing, and there is no true ideal?

>>91523099
Thats a good thing bruh

>>91523589
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED

>>91523099
i genuinely know nothing about hololive

>>91526185
Then you've never watched actual vtubers.

>>91523589
You're needed in great supply chief
An all out blitzkreig this January

>>91526238
I watch Neuro, the only actual, real VTuber

>>91523099
Ironic since Gigi impregnated many of them and never called back.

>>91526264
Non-holos aren't vtubers.

>>91526321
not even us?

>>91526321
Vtubers predate Hololive.

>>91524643
I feel bad for Holostars still. There's a place for male vtubers out there, and I know Betel has been great at what he does. NijiEN's attempts really spiraled things out of control, but the lack of drama around mixed gender collabs has been one of indie's greatest pros. If not for that, holo all the way

>>91526556
I don't watch them much but their singing and MVs always impress me.

>>91526745
Don't answer obvious bait, anon. Anons are just having fun waiting for their oshi to stream

>>91527036
more like shitposting cause their holo "oshis" are boring as fuck

>>91525688
NTA but what's with Neurofag deluded themselves into thinking that their AI slop is closer to real vtubing? Kizuna AI is also thick in idol image that she got album and concerts also you're just an EOP newfag if you think concerts and stuff is something new, there are multiple concerts since 2018, for example TubeOut 1 and Niconico cho party 2018

>>91523099
that's a good thing.

>>91523099
I use to be the same way. I would heard about Ironmouse or Pippa but that's about it. After the Selen stuff and the Gura drought I check out so many other vtubers. I'm glad I did but at the same time I see now why Gura avoid everyone. So much drama and passive aggressive power plays.

>>91525000
I hope it's bait
Your kind bothers me, she is visibly happy and all you can do is being bitter, pfft.

>>91529811
There's so much pfftposting recently, can't tell if you're too obvious or if people are picking up some new reference, but if it's the former, cut it out. If you're gonna be anonymous, act like it.

There are some things that you can only find outside hololive. Like, for instance, for her 3D debut this chuuba decided to dance the Uma Musume main theme song on top of a pad that is completely covered in anal lube. The end result is something totally kino as she tries her hardest to do the dance but keeps slipping and falling on her ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26PHinN3g8Q

>>91523099
same

>>91531803

>>91524643
An excellent qrd, cheers anon

>>91523099
Good, we don't need you

>>91531014
I find it relatively common here, it's fine if you don't have anything to add I wasn't expecting a reply anyways

>>91532244
>we

>>91531803
>for her 3D debut this chuuba decided to dance the Uma Musume main theme song
cute
>anal lube
why?

>>91531803
Jesus, I hope Hololive will never hire anyone like her

>>91524643
good read. TIL there was a tranny in NijiEN

>>91523099
rape