/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>91401858
Ngl, the Selen drama was like watching Der Untergang. This Twisty/Aster drama is some art house bullshit. Nothing makes sense.

>Who?

>>91401858
The leaks also have twistys actual personal accounts linked in them. And this one is not one of them

>>91401858
>https://x.com/51U1_4_2UN

I thought this was all the doing of the "twistyschizo" boogeyman, now all of a sudden it's some paypig groomer who was friends with her? It's hard to keep up with all the pathological lying from you freakshows...

>>91402044
That’s the twistyschizo. Check the account creation date

>>91401971
Yeah, but the handle is legit, and you can still find plenty of her old posts if you look it up. She changed it a few months ago and didn’t realize someone could hijack it.

>>91402075
They are all the same person.

>>91402087
interesting...

>>91402551
I bet Frank was also the one who convinced her to abandon that handle

>>91402075
>qrd
Frank = Twistyschizo. He’s been /here/ for months and used to spam twisty threads trying to get people to hate her. In those threads he would routinely attempt to doxx her. He managed to get into her groomcord by being a little pay piggie. He befriended her and acted as a confidant to her worries and concerns. At some point the twisty bait threads stop and he disappears from /here/ until the leaks drop late November. Twisty was aware the doxxing was happening and privates/deletes what she can to prevent it. The schizo is able to get a hold of her original handle and uses that account to further trick people. There are 2 reigning theories of what’s happening:

Theory 1: the schizo ended up being an actual groomer. Hes been trying to get twisty fired for months and tried to create hate for her by spamming the board. Once she was gone from Niji she’d be distraught and he’d have a perfect shoulder for her to cry on.

Theory 2: the schizo is a hardcore twisty anti. All of this was a ruse to get people to hate her. Anons point to her collab with denpafish in September as his “tipping point” so to speak.

Which ever theory you want to believe, he then got into contact with False and when False didn’t report on the story fast enough, he began leaking it to small drama channels and then eventually /here/. False had some integrity and kept 99% of the leaks private and only reported on the Aster situation. As of now, this is all I know. Let me know if something is wrong.

Honestly, this is the main reason why vtubers should stay the fuck away from fans

>>91401858
poorfags always seething

>>91402717
Doesn't this clear aster, though?

He seems like a guy who would send her a gift with a gps tracker and then come to her home with a sledgehammer.

>>91401858
OP is twisty btw, trying to deflect

>>91402769
That goes without saying. Twisty seems extremely easy to manipulate though, not even just because she's menhera, but mainly because she constantly talks about being financially unstable. Its like she purposefully makes herself a mark for these kinds of guys.

>>91402927
Not necessarily. Twisty still told the schizo about Asters behavior. Personally I think he uses that situation as a way to justify himself for leaking everything. Theory 1 would say that he wanted to be seen as a hero by her while Theory 2 would say that he can use the Aster situation as a valid reason to bring Twisty down (2 birds 1 stone)

>>91402927
No cause False also talked to Twisty.

>>91403286
That's probably the reason she's getting terminated desu. There's a bit of difference between venting to a fan and speaking with the press.

>>91402769
Exactly. If you're a corpo vtuber you should never be messaging fans in private. It's a terrible idea for so many reasons.

>>91403224
Yup. So far, we haven't seen anything that could imply that Twist was lying about Aster. And considering that the groomer has been leaking everything he has just to hurt Twisty, it's safe to assume that we would have seen some incriminating screenshots by this point if she was lying

>>91402717
Theory 2 makes a lot of sense.

>>91401858
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>91403171
Aren't they the marks? She's milking them for thousands of dollars in exchange for e-dating.

>>91402717
How do you handwave a "he somehow managed to steal her twitter" that's not something someone can just do at will.

>>91403372 (me)
And I guess there's also the possibility that somehow Twisty and the groomer (Frank) are working together, but that's so retarded for obvious reasons that I don't even consider it plausible

...then again, this year has been completely retarded and all the rrats are real, so who the fuck knows anymore

>>91403496
Cause that account was made in September.

>>91403496
NTA but twisty abandoned her original handle and got a new one around the time when she befriended the groomer, so he probably knew about it or even gave her the idea

>>91403496
If you delete your Twitter account, somebody can take the handle later.
Or, at least you could, at one point. I have no idea how it is since Musk bought it..

>>91402717
>He befriended her
This part confuses me. How do these unhinged schizo spergs befriend these girls? Like that's not supposed to be an easy thing you know. Just suddenly invading your circle of friends.

>>91403568
>gave her the idea
that would track with the groomer playbook of isolate and increase dependency

>>91403633
By giving them money when they are 1 or 2 views or being the only person in chat talking to them

>>91403586
It's fucking dumb, because if you check all the account replies you will see all the legit tweets that the real Twisty made years ago. It's fucking nuts that twitter doesn't delete the old tweets if you delete your account

>>91403515
The worst part of all this is how absolute stupid this all is.
Some retard is playing psycho games using this board and its anonimity to warp the situation into absolute confusion where we cant tell what the fuck is real anymore.
The twitter? May or may not be fake.
The threads? May or may not be Twisty.
Some replies? Definitely the schizo doing shit.
The reasoning may be this or that.
Aster may be a pest or not.
And not because of people, the collective but its clearly some schizo playing games to throw everything into shit.

>>91403633
twisty sent me a dm on her PL account, she literally doesn't give a shit

>>91403757
Sure she did.

>>91402927
no, since False got in touch with the real twisty to confirm. that is unless false was also tricked but I wouldn't think so (it'd be funny if he was however).

I wouldn't be surprised at all that twisty is on a self-destructive mission on her way out because she gets like 130 viewers anyway, niji did fucking nothing for her, literally worse performance than several small corpos. you could say it's her fault but not really, it's the fact 92% of the nijiEN fanbase is women or gay now and it's fucking pointless to introduce more girls who want to stand alone as cute girls. the remaining dudes in the nijiEN fandom are just vestigial remnants at this point, old fans of lazusydia basically. if management wanted to own le incel chuds so badly at the cost of everything else, well they got what they wanted, they don't watch or participate in anything from nijisanji anymore. it's the concord of vtubers.

>>91403735
And that's why streamers should stay the fuck away from /here/. This should be just a containment board for all the schizos, and not the central hub for all the fucking community

>>91402769
yes stay away from schizo fans, but should marry me

>>91401858

>>91403896
nobody asked twisty to come here, and actually I don't have high confidence she's here at all vs her psycho groomer just being a fucking faggot and her being way too naive (or just desperate for oiler bux) to see it.

>>91402927
no unless the sexpesting allegations are fake too

twisty trying really hard to get fired from nijisanji but nothing's working

>>91402932
if op is twisty you are the groomer

>>91403836
I don't know, I have read all the logs and they didn't give me the impression that Twisty particularly dislikes Niji. She hates her current situation, but she mostly blames it to the company's current reputation, the antis and the dramatubers. I don't think she is THAT self destructive.

>>91403964
I mean, its no secret livers are here and definitely stir shit themselves.
Wouldn't even be surprised if Aster himself is the schizo on this site.

>>91403994
Just talk about how much she hates blacks on stream and get the channel banned, that'll get her out quick

>>91404041
>Twisty is a niji bootlicker
Imagine my shock!

>>91404077
Twisty being a genuine sister is probably the only reason why she hasn't been terminated (yet)

>>91401858
>got groomed
She deserves it

Has anybody gotten JimothyShitpenisCh's opinion on the drama? He's still dead silent on the issue.

>>91403829
how do you think people like frank and all the other people got in, she invited them (which is insanely retarded, but too late to point this out)

>>91404121
I dont think Anycolor and Riku care about that if she broke NDA.

Nice try nijishits and aster
you can't bury this drama

>>91403405
this guy sounds manipulative as fuck just like the scarle conversation, almost like this is sexpesting competition or the same guy

>>91404218
Woah man, maybe Frank is Aster the whole time

>>91404158
I mean, Luca broke his NDA too... Sure, he makes more money than twisty, but it still counts as a valid example of a bootlicker who got away with just a slap in the wrist.

>>91404262
Hes not a bootlicker, hes a top earner for EN with Vox in a situation where the branch is already in a shit situation about money. Twisty makes nothing for EN to warrant keeping her.

>All the rrats are real
Ok, sure. My rrat is that Quinn was the one who leaked the original screenshots back in February, and he is also the organ who sent the DM to Raziel to accuse Aster of harassment. He graduated right after that, so he didn't have anything to lose. And he literally didn't waste any time to throw him under the bus.

>>91404321
>Luca
>Not a bootlicker
...what?

>>91403633
Actually very common for small corpos and indies which is why so many of them eventually put out some sort of statement about how they're not going to date their viewers
What's more surprising is that it worked on a big corpo vtuber, but maybe this is a sign that NijiEN is quickly falling into small corpo-tier irrelevancy. Guarantee you'd never see something like this in Niji JP, they're still too big to get groomed and managers would shut that shit down.

>>91404480
Yes anon, way to ignore the rest.

>>91404392
Inb4 Quinn was LK

>>91403483
Honestly I have no clue who is grooming who anymore. Its like one constantly shifting game of cat and mouse, Twisty is making herself extremely reliable on these groomers but she also seems to be taking them for a ride.

>>91404524
I only have a problem with that particular claim about Luca not being a bootlicker

>>91404392
You mean the Scarle ones?
From what we saw, the recipient was Aster. Which would mean Scarle was the one who took the screenshots.

>>91401858
what is frank's youtube name?

>>91404685
I don't think we need to know that and have no means of doing so either.

>>91404150
Fucking pervert.

>>91404635
The screenshots were taken while Scarle was on a call with Luca, but I don't believe even for a second that he was the leaker. My guess is that he showed them to other organs to prove that Aster was a schizo, and that was how the real leaker (Quinn) got them

There's also the fact that the one who got in contact with Raziel said that Aster was trying to "guilt trip multiple female talents", and that's the exact same wording and phrasing that Quinn used when he talked about his personal experiences with Aster

>>91404874 (me)
Anyway, I know that this thread is about twisty, but the leaks from February are still relevant because they support her claims about Aster

>>91404573
LovelocK
trust the plan

>>91404821
sorry

>>91401858
twisty was frank all along, we just need a clip of her saying "to be frank"

ALL RRATS ARE REAL
PRAISE THE RRATGOD!

>>91404392
Wait, Kyo did retweet the black frame stream either...

>>91404321
the flip is still making money despite terrible CCV and the revelations about faking his signature for merch? Sisters have 0 standards when it comes to their fagboys

>>91405238
meant didn't, i am retarded

>>91404685
Colonelcuddlebear
Saw his name on Twistys chat.

>>91405290
that's a different paypig, you can see frank talk about him in the screenshots

>>91405242
I am sure there was a report that like 70 or 80% of viewers are female. Those are the cancer fangirls where livers could legit murder people on stream and piss on them, they would scream "OOOH YES MILORD, BURP INTO MY PUSSY".

>>91405290
>>91404685
btw its the same on twitch
https://i.imgur.com/PSk3PX3.png

>>91404627
that’s every woman who gets groomed desu
nabokov’s lolita was a cautionary tale

>>91405387
To be fair, I kind of get it. Marine killing someone wouldn't stop me from wanting to suck her nipples while she jerks me off

>>91401858
This is why paypigs are dangerous and why Mel Nekomata having one is the dumbest thing she's done so far. As an indie you should never have paypigs, it will bite you in the ass if you ever go corpo.
>>91403633
They don't start out as that. Once you start denying them or they get comfy being your paypig you are obligated to them. The denial is what makes them go schizo

>>91405290
two different people

>>91405290
Don't confuse me with that piece of shit

>>91405478
holy fvcking based

>>91405387
>piss on them
>BURP INTO MY
I'm pretty sure most vtuber guys would be happy with a girl doing that too

>>91405290
hi Frank

>>91405422
Twisty hanging with a dude that actually retweets shit about kissing 9 year old wives.

>>91405839
Jesus, that entire account is either discuss Twisty or just retweet lolis lewds.

>>91405242
People still give Mikeneko money, so let's not pretend that men have higher standards

>>91405902
Look, I think I can fix her and I really like her boobs.

>>91405902
Yeah cause she actually said she is looking for a boyfriend and wouldn't mind a foreigner.

>>91405839
>>91405893
...based?

>>91406671
>return to origin
If this account is real, Twisty is dead

>>91406671
It’s literally the schizos account. Dont fall for it

>>91406671
Stop posting your tweets here Frank

>>91406809
https://x.com/TwistyAmanozako/status/1867282897297977449?t=yYiW7oYk-xQfnCodENWNxA&s=19

I don't think she's dead

Did False really get baited by somebody else's schizo anti

>>91403405
It really sounds like in his schizo mind he thought False would just publish the leaks and didn't expect him to have the journalistic integrity to actually ask Twisty directly about it first. But since False isn't a total grifter he just forwarded it all to her instead, and when she confronted him about it he completely backpedaled. He should have leaked to Khyo or one of the other less reputable dramafag channels.

>>91407115
Nope.

>>91407115
Yup. And it's fucking hilarious

>>91407221
?

>>91407115
Maybe.

Are small streamers always full of drama? This is so entertaining

>>91405290

>>91404874
kek i hate that grifter quinn but he did gods work if he was the leaker.
that scarle leak alone 1000% warrants a termination, literally fucking "why are you making me hit you" psycho vibes from that incel fuck.

But this is nijisanji the cartoon villain corp, where the management are sociopaths, the organs are sociopaths, and the fans are hyper giga sociopaths. nothing short of trying to drug and rape a woman is gonna make them kick out that fag (maybe).

>>91404392
>Quinn was the original leaker
This is actually surprisingly plausible

>>91406809
it's not

Imagine being groomed by your own paypig. What a fucking retard.

>>91401858
Imagine if this all happened to a holomem. Would be a Rushia-tier yab. But it's just another Thursday in shitsanji.

>>91407720
that'd also explain why he just kinda left suddenly. funny thing is because nobody here liked kyo at all he just kinda vanished out of existence and people were like 'whatever' since nobody cared whether or not he actually leaked something.

>>91405290
>>91405422
wrong, it's most likely nhk conspirator
https://imgur.com/zxZEiUa
I'm currently reading his chat logs on twisty's chat, the way he types kinda matches

>>91404955
MORE LIKE LOVESCOCK

>>91403515
>>91403735
>>91403896
>>91403964
>>91404060
Everyone is /here/
All rrats are Real.
Welcome to 4chan, enjoy your stay.
Isn't anonymous posting fun?

>>91404821
>Ask how schizos get in girl's DM
>Someone tells him this one girl doesn't care about opsec
>Doesn't believe him
>Shows proof
>calls them pervert
that mofo might be a degenerate but you are genuinely a fucking retard

>>91402075
Hi Frank! Could you do a .380 lead injection into your temple? :3

>>91407115
Whatever the paypig is doing, it's alien to the things Twisty told to False. If anything, it means Aster was a random collateral damage that just happened to be bullseye lmao

>>91403836
If she gets terminated for leaking, and nothing happens to the creep guy, how does she come out of this?
On a scale of Zaion to Selen, where would Twisty fall? I mean in the sense of sympathy boost, anti-influx, etc., etc.

How do women even manage to get groomed anyway lmao just don't send him nudes you dumb bitch turn off the computer and go outside.

>>91411818
Probably more than Zaion at first, but it won't last long
>She is a sister
>Made racist comments
>She is not a good streamer
>Very easily groomable
>Schizo

>>91411990
So pretty much that girl from... Idol? the one who was groomed into quitting for sexing one of the staffers
Last thing I knew, she was doing fine, as much as you can say about that.

>>91401858
>who groomed twisty and leaked all the discord screenshots has also hijacked the old twitter handle of her PL account.
Welcome back from the company, Anon. that has been known /here/ for a while now...

>>91407631
Fuck, ok it's somebody else.

So let me get this straight
>Twisty is in touch with her paypigs in DM's and redirects them to her PL to bypass corpo tax
>she is spilling internal affairs to them and how she's depressed
>she shared how Aster got upset at her repeating a joke for their whole collab to the point it made him write up a blog to her ranting about it
>Twisty sees this as sexual harassment or something, but not her trying to do incest pandering with that black guy
>she has "proof" he did something similar to her indie friends
>one paypig goes schizo and turns anti
>he tries to use her DM's by sharing them to False and frames it like she's an awful person
>he doesn't buy it and contacts Twisty herself, confirming the Aster stuff and leads to her confronting the paypig
>paypig starts leaking to other drama channels and tries to get her hated by spamming threads here for months
>after it became pretty known, False reports on the leaks, with a focus on Aster and omitting most of the other shit
>Aster is suspended before his 3D, Anycolor launches an investigation to confirm if Aster was a sexpest and leaker's identity
>schizo reactivates Twisty's PL handle and starts larping as her, while Twisty posts on main
Yet all of this pales in comparison to the fact it confirms Twisty is a chocolate goddess.

>>91402717
It does suck how any mention of not liking Twisty causes you to get confused with that subhuman Frank now, because it's the easy out. I just don't like her because she stuck around after the Selen incident and made a buncha shitty jokes, but the past handful of times I've brought it up it's people screaming at me that I'm some guy whose ever actually heard more than 3 minutes of her voice.

>>91413667
This. I'm interested in this drama and I think she is a victim, but holy fucking shit, I couldn't care less about her after that joke.

>>91409909
even his youtube handle is "idiotWasTaken", that pretty much confirms it, I don't think it's a decoy because that account has been active on her chat since her 30th public stream

>>91407115
yes, im not sure the bigger dramafags will report on all this cause it sounds way too schizo and nobody knows if frank and twisty are working together or whats real or not, best case scenario its just some fat schizo trying to gaslight a dumb girl but who wants to get involved in that?

>>91401858
wow as it turns out every single niji and the people who associate with them are as black on the inside as kurosanji
and nothing of value was lost

>>91407115
It's bound to happen sometimes desu

>>91413667
I mean, no one liked her before the drama, so it's not like there's been some sudden shift. She was already even less popular than Aster, and that's not easy to do.

Guys Twistys friends (the actual ones she name dropped) literally follow the account it’s not frank

>>91407115
would it be that much of a surprise?

>>91415267
uh oh twistybros...

>>91404517
Twisty is borderline a 2view, she is smaller than some actual small corpotubers

Don't people have anything better to do than schizoing for some retarded streamer?

>>91415532
I will say she has two other accounts, one is that private one an anon posted earlier and another

>>91415267
It was her actual account at one point but no longer is. She deleted it, frank stole the handle, and then pay pigs and friends don’t confirm if it’s her real account but follow it anyways. Pretty simple.

>>91416093
>and friends
Her friends can talk with her, they'd know.

>>91416093
I highly doubt Relia, Sweaty and Karuva are dumb enough to follow the account and not check with Twisty, or it never coming up in a conversation

>>91416199
If Twisty was using her main to send people to her personals she’d have been fired long ago.

>>91416059
Only two? Not three?

>>91404821
It's the talent's responsibility to not engage with fans on a personal level assuming they care about their reputation with those outside of that. What's to come of seething at some random fag on the internet when there's an endless supply where that came from.

>>91416280
Dude, what kind of cope is this? she even shared her personal accounts with her pay pigs

>>91416464
in the leaked messages the paypigs themselves point out which accounts are twistys real ones

>>91416528
And we're talking about her real friends being able to talk to her in private. There's no reason to believe they would follow a random account after what happened with the groomer without checking with Twisty first

>>91416610
Have you considered the possibility that all of the people involved in this clusterfuck are morons?

>>91404631
The meaning of that sentence isn't "he is not a bootlicker." It's giving a correct reason WHY they treat him better (he makes money).
"X isn't a rich guy, he's the richest guy in the world" would be a similar sentence. X is rich and he's the richest, but the latter carries more weight.

this reminds me of the Froot shit, with one insane retard spamming nonstop about it, except this time it's trying to disprove it

>>91416610
It was her real account at one point until Frank took the handle in September. Her friends noticed they are not longer following and simply refollowed. No reason to double check with her when they believe it to be the real one

>>91416759
Come on, that's just cope, and you know it. If they were her friends, they would at least ask what's going on with her and whether she should be tweeting on her PL account while Nijisanji is doing their investigation

>>91413349
She's only half black sorry chocolate bros

>>91405478
If Marine killed someone, you'd at least think something weird was going on because that's not like her.
Luca or Vox killing someone wouldn't surprise anyone. Only Ike and Shu would raise eyebrows.

>>91416759
The only possible counter evidence to this rrat is people /here/ knew about this sus account popping up at least a month ago. If Twisty is truly as /here/ as everyone claims, surely she would've seen it and cried foul at the imposter on her cunny retweets account, right?

I don't get it

>>91404183
mr. koro's evil voice is my favorite thing in the world.

>>91416719
if your only answer is "everyone is stupid" then it isn't true

>>91416752
The richest guy in the world changing his name to X is a very real possibility desu

>>91410695
i just talked to her normally, she was cool until it was clear to me how menhera she is
good taste in porn though.

>>91416868
Call it whatever you want, but the fact is that twisty has 3 possible accounts right now. 2 are protected and 1 is believed to be fake (the one we’re discussing). her friends and her paypigs are following different, sometimes multiple, accounts. Maybe it’s her real account and im a fucking idiot, who fucking knows, but I fully believe that account to be fake.

>>91417442
Imagine naming your child X Æ A-12

>>91402717
Man, that's a lot of effort to maybe get some pussy. Couldn't he have just taken a shower, dressed nice, and gone outside?

>>91417791
Only the immense wealth keeps him from being bullied to death

>>91418214
I'd use said immense wealth and poorly chosen name to become an evil cyborg overlord

>>91404150
I wonder if she learned that from finana

>>91417038
The fake account has always been an obscure rrat with little actual evidence besides “gut feeling” and hasn’t been seriously discussed once her generals stopped. She may have been content in ignoring it since the account has been fairly innocuous until this past week when it started gaining more traction.

>>91404150
A couple of years ago I got a DM from an indie vtuber I used to watch, telling me how much she liked my art. Shit was weird. She ended up adding me on discord, and we became somewhat friends until she graduated, but I preferred it when I was just a random fan and didn’t have to deal with her woman moments. Just stay in your lane, jesus fucking christ.

lol theres more posts... imagine setting a bank fund for some neet not to be called into their LoL games

>>91418678
some indies are practically begging to be groomed

>>91418678
Just needs a strong male figure in their lives do they don't have to depend on Internet strangers

>>91401858
trying too hard, twisty

>>91418678
yeah this was my first time experiencing something like this and it's way easier just being a fan. thankfully i didn't ask her anything about the company so i can safely wash my hands off this shit

Man, I am really not into Twisty but FFS, this shit(meme) about women who genuinely get groomed into saying/doing things that have negative effects on their lives is simply amazing. (I see you, Yuko).

Honestly dont know if Twisty is that stupid or just such a mental mess to vent it all to a guy she only knows from being a paypig.

>>91419285
And here is a problem too. Even if people wanna support her, odds are she aint gonna trust anyones good will after this shitshow.

>>91418539
Didn't her generals stop before the fake account even existed? That URL used to direct to the real account, it's the whole reason this fake works; all her delulu deliria socials directed to a dead URL, so when someone claims it they get all these free "verified" inbound links. It's literally an X.com security exploit.

>>91419380
I think that's a good thing. She should be trusting other vtubers, not fans. Vtubers have a lot more to lose by being a schizo cunt, so they're far less likely to stab her in the back, unless she's so out of line she probably deserves it.

uh oh

When can we expect Anycolor to announce anything?

>>91419561
>https://x.com/ArialYuriko/status/1867359796367671476
>isreal
THE RRATS
ALL THE RRATS ARE REAL
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM

>>91419561
Does this not confirm its her Twitter?

>>91419637
They’re going to sit on their ass as long as possible

>>91402044
There are 3 accounts based on her Youtube channels. The main delulu deliria, the 51U1 with underscores (OP), and the 51U1 without underscores and "1" in the end.

>>91419748
>>91419710
Like I said this bitch has three accounts, her friends follow them all

>>91419561
Yeah, Twisty is dead. It's weird that she is still using her main account tho.

>>91419561
so she's gone?

>>91419748
Yes. Unless something absurdly retarded just happened, this would make it a real account.

>>91401858
Where are the streams, Twisty? Last stream: 5 days ago

>>91419875
damn this frank dude killed her and became his oishi

>>91419561
Omg, it's my wife Shee!!!

>>91419875
it could be her idgaf fire me moment and she's doing whatever she wants before they can her

>>91419978
>oishi

>>91419978
It's just like my animes

>>91419561
Welp... I'm the idiot who's been defending the fake account rrat pretty heavily these past few days. Guess it turns out that I was the real schizo all along. My bad...

>>91420100
With fava beans and a nice Chianti

>>91419637
They're only going to deal with the leaker and try to deal with those who received and promulgated leaks, to whatever modicum of success they could hope to achieve on that front. Though the niji leaker is fucked, they might send impotent scary letters to the dramanigs; anything more would be a waste of their money.
Aster will get off scot-free of course.
Maybe before the end of the year and hope it all gets overshadowed by the hustle and bustle of year's end?

>Frank won
THE RRATS ARE FEASTING

>>91401858
Where do these Discord screens keep coming from? And what is POMF?

>>91420245
Dissenting viewpoints are necessary and you need to push for them until refutation cannot be denied. It's healthy for this sea of piss.
It's not leddit after all.

>>91420504
they're all from that leak. pomf.tv is THE pedophile paradise. All the streamers are loli models pretty much

>>91420504
Pomf is a site where the actual scum of the web like Bittycat reside.

>>91419561
OP here. Welp. Fuck. She is retarded.

>>91420504
It's "twitch", but it's for nsfw loli/shota/diaper/furry porn related streaming.

>>91420854
OP doubling down on his rrat and saying Arial is just utterly retarded? A bold move. I gotta respect it.

>>91420969
No, I'm convinced that the PL account is the real deal. Twisty is the retarded one.

>>91421048
>Twisty is the retarded one.
How so? What am I missing?

>>91420504
>And what is POMF
new

https://x.com/51u1_4_2un/status/1867275548919312398
>https://x.com/51u1_4_2un/status/1867285117817041016
>return to origins
>im waiting for you/looking forward to seeing you
>don't worry, that won't happen
Dramafags tell me what the fuck this even means

>>91419854
From the screenshots someone posted a couple days ago I think
>Frank calls notTwisty from the screenshots "Del"
>notTwisty appears in groomcord VCs as "lulu"
>other groomcorders from the VC prints appear talking to notTwisty
So notTwisty and delulu deliria are the same

>>91421219
>What am I missing?
Ayi coake in yer mauff

>>91417046
Someone is larping as Twisty on twitter with a fake account
Real one: https://x.com/51U142UN1
Fake one: https://x.com/51U1_4_2UN
The real one has also been abandoned ever since she purged her followers and she has went back to her PL twitter (which is also private)

>>91422118
Anon, you are late
Both of them are real

>>91402717
makes sense at this point.
Jesus christ, what a loser.
I kneel to those who thought TwistySchizo was real, but not to the idiot who kept calling me them whenever I said she was boring.

What even is this schizo shit goddamn

>>91422118
>fake
anon...

>>91401858
he's right, groomercords are fucking awful and anyone who has them should be ignored

>>91401858
Now that we know the account is real... is twisty still following frank?

>>91423782
This was all planned by both of them

>>91423782
No. You can check all 34 of the accounts she follows.

>>91424056
she does actually

>>91424574
Does she even have full access to that account since the whole drama started? Wouldn't unfollowing with her corpo account be used as confirmation of leaks? Corpo account follows don't mean much.

Looks like he is posting retarded shit trying to spin what she posts on her real accounts
>she posts this (pic related) (11 hours)
>twistyschizo goes to his fake account and posts a rrat (6 hours ago)
Not saying she isn't terminated. She very clearly is or at the very least suspended but that account is a very clear fake

>>91424574
lol
lmao even
Twisty a fucking retard. Holy shit.

>>91424574
Why the fuck does she follow him on twisty

>>91424056
>new rrat: Frank is a paid actor meant to promote notTwisty and False

THE RRATS
THEY ARE EVOLVING

>>91425380
L leak confirms suspension

>>91426133
L leak?

>>91425380
The "fake" account is real unless Arial has 2IQ. It should be impossible for her to fuck that up.
Also why the fuck are there still locked account leaking faggots /here/?

>>91426630
To kill your schizo rrats

>>91426703
>To kill your schizo rrats
Which rrat does this even kill? Most people knew the locked account you leaked here is hers. The rrat in this thread is that 51U1_4_2UN is a fake. Recently believed disproven because Arial is organising a collab with Delulu Deliria, and has linked that "fake" as her account.

>>91425380
I think this is actually Twisty because that account has like 20 followers

>>91422118
>>91421530
>>91413349
Even without this thread, if you put 5 min into browsing archives (or the web, really) you'll see Twisty = Delulu Deliria = the 51U1 couple accs

>>91426630
Multiple indie/small corpo/ex small corpo also follow Twisty's new account so it's not Arial alone. Unlikely that it's fake

>>91417404
Anon, remember where you are and who we are talking about
Hell, remember Niji

>>91405422
lol all the names from the screenshots... sad time for spiritmates. worst thing is that this colonel dude seems super into pedo content (but so is notTwisty, so)
>>91423555
delulu YT links to the X account with the underscores

>>91416980
Oh, so, she's Malekith?

>>91409909
How do you see someone's chat logs

>>91430878
Initially there were very few vtubers that followed both the PL account and what is presumably her personal account. I finally sort of understand what's going on with the three accounts.
The original deluludeliria account is a graveyard. She has now split her twitter into into two accounts, personal and professional, instead of combining them into one like she used to, and part of that was essentially retiring her old PL so the new one doesn't have any personal details about her life in it.
Still don't know the full timeline of how long she left the account name open for, which would reveal if it were the plan from the start when she changed account names or not.

>>91420504
>>91431265
>>91405290
frank and colonel are different people. The funny thing is that the latter is most likely who notTwisty was referring too in the screenshots from the past days

I'm lost. Is Twisty still being groomed or not?

>>91433844
Plot twist, we are all being groomed by her.

>>91433844
Yes
She is a insane menhera that never worked a day in her life and she knows that her paypigs are the only way for her to stay alive

>>91433844
Afaik nothing changed, things just came into the spotlight and it seems her corpo account is being run by management.

>>91433844
Yeah she plays into these guy's pedophile fantasies for money. One step above prostitution, but that's how it is for a lot small corpos.

>>91434448
This is now confirmed. That Coddlebear whatever has his entire Twitter full of Loli retweets.
Not the usual kind either but literally retweeting shit about kissing 9 year old wives.

>>91431732
I made some python scripts that download and analyze the chat of vods of any channel. A version of the script returns a spreadsheet that has every message or superchat found in the chat logs by any user by providing their channel id.

>>91434429
>it seems her corpo account is being run by management.
based on what?

>>91436405
I am sure at least one of her friends would speak up if this isn't her.

>>91436405
>isreal
Twisty bros... Frank won...

>>91402717
How likely is that the schizo is denpa herself? That woman is crazy

>>91401858
Why is he typing like that?

>>91436405
Graduate and become an indie. Let aster rot in that cesspool forever.

>>91436841
>Graduate
She is getting terminated

>>91436405
Bottom being cut off huh?

>>91436928

>>91436879
I very much doubt it

>>91437239
Nijisanji doesn't allow actual PL activity >>91419561

>>91437375
Depends on what.
Fulgur and Kyrio did tweet while in Niji but did anyone just fullout stream?

>>91437527
They can't stream. Tweeting is usually fine.

>>91437527
Vivi but you know, she was already out to graduate when was streaming with Sunny.

>>91404250
makes way too much sense

>>91438597
I was considering it but nobody is that psychotic to make an Alt to creep on a co-worker, right?

>>91418678
>>91418809
I'll have to learn to draw now.

>>91438748
frank has too much game to be aster

>>91437375
She's just doing exactly what she said she would do in the leaks. Nijisanji doesn't allow PL activity, but legally speaking they can't actually disallow it. So she decided to say fuck you and actually be a honest to god real contractor instead of a de facto employee, and start streaming on both accounts.

>>91438748
even fucking quinn distanced himself from him, and that faggot sided with kenji vs Sayu. I believe this rrat.

>>91439040
>She wants to get terminated
bold strategy

>>91439040
She's gonna keep ramping up the pressure and forcing them to terminate her. Then she'll get a huge popularity boost.
I think she should start "accidentally" leaking some internal secrets, like who's dating who

>>91439081
Not just distanced, he flatout said Aster would try to pounce on the new girls.

>>91439102
She wants to stream on her PL. It's up to Anycolor if she's getting terminated over it.

>>91439222
>Then she'll get a huge popularity boost.
You are overestimating the drama boost.

>>91439335
It's difficult to predict the outcomes of drama. She'd be foolish to rely on it, but "huge boosts" are not totally out of the question.

>>91439504
Anon, she is a lolicon, used pomf to stream, she is racist and she is still in contact with her groomer.

Wanna know a secret?

She has BEEN streaming on this new persona for 2 months now. She was in the process of getting a new model rigged months ago, then let her friend get ahead of her in the line

In case you're wondering, the twitter account in question may not be twisty as her real acc is locked. This doesn't necessarily mean that the screenshots were fake or anything. Also this frank guy being the twistyschizo is a completely new rrat out of nowhere

>>91439081
Quinn didn't side with him. He replies to every big indie over a tweet here and there. I saw his timeline and it was pretty much him trying to be a leech.

>>91439276
What, you mean as opposed to them terminating her for whistleblowing their willful inaction regarding a sexual harassment complaint?

>>91439904
>she is still in contact with her groomer
Proof?
>>91439939
I thought she only did literally one stream on it, and maybe a couple collabs when NijiEN was like "nooo, you can't collab because Sayu is there!!" or similar retardation. Could be wrong though.

>>91440677
Depends. Japan has actual laws that would protect whistleblowers from termination if the conditions are met.

>>91440828
>Proof?
Is it that hard to roll the thread a bit?

>>91440828
She’s done at least four, two were collabs, one of which is the Sayu crab game one. During one of her solo streams she talked about being in the process of getting a new model rigged by Relia Laces rigger, and she let her get her spot in the queue line for it

Twisty's wavemate Klara is streaming to members and she just said that there won't be collabs for the foreseeable future

>>91441053
>10k in debt
>but can afford a new model
Huh

>>91441007
I've rolled the thread. Official Twisty following him doesn't mean shit because official twisty is so heavily monitored it can't really communicate with fans full stop. Also unfollowing risks "reputational damage" via soft confirmation of leaks. There's literally no reason to do it unless he starts shitting up her main and gives cause for a block.

>>91441267
What? You don't have several paypigs?

>>91441249
It's never been so over.

>>91441249
Sorry, I need to make sure what precisely had been said.

>>91441831
She said your gay__________________________________________________________________________________________

>>91441455
>>91441831
It's a lie, she was just drawing food

>>91440921
That's probably what they're "investigating," a way to fire the whistleblower(s) without violating Japanese whistleblower protection laws.
It is my understanding that it's illegal to fire someone for reporting sexual harassment, but I don't know if it's equally illegal to fire someone for reporting nonsexual harassment; or for disclosing the fact that they did report sexual harassment, but HR chose to take no action on the report. And they might get her on something else anyway (i.e. the fact that she never once tweeted that she hates donkeys and tomatoes could be covered under their very-poorly-defined "betrayal" clause)

>>91402927
lol no. If anything they are upset that the leaked occured instead of being kept in house about the Diva / sex pest behavior.

>>91442112
The Nijisansji catch 22 when they can't change the evidence collected of Aster's behavior in spite of wanting to punish Twisty. We all know the side NijiEN management takes though.

>>91441249
Based, fuck them all.

>>91441249
She said the literal opposite of that

>>91441249
the fact Niji is going for the worst possible option of getting rid of JUST Twisty, I kneel to their stupidity

>>91437375
That's not true, they've the same rules as holo, you just can't stream as another vtuber since they've a noncompete clause, you can do anything you want as long as you do it without using a live2D model.

>>91442539
>I kneel to their stupidity
Ironic

>>91442543
So a png of the model is ok?

>>91442323
No, we do not.
Anycolor will choose whatever way makes them come out the best in all this.
They now have to choose their poison.
If they fire Aster, people may look at them different for finally starting to take responsibility and show they are willing to change. They wont change but you know, make a good impression.
They also could pretend everything is fine and fire Twisty for leaking but that may upset people who are very much firm believers in Asters guilt and eventually could make matters worse for them. This only works on appeasing the Antis though and I am not sure they can afford more antagonization.
They probably can say its fake or all made up, False may be a Grifter but I don't doubt he got receipts of talking to the two which paint Twisty as the liar and once again would fall back on Niji.

>>91442543
>noncompete clause
>contractor
Choose one.

>>91432941
>be bear
>the biggest paypig
>couldn't groom twisty like frank did
bro...

>>91418809
The odds are good but the goods are probably pretty damn odd

>>91442899
Anon, are you retarded?
https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/how-to-use-a-noncompete-agreement-when-you-work-with-independent-contractors

>>91442988
Already outdated. Noncompetes are illegal nationwide in the US as of mid 2024 for positions below C-suite. They could never enforce one against her now if she lives in the US (no idea if she does desu).

>>91443192
Fair but that's also just in America. They're not exactly under American law they're under Japanese laws

>>91442543
Do these rules apply for holostars too? Because them have streamed on pl accounts.

>>91443301
Niji could terminate their contract with her in Japan using that logic and Twisty wouldn't be able to countersue, but Niji would also never be able to enforce their noncompete after she's out of their contract. She could immediately begin streaming and there'd be nothing Niji could do because they'd have to sue her in US jurisdiction.

>>91401858
She's really not gonna make until 2025 is she...

>>91443343
No
Holostars and Hololive have always operated under different rules

>>91443343
Some of them are active in their PL, but they're not vtubers. Can't talk about starsEN, since I don't watch them.

>>91401858
>groomers lose
>paypigs lose
>chuubas lose
>niji loses
>somehow holofans and sisters also lose
wtf is this drama

>>91401858
Man reading this thread is wild this is like the Jerry Springer of vtubing, this shit is so stupid.
This is why it's really really bad if you're a big corpo and you have talents who get like 140 viewers. That's not enough money for them to act professional and guard their careers, of course they're going to let schizo paypigs get way too close, they aren't making a fucking living

>>91443372
I mean yes, sunny literally started streaming pretty much as soon as she graduated. Same goes for whatever hex is called now and same goes for quinn.
There's a reason why Sayu publicly shared private information and anycolor didn't touch her and why Doki dropped the idea of a lawsuit forever ago.
Whichever party is doing the suing has to go through the process of suing the other one on their home territory.

>>91439222
>>91439504
the drama is far too schizo to sell to saviorfags like with doki, i mean, all the people involved just look like deranged groomers and pedophiles, and twisty doesnt exactly look all that better either with how schizo she is herself

It is fucking over

>>91443727
I dunno what False claims he has up his sleeve, but if we end up in the timeline he reveals his hand, it's possible the normies won't have to delve into schizo shit drama to start saviorfagging her.

>>91443727
Thats the shit part.
Twisty has all the sexpest talk about Aster but its not helping her case having streamed on a site full of Pedos and seemingly being friends with some very people that a lot people would massively disapprove of.

>>91443490
Gavis is very active on PL. But he's not acting as a vtuber there now

>>91443999
I suppose they are allowed to tweet as long as they act responsibly in some ways.

>>91443999
Shinri is vtuber on his PL. Axel and regis also collabed with doki on their vtuber alt accs

>>91443490
Some guys from StarsEN stream as fleshtubers and PNGtubers, but none of them use live2D models.

>>91443932
The fact is most people haven't seen or read through the full leaks. At best they've had tldrs which focus on a schizo weirdo backstabbing her and getting another weirdo killed in the crossfire in a hilarious manner. But for most people all they know is "Aster sex pest, Twisty victim". If NijiEN escalates it laughably poorly, she could get a huge buff without many more facts actually being spread.

>>91444066
It seems like they can do whatever they want; beside linking their identities together.

>>91443932
the thing is maybe she could sell if if she basically cuts off all her friends and says she was just a minor or was gaslight and didnt know any better, but even then there is not a lot of people that would excuse her even if she did condemn all that stuff, not even a guy like Rev that really pushes for loli stuff would defend that since pomf tv and the grooming stuff is a lot more serious that than.

On the other hand I can also see Twisty double down and maybe only cut off Frank but not the rest of her friends/groomers and she'll get torched by normies for that. Her best hope is for Dramafags to only focus on Aster and if she gets terminated too, for them to not cover or dig into her stuff at all.

>>91444117
Thats because the contract defines what counts as a Vtuber. Using 2D or 3D is defined as being a Vtuber but not PNG.

Uh oh
https://x.com/TwistyAmanozako/status/1867431926174560743

>>91444153
You've seen how Twisty is, if the dramatubers actually try and put the spotlight on her theyre just gonna make her schizo out. She didnt even want to be involved to begin with, she was forced.

>>91444229
>BY THE WAY, i quit
weird delivery

>>91444193
Yes, I'm aware. I'm saying this to the guy who didn't know if the same rules apply to StarsEN. They do. None of them use live2D or 3D models outside of Stars.

>>91444229
Aaaand she's killing herself

>>91444191
You gotta be careful when cutting off your groomer paypigs. Learn the lessons from Yuko Yurei; once you cut your groomers there's no going back. If you flop you're fucked, your oilers can't bail you because you killed them. If you come crawling back in shame, you might be able to pull back a few, but you will never reach a wider audience ever again.

>>91444229
Honestly, it was weird that aster vanished and she didn't, you'd think that an investigation like that would freeze the accounts of everyone involved so that they can't delete anything.

>>91444517
She'll be streaming on her pl tho

>>91444563
I thought it was obvious that a corpo wouldn't have control of non-corpo accounts desu.

So this is just like the Yuko but involving edgy racism, pedobait and a grifted conning schizo groomers into funding her new model which be debutted out of drama clout. Spiritmates eat shit.

>>91444229
Yeah, she's fucked.

>>91445641
I'm here for the wrestling tier plotlines and kayfabe, and if you're not full of shit and she legit conned the paypigs into granting her the financial stability to not rely on or need them anymore I'm going to go apeshit cheering for her. What a fucking chad move that'd be.

I’m still slightly confused so are both of those accounts hers but one got hacked by a schizo to make Twisty look bad but then got reclaimed again? Is that’s what’s going on?

>>91446143
51U142UN1 = 51U1_4_2UN = delulu/twisty
no hacking, just some types of content in each that she wanted to hide

>>91446454
Oh I see now, thanks anon

>>91446143
Nah, it's a nothingburger. When you change an account URL on x, the previous URL is open for others to claim. Someone claimed her old PL URL in September with a fresh account. All links originating from outside x will incorrectly link to the fresh account instead of the original.
Anons assumed it was a schizo stealing the open url, but it turns out she claimed it herself.

>Groomertards really thought they could groom a schizo menhera and that she wouldn't just use them for money
Kekaroo

>>91446621
That's still in rrat territory. If it's going to happen, it hasn't happened yet, as far as anyone /here/ knows.