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9109422 No.9109422 [Reply] [Original]

Am I the only one bothered by Risu getting too close to Nijis? Out of like 50 ppl she's the only holo that keeps replying to them

>> No.9109441

>>9109422
Yes

>> No.9109449

>>9109422
Seethe tribalfag

>> No.9109471

>>9109422
>He replied back
What the fuck?!

>> No.9109502

>>9109422
Good for them.
SUX to be you!

>> No.9109517

>>9109422
he has the number, better than holostars

>> No.9109545

>>9109422
Trannies seething kek

>> No.9109569

Risu chases any clout she can get. She replies to vshits too.

>> No.9109584

>>9109471
he bows to the triangle corp

>> No.9109594

>>9109422
She needs to survive somehow

>> No.9109601

>>9109422
Ollie literally did a collab with Gundou Mirei, IDs approaching Nijis is irrelevant

>> No.9109612

>>9109422
If Risu already made you worried then you gonna have a heart attack upon seeing what Matsuri already did

>> No.9109616

>>9109584
He wants treerat floof.

>> No.9109619

>>9109422
Please treat my wife's friend's wife's boyfriend kindly, Holofriends.

>> No.9109632

>>9109422
She's a honorary liver after all tho, unsurprising really

>> No.9109661

>>9109632
ID is ID no matter what company.
ID is also SEA basically

>> No.9109666

>>9109422
Oga don't look!

>> No.9109667

>>9109422
Yes you are snowflake

>> No.9109669

>>9109422
Be happy that Kuzuha, the KING himself, considered wasting his precious time to reply to your stinky treerrat, Holofag. She's probably furiously flicking her bean from happiness right now. As she should.

>> No.9109701

>>9109422
>Holo interacts with someone outside Hololive
>Holofags seethe, attacking the Holo as 'clout chasing' and 'leeching'
Geez is this why HoloEN are extremely autistic about collabs? Chill the fuck down

>> No.9109707
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9109707

>>9109601
Ollie loves everyone but if you look at Risu's replies she's pretty much just replying to Nijis rather than other holos

>> No.9109753

How mad will the schizo get when we'll have the first HoloEn/NijiEn collab?

>> No.9109780

>>9109669
The King of boring content that only gets any attention when he plays Apex. If Apex died tomorrow, he would be nothing.

>> No.9109808

>>9109422
>Am I the only one bothered by Risu getting too close to Nijis?
yes, fuck you. I'm a holofag and I don't care, baiter

>> No.9109810

I think it'd be cool if the others communicated more with Niji members and indies, it's a shame that they almost always ignore others, Cover probably imposes that idk.

>> No.9109812

>>9109780
>If Apex died tomorrow, he would be nothing.
newfagchama he got famous with PUBG clips...

>> No.9109872

>>9109701
Unironically, yes.
Especially the English only girls would have long ago wanted to collab with people outside of Hololive from the EN sphere, but the autists... especially from here.

>> No.9109881

>>9109422
No one cares about your tribalfagging, Niji is perfectly fine

>> No.9109915

>>9109707
Because Nijis are far more casual about their twitter use, interact with everyone over irrelevant shit, and pretty receptive to Risu's "le deez nuts" shitpost. Also Nijis feel more like the part of the greater vtuber community (as with HoloID members) than most Holos.

>> No.9109940

fucking newfags

>> No.9109975

>>9109872
t. VShojotard

>> No.9110445

>>9109707
Finana replies to Holo's and western indies more than Nijisanji, what is your point? They hate their companies?

>> No.9110503

nijireject.

>> No.9110540

I watch both holos and nijis. I prefer the nijis but they put out less videos so I often fall back on holos

>> No.9110620

Numberfags are a fucking plague. They have this " us vs them" mentality drilled into their brains.

>> No.9110673

>>9109780
>>9109812
if kuzuha channel didn't have apex, valorant, tarkov, pokemon unite, baseball, random fotm games + if you cut his arms off, took away his pc, evicted him from his appartment, and he got shot by an anonymous hitman in south america he would be a FLOP and get NO NUMBERS checkmate nijifags

>> No.9110705

>>9109422
>Congratulations!
>Thanks!

Yeah this is exchange is way too intimate, she's basically begging to get dicked.

>> No.9110737

>>9110705
kuzuha channel already has groomer hag wife and groomer older bestfriend she better get in line

>> No.9110743

>>9110445
We all know Finana is a Hololive reject but Risu wasn't like this

>> No.9110765

>>9109422
Don't give a shit, just wish she would at least stream ffs.

>> No.9110877

>>9110743
HoloID is always casual about interacting with outsiders and they mainly hung out with homos, SEA vtubers, and even some JP artists here and there. PekoMoona showed JP Holos that interacting with IDs can be profitable but before that it wasn't really the norm.
And considering this is Risu I wouldn't rule out one of the main reasons she's around Kuzuha's replies lately is because she's /here/

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9110909

Every holothot secretly simps for Nijichads, Risu just does it in the open. Ina's roomate was rooting for Kuzuha's team during Vsaikyou

>> No.9110978

>>9109422
Based unity squirrel doesn't give a fuck about tribalistic shit

>> No.9111159

>>9110909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNLijvU3ocM
I mean, you can't really blame them

>> No.9111202

>>9109422
Maybe she want more freedom like in Nijisanji...

>> No.9111234

>>9109422
Yeah, I think most people don't give a shit.

>> No.9111280

>>9110743
>We all know she just joined Nijisanji because it was the next best thing and Vshojo wasn't doing auditikns

>> No.9111309

>>9111159
Maimoto covering this and uma pyoi had me in stitches.

>> No.9111326

>>9109707
Well Risu's just kind of ignored by everyone in Hololive apart from ID1 and stars so it makes sense.

>> No.9111328

>>9110673
He would get numbers, I would attend his funeral.

>> No.9111336

>>9111159
I love that song lol, especially the background... I become gay for belmond

>> No.9111358

>>9111202
holoID already has freedom they dont care

>> No.9111360

>>9109471
A good king must personally indulge himself in the affairs of the commoners time to time

>> No.9111398

>>9111326
why do they ignore her :((

>> No.9111404

>>9111336
we know, toshiro gentsuki

>> No.9111432
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9111432

To answer OP's question: no, you're clearly not the only schizo who thinks Holos and Nijis are mortal enemies while ignoring the reality that they're all friends and collaborate with each other all the time.

>> No.9111434

>>9109616
Who doesn't?

>> No.9111474

>>9111398
Ironicly she supose to be koronexokayu child, and somehow Monaa become the one that lead holoID, i guess the meme die by month

>> No.9111523

>>9109422
Most Holos are close to some Nijis so I wouldn't care if I were you.

Some examples:
Haachama/Matsuri - Hoshikawa
Okayu - Shiina
Marine - Blue Oni
Subaru - Maimoto
Suisei - Toko
Towa - Bora

Tribalism is dead nowadays

>> No.9111578

>>9111474
Holy ESL

>> No.9111591

>>9111432
HoloEN is mortal enemy tho, they never collab with nijisanji which is retarded, this why i hate holoEN, only for that
In my delusion i always think they never collab with niji cuz they don't want to Interact with low number vtuber and oh want to collab with someone on same level as them,

I think i need my meds, brb

>> No.9111844

>>9111591
You do, considering that they've interacted on twitter before and Kiara and Pomu have talked about each other on stream

>> No.9111899

>>9110909
Bros...the witches are stealing our boys

>> No.9111959

>>9111202
HoloID is free, they collab with NijiID and are unityfriends.

>> No.9112032

>>9110705
Wait till you hear that he's replying to everyone personally instead of copypasting the same message, he's matching everyone's energy down to the amount of emojis used.

>> No.9112163

>>9109810
>Cover probably imposes that idk.
Of course, hence why HoloEN had to beg like crazy to get their collabs.

>> No.9112226

ID1 hates HoloEN and they are excited that their friend, Lyrica, is going to NijiEN Wave 3 and they will get to collab and promote the actually talented NijiEN.

>> No.9112250
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9112250

IDs will literally talk and collab with everyone, so who cares.
I'm more concerned with fucking Fauna talking to those Nijiniggers, Omega should do his fucking job and tell her to stop acknowledging them.
Blocking all collabs of any kind with those leeches.

>> No.9112361

>>9109810
Some of them do want to collab with indies and other agencies but management almost outright refuses most outside of them. The few outside they have done were a 1 time only(Milky Queen or the V shojo collab) or for a sponsorship streams.

>> No.9112366

>>9109810
When the term vtuber is synonymous with holo especially beyond JP you gotta strengthen them by going full blown inward, this is why EN and some JP to an extend does this, ID's different because there they want you to integrate with others so if you don't collab with others you'll be sus for ID bakas

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9112401

>>9112250
She WILL collab with Pomu and you WILL enjoy it. In fact everyone will collab with Pomu.

>> No.9112433

>>9109471
UnityChads win again

>> No.9112467

https://youtu.be/5x4BebIeeXE
Kuzuha is based

>> No.9112498

>>9109422
I never watched her she can collab with men all she wants don’t care. I only care for holos in gen3

>> No.9112517

>>9112366
>ID's different because there they want you to integrate with others so if you don't collab with others you'll be sus for ID bakas
Its more due to the fact that other agencies are still strong in ID, if by the time when ID3 comes along Hololive is bigger, you can bet your ass they will stop collabing with Nijis and other indis.
Its what happened with JP Gen 1, Gen 2 and Gamers of Hololive, they used to collab with Niji all the time, by the time Gen 3 came along they were popular enough they didn't need to do it anymore.
EN was so strong from the get go that they will never need to collab with NijiEN, they gain nothing by doing so.

>> No.9112578

>>9112250
meds now newfag

>> No.9112725

>>9112401
>My oshi collabing with that cancer
She won't, she won't even collab with JPs

>> No.9112757

I believe risu did these things on purpose.for notifications

>> No.9112887

>>9112517
>Its more due to the fact that other agencies are still strong in ID, if by the time when ID3 comes along Hololive is bigger, you can bet your ass they will stop collabing with Nijis and other indis.
That'll depend on how willing they'll localize to ID, bcuz rn they're losing out to those who can showcase their IDness, NijiID been busy hosting events are partnering with brands this year despite arguably the weakest in subs and views among ID big3, while MAHA5 beats holoID to get into World of Warships ads although their streams are also less viewed than holoID, it takes more to rule ID than being a numberfag mate

>> No.9112975

>>9112250
Omega will still be working on his chunni lore when Fauna collabs with NijiEn

>> No.9112984
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9112984

>>9112887
I hope they are just IDs in name only to be honest, pretty much like ID2.
Hell, rebrand the whole branch to something vague like "Hololive International".
Reine and Ollie don't deserve the ID debuff.

>> No.9113045

>>9112984
You want your oshis to get attacked for being "traitors"?

>> No.9113066

Risu is getting closer to Nijisanji so it isn't suspicious when EN debuts their new Filipino liver and Holo ID collabs with her right away.

>> No.9113128

>>9112984
You do know they were perfectly aware what branch they were applying for right? Popularity wise they're still wildly successful by EN vtuber standards let alone SEA/ID. Not everything is about maximizing NUMBERS NUMBERS

>> No.9113139

>>9113066
Does Niji even have a flip branch?

>> No.9113285

>>9113139
No, she's gonna be in EN

>> No.9113306

>>9113045
I mean indogs already aware and acknowledge that they're ID in name only, they won't be surprised really

>> No.9113340

>>9113285
She can barely speak English though and has an atrocious accent, hell, Moona sounds fluent by comparison.

>> No.9113387

>>9113306
This
Do this people forget that Ollie went into a rant shitting on Indogs?
Reine won't speak that language unless its an ID collab with Gen 1 and Anya is just Japanese at this point.

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9113448

>>9112887
>while MAHA5 beats holoID to get into World of Warships ads

>> No.9113511

>>9113340
>Canadian
>Flip
>Can barely speak English
Is she really that bad?

>> No.9113527

>HoloID will become Hololive Asia
>Koreans Holos soon will join

>> No.9113554

>>9113306
>>9113387
You can't be seriously thinking that the ESL indog who nod and laugh at ollie rant are the same with those who will make it an issue if they abandon they ID name right?

>> No.9113573

>>9113511
>"Canadian"
This is like saying Artia was American

>> No.9113622

>>9113387
"Rebranding" is just retarded because it won't do a thing to their numbers if that's what you cared about. People who don't know they speak English or don't like their content won't subscribe to them just because they're renamed to "Hololive International". They're already heavily buffed by Hololive brand which is why (1) they have extremely large number of subscribers and high live viewers not only by regional but also general EN vtuber standards and (2) they also "suffer" from the same dead subs "problem" as most Holos, i.e. relatively low viewers-to-subs ratio which means they're already known to Holo hako-oshis who sub to them loyally but don't really watch them much.

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9113894

>>9113448
I know, my point is that both get streams but why we don't see Moona on this ad? If numberfags are right she should be in the ad but nope.

>> No.9114020

>>9113285
She isn't and when Wave 3 debuts without her in it I am unleashing a grudgepost against all of you

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9114232

>>9113894
>9 months ago vs. 1 week ago.
Their contract is over.

>> No.9114353 [DELETED] 

>>9112250
You should be more worried about her 'collabing' with her boyfriend, cuck

>> No.9114429

>>9109422
Newfags.
Holos and Nijis have been friendly in the past, tribal EN tards are just too new and hate that idea. I want to see more collaboration with Niji, especially their ID and EN branchs

>> No.9114455

>>9109422
Yes you're the only one. I wish holos and Nijis were closer so holos would collab with Selen and Elira.

>> No.9114564

>>9111398
Low numbers.

>> No.9114672

>>9109422
>OP
faggot
>pretty much everyone else
very based

>> No.9115723

>>9111959
>Rarely collab with nijiid

>> No.9115976

Holofags in this board sound like people that would beat the shit out of their wives ass.

>> No.9116196

>>9112250
what i love Ceres now

>> No.9116293

>>9109422
you said the same thing about matsuri last time

>> No.9116333

>>9115976
>Hololive fans
>finding a woman who would look at them irl
LOL

>> No.9116384

>>9109422
It's fine, Risu needs all the help she can get. I'd honestly rather see her do some fun collabs with the Nijis ENs rather than trying to force Holo EN 2 to collab with her when they're probably not that interested.

>> No.9116555

>>9111523
>Subaru - Maimoto
That whore showed her true colors long ago anon, stop living in the past.

>> No.9116775

>>9116555
She saved his career and he's grateful for it, and unlike 2434 require gachis to stay a float

>> No.9117086

>>9109707
Based. She knows HoloEN are just shitty numberfags

>> No.9117101

>>9115723
https://youtu.be/JlWWo7-q0ps
>2 days ago
retard

>> No.9117514

>>9116555
Sorry anon but Maimoto is property of Hisupi and Mea he's not allowed to hang out with Subaru

>> No.9117570

>>9109422
No. The fake voice filters me. She can do what she wants.

>> No.9117828

>>9116555
>Subaru talks about his dad most of the time
My rrat is Maimoto is afraid of Subaru's dad so he's avoiding Subaru

>> No.9118746

>>9109471
Why wouldn’t he

>> No.9119233

>>9109471
he even relied to some smol indie with 5k subs, that's the difference between KING and holothots

>> No.9119433

>>9115976
>holobronies
>have wife
lol, most of thme haven't been talking to woman for years, otherwise they will not watch hololive e-whores kek

>> No.9119446

>>9112250
Holy based, my favorite HoloCouncil member wants to collab with Nijis

>> No.9121324

>>9119446
Always felt that council are more open than myth for some reasons, especially in regards to holostars and non-holos

>> No.9121587

Anon probably doesn't even watch her. But oh no she's interacting with Nijis! panick!

>> No.9121916

>>9112226
Actual a good rrat. Believable considering how HoloEN treats them.

>> No.9121990

>>9113340
Have you actually watched a Lyrica stream? She speaks english better than some EOPs.

>> No.9122035

>>9113511
No, watch her streams and you will see she is good.

>> No.9122557

>>9110765
She doesn’t have time, please understand

>> No.9122841

Unity is my fetish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtIa3izeimU

>> No.9123726

>>9121916
Whats the rrat with ID1 and EN1? I thought EN and ID2 were pretty close.

>> No.9124293

>>9123726
I only say that because amogus collab. Risu and Iofi have rarely collabed with EN since then. The rrat i guess is Gura should have reprimanded her fans for being toxic and apologized. (moona hasnt collabed with them much either.)

>> No.9124458

>>9124293
I actually didnt understand why Gura wouldnt reprimand her fans back then or for the same reason when they went to FBK or even now with the stupid guras streaming comments. Is it that hard to tard wrangle ENs?

>> No.9124508

Moona just replied to Pomu's tweet lol. Keep being mad. Holo ID/Niji EN collab almost certain to happen.

>> No.9124592

>>9124458
No, she just doesn't give a fuck. "Boo hoo I'm an imposter" so she pretends she has 1k watchers

>> No.9124643

>>9122841
Towa is alright.

>> No.9124662

Is this the Holosanji thread?
https://twitter.com/moonahoshinova/status/1433521343882924032
https://twitter.com/moonahoshinova/status/1433536589766926345

>> No.9124863

Indo vtubers are the definition of unity, they push anyone, whether you're a 2 view, a png tuber or part of a big corp, they wanna talk to you and try to help you.

>> No.9125157

>>9109422
Please andarstand a close friend of hers will be in NijiEN so she has to get closer to Nijis so it doesn't look suspicious when she and the other HoloIDs start collabing constantly with said friend.
In all seriousness, this is just normal for ID in general, they are a close and friendly bunch, that's just how it is, nothing too weird about shit like this.

>> No.9125558

>>9109422
It bothers me greatly. I am going to cancel my Risu membership over this. A real shame since I really enjoyed her Prisuners night but this is a double crime. Not only a male, but a Niji? Unacceptable and Hololive fans should not be ok with this.

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>>9111523
Thank god my oshi is Miko. Won't be seeing any dirty Nijis on her streams. Nijishitty is a non-starter for me. Once it gets involved, INSTANT DROP.

>> No.9126951

Risu is cute and her accent is sex

>> No.9127136

>>9125988
Cant wait for that to happen. Because we all know she will.

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9127142

>>9125988
You were saying?

>> No.9127266

>>9125157
Is it the Filipino

>> No.9127777

>>9127266
If the speculations are true, and they seem like they are (not like the ones involved are being that discreet), then yes.

>> No.9127830

>>9127142
kek

>> No.9127917

>>9127142
Nice try faggot but that is old as fuck and company mandated when Hololive was a lot smaller.

>> No.9127945

>>9127917
Cope.

>> No.9127957

>>9127917
>She never collabed with males
>but she did
>Umm but she didn't because of my specifications based on my delusion

>> No.9128224

>>9109915
This. I belive in niji girls to have the same decency or at least awareness as a fellow japan rooted group, hence both are safe. I dont agree with other EN chuubas tho. You never know what kind of fanbase they got and drama they bring. Just look at Vshoujo rn. Imagine if the EN girls interact a lot more with them in the past, people will pressured them into their shitty ass drama and would condemn them if they say nothing.

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>>9125988
Miko used to love to leech from nijis when she was a 100 views vtuber.

>> No.9128347

>>9128251
I can never forgive her for abandoning Niji doggo! Also, I didn't know Seto and Haruka were around back then too...

>> No.9128438

>>9113066
Nah.. lyrica said she wants to be a clipfags

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>>9125988
Jokes asides Miko used to be pretty close to nijisanji at that time, I remember that there was that eroge talk collab with Maimoto and Kosaka.

>> No.9128610

>>9128251
>>9128511
Nice photoshops

>> No.9128657

>>9128438
For NijiEN. As if that isnt more obvious you autist.

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>>9125988
>>9127957
Not only did this hypocrite leeching whore collab with males before but she also flirted with them. Stay cucked, 35seaniggers.

>> No.9128779

>>9109422
risu is just based all around

>> No.9128842

>>9111202
Risu already has the freedom to be lazy, not do karaoke and not stream, Tree Rat what more do you want?

>> No.9128856

>>9128779
I mean, she is /ourgirl/

>> No.9128877

>>9128610
https://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1118755158404370432
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNb79BqnZC0
https://twitter.com/tammy_now/status/1188104214926393344

>> No.9128893

>>9127142
miko is based though

>> No.9128899

>>9124458
She is a cowards and really paranoid with her career. It's better to not say anything then to accidently say stupid shit that can be used againts her. Understandable really, but still cowardly.

>> No.9128962

>>9128770
you're just mad miko put in the work to make hololive what it is today, you'll never be able to unblack your dad

>> No.9128989

>>9116555
Fucking UI just had to insert herself inbetween and turned a wholesome friendly banter into a fucking horny shit

>> No.9129007

>>9128899
The problem is that this makes her look worse than it would have if she just said anything. Not that it matters anymore.

>> No.9129067

>>9128770
She did kosaka dirty.. heck she left all her chuuba friends since her incline

>> No.9129125

>>9129067
Yeah and now she is a lesbian so 35p dont think she is fucking dudes.

>> No.9129124

>>9128989
But Maimai still collabs with Ui and plays along with her jokes. There is just literally no mention of Subaru ever existing. On the other side, on Subaru's "ask me anything" stream, Maimoto was never mentioned (but whether this is due to her fans being newfags or mane-chan filtering messages, we'll never know)
I personally feel like they privately agreed to not talk publically after Subaru decided she wants gachis. That's MY rrat, and no I will not take meds.

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9129139

risu wants to move to nijisanji

>> No.9129334

>>9129124
>But Maimai still collabs with Ui and plays along with her jokes
And that's excatly the problem. Subaru want non of those kinda jokes with male around. But they could also talk bts about it and they could also just bussy with their own thing since they've been inclining hard since then.

>> No.9129494

>>9129334
Yes, they both are busy. But everyone keeps saying that Subaru abandoned him when they're both adults and most likely talked about it. I don't know why anons expect them to act like grade school kids pouting after the other goes off to play with a different friend group. Feels like they watched the clips of his younger life and decided he's still traumatized or whatever, when he's fine and feeling confident.

>> No.9131064

>>9128962
cope

>> No.9131453

I forgot risu browses /vt/
now she will double down on this just for lulz

>> No.9131514

>>9109422
You are talking about the girl who introduced herself as being part of nijisanji...your treerrat reps anon, geez...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u7o5NMzBS0

>> No.9131836

>>9128251
Seeing Hololive chubas attempt to leech of Nijisanji is bizarre to me. It's like looking at an alternative universe.

>> No.9131846

>>9131514
God, I love this smol brain squrl

>> No.9132028

>>9128347
shiba is happier playing with chima

>> No.9132695

>>9131836
>It's like looking at an alternative universe.
That was just 2 years ago.

>> No.9132763

>>9109422
Elaborate, fag

>> No.9132938

>>9129139
Based tupai

>> No.9134612

>>9109422
fuck off, tribalfag.

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