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Why does she want e-celebs to take over Hololive so badly?

>> No.9081960

>>9081883
She's just young and horny.

>> No.9082192

She is young and naive, just let her...

>> No.9082213

>>9081883
she's cute

>> No.9082340
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9082340

Star struck zoomer that doesn't understand just how scummy most of these internet nobodies really are. I'll bet recent drama is just the tip of the iceberg on that front.

>> No.9082573
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what will happen when ollie grows up and realizes e-celebs are retarded? will she graduate?

>> No.9082666

>>9082340
Management thinks it is fine. They could leash her at any moment but don't. Management wants this.

>> No.9082707

>>9081883
Vtubers are e-celebs too

>> No.9083097

>>9081883
>>9081960
HOLOLIVE IS A HAREM ANIME AND OLLIE IS THE PROTAGONIST

>> No.9083168

>>9081883
Ironically enough, gura was a pseudo eceleb before joining hololive. The same could be said for mori but im not sure

>> No.9083276

>>9082573
She'll settle down once I put a baby in her, just wait a little bit.

>> No.9083442

>>9083097
Hololive feels like the Warring states of Harem anime.

>Migo wants all the blondes
>Octopus destination gets buddy budyy with everyone and then wonders why everyone (notably Lamy in recent months) gushes about her
>Ollie getting marriage proposals out of senpais

I know full I didn't even list all of them.

>> No.9083457

>>9083168
Mori was no way an e-celeb back then. I think she had like 20k subs before joining hololive, and it's obviously music subs.

>> No.9083692

>>9083168
>The only one with experience being an e-celeb is the one who avoids them like the plague.

>> No.9084157

>>9083692
There are more e-celebs among EN though.

>> No.9085184

>>9081883
What did she do this time?

>> No.9085302

>>9085184
Organized a collab alongside Mori with Connor and his groomer pals.

>> No.9085407

>>9081883
They don't know about Nijisanji, however, that will change after Wave4

>> No.9085420

>>9081883
But Hololive is all e-celebs

>> No.9085543
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Because she is too impulsive/adhd to think of the long term consequences of her actions.

>> No.9085617

legit zoomer given a position where she can actually interact with her idols, it's the reason why Cover shouldn't hire young girls (look at shion and haachama being huge menheras)

>> No.9085638

>>9083692
I think that has more to do with her protecting her image than her willingness. Don’t forget:
Belle Delphine is worse than any eceleb Ollie has ever collabed with

>> No.9085940

>>9081883
She doesn't, she's just smart enough to know that she's not getting any more growth from us chuds and the already existing holofanbase, and that the anituber audience might be an easy bet.

>> No.9085999

>>9082666
ID management is nonexistent

>> No.9086006

>>9083692
Gura is just self aware enough to know the schizo breakdown you’d have on here if she talked to e-celebs/males

>> No.9086014

>>9082707
>>9084157
>>9085420
t. deadbeat
>>9081883
I assume she wants to use her position to reach people she likes and doesn’t think of possible consequences for her position. Now, if you ask me, Hololive doesn’t mix well with e-celebs
I like(d) Ollie, but that and her frequent yabs put me off, it’s like she wanted to be in a position more like VShojo where those ideas aren’t that crazy. I hope she learned something from Soda Funk and outside of Hololive what happened to Arcadum
Quickly thinking, I wouldn’t mind MUCH if she tried to interact with e-celebs herself, but we already had the Connor arc and now she’s trying to shoehorn Mori to collab with Connor

>> No.9086091

>>9086014 (me)
I forgot to consider, Ollie does lots of networking and doesn’t settle for the typical Holo fanbase, so >>9085940 has a point

>> No.9086129

>>9086014
>I hope she learned something from Soda Funk
Nope, she still follows him
> what happened to Arcadum
How long until Ollie herself gets groomed I wonder....

>> No.9086133

>>9085302
What!? When did this happen? Source?

>> No.9086147

>>9081883
Because she's too autistic to make friends with people from inside hololive, e-celebs are easy since they all want a piece of the hololive cake even if they shit talk it all the time

>> No.9086260
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>>9086133
Hook, line, and sinker...

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>>9082192
She keeps doing fuck ups after fuck ups. She outright accidentally showed Reine dox onstream during the ID gartic phone collab.
Nobody is reprimanding her for her utterly reckless behavior. There will come a day where she fucks up so hard that it will affect her mental health because her coworkers will start hating her. Mark my words.

>> No.9086289

>>9086133
Membership

>> No.9086336

>>9086284
>Reine dox during the gartic phone collab
What?

>> No.9086377

>>9086133
Confirmed in an Ollie membership stream, also strongly implied in a Calli chatting stream ("a special collab")

>> No.9086381

>>9086284
Or at least until their lenient manager gets fired for not leashing their talents.
>>9086336
She accidentally showed her Pictures folder and it had a Reine doxx from one of the doxxcords.

>> No.9086437

>>9081883
So if the same thing that happened with the Arcadium guy happens with connor we can expect

>Mori getting over it pretty fast since she's used to shit friendship choices
>Ollie will go into depression mode and start a hiatus
>IronMouse suicide

>> No.9086459

>>9086336
You ain't really been around a lot lately, have you? Fair enough really, but screens were posted in /global/ when it happened, as well as a streamable of the clip from >>9085302. I didn't save any of this, you might just have to some archive digging to find it all.

>> No.9086569

>>9086437
>Ame has a face like :/ for an entire month
>Kson has already forgotten who the fuck trash talk are

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>>9086284
>>9086381
Is no one gonna question why she had a doxx photo of her friend? This isnt just any doxx photo, this is the type of shit you see on doxcords, /qa/, and anti threads. Sure, I could understand that she has reine's pictures irl, but something about that pic tells me that theres something wrong about their relationship...

>> No.9086612

>>9086336
>>9086381
If only it was that bad. It was way worse! She literally had a folder titled with Reine's roommate name, and from her perspective, Reine's discord icon was right next to it.

>> No.9086634

>>9083276
Thank you, Connor.

>> No.9086669

>>9086381
>>9086459
>>9086612
Holy shit I feel bad for Reine and the drugged up corpse they call a manager

>>9086459
Yeah I've been coming here a lot less

>> No.9086700

>>9086289
>>9086377
I thought Conner was essentially blacklisted after he shat all over Hololive fans.

>> No.9086709

>>9086609
Ollie is unironically a SEA schizo that visited these threads and she uses a secret discord alt account to roam fan discords, I wouldn't be surprised if she hung out in doxcords with it and grabbed that picture or Reine

>> No.9086733

>>9086381
>>9086609
Honestly we don’t really have confirmation if the dox is real or not, like some anons, we can assume that she had the doxxcord photo to report it to higher ups as well as the screenshot of someone possible sending the photo in his doxxcord

>> No.9086782

>>9086700
>I thought Conner was essentially blacklisted after he shat all over Hololive fans.
https://youtu.be/IiWHgTkE6m0

>> No.9086821

>>9086700
It’s Ollie, do you really think she cares?

>> No.9086827

>>9086700
>>9086782
ID management basically lets their talents run unchecked.
Mori's manager greenlit a Charlie collab but was stopped by upper management.
The talents have said before that the 3 branches are all run differently.

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>>9086709
>hung out in doxcords with it and grabbed that picture or Reine
FOR WHAT PURPOSE!?

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>>9086669
>Yeah I've been coming here a lot less
Sounds healthy.

>> No.9086861

>>9086609
Alright, there could be two reasons for this. First, the normal one is that she lurks in those places, saves the images and screenshots for management. Second, we can go full schizo with what this anon said >>9086612
and believe that she's the one spreading that shit, since there shouldn't be a reason for her putting that name on the folder.

>> No.9086863

>>9086700
it's literally okay when connor does it because people always use the excuse ''He just doesn't know how to express himself guys'', it's fucking obvious how much shade he throws at hololive

>> No.9086869

>>9081883
If Ollie suddenly up and graduates out of no where, due to sudden personal circumstances then we know why: Reine had her removed.

>> No.9086875

By the way, does Mori still want to collab with Charlie?
Also, if the Connor collab is actually a thing going to happen, do you bet those who get mad at interaction with e-celebs will get lumped with the purityfags and unicorns?

>> No.9086887

>>9086014
>>9086129
Sorry I've been way out of the loop. Is Soda not kosher anymore? Soda's actually a dude?

>> No.9086892

>>9086847
It's not. I just replaced browsing /vt/ with being a shitty 2view spending hours for nothing

>> No.9086894

>>9086782
How many chubas will this brit fuck before he's satisfied

>> No.9086908

>>9086700
It turns out you have to shit on the company itself like Veibei to get blacklisted. Holomanagement don't give a shit about the fans, they hate us too.

>> No.9086919

>>9086609
It's Ollie, whatever it was you can be certain she put 0 thought into it and didn't consider the possible consequences of her actions. Not only for her but for her managers and coworkers.
I'm willing to put down hard cash that she hangs out with certain e-celebs that will end up getting me-too'd someday causing a PR disaster for cover. Those fucks all give off groomer vibes.

>> No.9086979

So you guys realize what it means when a holo collabs with males all the time, right? Look at what happened to Matsuri and Towa, the only other ones that routinely collab with males besides Ollie.

>> No.9087018

>>9086863
The sad thing is, he would never give Ollie the time of day if EN actually interacted with him. He tried to get on their good side after the TT podcast and they all ignored him.

>> No.9087133

>>9086887
Soda is 100% a dude who has hired a voice actress, and also a grifter extrordinaire - from putting his occasional stream VODs behind a membership paywall to allegedly clipping 2views for pay and then deleting the clips after trying and failing to screw more money out of them.

>> No.9087134

>>9081883
That's normal woman behaviour

>> No.9087168

>>9086979
Iofi...
Fubuki...
Risu...

>> No.9087234

>>9086887
Soda is actually a girl hired by the dude running the channel. His friend circle clippers outed him and the artist declared there was a copyright issue with the fanart avatar Soda was using and monetizing
Since then, Soda has a new legal avatar and almost no one cares for the people behind the channel even if it was almost catfishing
I think he lost relevancy tho

>> No.9087246

>>9087133
He also hired a va that sounds like gura. Really makes you think huh?

>> No.9087285

>>9087168
I forgot to add Mori

>> No.9087287

>>9086979
>the only other ones
new

>> No.9087326

>>9087018
100% this, he’s just a fucking leech manipulating a naive girl, doesn’t help that Ollie doesn’t have competent managers either

>> No.9087381

>>9087246
>sounds like gura.
?????????????????????????

>> No.9087451

haven't know anything since the doxx yab
what has she been up to nowadays to make you all rile up yet again?

>> No.9087455

>>9087234
>>9087133
I guess that explains the sudden and non-explained shift in design. But you're right, with all these clippers now up and running Soda is kinda out dated.

>> No.9087458

>>9086894
mainly Ollie(whore) and IronMouse (AIDS whore)

>> No.9087498

>>9087451
sucking e-celeb(real) dick

>> No.9087500

>>9081883
this thread reminds me of this clip
https://youtu.be/_DDEkjbNXEg

>> No.9087512

It didn't help that her fans who are supportive of her every action were more vocal, while those who are skeptical/worried were pretty much silent. It gives the illusion that there is nothing wrong with it. Furthermore, it might also be possible that she communicate with e-celeb privately and is thus influenced by them.

>> No.9087521

>>9087381
>childlike
>soft spoken
>speech mannerisms similar to gura

>> No.9087556

>>9086829
she believes in ghosts and is unironically mentally ill, bipolar depression that she takes meds for. You ever ask other SEA doxxers why they collect doxx pictures? They just do it

>> No.9087557

>>9087326
In before dickriders reply that he's not leeching from holos because he has more subscribers.
It doesn't matter. he milked jojo for as long as he could. The guy doesn't even really like anime. He's a grifter. He saw the next bandwagon and immediately jumped on it to grow his income.
When he first heard about vtubers he did nothing but shit on them and their viewers. The videos are still fucking there.

>> No.9087638

>>9086700
not really, even if you were to upload him shitting on Hololive on the reddit everyone would just call you an incel when you're just trying to explain the guy shouldn't collab with Hololive cause he's a snake behind the scenes. Ironmouse told him to shut up and change the subject when he was ranting one time, he's a huge retard that's just riding on current trends

>> No.9087725

>>9087168
>>9087285
None of those compare in frequency with Matsuri, Towa, or Ollie, which is practically every day. Also, I don't watch much Risu or Iofi but aren't their male collabs almost entirely with Holostars? It's not much better, but you can at least be reassured there would be consequences if anything happened. You can't say the same for outsiders.

>> No.9087732

>>9086875
Why wouldn't she? She fucking loves him and has been watching him for a decade.
I think Connor, like Veibae, is a special case since they have shat on Hololive publicly before. EN fans don't really give that much of a shit about what ID does but spotlights are put on EN members. People gave Mori shit about Gigguk because she was way more excited to collab with him than any Holo.

>> No.9087811

>>9087557
theres so many grifters on the webs that people think this shit is normal

>> No.9087837

>>9086979
I actually don’t care she collabs with males and Ollie isn’t the kind of girl unicorns latch to, I just don’t want to see e-celebs
I would be watching youtubers or VShojo if I wanted to see this kind of interactions

>> No.9087848

Holostar collabs are fine cause the guys understand their place and if they fuck up Shinove macho man would kill them, but these e-celeb grifters are bad news especially if they're western. They're one step away from being involved in pedo drama or being me too'd

>> No.9087859

>>9086381
Lmao didn't even know this was a thing, the list of yabs just keeps growing

>> No.9087979

>>9087732
only teenagers "love" youtubers and watch them for that long, she probably laughed at some of his videos

>> No.9088050

>>9085617
>calling Haachama a dumb zoomer
Electiontouristchama....

>> No.9088094

>>9081883
Will EN2 be eceleb chasers too?

>> No.9088139

>>9086979
Connor is a grifting slimeball who shits on vtubers and vtubing fans. He's a sleazebag who has no place being anywhere near Hololive talents and that has nothing to do with him having a penis. The fact that Zoombie still interacts with him shows just how poor judgement she actually has.

>> No.9088163

>>9088094
probably, EN in general doesn't want to understand idol stuff

>> No.9088200

>>9088094
I only see Bae being involved with that, otherwise EN2 is safe

>> No.9088201

>>9086875
>By the way, does Mori still want to collab with Charlie?
100%, although she doesn't talk about it I know she's doing this as a stepping stone to get to that. I honestly don't think Charlie's that interested though - in a stream he said he knows Cover is very strict about collabs and that he's aware of who Mori is, but I honestly think it was just to get collab beggers to shut up. In any case, unlike Connor, he was very careful about how he worded his statement and didn't come across as an arrogant, obnoxious dick, so I'd honestly be fine with a Charlie collab compared to another Connor one.

>do you bet those who get mad at interaction with e-celebs will get lumped with the purityfags and unicorns?
By reddit and twitter? Most likely, though it's a bit different this time since it's now common knowledge Connor has shat on Hololive fans in his streams before.

>> No.9088255

>>9087732
>Why wouldn't she? She fucking loves him and has been watching him for a decade.
I haven’t heard about it anymore, and she was autistic about it the first months
>I think Connor, like Veibae, is a special case since they have shat on Hololive publicly before
I think nobody cares about Connor, and I think a cockblocking move could backfire this time, I just have that feeling
>EN fans don't really give that much of a shit about what ID does but spotlights are put on EN members. People gave Mori shit about Gigguk because she was way more excited to collab with him than any Holo.
Well, we just have to wait and see how will this unfold

>> No.9088284

>>9086609
>Ollie secretly spreading Reine doxx because Reine chewed her out over her dumb zoomer mistakes
I like this one, it's juicy. Ollie is going to implode, mark my words.

>> No.9088329

>>9085617
>haachama being huge menheras
Haachama is a lot of things, but she's not a menhera. You're thinking of Matsuri.

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>>9088284

>> No.9088477

>>9088200
Nah, Bae has her sights set on the holostars with precise lazer-vision.

>> No.9088504

>>9088255
Really depends, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a campaign to spread around clips of Connor shit talking Hololive like there was when Veibae did it.
Even now the subreddit does not like Veibae after that.

>> No.9088546

I have a feeling that rrat bitch is the same way

>> No.9088587

>>9086437
>The first vshojo suicide is the mouse instead of the dragon tranny
Pain-peko.

>> No.9088608

>>9086829
it was her who leaked it to the doxfags in the first place to have some petty revenge over some minor slight most likely, wouldn't be the first time in the chuuba world and it's not secret ID gen 2 aint super close...

>> No.9088662

>>9086437
This sounds like the best timeline.

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>>9088284
>>9088416
>>9088608
Is it weird that I unironically believe this?

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>>9088284
>>9088608
Not a big Ollie fan, but I'm a little worried for her. If this keeps up Reine's security force will swoop in so quickly it'll make the FBI look like children on the playground.

>> No.9088748

>>9088670
I also believe it but I'm a lunatic schizo.

>> No.9088762

>>9083692
>literally wrote and performed a song with belle delphine
delusional lmao

>> No.9088771

>>9088201
I actually respect Charlie, although I don’t like the idea of collabs with e-celebs (including him), I wouldn’t exactly be mad about him being the collab partner

There’s always a minority complaining in Twitter, but I’m sure Reddit would not question any of it and just swallow Connor’s welsh cock
>>9088504
If there isn’t any rep drawback, I can see that. It also depends if Connor would double down on his statements

>> No.9088773

>>9088670
Not weird, but definitely schizo. I was joking around with the Reine tweet. Please take your meds.

>>9088608
ID2 are far closer than Myth were for the first fucking 10 months.

>> No.9088786

>>9088608
That dox in particular caused a lot of them to pack up their bags citing harassment from serious entities outside hololive though. If she did that she deliberately fucked a lot of doxxfags over, and that's based

>> No.9088788

>>9088477
Who? The winning one?

>> No.9088807

>>9087512
This is basically all of the hololive fanbase, it took Veibae for schizios to shake things up a bit anr that knight guy for Moona yo stop playing with the Brit guy

>> No.9088875

>>9088786
kek still so hilarious that Reine scared off doxxfags

>> No.9088915

>>9088788
That one in particular, but she's a fan in general.

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>>9088255
>I haven’t heard about it anymore, and she was autistic about it the first months

>> No.9089074

>>9088807
Moona apologized in a members only stream if I recall.

>> No.9089109

>>9088875
You'd be scared too if you realized you're messing with a woman that could unperson you with a snap of her fingers

>> No.9089108

>>9088700
Kek, I wish shit like this were real. Would make reality more hilarious.

>> No.9089128

>>9088875
Reine is super easy to dox, she's one of the few Holos that doesn't bother to even pitch shift their streamer voice. Not sure why such a mystique grew up around her other than just being rich.

>> No.9089210

>>9088807
>knight guy
Spoonfeed...onegai...at least tell me what words to search for in the archives...

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>>9088968
>some hot blonde big boobed wigger bimbo is lusting over him in nipland
>the only girl this manlet can score is some jewess looking becky with a man face
Its not fair bros...

>> No.9089274

>>9089128
>Not sure why such a mystique grew up around her
I think it was because her family was closely linked to people politically which scared some people off

>> No.9089284

>>9085940
well to be fair she was always hyper-active and open to everyone, weird as it might be for us here on 4chan she's probably a fan of at least some of those cringy e-celebs like connur and probably was one before discovering hololive similar to Mori (although this indie rapper simping over people like Garnt is more weird desu) it doesn't have to be calculated and she's already among the biggest ID chuubas ever so not exactly desperate for audience.

>> No.9089315

>>9088875
She's rich and her family is politically connected. You'd be scared too if messing with a vtuber could actually fuck you over for life.

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>>9088968
How old is this screenshot?, and it doesn’t mean Mori is pushing for a collab with him unless you believe that was the entire point of collabing with VShojo as some autists said few months ago
>>9088807
Even Reddit doesn’t like Veibae because of her spouting rrats and doubling down
As for Moona, she cares about her gachikois and they were mad
>>9089210
Pic related

>> No.9089344

>>9089221
just shows that the wigger is a massive loser irl

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you niggers really need to take your meds holy shit

>> No.9089420

>>9089350
Well Mr. Zomcuck, why do you want collabs with e-celebs?

>> No.9089577

>>9081883
Despite not being western, she feels the most western streamer-like.
>>9089420
Not the anon you're replying to but I don't mind some e-celebs. Anitubers are shit and should not be interacted with tho.

>> No.9089595

>>9089350
Anya, you shouldn't be saying the N word like that.

>> No.9089625

>>9088786
>>9089109
>>9089274
>>9089315
>>A politician/rich person's daughter can make them "disappear" if she gets angry online.
Either you live in a shit hole country or you are literally children. Or both.

>> No.9089635

>>9089350
Ollie will probably keep causing problems for the other hololive girls, faggot

>> No.9089672

>>9089625
It's Indonesia so......

>> No.9089709

>>9089625
>Indonesia
anon...

>> No.9089734

>>9089625
We didn’t say she’d do it, just that the doxxfags were scared of it happening to them if they digged further

>> No.9089760

>>9089625
This also happens in first-world countries you naive retard, those people also fuck children daily and everybody pretends its not happening

>> No.9089815

>>9088762
>reading comprehension
we're talking about the gura persona

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>>9081883
I dropped her long time ago, she can do whatever she wants, just don't drag other members into your shenanigans.

>> No.9089862

>>9089832
Pretty much this

>> No.9089870

>>9089625
Indonesia. Hololive Indonesia.

>> No.9089883

>>9086129
Connor is already currently grooming her. We at least until he gets bored and finds another easy and vulnerable chubba he wants

>> No.9089925

>>9081883
She's a retard

>> No.9089993

>>9089109
I am a druglord, don't care

>> No.9090142

>>9089341
>Little did he know that Moona's biggest gachikoi, Sir Alfred Ridder the brave, would come to save his oshii from the grabby hands of trash connor. Sir Alfred Ridder's courageous leap into battle blunted connor's advance and turned him back. He's limited to basically Ollie now, and because of that he's lost interest, which Ollie cannot deal with. If only there were some gachikoi to saver her before she'd reached this point. I fear she's lost. She has no intention of reorienting herself, but won't look at the example of other 'rule breakers' to guide her moves.
Holy kek, I'm having such a good time with the archives.

>> No.9090147

>>9089832
Still cracks me up when Kiara sounded absolutely disgusted when chat guessed Connor as her mystery collab.

>> No.9090150

why haven't you guys told Ollie to not involve other Hololive members with her e-celeb dick chasing? It's valid criticism that other fanbases wouldn't like it and deadbeats that are higher than t1 hate Connor and TT

>> No.9090160
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>>9081883
And then when it's time for the groomer to reap the fruits of his labor, suddenly it's society's fault, when society kept telling the zoomtard not to do it.

>> No.9090224

>>9090142
man you missed out a lot on the Sir Alfred Ridder crusade arc. he even got his own general for a couple of days. it was fun.

>> No.9090234

>>9090150
Mori has been talking a lot more recently about helping her kouhais. This probably has to do with why she's involved, she's gonna take the heat off Ollie.

>> No.9090247

>>9090150
You do know that we are the minority here right?

>> No.9090280 [DELETED] 

>>9089625
I know Reina doesn't look like, but she's from HoloID anon.

>> No.9090302

>>9090150
Why don't you try that? And risk getting attacked by her blind followers

>> No.9090306

>>9090150
moonafags did, they sent some to holoID twitter and Cover

>> No.9090372

>>9089993
Anon, you need to be at least 18 to post on 4chan.

>> No.9090410

>>9086733
wait why would she copy the picture rather than like take the screenshot from the discord where it was posted, one is a proof and the other is just her genmate picture it doesn't make much sense to put those in folder named "Reine's roommate" rather than something like "reports".
The only "innocent" reasons she might do it I can see is spreading the rrat about Reine being super connected and scaring the doxfags because apparently that was the result.

>> No.9090415

>>9090150
Because only people itb care about this shit

>> No.9090461

>>9090306
didn't expect moonafags can be this based wtf. did it work tho?

>> No.9090478

>>9090150
Ollie's fanbase are actually eceleb fans, sadly.

>> No.9090492

>>9090415
then explain the T2 deadbeat incident when Mori didn't shut up about Charlie, also let me mind you that people who were calling out Mori for the Gigguk collab were pink skulls

>> No.9090564

>>9090461
for now yes

>> No.9090631

>>9090410
the folder part is false

>> No.9090748

>>9090410
You fell for the rrat.

>> No.9090771

>>9090631
You're a fucking liar. Or you don't know the name.

>> No.9090791
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https://twitter.com/airaniiofifteen/status/1383755698379497473
Remember this? These tweets come from Connor arc.

>> No.9090875

>>9090492
Anon...Even T3 deadbeats exist here...

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>Bogdanoff, she is getting on track
>Doomp eet

>> No.9090897

>>9088163
Good, the idol stuff is retarded and needs to die

>> No.9090928

>>9090897
you have to go back

>> No.9090959

>>9090147
Kiara is an idolfag, she’s not interested in e-celebs, she wants to open more to other popular vtubers and openly criticizes management
Some people take issue with this but in my book she’s leagues far better than Ollie
>>9090150
I don’t bother anymore watching Ollie and I’m a greynigger. Also, zomcucks have overlap with TTfags
>>9090415
Cope
>>9090791
Iofi also jumped ship but did it silently

>> No.9091005

>>9090897
eat shit faggot.

>> No.9091020

>>9090897
Americans are the great Satan, the wounded snake.

>> No.9091037

>>9090959
zomrades have overlap with basically every western twitch vchuuba eceleb fans, it's unironically why she has the biggest buff in ID compared to Moona who does her connects with indies and JP Holos.

>> No.9091083

>>9090147
Kek what stream? Timestamp?

>> No.9091148

>>9082666
We probably don't even know half of the things that they turned down for a good reason... But let's be honest Ollie didn't do anything more than niji EN, they also colab with twitchfaggots, Vshojos etc. all the time to build audience.

>> No.9091270

>>9091148
holy shit that fucking collab nijiEN did lmao poor Pomu

>> No.9091350

>>9091037
not saying you're wrong, but ollie already has a decent fanbase way before shes interacting with eceleb

>> No.9091500

>>9090897
vshojo is two blcoks down, anon.

>> No.9091691

>>9087638
ranting about the hololive? I only remember him shitting on r/hololive being idol fans which is amusing considering how normie-tier and inoffensive this sub is for the most part, but apparently some people didn't like his anituber clique must be because of their gender.

>> No.9091765

>>9091691
you are a faggot connor

>> No.9092074

>>9090147
Lol what stream?

>> No.9092092

>>9090150
It already happened in the Moona,Iofi and Ollie arc, Moona and Iofi stopped it Ollie just waited for a new opening

>> No.9092168

>>9087018
Well I'm pretty sure Mori would be up for it, she still hangs around the TT people apparently she's friends with sydsnap so probably also interacts with conur from time to time. Also Garnt was ranting about Vtubers not interacting with real people, both him and anime man seem to move to the niji camp btw seem like Cover was giving them the cold shoulder for a while, just wait till niji EN gets bigger than it is atm leech squad is already all over them.

>> No.9092182

>>9089625
its indonesia, hate speech law exist. if a random elites decided that your 3 likes fb post making them assmad butthurt, they can just send a small police force to pick you up to your new home(its already happen, btw).

>> No.9092283

>>9092168
They’re upset that their e-celeb status doesn’t mean they can freely collab with Hololivers kek

>> No.9092403

>>9092092
>Iofi stopped
Still at it, but more subtle about it.

>> No.9092423

>>9081883
I'm all for male collabs, they can collab with apex pros too, idc. But I draw the line with these e-celebs and anitubers. These niggers can fuck off and leave the vtubing scene alone.

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>>9092092
>Iofi stopped

>> No.9092454

>>9092168
>Also Garnt was ranting about Vtubers not interacting with real people, both him and anime man seem to move to the niji camp btw seem like Cover was giving them the cold shoulder for a while
Garnt/TT can fuck off, Hololive has been doing well not collabing with e-celebs and I dare to say many find that appealing, if they can’t understand that then they’re a problem and will not be missed

>> No.9092479

>>9089625
It's Indonesia, but the same thing would probably happen to people in first world countries if, say, Ghislaine Maxwell became a vtuber and people tried to post her doxx.

>> No.9092492

>>9090928
>>9091005
>>9091020
>>9091500
Frankly YOU are mostly alone in this thought
Unilaterally the WILL unicorns is weak
Cover NEVER listens to your complaints
Killing yourself is the only way to BE happy
Unicornically the JAPANESE love Ollie

>> No.9092499

>>9092424
kek

>> No.9092585
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>>9092492
Stupid ESL monkey.

>> No.9092671

>>9092585
Typical shounen brainlet. Back to /a/ and your cartoons made for literal children.

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>>9092492
Who invited this nigga?

>> No.9092729

>>9092492
Anya, your Engligh reps.....

>> No.9092787

Doxxers getting scared of Reine's personal death squad will never not be entertaining.

>> No.9092797

>>9092492
You think normies are sending akasupas? You think normies are buying dakimakura, oppai mousepads, and voice sets? Kill yourself, you cum guzzling tranny faggot.

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>>9092671
You've got quite the mouth for a SEAnigger. I will gladly turn you into my ladyboy bitch.

>> No.9092854

>>9092492
>Cover NEVER listens to your complaints
How new are you? lol not even the faggots who started watching vtubers when HoloEN debuted would believe such a thing.

>> No.9092868

>>9081883
The most entertaining holo

>> No.9092915

>>9092845
based Jirenscholar

>> No.9093159

>>9090142
some gachis already leave zombie girl and move to en2 isn't, her top gachikois also spend less sc now

>> No.9093160

>>9081883
Zombie BITCH. Join a different company if you want to interact with males!

>> No.9093509

>>9086869
She can seriously get fired for shit like that, imagine the mealtdown on reddit...

>> No.9093645

>>9088807
Moona always spoils the membership. if they're don't like it, I'm sure some of them will be talking about it. She know her gachi not lass long if she does not treat them well.

>> No.9093669

>>9081883
R E N T F R E E
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>> No.9093895

>>9081883
Her intentions aren't harmful, she wants to expand hololive and make it more inclusive, not just for the outright anime/vtuber crowd, and because of what she likes is quite broad and like most normies it could propel herself and others in hololive into a more broad status.

The issue lies in the unstable nature of who she's with, sooner or later she'll have to start ghosting some of these e-celebs and even clippers just to avoid fallout, which would put strain on her since she loves talking about them all the time

I love Ollie, and she's the one thing redeeming the ID branch, but sooner or later she's gonna hurt herself, it hurts me enough to know she's another apex player, let alone having to learn e-drama is a bitch and watching the fallout live when it does happen.

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>>9089210
Holy shit I forgot about the Alfred stuff

>> No.9094753

>>9094694
kek

>> No.9094759

>>9088201
>By reddit and twitter? Most likely, though it's a bit different this time since it's now common knowledge Connor has shat on Hololive fans in his streams before.

I only remember him shitting on r/hololive actually and when clip of that was posted there right at the time when Mori episode was aired btw redditfags only praised him for pointing out the problems of their community it was rather pathetic even by reddit standards.

As for Charlie I think he was more impressed with Code Miko and she's not really a chuuba, anyway I'm okay with the collab in theory but his audience can be pretty toxic and Cali herself is so fucking awkward, what would they even do?

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>>9093895
>she's the one thing redeeming the ID branch
Shit taste, anon.

>> No.9094860

>>9092168
From his recent videos, I think Grant might be chasing after that China-money, and that’s why he’s flipping to Niji.

>> No.9094949

>>9094759
Charlie's collab'd with Projekt Melody before. They seem to be on friendly terms, without it seeming like one side is leeching from the other.

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>>9092168
>Garnt was ranting about Vtubers not interacting with real people
kek

>> No.9095056

SEA getting internet access was a mistake

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>>9093645
Yes Moona and we love you for it, now please go learn how to communicate in at least one language fluently

>> No.9095560

>>9095254
This. Hey Moon, I'm sure anons here would love to teach you English, among other things. Don't be shy now, girl.

>> No.9095575

>>9090234
wasn't that because of the council debut though?

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The only eceleb ill allow

>> No.9096458

>>9094860
Well same with Veibae and her cancelled collab she even made message for her bilibili fans although gigguk talked about Coco graduation stream and even explicitly stated that she left on her own terms and it's good for her.

>> No.9096463

>>9092168
Maybe if 'real people' would give any sort of reassurance that they wouldn't do shit like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsPDJfRY9u4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XYBIUGJvzs

Sure he's under a company now and probably won't touch stuff like this any longer, but that doesn't go for the rest of the independent large 'content creators'

>> No.9096594

>>9094759
>>9094759
>I only remember him shitting on r/hololive actually and when clip of that was posted there right at the time when Mori episode was aired btw redditfags only praised him for pointing out the problems of their community it was rather pathetic even by reddit standards.
Woah, Reddit seems to be a bunch of weaklets. I know where I am, but r/hololive users look like extremely clueless people and the very definition of consoomers

>> No.9096630

>>9096594
Such a bold, brave post. You have won our admiration and respect.

>> No.9096631

>>9096594
I saw one with a better argument but he got downvoted to hell.

>> No.9096830

>>9096630
I mean, I’m actually shocked and I don’t even know why, it’s not like I’m not aware Reddit in general is a shitty place

>> No.9096886

>>9088700
Wtf Islamic law is based?

>> No.9096896

>>9096830
Well, if I give it some thought, if someone starts shitting on 4chan, unless it's really normalfag stuff like "wah they're racist and mean" odds are I'll think they're based.

>> No.9097547

>>9086569
Why would Ame give a single shit?

>> No.9097667

>>9090147
>Still cracks me up when Kiara sounded absolutely disgusted when chat guessed Connor as her mystery collab.
She keeps getting more based by the day, to think I used to anti the shit out of her.

>> No.9097684

>>9090147
>>9097667
when was this?

>> No.9097715

>>9097667
She really has shattered my image of her, I always thought she’d be the management/eceleb cocksucking queen but she’s alright, shame her voice will still filter me

>> No.9097719

>>9097547
>>9095016
She saw the writing on the wall.

>> No.9097796

>>9097715
her voice is cute you homo

>> No.9097851

>>9091083
>>9092074
>>9097684

>>8709041
I think it was in a member's watchalong for one of the anime movies, I can't remember which. Basically she was talking about having the "Tales Of" interview in holotalk, and if I'm remembering the situation correctly, someone asked if she'd interview Connor on holotalk, and she was like "Fuck no, what does he have to do with Hololive?"
But those VODs are very long, and there's no timestamps in the comments so it'd take awhile for me to find

>> No.9097860

>>9097715
I knew she wasn't as bad as I thought she was when she started clucking in her streams.

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>>9090150
Because at least deadbeats have people who don't want Mori to involve herself with e-celebs.
Zombie fans even among members are as much of fans of TT people and other e-celebs as she is.

I really hope Mori postpones that connor collab as long as she can so maybe Ollie just gives up and does it by herself.

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Funny how Fauna bully thread got axed after a couple dozens of posts. Meanwhile owl bully threads have been going for hours each day and mods don't give a shit.
Mods like green mommy ASMR huh?

>> No.9098065

>>9097851
>source: dude trust me

>> No.9098084

>Thread started as an Ollie anti
>Dissolves into KFP circlejerk

Many such cases

>> No.9098303

>>9098084
The moment kfp get involved in a thread, it always becomes a circlejerk

>> No.9098379

>>9088201
Mori should just do the collab with him as her roommate. That way she would not bring his fans to hololive and the collab would not be so strict on what they can discuss.

>> No.9098555

>>9098379
I don't think he would find the wigger woman interesting, unless she starts talking about poopoo, peepee and cum.

>> No.9098568

>>9086869
Inb4 Reine put her to jail for doing her because she is that powerful kek

>> No.9098696

>>9091083
>>9092074
>>9097684
As >>9097851 said it was whichever member stream she first mentioned the Tales of interview. But even then there was a previous incident weeks/months before that where chat was spamming his name and she asked "Who is that?" Though the amount of people spamming the 2nd time was actually pretty shocking.

>> No.9098721

>>9081883
Everyone's overthinking this.
Mrs. Kureiji is just retarded and doesn't understand what she's doing.

>> No.9098734

>>9081883
Because her roommate's the biggest fangirl there is.
https://youtu.be/vlRJaXn-dBI and even made fangushing vids before

>> No.9098782

>>9098734
What the fuck is that channel

>> No.9098811

>>9098782
This anon claimed this was Kronii's roommate earlier today. Ignore it.

>> No.9098815

>>9098734
Why would Ollie make her character's voice more annoying than her normal one?

>> No.9098863

Hey guys, Connor here. AMA

>> No.9098880

>>9098863
How brutally are you planning on fucking bedridden Ironmouse?

>> No.9098915

>>9092424
Whats appealing about that guy? Is it just his numbers

Id understand the lust a bit if he WAS attractive physically but he is not

>> No.9098937

>>9098880
If she truly wants it, I'm not holding back. I'm fucking her 'til she gets internal organ damage.

>> No.9098965

>>9098815
That's not Ollie anon.
This is Ollie
https://youtu.be/wSxCk5pYHDw

>> No.9098988

>>9098937
We all know she wants your tiny white cock Connor. She probably fingers herself to your Ironmouse cosplay that's on her 2nd monitor while streaming to her 2k something viewers

>> No.9099005

>>9098937
so she's finally going to die huh

>> No.9099015

>>9098965
It's clearly Ollie, anon.
The cringe sense of humor checks out https://youtu.be/2N6_kAhkimE

>> No.9099040

>>9098915
Just his numbers which ain't nothing compared to his bf gigcuck

>> No.9099067

>>9099040
god I want gigguk to fuck my ass so bad

>> No.9099070

>>9098988
I would show the 6.5 inch punisher to you so you can seethe when i come after your oshi, but I'm currently having a family dinner.

>> No.9099071

>>9099015

That girl doesn't even follow Connor on twitter

>> No.9099087

>>9099071
Ollie is just being discrete about voice fucking Connor on other platforms

>> No.9099104

>>9099070
You oshi will die if I sneeze on her, much less cum on her face. Don't tempt me

>> No.9099117

>>9099087
>her tweets are mostly in french
sure anon

>> No.9099124

>>9099067
t. Connor

>> No.9099130

Ollie is the only Holo i'm not subscribed to because she's a honorary Vshojo

>> No.9099136

>>9099117
Who says multilingual Ollie can't speak French?
She's Connor's "French" sekso friendo

>> No.9099158

>>9099104
My oshi? Funny words. I think you mean my fuckdoll.

>> No.9099163

>>9099130
are you me???

>> No.9099175

>>9099158
Ironmouse sex sleeve? You murder anon

>> No.9099246

>>9098065
>>9097851
>>9098696

Found it and even clipped it for you.

https://files.catbox.moe/mf2hp9.mp4

Something like that definitely got mentioned in hlgg the instant it came out of her mouth so I just tracked it down from the timestamp on that post.

>> No.9099268

>>9090147
Kek. Kiara is based

>> No.9099300

>>9099246
that's the good shit

>> No.9099309

>>9099246
Who ended up being the mystery guest?

>> No.9099319

>>9099309
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCAn8Pga6PQ

>> No.9099325

>>9099246
Holy based
Even Kiara who has a bit of an ego has the self respect to scoff at the groomers
Mori could learn from her

>> No.9099362

>>9099246
those comments wanting him or gigguk, they're fucking members too holy shit

>> No.9099389

>>9099319
Thanks anon. You get a free dick suck coupon from me

>> No.9099431

>>9099362
>>>9090147
It was one or 2 comments that wanted that and they all started laughing when chicken pointed it out and said "Nope". It's kind of absurd to bring them on. It really makes no sense.

>> No.9099461

>>9099246
Crazy how kiara constantly proves she's the most based member of myth

>> No.9099563

>>9099246
>"He collabed with your wife once, months ago, so..."
I don't like to point fingers but Mori going on TT once unironically makes faggots think they have a connection with all of Hololive now

>> No.9099686

>>9099246
SEAdog? I know they live in muddy slums but That's racist

>> No.9099759

>>9099246
the hatred of this chicken is unwarranted when time and time again she proves she's based when it matters

>> No.9099995

>>9086437
Did this Arcadium guy kill himself? are you implying this connor guy will an hero too? I'm a bit out of the loop.

>> No.9100087

>>9099995
Lots of chuubas came out being "manipulated" by arcadum because they were threatened by HoloEN gen 2, so they had to do something drastic and drop some dirt on someone for drama exposure.
https://youtu.be/vlRJaXn-dBI

>> No.9100349

>>9099995
>>9100087
What the guy did was creep level sure but the people complaining about it are grown fucking adults and all of them posting that shit at the same time?! Western vtuber scene can honestly rot in hell with all the drama shit they bring.

>> No.9100399

>>9100349
Their women of course they're retarded

>> No.9100429

>>9099362
Interesting how nobody ever mentions that third guy from the podcast.

>> No.9100481

>>9100429
He's inoffensive and has never tried to leech off of the vtuber fanbase like his cohosts.

>> No.9100503

>>9100349
The more glaring thing is: these people are fucking vtubers. The whole gig comes with a ready-made excuse to never reveal your identity and never interact outside of your 'role' as the character - and especially not with a fucking online DM of all people. Arguably not even your manager needs to know your real name or address. Even if you want to be friends, nothing stops you from doing that under your assumed name and nothing else, hell, people have been doing that in EVE for decades, why would you ever leak your real name let alone give out your address?

>> No.9100516

>>9099362
There's a lot of reddit in KFP sadly.

>> No.9100613

>>9098988
Anon, Ironmouse usually gets 9k viewers these days.

>> No.9100659

>>9100503
Sadly, more and more willingly put their personal info out on the internet these days.

>> No.9100691

>>9100613
That's more reason to not kill herself by drinking Connor's thin welsh butter cum

>> No.9101360

>>9098379
Being part of hololive is the very thing that makes her somewhat interesting enough for people like moist (or their audience), indie rapper career in Japan probably doesn't cut it, same with that TT podcast bdw.

>> No.9101595

>>9098915
deep voice I guess, there is nothing "deeper" than that.

>> No.9102345

>>9101595
>there is nothing "deeper" than that
his asshole after I rape him when he tries to groom my oshis

>> No.9102662

>>9098915
He is a pretty charming and funny guy if you're looking for a serious answer. If not then he is a groomer and is hypnotizing our oshi to suck his cock as we speak.

>> No.9102736

>>9101360
Charlie doesn't seem like clout chaser.

>> No.9102800

Define e-celebs because from what i googled vtubers are e-celeb by definition.

>> No.9102809

>>9102800
3d people I don't like

>> No.9102839

>>9102809
this.

>> No.9102851

>>9102809
Kek

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>>9085617
>shion and haachama being huge menheras
You shit your whore mouth this instant

>> No.9103004

>>9094851
Both boring

>> No.9103175

>>9087732
>because she was way more excited to collab with him than any Holo
I love how you recite this shit as gospel. Never change, /vt/.

>> No.9103680

>>9099246
>>9099759
This. She may be narcissistic and say questionable things at times but you can tell she genuinely cares about Hololive unlike certain people like Ollie and Mori.

>> No.9103788

>>9098379
You think any e-celeb would actually give a shit about her roommate if she doesn't have her avatar to leech off of?

>> No.9103799

>>9102662
How will she ever? when she goes to japan do you really believe hes going to ask her to meet up

It is weird otherwise to cling to interacting with an 18 yo girl when you're around 30 yourself

>> No.9103853

>>9103799
>18 yo girl

>> No.9104249
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>>9103680
>Mori doesn't care about hololive timeloop
Come on, anon. You antis have bored me to death with these old ass rrats. Make something new already.

>> No.9104319

>>9103788
I mean i don't like Ch*rlies content but he has been proven to not be clout chasers unlike Connor.

>> No.9104592

>>9104319
Do people actually want to see a chubba acting like this
https://files.catbox.moe/ndyo64.mp4

>> No.9104772

>>9104249
She sounded 10x more enthusiastic while collabing with Gigguk than any other Holo.

>> No.9105140

>>9104772
Anon, that was after that scuffed gura collab that got a lot hate for her being unprepared for the collabs. After that collab where she was with Ollie and Coco she proved that gigcuck collab was just a bad timing and has been better at collabs after it.

And i know this board has stick up their ass about Mori and it will never accept her even if she turned into idol like all the others.

>> No.9105291

>>9098915
Him: white, above average looks
Them: 3rd world women

>> No.9105365

>>9099246
As others mentioned, Kiara can be a bit of full of herself and sometimes she opens her mouth more than necessary but she actually wants to improve Hololive and she’s very conservative about it. I should start watching her again
As for Mori, I don’t know if she’s still 5% but my oshi and fanbase appreciates her very much so might as well check her out in the future, as long as she doesn’t try to bring e-celebs and the like
Ollie will always be a lost cause for me

>> No.9105391

>>9105140
MORI DOESNT CARE ABOUT HOLOLIVE AND WOULD RATHER COLLAB WITH OUTSIDERS

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>>9105365
>I don’t know if she’s still 5%
Yeah she just went released her 6%

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>>9105140
Yeah it's not as if she ruined the TTRPG collab recently because once again she didn't give enough of a fuck to test her OBS setup. Because it wasn't a collab with someone whose dick she wants to suck.

>> No.9105838

>>9102800
>a person who is famous on the internet

Is this it? Because that's the most critical part. A 'person'. As much as it might seem to imply undesirable things, vtubers are not 'people' in the same way that e-celebs because of one key difference: the e-celeb has their real-life identity, their face and name, inextricably tied to their words and actions. Their marketing, their branding - everything is tied to that face. They have no other character to switch to, no way to disappear. Even if Logan Paul, for example, stops all his activities, his history still follows him.
This, ironically, makes them more prone to lying, hypocrisy, drama, and backstabbing than a vtuber who hides behind a mask. Why?
Because they only have one chance. They thrive on controversy and drama because it keeps them fresh and relevant. They must not fade, lest they be replaced with yet another similar personality in the minds of their fickle internet audience - it's not like most of them have a unique character design or concept to distinguish themselves particularly, after all. If they lose relevancy, that's it. At the same time, they must frantically distance themselves from people and topics which the tide of public opinion turns against, lest it make them persona non grata or taint them as being just another part of the fad, to be forgotten.

The last part is the most crucial aspect. They must constantly take sides. They have presented themselves as people with a human face - a realistic, likeable, and usually, it is implied, genuine - person! - so they will be treated as people. And most of their audience, unconsciously or otherwise, believe that a person should possess enough courage of their own convictions to state their stance on 'important things'. Such as the latest e-celeb drama.

Now notice how company vtubers can say, "I'm not really allowed to talk about this" easily and diffuse shit like that. Because they present themselves as entertainers. At the end of the day, they drew boundaries, partially because they work under a company and partially because they are distanced from their apparent personhood by anime avatars. There is a tacit understanding among most of their audience that these boundaries shouldn't be crossed.
Many e-celebs have no such outlet because of the way they commonly present themselves - independent leaders of their own cults of personality, where if a company even exists, they control the direction of it - and so they cannot escape public condemnation for inaction or neutrality. In many cases, they have already crossed the Rubicon themselves when they endorsed or condemned something else of a similar nature. So the vast majority of them can be expected to be fair-weather friends who will not only not help you when you're down, but turn around and plunge the dagger deeper, because they have no other choice if they want to survive.

>> No.9105935

>>9105769
Watch the stream, nigga.
She did prepare for two hours before the stream but just underestimated how much of her laptop can take.
I get that you need to hate Mori but at least watch the streams and don't be threadreader.

>> No.9106024

>>9105935
Your oshi is too retarded to understand a laptop underclocks itself by default if the power cable isn't plugged in. I was watching her for 5 minutes recently, she said her battery was almost empty, plugged in the power cable and suddenly her avatar gained 10 fps.
And you cuckbeats don't even have the balls to tell her.

>> No.9106192

>>9106024
Oh i am not saying she isn't retarded.
>And you cuckbeats don't even have the balls to tell her.
Because how the fuck we would have known that the laptop was running out of battery until she told us. Deadbeats would have told her if she had said earlier.

>> No.9107090

>>9083442
>Hololive feels like the Warring states of Harem anime.

I want this anime to happen so bad now

>> No.9109129

>>9100481
Who cares about leeching off vtuber when you got Pewdiepie to leech off instead kek

>> No.9110201

>>9095016
Do you think Ame tries very hard to not start arguments with Mori and Kiara about doing collabs with non vtubers?

>> No.9110214

>>9081883
did she was the reason holoID got hated by schizophrenia?

>> No.9110833

>>9110214
Learn english before you post, SEAnigger.

>> No.9111072

>>9110201
Ame has probably personally experienced the 180 degree shift in attitude from people completely ignoring her to trying to get her to notice them and collab once she got into hololive.

>> No.9111084

>>9110201
If she does, Ame is a hypocrite. Basically a born again vtuber. She did thot streams and collabed with men in her past life. She also carried water for Commie Con like the rest of HoloMyth.

Honestly, if I was EN management, I would've already metaphorically strangled them for being starstruck whores. If you want to be a whore then go be an indie whore or join niggersanji. Hololive is supposed to be an idol company. Having your idols interacting in person with men is absolutely haram. It goes against the teachings of neckbeard Allah.

Lord knows I would've moved heaven and earth, burning every ounce of clout I had, to get Ollie expelled from EN-lite after the yubi yubi incident. It would've been a hill worth conquering, just to hammer home the point that anyone could be graduated. This is the kind of tightfisted management EN needed, not the permissions fuckery arc they've been going through.

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