/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

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The holofags should make their own board, they're not welcome in /vt/

Numbers is turning on Fauna

>>90852021

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0dIjUbHly40

Peko won
FBK won

People start to spam headcanon again?

Fauna is a dishonest faggot

Hololive ruin vtubing

Fauna is my friend

>>90851973
I love Udon! I love Steak!
I love Free-time! I love Management!

Moom butt

Off the gates with this one eh

Liggers won

>>90852180
based on facts as proven by multiple holos

>>90852199
debunked live on stream

No one will be able to replace the Fauna-shaped hole in my heart. Myth, Advent, Justice, they're fine, but they're not Fauna.
At least I still have Mumei and Bae.

>>90852100
I have to wonder if mumei and gura are even going to bother streaming before fauna's graduation

What did shiori mean by this?

I will be frank, I do know now anything about FlowGlow, can I get a quick rundown? Preferably Reandown

>>90852100

>>90852204
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65HJRp_GAig

Glad that people are starting to see Hololive's true face

>>90852257
Is Shiori autistic?

>>90852259
They're all ex AKB members.

>>90852209

>ReGLOSS 3D Live Reach the Top
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIYvks57cQA
>1st Album "ReGLOSS"
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mchguozrz3dFDusBI-DFmOiDYdKew6Hb4
>Feeling Gradation *new*
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=u4uDiV3u-do

>セプテンバーさん / September-san (cover) *new*
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=OHQ-npgd2Ok
>快晴 / Kaisei (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=YA7QcvdHk70
>青と夏 / Ao To Natsu (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnAk_ZGfvdw
>青のすみか / Ao no Sumika (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=efF_c9D-R-A
>Bling-Bang-Bang-Born (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=vFDysagoQw0
>奏 / Kanade (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=VT1on_WaMzw
>My Dearest (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s
>DAYBREAK FRONTLINE (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg
>名前のない怪物 / Namae No Nai Kaibutsu (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

>Shunkan Heartbeat Otonose Kanade SOLO ver.
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnRwOG06UtI
>カバー曲 / Cover Songs
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUEA7yBOKxdRPdI4vYmL-dR
>歌まとめ / All Songs
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUogkBSe9WqTU0X1ia7xi_1

>>90852244
You know what is going on with Mumei
As for Gura, who the fuck knows man. At this point I'm just assuming she's undergoing intense chemo for pancreatic cancer or some shit just to make myself feel better

>>90852297
Anon?

How did they do it?

>>90852297
yes

>>90852359
finals are basically over bro. they're either this week or next.

I fell into the Minecraft SMP rabbit hole recently and literally why is this shit so good? I been watching straight up 4 hour video of people doing the most over the top and dramatic shit in Minecraft with proper narrative and shit
Stuffs like GTA server came close, but it lack staying power

>>90852377
Genuinely what the fuck is wrong with anycolor
Do they hate their fans? What's next, no Itabags?

roru

>>90852277
kek

>>90852417
Has Ayame or Shion ever been gone this long without an official notice

>>90852026
this place will be barren wasteland

>>90852448
JPs actually care about their fans

>>90852297
She’s had Henma assigned as her manager. That should answer your question.

>>90852390
And immediately after that is Christmas break, she didn't come back this year proper until mid February so I'm going to assume she won't be doing the same until then too

So like wtf happened to this thing have any of the girls even mentioned it lately?

>>90852382
It helps to live in a 3rd world country.

>>90852500
Oof

>>90852417
The most Gura thing would be never leaving, but also never streaming.

>>90852390
Anon, which week the semester ends is highly dependent on which school she’s attending.

Pekora speech intrigue me because apparently even on JP side people always think she is about to graduate? Like what's up with that?

Cover going to get lit up again in four hours.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO_SRyuW22Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO_SRyuW22Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO_SRyuW22Q

>>90852500
>The Broken Promise
Woah...

>>90852500
It says right there coming Dec 2024

>>90852482
>she didn't come back this year proper until mid February
Wait, did she say that?

can Fauna cancel the graduation and unfuck us?

>>90852594
Dec 2024 has come

>>90852572
She had that public breakdown on stream back in 2021, remember?

>>90852626
She's not going to. I don't know why you think she would.

>>90852619
No I'm judging from her stream activity

>>90852500
I think most of the girls memory holed this right after the announcement stream

>>90852619
No, she said her hiatus wasn’t just a school thing, so that probably shouldn’t be taken as a precedent either.

>>90852500
They filmed this while knowing that fauna was going to graduate didn't they?

>>90852654
for new year present

>>90852572
Some Japs think that there's nothing more for her to do since she reached the mountain top.

>>90852572
She just wants to stream. What that really means is she doesn't want to deal with all the backend stuff with running your own merch or sponsorships like Aqua is doing.

>>90852572
She had a breakdown at least once when management canned her project once. She stopped streaming for a week.

>>90852383
kek, i told you she was going to reply to herself

will fauna collab with filian? that's my keep watching or drop test. I don't even care about shondo or shit like bao

>>90852626
She doesn't love you that much

>>90852500
They broke the promise to release it.

>>90852765
Those parasites will probably harass her until she says yes.

>>90852626
Why is /#/, the supposed Fauna fanboy general, not cognizant of the fact that Fauna has clearly been considerably more miserable for the past 16 months than what preceded those?

Or is it cognizant but it doesn't care and wants to see her endlessly suffering?

>>90852724
If there's anything the recent string of graduations have taught us it's that what the Holo says they want to do has no actual bearing on who actually graduates

>>90852781
That’s why Mumei doesn’t promise anything, and not even that is a promise.

>>90852783
Precope is interesting

>>90852805
why the spacing?

>>90852383
>I used the name in vain
oh woman you so silly

>>90852837
Why not?

Don't fall for the newfag trap, by the way. It precedes Reddit.

>>90852626
unfortunately she's already made other commitments post holo

Too many graduation baits in Hololive, I can't keep it up anymore

>>90852805
he's still at bargaining

>>90852781
Kino, bravo Kojima I mean Yagoo

>>90852805
Nobody saw Fauna's graduation coming, there wasn't a single sign of it unless you're seriously entertaining the idea that she's graduating because she and kronii broke up

>>90852805
>expecting any form of loyalty from /#/

>>90852805
>Fauna has clearly been considerably more miserable for the past 16 months
I'm going to need some source on that

>>90852899
The signs were probably her more openly bitching about her manager, honestly, when she didn't do it before.

>>90852876
no, its just shit, it makes me take a short pause reading

>>90852744
Fucking insane how that still stick, anyone with a brain can tell management been treating her better than ever, she get stuffs thrown at her by just being there and stream. She is not graduate any time soon

>>90852887
Anyone who doesn't want to graduate will make a statement soon

>>90852937
SINCE WHEN
Fauna has never openly bitched about management, which is why everyone was so surprised by her being the one graduating over management disputes while the actual holos who complain about management often like kronii and Kiara or heck even people like pekora or Risu are still here

>>90852359
>mumei
uni + menhera due to fauna
>gura
menhera due to fauna, aqua, chloe and ame

>>90852957
People said the same thing about holox and Aqua, oh hey guess who's the most recent graduates on the JP side

>>90852899
>there wasn't a single sign of it
Yeah 3 videos of her RM after 3 years of inactivity wasn't a sign of anything.

why is niggers assuming i'm sapling that feel sad for Fauna, i just want her to cancel her graduation so people stop this holo vs holo bullshit and shitting on holos spam

>>90852899
>Nobody saw Fauna's graduation coming
I did
>>90852934
There was a clear shift after her Japan trip and we talked about it multiple times. She never went to Japan again or had any JST collabs after that point. Watame has been begging for her attention for the whole year, for example. The signs were all there. She's been more checked out for a long while now.

>>90852572
I don't think she's going to, but that fear has some basis. She complains about the management fairly often

can anyone explain to me in detail the ina visa issue, why it happened, how long will the problem last, and who do i blame for it

>>90853054
Managers and management isn't hololive

>>90852934
And that's how we know you're a baitposter
She's been openly shitting on Hololive and idol culture for the past few months

Transcript from Miko's stream
>Though I've interacted with all these people, I've never been told "do this" or "do that".
>It's always "what do you think of this?" In the past, they'd always ask, "What do you want to do?".
There you go, case closed.

>>90853054
Pretty selfish of you

>a big mac talk each 3 months 6 months ago
the Maccasnivore rrat told me she will mention big mac again this month
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgM8vwWrrSM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsRK3-ggKrQ

>>90853085
cover fucked up
will last until next year
cover

My kamioshi even tho I don't watch her

Why does IRyS hate Fauna's so much?

>>90853109
where are people pulling these transcripts from anyways

>>90853096
am i blind? am i just imagining all the posts shitting on shiori bae kronii miko matsuri suisei etc?
>>90853114
i only care about my oshi

>time loop again
She-who-must-not-be-named has already stated the reason why she's leaving; she made it clear that she is not fit for Hololive.
That's all there is to it. End of story!
Now go talk about stream.

>>90853109
Hololive is good.

>>90853148
she has audios masturbating to Fauna's ASMR

>>90853148
She's Pippa oshi too

>>90853109
She's got a lot of free-time!

>>90853109
>back then they didn't give a lot of suggestions
>nowadays, they propose a lot of things

>>90853148
Even tho I needed to watch a fucking drama video to know she was graduating.

>>90853068
Based grudgeposter
Sapcucks are all blind bootlicking corpofaggots

>>90853054
there's always holo vs holo bullshit tho, graduation or not
why does it only bother you now

>>90853178
link?

>>90853154
Yura.
https://x.com/melange82/status/1863983421124718794
Stream in question if anyone wants to debunk it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euH3bOsusCQ

>>90853195 (me)
Or It's Chloe idk

>>90852412
Might be a case where they're concerned that cosplayers would get assaulted.
You KNOW how insane nijibabas can get.

>>90853010
Fauna had opened up more about management lately. Talking about the trouble with her 3D debut for instance.
It wasn't like she did it all the time or anything but it was an uptick from how things were before.
However I agree, it was a surprise, I didn't see it coming. Yes I thought Fauna's mood had been overall on average worse basically ever since the puddle arc but we had a lot of happy times this year.

>>90853010
>Fauna has never openly bitched about management,
She said it was management who fucked up their debut
It was management who ignored her fucking request for the Minecraft server
It was management who didn't tell her until two fucking weeks after it got approved that she was able to play Dark Souls because "they forgot"
It was management who decided to fuck her 3D debut and she had to fight to fix it after their song perms fuckup

>>90853208
>they propose a lot of things
no wonder lately the streaming ideas were shit

>>90853215
But anon... (I) am a sapling and I'm not bootlicking at all.

>>90853068
Yeah, the puddle thing, we know about that but that always felt more physically tired rather than graduation bait

>>90853109
>Trusting management's lapdog

>>90853208
>>90853248
You have no idea what propose means.

>>90853071
The ones complaining (publicly at least) usually stay though. Towa, Suisei, and Pekora bitched about management all the time and if anything management caters them to more and more. It's the corporate slaves like Marine or the pushover ones like Kanata that are the most at risk, since they will just snap. Then you have the personal cases like Nene with her issue and Korone with her family that are at risk.

>>90853280
Go back to /jp/ Miko schizo

>>90853221
what makes you think that I've never thread police the thread to stop holo vs holo before?

>>90852572
I know there are some who really want her to graduate next since they've been posting quite a lot about it lately, but I just can't see it.

>>90853096
And I guess miko isn't hololive either huh

>>90853304
Go back to r/hololive, bootlicker

>>90853010
She talked about how exhausting her JP trip was (and sounded pretty miserable any time she talked about anything work related from that trip), talked about how she wasn't gonna do more collabs with JPs because they messed her schedules up, talked about how perms were an hassle multiple times (Still didn't get UFO 50 perms, by the way), and talked about management fucking things up multiple times.

Just because she doesn't go full clickbait anger at it doesn't mean she was being particularly subtle about it.

>>90853241
Don't forget about the alien isolation debacle

>>90853109
That's cool for Miko. Have managers ever gave har a green light on a project, then canceled it halfway through, fucked up legalities on her song, laughed at her for requesting game perms, fought her on merch ideas that other holos easily got? Maybe experiences of top JP holos are irrelevant and do not reflect the bullshit other holos go through.

reminder fauna earn 1-2 million usd/ year

>>90853343
who let Argentinian post here

>>90853276
>but that always felt more physically tired rather than graduation bait
I understand thinking that at the start, but when you look at the 16 or so months that followed, you should have seen the pattern, man.

>>90853109
It is kind of weird how there's rrats about Miko and Suisei getting preferential control, and then both Miko and Suisei come out hard to defend management....

>>90853109
Btw from my understanding, this have nothing to do with "defending management"
Miko is probably referring to personal manager which obviously does not have anything to do with the company direction that drove away Holos, and are being unfairly blamed
So both side in this thread are jumping to conclusion

https://www.youtube.com/live/-wm7MmQ5M_o
https://www.youtube.com/live/-wm7MmQ5M_o
https://www.youtube.com/live/-wm7MmQ5M_o

>>90853345
>>90853241
To add on to the JP trip, that mother fucker fucked up the schedule so she had to cancel her member stream because she had to go in early despite not being told

>>90853363
Wrong, mid tier holos only make around 500K-700K a year

>>90853363
Possibly, who cares though?
She has the potential to make plenty of cash as an indie and money doesn't matter that much once you have "enough" anyway unless you're one of those people who have that empty boundless hole in them that can never be filled no matter how much wealth you accumulate. That's not fauna.

>>90853234
the women with 100 oshi

>>90853345
>no vegan food
>her cat isnt there
>doesnt speak japanese
>all that for 2 months

Of course Miko has nothing bad to say about Cover or management. She's a top dog and can get whatever she wants. It's almost like her experiences with management doesn't represent everyone else's experiences or the horror stories we've heard from other girls. Miko's words ring hollow on this subject.

>>90853232
Yura tends to be reliable, I'll give it a read through. I was waiting on someone to make a transcript since I know my Japanese isn't good enough to translate something important like this.

>>90853327
what makes you think the holo vs holo bullshit would stop if the graduation was canceled?

>>90853442
1 month

>>90853426
>that's not fauna
but are you fauna tho

>>90853433
Fucking Artia was one of her oshis and I refuse to accept that the girls who knew dox shit about the holos didn't know how much of a backstabber that chink whore was.

>>90853397
>You are idol right
Ame...

>>90853478
still a lot, also probably she needed her iron supplements(?)

>>90852899
Nah, there were signs
>Longer breaks
>Mostly stopped doing events whereas she had been pretty active before
>Basically never interacted with JPs again after the Japan trip
>Never went to another offcollab where before it seemed like she never missed them
That isn't even getting into more recent stuff like RM activity and the massive increase in collabs. I'm not sure what happened in Japan that crushed her soul or disillusioned her, but it was something.

>>90853241
Also adding that Amnesia stream she had to fight to keep the VOD public

>>90853448
Anyone who didn't acknowledge THAT fact is tonedeaf
>Yes, I'm okay, thanks for worrying, but I can't say how things are for other members.

>>90853374
In this thread? Where schizos are just waiting to start waving around graduation bait the moment any Holo says anything bad about her life? Yeah, no

>>90853363
Proof? She barely even churned out merch and voicepacks and i don't expect her to have anything big for her graduation

>>90853468
it will never stop, but its not gonna as spammy as this, we basically got raided by discord, flips, phasecuck, and nijiniggers 24/7 now instead of the usual 18/7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2rb4SZMH28
there you go

I really hope she rebrands and gives herself a real name "Lemonleaf" is fucking stupid

Fuck Fauna

>>90853611
>Names herself Fauna
>Is Vegan
What did she mean by this?

>>90853636
sure

>>90853636
God, I wish...

Admit it numberlings, you are now on the losing team

>was on a long vacation
>site is utterly on meltdown mode
>browse archived
>see shits happen while i was gone

So faunaschizo and won? And anti are rampaging all over due to fauna's "disagreement with management" reasons for graduating?

>>90853506
>I'm not sure what happened in Japan that crushed her soul or disillusioned her, but it was something
She was decently open about it in her streams right after. The work ethic over there is intense and she had a lot of shit to do, which wasn't helped by communication issues and poor management.
Even without what she told us, we can loo kat what that trip produced. She was in Japan for over a month and all she did was practice and some filming for events that would happen later throughout the year like the HoloFes and Nene's anniversary. Aside from that, she had... 4 collabs? She probably felt really lonely there if I had to guess.

>>90853608
The udon IS that good in Japan!

>>90853671
i won and everyone in hololive is ganging up on fauna

Why are there so many cheap baits today?

>>90853692
witch you did this I know you did

>>90853657

Wouldn't have happened if they have union

>>90853703
>today

>>90853692
I KNEEL

>>90853672
Get over it just go watch Lost in Translation

>>90853692

>>90853671
>sapling and bad actors tried to rile every fanbase against their own oshi
>gets the 'npa' treatment
>proceed to attack other holos in retaliation
>everyone shits on them in return

i cant believe management are making kronii stay up this late to stream black company

The ENs might've defended management but all of them still like Fauna. However I think the JP holos except a few unironically hate Fauna now for being so blunt in her address and causing a massive shitstorm on hololive twitter

>>90853651
once fauna is gone the porn just isn't the same. the soul has left the body, all that remains is a flesh automaton animated by neurotransmitters.

>>90853796
Honestly, I think the Kronii + Fauna rrat has won. We'll have an opportunity to fully dispel it now when Fauna is about to leave, but at this point it seriously looks real and not like a schizo theory.

>>90853796
JP responses are mostly about Chloe, not Fauna

>>90853796
>for being so blunt in her address
en to jp translations are 1 to 1

>>90853796
The JPs are thinking more about people maliciously interpreting Chloe’s statements than what Fauna has said.

>>90853334
She unironically know, and that is why I don't think she is going to graduate, she is doing it out of spite (probably because she also think it's funny to mess with people about it)

>>90852572
She's just the most popular, so she has the most schizos.
Kinda like there's Suischizo here spamming how Suisei's gonna graduate soon for years on end.
But there's like 100,000 of them in Japan.

>>90853796
the JP holos should blame management for being inflexible and not compromising

>>90853805
My dick has nostalgia, I think I'll be able to make it work.
Fauna's design is just too beautiful to consign to the dust bin of lewds

>>90853793
bro it's 11pm in Vancouver calm down

>>90853672
OK, but Advent was there longer and did the same stuff and none of them suffered that fate. Not even Nerissa, who openly talked about being homesick. Maybe Fauna just wasn't built for the Hololive life in the end.

>>90853672
So wait she likes being an idol but doesn't like traveling to Japan? What the fuck kind of shit is that?

>>90853692
You insane fucking bitch, you're actually gonna win in the end
you better become a nice mom for ex-holos, you motherfucker

>>90853109
>There you go, case closed.
Chloe's case, I assume, because Fauna never even mentioned overwork unlike her.

>>90853805
Iunno, some people are into that

>>90853241
>WAAAAH WAAAAH I CANT PLAY THESE GAMES ON STREAM WAAAAAH
so what is fauna's problem again?

>>90853608
>streaming is my number 1 priority
atta girl

>>90853849
Or how that schizo uses an anti site to “prove” that they’re the most hated girls in Hololive, or in vtubing in general.

>>90853280
We believe in talents not the company nijisisters.

>>90853834
why did people deny it in the first place? they're literally genmates but kronii REFUSED to mention her or even say fauna's name for the past year. that alone should have been a huge red flag but then you factor in just how close they were the previous years and you'd have to be blind not to notice something was wrong.

>>90853868
If she wasn't built for the hololive life maybe she should've said that instead of stating disagreements with management and waxing on about how she really wants to be there but can't because management drove her out

>>90853796
You fucking retard, most of the JP stuff was due to Chloe, because there were concerns that the girls were being forced to overwork, except what happened with Chloe was that her personal manager was more concerned about her missing opportunities than her health.

>>90853920
as it should be
hololive only grew to what it is because of the personal connection fans have with the girls through streaming

>>90853608
>>90853920
If streaming is her number 1 priority then why the fuck did Fauna quit?

>>90853692
will she go super crazy if notfauna ignore her after graduation

>>90853956
>but can't because management drove her out

Why does Fauna hate IRyS so much?

>>90853862
You can't just dox her like that bro.

>it's the manager's fault
Then why not change the manager instead of graduating

>>90853386
>So both side in this thread are jumping to conclusion
The funny thing about the JP's damage control is that it's directed towards Chloe's announcement, which explicitly talked about overwork, but people itt are using it as if it was addressing Fauna's.

>>90853966
sound like fwmc (former?) manager

>>90853376
>both Miko and Suisei come out hard to defend management....
literally all of them did that

>>90853868
Cover learned their lesson from when Fauna turned into a puddle and paced Advent a bit more. Also, Nerissa had the exact opposite dietary problem from Fauna (the meats aren’t fatty and greasy enough for her).

>>90853954
Because Fauna decided to give it all up and graduate while kronii is staying on

>>90853977
let me call her and ask

>>90853343
Holo board sorry brownie

>>90853152
>>90854002

>>90853977
she didn't quit she wanted to stay
management didn't renew her contract and forced her to graduate

>>90854015
ask upper management why they wouldn't let her change

>>90853896
Fauna blamed management though, which Miko said never forced her to do anything.

>>90853868
Fauna did multiple 12 hour recording sessions all month, while streaming a bunch at 5am and recorded 16 performances. All the while having to eat the same shit over and over again because she's fucking vegan. Like it's really fucking funny how people memoryholed the first Japan trip, which was shorter, which she had no issues with and she was recording then too. It was specifically the one month one that fucked her because of all the work she ended up doing, dealing with a faggot, manager on top of being fucking lonely because all the girls had disjointed as fuck schedules.

If the trips were short she'd be fine. Because, again, her first trip where she fucked around with IRyS bae and Mumei was fine.

>>90854039
And fauna didn't see that?

>>90854061
no one bit your bait in hirys huh

>>90853178
is this true?

>>90854020
Regardless, any manager who doesn't put health and wellbeing first needs to be given the boot, just from a money perspective alone. The girls are too valuable to have them fucking up their voices/health from overwork.

>>90853363
Reminder, Miko Makes 2.5-3 Million USD a year.
https://youtu.be/OdEnVFqcOtc

>>90854082
So is there a reason why she couldn't do those short trips again and needed to graduate?

>Kiara: I'm so glad Fauna is graduating because she hasn't done much over the past three years. Lazy talents should be let go.

>>90853692
So what's the problem with her actually
Is it just her fit about Fauna early on?

>>90854057
>management didn't renew her contract and forced her to graduate
Sapling here and this is cope
Fauna left on her own terms and it's very obvious
She left because Hololive wouldn't give in to whatever requests she was making to make things more bearable for her
They didn't kick her out the door

>>90854061
IRyS is such a petty fucking bitch holy shit

>>90854100
nta but i like to think Fauna and IRyS were battling for Kronii, last Kronii collab with Fauna was in december and since then IRyS had a lot of collabs with Kronii

>>90854082
>have it rough for single month
>graduate
do women really?

>>90853109
what was that holozntl ow2 thing then?

>>90854131
She's a fucking attention whoring /here/tuber who may as well as be a /pol/schizo. She's trash.

>>90854118
Obviously, there is
If there was an easier and less harsh solution than graduating, Fauna would have taken it

>>90854130
based kiwawa

Hey guys heard there's an opening on the Lamy council

>>90854166
Nobody was forced to participate.

>>90854131
The one where she tried to backstab an old friend on the eve of her big corpo debut? That's part of it I guess. She's nuts, she admits she's nuts, she's unstable and kind dangerous to know. And her fans are annoying (the people who come into this thread and spam about her are often her fans, I don't know why they do it)

>>90854172
>t. i only read 4chan rrats

>>90854068
disagreement with management is not the same as blamed. they can't come to a common way forward. shit happens.

>>90854131
She’s an unironic schizo, and she later claimed that some of their mutual “friends” were trying to pit them against each other, which contributed to that situation.

>>90853905
Her manager is a whore

>>90853241
It's often difficult to observe the incompetence of management because so much of it is happening under the surface.
But take the case of Pomu's graduation
>announced at the wrong time
>date of memberships conclusion was wrong
>incorrect information about channel deletion wasn't corrected for 2 weeks
>finale cover was pulled at the last possible day for major revisions
>Kiara was told the wrong time and date of the graduation stream and almost missed it
The sheer cascade of incompetence....EVERYTHING was wrong, every possible thing they could get wrong was wrong.
Imagine dealing with that sort of management for years.

Artists came out of the woodwork to report that management was so incompetent, talents did everything in their power to contract with artists directly and go around management, because whenever they got involved it became retarded. Managers insisted for example that $60 for an edited compilation was a fair rate, while Kyo made secret deals paying them more like $1000 per video.

>>90854115
2mil at conversion rate and less than 1 mil after taxes, because she's in the 45% income tax bracket and still has a lot of other government and local taxes.

Anyway, extremely low for a 30k streamer, US ones would make $5-20mil per year on lower taxes.

smell like sea

>>90854204
Oh yes because her retarded tweet about managers being boyfriends wasn't some here pandering attention whoring. Go kil yourself.

>>90854173
yes
management disagreed and wouldnt let her do shorter trips

>>90853966
What happened to Chloe anyway? I remembered her being pretty close with Marine initially but for some reason she just completely withdrew into her shell except for Koyori and the more recent Kanaken. I wonder if she could have voiced her concerns better had she been more open about her situation with more experienced Holo and ended up staying.
The Holos who almost graduated always point to being convinced by someone who they're close with not to pull the trigger. With Suisei it was A-chan, Mio probably convinced half a dozen Holo to stay at this point, Azki stayed because of Sora and Suisei. Miss the clowns not the circus kind of deal I guess.

>>90854250
She's right though. Indies with "managers" aren't to be trusted.

>>90854179
>Grass/Fire/Water
These were the Hololive starter pack girls. Biboo isn't qualified. Not until we get another Grass type Holo.

>>90853608
I can't believe Yagoo is forcing the girls to defend the company's shitty practices
FUCK COVER AND FUCK YAGOO
I HOPE ALL CORPOS BURN IN HELL AND THE GIRLS ALL FIND SUCCESS AS INDIES

>>90854133
she said she wanted to be there

>>90854210
>disagreement with management is not the same as blamed
How dense are you?

>>90854194
why did lui and irys sound like they were not willing participants?

>>90854082
She wasn't forced to do all those performances, she could've said no to some of them. She also could've cut back on streaming. I don't get why she'd graduate due to decisions she made herself.

>>90854250
>>90854270
>indies
wait a fucking minute...

>>90854210
Maybe if she didn't then go on to stress how she's not leaving because she doesn't like hololive or idol stuff or all the other shit she was talking about you might have a point

>open /xhlgg/
>two anons praising Jurard
Jesus Christ

>>90854270
It doesn't fucking matter. It's attention whoring in the worst fucking way. Because she did it on purpose to be controversial because she has no other fucking merits but to make "based takes" since her streams are shit.

>>90854068
Are you assuming Fauna is graduating because management tried to force her do to something? All she said is a vague "disagreement with management", a phrase already used before by Aqua, nothing more. Everything else is your and everyone else's assumption.

So, I went and watched Towa's VCRGTA VOD last night, this part where she and Astel talk about how they can't use the studio for recording their anniversary live or personal project was really interesting for me. I can't remember seeing any conversation between Hololive member and Holostar member about their activities outside the regular streaming. Basically, even though they have world class facilities at their disposal, they're still having issue filling the manpower to help facilitated the recording session. Also, when they do the recording for their original songs, they often had to go to the studio where sound engineer is working. And, they all have their own favourite people to work with. (Towa has her own favourite sound engineer, so, she'd always go to that person when she does her recording)

I just can't stop grinning watching my favourite Holostar kusogaki and my kamioshi having these in-dept conversation about their job.

>>90854242
The US ones are also paying all staff they have out of pocket, and some of them run larger operations. That's the price you pay for being your own boss vs being in a corpo.

>>90854242
That.s 2.66 million so 1.2 million after taxes. And that's if she only makes 400 mil yen.

>>90854284
Anon, come on, read between the lines.
She wants to stay in the company but she had a limit to the shit she could take.
Management wasn't willing to give in to what she wanted, whatever it was (Almost certainly far more than one thing)
So she left.
There's no contradiction there. She wanted to stay but Cover was being unreasonable.

>>90854287
Disagreements go both ways you fucking retard. If she doesn't bend and they don't bend they're both to fucking blame.

>>90854230
>comparing niji to cover
phew man cover suits wish they could yab their talents out

>>90854284
she wanted to be there under the condition her demands were met

These Saplings attacking other fanbases make me think about unsubscribing from Fauna.

>>90854287
How retarded are you?

>>90854336
>Cover was being unreasonable.

>>90853926
Yep and I believe in Fauna over someone who defends Cover like her life depends on it.

>>90854300
why would you go there and then come here to report on it?
why do a lot of you also camp in global as if it's worth a fuck too?
do you have brain damage?

>>90854300
Glad we live rent free in your head.
Surprised you still hate us so much when Fauna is joining us, by the way.
You should start supporting girls and not the corporations they work for.

>>90854315
True, they funnel the money into their company because it's business income, so they pay way fewer taxes, until they actually use some of that money for personal reasons.

>>90854366
not now Jellyfriend... not now

>>90854336
>read between the lines.
Stop using this phrase, it just means "I pulled it from my ass" in this place

>>90854230
nobody gives a fuck about niji and your whores

>>90854258
For Chloe it was probably a 1+2 punch
>She felt she had a good run and wanted to move on
>Her health was Garbo because her shitty manager didn't pay attention to her health until it got really bad, instead pressuring her (with all the lovely jaapaneseisms you hear about no doubt, so never 'forced) to get as much shit done until she exploded.
Then she dediced she wanted out and that is that.

>>90854352
do it pussy

>>90854357
He said talents, not former talents

>>90854342
Same system. You can't fire bad people because muh respect culture. That's japanese work environment for you.
So inevitably people like Fauna get trash managers who are literally unable to be fired. Can't get rid of them under any circumstances.
Advent gets better management because Cover is a bigger and more successful company at that point. But the older gens are stuck with trash management that literally CANNOT be dislodged

>>90852021
Holy based

>>90854382
You are sincerely the only person that read "Cover fired me" from that. I promise you.

>>90852359
>You know what is going on with Mumei
What

>>90854357
Saplings don't anti holos btw

>>90854298
She could've also just been saying that to let the fans of her idol stuff down easy. We'll know if her indie self tries to do any idol-ish things.

>holobronies civil war

>>90854379
nta but what's the problem? threads been shit for 3 days already. May as well just have fun. The dramavermin aren't going to leave till we go back to doing our own thing and ignoring them.

>an immediate wall text reply
bots are something else

>>90854405
Different guy

>>90854298
isn't that just her way of saying that it's not because hololive is moving toward more music focused direction. or that she doesn't like doing 3d live as some have accused her of being.
whatever her issue is, it's not related to what the other girls are doing

>>90854373
Yea, and the girls get to write off any spending they do as business expenses as well, that's just how that tax systems are set up.
Point being, there's always tradeoffs, and only a fool would make wide sweeping assumptions given the wife variety of circumstances.

>>90854341
>>90854354
>I quit because I disagree with management
Is saying something in management is problematic for her unless she's trying to say she's the problem.

>>90854230
Well the only amends Cover could make is shitcanning Fauna's manager if he/she actually causes her to graduate. The dumbass just cost the company a popular IP and hundreds of thousand dollars of damage, not to mention the reputation damage as well.

>>90854433
based

>>90854394
Kronii and Kiara both publicly talked about management swaps so no that's not how it works

>>90854436
most are ignoring them, theyre just talking to themselves

I can't wait for notFauna to have her own personal "manager"

>>90854394
>But the older gens are stuck with trash management that literally CANNOT be dislodged
KEK this is just straight up not true.

>mogged all hololive EN

>>90854460
management is problematic for her for reasons that other holos don't have?

>>90854379
but this thread is so boring right now

>>90854488
giwtwm id have so many sex meetings with her

>>90854463
They can't, they literally can't. In fact you're expected to bow to that guy and call him "san".

>>90852781
kino

>>90854511
Ame had her reasons as well, obviously.
And just because there are people that are willing to tolerate things they see as problems from management, doesn't mean that they think it's hunky dory and shouldn't be improved on.

Lastly, I don't know why people assume that Gura, for example, isn't a few months away from being out the door.

https://x.com/sakamatachloe/status/1864203674479940073?t=La6cdwWx9LVBM_l_CYJrbQ&s=19
Wat is the reason she quit about ?

>>90854493
>Omega
Cannot is false for most cases, very hard to remove middle management is probably a bigger issue.

>>90854394
a lot of cases exist who prove that trash managers can be fired. Whatever Fauna's disagreements were aren't due to a bad manager but rather a sort of accommodation that she wanted from cover and they couldn't grant it to her solely as an exception

>>90854447
So instead she turned it into a direct attack on management and by extension any girl not willing to graduate with her

>>90853877
If Cover has 3D studio near Fauna's house, her chance of graduation is decreased

Are Grems ok only getting left overs and burnt parts all the time?
https://youtu.be/HOZbYCGpoz8

The thing that make me feel uneasy about fauna action is that she started uploading a few shorts on her channel before the announcement a few week in advance. As if she prepares to get sudden surge in subscribers.
Is there any ex-talent do this? as far as i know, they mostly just started tweeting

>>90854460
its a complete empty statement you absolute retard
it means literally nothing
when you disagree with management it means you don't want to do the job
you have no further information
the end

>>90854529
Stop believing everything you read on vt

>>90852500
Fauna is the only one who hasn’t done the recordings yet. They’ve been waiting for her since last month.

>>90854258
From what we know, the time frame of her moving house due to ghost issues is when she started interacting less with others, too busy with the move and she wasn't physically close to anyone after.
But she still had Umisea and Hoshimatic that 2nd year, till her health issues started. That was the real kicker.

>>90854573
>and by extension any girl not willing to graduate with her
Holy headcanon
I can't even tell if this is Faunaschizo or just one of the cover fanboys that have been mindbroken by Fauna leaving and admitting it's not in good terms

>>90854511
Anon, literally all EN holos complained about managers (and some of these stories are pretty bad) except Advent and Justice, and that's only because they are so new.

>>90854524
Calm down Sapcuck, she's not your friend

Last night we had Saplings agreeing that Fauna's most probably reason for leaving was that travelling to Japan every year eventually grew problematic for her
Today it has switched up to Saplings saying that she had a trash manager who made her leave
Make up your goddamn minds

>>90854369
>>90854370
lol

https://x.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1864157794393575605/

https://x.com/Rosemi_Lovelock/status/1864185369899544780

IT'S HAPPENING

>>90854603
Faunaschizo has been eternally mindbroken by the fact that this thread still talks about Fauna and will still talk about Fauna after

>>90854619
>we had Saplings agreeing
I did not agree to this kys

i member when /#/ this time of the day/night would be 1 or 2 posts a minute

>>90854556
>I don't know why people assume that Gura, for example, isn't a few months away from being out the door
Huh? But everybody expect her to be next and very soon. It's pretty much taken for granted now.

>>90854631
This whore is a fake Tekken fan

>>90854619
It's funny because their first argument actually made sense

>>90854577
>and burnt parts
grems gonna get cancer...

>>90854603
Yeah bro it's not like you retards weren't shitting down the throat of Fubuki and Bae and Miko and noel and kronii and irys and literally everyone who spoke about Fauna's graduation bro
What, no more bootlickers to throw around?

>>90854659
So it's just you?

>>90854300
Fauna's ours now. You can keep reporting this for dox but the proof she was DINO'd is out now. Total unicorn annihilation.
>>90853827

>>90854644
>and will still talk about Fauna after
Until she collabs with men

>>90854680
Why are you referring to yourself in the second person?

>Miko killed a man in Rino, just to watch him die.
>Pekora ate chicken warm.
>Biboo was looked at lewdly by 46 people on her way to the studio
>IRyS is actually super smart.
>Raora isn't really italian, she's a japanese girl who studied in italy
and most damning
>Gura isn't really a child.
Hololive will never be the same after these revelations.

saplings.......

>>90854680
>and
>and
>and
>and
>and

>>90854573
nah, that's all in your head or your lack of comprehension
the reason all the girls are getting questions about management is because of the 1-2 punch of chloe's announcement being followed by fauna's with the background of aqua's reason. the real fans are worried but aren't attacking management or the girls

>>90854731
Why are you shitting on holomem

>>90854314
>Basically, even though they have world class facilities at their disposal, they're still having issue filling the manpower to help facilitated the recording session.
Is it hard to hire 3D studio engineer?

remember numbers... I remember numbers

>>90854619
>saplings
You realize there's a faunaschizo, sisters, liggers, phasefags, dramatards larping and talking to each other right. It's always the same shit trying to shit on a holo through Fauna/saplings or shit on Hololive as a whole or shit on Fauna.

>>90854578
She was 100% looking to set up the funnel. I wouldn't even be surprised if the vagueness of the graduation stream was to probe the drama nest to make it even easier.

>>90854746
>IRyS is actually super smart.

>>90854764
Which is then followed by bootlicker accusations whenever they say anything other than "I'm graduating with fauna", which is all of them

>>90854451
It's not an assumption, NA advertisers and sponsors pay significantly more than Japanese ones.
Also, as you said, that's not factoring in Holo business expenses, art, concerts, music, all the stuff that they do pay from that remaining income.
~2.6 mil before taxes for a streamer Miko's size is still way less than minimum.
even with 5-6 employees making 100k$ a year.

>>90854785
Okay if you are an actual sapling, what do you believe? I'll take your word for it and disregard the rest as larping dramafags

>>90853954
>why did people deny it in the first place
Because the conclusion everyone kept coming to is that they were dating and broke up.
That kills too much other shitposting that the shitposters weren't willing to give up

>>90854578
>>90854797
What an actual stupid selfish cunt. I'm glad she's leaving Hololive and I hope she loses her fans.

>>90854769
Again, referring to yourself in the second person. I don’t know why you’re doing it, I think trying to assign a rational explanation for schizo behavior is an exercise in pointlessness.

remember when we actually used to like fauna? yeah, i remember

>>90854577
We don't know any better

>>90854573
That's a leap in logic worthy of the paralympics. You'd do great.

>someone is willing to leave the most successful vtubing group over a trivial matter of having to travel to Japan a few times a year
You can't seriously think this is believable, right?

>>90854776
They don't need to hire a 3d studio engineer, they need to hire entire shifts of them, and they pretty much have to train them from scratch because all the experienced ones are already working for Sony and movie studios and rarely want to take a step down to work for hololive

>>90854797
That is incredibly scummy. Reminds me of Aizen in a way. I can almost respect it

So in the end did kevin really deserve what happened to him?

>>90854845
I still like her. I just don't like saplings.

>>90854746
>IRyS is actually super smart
>Gura isn't really a child
Just because you put it in green text and snuck it in with the truth, doesn't mean anyone is going to buy this shit.

>>90854829
There's only one consistent reason and it was agreed before everything. Please man this is just going in circles

>>90854661
OK grandpa let's get you to bed

>>90854845
She betrayed us
She betrayed us all

>>90854871
Remind me again, what was the cause of Fauna's puddle arcs?

>>90854858
You say that like it didn't actually happen

>>90854923
You literally did not read the thread.

>>90854883
putting homo references in a unicorn gen was a retarded idea

>>90854883
I've been really tempted all day to make a bluesky account and lay it out for him, I'm still thinking about it.
I want to see what he'd say if just confronted full on with the dispassionate reality. Nobody ever seems to really engage with his little posts (because nobody is paying attention but us I guess)

>>90854829
You know everything those girls say is scripted, but unlike those liars, I trust Fauna's words when it comes to calling out shit management. She's genuine and unafraid to speak the truth.

>>90854883
>bsky
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>90854883
idk what this guy is thinking when adding homo reference for the most cgdct gen on hololive game

>>90854942
I wonder what else happened inside your head, sounds like an interesting place.

>>90854952
game about a unicorn gen

>>90854883
This guy is so blatantly doing "fan creations" wrong. You're supposed to make something out of love and because you wanted to/for fun, not to try to get personal gain.
Making Hololive fan games is an extremely autistic way to try to get personal gain. Just spend that time applying to jobs nigga, you don't even like Advent, you only watch Bettel

>>90854980
Yeah bro just ignore how every girl who had to do damage control for fauna wasn't accused of being a bootlicker

>>90854956
NTA but it's funny you say this because the other holos lay out more of themselves on stream than Fauna.

>>90855005
Can you show me a tweet that isn't from a throwaway or are you talking about all your own posts

>>90854644
>will still talk about Fauna after
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA get ready to learn liggerese buddy

>>90854956
lol found another braindead sapling

Just like that the catalogfags leave until they get bored again

>>90854956
can you post your membership?

Can I post cheebs now?

why are we suddenly dying

>>90854118
It seems like she did do some short trips this year to record some stuff, or at least 1, fwmc kind of confirmed it.
Anons were suspicious of a few times where she might have gone secretly

>>90855133
Do it

>>90852896
I'm just wildly swinging between depression and anger right now

>>90855133
I don't see anyone here who can stop you.

FauMint power!

>>90855005
>damage control for fauna
They're doing damage control for Cover and their 4 graduations in 4 months causing fans and shitposters alike to comment on the situation as a whole.

Reminder that the most hated holos in Japan are the clear management dogs running defense for Cover

>>90855147

>>90855156
Towa?

>mikoroom with flowglow
>botan new outfit
>holofes announcement stream
>all in the same slot
Can we get some fucking organization in here

>>90855187
NO FUCKING WAY

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA FAUNA IS FUCKING GONE AND BOOTLICKERS KEEP SHITTING ON HER ON HER WAY OUT

>>90855187
>sukikira
Fuck off retard

>>90855168
Yeah, because Fauna deliberately graduated in the first non amicable gradation in hololive history.
Even fucking Coco has a more graceful graduation than this. Fucking coco who got but fucked by both the risk adverse top brass and china at the same time

>>90855218
im saying no fucking way because you posted sukikira like a retard btw

>>90854504
uh oh

https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1864218083767779351
https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1864218083767779351
https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1864218083767779351
C105 let's go

>>90855235
what else is going on in your head?