/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I love fucking this bear!

This may be a long shot, but does anyone else here enjoy the good ol' rubix cube? When I'm not trooning out on discord, I like to play with it as it puts my autism to good use.

People here have been recommending new hobbies as an alternative to Beatani & and I really can't recommend the rubix cube enough!

>>9071265
I've never managed to solve one, I might be a retard.

>>9071265
>solved the same way every time
Hobby for actual autists.

i love this fucking bear

This bear loves fucking me!

>>9071357
A challenger appears!

>>9071357
More... MORE

>>9071373

>>9071465
>Glasses
Fuck off

>>9071506
Those are for cum protection not vision correction.

>>9071506
delet that

>>9071339
me too

Shill bear

>>9071339
>>9071704
this bear is the cutest!

https://www.twitch.tv/beatanichisato
live

Only the viewers who want to be special will use the twitch chat

Imagine being a youtube peasant

I totally forgot there's a stream today.

multistreaming is really dumb

Please don't do this, splitting the chat is a completely shitty thing to do

>>9071901
away with that crap

Twitch chat is covering YouTube chat.
She hates us...

>>9071971
Twitch chat is for namefags

>>9071940
>>9071961
>>9071964
>>9071967
>>9071971
>>9071988
>M-muh membership badge

>>9072011
muh pogfrog

>>9072011
>Muh name staying on screen for longer

>Less chat delay on Twitch
>Less stream delay on YT

>twitch 31 viewers
>youtube 28 viewers
The people have spoken

>>9072060
She doesn't use the chat in the stream screen to read the messages, your messages don't have lag

>>9072011
I wouldn't care if she picked twitch, but she should stream in one place rather than two

>>9072067
twitch viewers are subhumans not people back to wvt

>>9072011
she should choose one or the other
both at the same time is stupid

>>9072067
now add the susan'd numbers

Just don't show the Twitch chat on screen, let them groom each other

>>9072095
So YT is superior then
Anyway, even if she can see the messages it splits the people chatting in case they want to read each others messages.

>I have been considering switching the platform to Twitch

Twitch arc incoming. She already decided she just has to figure out how to sell it.

your strongest rrats, stat

Time for the greenocide

>>9072334
Her indie friends want her there

>>9072334
her Twitch vtuber buddies

>>9072334
she is switching to twitch because she never had the same streaming problem on twitch that she has on YT. trying to fix the problem on YT is mendokusai and it has happened since day 1 basically.

>>9072334
twitch chuubas have convinced her to do it

Remember, it's only a vocal minority that is against Twitch migration

>>9072392
>she never had the same streaming problem on twitch that she has on YT
She had the same problem on Twitch as she did on YouTube the last time she had a problem.

>>9072334
twitch has a much better indie vtuber community and streaming on youtube sucks

>>9072438
>vocal minority
This shit again

Watching on twitch just puts me off, if she switches I will move on.

>>9072439
This is true.

>>9072374
he said rrat anon, not reality

I've never been closer to cancelling.

Is it not possible to remove yourself from the user list on twitch? I hate it

susan please fix your shitty ingest servers cunt i dont want to have to move to twitch

I can never last happier than a day with this stupid bear, god why am i still here

Inner circle voted already for Twitch. No use in fighting it

>>9072537
And I still love her

>>9072537
every time i stop being mad at her she says something annoying again

I don't want to change the platform either, but why is this such a hard deal for all of you? You just need to get used to it if she dices to make the jump

>>9072500
cancel membership, use my free prime sub ion her instead

>>9072500
Yah I'm close too. I'm thinking of dropping Bea entirely, which means I'll finally be free of vtubers. Watching her just isn't enjoyable anymore.

>>9072516
Log out / incognito

I think we should move to bilibili

>>9072516
I'm going to go through the list every stream and private message everyone my dick picks, so you better stop watching now.

i hope the bear will at least filter the ugly looking global emotes like a reasonable streamer

I've heard people complain about twitch because they have potato internet, but there are quality selection options. Or does that not matter for some reason

Clearly it's a YouTube problem and not Bea's OBS reps

>>9072665
>but there are quality selection options
They only show up if the streamer is a Twitch partner or if it happens to win the roulette for that day.

>>9072665
you need to have a certain something (affiliate?) on twitch to have quality selection options available 24/7

>>9072665
twitch has less servers in 3rd world than youtube tabun

>>9072666
Then why does the same guru guru problem happen on Twitch?

>>9072715
That was sarcasm, I don't think YouTube is the actual problem. It's bear.

>>9072665
As an eu bro, it doesn't really matter qualitywise for me

zzz

>>9072715
Clearly you understand sarcasm

>>9072334
bea will switch to twitch, however due to her not having a fanbase outside of /vt/ and her fans not being fond of twitch, her views will stagnate or even drop. even with the occasional raid bringing in fresh eyes, this not be stable enough to replace her old fanbase. she will eventually come back to youtube, but the damage will already be done. with all goodwill sapped out, dads would be wary to comeback to her and her growth will still be hampered. what happens next it up in the air, but I think she will finally be dumped after 7 months of pumping.

it can't be normal, I really think she is trying to annoy me for real, I can't be happy for more than a while.

>>9072745
>>9072768
autism please undastand

>being more loyal to a website than your oshi
weak

>>9072772
fuck is you!!!!

>she's drinking an energy drink
>I drank one before the stream
WE ARE-

>>9072837
It wasn't funny the first time you said it

>>9072866
sorry I'm closer to her than you

>>9072812
>being more loyal to your new chuuba friends vs the dads that have been with you

Where do you fall? Obviously going to be biased given the location.

>>9072914
I'm still on youtube for now, but if it has connection issues I'll switch over without any hesitation

>>9072950
4

Almost twice as many viewers on twitch, youtube on suicide watch

>>9072950
Youtube/Twitch/Thread

>>9072950
both streams and the thread baby

>>9072950
Youtube/Twitch/Thread. Not enjoying this stream in the slightest.

>>9073008
cuter than usual bea pic

>>9072950
4

Twitch/Discord, maybe she just likes purple

>>9072950
4 and 3

How do you feel about beatani soon being raided by some virtual western twitch thots and her whole twitch chat being taken over by pogchamp spammers?

>>9073063
Her chat is already full of discord users so what difference does it make?

>>9073063
I've been cucked into oblivion already, I wouldn't still be here if I had any self respect

Oh no here it comes

>>9073063
I won't care since i ignore the onstream chat window

I go to take a piss and she's talking about dating a viewer what the fuck happened?

you guys don't really watch vtubers right?

>>9073232
She wants to pick one person from her audience and date them

>my boyfriend... uh... i-if I get a boyfriend

>>9073247
Only enough to make semi-convincing rrats

>>9073232
She's talking about not dating viewers

>>9073232
People apparently were tuning into the stream to watch Bea instead of to watch Yakuza. She had to call out those schizos.

>>9073280
I haven't seen n***a in the chat today...

>>9073063
The drama will be fun, and drama is what watching Beatani is all about

>>9073260
ESL please andastand

>>9073308
Thank you for your service

>if things get hairy

>>9073347
Even the drama was better before...

Normally I don't care about on-stream chat, but I can't help but notice the irony of Bea's own emotes not showing up but all the random Twitch trash running free.

>>9073451
I'm gonna spam more twitch emotes just to make you mad

>>9073451
restream doesn't capture YT chat very well

Greens are SEETHING

>>9073280
actually she was breaking the first barrier by entertaining the idea of a viewer boyfriend
take note for future reference

look, i fixed chat

>>9073635
every day closer to the end, I wonder when she will talk about her boyfriend and how much cock she sucks

I still can't tell if this was a bug or if modchama is taking the piss with cuckcagechama

Very retarded

>>9073635
After making discord jokes for literally months then suddenly having it pop out of nowhere makes me truly believe this. And don't forget her deleted JP dating streams either.

>>9073815
Hiroyuki (not THE Hiroyuki, a Hiroyuki) is her boyfriend. She gave him control of the cage.

>>9073815
Yeah with beatani everything starts as a joke before it's suddenly not a joke anymore. Same story when she first posted on reddit.

>>9073635
If there's a good thing coming out of this it's the oil balons getting the most butthurt about it.

>>9073815
She made the discord because of minecraft, but she added the non-minecraft channels because trolls shat up the threads for months complaining about twitter and spammed a discord server link in every thread.

>>9073815
>deleted JP dating streams
rrat?

>>9072697
affiliate, not partner, and affiliate is incredibly easy to get, even I have it and I'm a nobody

>>9072950
Twitch/Thread, as an indie viewer, it's always been like this for me

>>9074084
Wrong, I've seen affiliate streams with no quality options.

How can a boyfriend joke rile you up so muc- oh.. wait.. this is not new..

>>9074059
She added the non-minecraft channels because the users didn't stop talking about offtopic stuff and she didn't want to bother to deal with them

I started off watching vtubers on Twitch but moved to YouTube and haven't logged in on Twitch in months. I watched Bea as a guest.

>>9074173
>users didn't stop talking about offtopic stuff
Add that to the list of the trolls' transgressions.

>>9073815
I can't believe those streams are nearly never brought up anymore. She literally voice chatted with her male JP viewers before coming here. Are you all so new?

>>9074081
I think he means the slay the spire ones where she acted like every stream was a date with her character or something like that. I dunno, I never saw them because they were long gone by the time I showed up.

>>9074257
She got in a lover's quarrel with one of her viewers, it was too embarrassing so she deleted them.

>>9074248
yes I do, but I prefer to pretend they didn't exist, things would have been the same for us if we had told her it was a bad idea

>>9074318
They weren't deleted. She even played some of them at the 6 month stream.

>>9073791
just a stupid mistake due to trying to speed through fixing the model

>>9074248
They didn't dig before she privated them, but don't open this can of worms now.

>>9074081
It's literally documented in the wiki dude.

>>9074382
it's funny so it worked out

>>9056990
Now I know why.

>>9074643
Sometimes it comes a little late

>>9074680
Her boyfriend didn't

>>9074412
From the wiki
"Slay the Spire Dating Arc
In Beatani's very first stream she goes on a date with Defect by making him jealous by spending time with Ironclad and Silent. [61] After this stream Beatani had six more Slay the Spire date streams primarily with Defect."

And this has been in the wiki since day one of the wikis existence. And she didn't dispel it or anything in the wiki review stream. They were privated a few days after her English debut though but I can confirm they existed.

She will move to twitch just you piss you guys off

>>9074714
There are a few old JP Tweets that mention it, not sure if they were deleted or not.

I worry for Bea's liver

>>9074747
Well I don't have any issue with that, the website really doesn't matter much, only the content does.

>>9074747
Honestly you're right.

>>9074769
She has never denied it. She even confirmed it during the wiki stream. She just doesn't like talking about those days.

>>9074747
it will turn out badly but what does it matter

>>9074714
>And this has been in the wiki since day one of the wikis existence
Wrong. I added it the day before the wiki review stream.
>They were privated a few days after her English debut though but I can confirm they existed.
Also wrong. They were all privated before she made the thread. She did still have a slay the spire playlist of 7 privated videos on her channel. The VOD for the first stream can be found on NND.

That's a lot of food. Just how fat is this bear?

>>9074943
very

>>9074943
0 kg

>>9074964

>>9074931
I strongly remember seeing one very early on so I just assumed. May have been on NND then.

>>9074769
I don't know how to search her japanese tweets for that. But found this https://mobile.twitter.com/badilla0/status/1399241756361691139
Can anyone find the japanese tweets that mention this arc?

There's that beautiful singing voice kek

Can't watch the stream due to no data left and I'm outside the house. What is happening?

>>9075907
Just a regular yakuza0 stream

>>9075544
https://twitter.com/beatanichisato/status/1363535839708418053

Why you guys enable attention whoring so much? It's filtering to be honest

>>9076232
What do you mean

>>9076232
So i have targets to make fun of them

>>9076232
No one was namedropped this whole stream.

>>9076232
The glasses thing? I don't like it either

>>9075947
Deepl:
Thanks to all of you, my date with my real boyfriend, Defect, was a great success .
But he's still a little hesitant about it. ......
I'm going to climb one more step up the female ladder to get his heart burning.
I'm going to try one more time to meet the guy I matched with on tinder the other day. ......
#slaythespire, which has turned into a girl's game.

dads? Please explain this. What THE fuck?!

>>9076397
She was treating Slayza like a dating game

>>9076397
>>9076427
she talked about it in the 6 month anniversary stream

>>9076397
The same shtick as her boyfriend Takuya on LINE, except she was trying to make Defect jealous that time and using Tinder instead of LINE.

>>9076232
nobody cares what you think

megane squared

The JSL rrat is retarded because she's obviously living in Japan or she wouldn't have been able to pick people's letters up from the mailbox.
>b-but maybe she moved there after she learned Japanese!!
Nobody would move to Japan willingly.

I stopped following Bea a while ago, why does she have so few viewers? Did you all abandon her or something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn3woDxIAz8

>>9076754
It's a mail forwarding service that can send to anywhere in the world.

>>9076707

Beatani is pretty cute

>>9076805
Yakuza has been her lowest view streams for a while, lower with each new one. This one is multistreaming, splitting some viewers.

>>9076805
Susan/check Twitch numbers/Yakuza is a known debuff

>>9076805
>Not a new IP

>>9076833
If the mail was forwarded she wouldn't have been able to receive it in such a small timeframe.

>>9076895
Dads were lying when they said they liked quality bait

>>9076895
Are you retarded?

megane spam is really annoying at this point

>>9076976
Everyone got more annoying after they started using Discord.

>>9076902
Mori lives in Japan, is she Japanese?

>>9077013
true

So many Yakuza streams and she still doesn't use heat actions

>>9077013
t. Discord user

>>9076805
multistream, it's split on both platforms today

>>9076397
defect is one of the playable characters in slayza. she really liked him

>>9077085
she doesn't know what those are

>>9076895
I literally just came to the thread for the first time in months to ask that question after seeing her stream pop up on my youtube homepage. Take your meds.

>>9077085
A bear in heat is too powerful

>>9077293
>Not a new IP

>>9077237
So to be Bea's husband, I must throw away my humanity and become a robot?

>>9077353
BeaBea! I'm rejecting my humanity!

Did the tattoo change?

my ratt the bye stream is her saying she will leave youtube

>>9077701
Maybe

>>9077701
Believeable

>>9077701
I believe it

Beatani doesn't care, so there's nothing that can be done. My fork in the road will be the completion of the magazine, and at that time, I hope I'll stay, but as a traditionally nomadic user, I know I'd be gone in a few months anyways, from one reason or another.

/yah/ feels a lot more civil lately, what happened?

I don't understand why she wants to stop using youtube, the streaming problem seems to be in her side

>>9077757
they got to jerk off after 2 weeks

>>9077757
Dads are realizing it's over. There's nothing left to worry about.

>>9077757
we lost the desire to fight, only despair remains

If she leaves YouTube for Twitch i'll be forced to

>>9077849
anon? anon???

>>9077757
Dads are unironically becoming stronger. The trolls are also not trying very hard or being very original.

>>9077849
Yes

>>9077757
What's your definition of lately, 3 seconds?

>>9077757
>>9066301
>>9068650

>>9077701
thank god, I thought she would quit streaming

I think she has a problem with drinking

>>9078856
she has a problem with everything

>>9078856
On the contrary she seems pretty good at it

>>9078856
You are just now noticing?

Has Bea never played pool before?

>>9079236
We have fucked in a pool if that's what you are asking

>>9079236
Handled a few ojisan's sticks and balls in a bar tabun

I'm no pool expert but this physically hurts to watch

I'm learning a little Japanese watching a shitposting Japanese bear, this is awesome

>>9076754
I don't consider her being JSL a rrat, it's closer to being a fact. But I think there's a small chance that she actually lives in Japan. At least there's not that much evidence against it at the moment. Although, since it was proven that she's not Japanese, the burden of proof regarding living there should be on her.

There are many possible explanations for the P.O. box. My guess is that it's just another way for her to make dads think she's a Japanese who lives in Japan. She's a weeb, so she must have some friends in Japan. One of them helps her check the contents of the box. It's also why she wasn't afraid of the P.O. box doxxing.
This is only speculation for now, but I think her Japanese friend who helps her with the P.O. box might actually be Chihiro. As many dads have speculated, Chihiro is her Japanese boyfriend. Before her university time, Beatani spent some time in Japan, which is when they met. While in Japan, Beatani wanted to pursue a career path that required her to leave Japan and get into a university overseas. However, she was in too much love with Chihiro to leave. Chihiro wanted what was best for Beatani, so he gave her an ultimatum, "Go to the university, or I'm breaking up with you". Beatani didn't want to break up, so she left to the university. This is how Chihiro "trapped her into the XP hills". Beatani also most likely uses the P.O. box to mail stuff to Chihiro. The reason she started streaming is because she wanted to go back to Japan but couldn't (because of Corona), so streaming is a way for Chihiro to watch her.

>>9079633

>>9079633
You're so far off the mark it's funny. Nice fiction though.

>>9079633
heavy rrat until you realize that there is hard evidence that she lives in Tokyo

>>9079901
What is it?

>>9079953
I'm rubbing her pussy and telling her to get off stream in her Tokyo apartment right now. You can tell from her pool performance.

>>9079953
two actually now I remember it; google maps yab, and weather yab. obliviously I'm not gonna post about what they are in case jannies are lurking, but both yab's are in the archives.

>>9079766
The Chihiro part might be slightly off, but it's the most likely explanation we have at the moment. I'm still waiting for her to slip up and reveal her real country. But she's very careful. There was one time when she "accidentally" "doxxed" herself. She opened Google Maps on stream, which pinpointed her location. Usually, a streamer doing this would panic and delete the VOD, but what did Beatani do? She seemed mildly surprised and said showing the location was fine. And it was fine to her, of course, as the displayed location was the location of the VPN server she was using. She planned the whole spectacle to convince the dads of her being Japanese.
>>9080007
Funny

I have hard evidence that beatani doesn't play bar games tabun

wtf
was that her boyfriend?

>drunk dad throwing chisels at the wall
Bea...

Man this is hitting a bit too close to home.

another depressing beadad story...

IS CHIHIRO REAL OR NOT?!?!?!?!?!

>>9081710
Not depressing, based.

I used to play Mahjong on Yahoo games too. I could have been playing with Bea's dad

Bea has surpassed his rallying skills of his father. Like father like son I guess.

Secretary or Bartender

>>9081579
I'm more amazed that he managed to throw them in a way that they'd put a hole in the wall.
They aren't really made for throwing.

Well, this is it. Her vtubing career is over. She'll spend the rest of her days playing Yahoo Games.

>>9082099
I want to meet this man
When Beatani presents me to her parents.

>>9082210
It would be a cool niche. Chill flash game and zatsudan vtuber.

>>9082210
I'm pretty sure there's been (western) indies that just did Flashpoint deep dives in the past so it could be fun for her to do a Yahoo Games deep dive some day.

>>9082264
If I remember, there was this one guy who wanted to be just that, and made a thread to see if anyone was interested. don't know if he ever did become a vtuber though

>>9081734
take your meds dad. please. your family misses you...

RATE THE STREAM

>>9082618
2/6. I'm really, really worried.

>ends stream
>doesn't end stream
Bea, your weed pulling reps...

>>9082618
Very fun times/10

>>9082618
comfy bear/10

https://twitter.com/beatanichisato/status/1371115886187143168

>>9082618
3/4 pretty good.

>>9082618
Pretty comfy / 10

>>9082618
comfy / 10
>>9082711
She wanted to hang out longer...

>>9082618
it was fun but I am worried/10

>>9082618
Yakuza streams are underrated really, it feels the most like the Bea I like, and I don't usually enjoy video game streams

>>9082618
SSR corner bear get/10

>>9082775
you made me check you fuck
now I'm sad

>>9082618
comfy

>>9082839
The derails are the best part of the Yakuza streams. I love hearing her talk about Japanese stuff.

I LOVE THIS BEAR MORE THAN EVER!!!

When there is one or two days without hearing Beatani's voice I start to think that loving her as much as I do is a bit cringe and schizo but then I hear her voice again and I FUCKING LOVE THIS BEAR

>>9086684
Bea is a bit of a genius when it comes to character design. Silhouette is of the utmost importance and hers is very simple yet very distinct. The color palette is also very well thought out.

>https://twitter.com/beatanichisato/status/1433290567560019973
>collaborate with this male
>male
Okay, that's it. I am dropping her.

>>9092551
You will never be Hiroyuki Nishimura.You will never find the love of your life Beatani on XP hill, who looks adorable and is a cutiepie Japanese Polar bear. You will never be The richest funniest comedian ever to set foot in japan with the highest superchats of France. You will never have the money that would allow you to become the owner of 4chan. You'll always be a loser.

That's it. Post the picture of naked Hiroyuki.

>>9086684
Me too dude

>>9070907
higher

So what are rrats on multistreaming? I'm assuming numberbear's yt analytics is showing low new viewer counts and mostly returners there. But on the other hand twitch doesn't have an equivalent analytic I think (never used twitch so idk). So she'll be in the dar whather or not anything is better.
In the medium term isn't this going to do some fuckiness with subscliber numbers? We'll have some ytonlys and twitchonlys. I bet numbear is gonna do 10k as the sum of twitch plus yt, because she needs to get 3dlive and retirement according to keikaku scheduled.

>>9096843
She likely just had enough of susan delaying her streams

>>9096843
>We'll have some ytonlys and twitchonlys.
Sure, but: yt only + shared + twitchonly > ytonly

>>9096843
Twitch's discoverability is far better, and she has more ways to bring in new subs (raid, collabs with twitch only streamers like the seep...)
But if she makes the full switch then she will lose great tools, like the scheduling function of youtube, the member streams or the community posts

For those that complain that the replyjin swarm around like flies in her pre-stream chat, will switching to Twitch resolve that? I don't think I've seen free or pre-stream chat in Twitch before.

>>9098531
twitch has prechat just go to the chatting section now

>>9098140
You can collab with Twitch only streamers without being on Twitch yourself, did you know that?

>>9098975
Sure, but most of the fans of that twitch only streamer will only bother with you if you use it as your main platform, they won't migrate to youtube just to follow you

>>9098531
>replyjin
Hi Bea

>>9099361
this is the bear >>9096843

>>9099484
I've been called bear paws just like this quite a few times, and I'm not even trying. My become beatani reps are paying off. I'll be replacing her soon.

>>9099848
>I'll be replacing her soon.
Do another countdown stream once you transformed into Bea thanks

any data autist know the viewer count have a viewer count comparison or average after the stream?
did she use the correct tags for the game she played (vtuber,english,yakuza..etc.)?

>>9100489
for twitch i mean for the tahs

>>9100489
think only yakuza 0 was visible
though she was the most watched yakuza 0 stream

I really hope she doesn't go to Twitch.

>>9100489
comparison or average of what?

>>9100669
Why? Try to change her mind

>>9100689
comparison of average viewer number across both twitch and youtube i mean generally speaking

>>9100748
Too laggy to watch anything live. I can watch a stream in 1080p fine on youtube, but I'd be stuck in buffering hell forever on Twitch. I've never had Twitch work properly on any PC, browser, or internet connection.

>>9100748
As a viewer, I much prefer the YouTube app and website and YouTube is where I do all my online video watching. I don't watch Twitch streamers anymore and I have stopped watching at least 3 indies after they went Twitch partner and moved there full time. I still watch Koopa clips on YouTube but I haven't watched a stream in months.

>>9100840
Well it's the opposite for me as youtube constantly put me behind a few minutes and lag often so I guess to each their own

>>9100942
nta but at least in youtube you can increase the playback speed and easily get on sync again

>>9100975
This, you can even see how much of a buffer you have.

>>9100881
Then you don't really care about the content and streamers, and more a youtube fan than a streamer fan. If I'm invested in a streamer I will watch them regardless of the site, it's just a website. No wonder internet became so concentrated in just a few sites if people are that strongly formatted.

>>9101000
True, Internet used to be countless smaller websites back then, now it's like 99% of the traffic is normalfags using Youtube, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Reddit. Feels pretty sad to see.

The fact that she wants to stream on both twitch and youtube annoys me. I hate seeing the numbers split. Just pick on or the other ffs

>>9101000
How is that any different from
>Sure, but most of the fans of that twitch only streamer will only bother with you if you use it as your main platform, they won't migrate to youtube just to follow you
I don't owe these streamers my views. If they're going to make me go through extra effort to watch them on a site I tried and came to dislike, well, dropped. I watched all my vtubers through Twitch at first so it's not like I didn't give it a chance.

>>9101000
Yeah, brand loyalty over streamer sounds so retarded to me, I couldn't care less where I'm watching the content creators I like.

>>9101087
I didn't write that post, and it's not true, I mostly watch on Twitch but still bother with youtube for Beatani because I like her content.
However people there indeed have a higher chance of discovering Beatani if she streams there.

>>9101087
>How is that any different from
>Sure, but most of the fans of that twitch only streamer will only bother with you if you use it as your main platform, they won't migrate to youtube just to follow you
The difference is that you are already a fan of Bea, it's more likely that people like you will make the sacrifice and go to twitch than new potential twitch only fans coming to youtube

>>9101080
Yeah as much as I prefer Twitch I'd rather she just picks one.

I just prefer youtube because of things like live rewind and instant-upload VODs
that said if she moves to twitch I'm not gonna have an aneurysm, I'll deal with it. As long as the VODs still make their way to YT sooner rather than later and it doesn't become a backlog where she's months behind or something like that.

>>9101080
My rrat is that she is only doing the simulcast to ease the dads on the change, she is going to make the jump pretty soon

>>9101092
It's just nitpicking and bad faith from people who never watched streams before hololive and got brainwashed by months of reading narratives here about "twitch culture" and how raids are so bad and stuff, when in reality there is no difference in culture for small streamers and indeed better discoverability and better tools, the onlhy real arguments are better VOD (but easy as fuck to automatically upload to Youtube for archives) and scheduling. All the rest is better for indies on Twitch and you don't lose anything, it's literally just a different link to click, people are so fucking lazy.

>>9101223
It's pretty obvious. She never telegraphs a move unless she's already made a decision.

I do hope if she does move to twitch she starts making actual schedules. I didn't mind having YT stream placeholders as a makeshift schedule but the schedule system on twitch is pretty much worthless.

>>9101318
This is why she is making a website

>>9101343
Yamete kudasai...

>>9101232
Yeah, I watch vtubers on both sites, and while their are positives and negatives, indies have it much better on Twitch. I understand having preferences, and I still highly doubt Bea will make the switch anyway, but people are blinded by their biais.

Twitch downsides :
- VODs deleted after a while if you don't highlight them (however easy to use youtube as an archive automatically)
- Very new streamers don't have quality option for a short time, you get it once affiliated wich takes like a week or so
- No good scheduling option


For twitch, for what it does better :
- Discoverability : actual vtuber tag, very accurate recommendations of other vtubers based on the ones you watch. Built-in easy clip system to share a good moment to other people.
- Networking : built-in tools like raids, they're really not as bad as people here think, most people use those well with similar number vtubers and it's always a nice moment, it's honestly a very good tool. Also your emotes are usable in other people chat which surprisingly get people to check a channel when they have very good emotes.
- Sub (membership) gifting : can simply be as thanks, but also work to get people to check that vtuber they got a sub to
- Far better chat : it's not even close, the tools available with twitch chat both for moderation and users as well as bots integration are just really good
- Redeems : hit or miss, but if you use them well it can be pretty fun, it rewards people watching a lot with fun perks basically, up to the stream to decide what
- no actual DMCA strikes, unlike Youtube you don't actually risk losing your channel for using copyrighted stuff, your VOD will just have that part muted


That's about it, if you have a big pre-existing fanbase and network like corpos Youtube works fine, however if you're an indie Twitch is just the better choice with minor drawbacks. There is a reason many end up making the move after a while.
Also for people who believe "Twitch culture" is a thing for small streamers you read too much narratives in this board, just like youtube every small streamer is its own culture, twitch or youtube doesn't matter for that. It's fine to like a site more but that narrative is just retarded.
Oh and also numbers, if you like them, twitch numbers are accurate unlike youtube.

>>9101343
Still curious as to what the hell this is gonna be about

>>9101092
it’s not brand loyalty retard it’s fucking loading problems
i can’t watch twitch at all usually because TWITCH DOESNT LOAD
that’s why DUALSTREAMING IS BETTER

>>9101440
Prevailing rrat is the wolf game

>>9101440
I thought it would be for the "bear paw" game but that seems overkill

>>9101440
Making a website just for the bear paws game seems a little overkill when you can use any random anonymous real chat room site

>>9101425
do you have this as a copy pasta every time someone asks what’s better to have a paragraph sayin TWITCH DOES EVERYTHING BETTER TIWTCH TWITCH TWITCH

>>9101425
honestly I just hope she doesn't enable redeems because those are cancer, I hate when I'm watching a comfy stream and then suddenly everything has to grind to a halt because the streamer has a "Do [x]" or "Talk about [y]" redeem. I guess stuff like modifying emotes or highlighting messages is fine but beyond that it's kind of annoying.
Raids are also kind of annoying but it really depends more on the raider and the raidee unlike redeems which are just inherently distracting.

>>9101515
No, it's just listing both benefits

>>9101515
Complete with a Bahroo picture

I just don't want to lose our current comfy chat
But struggling seems useless

>>9101518
High cost redeem of switching to her old model or Kaniko or Nyatani for 15min

>>9101518
I doubt she'll do redeems since she's a bit of a control freak. If she were a very small streamer starting out maybe she would have suffered through it but I doubt it now. On the other hand there are people who would guaranteed spend points to controll her glasses and it could be automated pretty easily.

Don't forget, destruction and reconstruction

>>9101606
She won't get rid of me that easily

>>9101606
Unreconstructed till the end

>>9101425
1) Twitch design is shit, It's overly cluttered and also so gameified it fucking hurts, every time I login I get a bunch of shit flashing about game loot and crap for games I don't even play. And as much as YT re-designs yanked customization away from users and bridged the desktop and mobile interfaces, it's still not that awful.
2) Twitch engineering and infrastructure is absolute garbage. The player performance is shit, whether the stream performs well or not heavily depends on which CDN and sever you're being routed through and they gatekeep basic features such as encoding options behind partner-status (and even then you're not guaranteed encoding options) which basically punishes your viewers by making them buffer or having you to deliver a lower bitrate/framerate/resolution (which in turns makes growing your channel harder). You'd think they'd do better by having access to and leveraging Amazon's infrastructure but nope.
3) Twitch prohibiting you from simulcasting if you're a partner is a shitty move made to lock you and your viewers on their platform even if the experience may be inferior.
4) Archiving is garbage, if I have to go to YT to watch Vods I might as well just stay on Youtube.
5) YT recommends content related to what you're interested in, meanwhile twitch recommends garbage (i.e. my entire Twitch sub list was Japs/Gook fighting game-players and fighting game tournaments and Twitch kept recommending me flavor-of-the-month cringy western FPS/MOBA streamers; then because I watched one EN Vtuber clip it kept me recommending Vtubers and I can't tell this shitty website that I'm not interested in them or stop recommending that channel).
6) Twitch Ad debacle and monetization practices are absolute garbage, they're already taking a cut out of bits, subscriptions, turbo, prime, and forced pre-roll ads, but on top of that they're also forcing massive ad breaks on everybody. Compare Turbo with YT Premium and the value of the later is huge and puts twitch's practices in perspective.
7) Twitch e-begging is overwhelming. Twitch streams are filled up with monetization metrics,donation goals, tip jars, overlays for every donation, TTS for donations, list of latest donors, rankings of biggest donors and and 4 or five monetization schemes + links to shit like patreon. The average YT Vtuber will acknowledge and thank superchats or memberships (and, in the case of someone who does something other than gaming, like artists, a patreon link), but that's it - on YT you feel a member of the audience regardless, meanwhile Twitch makes you feel like you don't matter as an audience if you're not shelling cash.
8) As a consequence of the above, the average streamer on Twitch is expected to be the audience's dancing monkey and stop everything to celebrate a shitty $1 donation and stop talking while the retarded TTS reads it - breaking the flow of the broadcast. YT streamers seem to have better handle of being an entertainer and not the customers' plaything.
9) As another a consequence of the above it feels like I'm being double robbed by the greediest and most shameless bastards in town.
10) Twitch chat is cancerous even in small streams because the culture still has everyone spamming the retarted global emotes and such. Big YT streams also have garbage chat but small ones are useable and comfy because people's first reaction is to write something instead of using some cringy retards face as a reaction.
11) Twitch staff is cancerous, arbitrary and inconsistent, YT still sucks but it fucks all equally and you know it's likely robots doing it rather than some harpy power-tripping because she got an unpaid internship and a purple sweatshirt or some beta male trying to get nudes.
12) The average Twitch streamer is cancerous.
13) A cursory look at Twitch Vtubers show that on average they're e-thots trying to cash in on weebs. While the average YT Vtubers are autistic weebs themselves - also, they're honest that they're playing a character.
14) Most people who watch Vtubers are in it for Japanese anime girls, and Japs mostly stream on YT. Meanwhile most Vtubers on Twitch feel like I'm watching low quality dubbed anime or some cartoon trying to cash in on anime aesthetics, while you may have an exception every now and then that's good, the majority are fucking awkward and cringy.
15) If you have interests in anything but gaming your options are extremely limited both as a viewer and as a streamer. Music? Karaoke streams are not Kosher on twitch. Drawing/Art? Post some speed-drawings/paintings on youtube or some tutorial videos and go live, you'll have an audience 3x bigger than on Twitch - there's a reason some big art streamers such as ergojosh and ReiQ are building their YT live streams despite their sizeable audiente on Twitch.
Overall, YT is fucked up but not as much as Twitch is.

I'm tired of this bullshit, it's so obvious that she wants to get rid of us, after supporting all her bullshit, an indie comes along and convinces her to leave us, I just want it to end

I'm a little worried about all these changes, you could argue that they are not that big if you try to analyze them individually, but it does feel that we are in a completely different place compared to a couple of months ago
I don't mind making the effort of migrating to twitch if that makes Bea happy, but I'd prefer if things could stay the same just for a little while longer

>>9101826
It really does. She's got a long and elaborate plan to get filled with Hiroyuki seed and there's going to be a lot of pain on the road there.

I think it's foolish of her to abandon her established fan base but bea doesn't give a shit

>>9101933
Her paypigs would calmly walk into the slaughterhouse if she asked them to. When do they get butchered?

>>9101933
She is not abandoning them, most of the usual viewers will make the change
The dead subs will stay in youtube, but those don't give her any money or banter

>>9101826
it’s just dual streaming for now atleast

twitch has no lag, youtube has over 40 seconds of lag
simple as

>>9101684
1>The stream pages aren't cluttered, it's only the case if you go to twitch homepage and why would you do that
2>That's subjective, some people have better perf on youtube on twitch. "and even then you're not guaranteed encoding options" that's false, partners are guarnateed that. And in practice all affiliates have the option too, even non affiliate in slow hours.
3>Yes, tho barely anyone wants to simulcast regardless, it's not worth the trouble
4>Yes VODs are not as good. Having them on youtube isn't a big deal however.
5>In term of streams, Twitch recommendations are just far more accurate, ofc you need to watch a few streams before it get accurate.
6>"subscriptions, turbo, prime" are all the same thing basicaly, no need to list it 3 time. Twitch and Youtube both take cuts. The only annoying thing is preroll ads, tho you don't get any of those when you're a subscriber.
7>"e-begging" is not tied to Youtube or Twitch but to the streamer, but find that on both platforms. Same with links to other sites. Nothing to do with using one site or the other.
8>Same as above, that's irrelevant to the website, only the streamer matters for this, countless don't do any of what you say.
9>Same as above.
10>that's just wrong, most small-medium vtuber streamers don't have that at all, and all big chats are cancerous regardless of the site, it's about the streamer community not about the website, people won't suddendly start spamming shit because they're on Twitch
11>Both staffs are arbitrary, and for both small streamers get away with shit because they don't matter
12>Your opinion, and bea would still be bea, so that doesn't matter anyway
13>Same point as above, completely biaised and dishonest, streamers are the same, you find "cancer" in both sites and good ones in both.
14>Most Jap vtubers are on youtube because Japs only knew NND and Youtube so they made the transition there. And no, most people who watch vtubers aren't in for "Japanese Anime girls", many people watch english speaking anime girls, who are for the vast majority on Twitch. Once again, that's just your biais and sounds like some guy who think vtubers = Hololie
15>Twitch isn't mostly gaming for quite a while now, many karaoke focused vtubers are there, like ThinkerBella, Nina and others. Thinkerbella does karaoke for like 6h everyday with no issue, so that one is just straight up wrong. Most Drawing/art streamers and vtubers are on twitch, even Japanese ones, and they get a bigger audience on twitch.

As expected most points are either subjective feeling and heavy biais you basically just find on this board

>>9102021
Twitch performs terribly for me. It really depends on server lottery

What is the prediction for the next few months? will we have a hypocrite bea acting for the sake of numbers? will it just be an arbitrary change of platform to make collabs with her new friends that she cares more about than any of us?

>>9102021
Yesterday I had 1 minute of lag in twitch

>>9101933
It's not abandoning tho? People aren't stuck on a website like it's north korea.

>>9102074
>>9102085
its really simple, 3rd worlder lives and opinions do not and never will matter
bea will move to the better site

>>9102068
I've seen more karaoke and art vtubers on Twitch than youtube honestly, not sure what that guy was about

Pump and dump, pump and dump, pump and dump, pump and dump, pump and dump, pump and dump, pump and dump, pump and dump, pump and dump
pump and dump

>>9102082
>will it just be an arbitrary change of platform to make collabs with her new friends that she cares more about than any of us?
I would be ok with this if it makes her happy

>>9101978
>comparing changing websites and most people not really caring to some jonestown-esque event
unironically take your meds

>>9102183
that makes bastards like ****** and all the trash on /wvt/ who talk shit about us happier

>>9102257
Honestly, I don't really care
She changed her community focus a long time ago, let her do whatever the hell she wants and stop pretending like she is obliged to give us attention every minute of her life

4.98k now, 5k likely before cat cafe.

>>9102546
>subs inclining during off hours

I MIGHT BE JUST A NUMBER TO THIS NUMBEAR!!! BUT I CAN'T HELP SERIOUSLY FALLING IN LOBVE WITH BEATANI!!!!1!!1!1!!!!!

>>9102638
Reddit shilling or...?

>>9102666
For sure, she started inclining when she did the shilling

>>9101766
Ok bea so end it

Anyone else trying to make their own Bea tulpa?

>>9102977
I debated it but having a voice in your head constantly say "Kill yourself retard!" could never end well.

>>9102977
lately i have been dreaming about the thread, discord and twitter, it's always bad news, i don't know why it's happening

Is Pippa reading this thread in particular?
https://twitter.com/pipkinpippa/status/1433396985155960838

>>9103016
>You finally manage to make your own Bea tulpa
>You made her with the best aspects of Bea in mind: her kindness, her playful mesugaki behavior, her funny drunk rants and her unconditional love for her fans
>Something went wrong
>She ignores you and spends all the day using her phone and talking with people more interesting than you
>The only way to get her attention is giving her money, but she quickly forgets about you after a few seconds
>When she thinks you are sleeping she whispers on your ear "kill yourself retard"

>>9103155
I don't give a flying fuck, fuck off rabbit

>>9103155
No? She's just commenting on how some nigger twitch streamers are taking today off in protest because there are some "racists" on the site.

>>9103274
Ah lol, the timing just happens to fit in that case.

>>9103155
She's here and likes Bea so maybe. Probably it's due to several members of Phase wanting to switch. I don't know for sure but I think a few are in the process. Pippa still streams on Twitch as notPippa so it might be extra annoying for her.

Imagine still watching Bea after she backtracked things she said she would never do, like start a discord.
Now there's talk about twitch, and it won't be long until she's collabing with guys. She has pretty much just used dads and this place as a means to kickstart her vtubing career, all the while lying to her fans with claims she "doesnt care about numbers". And when eventually both Beatani and dads could not hack the naturally toxic and chaotic nature of this board any longer, they all migrate to a comfy little discord together.
What's worse than all of this is that the same dads who were here from the beginning will support literally anything she will do, regardless of whether its contrary to their own personal opinions.
Beatani really opened my eyes to the amount of weak-minded normalfaggot simps who must visit this place.

>>9103320
Jap ESLs are a drug.

>>9103195
>ywn smell the Asahi Super Dry and korokke on her breath as she whispers "Kill yourself retard." into your ear
Why are we here, only to suffer?

>>9103155
no. some performative activist twitch streamers took a one day break of streaming yesterday as way to pretend to care about minorities being harassed on the platform as if one day is enough to make amazon do anything about it

Bea could be streaming off facebook or instagram and I will still watch because I am not a brand loyalist.

>>9103386
Ah yes, Jeff "if it's brown flush it down" Bezos

>>9103606
>Bea could be streaming off facebook or instagram
I'll take a bite out of the Twitch shit sandwich but that's where I draw the line

>>9103606
i don't give a shit about where she stream what pisses me off is her fucking attitude and being a fucking liar, also the fact that after so much she doesn't value us at all pisses me off

>>9103798
It's not that she doesn't value her viewers, but at the end of the day the channel is her responsibility and she will be the one most affected by its success or failure. She has to look out for her interests first, same as anyone else. I'd appreciate more transparency but if she shares her thoughts while in the planning stage and changes her mind in the process she gets called a liar. What I've learned so far is the streaming part is the easy part, all the meta and work that goes around it is the hard part.

Matane dads

>>9104095
>It's not that she doesn't value her viewers
I'm sure she appreciates us, but she doesn't give a fuck about trying to show it