/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

yea can I have uhhh
2 McChickens, 3 large fries, 2 diet cokes AND nuggies

>>90786230
I ain't reading all of that shit.

>>90786230

>hololive has their own sisters

it's not inflammatory, but all the manchildren on this board cannot cope with the fact someone may have had a bad experience with management in hololive

>source for anyone asking
/r/VirtualYoutubers

>>90786230
didn't read lol

>>90786329
oh. that makes sense

>>90786329
Kek. Checks out. Those goody two shoes only act when their beloved company are being attacked. I guess they are addicted with those updoots.

>>90786230
Why can't redditards summarize?

>>90786230
>normies
>Reddit screenshot
I understand that /#/ is filled with Redditors so I feel the need to remind you that normal people do not post about vtubers on Reddit

Rebbitard look at THIS

>>90786230
>assuming redditards will post their honest opinion if they won't get le heckin internet pointerinos

>>90786274
Sir, you have to specify the amount. Is this the 6, 9 or 20 pack?

>>90786412
Literally every single post's point was copied from a shitposting raid earlier in /hlgg/, just check the archives and you can find much more succint versions of each shitpost since these faggots just took what already existed and made it wordier.

>>90786230
people who want ""clarification"" just want to take sides. just enjoy the streams while you have them.

>>90786230
>Fauna’s favorite social app turning on her
AIEEEEEEEE FAUNA LOOK AWAY!!!

>>90786230
These are sisters running damage control. They already failed in taking hololive down as a black company. Their new plan is to attack fauna to make hololive fans look bad.

>>90786454
EWW, stop posting this, please, stop posting things like this. I would ruin my day, don't post, PLEASE!

>>90786230
Heh

>>90786274
unironically fpbp

>>90786685
DOOKIBIRD 2.0 KEK

>>90786230
The public concensus is that Cover should fix their shit. There, I've said it.

>>90786230
>public consensus
the only people that were trying to cause an uproar were those that were trying to frame fauna's graduation like the second coming of doki and benefit off of it. Except the circumstance is not even close and not even the usual youtube grifters don't have much material to work with.

>>90786493
>9
No 9 piece in Murrica. Only 4, 6, 10, 20, and 40

>>90786817
So you're saying the posters in OP is right and Fauna is a liar stirring the pot for drama vues?

>>90786230
>reddit
Go back, faggot.

>>90786865
Yes

Scorched earth? She simply said she had a disagreement with management, that's it. It's the sudden mass graduations that are making people upset with cover more than anything Fauna did.

it's such a dumb situation
the main problem is this retarded narrative that there was some huge management change in 2024 caused by post-IPO suits that is making everyone quit. when that's just not true and all the quits are usually pent up resentment from years or just being pain tired of it

Management IS bad and i think any holo deserves to shit on them but he way they did it with that stupid fucking phrasing created pointless doomposting. and honestly i blame aqua for that moreso than fauna, fauna's statement in a vacuum wouldn't have immediately make people think of some recent bad force corrupting holo, it's only because it rode on the back of aqua's shit.

management is systemically bad but this creates problems that are completely individual and unique to each member, there's no universal problem that that you can exorcise. but therein lies the problem because we as fans can only say "well STOP SUCKING MANAGEMENT" which is such a generic demand as to be meaningless.
not only that, now just killing that narrative people were spouting makes you look like a shill or bootlicker.

>>90786817
There is clearly a rift. Between bootlickers and resistance to the direction cover is heading. And the victor writes history.

>>90786230
brownoids cannot fathom an employee disagreeing with their manager.

notFauna and Doki are following eachother now

>>90787002
It is actually a great situation.
Graduation? Soften the blow with "affiliate" give those retards false hope.
Fauna ripped that veil. And we are at the cusp of another pivot in the timeline.

>>90786230
it's so funny to me when /vt/ and reddit perfectly aligns. says a lot, really

>>90786230
man, schizophrenia is so entertaining

>>90786230
>>90786286
These just read like a slightly more faggy version of Nyfco after NijiEN terminations/graduations. Interesting how similar the two fanbases are I guess.

>>90787115
Well she's following elira so there's that.

>>90787151
They both drink water too.

>>90787002
Didn't cover break Japanese law and not pay contractors.

>>90786230
So basically all the trannies raiding /vt/ and shitting on Fauna are redditors?

>>90787214
And she's also following the locked Pomu account so these are obviously old follows. Doesn't mean anything.

>>90787168
/r/VirtualYoutubers unironically is mostly populated by ex-Nijisanji fans who now like to portray themselves as the "impartial neutral observers" to VTubing (mostly flip flopping between different ways to maximize drama around hololive and taking whatever side they feel is best suited to that)

>>90786230
>Public consensus is turning on Fauna apparently
>plebbit
nice try holofag lmao. stop throating those boots.

>>90787255
They witheld payment until the stinky riggers did a proper work.

>>90787288
Oooobviously...

>>90786230
>I had disagreement with management
>REEEEEE THIS MEANS THEY'RE BLACK COMPANY
>but she didn't say they were bad, none of the girls are saying they're bad
>uh.. UHHHH FAUNA BAD FOR GOING SCORCHED EARTH
way to go schizos, running around like headless chicken and now going full circle to blame because nothing fits your head canon.

>>90787286
holofans are redditors

>>90787358
That's not r/hololive though

>And then she said "I am not leaving because I don't want to be here"
>pfft! HAHAHAHA!

>>90786230
I'm noooooticing a lot of Jew styled d&c tactics at play recently!

>>90787239
see? that's exactly what i mean. this place practically is reddit

>>90787358
Yawn

she made her decision and I'll respect it, we won't know what happened for sure, I'm just gald that it's not the investors putting pressure on the girls(at least this time around)
there doesn't need to be some huge reason for someone to stop working but gotta feed the drama/hate machine and retards need a good and a bad side because otherwise they are lost

>>90787341
Careful with that, /vt/ doesn't do good with shades of grey (even less so during SEA hours)

>>90786835
YOU HAVE 40 PACKS?!

>>90787539
>d&c tactics
what's that

>>90787341
Wow I can't believe Fauna literally called hololive the worst vtuber corp on earth and that it's the next niji. I also heard she hates dogs can you believe that?

>>90787562
dease and cecist

>>90786493
uhhh yeah
that one

>>90787547
>>90786503
Fence sitters should be sliced in the middle

>>90786454
what the

>>90787555
He's lying It's 50

>words words words
You don't have to sell me on hating holofags. They should all be dragged by their necks across asphalt.

>>90787598
>cecist
>ceci

>>90786230
>Public consensus is turning on Fauna
>corpofags are a cult
more news at elevel

Saku schizo is actually the greatest /xhlgg/ ally. Ah Sasuga.

>One of the most beloved chuubas in the vtubing space is now quickly becoming public enemy no. 2
Holobronies are scary...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/1h2kf5z/an_announcement_to_our_fans_regarding_the/?rdt=34003
nice try Cover
check r/Hololive instead
even redditors have started calling them black company lmao

>>90787548
/r/hololive has 1.3million members

>>90786230
This is literally teenage girl behaviour

>>90787586
Fauna and Ame were on /vt/ manufacturing anti-management rrats and I saw one of the rrats and the rrat looked at me

>>90786454
They have.
Not so different, you and them.

>>90787650
watch more marvel movies, that's more your speed
dumb dramafag

>>90787755
It's okay. We'll just have to support each other and grow stronger so Holofans can't bully the space as much anymore.

>>90787755
They really are going full on PROTECT THE COMPANY just like nijinigs did
I really didn't expect it, I'm kind of shocked.

This just proves that it was manufactured drama by cover.

>>90786230
Wild what corporations can get away with when they shut the fuck up and don't act like Chinamen trying to shake you down for cigarette money.

>>90786230
>retard fans read this and put pressure on other talents since there is no other avenue to pressure on cover
>talents have to make damage control statements about the corp in general and that they specifically are not leaving
>retard fans assume this means they are demonizing fauna
we are here
>talents have to make followup statements clarifying they aren't shifting blame to fauna

great system overall. funny that the most honest graduation is the most misunderstood, no wonder we're never told shit

>>90787905
It really is starting to feel like Hololive needs a counterweight if their fans are gonna be THIS toxic towards a girl getting shit on by management already
I look forward to the Dooby-Lemon alliance

>>90787789
Because Artia and then Coco picked up as official platforms and for a long time talents would go there and comment.
Once that stopped the numbers of the reddit collapsed.
Source;
https://subredditstats.com/r/Hololive.. (Posts per day, Comments per day)

>>90787974
>talents have to make followup statements clarifying they aren't shifting blame to fauna
IRyS actually did that specifically as the very first thing she said at the start of her stream about the matter
Can't believe she ended up being the smart one for a change

>>90787755
The way they reacted to Ame leaving already woke me out of that stupor Anon. More are going to leave in 2025, not just because hurrr cover bad, but it's been 4 years, it's normal for people to move on.

>>90787678
how come no chuubas have done the 50 nug challenge yet

>>90786230
>Public consensus is turning on Fauna apparently.
It's not.
People don't actually give a shit. It's not turning against Cover, either.
This isn't some crazy secret war. Go outside.

>>90787899
Fence sitters are worse than parasites. Even parasites have a mouth of their own.

>>90787919
No, they are going "protect my oshi" because saplings decided it was a bright idea to demand the other girls to agree with Fauna, even if they didn't know what Fauna's disagreement is.

>>90788064
gonna cry ligger bitch?

only brown people are against fauna

>>90787555
Yes, but sold as 2 20pack boxes.
>>90787678
no. it's 40
https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/chicken-mcnuggets-40-piece.html

>>90788136
No, but I am a healthy weight.

>>90786230
>12 updoots
surebuddy major public outrage

>>90788115
>Saplings
uh huh
Definitely not the hordes of unwashed SEAs on twitter and grays in youtube chat riding the wave

>>90788137
But most Saplings are from NA

>>90786230
>multiple talents constantly shit on management to the point it's seen as normal
>4 of them had enough and quit in quick succession
>fauna straight up gtfos and chooses to graduate
>holodrones will call this normal and proceed to shit on the talents again instead

It's been fun, but Cover's reputation is hanging by a thread. If another talent chooses to quit I'm afraid it's gonna turn into a big issue. It's up to Cover to turn this around, and fix this before someone opens their mouth.

>>90786275
spbp

>>90788172
What is the difference?

>>90786230
hmmmmm.. i think this has happened before.. oh right..
YOU FUCKIN DIPSHITS, THIS IS THE SAME SCENARIO AS AQUA..
>Aqua doomposts a week before, saying stuff like "bigger enemies"
>Announced graduation
>JP normies turned to Cover "Why you let this happen? what's going on inside? aaaarrgh!"
>after some days, JP Normies turned to Aqua "Why the fuck you're the only one in disagreement, other's are fine! why cant you elaborate more?? aaaarrrgh!"
>Aqua graduates
>Reincarnates
Both sides moved-on from their lives..

>>90787919
>I really didn't expect it
I did to a certain extent, but not to the point where they're using extremely similar arguments as sisters did about Selen, and eventually any of them that graduated and even vaguely suggested the company wasn't great for them. I think a lot of the anons attacking Fauna are the same ones attacking Selen and other ex-Nijis which is why their arguments (and way of arguing) seems so similar (basically they don't support any company or chuuba, they're just in it for the drama) - but on places like twitter and reddit you can see how old the accounts are and see what they've previously said; quite a few of them seem to be actual fans of Holo.

>>90788138
It used to be 50, thanks orange man

Are you seriously looking at whats being posted on reddit?
That shit is predictable.
Talent graduates, everyone blames cover, white knights and cover shills come out and defend cover, people now get sick of all the cover hate and start pointing it back on talent, YOU ARE HERE, people point out blaming the talent is victim blaming, people start complaining about how shit the sub has become, talent graduates, everything dies down and goes away because at the end of the day, the sub is a cesspit of cover dick sucking and the talent is no longer related to hololive.

>>90786230
Sounds familiar. Yeah, karma's a bitch ain't it?

>>90788206
>If another talent chooses to quit
Oh. The year hasn't ended yet. December will be quite a month.

>>90788064
>it's normal for people to move on
Eh, I don't think so. I think that's the cope. I think that's the graduates being unnecessarily graceful in their exit, because Hololive the brand is so benevolent nobody could possibly want to leave.

>>90786286
It's not the girls' problem, it's management's. Good to know there's at least one none retard there.

>>90788299
I doubt it'll happen in December
But the amount of redditors that flip around and shit on Gura when she leaves is gonna be biblical
Not one of them will even talk about her original song being in Cover jail for over two years now

>>90788043
>Heads up! This data is likely out of date or inaccurate now that Reddit has decided to kill the open ecosystem that existed around Reddit.
Hmm, let's check /r/Gaming's stats: comments per day: 2, Posts per day 9

let's not pretend that hololive fanbase doesn't have its share of mentally ill sisters too

Fauna : You turned Mumei against me!

Kroniii : You have done that yourself.

Fauna : You will not take her from me!

Kroniii : Your anger and lust for power have already done that. You have allowed this dark lord to twist your mind, until now, until now you've become the very thing you swore to destroy.

Fauna : Don't lecture me, Ouro Kronii ! I see through the lies of the Holos. I do not fear the indie side as you do. I have brought peace, freedom, justice, and security to my new Empire!

Kronii : Your new Empire?

Fauna : Don't make me kill you.

Kronii : Fauna, my allegiance is to the Hololive, to idolhood!

Fauna : If you're not with me, then you're my enemy.

Kronii : [realizing that Fauna is consumed by bullshit and there's no reasoning with her anymore] Only a Indie deals in absolutes.

[draws her lightsaber]

Kronii : I will do what I must.

Fauna: You will try.

[draws her lightsaber and confronts Kronii]

>>90788352
>Bloated a fuckton of "management"
>can't manage to release a single song
What an irony

>>90788379
You can see the cut off in 2023.

>>90788396
nice fanfiction, femanon

>>90788206
they're probably threatening Gura to not quit this month as we speak

>>90788396
can confirm, i was the lightsaber

>>90786230
too mcuh texxto. is holo bad? or fauna bad?

It’s really funny to see people blame Fauna for the fact that holobronies are autists who can’t stop fanning the drama flames and sperging out at other holos

>>90788352
Gura's affiliate graduation is going to happen in July with announcement in early-mid June to maximize profit.
Gawr Gura's last* birthday on the 20th, then Gawr Gura's last* concert in July.
*None of these will actually be the last bc the shark is too merchandisable.

>>90788453
Live footage of the torture session
https://youtu.be/J5hqNTUmtek

>posting reddit antis from okhb and /r/VirtualYoutubers

https://imgur.com/a/bvtm-raided-holoplus-one-of-raiders-is-mod-subreddit-r-virtualyoutubers-VImMvb5
>BVTM raided HoloPlus and One of the Raiders is a Mod for the Subreddit r/virtualyoutubers

>>90786230
Shilling works. Public opinion was against cover for one day, then the army of bots got turned on. And astroturfing a niche hobby is an easy task. Certainly cheaper than taking a look at the management.

Kronii essentially came out and said "literally nothing happened, management is OK, some holos' expectations just changed". Fauna and Kronii are friends (possibly more) so I don't think she wants to slander her, but the subtext essentially reads "Fauna tried coasting too hard/demanded too much and got filtered by mgmt who was tired of her shit". It can still obviously have to do with Cover going public and management getting more grubby, but I don't think they were in the wrong.

>>90786230
Tldr, these people are retarded and can't tell the difference between management and talent. Nobody needed to defend the honour of management but corporate slaves made it their job to do so.

hot take : I never really cared for her one way or another, then again I don't have the autonomous sensory meridian response so
lukewarm take : I always thought of saplings as mentally deranged, first semi-positively ("haha mentally ill codependents, kinda cute in a retarded way") and then very negatively (cucklings)
>>90787621
sir either pick a number or I'll choose it for you
>>90787694
so true sis!
>>90787974
>most honest
>reason given : "Disagreement with management"
ok
>>90788137
most cucklings ARE brown, anon.

>>90788766
>Fauna and Kronii are friends
What a strange thing to say

>>90788766
>Fauna and Kronii are friends

It will be fucking hilarious if at the end of the day it's some little issue like "lack of vegan options in merch" or something.
Oddly, that might make redditors side with her again.

>>90786230
Of course it's a pagpag

>>90786971
"I'm not leaving because I don't want to be here" might imply she's getting pushed out of the group by management, she also denied any obvious explanation like "recording 3D concerts and songs is just too much for me" which people know was her issue for a while but other members already confirmed it's all optional so the fuck is her problem, what can be her problem? It's such a strange situation and she prepared this statement in advance too.

>>90788879
Yeah, ha ha, "optional."
Not like we don't already know what "optional" in Japanese corpo environment means.

>>90786230
>Redditors are retarded
Who fucking cares.
The girls don't have any animosity towards Fauna (with the possible exception of Kronii) and Fauna has no animosity towards the girls. That's all that matters.

>>90788879
Okay, but, your entire theory falls apart when she said, "I like doing idol stuff."

>>90788839
>>90788850
if you believe the KroFau falling out rrat then you are socially illiterate and a brainlet, I'm sorry

>>90786230
>Public consensus is turning on Fauna
no. It's only the mentally disabled corpocucks who simp for the company instead of the talents.

>reddit
Another faggot looking for karma I see, rope.

>>90789128
Which is actually no one. This entire thing has been astroturfing since the first day.

>>90786230
>pagpag
>corpofag
name more iconic duo

>>90786685
And unlike those, these are recent.

>>90789201
And they'll support the corporation for only as long as people are displeased with them. Soon as people are comfortable with Cover again, they'll turn to hating them.

>>90789201
you and schizophrenia

>>90789288
>took his post personally
Huh.

>>90789114
Why didn't she say her name once?

>>90786230
>public consensus
>two people
This is as bad as the people who think everyone will turn on Hololive now.

>>90789114
I'm sorry you're autistic and can't pick up on very obvious social cues, life must be quite hard and confusing for you.

>>90786230
>reddit
>bright mode
>Pagpag
truly the trinity of deplorableness

>>90789099
What theory? It's what everyone assumed seeing that frame, she didn't go to JP this year and explained she rather just stream, she had no projects that we know of, she was never a "creative" type or an organizer Fauna went trough her career on easy mode during bare minimum at most wtf even can be her problem? Other than demanding more money perhaps.

>>90789338
No need to, everyone knew she was addressing Fauna's graduation so it was implicit from context.

>>90789201
Americans and sucking corpo cock

>>90789424
>gave the fans what they really wanted
>gets shoved out of the corp
All you need to know about the corp, really.

>>90786230
>>90786329
honestly the first place i look whenever something bad happens to cover. as unrepresentative of the whole vtubing community /vt/ is, those guys are 10x as bad. absolutely nothing but cover bootlicking. worse than anything you ever find /here/.
also i never understood why the fuck do they needed to take over the general vtubing sub anyway when the hololive sub is bigger??

>>90786230
Reminder, she's not part of the cult company anymore, now she's an enemy. Holofag mentality.

Yeah I also got the impression from her stream that she wanted to take down the company with her departure.

>>90787377
r/virtualyoutubers is more pro-hololive than the hololive sub. the latter sometimes tolerates criticism of cover.

jesus christ look at these schizos

>>90789630
>spoiler
Yes you do. Information control.

>>90789653
based holoGODS

>>90789706
Ah okay, so the actual Hololive fans can be critical when needed, and r/virtualyoutubers are just schizos.
Good thing to know.

I just woke up from a 6 year long coma, can't believe there's a vtuber board now, I thought this would be too niche even for /jp/ eventually. So where's the Kizuna Ai general? And who the hell is Hololive?

>>90789653
This is the difference between nijisisters and holofags.
Nijisis will just accept what the corpo told them. No questions asked. Did she graduate? She's now an enemy.
While holofags will question everything. Whose fault it is? Why is she defending the corpo? Why is she remaining silent on this matter? Until they reach their truth.

>>90789616
she stopped doing ASMR thing she was pretty much hired for

>>90789837
kizuna ai graduated to become my wife a few years ago. we're expecting our second child some time in march.

>>90789937
she fakked you?

>>90789954
d-don't say it like that, it's embarrassing...

>>90789911
Yeah, no external factors or corporate decisions there, I'm sure.

>>90789937
I wish I had never woken up now...

>>90786230
It's not inflammatory, but it's clearly vague posting. Vague posting does nothing but cause more problems then it solves. Saying management is shit and not saying why leads to disaster.

>>90789820
i think it'd be most accurate to describe them as holo sisters, but yeah.

>>90786230
Do they really expect her to clarity? This is pretty common behaviour for a disgruntled employee,, she quited aka no longer give af, its like this ledditors have never worked before.

>bloodiest year since Cover axed an entire branch
>'All this drama is Fauna's fault!'
Can't wait to see who else drones throw under the bus in 2025.

>>90790039
Leads to disaster for who? The manager or system who's responsible? The share holders? Who gives a shit. Corporations don't need defence squads and people who are leaving their job because they are unhappy are under no obligation to pretend they aren't. If they fire the person responsible it would actually help whoever comes after her.

>>90790312
Her soon to be former coworkers.

>>90790312
perfectly logical and grounded statement
not really applicable to idolshit though, stick around if you wanna see some funny stuff

>>90788879
Every single holo so far has basically said that Fauna's issues with management were her own and aren't shared by them. Though I also get the feeling that they can't really relate to her at all and nobody so far has said they understand or support her decision. Mori and Shiori ouright sounded like they had no idea what Fauna's problem with Cover was.

But this may just be because they actually don't know shit, or want to keep it intentionally vague or whatever.

>>90788823
Most people into female ASMRtubers (Even though Fauna dropped it) usually are mentally deranged.

>>90790403
It's not their responsibility to do or say anything. That's managements'. Leaving it to the girls is just another reason they suck.

Fauna literally did nothing wrong. She said she has to quit a job she likes because management and her couldn't come to an agreement. She also thankfully told rrats who push shit like her and Ame hate singing and dancing to get fucked.

>>90786230

>>90789901
You mixed that up. Holoshitters literally start hating anyone who left the company the moment it happens.

>>90786454
I've forgotten all about Fauna now, thank you anon

>>90787286
>trannies raiding /vt
>raiding
Got some bad news for you. They've been running /vt/ for a while now.

>>90790500
It's not rocket science that asmr thing is the whole "disagreement with management".
Green woman only wants to do asmr but cover being youtube's bitch after almost deleting all their channels before can't allow it. So woman leaves and immediately starts doing asmr in her own channel.

>>90786230
unironically kill yourself

>>90789837
Well, there's a lot to explain. Here, take this "Ogey". It was originally the face of a vtuber named Usada Pekora (she's a pretty big deal today) but was manipulated by foreigners into a twisted parody. Posted with the phrase "ogey rrat", you can defend yourself and the board from malicious narratives. I'm out of time. Seek the generals, uncover more powerful Ogey faces, reveal the disturbing truth of Kizuna Ai's disappearance. Now go!

>>90790639
Should have done what Noel did instead.

>people doxxing
>posting reddit screencaps
This board sure has fallen huh?

>>90786230
Unless a streamer explicitly states "go attack and harass this group of individuals" I'm not holding them accountable for the behavior of online retards. Streamers shouldn't even need to tell these losers not to do this shit in the first place. Why the fuck does a streamer need to babysit their fanbase? Does she need to tell them to wipe their ass after they shit too? Fuck off

>>90789271
Doesn't matter if it's recent she still followed them

>>90790312
It's a disaster for her, her coworkers and for her fans. She gave her audience a cause, but not a reason.
For the past couple days all of her co-workers are on damage control, and what has it done? People are now calling them company suck-ups - even members who have long standing relationship problems with management. Fucking Kiara spent all last year in a series of wars with middle management, and she's getting called a shill because she said management wasn't forcing anyone to do anything.
For fans, now they are questioning her reasoning. Instead of leaving on a good note, she soured the air and everyone is pissed and looking for a boogeyman because of her vagueness in her reason for leaving. Suddenly dipshits are spreading "it's cause she doesn't want be an idol, she just wants to stream! IDOL CULTURE BAD" as a truth when that is categorically false
Finally it hurts her because people are slowly coming to realize that what she said was unproductive and has essentially left behind a mess for other members behind. The fans of those members are not going to remember her fondly.

>>90790403
If they just ignored it and said the usual shit about how they will miss their coworker and wish them all the best then nobody would link anything to them because the initial comment had nothing to do with them. Them running damage control for the company is putting a target on their own heads.

>>90790594
Yeah, holoshitters hate the talent the moment they graduate
Sisters hate the organ slightly before they graduate

>https://www.thenomadicvegan.com/vegan-in-japan/

fun read. gives me that same high as caving disaster articles on wikipedia

>>90790755
Fauna didn't say she was forced to do or not do anything. Faggots like you just made up whatever and started spreading hysteria. Get fucked.

>>90786329
of course

>>90790752
Retard

>>90786230
>public consensus
>two faggots on reddit

>>90790755
>People are now calling them company suck-ups - even members who have long standing relationship problems with management.
those said members with long standing problems all suddenly coming out with the same PR toned speech and identical tweets is a big giveaway that cover is asking them to do it.

>>90790755
The mess was caused by people damage controlling who weren't the target and have no business doing so. It is not a Vtubers job to respond to temporary shocks in stock prices. If you don't want the audience to see you like a corporate shill then don't act like one. Fauna, her fans and her coworkers will be fine and they would have been even more fine if corporate defence forces didn't assemble and put their bodies in the line of fire.

This is going to keep happening as people quit and they need to learn very quickly that talent should not take sides and should be discouraged from publicly defending the corporation

>>90790639
She dropped it because she hated the tourists it brought along.

>>90790968
proof next thread?

>>90790732
>implying this shit hasn't been happening since the boards inception
>implying /vt/ was ever good after the first day of the board existing

>>90788879
She doesn't want to travel to Japan 4 times a year for 2 months at a time when if could all be done more efficiently and with less wasted time. Japs are not about efficiency in the slightest.

>>90790968
Right? Its really fucking suspicious…

>>90786329
Ho the place i god permabanned for saying that hogward legacy boycot was dumb, not surprising it's a bunch of faggot and retard and corpobotlicker.

>>90790664
I will find her... I will SAVE her.

>>90790735
You'd be surprised how many young people that watch vtubers also watch drama infested face streamers.

>>90789820
r/virtualyoutubers probably does have the largest population of sisters of any kind and has driven out lots of VTubers fans.
Imo the subreddit being disfunctional for discussion is what led /vt/ to be filled with lots of people who aren't that savvy with 4chan.

>>90790755
the "forcrd idol push" narrative predates fauna and is entirely aqua's fault
honestly that bitch is the cause for all these conspiracies because she didn't want to give the real reasons for leaving, and pekora contributed with her "hololive has changed" bullshit
but as usual JP's are let off the hook for free

>>90790909
Maybe if you weren't such a fucking retarded tourist, you'd have seen how people were trying to draw the line between Aqua, Ame, Chloe and Fauna and the general conclusion was management was forcing them to do things they didn't want to do. That was the popular rrat after she announced it, you 3 chromosome short fucking product of incest.

>>90791236
So you made up whatever. Thanks.

>>90791005
>It is not a Vtubers job to respond to temporary shocks in stock prices.
apparently, it is now. Kronii will come out as trans if BR's DEI shit promises another golden yatch to Yagoo

>>90791236
Chloe straight up said she was pushed to do things bad for her health. Thanks for playing.

>>90790968
They've defo been asked to say *something*, either by management or by other members recommending it as a "good idea to do" to try and tone down tempers and assuage worries.
Whether it was dictated to them, including what to say, dunno.
But some like say IRyS who is a fucking retard wouldn't think to reassure her viewers that she's not being overworked and that everything she takes upon herself is voluntary albeit inadvisable at times.

I'm thinking management and more of a discord roundrobin amongst the girls themselves which is just as likely.

>>90790818
Both bunch should be lined up and forced to watch their oshis getting mass violated by indiefags.

>>90786230
Redditors have had their own general for a while now, ever heard of /#/? Or the other way around, not sure. It's kind of like which came first, chicken or the egg.

>>90791096
it's gotten much much worse, jannies used to get people for doxing all the time, then when dokistuff happened it just ended.

>>90786274
i have never seen a thin person drink diet coke

i can't believe at the ending of it all, it was just another 'return to office' resignation. they truly are a tech company now.

>>90790755
Who the fuck asked any of them to do damage control on behalf of Fauna? Why do they feel the need to do damage control in the first place when all the onus to do that was on only Fauna and Management in then first place? They chose to stick their nose into Fauna and Management's business of their own accord. No targets were placed on their backs. All they had to say was "ah yeah Fauna is leaving i wish her all the best blah blah blah". But no, they feel the need to muddy the waters even further by defending the same Management that's been fucking with multiple members for years at this point.

Tldr: vtubers need to learn to shut the fuck up. Not everything needs their input. The retard trio of Vox Ike and Elira learned that the hard way but I guess learning from others' mistakes isn't how Hololive vtubers roll

>>90791302
Yeah, it's too weird, but I'm guessing it's more Cover told them NOT to say something, and they know more about Fauna's situation than they're allowed to say. NO ONE would think a bunch of talents all coming out with a corporate memo reading would think it doesn't look like a Nijification.
I'm betting the problem is the opposite. They're BANNED from saying anything, so they're just reiterating policies like drones.

>>90791379
It was the management that forced them to. You know, black company things.

>>90791353
The jannies have been anti-idol and (on some levels) anti-Fauna for a while. They can't ban SOME dox and leave hers up, so here we are.
It's obvious BS, but here we are.

>>90791419
She's graduating, dude. It's about to be the only account she's on.

>>90791302
>But some like say IRyS who is a fucking retard wouldn't think to reassure her viewers
In the same vein, Kronii saying “this isn’t a pr response and im not forced to say this” is really fucking weird because her fans wouldn’t even think that as shes had so many issues with management.

>>90791474
So what? RMs still weren't allowed before, even during graduations. It's clear mods and jannies have just ditched, and so are their reasons.

>>90791494
good old Barbra Streisand shenanigans

>>90791513
it all changed after doki. twitter/reddit went fully masked off and vt followed.

>>90791513
So what, you want her to vanish into the ether and have nobody follow her once she leaves? For what purpose?

Im just sad for the saplings who just wanna watch talk about their oshi on general and see a tonne of bait threads calling her a no-talent, leeching, grifting whore.

I will feel incredibly bad for them. Good luck saplings, this is just the start of the smearing. It'll be so much worse once she re-debuts.

>>90791494
I believe she's telling the truth, it's just a very awkward situation such that anything they say will sound sus regardless.

>>90791597
>>90791598
The rule is still there. The only thing that changed is shitposting increased because no enforcement.

>>90786230
holodrones are fucking deranged if they think Fauna did anything wrong.

>>90791394
What's even MORE weird is JP doing it. The reaction was company-wide, so it's clearly a company decision.

>>90791418
>It was the management that forced them to
Then;
>I guess learning from others' mistakes isn't how Hololive managers roll

>>90791653
So Gura is, once again, making the right call. Sasuga

>>90791379
Thousands of stupid fans pounding them with questions. Duh.

They don't have the willpower to not answer and just gave the same copypaste response.

>>90786230
>Public consensus is turning on Fauna apparently
According to shillcucks like you that were hired a full day after the anouncement and the shareholders were in full panicmode, anyways.
Buy an ad.

>>90791379
>Who the fuck asked any of them to do damage control on behalf of Fauna? Why do they feel the need to do damage control in the first place when all the onus to do that was on only Fauna and Management in then first place?
The girls' individual damage control has nothing to do with fauna. They don't even mention her and only refer to their own situation. All of them are stating variations along the lines of
>I am not being forced to do shit I don't want to do by management, I'm not being overworked
etc.
Because the shit that was spreading on socialmedia like wildfire in English and Japanese was that
>Cover is a black company that overworks its talents; that's why they're all leaving

So the girls that have said shit are saying things to reassure their own viewers that they're happy. Like I said Fauna's not even mentioned in this but what they said is a reaction to the situation.

>>90791818
And according to anyone with a brain who watches streams

>>90791379
They got fucking bombarded with questions about how they where doing, if they had issues with management, and if they where going to leave on their first stream afterwards.
Answering question for viewers is not fucking damage control.

>>90791664
I'll take that as a yes then. You're as bad as the shitstirrers at this point.

>>90786286
>PR statements should be made by management, not the talents
>HOW DARE YOU MANAGEMENT IS PERFECT
>I MUST DOWNVOOOOOT

>>90791799
Pretty much.
Carry on as normalz whatever that normal is, and your actions
>I'm still here streaming as usual for you losers, aren't I? If I didn't like it I'd have left
would've spoken for itself.

>>90791890
Now THIS is shitposting.

>>90791881
>Answering question for viewers is not fucking damage control.
I agree. But making a stream about how management did nothing wrong 2 days before 2 talents quit fucking is.

>>90791928
And who did that?

>>90786230
Kill yourself, retard. No one cares what Nijiniggers and Phasecucks have to say. Go back.

>>90786230
>public consensus
>12 upvotes

>>90791826
People being overworked wasn't a major talking point for english speaking viewers, it wasn't cited by either fauna or ame. What makes it suspicious is english speaking talent is in lockstep damage control with jp talent for an issue in the Japanese fanbase.

>>90791649
You think console warriors, Holo antis, a few burned Holo fans and people who want to stir shit will stop after the fact? You can think the majority of Holofans attack talent afterward but that isn't the case from everywhere I have been and seen and the only one who does get "attacked" is Rushia. Buying into shitposters narratives is not healthy.

>>90791379
>Fauna and Management's business
>vtubers need to learn to shut the fuck up
Agreed Fauna shouldve just shut up and dealt with her problems with management privately instead of giving vague statements that would affect everyone negatively.

>>90786286
>fauna: expresses her reason for leaving
>fans: overreact as always
>other girls need to calm down fans
>clearly this is fauna's fault somehow

>>90792000
>People being overworked wasn't a major talking point for english speaking viewers
It absolutely was after Chloe announced her graduation retard-san, stop trying to pretend like the great language barrier still exists and these streams aren't translated the day after by clip niggas.

>>90792095
>Fauna has no right to tell her fans why she is leaving
lol

how long till you just admit holofans are just dramaqueens?

>>90792095
t.mane-san

>>90792146
Then she should CLARIFY what her problem is instead of keeping it vague because it was affecting her coworkers.

>>90791928
>I agree. But making a stream about how management did nothing wrong 2 days before 2 talents quit fucking is.
who?

>>90792210
>Then she should CLARIFY
You've never had a job beyond laboring, have you?

>>90792095
That's a bitch east asian way of dealing with conflict. If someone is fucking up a system you should use your power to draw a target on their head and say fuck you even if it's with your last move, that way they cannot escape accountability for their failures and they won't be able to fuck up another streamers working environment.

>>90786230
well vagueposting never turns up well, no matter what were the intentions

>>90792109
it becomes even more unhinged, when these people (on both sides) don't admit they believed a wrong rrat, and then try to rationalize it by "they changed", "they are hypocrites", etc. anything, except admitting you were dumb/wrong.

>>90792234
So she chose to keep it vague knowing it will affect the other girls or even worse she didn't know it would affect the girls?

>>90786230
>>90786286
If Fauna didn't say anything about management, management would get the blame because multiple talents are leaving in a short time, but because she said anything about management she gets the hate? People just want a scapegoat.

>>90792238
>they won't be able to fuck up another streamers working environment.
Yeah, how can they fuck up what you already fucked up for them by making vague as fuck statements.

>>90792212
Suisei did an interview, pretty sure it was not a stream but radio

>>90786230
>holosisters are redditors
what a surprise

>>90792210
That's on management. She most assuredly said all she was allowed to say as anything more would've broken nda or some shit.

just let the lady quit her job in peace god damn

>>90792298
I'll take that as a no, brownoid.

>>90791928
Oh, and one talent stranded without work (still) because they can't handle some simple ass paperwork. Like, that alone is a glaring spotlight on management being shit.

>>90792271
i don't really read rrats so i don't know what you're talking about

>>90791236
Fauna's whole statement was that she enjoyed what she was doing and still wants to continue, but it's management. Solely on management.
> bbbut my rrat says
Retard

>>90786230
>>90786286
>12 fucking upvotes
Post something substantial, retard.

>>90792309
Oh that. That was before Chloe graduated? Preemptive.

>>90786230
r/virtualyoutubers is full of the exact same subhumans as /#/
don't forget mahdeen was a moderator there

since when "management" it's something people are eager to defend? Even over the talents themselves

>>90792238
>east asian way of dealing with conflict
don't teach us how to deal with our problem you fucking anglojeet, you don't see me judging you for letting your country get overrun by brown turdworlders

>>90792359
We were having a meaningful conversation but if you really need to bow out I wont keep you. Have a nice day.

>>90792141
Most people on this site didn't even know Chloe cited overwork as a reason for quitting, this is ontop of nobody in the English speaking sphere giving a shit about Chloe. They became aware of Chloe feeling overworked because every other streamer started talking about how they weren't over worked, don't worry, everything is fine people are mad but stop being mad. It's Barbra Streisand in full effect.

>>90792379
The part where they basically told Ina "lol oops" about all the money she spent is what pissed me off. Ina must really like Hololive to not quit after that. I would.

>>90792410
It isn't. It's typical leddit behaviour. They're incapable of not taking authoritative cock in their mouths, whether it's the state's or a corporation's.

>>90786274
how many calories is that?

>>90792410
Its funny because it’s been the normie opinion that management is invasive for a while now specifically because HoloEN has had talents complaining about dealing with retarded management for years, but now that Fauna has rocked the boat a little too hard we have to defend this company’s honour apparently.

>>90792422
I'm east Asian an I cannot stand how they run away from responsibility like little children when anything bad happens. That Korean passenger ship sinking is a perfect example of how fucking retarded their problem solving ability is in times of crisis.

>>90792422
It's happening to yours now to dumbass

>>90786230
I don't believe in "having to clean up her mess". Its up to onlookers to have thick enough skin to not assume the worst and sperg out like schizophrenic retards. Where the fuck is your OWN responsibility huh?

>>90786230
It doesn't matter though? Cover is cutting their losses at this point, and Fauna is collecting her winnings.

If you watch Fauna, you'd know that she's smart, has potential, but her ambitions never match up to said potential. For the longest time, she's been coasting by doing one thing - streaming. Fauna was not lying when she said she is/was happy with where she was in Holo and she wants to stay. Her being in HoloEN mean that she could just coast and not bother with anything else, because Cover sorts the rest out. And being in the HoloEN ecosystem means she doesn't have to worry about building an audience.

Her whole "I want to be an idol" statement is also a half-truth. The more accurate phrasing is - she doesn't mind being an idol - so long as it doesn't require her going out of her way to do it. That's why doesn't participate in 3d lives. "Half-truths" is basically the whole gist of her statement. If you take the time and cross-reference what she says "she likes" and count the amount of times she "does things she said she likes", it doesn't add up. She's a streamer - unambitious, but entertaining. And that's fine for most people. She's smart enough to know what type of image she needs to portray to retain her audience, and she has the experience to execute it fairly well.

So far, her role in EN was to absorb the viewers that could've left whenever a member of EN fucked up. Gura disappeared? Fauna. Kronii bitched too much? Fauna. That's the main way she built up her audience. She's likeable enough, inoffensive, and has a decent sense of humor that most viewers who "just want to watch cute girls play games so I can laugh along" could latch on to. She's a safe pick. Better yet, she's a safe pick associated with a safe brand.

My RRAT is that she was banking on the fact that she has a dedicated fan base to continue on with doing things the way she wants - ie. stream and nothing else. But Cover gave Fauna an ultimatum, either do more, or get out. I think Cover was the reason she started doing more shorts. But recent negotiations fell through. In all honesty, Cover has been fairly accommodating with her not participating in 3d stuff for quite some time - I'm assuming it's with the consideration that she holds a significant bit of the EN mind share. To the point where Fauna has more leverage over the company.

Fauna knows this. That's why she's leaving and taking her audience with her. Even if it's just a portion of her past audience, it'd be enough to sustain herself since she doesn't need to split with Cover anymore. And Cover is fine with it, because - there really is nothing to be negotiated with her, there's no value to be extracted from her beyond streaming, and letting her remain in the company is just risking her stealing a larger chunk of their audience when she potentially leaves.

It's quite literally just business.

But I agree that Fauna knows how to play dirty when she needs to.

>>90792492
Yeah, that's some MASSIVE bullshit they pulled on Ina's part. And everyone has the fucking gall to come out and say, "No, see, management so good," when people have to be REMINDED Ina even EXISTS because management fumbled that shit so hard.

>>90786230
I knew Fauna was bad news when she spent ENreco scamming poor Mococo.

>>90792379
Silver lining is that her being forced onto the bench thanks to managerial fuckups means she literally can't run damage control for them, and gets to skip involving herself in this drama

>>90792095
Motherfucker if you see "due to disagreements with management" and think anything other than "oh ok happens all the time in quite literally every company to exist ever in the history of humanity" you need to rope. Immediately actually. That statement encompasses everything from being raped by a senior executive to not liking the coffee at the main office. It is made for the express purpose of telling retards like you that sometimes big boy pants need to be put on and people have to move on with their lives without shit being flung in either direction. You don't need to know anything more than they had a disagreement. If it was anything as egregious as what happened with Doki then Fauna would have gotten it out there somehow the same way Doki and all other mistreated corpo vtubers did.

>>90792422
You should since it's happening to you now and the only way to stop it is to act like an obnoxious anglo and point it out. Bumbling along trying not to offend anyone is what gets you into these stupid positions.

>>90792741
LMAO
Ironically yes. Their mismanagement actually keeps her from saving them from their own stupidity.

>>90787168
it's vyt dude, it's the biggest nijinigger den on leddit
obviously they will speak like what they are

>>90791928
>>90792309
She was interviewing a CEO form a different corporation and the conversation naturally lead to how to deal with graduations, and how the Company or CEO is often blamed, wether rightfully or not.
It's like 2 minutes out of an hour of stuff.

>>90792677
You do realize that if your theory is true you are calling every other member a liar since they say nobody is forced to do shit

>>90788879
Yeah Chloe was pretty fucking candid about all the shit she went through.
But even she chose affiliate.
Fauna's burning all the bridges with the company and not even giving fans a small CRUMB of what her actual problem was.
It feels like a KSon-like situation all over again.

Honestly I didn't expect this thread to be so reasonable and rational. Did most of the schizos and retards get banned? Or is it because the corpo cocksucking burgers are asleep?

>>90792946
The way I see it if it was anything that bad she'd have gotten it out there already. It's just an individual leaving a job. That's literally it. Hololive fans are so coddled that they think their entitled to know the exact reasons for every single thing. They forget their place.

>>90791372
I think it tastes better than normal coke. Normally if I want sugar I will drink Sprite

>>90790673
Do what? Soft-core porn?

>>90793221
is this even worth looking up?

>>90792307
This is also very east asian, to assume a problem doesn't exist until someone points it out and to shoot the messenger instead of the cause.

>>90786230
>Reddit echo chamber
To even give their opinions any thought, makes you retarded.

>>90792946
>chloe blames herself
>fauna blames cover
>fauna is under an nda
of course fauna can't give details.

>>90793198
> they think their entitled to know the exact reasons
See, if your oshi had disagreements with the company and left without casting blame on anyone (like with the previous 3 graduations) no one would think much of it.
People moved on after those.

This is different.
She's burning the whole bridge by not choosing affiliate and leaving the other girls to pick up the pieces after she threw a whole-ass rock at the company by blaming them utterly and completely, and throwing off ANY responsibility from her own side.
THAT's what is causing the raised emotional rhetoric.
If it was
> no one's at fault
like most of the other graduations, nobody would give a shit.
But someone IS at fault here.
Fans just don't know whether it's the company or Fauna herself.
The more Fauna delays revealing the problem and the more the other girls clarify that they have no issues, the more blame starts getting shifted to Fauna, since she started the whole thing in the first place.

>>90793423
> fauna blames cover
> fauna is under an nda
Download more RAM for your brain

>>90793036
Contrary to what the shit stirrers wants you to think, most people aren't really blaming anyone, besides whoever isn't doing their job correctly over at Cover.
Fauna and Chloe had problems with management/work load to such a degree that they felt the need to leave, most others doesn't.
The girls simply answering questions from worried viewers on their first stream after doesn't make them mouth pieces.
Cover not giving their own statement, leaving only the girls own statements is a shit move.
All in all, this is not a massive issue, but it as an issue non the less, and Cover has to look at what they can do it prevent these things in the future, including getting better at communicating.

>>90791649
Eh, this board never liked Saplings. And Fauna always had the most schizos so we're used to it, it's easy to tell who's being genuine and who's a shitstirrer. Numberfags ruined any reputation we had, it will never recover and we just have to deal with it.

>>90788244
Oh come the fuck on the two situations are not remotely the same.
Fauna wasn't terminated out of the blue with a whole-ass crime list like Zaion was, she's getting a warm month-long sendoff ending in a graduation stream but she's burning the company on the way out, leaving the other girls to do firefighting.

>>90787974
> most honest graduation
fuck off, Chloe revealed far more about what she went through but even she didn't cast blame on anyone and chose the affiliate route when leaving

>>90788206
Whoever is next in line is definitely at fault for Cover's sinking reputation
why can't she be faithful, the unnamed whore who's definitely going to leave hololive soon

>>90788206
> If another talent chooses to quit
With Kronii reassuring her fans, that's all of HoloEN accounted for in the graduation conga.
Holofes is also getting announced and 3 months from now everyone will forget about this whole thing and shout KINO KINO KINO from the rooftops.

>>90793609
She explicitly talked about disagreements she ran into with management being one of the primary reasons she was graduating, with the other being health.

>>90793546
>most others doesn't.
This isn't true, just because they haven't quit yet doesn't mean they aren't thinking about it. I lost count of the amount of members talking about wanting to quit, this is doubly suspicious in a company with relatively high wages.

>>90788396
And then everyone clapped

>>90793641
>ina
>gura

>>90787007
>resistance
I thought the term was sapcucks

>>90791236
Nah, only shitters were "drawing lines" because all of them had their own reasons for leaving, and it was generally amicable.
The doomposting only intensified with Fauna, and it's completely on her that things got to where they are, because her statement was translated and shown around in even the JP sphere.

>>90792713
So, what's the tally?
Stayed silent for one reason or another: Gura, Ina?
Wasn't among the wave of suspicious "damage control" statements: +Moom?

>>90792888
Fair. I'll dial the theory back a little.
Cover was relying on some level of social pressure that Fauna would do more. Fauna did her mental calculations and decided, eh, nah.
IMHO Fauna really has nothing to gain from staying in HoloEN compared to the things Cover would want her to do. With all the restrictions that come with being in the company, when all she wants to do is stream games? Her leaving is the best course of action.

>>90791005
https://youtu.be/mO9B1SEMj9c?t=108
for you

>>90793676
Thinking about it, and actually taking the step is a different thing.
And notice I said most, not all. The shit Ina has been dealt as an example, could end up being the same type of issue that could make her leave.

>>90793768
The dam is breaking, the level of resignations aren't going to randomly stop if they don't change what caused them

>>90786230
Holodrones are literally sisters who worship a different corpo

>>90793471
jesus you're a fucking idiot. an nda doesn't stop you from criticizing something at all. it stops you from exposing details of how the company works internally. you've obviously never signed one.

>>90792234
Anon.
If there is a problem that causes talent graduation there's two ways of dealing with it.
1. Internal discussion, talks with talents, management etc. figure out what happened, and stop it from happening again.
2. In case no internal discussion can happen (black company or restrictions or whatever) out it in public, full details so that public pressure forces them to come to the table, discuss and fix the thing (or be labelled as black company).

Fauna is the Zaion moment of Cover.
And so far, the company hasn't tried to tar and feather her and is just letting her leave with a celebration, but she has tried to put the entire blame on them without saying WHY.
The onus is on her now. What did they do to you that was so bad that you had to leave?
Tell people. Because at the moment it's her word against that of her coworkers, and most of them are completely fine with the situation.

>>90793696
>can't stream under penalty of death
>hasn't streamed in two months AKA business as usual AKA before the shitshow
nigger.

>>90792677
But that's not true, and Shiori confirmed it. I agree with you on that Fauna is not as ambitious, but she was also frustrated with how they handled her everything since her Japan trip. She had problems with her manager every other week.
Your rrrat is also shit, because Fauna always loved Hololive. She was Mythfag at heart and she never failed to show her love for the company. She was always a Holosupremacist; talking about how the best and the elite get in, how amazing the concerts and idol journeys are, and anticipating the next biggest event. Fauna fucking loved Hololive, there was no reason for her to leave.

>>90793432
>She's burning the whole bridge by not choosing affiliate
And? That hasn't been around long enough for anybody to even know what it actually means. Until I see Ame or Chloe come back for a special even I'm not going to believe this is anything more than Cover continuing to use the voices/characters and paying the talent a % of whatever they make by doing so. She may just want a clean break and there's no issue with that.
>leaving the other girls to pick up the pieces after she threw a whole-ass rock at the company by blaming them utterly and completely, and throwing off ANY responsibility from her own side.
She said "due to differences with management." How is that throwing a rock or blaming anybody??? Differences with management encompasses literally an infinite number of things that could've happened. Maybe a manager fucked her cat. Maybe she fucked a managers cat. Maybe she just doesn't like the taste of the coffee in Japan. My point is it is her right to keep things as private as she wants. It is also Managements right to do so as well. If either party was significantly wronged then I'm sure either side would get it out there eventually. And as for leaving the other girls to pick up pieces, it's not her fault that they choose to acquiesce to their fans' need to blow everything out of proportion. If you see "due to differences with management" and instantly think somebody fucked someone over then that's you jumping to conclusions and you make it even worse by running to the other girls pressuring them to make a statement about a situation they might not even be fully informed about.
Tldr: Hololive fans forget their place.

>>90793423
>disagreeing with someone means putting the blame on them

>>90792726
the only reasonable post in this thread

>>90793835
Hence the "and Cover has to look at what they can do it prevent these things in the future"
If the girls who have spoken on the issue are to be believed, and I have no reason not to do so, then they're not in any danger of leaving, at least not right now.
But Cover still has to deal with these issues, even if they're individual cases, since they can still pop up again later and/or compound into bigger issues.

>>90786329
Kek that subreddit are full of nijisis and sheltered troons virtue signalling each other

>>90786230
this is so fucking retarded you're all retarded
and this is the same shit y'all did to niji

>>90793940
Pomu also loved Nijisanji...

>>90786329
Kek that subreddit is full of nijisis and sheltered troons virtue signalling each other

>>90793940
Yup.
>I'm not leaving because I don't want to be here
This is what makes everything worse. She clearly wants to stay, but management isn't letting her. What else was she supposed to do or say?

>>90793916
There's no onus on anyone, you want more info because you're nosy. It is more than enough to say my issue is with management. The company will be able to figure out why and audience doesn't need to know exactly how and who fucked up. You're pretending like this makes her coworkers lives terrible because you want an excuse to demand answers you have no business knowing.

>>90789911
Current Youtube basically nukes any asmr video like its hardcore porn. Doing it now would be detrimental to the channel

>>90790547
Right as fuck. A talent's job in this situation is "I support Fauna's personal decisions." then shut the fuck up. Speaking up and defend management unprovoked is just showing yourself to be a mouthpiece. The heat is on the management, let them handle it themself, otherwise what the fuck do they even do?

>>90793546
> Cover not giving their own statement
I keep asking this to everyone I encounter, but what the fuck do you want them to say?
That they "didn't force her out"?
If they make a statement like that and Fauna keeps quiet about it, it will be a fucking PR disaster - no one will believe it.
And Kronii already said talents are making statements on their own, there's no PR.
That's what they do when they're given a significant chunk of company income. Company's reputation is now theirs as well.

>>90786329
you mean the subreddit that had a BVTM raider as a mod?
https://imgur.com/a/bvtm-raided-holoplus-one-of-raiders-is-mod-subreddit-r-virtualyoutubers-VImMvb5

>>90793432
>just don't say anything and leave
Can you be less of a shill?

>>90794152
Current Youtube correctly identifies asmr videos as hardcore porn

>>90794167
>Speaking up and defend management unprovoked is just showing yourself to be a mouthpiece.
People were literally asking them about that during their first stream after the fact.

>>90793911
see >>90792946 retard
nothing stops you from revealing bad experiences from the company, you can do it in a vague way if it involves NDA

>>90794152
Why do JP seem to be fine with ASMR?

>>90794304
>People were literally asking them about that
Were they? Almost everyone turned on the stream and reassured their fanbase like they were programmed to do so.

>>90793651
Yes, but she still said no one was at fault and chose to remain an affiliate.
Fauna is doing the opposite, casting full blame at management and not choosing affiliate.

>>90794229
>We have heard the community's and talents concerns about potential issues with management, and we'll be looking into them, in our attempt at securing a better environment for our talents.
Something like that.

>>90794304
Veteran professional streamers, intentionally get oneguy'd into defending management.

>>90794152
Girls like Zenya get away with doing little sister JOE RP.

>>90792946
>> Kson-like

Kson never talk shit to her ex company you dump fuck

>>90794372
People being concerned, were bombarding them with questions about how they where doing, if they had issues with managements/workload, and if they where going to leave.
They where asked similar questions when both Ame and Aqua announced their departures, though not to the same degree.

>>90794389
You are acting as if affiliate is some kind of enticing opportunity that no mortal could ever resist. That doing so is spitting in the face of the One True God; YAGOO himself. How dare she, naught but a peon, reject the blessing of being a Hololive Affiliate alongside uh Ame and Chloe I guess. Truly a traitorous wench!

>>90793988
> That hasn't been around long enough for anybody to even know what it actually means
The definition is pretty fucking clear, you'll be able to appear in future events as an alum - similar to ex-idols having cameos in their old groups, if both sides agree and can schedule something.
> She said "due to differences with management." How is that throwing a rock or blaming anybody?
She also said
https://youtu.be/6DolP8msG14?t=219
> I'm not leaving because I don't want to be here
implying that she was forced out due to said disagreements.

>>90790732
/vt/ has always been a reddit colony

>>90794121
> you want more info because you're nosy
No I want more info because this is clearly not a "no one's fault" graduation.
Fauna explicitly put the blame on management, didn't thank them during the tweet, and didn't choose affiliate on the way out.
That's as much of a "Fuck you" as someone like Fauna can give to someone.

>>90791110
Japs literally invented corporate efficiency to the point that it's used as the gold standard in every industry.

>>90793737
Keep in mind that the statements from the other members did not address management troubles. It remains a question of if having not yet cracked under the current difficulties of management, then does it happen at a later time under the current direction of the company. The "they're not going away anytime soon" was a PR statement that they're running with to help turn down the heat, but it also is throwing Fauna under the bus if it is thought by some that it's just Fauna that is throwing a hissyfit over having failed in overcoming some work that the others could do. But overall the reassurances are to deflect concerns on the talents end, and are not meant to point any fingers.

>>90794415
> We have heard the community's and talents concerns about potential issues with management
Good fucking job you basically admitted that your entire fucking management structure has a problem and you've now thrown every other talent who said they had no issues with management or their circumstances under the bus.
Next.

>>90794604
No you fucking idiot, affiliate means that she had some amount of love for her Hololive identity, and her fans in Hololive, and wouldn't mind returning at some point in the future as a guest for some program.
It's a pretty big "fuck you" to not take that route AFTER it became available.

>>90794760
Sorry
>PARTS of management

>>90794818
affiliates are only going to come back if they fail at whatever they do next. you won't see ame unless she needs money. it has nothing to do with fans. it's about letting cover and them get some last paychecks from fans.

>>90794598
>were bombarding them with questions about how they where doing
Where? It felt like they assumed it and everyone expected them to say, but did they actually read any chat messages before they talked about it? No.

>"Fauna said the quiet part out loud too bluntly"
Absolute state of holofagdom, she will be welcome back as an indie thankfully

>>90794628
>The definition is pretty fucking clear, you'll be able to appear in future events as an alum - similar to ex-idols having cameos in their old groups, if both sides agree and can schedule something
That is what they SAY they want it to be. Until that actually happens nobody can be sure that's what it will be.
>implying that she was forced out due to said disagreements.
You are reaching. The word "disagreements" encompasses quite literally anything ranging from reasonable to literal crimes. There is no implication happening in that statement. She is quite literally just telling what happened. What did you want her to say? That management is peachy and she's doing this just because? She nor Cover are obligated to say anything more than that if people freak out and read too much into things that's not their problem.

>>90794697
Why do you, a random nobody, need to know who and what exactly fucked up in a corporation you don't work for? You don't, you want to know because you're nosy. The corporation needs to know because they have to fix it if there's an issue, they already have enough information to act on it.

>>90794733
>Japs literally invented corporate efficiency to the point that it's used as the gold standard in every industry.
anon came here from the berenstein universe and the first thing he did was post on /vt/

>>90786230
>A fucking reddit thread
/vt/ really did bring the plebbit menace to the site. Kill yourselves

>>90795255
they want details because cover fosters a parasocial relationship. all of vtubing is very emotionally manipulative.