/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>90722753
which butt is the stinkiest? asking for a tako friend

Gonna go on my morning walk

to the anons talking about new model at the end of the last thread.

i saw it being said by a random anon so idk how true it is, but apparently soggy is booked for the next like half a year sadly.
hope its not true, if someone can confirm or deny would be much appreciated.

>>90722753
Oh... Are Ina's visa issues going to fixed in time?

Man I love Fauna

How far along are you fellow saps?
Denial and anger were pretty quick, I'm afraid I skipped bargaining and now I'm stuck in depression

So can we agree that all the talents that are defending management of their own free will are throwing Fauna under the bus?

>>90722853
people fart a lot when they eat loads of fruit and vegs, im going with fauna

>>90723117
1/10 attempt

>>90723115
I've been a metronome on this scale since the Important Anouncement frame went up

>>90723117
Sounds about right

>>90723115
I'm experiencing all of these sporadically

>>90723115
anger
COVER HATE
YAGOO HATE
SHIORI HATE
FAUNA LOVE

>>90722946
Who knows when Fauna may have asked for a new model. I'm sure soggy-mama would be willing to help her

>>90723122
Maybe Fauna being a vegan isn’t so bad after all…

>>90723115
Weeks of denial, hours of anger, currently depressed

>>90723115
Depression, though I guess teetering on acceptance now. Still sucks beyond belief but I'm trying to enjoy the time we have left.

>>90722946
Booked by Fauna, of course.

>>90723115
im pulling into acceptance now
which im thankful for as it was impossible to do any work these last two days

>>90723115
Somewhere between depression and acceptance

>>90722946
She might be one of the bookings, besides she really loved Fauna a good chance she'd find a way to fit her in

>>90723115
bargaining probably, I keep thinking about how many more streams I would've watched live if I could go back...

drawing is the first time i felt connected with her in some way

>>90724090
Cute!

>>90723115
Somewhere between depression and acceptance. Still feel sad at times, but I’ve mostly accepted the reality of things and looking forward to the future.

The thing that I'll miss the most after she leaves is tickling her until she's a cackling, sobbing mess!

>>90723115
I'm in denial that she will start doing collabs with twitchfags

>>90723115
The only bargaining I'm doing is hoping LL rebrands into something Green.

>>90724361
LimeLeaf incoming

>>90724398
If she was lemon themed why was she pink?

>>90724361
And please something that gives off a more oneesan vibe. Fauna's voice with a loli body doesn't compute to me.

>>90723117
No, but people on the Internet will spin anything that happens into absolutist narratives. In my experience, reality is always somewhere in the middle.

>>90722753
Cute dope

>>90724090
cute

>>90724090
My beautiful green wife

>>90723022
She will have a pre-recorded clip, that was totally definitely prepared before she flew to Japan.

>>90724518
It made more sense with her debut voice and before that, now not so much.

>>90724641
The one thing I've learned from this fiasco is that management quality varies wildly from talent to talent. I get the challenge of trying to meet the unique needs of dozens of creators but the retards who let Fauna slip away and fucked up Ina's visa need the boot ASAP. How easy is it to fire people in Japan?

I like being a sapling...I don't want to be something new...

>>90723115

>>90725083
I'll always be a sapling, thats something that wont change until my passing

>>90724947
What I don't understand is why the higher ups side with the managers every time. The managers are replaceable, the talents aren't.

>>90724947
>How easy is it to fire people in Japan?
don't quote me on this but apparently, extremely difficult
in fact in japanese culture, it's expected that employees work at the same company for the rest of their lives

>>90725166
That’s just typical Japanese business cancer.

>>90723115

>>90725157
fuck me.
a fauna office lady outfit wouldve been so peak...

(also to your question, because corporate structures are stupid and built upon who cam suck up the best not who is the most competent.)

I believe there isn't a fresh clip in existence that doesn't have RMposting in comments. Not that I'm complaining, just interesting how nobody gives a fuck.

Doob and Fauna will create their own idol agency with hookers and blackjack. They shall dominate the idol sphere and be revered as living gods.

>Bae singing Secret Base
This will show up in the musical right?

>>90725344

>>90725432
Selen and kurosanji had a domino effect on the culture.

>>90725432
Selen's termination and subsequent return was disastrous for vtuber culture, it brought in dramafags and reckless roommate posting

>>90725166
Tbf, it sounds like management turnover at Cover is high. Haven't some Myth and Council members gone through 2-3 already? I mean Omega got kicked out so they are capable of change.

>>90724243
A chuuba graduating from a big corpo doesn't need to return to the crab bucket whence she once came. I'm hoping LL will realize she's almost guaranteed to become one of if not the biggest EN indies and can afford to choose her associations.

it still just doesn't feel real, you know? i wake up and remember and think i must have been dreaming. then it hits. i read "fauna graduation" and my eyes just kind of glaze over the words like they're not supposed to be there. i'm in pain saps

>>90724823
I'll take it but I'm pretty bummed there won't be a stream with her

That's a retarded post but I do wonder if we'll eventually see anything with dooby
They didn't have much of a relationship but the idea of a familiar face might be appealing to both of them idk

>>90726049
I just wanted to make a retarded joke about making an idol agency.

So how many of you actually killed yourself? Please respond.

>>90725514
Dooby dooby Doobing but I kinda don't see her and Fauna as something together, you know? I'd prefer it to be Mumei's roommate, to be fair with you. That pair would have so much weight to throw around not unlike a certain other pair.

>>90725432
Well I'm annoyed they are doing it to other members. Seems disrespectful.
The default should be keping them seperate unless the person makes it clear they are okay with it.

>>90726215
I didn't, but I fell down the stairs and broke my neck.
Shit sucks man.

>>90726215
me, but i reincarnated and how i have all these isekai powers related to sex
POWER WORD: CUM

>>90726215
i'm here until january 3rd and then it's ggs for me

Do any of you have a list of everything fauna recorded in JP for the puddle arc?

>>90726215
I have run into some logistical issues

>>90726257
you'll get sh*nd* and you're going to like it

>>90726002
I'm mentally preparing myself for some inevitable moments in the upcoming months, that'll probably destroy me

>tell my normalfag friends that another vtuber is graduating
>they're aware of my hobby since I had crippling parasocial addiction complete with overspending couple years ago
>they ask why don't they just put another actress behind avatar
THEY DON'T GET IT ITS THE ADVENTURES WE HAD TOGETHER WITH FAUNA THAT MATTER! THE LITTLE REFERENCES! FAUNA SWEEP! ELEPHANTS! GERALT! ALL THOSE MOMENTS WILL BE LOST IN TIME, LIKE TEARS IN RAIN!

>>90726215
and miss out on more fauna? no way jose

>>90726634
fat fuck?

>>90726769
saplings dont have a neck

>>90726651
Please no. Why Pomu can stay on youtube and Fauna can't?

>>90726866
ASMR

Other than the fact I lost my voice due to stress I'm doing fine.

>>90726215
You saplings better hang on because if one of you makes the news for actually killing yourselves and Fauna finds out she's leaving the internet forever

>>90726215
No reason to kill yourself. There's still 30 days left and fauna could potentially cancel her graduation on any of those days. Stay strong until the final day.

>>90727043
>hang on

>>90727043
I would do it for the funny but I don't want to die

>>90727063
Denial anon, I hope you, most of all, manages to pull through

For anon that are still in the anger/denial/battening stage, let me tell you it’s gonna get worse, but then it will also get better.

February is gonna be wild.

>>90727428
bargaining* I mean

Does memefolder size reflect one's affection for chuuba?

>Gura: 261 items found
>Ame: 196 items found
>Pekora: 171 items found
>Uto: 43 items found
>Biboo: 30 items found
>Coco: 27 items found
>Fauna: 23 items found
>Rushia: 12 items found
>Shondo: 11 items found
>Mumei: 7 items found
>Panko: 7 items found
>Luna: 7 items found
>Lumi: 2 items found
>Millie: 1 item found

>>90727428
I can confirm it gets worse. Don't know about better though

>>90727488
It’ll get better.
t. in the acceptance stage

>>90725166
They basically killed Aloe because a manager didn't double check to make sure she deleted a test stream. It is unironically a miracle of talent scouting 10/10 talents constantly that Hololive isn't Nijisanji tier.

>>90725166
Managers are seen as senpais to the talent. Senpai always come out on top no matter what, because that's just how vertical JP culture is.

Any music you've had on in particular these last few days saplings? I was an interpol fan before I was a fauna fan but knowing they're her favorite band makes it feel even more fitting to listen to right now. Love you guys

https://youtu.be/nc-Xc-CFAiY

>>90726994
That's pretty good, thanks for the laugh

>>90725166
This happens in American companies too. I only have experience in tech, but far too often engineers will leave due to management incompetence and the management will face no penalty for it.

>>90727747
interpol - everything is wrong

What's sad is the next part. It will all be sunshine and happy tidings... and then she will graduate. The arm will comedown. They're already trying to paint Fauna as some kind of troublemaker, how she never really belonged, how she was somehow at fault for all of this.

It's coming.

>>90727747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIqBXPtolcw

Please I hope she releases merch. I really took everything for granted and only bought some plushies and never shelled out for anni/bday merch and I regret it so much. I will buy anything she releases.

>>90728357
The only way you would fall for that is if you don't watch Hololive or if you warm your Fanta by your PC.

>>90727747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1ZvPSpLxCg

Sums up my feelings pretty well

I just want to be sad and not have to worry about all the stuff spiraling around this

>>90728408
Don't give cover money for anything fauna related. But merch of the other girls if you like, sure. But buying the merch and giving money to the company that put a bullet between her head doesn't sit right

>>90728408
I'm gonna wait for her reincarnation so she gets closer to 100% of the cut.

>>90727747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx-Lzo9NxAQ
This one for me. Lyrics literally describe me seeing fauna for the first time while at a low point in life and then her slowly becoming my drug.

>>90728522
At most she takes a month off after graduating and then she comes back and it will be like nothing changed

As a chumbud first, I'm quite used to (them) spinning up all manner of rrats in order to paint my oshi in a bad light. At this point that kind of behavior is water off a duck's back for me.
My trust and loyalty lie with Fauna, and I will follow Fauna. Everything will be OK.

The narrative shift online in the last day is crazy. I don't think Cover is a black company but it's unsettling seeing all the talents doing damage control so soon after a little backlash when management has been mentioned in recent graduations and Ame didn't even want to mention her reasoning for leaving. Probably to avoid this scenario.
There is no way that management didn't read Fauna's prepared statement. Maybe they're so incompetent they didn't even care to do so. I despise that Fauna's being targeted now because of what appears to be coordinated damage control from Cover

>>90728598
That's overly dramatic, and she would still get the cut. It's a memento. I'm not gonna splurge on SCs anymore tho, would be nice if she kept them closed, but I think she just forgot yesterday due to stress.

>>90728748
Love these goofs, i hope they find each other again one way or another

>>90723115
Don't know if I'm more sad or angry.

Sangry?

>>90728598
Fauna would still get a small cut of that Fauna merch though, probably. I'd rather that than give it to those who threw her under the bus to defend their corp. They may have not meant to do it specifically but that's how their "change in direction" comments all came off as, because the quiet implication was "wow Fauna couldn't adapt" and they somehow could. Talents don't need to fucking defend their multi-million dollar company on the back of other talents.

>>90728748
Eh, Fauna had an army of dedicated schizos and antis for years now, I don't even react to that blatant shitposting anymore.

>>90728767
She should keep them closed. She'll never get around to reading all of them and there's bound to be some dramafaggotry slipping in if she doesn't.

>>90728743
This is what I mean. Everyone keeps telling me why this isn’t actually a bad thing when it feels pretty bad.

>>90728855
By buying fauna merch you are directly giving it to those you supposedly hate. They still work there. Just buy stuff that goes directly to her next month, any other option is retarded if your main focus is supporting her.

>>90728754
People are lashing out because they want answers that Fauna isn't allowed to give. That or until it's their oshi they refuse to believe anything at cover is wrong whilst ignoring all the talents talking about the change in company direction without actually saying anything about what that change is.

>>90728754
That’s how drama tends to go. The tides will turn hard one way, then rebound hard the other way until eventually everyone will settle down. Just stop doomscrolling, everything will be alright in the end.

>>90728743
She deserves as long of a break as she wants, but I hope we hear from her at least once a week in the mean time.

>>90728962
So you just want to feel miserable? Fauna gave us a clear sign - she will be back. It's sad, but we don't have to despair.

>>90723115
I'm at acceptance and developed a taste for lemons but I'm pretty vindictive so I find stepping on the shills cathartic.

>>90728990
I just want a keepsake, I'm not building a shrine

>>90727747
Obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_aC5xPQ2f4

>>90728754
I don't get the vibe that Holos are covering for Cover. They're just speaking about their own circumstances in order to temper the doomposting. All of them have made it clear that Cover isn't perfect and that circumstances vary greatly from talent to talent. No Holos are throwing Fauna under the bus, just the antis

>>90728754
>I don't think Cover is a black company
kys

>>90724947
This doesnt make me happier. The fact that a girl can be pushed to graduation just because of manager rng pisses me off

>>90729229
Tell me whos lying

>>90729204
The company changed direction but somehow only Fauna couldn't keep up... isn't throwing Fauna under a bus? Especially given some of the girls still hanging around... I mean, seriously?

>>90729229
Come on anon you can try better than that. Shitty management doesn't make it a black company.

>>90728754
>I don't think Cover is a black company
give us 50% of your revenue and in return you get management that fucks you over at every turn
sounds pretty black to me

>>90728962
It's ok to feel bad about it. We are losing a lot of things that we love about Fauna. Things like in jokes, art, and her interactions with the other members.
Don't let people invalidate you feeling upset at this loss.
But don't give in to doomerism, she will be back in another form and there is hope for a bright tomorrow.

>>90729376
I'm not defending revenue split and autistic Japanese men but that isn't a black company retard

>the year is 2026
>LL reached 1 mil subs
>she debuted with a dark green legally distinct leaf focused model (made by soggy-mama of course)
>comfy asmr stream at least once a month
>nonestop peak game picks she couldnt get perms for that were piled up for years
>special invite 3d stream with doob in her setup room
>fauna is in general more happy and calm. getting better sleep and no soul sucking homework
>several other holo ens graduated and returned to indie. honestly just a change of company direction, it happens.
>have comfy group collabs once quite often (group minecraft server included) and the other girls just come on as rm.
>fauna is still remembered but more so as a phase of growth.
>life is good for the has been sapling.

take the hope pill anons.

>>90728748
We're unironically more used to it than you chumbud. There's literally a schizo that has been spamming the catalog with fauna anti threads for at least a year so what's happening now is nothing new.
>>90728754
Then why haven't they let mumei and fauna release their original song yet? Come up with one single satisfying reason as to why and maybe I'll believe you about cover.

>>90729347
And Ame, and Aqua, and to some degree Chloe, and who knows who else that might still be considering their options. The problem isn't even the fact it's Fauna, it's just she is the 4th talent in pretty short period of time, and there probably will be more.

>>90729471
Japanese bureaucracy isn't black company. Expect to see it within the next month now that a fire has been lit under their ass.

>>90729459
>dark green legally distinct leaf focused model
Phthalo Green please

>>90729204
I think some of the JPs unironically are, but not the ENs.

>>90729459
>make a plan and god laughs
This is less than a plan so i cant even imagine what god is doing

>>90724435
she should drop the lemon thing and concentrate on the leaf. there's already a lemon chuba called limealicious

>>90729418
Rising the line between validating your sadness and descending into doomerism is the trick. It is a shame that instead of sharing grief in this loss and creating final moments with Fauna, so much of the conversation has been about management, talent trust, and company direction. More Fauna streams will help.

>>90729536
Them releasing it only after their ass is being grilled is proving my point.

>>90729471
seems like the only 3 holos that didn't physically go to NYC this year were the ones with ori-songs stuck in limbo, although i guess mooms technically was sick? i forget the precise timeline. might be a connection.

Thoughts and Prayers to all my Sappling allies.

>>90729586
Limes aren't lemons

>>90729168
"Turn the lights off in this place
And she shines just like a star
And I swear I know her face
I just don't know who you are
Turn the music up in here
I still hear her loud and clear
Like she's right there in my ear

Telling me
That she wants to own me
To control me
Come closer
Come closer
Oh I just can't pull myself away
Under her spell I can't break
I just can't stop

And I just can't break myself no way
But I don't want to escape
I just can't stop..."

It hurts bros.

>>90723115
Went from denial straight to depression, but I’ve accepted it now. I can smile knowing Fauna isn’t dying, just going indie.

>>90729655
I'm not defending cover at all but it is disingenuous to call them a black company over being shitty at managing projects. Without knowing the details of what homework entails there is nothing that makes them a black company other than it being a nice sounding hook in a shitpost.

>>90729694
She had surgery. There are different versions of events tho. Some say she had surgery scheduled and that's why MC problems started, some say MC fiasco was first so she scheduled her surgery for that time instead.

>>90729707
Stay strong chumbie

>>90723115
Flip flopping between Anger and Acceptance. I probably won't reach complete acceptance until she reincarnates and she's (hopefully) still the same goofy woman.

>>90729347
At this point, I can't even confirm how much the company is changing direction. And if it is, it seems to be affecting the talents differently. Kiara, Shiori, and Kaela say that Holos aren't forced to do anything (directly forced at least) which explains why the latter 2 fuck off and play games. Kiara says the company isn't changing but Bae is. It could have been incompetence that was completely unrelated to company policies or direction, like Ina's work visa.

>>90728824
The signs are already there, and that makes me very happy.
>>90729940
We still have Fauna for a month, and hopefully she'll be quick to at least appear after that, even if it takes her longer to get set up in a new rhythm. She's smart enough to strike while the iron is hot.

>>90730013
*but Bae does

>>90729869
They've said everything with the song has been done for a long time already. It's not "shitty at managing projects" anymore. Management is purposely stopping it from being released for god knows what reason, and it is literally impossible to think of a single actual good reason.

>>90728754
Unfortunately people's reactions here have always been simplistic and inflamatory. It's either a "good company" or "le evil black company". The reality is that Cover went public, and with shareholders its inevitable that there will be structural changes, and those structural changes won't really work for everyone, it happens with literally every single company that goes public, ever. Maybe they're shifting focus to less streaming and more idol-like stuff, maybe it's something else but clearly there was some difference with management that Fauna couldn't reconcile, and so she left. It doesn't mean Cover is inherently bad, because they can't be bad or good, they're a company. They're doing whatever is necessary to get money. Their utility towards the community only goes as far as their support they give to the talent, and if the talent thinks they're better off leaving and pursuing an indie career, then i don't see why they shouldn't. I'm sure a lot of the the girls will still find a lot of sucess and enjoy working in Hololive even as it changes, and they're also not wrong for doing so.

>>90723115
Like I keep telling you guys, there's no stages of grief yet because she can cancel the graduation any time in the next 30 days. It will only start after Jan 3rd.

>>90727005
Gozaru-chan...

>>90723115
Bargaining. I still think her or management's mind could be changed, but I should just accept the inevitable truth...

>>90730336
I'm in the camp that thinks even with a change in direction and policies, Fauna was still largely on board. She was just dealt an exceptionally bad hand with a really shitty manager or Japanese corporate autism. She had her Project Hope moment and wanted out.

>>90730374
don't let anybody get you down, I appreciate you (or maybe there's multiple denialings ?)

>>90729694
>>90729898
Mumei wanted to do MC even with the surgery but couldn't because of management
https://youtu.be/2TvagdCwYns?t=14085
https://youtu.be/XE9_p01SN_I?t=6386
She also almost missed HoloFes MC because of management

You know what this all reminds me of? When I was a kid we had this local ice cream place. I could ride my bike there, it was great. But then they made a strategic decision to stop selling ice cream and start selling high-end cakes instead. Since they no longer sold the product I went there for, I had to go elsewhere. Their business exploded in popularity and they continue to do better than anybody could have imagined. But I've never been back, since they don't sell what I'm buying.

>>90730482
>I still think her or management's mind could be changed
Yeah, Bae can still talk them into terminating Fauna instead

>>90730336
The money angle doesn't make sense here as Fauna merch sales consistently puts her near the top money-makers. People assumed idol-activities were what's holding Fauna down but other talents claim it's not mandatory so that shouldn't be an issue. Subscriber count doesn't seem to be a factor as Fauna is barely behind Bae (despite avoiding the more gimmicky shorts streams) and gets better viewership consistently. By all metrics (and her own words) she isn't a drag on the company yet still gets forced out? Something's rotten.

>>90729385
Of all the potential collabs this would be the wildest one.
Obviously don't see it happening but it would be funny

>>90726257
should do it how they do it in highschool. Just completely cut contact with dooby after your one connection is gone. They aren't even really friends, dooby is like that friend of a friend who just so happens to be in your circle but you don't really care about them all that much. I don't see her keeping in contact with her either nor should she. Fauna can do better than her.

>>90730482
>>90730545
Don't worry, Kronii is going to tearfully confess her love to Fauna in the Promise musical, slaying the KroFau rrats and convincing her to stay in one fell swoop. Jan 3 will just be the Promise orgy

>>90727747
https://youtu.be/pFptt7Cargc
https://youtu.be/pQsF3pzOc54
https://youtu.be/-0CSQk-UsIQ

>>90730593
>>90730336
It's probably something as simple as regular manager incompetence + them constantly shooting down her ideas and no one ever coming to bat for her.

>>90730633
Imagine the sex...

>>90730633
and to think that once upon a time it was only the kronfau rrats that were on my mind..

>>90730374
Bless you bargaining anon.

>>90729459
End of the day. I just want her and the other hololive girls to be happy.

Why is everyone ignoring one of the most obvious yet rarely considered reasons for her leaving? Kronii was her manager

I'm watching a green woman...

>>90729707
Wishing for the best for both of them

>>90730374
Exactly you tell them anon. This is bargaining

not a sapling so I'm curious. Do you think in the future she will tell you why she left or is she the type of person to not discuss these things even in membership streams?

>>90730893
I don't think we'll ever know. Especially if it's related to Kronii

>>90730893
I would say she's not the type to talk about it, but she seemed angry so who knows

>>90730893
She’ll probably little tidbits here and there of her issues with management, but don’t expect some huge tell-all stream. She just wants to move on.

>>90730893
She's very specifically not the type of person to talk about these things.
She was a little more open about things in the last few months, but only to the level that wouldn't really even register with many the other girls.

>>90730692
Yeah that's my theory too, she had terrible manager, zero support, no sponsorships, cancelled projects, all on top of traveling that's been killing her, she just got fed up with that stuff. If there were any rumors about "change in direction" it only made her feel worse, but wasn't the main reason for the "disagreement"

>>90730893
Doubt it. But I never expected her to be based enough to name drop management so who knows?

>>90730950
hope so most probally TLDR
Fauna tells kronii don't lie to her fans
Kronii being a bitch says, Fauna been lying to her fans since day one being married and all
probably

will she still say she's going to an "idol meeting" if she's not an idol anymore?

>>90730893
She can give hints or not, I would prefer starting on a clean slate and saying nothing about her previous life

>>90730633
>Jan 3 will just be the Promise orgy
No more Promise orgies...fuck

Doubt it, she's not one to care for drama. She's definitely pissed and maybe we'll get some ideas as to what went on but she probably just wants to move on and that's okay

>>90731177
fair enough

Fuck...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbbbChpWqoQ

Watame bought a Fauna friends with u plushie to remember her by apparently

>>90730336
Probably the most sensible post on /vt/ I've seen regarding this. Whatever the reason is, it ultimately doesn't matter all that much to me. I know Fauna loves her fanbase and so I trust that she made the right judgement call to remove herself from Hololive. I believe she did the best thing for herself, and in turn likely also means the best case for us as fans of her. I don't think she's going anywhere and I am actually excited to see a fully unleashed Fauna.

>>90730893
She doesn't really trauma-dump if that's what you're asking. Just going by degree of past complaining, she was relatively low on my list likely departures. While other holos had no problem explaining what a horrible day they just had or go into detail of their health problems, she always kept it vague and non-threatening. No drama Fauna.

>>90731165
She's just gonna call herself an idol, just not in a corpo.
>picrelated

>>90730893
She is way too professional to do something like that, unless it was THAT bad, which I doubt.

>>90730633
>the KroFau rrats
If this whole krofau thing this year turns out to be Kronii knowing this whole and not being able to handle it, then I won't know how to feel

>>90731443
>it was THAT bad
Well..she's out. I don't think there's a worse case scenario than that.

We love Fauna

>>90731528
Not really, there is "I'm out" bad, and "I'm out and YOU GUYS WON'T BELIEVE WHAT THOSE ASSHOLES DID TO ME" BAD

>>90731255
>Watame bought a Fauna friends with u plushie to remember her by apparently
Hope Watame does get to take Fauna to a maid cafe one day

I know things will be different when she graduates. Even when she starts up something new I know she'll be there, and I'll watch her. I'm just really scared, because it'll be different and I'll have to get used to it, and I'm scared I won't get used it.

>>90731484
I thought about that, but she wouldn't actively ignore Fauna if that were the case. Kronii wouldn't even utter Fauna's name aloud even when her chat brought it up. During the Ame Aquarium, Kronii spent a LOT of time looking and discussing aloud the inhabitants of each exhibit - all except the Fauna axolotl one.

>>90731484
Fauna told Kronii that she'd been having doubts about Holo while they were dating and it's been on her mind ever since they broke up. Why did she have to date the one time warden with attachment issues?

>>90731484
I've chosen to believe this one after the announcement dropped

>>90731157
Not saying I believe you but if Fauna was married that would explain why she's so stable
Single women be crazy

>>90731610
Well I mean it's fauna she doesn't need to. It's like watching the cutest and nicest girl in your school bruised and bloody.

>>90731633
Maybe she didn't wanna talk about the Fauna one because she'd break down right then and there knowing that she was next after Ame.

>>90731528
Worse case scenario would be getting yourself terminated on purpose so you can leave immediately like Selen. The fact that it’s still a normal graduation means that yes there were clearly serious problems, but not like “completely nuke your relationship with all your coworkers” level of problems.

>>90731627
This is also my only worry

>>90731715
I know how to handle my woman
You're welcome

>>90731722
Ryona chads...
Now that I think about it, I've never seen a Fauna ryona edit

lemonleaf is a really dumb name

>>90731754
Her "breakdown" at the end with Ame was about regretting not making more memories with her. Kind of an odd lesson to admit to while also ignoring (and continuing to ignore) Fauna for a year. Occam's razor says she did have a falling out and still begrudges Fauna. And if you accept that, then Fauna blaming management might just be cover for her actually not wishing to stay with a gen-mate who actively hates her.

>>90731918
No u

>>90731918
I actually like the name

>>90727747
I found Nerissa's cover of Down By the River particularly haunting, matching the atmosphere I'm feeling. It's a mix of mystery which matches Fauna's lore of being this elusive forest goddess, me being entranced by her and not sure if it's a dream or not, the bittersweetness of knowing that her presence is fleeting, and meanwhile there's this heavy air closing it as I slowly lose her. All of that makes me try to hold on tighter as she slowly slips away. It's a very dark, but surreal and dreamlike limbo feeling. Rissa is a very divisive holomem, and I haven't played any Baldur's Gate games but I like this cover and find it genuinely haunting and fitting. It really matches how I'm currently feeling, chasing after an apparition I probably shouldn't have let myself get so enchanted by but I couldn't help myself.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j3wK1DXhrs

>>90732003
Out of all the explanations, this one hurts the most. Even if I don't believe it.

>>90732165
Rissa is divisive? She's such a sweetie.

>>90730666
that brand new song takes me back. always loved that album when i was younger. maybe i'll put it on today. thanks anon

>>90732003
No, management was definitely the main reason, but something that could be avoided if she felt comfortable otherwise. Kronii abandoning her could be a big factor to create discomfort, especially when her other close friends, Gura and Mumei, are constantly away.

>>90724947
>>90725303
If they can't outright fire them, then they need to at least push them into some fucking broom closet and leave them there.

>>90722753
At least a certain leaf now has a sub count of a quarter of a million.

Since the uuu will be vacant I wonder if we can use it for my new oshi, Lemonleaf

>>90731627
I have anxiety about how it's going to be to.
But ultimately I have faith that things will basically be the same. She's built up a really good thing and she'll be incredibly successful if she keeps her current formula up

>>90723115
Anger.

It's really hard for me to forgive the management for how they handled her exit. Also pretty mad at everyone losing the plot and not directly acknowledging that Fauna has had a bad time. The community management and wrangling is abhorrent, for some reason they didn't lock down the subreddit so they're now going to quickly blame shitposters for "doomposting" instead of management not tardwrangling...

If she had such a bad time, they could've tried to mend it before announcing it like that. Fuck that. This all screams rude JP Corpo... so annoyed

>>90732460
There are some messages like Biboo and Kaela which I appreciated that didn't really touch up on the company at all and just wished her the best, Shiori's who straight up said her experience doesn't invalidate Fauna's despite her experience going well. But then you had really fucking abhorrent statement's like Bae's or ERBs' which were just upsetting. Not even going to touch up on the JP side since they're mostly damage controlling for Chloe even though it's kind of tone deaf in its own way too

>>90732628
I felt sad hearing Bae talk about it. I get that change can be needed from time to time, but if it that means that Fauna will no longer be around then I don't want anything to change.

>>90732628
I've seen the others, what did ERB say? Also Kaela knows how to speak about topics like this unlike Kiara who is a bit of a retard

>>90732377
There's been talk of this being the case. We'll just have to wait and see after the next debut.

Gonna miss that green lady, crashing trucks into things and giggling uncontrollably when the Hava Nagila starts playing.

>>90732803
Kiara's was also fine, because she at least acknowledged management can take a toll on people and that it's never really one thing and instead a bunch of things piled on over time.

>>90732282
Why not just combine the two to make it simpler? Fauna and Kronii had a feud, neither side was in the wrong but there was an actual irreconcilable issue, and management ultimately sided with Kronii. Possibly because they thought Fauna would be more likely to acquiesce after cooling down. Instead she hands in her resignation. Kronii refuses to apologize. No one's really at fault but it's an awkward experience all around as other holos try to stay neutral and/or convince both sides to make up before the resignation takes effect.

>>90725432
I wouldn't mind if they were real fans but they're all dramafags usually. More leverage for Fauna but I agree with other anons to pick and be careful with associations

>>90732628
>like Bae
Bae just did a sad karaoke stream where she sang all her
>I'm fucking depressed
songs. She had to mute a few times because she was crying.
Leave Bae alone. The two of them are actually pretty close. I just don't think Bae is taking this very well

>>90732740
It's a retarded take anyway. Change doesn't mean growth, sometimes it does but it can also mean withering.

>>90732896
That's just rratus rretardus maximum. "Management sided with Kronii" and then keeps fucking up Kronii's projects anyway, throwing her into frenzy. No, they had some kind of fight but it was all on personal level.

kronii will never speak to fauna again

>>90732987
She knows she's bad at speaking she really should've prepped something beforehand because her statement sucked. It's cool she cares but that karaoke isn't what people are going to remember

>>90733063
Kronii's 2nd orisong MV did come out before the FauMei one...

>>90723115
i was excited since the announcement. she's following in ames steps, it's going to give her more freedom to be herself whilst taking the increased production value she can now afford with corpo money
plus lemonleaf is cute and funny

>>90733061
Cover doesn't care, they want to turn it into AKB48 and sell more plushies and trading cards. Keep one thing in mind: at the end of the day, in the eyes of shareholders, Fauna is just 5%

As much as things change, one thing will always stay the same; the fact that she hates me specifically the most.

>>90732803
>unlike Kiara who is a bit of a retard
kek, based Chimkin. She just lets it out, there's no filter which can be refreshing when everyone else is trying to keep up appearances and try to act like everything is fine. But it's nice to hear someone share the same frustrations we do. I get that everyone processes and deals with this stuff differently but it's nice to be able to vent with someone.

>>90733215
>they want to turn it into AKB48
You can stop trying to blame the idol angle. You dont know what the fuck happened

Soooo...I guess I'm never going to be able to get a beegsmol fauna...

>>90733187
I don't even think their fight had anything to do with songs, different layers of management handle different things. Someone in management would have to speak to them about their feud though at some point, it's not something an entertainment idol group can just ignore. And in the end Fauna was effectively forced out for reasons unrelated to her public activities.

>>90732740
The Bae thing was weird because I didn't understand why the change wasn't compatible with Fauna. Fauna said she wants to continue the singing and dancing afterall. I feel like Bae just copied Suisei's shtick off the top of her head because she's been so busy with her recordings and Japan move without really understanding the specifics of Fauna's situation

>Konfauna!
>Faunwell!
Gone...

>>90733255
Get in line.

So, uh, just like everyone else I've been going through her follows and I noticed that she follows many 18+ artists, ASMRists and chuubas. Idk if she was following them from before though.

>>90733330
I missed the hat, can't be helped. Around that time I started membering and watching streams more religiously, but still wasn't sure if I want to commit in terms of SCs and merch. Missed the window, now I pay the price. If she releases goodbye merch with hat 2.0 included I'm not even gonna think twice.

>>90728754
It's a mix of damage control to protect their fans, the concerns spreading to them, their income, and to speak about their own experiences. The good thing is that this indirectly points the finger at Fauna's manager not salvaging this because if the other holos are having a positive time, why not Fauna? The easy answer is the manager rng rrat. It's a tale as old as time but it makes sense

>>90733467
Faunwell forever...

>>90733500
>that she follows many 18+ artists, ASMRists and chuubas
So, we're the same? Well, we would be if I had a twitter account. I am not signing in to look up lewds, I hate how every website is slowly turning to this, especially if you never had to sign in before, but now you have to.

>>90733415
>The Bae thing was weird because I didn't understand why the change wasn't compatible with Fauna. Fauna said she wants to continue the singing and dancing afterall.
It can be something as simple as the change requiring her to actually fly to Japan once in a while, and if that's just something she's not willing to do, for whatever reason she might have, that's just how it is.
At the end of the day we don't know what's actually going on, but there are plenty of ways she can still want to stay, and still want to do idol stuff, but still not be compatible with the changes.
And the same hold true with anyone else at the company for that matter.

fauna will finally be cunny...

>>90733500
Everything below the big fat red line is from before her debut.
Everything above the yellow line is from the past 3 weeks.

I have two copes right now
She finally releases her orisong she performed in Breaking Dimensions with Mumei as a farewell gift
Everything behind the scenes truly is amicable and she and the rest of the Promise girls will remain close friends outside of Vtubing and they get together every now and then for a barbecue where she exclusively eats grilled corn

>>90727747
This music has everything, asmr, theme and feel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ4INx5lfe4

>>90733500
I wouldn't put any weight on those. >>90733711
as anon points out almost all of those are years old

Both Fauna and Kronii seem like some of the chillest people. How the hell do you even piss one of them off, let alone have a falling out with. That seems impossible. I can't imagine it. They're way too chill. wtf happened

>>90730580
I used to go to KFC just for their snackers. They haven't brought them back in a long ass time so now I just get Churches instead

>>90733810
Kronii is not a chill person lmfao
https://vocaroo.com/1asPPxrpzXT7

>>90732628
Didn't know Beebs and Kaela wished her the best, that's great to know, thanks anon. I did head about Shiori not invalidating Fauna. But yeah I heavily disliked the statements from the rest so far. I don't know, the entity I want to hear from is management, not members indirectly. Hopefully soon but idk

>>90733695
No. She has grown up. After the timeskip she will be mommier than current Fauna. She will be larger than medium. She'll be extra extra medium. She'll have a deeper ara ara voice too and it will be permanent.

>>90733810
Kronii is absolutely not that chill lol. She wears her emotions on a sleeve.

>>90733961
Kaela's especially was reassuring, she said she immediately asked her about her plans after to make sure she'd be alright

>>90733942
This is terrible and dark and extremely funny

>>90733961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzJ3JJWujKM
This whole shit actually made me break down after I finally got over it.

>>90734006
mommy

>>90726702
>geralt
who? you mean gerald, loyal and seiso husband and father

>>90733961
Question is which management. It sounds like every member has a different experience. Kiara's stream was memberlocked but based on the summary being passed around, she was sympathetic to Fauna's experience and brought up her own yearslong grievances with higher ups.

>>90734063
They're good girls, that's some solace, thanks anon

>>90733810
I don't really know what you want people have been looping this all year. The only rrat that isn't easily dismissible that anons keep falling on is that they were dating, or a thing to some degree last year which feels a bit weird to be speculating on

>>90734214
Doesn't matter for us to know imo but I want them to acknowledge they're partly accountable for this mess

>>90733810
Kronii just projects the illusion of chillness but she's actually very emotional.

>>90733810
Anon, I don't want to anti but Kronii is a known bitch. I don't think she's related to any of this but she's definitely not chill, she just pretends to be apathetic most of the time, when she's clearly not.

>>90734304 (me)
If they refuse to do so, idk, I'll think twice before spending money on holo again. This going unchecked will mean more members having a bad time and I don't want to support that business model and system. Imma go touch grass, fuck this

>No more Skyrim.

>>90734620
Anon, you can have multiple save files in Skyrim. There are even mods to import characters from other save files. In fact, you probably don't even need a mod if you know where the files are stored. And I don't think Cover owns Fauna's Skyrim save/game files. That's Bethesda's personal property, not Cover's.

>>90734214
Quite a few of the girls have personas for their own manager if they like them. As for fauna even though I've been watching her on and off for two years I can't recall her ever giving her manager a name or persona but I could also be completely wrong.

>>90735099
Nothing because it's a fuck up that never did anything positive for her. If you ever wondered why she isn't doing this or that, consider she couldn't plan anything out with a manager like that.

>>90734417
>Kronii is a known bitch
Only in bed.

>>90735099
Fauna got jealous that Kronii yiffs with KroMa every Japan trip.

>>90735049
A continuation with visual mods and stuff would be very enticing.

I miss Fauna.

>>90735457
Perms are so autistic it's insane that they need them for mods

>>90735457
Can't wait
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6yHoSvrTss

>>90734620
That's just because it's time for the Morrowind arc.

>>90735568
Not having to deal with perms is the best thing about all this. Imagine all the games that she can now play without any worry.

>>90735631
I am 100% sure Fauna would hate Morrowind
Oblivion, on the other hand...

>>90735784
How about Gothic instead?

threesome with fauna and kronii
making kronii begrugingly perform sex acts on fauna

>Fauna wasnt in the enreco recap
>Gura and Mumei weren't either

>>90734105
>Kaela felt relieved that Fauna isn't attached to a black company
huh based

I can totally buy that she got screwed over by manager RNG.
I remember back in the day that some of the JP girls could get saddled with manager they didn't gel well with, and it could take a while to get a new one.
With the very limited english speaking poll of managers, if you get a shitty one, getting a new one might actually be borderline impossible.

>>90735894
Would prefer a threesome with Fauna and IRyS.

>>90735947
Oh fuck

>>90735784
Skyblivion possible?

If/When she plays the Witcher dlc, will she start the main game over again from the beginning or pick up right where she left off?

>>90736055
It's such a crime that they collabed so little.

Nothing ever happens

>>90735947
Ha, wouldn't that be funny? Can't confuse someone catching up right before S2 by showing people who aren't joining the event anymore. Funny thing, I think Bae had a clip or two there, and we know how active she was in S1.

>>90735947
You talking about something special? Because the chapter 1 recap has all three of them in it.

in your guess, how long of a break would she take before coming back?

surely she knows us humble hearted saplings cant live 0.01 seconds without her.
(tho realistically i hope shell take like a a week or two just for herself i bet the current attention has been a bit overwhelming)

>>90735947
all the white girls are leaving...

>>90735099
IIRC Biboo and Shiori both have nicknames for their managers.

>>90736149
But something did happen...

>>90736180
My guess is 2 weeks for debut/return teaser and another 2 weeks for actual activity. February.

>>90736238
Shiori has ame's manager

I think Bae’s statement about how Hololive is changing and change means growth was really just cope that was directed towards herself. Because I can tell you, she is definitely NOT in the best state of mind right now and appears to be more deeply emotionally hurt by Fauna leaving than anyone else thus far. I think people should stop attacking her.

>>90736180
If she streams a ton all December, I'd see her taking a month break.

>>90736016
Shit I forgot about the language barrier being a factor in all of this.

>>90736181
yknow this really did get me thinking.
maybe all the management problems shenanigans are somewhat because of that.
companies in japan giving shit treatment to non jap employees is so common its not even a racist outlier but kinda the expected cultural default.

>>90736255
yeah, Fauna is sitting on my face right now

>>90736180
Maybe one month to distance herself from Cover/Hololive and any lingering drama potential and private time for herself and setting up for the debut, but any longer than 3 months and I'm going to squeeb from withdrawal.

>>90734105
This is the only girl I believe in right now. Kaela is the most pure holo but stop playing that mobile league of legends game forever please

>>90736448
It explains Ina, Kronii, and Altare's problems too...

loving gentle sex with fauna
angry rough sex with kronii
kinky public sex with irys

>>90736180
I could see her potentially waiting till after valentines day to come back

>>90735568
>Perms are so autistic it's insane that they need them for mods
They got burned hard before on DMCA and copyright stuff. Yeah they overcorrected but I get why it is like it is.

>>90736563
Ayame won

Ah...

Ame released 1 original song
Fauna released 1 original song

I am beginning to notice a pattern....

>>90736448
I just think asians gel with asians, people like to delude themselves that there are only superficial differences between people growing up in america but if you are asian with asian parents you are going to have drastically different values than a white with white parents

>>90736572
Yeah but theres a difference between putting pokemon in minecraft and missing the initial lethal company boom because you dont have permissions and then waiting for more perms to have more than 4 in a lobby

>>90736016
>>90736423
Bae is her friend, she could have Bae translate for her if needed. Or hell, ask Gura to intervene since it seems Cover allows Gura to do whatever she wants.

Oh, looks like I'm in the bargaining stage.

>>90736484
She seems to have it planned out, she made sure everyone knows where to go, and even Kaela says she isn't worried about Fauna. A month is the longest I expect.

I was going to stop making soundposts cause I was so depressed but the skyrim stream really cheered me up so I guess I'll continue. Btw is there any way to make the youtube video player not rounded at the edges? I always get the weird black corners cause of the rounded player.

>>90736369
Bae is clearly struggling with this, and trying to cope the best she can.
I think people consistantly underestimate how close Bae and Fauna are.

>>90736673
Yeah, both are not good singers

>>90736673
They were also the weakest singers in their gens hmmmm

>>90736809
Doesn't theater mode get rid of that?

>>90736854
Month of horrors was great. I'm sad we didn't get that this year. I'm sadder that we won't get it next year.

>>90736181
>all the white girls are leaving...
the aliens aren't contacting us, WE MIGHT BE ALONE, IT MIGHT JUST BE YOU AND ME, BUT THAT'S OKAY!! BECAUSE DO YOU REALLY NEEED ANYONE ELSE?!?!

>>90736724
If Gura had any power Fauna would be the crowned princess of HoloEN right now, not graduating. And Gura might be next unless they really can't let her go because of legendary mascot status. Maybe they have to wait for FWMC to mature first before Gura is finally free.

>>90736983
It was never going to happen again with how Bae is handling herself now. Everything is dance practice dance practice recordings recordings recordings

>>90736567
what about Nerissa, Mumei, and Kiara

>>90737016
Does Gura care about "officially" graduating?

>>90736944
it does but it also blows the video up too big on my monitor since I have a 4k one so I like to keep it in the original sized box. I guess I could also just resize my entire firefox window after putting it in theater mode. I'll try that next time.

>>90737043
Rat would rather drop 5 covers than play FNAF

>>90737139
Baesed Rat

Any of you guys cried yet?

>>90736369
just like with ame
1) bae knew beforehand
2) bae knows faunas plan to continue streaming as an indie
3) bae will still have contact with fauna in private
they're not as sad as you think they should be because they know it's better this way. fauna will have objectively more freedom to do her own thing now, she clearly prefers streaming over idol stuff so the restrictions to freely streaming don't have the same upsides to progressing an idol career for her

>>90737105
>>90737016

i genuinely believe that Gura's contract is just:
>"literally do whatever, whenever you want. we will write you FAT monthly checks just please dont officially graduate"
mascot status is way too strong.
and so Gura pretty much lives like a retired neet getting free checks

Should Fauna's new model be cunny? Y/N?

>>90737105
Who knows? She definitely doesn't seem happy, and now both her wives are gonna be gone. That charade can only go on for so long, and you know
>#1 fan
>&

>>90737303
No, I’m not really a cryer. However the one that can set me off is seeing other people cry, so if one of the girls has a breakdown on stream, that might get me.

>>90731722
Kinda hot

>>90737358
I hope she has a cunny model, but maybe not as her main model.

>>90736453
IT'S MY TURN YOU GREEDY MEANIE!

>>90737358
No. For fucks sake, LL has boobs, watch the drunk clip and how they jiggle.

Does lemonleaf have a nickname?

>>90736809
I never had this problem when I made webm's because I was autistic and downloaded the entire stream and then clipped it using ffmpeg. You could probably just find the css attribute that's causing it using inspect element and remove it before clipping.

>>90737358
the answer is always yes

>>90737358
No

>>90736135
Would be dumb to start over. They're scaled for endgame. Frog Prince, Olgierd, and Detlaff are way harder than anything in main game

>>90737621
Lemonleaf.
What, you think that's her legal name?

>>90737303
No, but if I hear any of the girls cry then it's going to hit like a truck. Coco's graduation was really rough, because you could see the girls struggling to keep it together right up til the end, it felt like the last we'd ever see of her ever again. But with Fauna, it feels a lot safer, like she's not going away forever, so that's what's keeping me grounded. And I'm especially mad at Cover, and being angry is easier than being sad, it's a good distraction.

>>90737358
Nah, I want legally distinct Fauna

>>90737621
Yeah but that one is dox territory

>>90737803
You are so stupid to even mention that when most people here already follow her Twitter too.

...?

>>90737070
studying for class with mumei
binging dogshit TV shows with kiara
split-tongue blowjob from aradia with nerissa watching from another room

>>90733711
Why'd you block out some and not others?

>>90738056
Some of those arent vtubers

>>90734417
Kinda hot desu. A cold moody exterior yet seeking validation and love. The perfect fuck buddy.

>>90737971
She needs to be green, I know pink is her favourite colour, but she's always going to be green

>>90734620
There's always oblivion kino

1 free screenshot memory
march 2023 fauna showing her birthday merch

>>90738304
Maybe she can aim for both like that bitch from demonslayer

Anuaf has not said anything
is she OK???

>>90737971

>>90737016
Yeah I thought so too, sometimes I wonder if the management even knew knew that Gure liked Fauna a lot. Or did Gura even knew and complained.

>>90738349
Cute

>>90736870
>>90736904
Somebody post the duet soundpost.

https://youtu.be/XZ4vq4vs-Z4

>>90738349

>>90738435
>Anuaf has not said anything
>is she OK???
How will this effect her Divegrass performance?

>>90738349
uuuu mommy's arms were always so warm and cozy...

>>90738593
I forgot how sex this was. I hope she wears it one more time before she leaves

>>90738441
OOOOOHHHHHHH!
You might be onto something, anon. Got any more?

>>90738593
She used this so little I forgot what it looks like

>>90738593
I remember I instantly got a boner from this. She knew very well the powerlevel of those guns were too great to ever be revealed again.

It sucks that this is happening in December because winter is typically a happy month for me, and now I’m feeling a hint of seasonal depression.

>>90736180
I can see taking a month off to see her parents, it doesn't seem like she is going to take a brake like last year to visit them in christmas because it's her final month in hololive

>>90738676

>>90737303
No, and I cry extremely easily. I think I'll probably hit me in her final stream.

>>90737358
Not really, everyone sees her like an oneesan now

>>90737793
John Lemonleaf

For what it’s worth, notNerissa just followed notFauna.

>>90738810
I wonder if she's going to keep the barefeet when she comes back. She doesn't show feet in any of her outfits so I have feeling she won't

>>90738835
I see her as a whiny dork (affectionate)

>>90738884
Is she dipping too?

I'm gonna miss Nemu so much bros.

>>90738810
>Forest Fairy Godmother; Keeper of the Enchanted Forest
Oh, man. I like this direction.

>>90738938
Said no one ever

Can she finish the tree in 1 stream?

>>90738938
>>90738990
LOL

>>90738884
>just
Anon for the love of god, she did that months ago

>>90738932
I wouldn’t take it at as a sign of that, just that she still likes Fauna. Nerissa has always been pretty active on her RM.

>>90738349
>>90738938
Whenever she streamed while holding Nemu I assumed she was using her feet to handle the keyboard and mouse.

Hope you guys are doing okay. Make sure to stay hydrated. Everyone processes things differently but I found that letting myself cry it all out while looking back on the good times helped way more than trying to step away.

>>90738835
>>90738304
you're trying to grasp onto the past... it's faunover, she won't want to make a crude mockery of her hololive character, she will want to make something new she's proud of
>>90738914
ok, i hope she keeps her barefeet... but everything else should be new!

>>90738810
Sorry but the hair needs to be Green.

https://youtu.be/B9wk1OpXlbk?t=4510
this was my first definite screenshot of the world tree, its not that old of an project now that i consider it

>>90739038
Depends on her definition of finish

>>90738441
>>90738810
Needs the horns

>>90739056
My bad, I just now heard about it

So whats the real reason?

From what others have said, its not forced idol or concert stuff, its not even about moving to japan stuff, was it just pay negotiations or something? Or some other merch issues?

>>90739167
probably stream ideas getting rejected

>>90739107
thanks waterfoxling. in a sea of tourists it's worth sticking here for this

>>90738884
She followed notGura and notFauna at the same time or one after the other, but that was awhile ago.

>>90738938
Gonna miss that fuck just a little bit, particularly whenever she went "MIMIMIMIMIMI!" Mostly I was just seething whenever she got held. Each of those times could have been a sapling (me specifically) instead!

>>90739167
Watch the 5 minute announcement video to learn everything we know.
Anything you see outside of that is speculation

>>90739167
Does it matter at this point? Knowing the reason isn't going to change the outcome.