/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

Why did they do it?

>>90727676
I'm gonna miss Chloe.

>>90727573
>3 month grind
>THREE MONTH GRIND
Fauna had 1 month and she literally fucking landed the plane, slept for like 3 hours and had to go to the studio for the fucking holo summer stream where they acted like whores. She was sleeping early to be able to wake up early to stream at her regular timeslot too. Which was at like 5am at the time.

>>90727676
Who?

>>90727290
>blame the unknown and unnamed manager that only Chloe had any experience with, but whose abuses were also known by other holomems, and who did not say or do anything to stop it or help her

>>90727676
Kobo general
Kobo won
The Queen of kaigai

>>90727676
Orca tits love

>>90727545
You forgot the FauMei song that was supposed to be out months ago

>>90727750
>She was sleeping early to be able to wake up early to stream at her regular timeslot too
That was a actually retarded but admirable thing to do.

>Management bad
She's talking about Kiara

>>90727676
>losing sakamata
>losing fauna
this amount of sex being lost in such short time is criminal

In Hololive we eat meat like a normal human being.

>>90727787

WIth Fauna gone the tranny schizo will find a new target to obsess over. My bet is IRyS/FWMC/Biboo.

>>90727573
>3 month+ grind
>advent talks about all the sightseeing they did
sounds like normal work hours and not a grind

>>90727830
Fauna loves her FST Saps. It's been a consistent thing with her, for better or worse.

>>90727164
>Heimin
https://x.com/amanekanatach/status/1863052914031546730
This was real cute. It's all a shame. I always felt like her and Fauna would get along real well

The two queens of vtubing

>>90727787
>>90727862

>>90727830
Coco streamed an hour earlier for Asacoco

I still dont get why kobo is hated by her own people. I thought ID was supposed to be "le based fanbase and parasocial cringe" whatsoever?

>>90727948
Kanata has a thing for girls with good voice so propably.

>>90728037
She made sure to inform them that the hate was mutual

>>90728037
crab, bucket

>>90728037
>SEA self hate
Color me surprised

wait Iluna is having 3D debuts? what are the numbers?

>>90727891
>Fauna loves her FST Saps. It's been a consistent thing with her, for better or worse.
shows her true idol spirit as a gaming idol

>>90728010

>/uuu/ just straight up RM posting
Guess this is just the norm now, I suppose they'll keep their thread name too.

>>90728037
Nobody is hating Kobo. She is cute.

>>90728037
success breeds jealousy

>>90728128
As well they should

>>90728037
That recent Suisei clip about poor people is very relevant to this

>ame gone (myth)
>fauna gone (promise)
>Gets along well with nerissa (advent)
gg please no... not nerissa too...

>>90728128
This is always gonna happen, was always gonna happen, people aren't going to abandon their oshi because she's leaving. You're just not used to it because we've never had an EN departure-into-reincarnation until Ame and now Fauna.

>>90728128
Deal with it faggot

>>90728074
>kobo hates seaniggers
based, but still wont watch her

>>90728210

>>90728128
It will happen to your oshi's thread eventually.

>>90728219
I'm going to be real honest the only thing that would ever deter me form watching her in the future would be a flesh stream. Not even a male collab can put me off anymore. She has her hooks on me tight.

So it's all but confirmed that none of them are actually friends or even amicable when shit like this happens, ESPECIALLY not the JP holos. They will absolutely say you're wrong and to stop complaining and defend management to the bitter end. HoloEN is the same way now too, sadly. Wouldn't surprise me if Fauna also left because she felt cornered in such a fucking hostile and catty environment. Yagoo is such a tremendous faggot. Always was.

>>90728037
Everyone gets hate. She feeds into it and lets it win.

I hope at least we get a single (1) tear from Fauna during her last month. She sounded so cold and out of it during the announcement, even Ame was soft enough

>>90728328
>Wouldn't surprise me if Fauna also left because she felt cornered in such a fucking hostile and catty environment.
She said disagreements with management. Fucking listen to her. I'm not happy at all about her leaving, I think all the other girls probably could've worded shit better, but don't fucking put this on them either.

>>90728272
2 more weeks

>>90728328
Everytime you complain

>>90728328
Nope, they will quell shitposters if their timelines suddenly gets filled by people accusing or claiming that they are something that they are not.

>>90728128
Anon, that's what /hic/ did as well

>>90728210
By this logic cecilia would be after nerissa

>>90728328
Bring me Solo and the Wookiee.

>>90728128
What the fuck else are they gonna do? Literally only /vt/ has weird rules and culture surrounding the rm shit while everyone else doesn't care, not even the girls. It's not like she's literally dying.

>>90727676
It appears Kobo's superiority has led to some controversy and bitter jealousy from the non-affiliated graduate-lings.

>>90728267
BASED BASED BASED

>>90728219
Whatever happened to kayfabe and all that shit? Why not change to /lemon/ or something? This board took a complete 180 over the past year, I remember when "keeping it real" was mocked as a Vshojo/Twitch thing. Guess I'm an oldfag now.

>>90728328
I think attacking the talents who are happy with their job is silly. Like what do you want them to do

>>90728399
At this point they will just repeat the same thing two hundred times regardless of what you say
Just talk past them already

>>90728421
Japan will fry her up

>>90728371
It was cold because she doesn't actually want to fucking cry. She wants the send off to be happy. And even still she was choking up at the end of her fucking Skyrim stream.

>>90727715
Why did you crop it nousacuck

>>90728267
post the soundpost where GG says CC likes gacha games with children

>>90728469

>>90728399
>I think all the other girls probably could've worded shit better
So true they all just accidentally worded things wrong with the exact same tone

>Fauna couldn't handle the harassment from her fellow Holos so she left
Poor Fauna

>>90728505
It's their oshi and their thread, their business. Also calling yourself an oldfag automatically disqualifies you from being one and teleports ten thousand cocks into your ass.

>>90728505
It’s the Selen fiasco. I’d personally consider that an exception, but others didn’t.

>>90728568
>wrong
Why is it wrong for them to have no issue with Cover ?

>>90728509
She loves it, faggot.

Fauna is a dishonest faggot

>>90728128
We will

>>90728128
I had a heard line on that because she was always so secretive about things. I still do for any vtuber by default, unless they make it clear they are okay with it.
Things changed. What else did you think was going to happen. Only way to keep the thread culture intact somewhat.
Any attempt at a new thread will get overrun by assorted shitters

They are changing shitposting angles so fast they are gonna run out before the week is over and there is still a month until graduation.

>>90728509
like Mori ?

>>90728399
You know you can just not reply to the retards right? Like it's pretty easy to tell when it's a shitposter because their takes will invariably pit holo vs holo

>>90728663
2 more weeks

>>90728467
>Literally only /vt/ has weird rules and culture surrounding the rm shit
Does it? It's mostly to prevent doxshit and kiwiniggers to run rampant. The board is garbage enough already.
Anyway, complaining about people posting who they are after being in Holo is retarded, since we all also who they WERE before getting in (unless you're a monumental newfag).

>>90728505
NijiEN has forever damaged vtubing in more ways than one

>>90728644
He probably thinks they've all been coach my management or some other schizo shit.

>>90728644
because blanket statements like "there are no issues with management" IS invalidating fauna's experiences.

>>90728505
why do you care what they do? Talking about her probably won't be done in /hlgg/ (other than by shitposters on occasion) and that should be good enough.
Just don't read /uuu/ if you care. the thread title "uuu" has to do with her vocal tic, not hololive anyway

How come it feels like Jp fans and EN fans are having two different discussions.

>>90728507
He wants them to burn Hololive into the ground because he wants his /vt/ version of the tortanic or Concord.

>>90728505
ahahahahah
so guys, i might have killed vtuber kayfabe forever
AHAHAHAHAH

>>90728697
Mori had help and company. She used to hang out with the trashtaste circle when she was a fresh expat from the oven. I really hope Biboo will get the same. Japan is harsh when you're alone.

>>90728778
because that is what it is

>vspo literal who 25k
>Pekora 24k
Kek

>>90728371
I hope at least one of her branchmates sheds a tear for her

>>90728505
We're talking about a graduation here, we're not talking about people roommate posting while they're still normal active members of the company

>>90728778
JP fans are bootlicking corpo drones by nature

>>90728768
Nobody said that, multiples peoples said that there is some issues with management, just, that it wasn't anything all that bad. Issues happens all the time in a workplace.

>0 goodpost
>all posts either antipost cuckpost or doompost
i don't think this thread will ever go back to normal

>>90728844
Except that all of that still applies for now.

>>90728817
>used to

>>90728868
i am making a good post now

I don’t need anyone besides Fauna

>>90728778
>EN and JP talents face different challenges
>anon is shocked when talks surrounding them diverge

>>90728868
It should be ok in 2 hours

>ironmouse vs irys gone
>kobo vs fauna is now here
wait a minute.....

>>90728778
Chloe’s health problems are hanging over the JP side a bit more.

>>90728768
>there are no issues with management
most girls said "i have no issues with management "

>>90728778
Because it kinda is, shitposters just can't do two angles at the same time so they combined Chloe and Fauna and are angry when only one answer is provided.

>>90728868
I see some Chloe tits, so that's pretty good

>>90728868
Fauna is a piece of shit and will always be a stain on Hololive. Literally ever single talent hates her guts now.

>>90728817
Biboo already said multiple times that Cover and gemchan are helping her a lot, not to mention mori, fwmc and the other girls.

>NijiEN getting 3D performance
>Off collab karaoke
>3D debuts
>Seems to be happy all around
Meanwhile Hololive
>Fans are fighting each other
>Girls have to be shield for the corpo
>Going to lose one of the top EN member in close to bad terms
>Looked at with suspicions and concerns by the VTubing scene
>Funeral mood all around
How the tables have turned!

>>90728868
we blame fauna for being retarded

>>90727742
I feel like she was forced to say this now.
JUST LIKE HOW SHE WAS FORCED TO RECORD WITH FUCKING COVID

>>90728768
I don't think anyone said that. Just that they're ok with how things are which is just as valid.

>>90729000
>we

>>90728993
Thanks for outing yourself like this.

>>90728328
I think Mumei is genuinely friends with Fauna. I think Gura genuinely likes Fauna, but they aren't friend status. That's about it.

>>90728644
it's their little way of saying "fuck off. you're just a complainer" to Fauna and Chloe.

>>90729051
nice strwaman

>>90727676
Kobo won

>>90728849
It's kinda funny how everyone's experience with management across three (five, since dubois have also been brought in what with that Altaire clip and all) branches MUST be the exact same and if someone has a different subjective experience then they are liars. Every issue MUST also be a matter of life and death, no nuance allowed.

sapcuck melty

>>90728768
No one can take you seriously if you discount all the girls who said that there are valid issues but chooses to stay despite that

>>90728993

>>90728993
>NijiEN getting 3D performance
>Off collab karaoke
>3D debuts
>Seems to be happy all around
but no more viewers

>>90727676
Fauna won
Kiara lost

>>90728467
I think /vt/'s taboo against it while they're active talents in a corpo is valid and a good idea.
But once graduation is announced it seems obvious that people are going to start transitioning to talking about the RM/reincarnation/whatever

>open thread
>welcomed by Fauna seethe

Honestly the whole
> releasing my membership streams to public
may be one last final fuck you to Cover.
Like how people discovered all the abuse niji did to Pomu after her mengen complaints became public, same thing will happen with Cover as well.
I hope they don't do something stupid like privating them afterwards, because that will TRULY be the end.

>>90729085

>>90728328
you know nothing about what happened

>>90729088
It’s almost as though he’s not discussing this in good faith.

>>90729085

>>90729131

Saplings are trying really hard to make themselves the new dragoons.

jwu how was mori vcr stream anything interesting happen>

poor saps KEK

>>90729153
Retard, Fauna has nothing like that in her member streams

Everything that happens next is faunas fault
she didn't have to throw management under the bus, no, she threw the entire company under the bus, now the other girls who dont have problems look bad because they're defending the company.

>>90729153
You’re trying really hard to make this out to be the same thing.

>>90729147
Many such cases!

>>90729153
You have never watched her member streams huh

>>90728868
>normal
The thread getting increasingly shit IS normal. I used to call this place shit before tempiss showed up, a year later it was so much shittier it made my head spin, and now a year after that my head is doing 360s.

>>90728778
JP fans are talking about Chloe and Fauna is somewhat incidental, EN fans are talking about Fauna and Chloe is more incidental, and everything is getting jumbled up. These two graduations happening within a day is nuts and is causing stuff to get conflated.

>>90729153
Anon.. If there were complaints in her mengen saplings would have spam them to death in this board.

Fauna is the biggest woman moment yet and Gura and Ame and Mumei are bad influences on her
It isn't too late for her to change her mind

>>90728849
To be more specific they're (mostly) saying
>I've not had dealbreaker issues
and also
>listen to and believe what the people graduating are saying
It's still an issue on the management side, but it's much more nuanced than "management bad" or "management good" and honestly just stopping at "certain managers bad" is reductive since bad managers are not just an individual problem but an organizational problem that needs to be solved at an upper management level

>Go forward my saplings destroy hololive

>>90729153
Someone already asked about this several threads ago, there is nothing incriminating in Fauna's member streams according to anons who watched them. She's also been liveposted here since becoming a thread favorite, so we'd already know anyway.

>>90729153
>may be one last final fuck you to Cover
If by that you mean her lamenting not having female kouhai yeah that will be a nice fuck you

winning

>>90729186
Where are Advent's new outfits by the way? It's been almost a year and a half. Never mind, you're still deluded that everything is gucci.

>>90729186
There is actual financial incentives to do that, if they succeed they might give Fauna a big initial boost to the start of her career after hololive but that hinges on them actually doing that and succeeding. For now it just looks like a bunch of rubbernecker from back then wants to be part of the next crusade.

>>90729040
Proud to be winning

>>90729294
So what made Fauna say this?

>>90728817
>She used to hang out with the trashtaste circle when she was a fresh expat from the oven
he lacks critical information

>>90728778
They're not. It's a rare occasion where both sides are genuinely concerned. Why do you think the JP girls are running damage control.
Obviously Japanese fans are more subdued and more likely to trust corpos, but they're not stupid. The main difference is that they're more concerned about the overwork angle because of Chloe, while people here are mostly concerned about management issues because of Fauna.

>>90728467
>Literally only /vt/ has weird rules and culture surrounding the rm shit while everyone else doesn't care, not even the girls.
It exists exactly because for many if not most OG vtubers privacy and separation of character from the streamer were very important and still remain so. It's a massive taboo in basically every fan sphere that's not Reddit or in some kind of South-East Asian language.

>Hire one of shondos friends
>she has a melty and fucks everything up
im worried about CC, the shondo clique is not to be trusted

>>90729153
Holo isn’t Niji, sister. Even Fauna who has disagreement with the management doesn’t hate them or was slighted that much

They're trying really hard

>>90729405
>shondo clique
QRD?

>>90729405
CC is not in Shondo's clique. She's in Olivia's clique, where Shondo is also.

>>90729370
Does the wife of one the dudes count? I thought that clip of the thai dude about Melbourne proved they didn't see each other until that point because he said he hadn't seen her in a long while

>>90729405
CC uses linux and hates corpos
I think she'll be fine

>>90729422
Eh, I think she still loves Hololive I don't think she likes Cover at all though

>>90729352
How many subs has your branch lost in the past week?

My princess did nothing wrong

>for the first time ever, management actually put a sub requirement on a gen that they need to meet in order to get 3D
>no meme
>wasn't a joke
>everything is fine
>Cover saikyo

>>90727847
finally we can return to meat posting

>>90729439
Nijifags finally found a weak spot and they are spamming it all they can but they are also very bad at disguising themselves

>>90729451
There would have been way more ways for her to cause damage to Cover's image if she doesn’t like them at all now

>>90729143
Because in my mind the original intent is to protect girls who couldn't have ever known they would be getting into a large corpo that would put them under the magnifying glass of millions and let people take their past out of context
It stems the leaking of it and makes it so everyone doesn't judge them by who they were before
But then when someone graduates everyone judges them in the light of their past persona anyway
That said, the pure indies who approve of this have always baffled me when they get their own old crap hauled up for people to see and have to awkwardly defend themselves

uh oh /lig/ger seethe

>>90729480
T-They made her a little too .... ethnic, no?

>>90729444
she was in japan way before holo

>>90729516
Who said she wants to do damage
She doesn't want to hurt Hololive, hurting Cover does that. But that doesn't mean she likes Cover

>>90729508
Turns out to not be as much of a weak spot as they expected.

>>90729476
The 500k requirement was just for show, they estimated they'd get there around anniversary which is when they were gonna get 3D anyway.

>>90729527
blindanon...

>>90729527
Retarded tourist

>>90729527
Anon that's her body tight...

>>90729527
??? are you talking about her leotard?

>>90729508
And they always go so hard that people end up tuning them out.

-> /pol/ SPY HER
/sg/ IS BACK .... not good news for the world
>departing gift from the current batch of glowies
<- /pol/ SPY OUT!

>>90729566
Anon, he’s throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

>>90729527
Look, her niggersuit is peeling away

So whats the point of getting a girl to 1 million subs right before they graduate? It's not like fauna's going to be able to use the wish

>>90729405
Because everything is running flawlessly and there's nothing to wrong and nothing to criticize at all.

>>90729474
NijiEN has been sub-positive for a while now, so you tell me

>>90729575
>>90729582
>>90729594
>>90729596
SHUT UP! SHUT UP! I WANT MY JAPANESE BROADS HONORARY WHITE!

>>90729522
Yes precisely. It's part of the implicit "clean slate". When you join Hololive fans don't care about what you did before, they care what you do now. Also it helps lessen dox issues since some talents have bad opsec before joining because they don't realize how much intense scrutiny they'll get if they ever make it big, so having that stuff be kill on sight is practical.

>>90729476
If you don't understand why they actually did that, you're fucking retarded.
And no, I'm not defending it. It's just a different issue from your childish trolling.

>>90729646
to give cover and that cocky little rrat the finger while leaving

>>90729566
How did they predict Raden would go viral? They wouldn't have gotten the subs without her.

i belieb

>>90729566
That was an obvious shitstirrer, not even a sister

>>90729153
>not knowing /#/ liveposted every fauna streams even the membership
i just want to see the percentage of the thread regulars and tourists/discords people in this thread

>>90729646
>WE DID IT REDDIT! WE SAVED HER BEFORE SHE'S GONE!

>>90729153
I'm pretty sure it's illegal to post in this thread if you don't have a Fauna membership, so you're under arrest

>>90729561
Cover is Hololive management. They are one and the same

>>90729767
BAAAAAAAAAAAASED
SHE WILL NEVER RECIEVE IT BECAUSE SHE'S ALREADY FIRED KEKKKKKK

>>90729797
Hololive are the girls. Not the management. Fuck off.

>>90729797
Management is also the individual managers for each talent. Some are naturally going to be worse than others, and it has been indicated that you can't always get a new one.

>>90729646
What if affiliate status is locked behind 1 million subs?

>>90729711
It's funny how this thread shits on Bae so hard when she and Mumei, a thread favorite, are pretty close. Closer than Mumei and Fauna, it would seem.

ok but for real its kind of crazy fauna never hit 1 million when she carried holo EN in 2022, the dogs made it to 1 mill in a year

https://jp.mercari.com/item/m63145885928?afid=2007540844
Almost $400

am i the only one that find VCRGTA incredibly boring?
i thought it would be fun after watching hologta so i tuned in

>>90729842
>it has been indicated that you can't always get a new one
From where? I know that some JPs burn through managers on a yearly basis

>>90729714
The subs weren’t a hard requirement. If they failed, they would still get the 3D and would just have to go through some sorts of fun punishment game

>>90729646
To show Fauna we love her

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO HOLOKEKS!
>IS THIS THE CELEB THAT WAS GIVING MORI ADVICE?!?!??!
DEFEND THIS! DEFEND YOUR OSHI AND FAVORITE!

>>90729900
Anon...it was boring the last time too
They just walk around and talk to each other because many of them barely know each other
It's like an extended mixer

>>90729646
Would fauna even get the gold plaque in this case?

>>90729900
That's what made holoGTA such a sensitive spot for vcr tourists, it was much more free and entertaining.

>>90729714
They would have moved the goalposts and added their official channel or something shit. They would have looked really foolish though.
Anyway the whole thing was a ploy to artificially inflate ReGLOSS' subpar sub growth. Same reason they pushed all 3D debuts in a single stream for bigger numbers. They're desperate to make dev_is not look like a faillure.

418 people learning about pseudopenises

>>90729900
>am i the only one that find VCRGTA incredibly boring?
Maybe, because nobody else is retarded enough to watch it

>>90729900
if you dont mind males, just watch Roberu POV.

So who's actually a pillar of Hololive EN, Ame or Fauna?

>>90729951
Oh no Elmo, I guess we have to revoke your honorary holo status

>>90728505
anon there's a reason most anons here use /#/ instead of going to splits to discuss their oshi

>>90729827
The girls are Hololive members. Hololive as a group includes both members and the management
Why the hell else do you think Miko and other girls got pissed because of BS rrats about Hololive? There isn’t any bad rrat about the girls, just the management

>>90729900
>watching a bunch of eceleb circlejerk
>incredibly boring
what a surprise

>>90730019
Whichever fits in your ass

>>90729900
>to much rule
>to much people
>to much people that tryhard
>to much people that abusing the system for min max
>to much clique
>most of chuuba that join is just NPC

>>90730019
Kiara

>>90730019
Mori

>>90728778
> Chloe : Forced to record with a cold, cried at home. Affiliate, "no one at fault".
> Fauna : Uhhh something? Flying? Vegan? No clue. Graduate, no thanks to manaagement, says she was forced out.

>>90729703
If it feels like the criticism of Hololive just dropped like an avalanche, it's because the fanbase have been reacting to legit raising of problems and slimy corporate bullshit with accusations of anti and trolling, suppressing and building up criticism until the dam finally burst.

>>90729882
It's as if subs and CCV are completely different metrics.
Honestly, very few people give a shit about CCV.

>>90729900
Oh shit, yeah, I forgot that was happening.
I guess because people aren't running around trying to bait with it nothing interesting or "yab" happened

>>90729900
The only people who watch VCR are people with unhealthy parasocial relationships with streamers.

>>90729992
By an ad

>>90730086
>>90730094
lol
lmao even

>>90730120
Yeah our usual shitposters are otherwise engaged

>>90730150
ESL

>>90729304
well why the fuck is she leaving then?
if there's no mengen complaints and no public complaints, and this was a surprise to every other EN girl, who the fuck was she sending all her complaints to?

>>90729900
isn't that whole thing just one big excuse to disguise the fact that it's just blind dating and e-celeb circlejerking? of course it would be boring

>>90729951

>>90728505
Dooki ruined vtubing

>>90729970
Theoretically? They still send fan letters if they arrive before the graduation day so I could see them doing the same for the plaque.

>>90729566
This is increasingly looking like cope.
If they do this to FLOW GLOW as well, then Hololive is doomed.

>>90730193
Her parents.

>>90730193
>well why the fuck is she leaving then?
disagreement with management, the stream is like 5 minutes long, you can watch it

>>90730108
now is the perfect time to unleash popular demand

>>90729955
>barely know each other
yeah, most of the time its too quiet and "stiff"

>>90730219
She unironically saved this board.
Dooby on the other hand ruined vtubing, affiliation is so retarded.

>>90730193
She said why she's leaving

>>90730203
>disguise the fact that it's just blind dating
really?

>>90729782
I don't watch ENs

>>90730108
>accusations of anti and trolling, suppressing and building up criticism
Which is very easy to see why with the sisters going apeshit on all channels, desperate to claw down hololive and even attacking hololive talents under the thin guise of "concern" not to mention those other fuck who are trying to hijack it to make it all about the blue faggot.

>>90728813
She must have been really sad when she said that if she didn't laugh twice in the middle of the sentence

After Fauna graduates from Hololive, she's going to join the Yogscast.

>>90730282
Cover always had this idea. They needed it.
If it wasn't Watson, it'd be someone else

All I hope is Cover learned their lesson about having two talents announce graduation back to back desu.

>>90730107
Management forced her to eat meat because a vegan wouldn’t have enough energy to dance and sing
That crossed the final line

>>90730306
Yeah, like they do in Apex

>>90730257
no she literally said she wanted to stay, so why the fuck are they forcing her out?
>>90730250
qrd?

>>90730193
You have to ask her because she sure as shit didn't tell anyone else.

>>90729719
you're retarded. There are no bigger boot lickers than those 3 mentioned in the post.

>>90729992
no comment...

>>90730348
Her parents are her entire fucking support system to the point where she moved back closer to them

It's kind of ironic how False comes out and brags about incoming Niji graduations "the graduation queue is REAL!" and then immediately HoloEN falls apart.
In fact it looks like we aren't going to get ANY NijiEN graduations in the near future

Fauna

>>90730350
On that note, i was amazed that she didn't ask people to not attack other talents during her latest stream.

>>90730377
why doesn't niji do the affiliate idea

>>90730368
doesn't make sense with >>90730257

>>90730019
>So who's actually a pillar of Hololive EN, Ame or Fauna?
Both.
Both of them have been incredibly important for making holoEN what it is today

>>90730193
It wasn't a surprise, they've known it was coming for a while, or at least that's what Biboo indicated.

>>90730392

>>90730282
>blaming the talent for what the fucking company cooked up and proposed to her
You're all hopeless.

>>90730282
Does this board look "saved" to you? I think I saw 10 different reddit frogs today.

>>90730193
"Disagreement with management" doesn’t mean she was pissed at them. Just thought that their directions no longer align. She wants one thing, they want another and she doesn’t feel very appreciated (according to shon). The adult move is to part

>>90730108
No, it's the usual sound and dance.
Despite being mostly hako-oshi, Hololive fans are very quick to shit on Cover, even Japanese fans (remember HLZNTL). Sure, there's a bunch of bootlickers, but nothing compared to other companies.
That also means it's really easy for antis and dramafag to use the confusion to false flag and stir shit.

Isn't it extremely grim that a collab between the 2 most popular justice girls can't even hit 10k? Guess this is just the future of EN now

>>90730392
Finally a good post

>>90730346
guess we know why mori join this time around, gotta have some to be with in that dream home of hers

>>90730457
Blame Ame. She invented the reddit frog.

>>90730509
9k is tremendously good for EU hours

>>90730453
She literally said (or bragged) that she proposed the idea to them first

>>90730437
Someone fucking asked "who is she sending her complaints to" and the answer is it's likely her parents because they are her support system. They are what help keep her grounded.

>>90730571
She did not. You're doing that thing where you read things /here/ and internalized it as the truth.

>>90730466
>talent wants one thing
>talent produces 100% of revenue for the company through their image and activities
>management wants a different thing
>management produces nothing but frustration
hmm who should we listen to? I'm inclined to think we should follow the managers, since they're real employees and we went to a team building exercise together where we played icebreaker games and holos are just contractors who we can replace when they're done promoting The Company. No one sees any flaws in this rationale right?

>>90730488
I'm not seeing any notable visible effect (sub loss, drops in viewership), though

>>90730568
Cecilia regularly gets these numbers. Raora added on top should easily make it break past 10k.

>>90730466
No, but the 5 minute video certainly made it sound like she was pissed that some sort of line was crossed and that her hand was forced somehow.
What actually happened? Who the fuck knows, but the phrasing is so lousy that you can point your fingers in any random direction and it'll still be plausibly correct. Hence rrats, rrats everywhere.

>>90730635
Why? Raora doesnt have a euro audience retard

>>90730515
I'm not saying holos and homos do it for that, but the other e-celebs unironically do it to get close to girls or other guys. Others just join to "network" which basically means sucking off the person with the highest viewership I guess.

>>90728720
Honestly this shit started with KSON

>>90730635
We have come so far. From "no one would watch EU hours" to "10K is bad".

>>90730615
I wasn’t saying who was or wasn’t in the right, just that that was why she is leaving without any big mengen complaint or public complaint that other anon was asking.

Kiara...

>>90730571
>trust me bro

>>90730282
Fauna thought she could be the next selen with people rallying behind her but so far it's backfiring. Most people would trust their own oshi than some quitter

>>90730615
>merch, licensing, sponsorships
the only thing the contractor contributes is streaming (sc, member, ad rev)

>>90695418
So in short the "clues" that Fauna was graduating
>No Birthday Live.
>No voice packs.
>doesn't get sponsorships
>checked out taking half the month off every month.
>hates going to Japan.
>doesn't interact with JP, EN, or even her genmates
>avoids performances
>sudden mass of collabs after a long break
>pl posting

Does your oshi have the warning signs?

>>90730735
It's because Kiara never brought in numbers so everyone thought eu was worthless, just like Kiara, until CC joined Hololive

>>90730193
>and this was a surprise to every other EN girl,
Bae (and by proxy all of Promise) knew for months

>>90730631
So for once outside it's actually well-meaning criticism, and not the farce in all these threads that desperately tries to just use that as cover for antiing

>>90730615
>management produces nothing but frustration
IDK, many members inc EN said they are happy with current direction. Just gonna trust my oshi

I feel like this is just gross manager incompetence + her ideas getting shot down. The latter could bother anyone after years especially when apparently a lot of the times you have to write whole ass proposals.

Imagine constantly writing proposals only for management to tell you to fuck off.

>>90730779
This is why cover is using the girls to damage control for them

>>90730509
Major debuff game. The stream is great though.

>>90730615
So are we also supposed to just ignore everything that the other talents have said and believe that the situation of this one girl is the norm? Let me guess, everyone else are just bootlickers, right?

>>90730769
>>90730827
I hate kiara

>>90730786
>merch
of the members, which won't sell without their dedicated fans
>licensing
images of the members for their fans to buy
>sponsorships
featuring the members, who are the only valuable asset this shithole company actually has.
the ONLY purpose these retards should have in their worthless lives should be to make the talents happy and fulfilled. ANY time they get in the way or make a talent unhappy they should be dragged out into the street and publicly shot as a warning to others.

>>90728328

the fact that you have no idea what's happening and how things are working in the company you support tells a lot about the fanbase.

>>90730936
not a single mention of her manager or even thanking cover for her opportunity lmao

>>90730982
>everyone who has been here with me all this time

>Fauna is the most dedicated and consistent streamer in EN
>loved by the entire board
>announces her graduation in the most respectful and professional way possible
>suddenly a MASSIVE HATE CAMPAIGN lead against her
>entire board starts getting spammed with Fauna hate, Fauna traitor, corporation gooood
>doxposting everywhere

Wow, isn't this exactly what you people accuse Niji of doing?

>>90728328
not all holoen

>>90731029
Biboo is the most consistent.

>>90730909
holy fucking white knight

>>90730631
That shit only happens in case of massive yabs.
People are not going to stop watching their oshi because of the corpo, that's just not how Hololive works.

>>90731029
>Wow, isn't this exactly what you people accuse Niji of doing?
yes? Including this instance

>>90730681
she's the biggest name on the server, what would she gain from networking with some nobody streamers.

>>90728328
>So it's all but confirmed that none of them are actually friends or even amicable when shit like this happens, ESPECIALLY not the JP holos
do you even watch holos? there are years worth of translated JP clips talking about them going to dinner, shopping, taking vacations together and going to random places or fucking disney land with each other. subaru, miko and mio literally just flew to america.
OKFAMS hang out with each other all the time, Towa hangs out with just about anyone including the gaijin pigs when they go to JP, Subaru hangs out with tons of holos, Marine hangs out with Lamy, Kanata, Noel and Flare, micomet and shiranui kensetsu hang out with each other a lot, regloss, nepolabo and holox are all close knit groups.
i get that you're a shitposter but one day you might have a real job and you will realize that no one is best friends with literally every coworker they have.

>>90731096
Getting friends?

>>90731029
HoloSanji merger.

>>90731029
>Nijisister trying again the "everyone hates Fauna" angle again
Are you that desperate for this one to turn into something like Selen shock, sister?

>>90731029
>loved by the entire board
Delusional shartling

>>90730836
Biboo knew for a while too. They all knew. Makes me wonder if Mori put together the 7DtD event for her just like Peko did for Aqua with Ark and Kiara did with Myth One Block for Ame.

>>90730816
but enough about Gura

how funny would it be if cover had to cut costs because a couple big streamers left so they terminated the homos

>>90730827
We have indie German Vtubers who regularly get over 1k on Twitch. Imagine Cover hires one of those who actually understand the EU audience. Whenever Kiara speaks German it's just painfully cringe.
It could be a Kobo moment for EU.

>>90731029
Fauna always had a weird amount of haters

VCR jumpscare wtf ceci

never closed out of a stream so quickly in my life

>bae talking about fauna
>can't stop laughing
>Sorry guis, I laugh when I can't handle things
>No I really cried yesterday, please belieb me

>>90731099
Why do you reply to these retards

>>90731029
>Fauna is the most dedicated and consistent streamer in EN
Lol
Lmao even
She can't do the decency to put up a schedule

>>90730827
She does with her bigger streams (girl talk, handbags reviews, euro watchalongs...).
Kiara just loves debuff content.

>>90731174
never. they will simply demand more of the remaining live girls

>>90731096
I dunno, she should tell me why because I'm also wondering why the fuck her and many others always jump to this shit like a shark smelling blood in the water

>>90731123
does she have tons of friends?

>>90731029
SNO is simply too powerful and SEA monkeys, nijisisters, and corpo bootlickers are upset.

>>90731029
>Fauna is the most dedicated and consistent streamer in EN
No she is not

we are getting a post with 5 greentext minimum/minute

>>90731029
Fauna hasn't been a consistent streamer for over a year. And I see more "fuck management" stuff than Fauna hate. Saplings themselves are RMposting in their own thread, as seems to be the norm now.

>>90731183
It's because she's Austrian, not German
And it doesn't help that her speaking voice is so fucking annoying and grating to listen to, that paired with her bitchy personality

>>90730358
Retard. Suisei constantly fights for management.

>>90731317
*with management

Goomba has the chance to do the funniest thing ever in the history of vtubing but I'll doubt she'll do it.

how long is this VCR GTA?
is already 4am on JP right?

>>90729663
>no proof

>>90731317
management is her right arm. of course she will

>>90731368
Wait until next contract renewal period somewhere around Oct-Dec next year

>>90731242
Both times she said it was to improve her japanese

>>90731368
I'm in.
go on Dumbledore

>>90731368
Why do you think the other girls are preemptively running damage control anon? They already know what is coming.

>>90731373
I don't think there is a cutoff time like HoloGTA, people just play when they want

>>90731224
Those are single pov collabs and sports which are buff

>>90731368
She ain't leaving yet, and she's pretty clearly not gonna do more than twitter follows and minor vagueposting.

>>90731368
Gura doing anything related to this incident would’ve made it the funniest thing ever because every sides (pro-management, anti-management, neutral) are all sure that they are right right now.

Soo... judging by the schedule no gura announcement today... So only tomorrow left...
I wonder how would people react if fes lineup is announced and she's not there

>>90731151
That would be interesting given that most of the branch ignored 7d2d pretty much entirely

>>90731368
z

>10k yesterday
>9k today
I know it's too early, but if she can keep this up she will have a pretty good month again

Ceres Fauna dies next month. She could come back under a new name the next day and it won't change that. A vtuber is the character, the person behind the avatar, and the flag they fly of the culture they represent. Weave these together and that's what you get. Take away any of them and you lose Ceres Fauna.

>>90731368
If she actually decides to do it and go balls deep old school meme style, I swear I'll worship her till the day I die.

>>90731151
I don't believe it. FWMC cancelled their stream during the week and then changed their mengen from a game to a zatsu for concernfags. Justice had a stream cancellation and a panic collab just before the announcement.
Promise knew for sure, but Biboo ahead if everyone else? She's just trying to reassure the pebbles panicking over her Japan move and the horrible timing.

>>90730377
Keep tempting fate.

>>90731594
I might agree if the vtuber was actually "playing character" like some vtubers do. But since these vtubers are basically just "streamers" I don't think you're right.

>>90731409
Ame and Chloe freshly renewed their contracts before leaving, and Fauna just four months ago.

>>90731574
she has to show up becuse she renewed her contract
corpo mandated, get out of bed gura

>>90731609
lmao are you stupid?
everybody knew they just didn't know the exact timing for the announcement stream

HELP ME NUMBERFAGS!
>convinced my wife to watch "Arakawa under the bridge" with me
>watched it a long time ago, was pleasant
But I don't recall if there is any scene too "untoward" and the last show I watched with her was the yuri heavy Kakegurui with the infamous "gun in the bathroom" scene which had her never watch another show with me again for the past 5 years
Did I forget anything about this show that would be similar? I remember the loli from season 2, but that's not too early
>TASUKETE!

>>90728328
this western mentality of us vs them you immediately jump to is selfish and short-sighted and the adults in the room are right to correct the narrative

>>90731368
Even if she doesn't plan on graduating she should add & Fauna. The meltdown people be hilarious.

>>90731491
ow wait i'm being dumb VCR daily maintenance is at 6am jst and hologta is 1am jst

Holo EN set up an entire story arc for Holo EN with Enreco Chapter 1 was complete success. Chapter 2 Announced already missing 2 girls and possibly more not including girls that are going to be busy like mori. This is looking grim.

>>90731536
Wow, buff content give good numbers, and debuff content give bad numbers. You finally cracked the code, anon! Proud of you.

>>90731574
Don’t think anyone really expect her to be there.
There might be some doomposts but realistically, she has been gone for so long that it will be a surprise if she joins an event, not sitting it out

>>90731368
I'm with Gura all the way no matter what, ride or die. As of right now I'm actually glad she fucked off and hasn't done anything, fuck managers and fuck Cover. I hope she keeps doing whatever the fuck she wants until those fax machine autists meekly try to scold her. Yes I'm fucking mad leave me alone.

>>90730282
yeah she saved it by bring all kind of retarded faggots that know shit about this hobby to claim every group is like nijisanji, which is funny because she was gobling riku's cock as Selen since the beginning but somehow nobody points that out

>>90731698
Just say it's a Shaft anime

>>90731420
last time it was because she was promoting her new album

>>90731687
>she has to show up becuse she renewed her contract
already proven false
nothing is really mandatory
chaama was not in fes lineup tho she was on official hiatus but not like it actually matters if it was officially announced or not.
Could be same situation mostly (without surprise appearance)

We are back to talking about Gura again? How many hours did the interest towards Fauna last? lol

>>90730779
subtle!

>>90731536
Kiara...

>>90731666
All the pieces have to fit. Her gachis will follow her anywhere but they're kidding themselves if they think nothing will change.

>>90731698
It's been a long time since I watched it but I don't recall anything that would cause problems.

>>90731204
Of all the "statements" so far Bae's seemed to be the most half-hearted. Just a generic "teehee I'm happy don't worry".

>>90731732
speaking of mori doesn't this knee cap her sololive success a bit? this can't be good for fan moral

>>90731813
you see, a lot of the rrats simply don't hold water if gura doesn't also graduate, so they're praying

>>90731666
>We hate kayfabe now
WTF happened to this board?

>>90731609
FUWAMOCO knew the graduations were happening but they did not know when they were going to be announced. It was the two graduations in 2 days that surprised everyone, not the graduations themselves

>>90729189
people screamed "oh shit, it's the One Piece girl"
someone called her beautiful and she responded "no, I'm a pineapple"
RPR taught her controls because she already forgot everything since HoloGTA (besides the fact she played a diff role there)
they drove around, robbed some ATMs, Mori started singing Wiz Khalifa
Mori tries to make the stream a Japanese-only challenge like RUST, but everyone in the group she ended up with knows English

>>90731856
>works on my machine

>>90731609
Some people are out of the loop when it comes to timing, like when Mumei forgot what Tempus was as between the introductory meeting and the debut announcement.

>>90731843
It's funny because I just saw this post
>>90731627

>>90731813
it's day 62 without gura now or so. people are on edge i guess with all the recent news

>>90731925
>Mumei forgot
KEKAROOOOOOO

>>90731029
Fauna broke them

>>90731889
kayfabe has always been exaggerated, there are very very few holos that actually truly play a "character" and some like Risu have outright called the wrestling comparison complete horseshit.

>>90731368
Funniest thing tierlist
>Starts streaming as senzawa but never graduates/affiliates from hololive
>Releases a new cunnier daki and then graduates after the order period ends
>Graduates and does a re-sale of the old daki
>Literally just stays in hololive in her perpetual hiatus

>>90731242
she uses them as excuse for Japanese only streams
no real networking since she tends to stick with people she knows or complete randoms that crack the autism shell, she ended being arrested by Shaka today, said she was a fan and never tried interacting again

>>90731029
If it walks like a nijinigger, and talks like a nijinigger...
Hmmmmmm

>>90732018
>there are very very few holos that actually truly play a "character"
This is completely wrong unless you meant EN only.

>>90731864
Doubt it. Not only it’s too far from now (way more than enough for people to move on), but no one is going to sit their oshi solo live out because another girl is unhappy
There must be some cataclysmic event for this to affect Mori's solo live. At most the current atmosphere might slow the initial ticket selling speed down a bit, but I'm not even sure about that

>>90731990
Are you going to post the same handful of images you usually do?

>>90731981
No one is on the edge about Gura. You said it yourself, she's been absent too long.