/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Has IRyS and kronii come out to defend Managment yet?

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>>90696062
>kronii defending management
that would be hilarious

>faunaschizo won
>holoxschizo won
Maybe you niggers need to join the winning side already

>>90696035
>>>/vt/xhlgg
Are sapcucks wearing out their welcome? Or spamming since they will be irrelevant after her graduation like the other literal whos?

graduate gura next

>>90696062
>Kronii
>defend management
yup, its tourist season

>>90696062
They haven't streamed yet. IRyS is very happy on Twitter though.

It's over, bros...

take me back

Where will you be Jan 3rd?
>#IFollowFauna

>xhlgg
KEK i like where this is going sapkeks. Homos and saplings in the same thread. Gonna be a riot.

>>90695920
>Explains why we have so many saplings wanting Cover to issue an official statement with receipts like Anycolor did...
She gaslighted the saplings. She literally has 0 receipt unlike dokibird.

I hate vegans

I'm starting to believe that A-chan isn't managing her dying grandfather's convenience store out in a small Japanese village somewhere.

Man, comparing how I felt just a few months ago, during the conclusions of ENReco part 1, to now...
I know the show will go on but it really is like night and day

>>90696062
This would unironically be the biggest red flag and shed the biggest fucking shadow on all of the responses.

I have nothing against the girls but damn I'm gonna be fucking grinning all day when Gura graduates because of the way you act fucking cover cock suckers.

>>90696234
Your tears are dedlicious.

>>90696062
Bae said Kronii was doing fine, so proxy defence, like mooms.

>>90696204
Receipts for what? She's got beef. I don't care why. When she's gone, so am I. Simple as.
>b-b-but what ab-ab--
DON'T GIVE A SHIT.

>>90696234
it really is crazy how fast things change like imagine this happening today

>>90696280
>mask off

>>90696234
September huh. I really want to know when she decided to leave

Pego isn't beating him.

>>90696062
Kronii constantly bickers with management and anyone that thinks she would is a tourist. And irys is too busy chuck of meat posting

>>90696311
SapCHAD

>>90696204
Using Doki route is stupid when you don't have receipt. You will end up like Sayu
Better route is using Mint route

>>90696311
>DON'T GIVE A SHIT.
holoan in the making

>>90696197
Kek no wonder saplings do not want to leave /#/ for the homos infested thread.

>>90696311
100%
Love Biboo, Love CC, Love IRyS
But Fauna is more important than those three combined to me

I had a dream something like this was going to happen. Like, someone was missing and some nasty shit was going to come out. Deju vu stuff. I don't remember exact details, but goddamn if it isn't a head fuck.

>>90696062
>Kronii shitting on the Perms guy 3 days ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkwtZAhgXFw&t=15017s

>>90696319
does he have enough self awareness to not make any appearances in EN cons for the foreseeable future?

>>90696339
No mask off. I've spent money on Hololive and got invested in the girls but people like you are ruining Hololive with their toxic positivity corpo cock sucking. Shit needs to change before it's too late.

>>90696387
Well she can just make up her "receipts" like Doki did. Suicide attempt my ass, lol. Can't believe so many people fell for it.

>>90696319
throw a potted plant at his face

>>90696358
>Peko loses to caseoh
>fuwamoco lose to ironmouse
all is good in the world

>>90696204
That's the thing. There's no receipts to reveal, she played the perfect move since saplings will only ever demand answers from the other party. Cover can't explain what they don't understand, they got outsmarted by Fauna perfectly. It's brilliantly impressive.

>>90696358
especially not now
i went back and changed my vote to him

>>90696428
Fauna has been fake and inauthentic since day 1. This recent fiasco should have proven that to you and you certainly should have known by now. Can't believe so many people here were successfully hoodwinked by her.

https://x.com/irys_en/status/1863471610919088296
https://x.com/irys_en/status/1863471610919088296
https://x.com/irys_en/status/1863471610919088296

>>90696355
>ENreco
>slap a theme on their minecraft runthrough
>still less interesting than the Pekora's Jeorji arc

>>90696467
>He doesn't have an oshi he can trust.
Your life must suck.

>>90696197
They're having a civil there rn because the other thread they claimed was the legitimate xhlgg got fucking NUKED, leaving this specific xhlgg thread as the active one lmao, lots of seething going on over there.

Don't care about Fauna.
Flowglow worth more than the whiny quitter.

>>90696451
It's successful because she have friends to back her up

>>90696446
>on Hololive
Kek mask off indeed

>>90696509
It's going to be meat again. She is doing nothing but boasting about eating meat since the vegan is gone.

is it just me or is all of holoen kinda indifferent towards fauna's graduation?

Rean sama...
https://youtu.be/YcC2bkUBTQE?t=88

>>90696196
I'm staying with Hololive. All you fuckers trying to get people to chase indies all over the Internet seem to forget why people watch Hololive to begin with. No polshit, no culture wars, no drama, no whoring, just girls being cute, goofy, funny, etc. Until some indie circle can offer that, I'm not going to bother.

>>90696446
>I'm acting this way because I don't want hololive to be ruined
>That's why I'm going to be grinning all day when hololive is ruined
Just a tiny bit of willingness to act vulnerable goes a long way in falseflagging you know

>spamming and samefagging
>multiple devices
I guess Fauna having a fairly comfy stream and lack of dramafagging today was enough to rile xer up

>>90696565
I feel cold

>>90696527
>
Sapcucks will never change, it seems.

>>90696520
Oh but I trust your oshi. I trust that she's devilishly smart and Cover walked right into her trap because of their incompetence.

>>90696355
Isn't Biboo just said she knew about it around BD?

>>90696509
irys really feels completely unfazed by the fauna news not even pretending to keep up a facade

>>90696311
This but no way in hell I am watching her other self. Fauna dies in January and so my interest in vtubers
>but it's the s-
DON'T GIVE A SHIT

>>90696125
When will Suischizo win?

>>90696578
>mentioned /pol/ boogeyman
You don't fit in.

>>90696605
Did she? Wast that Ame?

>>90696565
They have a job to do and Fauna is leaving the company. It's not like she is dying, lol. Why is the vtuber community so overdramatic about everything. Do you want the girls to go into full ugly crying while dressed in black like they are at a funeral. Fucking hell.

What if faunaschizo say the truth about fauna
I'm scared...

>>90696595
no amount of deflecting will bring the graduated talents back
KEK

>>90696565
No one is bothering to check up on her or even communicate. They'd rather say their side of management has nothing wrong going on and not acknowledging what she said.

>>90696637
cope, seethe, dilate

>>90696311
That's fine, and I'm never looking in her direction the minute she leaves ever again out in the indie wastes.
Feel free to join her, I'll stay here with my oshi who is happy.

>>90696565
Because they're bootlickers who don't want to lose their job

>>90696467
This.

>>90696520
I trust Fauna when she said you cannot be her friend. You are the one who didn't trust your own oshi.

>>90696578
We have been getting raided by liggers since the announcement. I don't know why they always target this thread. Indie scum never. Hololive forever.

>>90696687

>>90696565
Mask off moment. Nobody likes Fauna other than Gura, and Fauna feels the same way to the rest other than Gura.

>>90696631
Irys lives in Japan and Fauna hated traveling to Japan, theyve probably met like twice

>>90696467
This makes Saplings sound like retarded simps.

>>90696565
Just imagine if gura actually does graduate how cold the reaction from the rest of the EN girls will be with her having no significant relationship with anyone besides her own genmates

>>90695872

Some of these remind me of Rosemi. Although the company has been absolutely shelling out for Rosemi so it's odd to think she'd graduate

>>90696740
KEK hahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZdcQU2HoyU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZdcQU2HoyU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZdcQU2HoyU
GOLD GOLD GOLD

>>90696704
Uh oh melty.
But unironically I'm gone no way I ruin the memory I have of her by watching a subpar version.

uh oh bootlickers, seachama.

>there are those that actually oshi the company and think they can manipulate a false consensus
lol?

>>90696565
They've known for some time, even if they didn't know WHEN she'd announce it. Whatever emotions they felt initially are done, and now they have to ensure they don't drown from whatever waves are caused by a 1+2 graduation combo.
It damned well sucks, but I'm also not faulting them for trying to make sure doomposters and dramanigs don't latch on to them either, given how utterly cancerous both groups of people are.

>>90696665
the atmosphere was much more somber during ame's exit and that was only a soft graduation. even her genmates aren't saying much, it's very strange.

>>90696721
Yes Hololive Production forever, you do know they're gonna apply jp policies to EN soon right?

>>90696631
IRyS and Fauna had one single 1 on 1 collab in over 3 years. Fauna also never travels to Japan so they have probably met like once. They barely know each other despite being in the same gen.

Jesas they really are going all out on this thread.

>>90696748
Saplings are always look like cult members

>>90696740
>4 graduations
> 2 terminations
> 1 manager left

Brutal.

>>90696605
Biboo said she made her decision to move to japan already knowing about fauna's graduation so do any pebbles here know when she first brought up the move?

>>90696595
Of course. That’s why he’s trying to twist the girls’ statements to make it sound like they’re shitting on Fauna, and accusing anyone telling him to shut up of being either a Cover bootlicker or a deranged Sapling.

>>90696565
They've known that she's going to leave for a while judging by what Biboo said, probably even for months.

https://x.com/pavoliareine/status/1863473155299574011
https://x.com/pavoliareine/status/1863473155299574011
https://x.com/pavoliareine/status/1863473155299574011

>>90696648
T-two more weeks! This time for sure!

>>90696578
>Until some indie circle can offer that
Shondo's barbies clique are the indies you're looking for, coincidentally Lemonleaf is a member

>>90696808
They had two to my recollection which is more than IRyS has had with Mumei

>>90696767
>trying to eat so she can get as fat as Miko DX

>>90696767
mmm I'm gonna say its a horse race between this and shiraken. Its on miko's channel right? if its on flare's then nvm sakuna gold.

>>90696792
>jp policies
Kek, what are you even talking about nigger?

>>90696204
with receipts? You dramafags and your retarded psyops. Some of us are not asking for receipts, just addressing wtf happened. Simple. I know you guys want another Kurosanji moment but kill yourselves

>>90696832
Despite IM having serious illness, she kept going on and give her fans contents. Fauna has enough money for the yacht which is why she stop pretending she cares.

>>90696665
>Do you want the girls to go into full ugly crying while dressed in black like they are at a funeral.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23EmnCe-RyY
I mean kiara and kronii both broke down crying over ame and she went affiliate not a full graduation like fauna

>>90696833
Kek so who is actually telling the truth.

>>90696863
Shondo herself shitstirs all the time, don't be a fool.

Is Fauna the Doki of HoloEN?

>>90644346

>>90696833
lmao

>>90696946
needs to attempt suicide first, with picture proof.

>>90696863
>Shondo's barbies clique
I don't trust that clique at all
It reeks crab bucket

so why is fbk openly mocking two recently graduated talents on twitter?

weird that everyone shitted on fauna or the other holos even hololive as a whole but never management and they are dicksucking the homos and the exhomo, and people are trying to treat this as a selenthing2.0, even saw phasefans shitting on cover for being woke and spreading lies, also niji/homofans spreading dox(including real names) of the girls
Is it really over for whole hololive and exholos or karma will come later?

>>90696833
I still remember when people were calling Fubuki a trustyworthy barometer and calling me a schizo after questioning this when Aqua left. I know (You) fags are in here, fuck you.

>>90696833
I'll trust friend.

>>90696808
You could say the same about her and ame but irys still had some real nice and touching words to say about her

>>90696868
IRyS and Mumei have actually met on multiple occasions though and they actually talk about each other on stream quite a bit. Like in Mumei's acoustic 3D Live she told a massive story about how she went out of her way to prank IRyS with the burnt marshmallow. Contrast this with IRyS and Fauna who have barely met and barely ever talk about each other. That isn't a bad thing per se. They just don't really know each other.

>>90696990
/jp/ has not trusted that Skinwalker for a long time

>>90696784
They’re a bit busy being attacked by people saying they ought to graduate too because they’re assuming the problem is more widespread.

>>90696990
She is trustworthy this shit is hilarious.

>>90696946
She has chance to be Sayu of HoloEN

>>90696721
maybe im overthinking it, but shouldnt it be concerning for indies that all the popular indies going forward are gonna be ex holo? like, theres another invisible celling that has been put above them that will be difficult to breach naturally

>>90696922
Fauna never cited overwork as the issue, you're all fucking retarded.
>B-but Chloe
Also had major health issues ON TOP of everything so it's fucking retarded to put this on her too

>>90696990
what do you mean 'were'? She still is.

>>90696931
shondo is the only actual schizo in her group

>>90697009
>/jp/
Go back dogfucker

>>90696923

>>90696912
justice are too new but irys, kronii and fwmc all have said they have long term plans in holo

>>90696779
Yeah it feels to me most of them are just being reserved cause they know a lot of people have the pitchforks out right now, which wasn't the case with Ame

>>90696863
>>No polshit, no culture wars, no drama, no whoring
>Shondo
Maybe the other barbies adhere to that but Shondo sure as fuck doesn't fit any of those requirements

>>90696565
most of them seem confused as to why she is leaving, I don't think Fauna explained it to them either

>>90697036
Don't worry, they will drag them down like crabs

>>90696891
Nothing happened to cover they just grew out of being a small company and had to upgrade and act like a big company with proper SOPs due to all the sponsors and media tie ins. Some girls just arent cut for this change. 2020/2021 holo is a different beast from current holo simple as.

>>90697036
Nigga the indie market is dead, the number 1 is a fucking AI and the second is a tiktok magnet, the rest are sub 5k shitters. There's no invisible ceiling because they would need to first have any kind of relevancy before thinking about stuff like this.

>last several graduations had to say, "There isn't a problem," explicitly
>wonder: why even say that?
>fauna graduates
>oh so there's actually a fucking problem
And the last puzzle piece fits.

>>90696923
Kronii will not cry for Fauna, she hates betrayal

>>90696760
>besides her own genmates
fauna doesn't even have that is the most worrying part of this

>>90697042
No one said anything but this cuck is still crying

>>90696578
>Until some indie circle

>>90696995
You have to understand. Myth are almost held up as demigods in the EN vtuber space. Even if they didn't know each other very well Myth had an unbreakable aura of being untouchable and the Ame announcement broke that aura. It was a big deal.

>>90697093
the barbies are the only indie clique that have 2 of its members be a holo so that's something

>>90696923
they're getting numb to graduations which is a terrible thing for the branch. we already know kiara's "worst fear" is about gura so you can't really cry for everyone everytime or you'll look ridiculous

>>90697131
You have to double indie numbers because they make twice as much pound-for-pound. A 5k indie makes as much as a 10k corpo streamer

No but seriously how the fuck does kronii even address this situation?

which holos are joining VCR this time? and which homos?

>>90696990
Fubuki died after her Coco karaoke mengen

>>90696912
FWMC mentioned in their mengen that they plan to stay for a long time

Funny how alot of the threadshitting also comes with shondo shilling, totally a coincidence

>>90697204
She won't.

>>90697036
This is literally their only lifeline, the indie market hasn't grown since the very beginning despite Hololive and Nijisanji leaving twitch alone
There should be at least 15K and 10K streamers there now after so long but its not happening for some reason

>>90697204
By telling the truth, unlike the other whores.

>>90697203
You have to double the size of your brain before replying to me again.

>>90697139
What if Fauna is the problem

>>90697036
>>90697131
Yep, that really needs to sink in for a lot of people. "Indie" fans have no standards. One of the biggest indie "vtubers" is just some guy using chat GPT. It's pretty grim.

>>90696760
they should be crying in that case because that would be a massive blow to the reputation of holoEN

>>90696976
nina watches cc sometimes. its not just shondo who is admittedly a massive attention whore and vivi I've never seen be in drama

>>90697229
kneel to shondo, she gave you 2 of her friends

>>90697257
What if you're paid to post here?

who are we watching btw

>nijisanji graduations, terminations and suicidal talents
>holo terminations, graduations, managers leaving
>vshojo no graduations this year

>>90697240
>despite Hololive and Nijisanji leaving twitch alone
twitch's biggest star is a literal champagne socialist, that site can't die soon enough

>>90697229
Won't even give her a pity view.

>>90697257
It's becoming more apparent that this might be the case as much as saplings don't want to hear it. The reactions speak for themselves. It reminds me of when the Rushia thing happened and member like Flare seemed downright happy that they didn't have to deal with her anymore.

>>90697331
DUBOIS

>What Saplings want:
>Hololive goes up in flames, management fired, everyone graduates after her, Cover goes under.
>What will actually happen:
>The show goes on, and everyone treats this as just another graduation.

>Fauna graduates
>Goes back to her indie clique
>Starts telling stuff to Shondo
>Shondo makes shit public
>Inner workings of hololive get revealed
>Gura and Mumei graduate during that timeframe
>HoloEN goes in emergency mode
>HoloJP gets progressively mad at EN
>Huge rift is caused between fanbases
>Future unknown
Depending on how cover handles the next graduations shit may go nuclear.

>>90697257
75/25 on management/fauna, and that's me being generous to management and saying that Fauna should've sac'd her personal manager for a new one ages ago, given how absolutely fucking useless it sounds like her manager was.

Gaou has emerged from the crypts to declare full allegiance with the Resistance

>>90697347
Enjoy VCR GTA then, lmao.

>>90697331
https://youtu.be/-zGRQj-H--M

>>90697187
It is impressive, I just don't understand how Shondo somehow becomes a part of that clique when she's such a dramamagnet, I guess just by virtue of being euro and having big numbers?

>>90697257
Nobody seems to want to encourage Fauna to not quit,unlike Chloe,Ame and Aqua. Just saying bro.

>>90697240
Imo it's because they hate kayfabe and what it means to be a vtuber like kizuna ai. They also have a bad record of constantly wanting to own their viewers and going "i don't care about your immersion"

>archive posts which accurately predicted Fauna's graduation also predicted numerous others, including Kronii, Irys, Gura, Mumei, even possibly Kiara and Mori
>Mint said that things are going to be very rough in 2025

>>90697366
>Nijifan: Look at me. I'm the Holofan now.
The end of 2024 has been kind of fucking weird.

>>90697229
ennacuck is a shondofag. he keeps shondo close to his chest so he likes her a lot

>>90697366
>>90697368
Subtle

>>90697366
>>90697368
Perfect.

>>90697421
fallen angel...

>>90697421
I wish we could post emojis

>>90697347
>green holos
CC...
I'm worry because shondo clique

>>90697366
Man I don't know if saplings or not, but anyone thinking Fauna leaving will change things forever after Coco, Rushia, Aqua and Ame changed almost nothing in the big scheme is delusional. Unless she says some crazy shit about Cover after leaving, things will stay the same

>>90697421
The new direction is at hand.

>shondo
>shondo
>shondo
Real subtle

>>90697440
>Couldn't hit 7k in a 7 hour stream
GRIM.

>>90697421
So this is blatantly a symptom of the "new direction" Cover wants to take things in.

>>90697421
These guys are shitposting
>>90697518
This guy is a full retard though.

>>90697421
>Aki, Ao, Towa, Mori and Laplus
So the usual suspects, boring, give me new people to hate

>>90697498
Anon, things changed every time someone left...
You literally can't tell me the Hololive of today is the same as before those graduations.

>>90697498
They got complacent with the affiliate system.

>>90697405
Byebye fauna byebye sapcucks

>>90697440

>>90697420
>Mint
Holy hell you people are truly pathetic.

>Management: Fauna-san welcome to the new studio, here's some snacks
>Fauna: uuu~ that's nice. is it vegan though?
>Management: Of course, we heard about your specific diet
>Fauna: O-okay, I guess I'll try some....
>Management: We make sure to add a lot of cheese to this since Americans LOVE cheese right?
>Fauna: .....
>....
>Fauna: I've decided to graduate from hololive due to disagreements from the company

>>90697415
I think there's a giant crab bucket effect where anyone promising gets clung on and pulled 'up' by their new bigger friends, but it also caps their growth because there same culture and assumptions that cap the others starts applying to them
And if you go it alone, then people just don't raid you - which means they raid others and you get pushed down the list
It doesn't even have to be intentional, it's a function of how twitch exposure works

>>90697580
The only real shift was post Coco.

>>90697076
Infinite monkey theorem

>>90697420
share those posts
>Mint
Yeah I'm sure she's besties with all of HoloEN

>>90697421
Kek. Why can they shitposting without dramaniggers enter

>>90697580
And what exactly changed after Coco, Rushia, Mel, Aqua, and Ame's graduations?

>>90697617
Keep telling yourself that.

>>90697605
She displayed advanced knowledge of fauna leaving though. She doomposted on twitter

I cancelled my memberships and I won't buy any merch. I'll just watch whenever I feel like and have fun. No need to get overly invested. I'll do my part by giving likes and promoting them in social media.

>>90697612
i don't trust vegans for exactly this reason

>>90697420
Why the fuck would Mint know anything?

>>90697405
They probably already tried. They’ve had to make their peace with it.

I just found out Patra and Shondo are sisters.

>>90697568
talking about usual suspects, did botan find the mod boring or its because organizing a collab with this is hard?
https://youtu.be/U2KfAq_Bpow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSI70PQS1kg

who do you think has addressed the fauna situation the best so far?

>>90697646
Explain to me what changed post Ame or Aqua. Post Rushia is debatable since you can make a point about gachi stuff getting toned down but again not really.

>>90696833
So who gonna say it next? And would EN do it too?

>>90697705
No. The only person that can address the Fauna situation is Fauna. Listen to what she has to say or fuck off.

>>90697625
They have IDs
And also its functionally not anonymous for legal purposes

>>90697654
>I'll do my part by giving likes and promoting them in social media.
>anon turns into the average homo fan

>>90697625
they dont have SEAbros getting dopamine from trolling, also they have emojis

>>90696893
>IM

[Sad News]

https://x.com/otonosekanade/status/1863477024477843775

>>90697743
And she won't say anything and let mobs attack everyone except her

https://x.com/otonosekanade/status/1863477024477843775

>>90697729
Yeah, keep telling yourself that.

>>90697625
The ban system actually works for starters.

>>90697705
After watching everyone I can say that it's equal.

>>90696565
Likely only Gura Mumei and maybe Nerissa know

>>90697036
Filium

>>90697805
Then they must be shit people if they can't make a single defense against a literal nothing statement.

>>90697815
>non response
Concession accepted I guess.

Man, if you had told me a year ago the last one standing from SNOT would be Kronii I'd think you're a fucking moron.

>>90697804
>>90697810
Kek this retard made me laugh

>>90697810
Does her manager need to take care of her personal finances too?

>>90697654
Never membered anyone, never bought merc (what am I going to do with all that shit?). I do buy concert tickets though, and I'll keep doing that when there's something I want to see.

damn yagoo got divorced?

>>90697421
god damnit let us post emojis!

>>90696912
FWMC are the biggest bootlickers and the biggest merch machine
they will never leave

>>90697743
nah, this show the differences, hololive changed a lot during those 5 years and the 2 years Fauna was in

>>90697765
I'll watch VCR for the first time ever today. I have a feeling people here are full of shit. Need to see for myself.

I get the impression that Fauna clarified nothing if people are still attacking the talents

>235 posts at this hour
>30 min old thread
Who's raiding us now?

>>90696912
FwMc, Raora & CC have mentioned staying for a long time

>>90697625
Because they aren't fully anonymous, between IDs and legal action actually being able to result in you getting singled out and getting sued, it means that they don't have the same level of things that allow for the most worthless of dregs to get away with repeated nonsense without consequences.

AYANE SHILLING MEN'S RAZORS DORYAAAA

>>90697654
Same. The only merch I'll probably grab is Fauna's last one (hopefuly it's a MILF hat rerun, I want to buy like 3 more). After that I'll probably only show up for tourist streams, but I'm done with Holo.

>>90697705
>Shiori said being in Hololive is great
>Shiori has experience working for the blackest of the black as far as bad management goes
Yeah, it was Shiori considering her history. She has perspective. Bae's statement was also really good and I guess she has perspective working for an actual black company as well.

>>90697810
Not even Aqua is this retarded

Cover's stock status?

>>90697944
Believe it or not it's been a really productive conversation so far.

>>90697886
W-we still have SNORyS!

>>90697957
Hairy oni

>>90697868
>it's literal nothing statement
>it tells cover is black company
Which one is correct

Is the "Broken Promise" musical still happening?

https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1843856445906796837

>>90697980
You samefagging and spamming on cooldown with yourself isn't a discussion

Everyone's busy with drama and won't notice sex hebe post.

>>90697938
I think we’re currently at the point where schizos would ignore or twist her clarification to justify continuing their attacks.

>>90696912
Clown

https://youtu.be/jjEtuH7KnSc

>>90697893
he came out as gay

>>90697946
FWMC and Raora are workaholics. CC I doubt she's gonna stay for long, she's already really inconsistent.

>>90697886
/#/ has a horrible track record with picking favorites, of the much pushed SNOrys the only who seems to be on solid ground is IRyS.

>>90697892
Congrats, you're supporting Cover's new direction of "Streaming bad, concert good"

Man looking back ame really did have a near perfect graduation tour it felt like a nice somber celebration of her legacy, maybe fauna's will get better near the end but the early reactions aren't looking great

>>90697036
Yea, Hololive is the golden standard.

>>90697938
>attacking the talents
the fuck? Which talents are they attacking?

>>90697421
FUCK for a second I thought Kanata was among those who joined the VCR...

>>90698021
This girl build for ryona indeed

>>90697946
a "long time" is looking like 4 years at most. also there's no way cc is here longer than 3-4 I'm gonna be honest the rest if justice looks long term though

>>90698021
>posting skeletons in december

So nijigold today?

>>90698095
she's so skinny, she'll immediately die after giving birth

>>90698026
that's when she wasn't being as slammed with homework as she is now

she said she wasn't thinking of leaving "as long as nothing happens"

>>90698079
Ame has always been the better girl than Fauna. Despite what saplings tries to say otherwise.

>>90698021

>>90698094
Kanatan is having an offcollab with Lamy tomorrow where they will play rhytm heaven fever and then they'll have a sleepover

Who?

>>90696062
Kronii wouldn't defend management but she also doesn't give a fuck about fauna anymore

>>90697944
Judging by the vocab, ennacuck, faunaschizo/shondofag, and probably two devices each.

>>90698154
Sukuna can snatch it.

>>90698206
Kronii would only defend Kroma

>>90697036
more like it makes it way easier for them to leech now

>>90698120
3-4 years sounds like a perfectly reasonable time to be in an idol group

>>90697378
isn't that one Aqua's mama or something??

>>90698221
Will he kill Gojo too while he's at it?

>>90698170
SF6?

Is there any hope for Fauna to cancel her graduation?

>>90698154
>Sakuna Birthday stream later
looks like we'll get to see the legendary NijiKiller in action once again

>>90696834
>>81111804
>>87207796
Sometime between those two posts.

>>90698121
Too sexy, can't be helped.

>>90698285
She's a stubborn woman, so no. I don't even think management doing a 180 and agreeing to her terms will make her change her mind.

>>90698225
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keGyzdbRkBo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA9H67MnC3g

>>90698042
How is CC inconsistent? She mostly sticks to her schedule, her main fault is delaying stream starts, and she's not nearly as bad as girls like Mumei with that.

>>90697240
I blame the audience itself. Twitch has a very specific demographic that skews young and culturally Western. Vtubers are always going to be looked down on by the vast majority of their userbase. The only audience receptive to them out the gate are Japanese users, which only make up a very low percentage of the overall Twitch sphere.

Yea I am still enjoying Hololive.

>>90698281
Kek I forgot about her

>>90698235
Leeching doesn't work in this case, holofans, in this case, ex holo fans have been trained for years in watching only holo, the Dooby collab showed the limits of how far they can leech. Filian was sub her average, Bao got a negative tourism pull and the only one getting a boost was Dooki (the only one on YT) just because Dooby had no frame. you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

>>90698334
based deadbeat

Someone is speculating maybe Faunaschizo was someone from the company because his lunacy went into overdrive a few days before the announcement was made. It would be crazy if someone in the company hated Fauna that much

>>90697440
Ennacuck predicted Fauna's graduation
Kneel to Shondo

>>90698399
>Twitch has a very specific demographic that skews young and culturally Western
Don't forget overwhelmingly liberal

As long as Pekora and Miko are still in hololive, I will keep watching hololive.

>>90698399
I'm surprised Spanish is so low. Below German?

>>90698285
Only if it’s a fakeout to promote the Promise Musical.

>>90698010
This is almost certainly their -goodbye fauna- project, given the timing, and they all would've known she was planning on leaving when this was announced.

y'all really forgot about Chloe huh

>>90697944
Who wouldn't be right now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zGRQj-H--M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zGRQj-H--M

>>90698509
EOP thread
EOP board

>>90698334
Who is she? At least tell who this is

>>90698509
Chloe was never popular here, anons just liked her model.

>>90698225
Well yes, Kroma is miles better than whoever she had before, and maybe if Fauna had a better personal manager, things wouldn't have come to what they have, but she appears to been too much of a doormat to kick the useless manager to the curb, so here we are now.

Pippachama...

>>90698425
ame isn't gonna buff a twitchtuber desu, she was pretty much fully reliant on the holobox and still is. fauna will probably be much more popular on twitch since she's pretty popular in normalfag circles

>>90698399
The screwed up thing is also the irony-infused culture which allows for doublethink
Where streamers will blare WEEBS OUT but also have no problem talking about watching manga and anime with their chat
So it effectively leads to a situation where anything Japanese is derided as cringe unless its what their favorite streamer is consuming, in which case its okay because 'its a meme haha we don't hate Japanese stuff'
But effectively what it does is just terminate discussion at the meme level because people will spam and derail it

>>90698285
Doubtful, if there was, it would've needed to have happened months ago when this was requested, not after she announced the graduation.

Any anons autistic enough to pull up Chammers’ steam friend list?

>>90698618
wait dramafags told me hololive is done, why isn't she inclining?

>>90698285
why would she want to?

>>90698641
Doubt, the people you are talking about were clip watchers at best.

Making the most of the final month of FauMint!

>>90698509
Those orphan losers were still talking about indies during the kino KoyoKuro karaoke yesterday so of course nobody will take them seriously.

>>90698618
damn, she's reclining faster than i thought, does LAM have bad luck or what?

>>90698399
what is the source of that? there is no way Spanish is that low.

https://x.com/amanekanatach/status/1863476438646903149
Kanata will have a marshmallow stream addressing some of the concerns lately

>>90698723
Lemonmint soon fellow sapling!

>>90696475
qrd?

>>90698773
Management bootlicker

>>90698618
Why did pippa recline? Pretty sure she was averaging 4-5k early this year and now she's at 2-3k

>>90698566
Shinosawa Hiro, 15yo idolm@ster girl.

>>90698618
The fake outrage over fauna didn't help her in any way, Oh well bummer I guess

>>90697612
It was the impossible cheese

>>90698723
I guess this explains who's raiding this thread, despite it being well outside your normal raiding time slot

>>90698847
Thank you anon, and btw can I have the link/sauce to this and the previous one?

>>90698509
Chloe doesn't create drama

>>90698752
https://twitchtracker.com/languages
Keep in mind, this is a 7 day average.

Pack it up, Kanade

>>90698814
>Kanata
>bootlicker
Retard

I hope they all leave, cover has done nothing for promise, they're better off as indies

>>90698899
https://x.com/Anonimax_True/status/1862033795072868595?t=_M9lEbFHYzRs7tBBjiXg9Q&s=19

>>90698976
>they're better off as indies
>better
>indie

>>90698925
These fuckers has become but i dont see any lamy transformations???

>>90697731
Well like FWMC today they're basically saying they're busy, but it's by choice. Things like fes are optional but they still wanna do them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSI70PQS1kg
based shiori

>>90698925
What the hell is that replies

>>90698976
One day

kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwn8WzWzfgw

>>90698978
Thank you very much~

>>90699015
they're already set for life, there's nothing to lose

>>90699078
Shiori being one of the most stable holos wasn't something I expected but I totally welcome

>>90697498
This.
If a fucking First Army member graduating didn't change anything, nothing will.

>>90699152
>you will never see interacting with the other talents again
>you will never see FES again
That's already something to lose, at least for me.

After some contemplation, I feel like Gura is actually NOT going to graduate anytime soon. How both Ame and Fauna graduated reflects different self interest and goals. Ame went affiliate because she knows she can be lazy and will fall off the indie stream grind. Therefore she keeps a foot in the door. Fauna has no problem with grinding streams out, so she feels better about keeping any audience that follows her out the door. Gura doesn't seem to like streaming, at least not consistently. Why leave if you can make money for minimal work to focus on other things? She knows she can't keep up the workload needed to make money as an indie streaming. Mumei I'm less sure about. She may be close to Fauna, but that doesn't mean you follow your friend out the door if your situation isn't as bad. With HoloFES tickets on sale likely soon, you won't see any more graduations until April.

>>90699078
There is your answer drama fag now go away.

Fauna made her announcement as if, or at least can easily be construed, as she was forced out by management.
But bae's address of the matter clearly implies that Fauna has other options but chose to graduate instead citing "If that what makes her happy"
Thoughts?

We don't need HoloSTARS wa have Azki STAR
https://x.com/G_dA_Zo/status/1863183787263447514
https://x.com/G_dA_Zo/status/1863183787263447514
https://x.com/G_dA_Zo/status/1863183787263447514

>>90699078
>>90699157
Remember that Shiori has experience actually working for a black company with a black manager. She knows what she is talking about.

>>90699093
Shit, semi funny translation.

>>90699253
Multiples holos said similar things to Bae, including some who never hesitated to shit on management (IE : Kiara)
I will trust them on this

>>90699078
Dealing Cover's management is unironically better than dealing Eilene

>>90699233
The full list is
Gura
Ina
Mumei
Kronii
Fauna
Nerissa

I see we’re already at acceptance stage in less than 24 hours

>>90698806
Guess no qrd thenmdjamv

>>90699334
I flip flop between anger and acceptance

>>90699204
ONE first army isn't really enough to seriously shake the foundations of Hololive. You'd need at least HALF of the current First Army roster leaving Hololive for some real shit to happen

>>90699233
>Fauna has no problem with grinding streams out
>Ceres "11H average/week" Fauna
Sure.

Where are the ai songs for fantafeet? Is that brownfaggot not schizo enough?

>/#/ in a few years
>Well, in hindsight it was Fauna's own fault, anyway today is [NEW HOLO MEMBER] 3D debut, prediction?

>>90697204
similar to last time,
by schizo vague posting on her other account

>>90699359
same kek

>>90699204
Eh, Aqua was more of a legacy first army member. She wasn't near on the level of Miko, Pekora, and Marine.

>>90699368
uh oh melty melty

>>90696833
in the past foobs was forced to take vacations several times bc the woman is a hardcore workaholic

>>90699253
Isn't that pretty much what all EN girls have said about the situation.

>>90699379
Rape hebes

>>90699152
>they're already set for life, there's nothing to lose
ID, JP and EN girls playing together. The peak of cgdct.

>>90699373
>/#/ in a few years
>LL gone... now what
>LL sure was cute today
>stupid sapkeks with their stupid sapfaces? punch punch punch?

>>90699405
>this job is easy
>NO YOU'RE WORKING TO DEATH
Pick one.

>>90699385
>She wasn't near on the level of Miko, Pekora, and Marine.
>literally holds the number 1 and number 3 record for highest ccv for a solo vtuber stream in the entire vtubing history

>>90697810

>>90699253
Fauna's personal manager sounds like she was completely useless and Fauna didn't fight to get a new manager, contrast it with Kronii, who clearly didn't like her previous manager but would fucking step up in a fist fight for Kroma.
What can you do in such a case where you don't choose to stand your ground?

>>90699373
The truth often hurt sapcuck

>>90699385
This thread is really schizophrenic when talking about Aqua, don't get me wrong I agree with you which is why when hearing shit like
>she was the only one being able to compete with Miko and Peko
makes me laugh, compete with Miko? Maybe 3 years ago.

>>90699456
You are massively retarded

>>90699478
says the retard

>fauna's lying, because others said management good
>thing's didn't change, no i won't believe them when they said they did
ya'll just pulling shit out of your ass now

>>90699233
Mumei and Gura could either graduate tomorrow or stay in Hololive for another five years and neither possibility would surprise me.

>>90699253
>easily construed by
That's the keyword anon.
Fauna and Bae's statement doesn't necessarily contradicts each other if you don't horribly interpret it

>>90699373
>a few years
more like a few months

>>90699253
I think ESL's shouldn't be trying to debate the finer points of English

>>90699368
Hours streamed is a poor metric to go by. Stream consistency as an indie (on Youtube) is more important. On Twitch you need both consistency and to grind out long hours.

>>90699506
Basically, yeah.

>>90699464
I mean, the company COULD have been proactive about protecting a multi-million dollar asset. You fucking think? This isn't a "small indie company pls undahstand" anymore.

>>90699379
SEX!

If Fauna got put in her cuck box separated from her gen in Ame's aquarium.
What does this say about Shiori?

Will Saplings end up like Tatsunoko?

sometimes i wonder if we have irl schizos that hear stuff nobody said

how???

Fauna chose to abandon her Saplings and friends to chase drama indie clout all because Dokishill got in her ear about leaving "da ebil corpo"

>>90699508
You know what else Bae's statement is? Damage control.
>Just be calm and consoom, guys! Things are fine!

Saplings are so easy to be manipulated emotionally

>>90699506
Completely agree with this.

>>90699577
>i wonder
You dont need to wonder.

>>90699373
I'm telling you any doubts about holo are going disappear overnight the moment they announce EN5

>>90699464
You run away, which is what she did if this manager rrat contains any truth.

Wait if Shiori said that nobody is forced to do anything then why the fuck did Fauna leave?

>>90699544
I agree, and Fauna probably thought so too and thus, she chose to graduate.
Nonetheless, if I HAD the choice to fire a personal manager and I didn't like said personal manager, I would exercise that option first and foremost before taking any more drastic moves.

>>90699596
wait, Cover doesn't help with their taxes?

>>90699569
Move to biboo or disappear. Fuck indies.

>>90699506
yeah i can see that too

>>90699334
talents have accepted it, and how many people have other talents as their oshi?

>>90699253
>Affiliate option

>>90699598
>Watch streams
That's a good statement, I don't see the problem.

>>90699577
selenfag is 100% a real life schizophrenic