/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

>The decision has been made to postpone the event due to management's discretion.
oh noooooooo

marine soon!

>>90689340
3D lives, voice packs, longer streams, ASMR, she wanted to do all of that but was shot down by management

EVERYTHING IS FALLING APART

>>90689640
oh shit, im the OP of /#/?

Even some nips are trying to get Fauna to 1million before she leaves.

>>90689682
I thought there were forcing talents to overwork? Why are they taking care of Iroha's health???

>Fauna, a vegan, graduates
>IRyS has been posting about watching videos about eating meat and posting pictures of meat she ate all day
Why is IRyS like this?

>>90689739
Because JP talents are worth more than EN talents?

>>90689695
Don't be a needy bitch and get over it everyone else did

I'm still undecided on my stance, so here's my game plan:
>if fauna collabs with whores/turns into a whore, then side with cover
>if fauna is the same as always, then side with fauna
Thoughts?

>saplings are the only ones making new threads now

I love Hololive but, I'll watch Fauna wherever she ends up and continue loving and supporting the members of HoloEN in their current and future identities. I'm sorry it has to be this way.

>>90689763
Could be a coping mechanism.

>>90689739
>cancelling an event Chloe is in, who also mentioned management

>>90689695
Nice falseflagger. Could’ve fooled some naive anons into attacking Fauna / saplings

>>90689786
She already followed the orc on her own

> You're voice has been heard
>Your wish had been granted

>>90689739
Iroha lost her voice literally due to stress

At what point do people start mass unsubscribing from the holo girls channels like with what happened to nijien?

>>90689813
Retard it's just a five minute stream, watch it, she says she loves everything about the job and wants to do more of it.

>>90689786
If she collabs with whores it's whatever, honestly. I'm so far gone I just don't care anymore, I just need her fun banter and giggles.

>>90689735
with what? bots?

>>90689739
Why wouldn't they? After all the shits got thrown to them past few days kek.
That being said, those live usually prerecorded so idk why they had to cancel it.

>>90689739
they've already been burned enough so they're going to try to bring back the goodwill.
>so we postponed the event in consideration of Iroha's health. see? we care!

>>90689786
I wont pretend I watched her, but she was very cute when she interacted with my oshi, if she somehow stays the same as she was in holo then yeah have fun, happy for you.

>>90689964
people like you are the problem

>>90689924
Promise would need to come together and throw Fauna under the bus entirely.

>>90689924
At the point someone commits self harm, blames bullying and harassment, a black screen stream occurs admitting to harassment and bullying from both management and talents.

>>90689800
same desu

>>90689924
The problem is with cover, not the girls

>>90689811
IRyS did say she likes eating when she is stressed, so yeah, could be
Or more likely she just had a fun steak night with mane chan after finished her recording streak (3 days in a row) and wanted to tell 'crats about it

Branch average will plummet after this...

>>90690003
>finally organize an event
>management: nah
Could they be any more tone deaf? Or even being the exact example people are calling out? lmao It would have been okay for Iroha to say, "throat hort," jokes aside.

no wonder Nene likes beetles, this shit looks cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZNOSI9hhZk

>>90689924
Chinkout 2.0?

>>90690030
That's not good enough, considering Kronii's and Bae's track records. Gonna need more than her entire gen doing that.

Where is gura

>>90689811
Watch when IRyS streams and says the same things as the other girls and anons then pit one thread favorite against another.

https://x.com/gigimurin/status/1863444397582598503
Path of Exile

This reminds me of that fag that wrote the huge blogpost about how perfect Hololive is and had a huge meltdown over Nijisanji being better because they don't do the right thing. This is basically a dream come true for people like him. The tiniest crack in Hololives armor. They'll do their best to pry it open because this is likely the only chance they have.

>>90689964
I miss the silliness of the old days when everybody just hung out before holo became so fragmented. Is it wrong that I preferred promyth during Covid before they got their 3D and the homos? It felt like EN was just so unified then and happy.

Bring me back to the stupid frogs during Halloween… I’m going to cry.

>>90689924
Cover version of this

In the end seems like we are the same holobros your acting the same way we did early this year after all that gloating.

>>90689950
Wanting to do something is meaningless if you don’t want to put efforts into them.
If she wanted to do 3Ds, for example, she would have travelled to JP more than once a year.

>>90690084
There's a reason why tons of kids show and kids toy content in Japan and Asia is themed after beetles and insects
Pokémon became a thing because the creator liked catching bugs as a kid.

>>90690183
So how can we do it? Just hack the channel and record some AI voice?

>>90689786
She is almost certainly going full Twitch, she watches and admires many of those people already.

graduations into pekora potentially losing the game awards its looking grim

>>90690166
Holy shit I'm in.

>>90690183
It feels like they're barely two steps from that. The other girls' responses are softer, but cover the screen with a black piece of paper and, you fucking know, it does sound like some tossing-under-the-bus-shit.

>>90690187
Oh fucking please. That chuuba would still be a fucking no name if a corpo didn't get them.

>>90690244
Yup get on it monkey

>Fwmc: The average lifespawn of an Idol is 2 years
Is it true?

>>90689786
If she streams mainly on Twitch or does male collabs, I'm done with her forever.

>>90690296
Why was I called a nijinigger when I said this about Doki

>>90690296
It's YOU that LEFT, not THEM

Fauna's gained over 20k subs in the past 24 hours. Can she actually make it to 1 million.

>>90690138
>vshjoo
kek i understood that reference

>>90690244
Have you considered just jerking off then rethinking your plan?

>>90690187
She's one of the few that can say this and be proven true, while the rest of her girlies are barely scrapping by, wild shit.

>>90690244
>Just hack the channel
As if you have the brain capacity to do it.

>>90690185
>we are the same
Nah, I'm not supporting people that pushed someone to attempt suicide, even after learning about that information.
There's a vast difference between you and I.
I have God on my side and you are hellbound.

>>90690331
it is, it's just not a particularly high success conversion rate career route, like most entertainment prospects

>open a response stream
>turn of monitor to make a black screen
Tell me that shit isn't borderline Nijisanji.

>>90690279
So far Biboo and Raora's are like, the only one that didn't sound like that. Fuck ERB though

I can't stop smiling, /#/bros
I feel vindicated

>>90690244
Need to do it soon since the window is closing fast. The tide has already been turning on both /vt/ and reddit so the only place that is still largely in anti-Holo mode is Twitter, and even they might switch in a few days too

>>90690370
ESL here, but I still don't understand this kson phrase about

>>90690296
shhh, don't explain the obvious, it makes liggers seethe

>>90690370
Fuck off kson. Get your fat ass back on the treadmill.

>>90690331
9-14 jr idol, 15-17 idol, 18+ JAV idol hag.

>>90689924
successful nijisisters plans to get brainless holofags to do their bidding

>>90690331
Thought it can be shorter, like i'm surprised an average NBA player has a career lifespan nearly 5 years.

>>90690455
Yeah, when you really think about it, it's almost the same fucking pattern with Kurosanji, just not as harsh. Fuck man.

>>90689786
>collabs with whores
rigged game. you and i both know shondo is gonna collab with her.

>>90689924
It's kind of funny and sad at the same time that nijifans (and others) are salivating waiting for this to happen. It obviously won't though because the situation is completely different and nowhere near as bad as a talent attempting suicide and having a bunch of organs making a black screen stream saying it's her own fault.

/#/bros I am retarded and brown, what's my opinion on the current shenanigans?

>>90690404
it's not shondos fault her girlies can't leech off of her enough

>>90689950
Then why didn't she do more of it? There was over a year between her 3D debut and now. In that period every single EN of the first two gens had one or more individual 3D live... except Fauna and Ame. Seems like a pattern here.

>>90690321
>>90690401
>>90690428
>>90690483
damn, it didn't take much to rile them up today, holofags are usually calm during yabs

>>90690247
>>90690341
I don't understand this. Sure she moves to twitch but what's the issue when you can just sub and get no ads, unless you weren't membered to her in the first place.

>>90689924
Well, if we're doing a 1-for-1 on Kurosanji? They'd need a "negligible" statement to come out and a blackscreen equivalent (though we already have some talents throwing Fauna under the bus).
If they had ANY BRAINS at all, Cover would fucking tuck their tail between their legs and go hide for a year.

>>90690341
>male collabs
i will allow NL collab though. he's married and fauna isn't a homewrecker so she has no chance

>>90690404
basically another "works on my PC"

>>90690484
>I didn't leave you, you left me.
>I didn't break up with you, you broke up with me.
>I didn't change, you did.

>>90690562
>retarded and brown
Who the fuck told you to go to the internet?

>>90690185
cover didn't drive a talent to nearly kill themselves

>>90690619
Isn't this just cope from her?

>>90690638
That we know of, though some of them have already admitted to developing pretty severe depression.

>>90690296
Fauna isn't talented enough to market herself and needed a million dollar brand to artificially boost her popularity because she has no redeeming set of skills herself? sounds about right.

>>90690162
It’s unfortunately something I already expect will happen.

I have brain chemical imbalances and mental problems from environmental toxins in my environment growing up, holokeks, and I'm going to make it your problem

>>90690577
>Go to Japan
>record 16 performances
>your own 3D live got fucked by managerial bullshit where they rescinded the perms of a song and you had to fight to fit in your orisong you initially didn't want to put there so that your 3D isn't cut short
>Get sick
>Burn out
>Don't feel like fighting again for the 3D live so take a break from doing one for your birthday
>Somewhere along the line you decide to graduate

She's also in the Promise Musical, there's your fucking anni live.

>>90689786
Or how bout this.
>You, go fuck yourself and I do what I want.

>>90689640
AnyColor Q2 in a few weeks?

>>90690331
It is. Being an idol is exhausting and youth-consuming. If you can’t make it big within a few years (which 99.99% of them can’t), you might as well call it and study or get an actual job.

>>90690331
For reference akb48 has had over 400 graduations over 20 years

>>90690568
Why should they leech of her? Shondo's viewers are there to watch a schizo breaking down on stream and spout out some wild shit.

>>90690689
I wasn't telling you to do anything, it was very clearly (My) game plan lol ESLbrown schizo.

>>90690527
You can stop samefagging now.

>>90690728
For a reminder, Cover was never a real idol company, and they shouldn't have tried to.

>>90690658
Definitely, if she can't recognize the importance of her environment and her colleagues in her content, then it's a failure on her part as well.

>>90690728
Truly blacker company than Cover

>>90690331
The average career length of an actor is 10 years, though successful ones can go for up to 30 years. The question becomes are Vtubers idols, or just an actor playing a character who is an idol?

>>90690667
i haven't seen any holo RM post an image of their hospital band

>>90690658
yes

>>90690761
You can stop crying.

>>90690658
Pretty much

>>90690757
You need to fuck off is all that really matters in the scenario. No one gives a shit about your future plans or your blog.

>>90690450
>>90690515
>>90690520
>>90690704
Holy shit it's a very short career

>>90690638
didn't drive A talent. they drove at least two:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLRDVCAQ6m0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o5OUWgWgIU
and i'm not even counting nene who had to be institutionalized.

They could have simply talked it out with Fauna and asked her to explain.
Instead, they decided to side with management.

>>90690279
Bullshit. This is nothing like the Selen shit, there's no termination, no sin list, and the girls aren't saying anything worse than they did when Sana left. Fauna gets to stream for a month and tie up lose ends. You just want drama.

Am I the only one who feels like nobody is bothering to clip Flow Glow? These girls have debuted for nearly a month and my N99 ass still knows fuck all about any of them. What the fuck.

>ReGLOSS 3D Live Reach the Top
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIYvks57cQA
>1st Album "ReGLOSS"
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mchguozrz3dFDusBI-DFmOiDYdKew6Hb4
>Feeling Gradation *new*
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=u4uDiV3u-do

>セプテンバーさん / September-san (cover) *new*
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=OHQ-npgd2Ok
>快晴 / Kaisei (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=YA7QcvdHk70
>青と夏 / Ao To Natsu (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnAk_ZGfvdw
>青のすみか / Ao no Sumika (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=efF_c9D-R-A
>Bling-Bang-Bang-Born (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=vFDysagoQw0
>奏 / Kanade (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=VT1on_WaMzw
>My Dearest (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s
>DAYBREAK FRONTLINE (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg
>名前のない怪物 / Namae No Nai Kaibutsu (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

>Shunkan Heartbeat Otonose Kanade SOLO ver.
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnRwOG06UtI
>カバー曲 / Cover Songs
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUEA7yBOKxdRPdI4vYmL-dR
>歌まとめ / All Songs
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUogkBSe9WqTU0X1ia7xi_1

>>90690777
Vtuber is streamer
Hololive is streamer+idol

>>90690658
I mean, she had a great thing just coasting along and stay independent, but she just had to open her mouth and keep making bad takes. I can guarantee even her fans are content with that, even if she brought in her whore friends.

>>90690887
I said it wasn't as bad, but it's literally the same pattern developing. Don't care if you hate it. It's obvious.
Of course, they can clear the air any time they want. Will they?

>>90690515
>9-14
I thought they don't do that anymore. Wasn't there some law made against it?

>>90690185
Nah, we aren't defending self-admitted bullies, sexual harassers, and a company that drove their vtuber to attempt suicide twice.

>>90690888
clippers don't really make much money
to have people do free labor for you, there has to be passion and love. the new gens are so corporate and boring i can't imagine anyone being excited about them.

holokeks melty kek

>>90690888
Wait till VCR

>>90690880
none of them blamed cover for their own screwups, whereas doki made it pretty clear she was being bullied and management wasn't doing shit

>>90690869
No ones gives a shit about how mad you are lol dilate and eat your pagpag.

>>90690937
She can't help herself to become Vtuber Jesus

>>90690728
no wonder some of them turned JAV

>>90690887
Anon not a single one empathized with her or validated her management issue. They either "worked on my machine" or just deflected or just didn't mention it at all. Which is why you have people turning on Fauna herself

>>90690658
she mistakenly believes herself to be coco from hololive, because that's how she and her friends experienced it
the rest of us aren't really real to her

>>90690983
Even worse, the company self-reported with their own white paper.

>>90690983
forget blame. both attempts were directly due to their firing. in an alternative universe they both wouldn't have attempted

don't worry holochads

these graduations are
n e g l i g i b l e

>>90690828
>projecting this hard
Spamming false equivalences won’t make them true or make people here believe them, no matter how much you try.

>>90690877
because it's not even intended to be a "career", my dude
the assumption is that idol is a fledgling media personality that grows and moves into being a more professional vocalist, performer, actress, TV host etc.
ofc most don't crack it since entertainment filters massively, so they either go back to the usual wagie grind or, unable to deal with lack of attention and easy money, go into porn or chase alt-idol dreams

>>90690762
You would never get kino like all those solo lives, Fes or BD if they never cared about pushing idol line, and many members wouldn’t have joined

>>90689786
I don’t mind collabing with whores, like that mentally ill wannabe loli, that much, but turning into or streaming with males is a sign for me to call it quits.

What the fuck why are the Hololive talents more open in discussing what's happening? I honestly did not expect them to be like this. It's like they suddenly all got fed up and started fighting back against the doomposters or something. I understand EN and ID if they do that, different culture. But even the JP girls suddenly started barking back as well.

Did something happen behind the scenes or what?

Nothing makes me sad my heart is an ice cathedral. The way I deal with loss is pushing through it there's no other way. Namaste.

>>90690762
This, What did yagoo see when Suisei had those idols act as backup dancers for her? Make cover be like those idol agencies? What a fucking retard.

>>90691070
I'd rather have them stay and stream. More kino there than in some corpo-slop 3D they didn't even get right the first three years.

NEGLIGIBLE

>>90689948

>>90691050
ah but which corpo had a talent pin the blame on the company?

>>90690956
The only pattern you’re seeing is the one you’re drawing on a piece of paper trying to come up with how you can connect this to Niji.

>>90691083
You really think JP fans don't see the significance of 4 graduations within a very short time period? They had to address the rrats.

>>90690688
You act like other girls haven't had to fight for things and deal with disappointments, none of this is unique to Fauna.

>>90690877
Being an idol is the lowest rung of entertainer, their main selling point is their youth and cuteness. The end game for an idol is either become a musician/TV personality or marry someone rich.

>>90691083
or maybe 99% of them are genuinely happy with their contracts and don't understand why fans are so outraged?
fauna got very specifically fucked in the ass by her manager.

>>90691062
>elementary logic 101 buzzwords
kek and kek'd

The fuck is with the "negligible" posts?

>>90691083
Doomposting at the peak
They need to address it

>>90691083
Bunch of people, even their biggest clipper, calling out that "direction" bullshit.

>Just got home from a weekend overtime
>Biboo apartment-hunting done
That was quick. Hopefully it was the correct choice.

>>90689640
Sapkeks still crying about Fauna? Even though she got shatted by everyone for basically being a lazy bitch that shoved all the blame to management. Kekkers how pathetic.

>>90691187
nijisisters and being retarded. The usual

>>90691161
Your only defense is to call others crazy while pulling out tufts of your hair.

>>90691063
>Your Oshi graduate
>She gets gangbanged by Yakuza
Grim

>>90690559
>saying it's her own fault
It just gives off a similar vibe to this.

>>90691237
calling fauna lazy is a crazy angle

>>90691182
That manager? Me.

>>90691187
ESL Nijisis doesn't realize she's self owning

>>90690963
Probably not full blown idol shit, but there are some agencies that consist of underage prospects like that. One of them is anica.b_d.teddy on Instagram, she's 15 now but she's been in the entame industry for a while.

>>90691182
I'm the manager btw

Iroha is lazy.

>>90691270
LMAO all the proof says she is

>>90691261
It ain't even a vibe. That's what they're doing.

>>90691187
Nijiniggers projecting please understand

>>90691181
Looks like Pippa future

>>90691270
considering the regular work week is 40hrs and playing video games is barely work....yea

>>90691213
BASED BASED BASED

>>90691083
This is the first time two graduation announcements happened so close together, the combined effect takes its toll on them.

>>90691138

Trust a corporation, and you get what you deserve.

>>90691221
Biboo had an actual plan and gave Cover enough heads up to get things sorted with nip landlords

>>90691083
Lots of JP fans aren't happy either anon and they're vocal, Aqua's graduation was pretty hard on them and Chloe just graduated too, plus cover's new direction has yet to produce anything of worth despite all thel work the talents keep talking about.

>>90691034
No one is turning against Fauna outside of /here/ which is filled with shitposters. Most people just accepted that whatever the situation is, it isn’t universally bad as they initially thought and the "disagreement with management" is more nuanced than just "management bad"

>>90691270
LAUFFING

HoloSanji merger is complete.

>>90691185
>it’s buzzwords because I don’t like it!
kek

>>90691182
I fucked Fauna in her ass because I'm her manager

>>90689786
a random whore collab (except for Filian fuck her) here and there I really don't care
But if she goes full male collaber I'll have to go elsewhere, even if it's just one.

>>90691083
There's no precedent for 4 beloved and successful talents graduating in the space of a few months in Hololive, it's alarming.

>>90691165
That's the thing. Look, I'm just comparing it to other companies. Even when NijiEN was getting fucked over and over the JP side did not care at all. Even the JP fans.
But HoloJP fans? They themselves seemed to care enough that even the the HoloJP girls had to say something. First, to calm those that are actually fans, second, to snap at the doomposters and those that are trying to piggy back the negative train.

>>90691387
>Lots of JP fans aren't happy either anon and they're vocal
are they making a petition?

>>90691352
>Two years
Holy shit

Is he /here/

>>90691412
It's buzzwords because it objective IS buzzwords. But, it's hilarious how fast you ran to a fallacy to deflect after trying to invoke one, kek!

why has fauna only released 1 original song (that cover paid entirely for) and has done nothing else during her stay at holo? did she seriously not care at all?

>>90691447
Mass turnover is normal in niji. Holo on the other hand has had a near pristine record up until now.

I'm fully for ENsharts leaving Hololive and being full fledged Indie twitchthots. They are a disgrace to the actual idols in hololive. Get out from the hobby.

>Risu raids
>wow I still have so many SC to read
Damn Ela no need to flex on her like that

>>90691083
Did you miss what Mori said in her member stream before Fauna's announcement?

>>90691464

phasefan here
im going to need you holofags to get your shit together because i dont want to live in a world where liggers and vshojo are the face of vtubing

>>90691488
>near pristine record
Anon, their very first applicants are marred with tragedy. They've never had a pristine record.

>>90691249
Defense? You’re barely making an argument. I get that you’re disappointed that this isn’t a huge systemic problem that the girls are all chafing under, but projecting your own frustration over it onto me won’t change that.

>>90691340
comparing wagies doing mindless work 40 hours a week to make ends meet to creatives funding and getting their projects gutted or denied is pretty dumb. i say that as someone who works 40 hours a week

>>90691484
bro she said she likes being an idol are you calling her a liar

>>90691524
most people did, who the fuck has a Mori membership here

>>90691034
No one even knows what her management issue is. Fauna herself is being vague as fuck. You really expect the other girls to come out and talk about it when Fauna won't/can't? Maybe most of them don't even agree with her reasons for leaving. We accepted than Sana didn't like to stream, that Aqua hated paperwork, etc., so why do we need to pretend that Fauna is some martyr?

>>90691530
Don't worry, HoloFes will save us

>>90691484
Because she didn't like her singing and she really wanted to improve before she made another. It literally wasn't until recently where she'd take compliments to heart.

>>90691542
>I'll tell YOU what YOU think.
kekkity kekaroo

>>90691034
Disagreement with management can be a ton of different things, schizo neet-kun.

>>90691571
Me

>>90691552
she likes it but she doesn't actively go out of her way to do idol activities unless she was forced to

>all the girls that are leaving are all lazy and greedy and whores
>they can't handle the absolute mountain of work us elite vtubers do
>they are rejects!

>>90691546
fauna?? projects??? lol

>>90691464
I mean probably. He could have just said stop being a faggot and achieved the same goal though.

>>90691571
We like mori here

Hololive is collapsing.

I can't believe I lived long enough to see /#/ turn on Fauna. What a day. The culture of this thread is going to take a massive shift over the next month,

>>90691538
I said "near" pristine you illiterate ape.

>>90691582
>You really expect the other girls to come out and talk about it when Fauna won't/can't?
None of them can because of NDA, and none of them have dropped any real details.
Cover could easily clear this up by lifting the NDA for an exception post, but... here we are. They'd rather let people speculate and grimpost.

>>90691530
I don't want irl vtubers shit

>>90691464
Yipppeeee greeemssz

>>90691593
I don't remember anything about this year's Fes because it was so damn mid. I don't even remember the theme song for this year.

>>90691668
It wasn't even "near" you dumbass.

https://youtu.be/jFBVhtkAXOw
https://youtu.be/jFBVhtkAXOw
https://youtu.be/jFBVhtkAXOw
AYAME SHAVING

>>90691667
If you actually believed this you wouldn't be posting this twenty times a day

>>90691471
It’s a description of the drivel you spew out, and you’re just calling it buzzwords to deflect from the fact that you’re a disingenuous fuck.

>>90691672
literally nothing is nda related

>>90691582
Saying "I get why she's leaving, even though it sucks. I just hope she's happy in what she does. " is miles better than WORKS ON MY MACHINE BRO EVERYTHING WILL BE OK

>>90691083
Because the management does fuck all and let the members do it. Honestly, if anything else, fuck Cover for doing this kind of shit. They NEED a second A-Chan desperately for community management, and Nodoka clearly isn't ready.
They go back to the silent treatment while the fanbases are restless.

>>90689924
If Gura graduates it will happen.

>>90691667
you do realize you're going to end up making saplings spam the thread with lemonleaf to spite you, right..?

>>90691745
So they're vague because it's a... prank?

>>90691601
It’s not like you’re good at hiding it.

>>90691732
Everyone else disagrees with you, hence why merely 4 graduations is a big deal and caused such a response. Face the facts, not your feelings.

>>90691582
because this wasn't some wishy washy affiliate deal where she says she's happy with her time in hololive and ready to move on due to personal reasons, this is a hard graduation where she states she still wants to be in hololive and the sole reason she's graduating is because of management.

>>90691672
>Pls don't doompost.
>We're not gonna clarify why she's quiting though.
>We're also not gonna announce doing internal evaluation of management.
>Here's a bunch of talents as our pr shield don't mind our actual pr and communication staffs.

>>90691352
isn't this kinda bad?....

>>90691629
But they can absolutely join the twitchthots and work on meaningless shit. Ensharts rejoice!

>>90691753
100% this. They could have just admitted there were management problems (which is already a known established fact). Instead they had to try and make her look like a liar and crazy. Like WTF.

just how uninformed are shitposters kek

>>90691213
How fun is path of exile compared to diablo 4?

>>90691530
jews always win, sorry

>>90691730
Fuck you nigger do you not remember haachama's surprise appearance and the nekko dance or caveman kenzoku and all the other shit that happened

>>90690688
Kronii streams and handles all of that shit from the Americas just fine. Strange how all of a sudden this shit is an issue, but only for one American EN.
Your answer is something/somewhere else.

>>90691854
Just hope for the best scenario

>>90691815
Everyone agrees with me that Cover's track record is shit AND they agree the graduations are bad. You're just being a contrarian dipshit because your other shitposting angles failed.

>>90691083
yikes, this is hitting JP too? Fuck damn

>>90691848
DISHONORABLE
SHAME ON YOUR FAMILY 10 GENERATIONS DOWN
JAPANESE MUST SAVE FACE, WE ARE NEVER WRONG

>>90691352
Fuck...

>>90691667
The more things change the more they remain the same

>>90691859
Maybe she is a liar

>>90691882
I just remembered Haachama after posting, and Bae being ridiculous. But otherwise it was pretty forgetful. Still can't remember this year's theme song.

>>90691387
They've seen what happened to Iroha as well. Prior to her break, she often tweeted about being swamped with work and whatnot.

>>90689694
??? It should be Kobo or Fubuki next. Do you know how this works?

>>90691928
>moving goalposts
Yeah you lost.

>>90691667
You're still going huh. Was shitting in global not to your satisfaction

>>90691932
Shareholders definitely demanded a company-wide mandate.

>>90691658
not enough to give her money you don't

>>90691848
has anyone considered the rest of the talent are happy in hololive and don't want to see bad vibes

>>90691876
you GRIND
t. played PoE didnt finished bc pc went poof

>>90691995
Anon... You might be suffering from early onset dementia. Let's go have that checked out shall we?

>>90692016
>call you wrong on the exact same subject
>MUH GOALPOSTS
bot, learn concepts

>>90692011
>kobo
It will never be kobo because they release a figure along with the statue and they actually want to sell the figure

>>90692062
And we've seen this behavior before. Guess what? Didn't work out.

>>90692102
I trust both

>>90691957
>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/38100314_Psychogenic_aphonia_No_fixation_even_after_a_lengthy_period_of_aphonia
>Twenty-one patients recovered their voices
>6 even before their first medical examination
>13 after an average of 12 weeks
>2 patients after 2 and 3 years respectively.
>One patient who has been in psychiatric therapy for years

>>90691730
fake fan, fauna, roboco, and aquas performance will be imprinted in my mind forever

Is there PoE, but with anime graphic and R18 contents/mods?

>>90691427
honest question why do you hate Filian that bad to the point of shitting on ppl collabing with her? i could understand Plapper but whats up with Filian other than being cringe?

>>90692102
I trust no one. Especially not myself.

>>90692102
We love licking corpoboots /here/
TRUST HOLOLIVE. THEY ARE FAMILY.

>>90692028
I swapped my fauna membership for Mori's this month

Fauna will be remember as the woman who started the Holo resistance, someone with the guts to actually speak instead of being a bootlicker.

Sapkeks demanding the company to burn down just because a few idols couldn't take the new direction.

>>90692088
The subject is the amount of graduations required for people to consider it a big deal, illiterate ape.

>>90692062
Nah, they just want their post to be included in the next dramafag video, a few of the bad ones source from here.

>>90692011

>>90691882
Also Okayu's IS THAT REAL? moment

>>90692062
That doesn't mean one person didn't get shafted through one reason or another. All I'm asking is for empathy, not this cold ass deflection that most of them are doing.

>>90692102
>well-established reputation
I never thought I'd see the day where Nijisisters do Cover dicksucking to win an argument and target a non-collaber. But here we are.

>>90692156
I don't know why. You know they didn't pick amongst themselves to group up like that, right? It was management forced. It's as disingenuous as it gets.

let me repeat bootlicker 100000x more times, it will stick now shitskin friends!!!

>>90692102
My trust fully hinges on whether or not she turns into a whore.

>>90692102
fauna never said management bad though

>>90692062
Yes but don't mind management and pr being silent.

>>90691730
I don't remember anything about this year's Fes because i can't remember most of things

>>90692169
>employees can never be bad, only the company can

>>90692227
Yeah, because empathy worked so well when the mob is baying for blood

>>90692062
No, management is holding a gun to every single girl's head. The moment they step out of line Cover's yakuza hit men are going to show up and take them out. Not even Gura on her turnip farm in Florida or wherever is safe. They're really all crying inside and every word said on stream is a plea for help.

>>90692189
Now that's goal post moving. The subject was Cover's "near" pristine record. You can't even remember the same shit you typed, lmao, subhuman ape.

Nobody liked Fauna. She couldn't even be assed to reply to my oshi for a collab.

>>90691138
will cover reimburse iroha for destroying her throat (medically speaking not sexually)?

>>90692102
I will always shit on management to remind them that they are paid by the talents' revenues.
I don't need Fauna to remind me that.

>>90691034
No matter how much you wish for it, this will never ever be considered even remotely as bad as what happened to niji. You don't have a talent attempting suicide, you have a graduation and not a termination, you don't have Cover making a statement saying it's financially negligible, you don't have a black screen stream of the most retarded damage control in the history of vtubing.

>>90692026
Or Upper Management hit the panic button lol. Let's see them handle this

>>90692156
add robocco to the graduation list

>>90692227
If I'm Holo, why should I give her sympathy when her graduation announcement brings more trouble for me while her being protected because "CORPORATE SUCKS"

>>90692161
Demonoin maybe?

>>90692295
This, but unironically.
And it's not Cover. It's Cover's shareholders.

>>90692311
Doesn't have to be THAT bad to still be considered PRETTY FUCKING BAD. What happened at Niji was radioactive. What's happening now is still a massive fucking problem.

>>90692102
Not my oshi
Not my problem

>>90692300
No, it's always been about quantifying what a big deal means. It is an objective fact that 4 graduations were a big deal. I explained this by saying it's due to Cover's track record, where 4 in a short period of time is a massive amount relative to the historic total/frequency. You not only purposely omitted a word from my post to change the meaning, but still fail to understand what the core argument is. Don't reply to me again, pagpag.

Oh Fwmc ticked

>>90692162
Filian collabs with everyone, and makes people on both sides mad. She's also kinda annoying in collabs

>faunaschizo and saplingschizo won

>>90692280
Go to bed cover intern

>>90691667
If you tell a lie long enough, it still won't become true

>>90692400
>can't even click backlinks to even re-read his posts
>calls others pagpag because those words hurt him the worst
Ook, ook, bitch.

>>90692302
Is it possible that the Faunaschizo was part of management all along? Given how many fucking times he increased his posts in every thread at the catalog just days before.

>>90692062
fuck toxic positivity, that shit is cancer and why I went out of my way to burn Niji to the ground. While this situation is not the same and the girls are not villianizing or downplaying Fauna's experiences, the toxic positivity prevents management from fixing problems.

When management gets complacent, nothing gets fixed because they think it's okay. Fuck that, this is a red flag for hololive as a whole and how they address this will make or break all of the girl's futures.

>>90692302
Maybe they'll pay her medical bill

>>90692426
Only took 3 years of Fauna doing nothing for Cover to kick her ass out of Hololive

>>90692218
Proportions seem off, she doesn't look enough like a midget.

>>90692227
Fauna's wording created a mob so the girls had to defend management to keep the crowd from trying to cancel Cover. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the girls were legitimately pissed at Fauna for doing that on the way out.

Fauna is a lazy whore. fucking pretending her wifi got cut off mid of mario tourney to end her stream. Not the first time sapcucks.

>>90691636
she had several attempts like her ttrpg
too bad cover fucked her dice

>>90691882
to be fair Capture the Moment (the song) was kinda meh compared to OBP etc. Also the units were just kinda
>wtf
though fun

>>90692341
This is exactly the reason nijisisters turn on everyone who leaves. "It makes us look bad."

>>90692426
And their prize? Nothing but a wasteland. Kings of the trash heap.

>if the post has an extreme opinion, sounds sarcastic or sardonic, or shits on a holo, it's a shitpost
any other good heuristics for skimming these shit heap threads?

This will never be a Koseki thread. FYI.

>>90692102
I can choose not to "trust" either side and realize that sometimes things just don't work out for morally gray reasons.
Disagreement with management can mean virtually anything.
At this point, the best course of action is to see her off with a (teary) smile after she makes some more memories with her friends.

I'm willing to believe the girls who say that problems with management vary from talent to talent and that maybe Fauna problems were her own, but if more girls leave next year citing the same reasons, I will become a Cover anti.

if faunas old manager gets fired and they hire her a new one she can come back, she hasn't graduated yet

>>90692508
Yawn. Very work intensive desune

>>90692488
I keep on forgetting that Marine is really short.

>>90692503
They can be pissed all they want, if they actually are. (I don't think they are, I'm betting they're just worried about income.)
But they're defending management against things they, themselves, had said at one point or another, many times. That the public already knows. That we suspect is a company mandate.

We also believe you're SEA. So go suck a dick.

>>90690877
Being an idol is just a starting point of your entertainment career, after gain enough popularity idol would transfer into more long term career like singer, acting, VA, variety show host, influencer and if you don’t have the popularity then it is better to focus school and other real life career.

>>90692449
>ignores the entire argument
>gets mad at "pagpag" specifically
lol, lmao even
You know the first insult I threw at you was "illiterate ape" right? Pagpag is just an adjacent insult. So on top of omitting words to change the meaning and moving goalposts, you're also projecting your inability to remember and re-read posts. We're done here, it's a total pagpag loss for you.

>>90692469
This is the biggest issue. Retards will keep defending the company and the company will keep doing the same shit because they get a free pass.

>>90691034
You've been trying this all day. "Worked on my machine", copy pasted a dozen times. No one's falling for your obvious holo vs holo attempts. At least come up with a new catch phrase.
They are simply reassuring their worried fans that they're not quitting next by saying they personally are doing fine and haven't had major issues with their managers. That's their personal experience, just as valid as Fauna's is. Same thing every talent does for shocking graduations like this, reassure their fans. They can't say specific shit about Fauna's issue or comment on it when she herself isn't, they're probably all under NDA about specifics anyway. All they can do is reassure their fans, and say nice things about Fauna and tell fans to support her last month, which they all did.
They're all still friends with Fauna. Fauna literally said she loves all the talent. They're all going to collab with her a bunch over the next month and have fun while you reeeeee here over and over desperately hoping for holo vs holo based on fucking nothing.

>>90692565
Anon, Fauna is stubborn. She made her decision, she won't take it back.

>>90692455
didn't meant to reply to that

>>90692503
they should direct their anger at the source that made Fauna quit like this: management.

>Fauna doesn't want to fly out to Japan or do extra work outside of just streaming
>"MANAGEMENT BAD MANAGEMENT BAD"
???????? make it make sense

>>90692549
>t.smallcock

>>90692565
Go back VShojo trash

Fauna

>>90692153
IDK what you were talking about but looks like it's working out pretty well here.
Why else do you think /vt/ and reddit no longer call for Cover's head?

>>90692352
I been wanting to play that game, but my aversion to reading sushi is a greater factor :(

>>90692516
Honestly my main problem is that I have trouble differentiating between what happened during OBP and what happened during CTM, I didn't bring up the Bae JDON my soul or gurashion's San loss because the memories genuinely blend together

Fauna won
Kiara lost

>>90692592
>>ignores the entire argument
That's my line.

>gets mad at "pagpag" specifically
>used it because it hurts him the most
>now fixates on it

ook ook, monkey, dance for me
is the tagaling next?

>>90691182
All of them clearly understand why fans are outraged though, which is precisely why they're trying to assuage their concerns.

>>90692578
She also has a giant fucking head relative to her size.

>>90692609
Truly hilarious. This is why white woman are being pass over by passport bros.

>>90692565
As a general rule the moment they make the announcement they can't take it back, it cheapens it otherwise

>>90692503
Why is it always a black and white world for you SEAniggers?

Fauna sacrificed herself to save the girls and Hololive while you bitches keep shitting on her. You should be thankful instead fags.

>>90692641
>i pretend not to see it
You want to play dumb? Your call. No skin off my back.

I see the shit stirrers are trying desperately to play both sides.

>>90692655
>more projection
You're the one who specifically called out "pagpag" even though we've both been flinging other insults all this time. (You) are the one who focused on that one specifically all of a sudden, and now you're blabbering your monkey language at me as if to prove me right. Last (You) since you're definitely the type of 80 IQ subhuman who'll keep spamming nonsense out of anger.

>Fauna could have done damage control this stream.
>Undoubtedly told to address her statements by management.
>"Nah, I'll just watch it burn and play Skyrim."
Based fucking gaming kirin.

There's a reason why they had "visa issues" with the girl that has another fulltime career outside of Holo

They WANT HER OUT ASAP

>>90692583
Okay, so flesh Idol is just a gateway to the world of entertainment?

>>90692594
They are one mistake away from fucking up it for everyone and I hope they realize that

>>90692503
I believe this to be true as well. Fauna literally couldn't just fuck off. She had to ruin it for the girls in the company as well. She would have been better off in Nijisanji.

>>90692747
Love Fauna

>>90692469
Why do you think there is a problem to be fixed? Have you ever considered that the girls who have been happy do not consider whatever it is a problem, at least not right now?
"Toxic positivity" would be a problem if majority of them are miserable and just trying to power through, but that’s not the case here

>>90692062
This stinks as kemono friends

>>90692540
Add this to your filename filters
/^IMG_.*$/
/^file\..*$/

>>90691379
>want to move to Japan
>give the Japanese company a heads up so you can make use of their resources
>the company prepares a shortlist of suitable domiciles before you arrive
>arrive in Japan
>pick out your dream place within a week
Smart rock

>>90692761
>projection
>run-on sentence of insults because you shit yourself
There's those buzzwords again.
We both know this isn't the last (You). You'll probably attempt something childish like deleting a > on a backlink, lmao! ook ook stay mad you animal

>>90692780
Honestly the ina visa issue could really just be mangement fuck ups.

The HoloX live being postponed will ironically bring the spotlight of the day to Sakuna's birthday stream.
Everything just goes right for her(except her Intel PC), the true protagonist.

>>90692780
"Management le good" shills conveniently forgot about the massive visa fuckup for Ina huh.

https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/quote/5253.T/bbs
If anon have time ,come visit this site too.There are many hilarious tweet right now ( ^o^;)b

>>90692649

>>90692780
Shit, make's perfect sense when you think about it.

>>90692840
>do the same as a korean
>??? VISA hort gomenne

>>90692859
Heh, just another case of management bad
I wonder how Holokeks want to string this up as

>>90692840
She's going to be Fwmc neighbor

>>90692800
Sounds like you're invalidating Fauna's case. Why did she leave like that? That's weird how you're more concerned about the other girls instead of asking why this is occurring in the first place. And I know there are shitstirrers, I want them to all die, that noise is irrelevant. Focus on why Fauna left like she did and ask if this one case will spread to everyone.

Biboo vs Fauna
I am surprised Biboo is more level headed. But Fauna is a vegan so... KEK

>>90692565
They did open quite a few staff positions recently, maybe they did fire a bunch of people. Or they're just hiring more useless people for no reason, that's entirely possible too.

>"Move to Japan, I'm not asking"
How do you respond?

>>90692866
It's not just fucked up, they're literally not doing anything about it, either. Ina's just stuck in Japan until her time there is up and can't even tweet.

>>90692921
Are they actually living in the same building?

they hired Raora to replace Ina, CC to replace Fauna, GG to replace Gawr Gura, and ERB to replace Mori

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSI70PQS1kg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSI70PQS1kg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSI70PQS1kg

>>90692960
>"Important announcement (the serious kind)"

>>90692784
Not that anon but yeah.
In my country, they treat the word "idol" like this too.

>>90692921
I'm surprised more of the Holos don't live near or around each other. Seems like it would make sense.

Do you think Yagoo has a similar wall?

>>90692960
Being an idol is tough work bitch. Not wanting to travel when all your resources are in Japan is wild and fucking stupid typical white woman syndrome.

>>90692784
Modern version is, yes, although different groups have different approach to it. There are those like Babymetal, for example, who are technically idols but operate closer to a rock band
The common approach is closer to AKB where the producer said that the group should only be treated as steeping stone and popular member should aim to graduate at the peak of their popularity to take advantage of it for their next steps

>>90693015
>open vid
>clipper has ERB pfp
>close vid

>>90693051
>bro just uproot your entire life and move and live in japan bro
>bro I swear we won't just make you do background work that'll never see the light of day 80% of the time bro

>>90693041
I wouldn't like living next to my coworker
Sounds like hell

>>90693051
>I know we had seven years to establish a US headquarters, which could actually make us 10s of millions, but, fly anyway because we like rubber stamping our signatures, okay? What's that? We're going global anyway so we should. No, no. But what about 3 am business meetings?
Are Japanese businessmen retarded.

>>90692523
>And their prize?
Catharsis. You wouldn't know how good it feels.

>>90692975
No but she visited them during a stream and insinuated that she wasn't there for nothing

>>90692942
EN5 is debuting on May, and Council managers have a very bad reputation.

>>90693122
Trust the company.

>>90693104
This would be a troll if we didn't already have examples of this shit.

hey anons that hate jelly, she's crying right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHu8EGvOqbc

>>90692928 (me)
These questions of concern to why talents are leaving and the way they are leaving should be addressed by management in a PR statement. It irks me they're hiding right now but I am hoping they're working on fixing this shit where this disaster is hitting every single branch and their members have to calm down their fans. It is a Monday there after all.

This is incredibly inconvenient and super retarded. If they figured out how to handle Fauna's exit better, we would all be more focused on other content instead of retarded drama

>>90693122
Most of them are, there's a reason Sony is the only thriving Japanese corp because they were smart enough to move their HQ to Cali

>>90693075
>he's not a thumbnail reader

the affiliate program was a terrible mistake because it makes graduations look like bad blood
also all the damage control is a terrible mistake if anyone else graduates soon especially gura

Fauna will go down in history as the woman who started the fall of Hololive. The moment Gura's and Mumei's graduations get announced there is no coming back, shit will blow up completely.

>>90693122
Read the company website you retarded fuck.

>>90693041
Only Fwmc-Lui or Marine-Pekora are like that no?

>>90693149
Sadly nobody can do anything about the mentally ill. There's a point where you need to stop trying to save the suicide bomber and let them go to their 72 virgins

>>90692772
It's great isn't it, Fauna could easily have done the affiliate and drawn out fake graduation bullshit pretending that everything was fine but she didn't. Without this I wonder how many more graduations Cover could have pumped out before people started taking it seriously. I know I made a lot of excuses for Aqua and Ame's departure that in hindsight were trying to pretend like nothing was wrong.

>>90693149
That's just you getting high off the trash fire fumes.

>>90692960
moving to a country that
>has little to no crime
>people respect you
>having all the first world amenities
>HEALTHCARE
On top of that nobody expects you to work like crazy because you are a gaijin. This is basically the perfect offer.

>>90693122
Last time we need is more diversity DEI retards. Just see the burgers itt. They are as retarded as they come. Any issue is mostly met with guns and violence.

I'm sad Fauna is keeping her SCs off.

>>90693241
Nah, tell the management that hired you to post here to fix your shit, instead.

>change means growth
Is Bae actually retarded?

Let's see how long the shills can keep trying to cover up the crumbling facade over Cover's rotten dying corpse

>>90693330
I accept your concession, now fuck off sapkek. Xhlgg is already waiting.

>>90693324
>NO MONEY FOR YOU COVER HEHE

>>90693215
JP car companies have had branches in America and other countries for years. Even Nintendo, a VERY Japanese company, has had Nintendo of America operating since the 80s.

>>90693324
at least she's still getting money