/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>90655548
Go to bed, SEA. No one loves you.

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

how is he

>>90654531
God Uyu is so powerful, look at him go

>>90655576

>>90655503
He's getting a little too old to be a mascot, I want a Holo Mickey Mouse.

>that graph from last thread
Holy shit CC's member numbers. I know it was her birthday but still. She's competing with top JPs.

>>90655476
do you have any better arguments than buzzwords? She's not someone to project your own attitude about them on

A lot of Champion Gundyr's attacks have weird hitboxes or weird active windows. He feels like a DS1 boss at times.

>>90654515
>Liz is evil!
>I already knew that.
>I already knew that Liz is evil.
Stop exposing yourself as an ESL retard who argues with native speakers, you can put past and present tense in this case.

Polka talking about Kaigai membah

>>90655618
That SC is 3 years old he probably killed himself because she ignored the message and just thanked him for the SC

ERB raided Polka, if anyone's still keeping a tally
>>90655618
Decomposing

>>90655548
this one
also dont bite the bait retards

>>90655503
Yagoo is the canary

>90655664
>cross-posting
Classic SEA shitposting.
No (You) for (You).

>>90655659
plop

>>90655659
Not only that, the members animation

>>90655715
Yeah it's 100% attributed to plops I think, which is fantastic.

>>90655667
Translate for us

>>90655744
plop

>>90655667
Is she getting introspective about wanting to do more with them? She's always been a big fan of EN

>>90655659
Love plops

What of the council have they made their thoughts known?

>>90655744
obvious setup

>>90655669
>seething so hard you had to cross post this
You lost already, ESL

im towa

>>90655809
Cover staff working overtime to smear Fauna.

>>90655809
this is a girl watching a movie with a homosexual every stright white woman does this all the time

>>90655809

>>90655757
I don't understand her speech or cadence mostly, missed the first 60%
but she just started talking about who speaks Japanese among kaigai, and what she might do when she goes overseas.

>90655809
>90655881
who does this retard think xhes fooling

>>90655809
The fuck is this?

I miss Fauna

>>90655868
I can't let you dumb flip corpo bootlickers get away with calling other people ESL out of the blue over perfectly valid English.

>>90655943
Did you mean to quote these posts?
>>90655809
>>90655881

>they really think the box is ironclad and not held together by the talents
And here we go.

For as much as some are hyping up some grand rebellion by the audience, numbers don't seem much different.

>>90655980
>random babble
Sounds like you're projecting

>>90655927
>what she might do when she goes overseas.
Yeah me

I just realized how bad notFauna clique is...

>>90655703
no wonder he was looking like a zombie last year

>>90656034
That was just you fag

>90655998
My man here slurping (You)s off the floor.

>>90656034
Sure but it's not getting any better
You'd think with the graduation announcement there'd be more tourists

>>90656049
You don't even know the meaning of the word.

>>90655809
Oh I guess she is pro homo kek

Together

>>90656034
They’re trying to will it into existence by spamming.

REINE.... SCORED!!

>>90656034
Fauna isn't gone yet

>>90655809
Not your friend btw

>>90655744
Was a clever compromise, the big Twitch alerts are frowned upon, yet having something definitely improves the size of the membership.

>>90656138
Yeah. But don't post her Twitter follows or you might get deleted.

>>90655809
It's gonna be really fun watching Saplings get a dose of what the *real* Fauna is lmao
Enjoy your PorcelainMaid collabs btw

>>90656172
Yeah, it's going to be of a rude awakening, one way or the other. I'm betting Fauna will be fine.

>>90656034
there will be a temporary buff caused by drama, then either a drop or consolidation as Fauna splits
normal stuff
people expecting a Niji scenario simply don't understand that in the Niji situation people felt failed by both management and talents - right now no real fan holds resentment against other girls and neither does Fauna show any

>>90655659
Plops are OP. Biboo should ask CC for a pebble version with a window wiper noise or something, it'd fit well and she play so much fromsoft she could use a gifted booster.

Got my Gura Super Groupies merch in today.

DOWN WITH COVER
>DOWN WITH COVER
DOWN WITH MANAGEMENT
>DOWN WITH MANAGEMENT

>Chloe won't get to play herself in Holocure

Visuals of Design Coco's Marine figure. I feel like this was probably meant to be revealed at her Solo Live next week since they're one of the main sponsors for the concert and it hasn't been officially announced yet.

>>90656117
The only public streams since then have been new girls who barely have any history with Fauna. No Promise, no SNOT.

>>90656172
>>90656213
That's usually another boost. See Coco, Aqua, Ame...

>I love it here

>>90656302
>he doesn't enjoy his anger

>>90656018
You don't need a box if you have strong enough singular talents.
That's why they are pushing Suisei so much.
She is to be Holo's Tinboy.

>>90656156
is she playing soccer

>>90656231
>btw support the stars boys, they're totally hardworking and unhinged

>>90656117
Dramafag tourists watch the beginning of the stream to hear what the streamer has to say about the situation. Then they fuck off.

>>90656034
The only ones expecting a nijien-like fallout are nijifans projecting, this is nothing like that. If anything you'll see buffed numbers for a month or more, then we'll see where they stabilize.

I love them both so much, forever

Nijifags are gloating
>>90654896
>>90654832

>>90656330
>he doesn't understand what box means

>>90656117
Have we been reading the same fucking thread?

>>90655809
And we're just supposed to magically forget any of these things happening and pretend being "unicorn friendly".

>>90655548
>there can only be one green Chuuba rrat is real
I will now anti CC

>>90656386
Based

>>90656424
We did for the JPs

>>90656386
They deserve to, now that we know that graduation queue for Hololive is actually real

>>90656386
Watamage will get them in time.

>>90656386
nijifags and holofags are 2 sides of the same coin

>>90656409
The word box has no meaning anymore, people talk about the indie box as if it's a real thing, a retard the other day was talking about the Sukuna box...

FAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNA

>>90656479
Remember to thank fauna for this

>>90656342
gonna use it against the beggars kek, wanna see how they react when it's against their bois

>i feel bad because my whole twitter-timeline is filled with pessimism, everybody's mad
>i understand, like, you guys know that i criticise the company a lot, but I think I still do it "nicely"? And I don't even share half of the things that I would like to share.
>but I did wanna say, like... I'm saying that because I want you guys to know that I'm not really trying to defend the company... I want to just say one thing to put everybody's minds.
>because one thing I've been seeing constantly on twitter now is like "Oh my god once again management is the reason behind it, so they are doing something wrong, what have they done that is making everyone leave, they need to fix this and turn the ship around, whatever they doing is shit"
>everybody's really focused on that right now, and I understand because the girls that are leaving give such vague, broad reason, and it just sounds like... yeah, "management".
>but first of all, even if they wanted to be more detailed I generally think they can't, so they have to be kinda vague
>but that DOESN'T mean that they are really all leaving for the same reasons
>management, like, disagreements with management is like an EXTREMELY broad thing to say, and from my experience everybody has their own issues. Really, everybody does, it's very individual. Everybody has their own indivdual unique problems and cases, and things that they are fighting for behind the scenes.
>I'm pretty sure all these cases recently, they're all different stuff. And it's not like "one big bad thing" that cover started doing in the past months, that we can blame.
>Like, that would be nice to have something to pin-point so easily, but there's no such thing. And even when it seems like "everything is coming down at once" now, that also doesn't mean that it's a particular thing that happened in the past 6 months.
>people seem to think that there's one thing that cover is doing wrong recently, and that is making everybody want to leave now.
>just like everybody's issues and problems are different and unique, everybody's time, uh time-frame, of when they start discussing something like this to the point where it's announced, is very different.
>so just even though there's like one day between chloe and fauna announcing it doesn't mean that they started this "process" in the same time-frame.
>it's hard for me to put this into the right words i guess, but I'm just trying to say that there's not one thing that you can blame or ask management to stop doing. Everybody has their own issues and their own reasons.
>I think in most cases it comes down to things building up, stacking up, over not just half a year but years.
>mostly I only know vague things, maybe for Ame I knew a little bit more... but like from what I generally know, you know, there's not like one thing.
>maybe I'm once again unnecessarily talking too much, but I just wanted to say that there are more sides, it's multi-faceted, to this... it's not so simple as "oh the company is now public and now they're focused on performance and overworking the girls". It's not that simple, really.
>and also if it was that, the girls always have the choice to, like, take a break from certain projects. They don't have to participate, they don't have to do a 3D concert. They can turn down sponsorships. Pretty sure they could even turn down participation in FES if they wanted to...

She continues talking about the cycle of hololive, the amount of time that is reasonable/normal to stay in a company like this, "money/easy job" etc. but I'm too lazy to transcribe that part.

>>90656424
All girls get a clean slate when they enter Hololive, I mean look at Raora lmao
The actual question is what will she do when she's back in the LL saddle

>>90656520
>tourists being newfags
>therefore definitions are meaningless
okay faggot

>>90656524
>One last Skyrim Sunday for the road
Ah, the tears are back.

>>90656386
What miserable people

>>90656541
Anything lower than 6 years (the amount of time Aqua was around for) should be considered abnormal.

>>90656524
I don’t feel it anymore :T

>>90656386
not surprising, nijifags love victimblaming too
>>90169798

>>90656524
Todd has done it again

>>90656524
oh shit israel

>>90656541
I don't care. Fauna leaves, I leave. Don't care why.

>>90656584
They watch Nijisanji, how can they be anything else.

>>90656524
I LOVE YOU FAUNA

>>90656386
I'll never understand their tribalist bootlicker mentality of defending Nijisanji and hating Hololive no matter what happens.

>90655809
hes samefagging the exact post he got banned for a few hours before btw

>>90656386
Eh you kinda deserve it for being so breathless about waiting on Niji graduations

>>90655809
oh no no no no sapkeks?!

>>90656624
This but I leave the hobby, no way I'm following anyone for a subpar experience after I tasted Holo.

>>90656624
enjoy your reactslop twitchkek

>>90656642
>>90655809

>Management wants the girls to be shill machines for more merch
>Shiori and Biboo both refuse to have anniversary merch drops
Are they part of the resistance?

>>90656647
But it was Phase fags who did this...

Realistically the odds of a homocollab or at least interaction before Fauna leaves are very high

>>90656647
Uh oh nijinig

>>90656034
Cover has to show themselves as being actively malicious to trigger a genuine rebellion. Thus far people are sitting in the camp of
>"Management is incompetent and needs work"
Rather than Cover being rotten to the core like Niji

>>90656624
the gods (ggg) sent me a key for poe2 just the other day, it's a clear sign

>>90656541
>mostly I know vague things
Then why speak for them?

Personally, hololive will remain my priority in stream watching. But one of my favorites leaving has definitely made me more open to checking out some indies. As long as it isn't on Twitch.

>>90656624
post merch

>>90656541
I probably believe her but it feels insane to me that this graduation barrage happened all at the same time. It's almost like these girls conspired to destroy Cover's reputation.

>>90656639
Liking Nijisanji wasn’t the point, it was a vehicle for hating Hololive.

>>90656117
Wait until Bae's chatting stream to see the buff.

>>90656616
TES VI doko?

>>90656524
Why would I spend even one second more watching somebody who’s not only on their way out, but left a shit storm in her wake that her co workers will have to clean up?

>>90656735
idk, they seem pretty malicious to me, there have been a lot of complaints about them from the talents.

>>90656796
Fauna might overlap it though, with Skyrim

https://exhentai.org/g/3143695/f394d0d0f6/

>>90656821
You didn't watch to begin with.

>>90656541
Kiara really should've made this a public statement

>>90656715
Same was said about Ame and the only she brought on so far been her retarded brother. Now that they leave and don’t have that crutch the reality is that every action they do affects them more. Including male collabing and shedding pay pigs

>>90656821

>>90656524
I MISSED UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>90656758
I'd recommend a twitch indie, but she's definitely an acquired flavor.
If you're staying on youtube, have you already checked the single mom?

>>90656779
It’s the opposite. JP and EN don’t coordinate on stuff like this, so Chloe and Fauna probably didn’t realize they were going to be making their announcements within the same week.

>>90656541
I’m and IRyStocrat and management can suck my dick.

>>90656824
Complaints about things being slow =/= a slander campaign against members

>>90656884
The face of grifting.

>>90656541
But in Fauna's case it was definitely something that has happened over the last 6 months to a year.
Fauna was Miss "Let Me Stay Here", there is something that forced her out

>>90656524
>Ceci starts by playing skyrim
>Fauna ends with skyrim
Pottery
Should've played it near the end for the true poetry

>>90656779
It sounds like they tried to delay it as much as they could but they need to get the new years and fes line up out soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tMokEZmVJ8
Fauner

>>90656386
watch they play the victims again soon enough kek

>>90656647
fair enough.

>>90656991
FAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNA

>>90656386
We did the same when their organs graduated. It's fair play.

>>90656541
>>i understand, like, you guys know that i criticise the company a lot, but I think I still do it "nicely"?
>>And I don't even share half of the things that I would like to share.
And yet she still has the reputation of being the one who constantly complains about Cover, I dunno, sounds like there is a lot of things wrong with management??

>>90656953
based cheebRyStocrat

>>90656584
thread did the same about Nijis and Homos, they can have their licks

>>90656991
Okay, now we see if they force her to walk back her statements or not.

>>90656968
Something happened to her and Mumei with the Breaking Dimensions MC, and then things seems to have spiraled from there.

>>90656824
Not every complaint create equal
For many complaints that deserves, there are absurd complaint that make others confused

>>90656946
>>90656779
Fauna is the only one of the four who requested an early graduation instead of a contract renewal graduation so

>>90657036
Kiara's just panicking because this has the possibility of blowing up so much it affects her

>>90656991

>>90656991
>mfw I use Hololive for my own ends
>mfw I throw everyone in the company that made me under the bus as I leave

>>90656541
keeps sounds more and more that fauna leaving is because of the jp trips

>>90656541
Like I said before, going indie becoming a real possibility with little risk in the girls mind, is the number one reason this is happening. It's a domino effect. Once they see it worked for others they all jumped.
Even if Cover was the best corporation on the planet, only a few girls would choose that over an indie career with similar income. Even something as laughably petty as "MUH GAME PERMZZ" could be enough of a reason to justify leaving.
At this point Cover's stability depends on how these indie careers pan out in the long term, they NEED to unsuccessful, the corps simply cannot retain most talent if the indie option proves "too viable".

>>90657073
>bootlicking
>ESL

>>90656541
>Pretty sure they could even turn down participation in FES if they wanted to...
DYRBI? FES is certainly mandatory but just not explicitly stated as such.

>>90657101
Honestly, they all kind of are.

>>90657054
I vaguely remember this and have seen a lot of people talk about it, what was the story? I know they didn't go to NYC like most other talents. But why is it potentially a management thing? I figured Fauna wouldn't leave her cats and Mumei is always busy with school and stuff

>>90657036
like the other anon said, this shit can blow up on the other girls face

>>90656779
My guess is that these graduations were decided fairly recently but cover HAS to put the announcements out this week because they are going to show the fes lineup soon and Chloe/Fauna won't be there

>>90657054
I’d assume it’s more the fallout of the Puddle arc than that.

FAUNA LOVES ME

>>90656847
Fauna made my top 5 on the recount so evidently I did. She won’t be getting a single second more of my time though unless she wants to do a damage control apology. When even Kiara isn’t standing with you in shitting on management you know you fucked up

>>90657166
>that other anon

>>90656541
>>90656779
I get the impression nothing has really changed. There's always been issues talents have with management as will happen in all corporations, it's just a fact of life. The only difference now is going indie seems way less risky now than a few years ago because Aqua, Ame, Mint, Doki etc are doing well recently. So the girls who previously just dealt with management woes because hololive was too lucrative to quit are getting braver about graduating and going indie. So we get more graduations now and it looks like "Cover changed" when really it's just the same.

>>90657053
That would be incredibly stupid of them to do and would only achieve the opposite of calming people down.

>>90657053
Oh absolutely. They did it to Aqua after her graduation announcement, and it doesn't take much to pressure Fauna.

>>90657140
It's as mandatory as the new years countdown concert, which is to say it technically isn't but you'd look weird if you're the only one who didn't participate

>>90656968
>Let Me Stay Here
the song she had to fight tooth and nails to have it in her 3D showcase because director-san wanted to cut it under 1hr

Personally, I'm blaming veganism. There is zero reason not to eat shit like eggs.

>>90657054
Really Cover completely fucking up the release of their orisong in general could also be a part of it

>>90657216
>When even Kiara isn’t standing with you in shitting on management
You are both deaf and can't fucking read either
She never said what Fauna was going through wasn't valid.

>>90657162
She just said that if Mumei ever brought it up she was 100% on Mumei's side and not management. Don't know if they ever expanded on it.

>>90657054
Fauna never recovered from the puddle arc

>>90657197
Yeah we'll see how much she "loves the saps" when PorcelainMaid is motorboating her on stream in a couple months kek

>>90657072
Probably didn't want to deal with another trip to Japan.

>>90657216
Fauna is bigger than Hololive. Kiara needs Hololive to survive.

>>90656541
so kiara is compromised? got it.

>>90657101
She's not the only one, all thanks to Fauna firing indiscriminately across the board

>>90657244
>new years countdown concert
where is it

>>90657216
If that was true you would have posted it with your post retardchama. Too lazy to grab someone elses?

>blaming management

>>90657109
>>90656991
i dont give a fuck, she better talk now

>>90657244
>new years countdown concert
>he doesn't know

>>90656968
JP trips are probably the most reasonable narrative we're ever gonna get since the lack of vegan food there was always an issue but even aside from that it's completely reasonable for a normalfag with a social life (including youknowwhat) to not want to constantly go to Japan.

Now it's been said that they aren't "forced" to do this and that might be true, but I feel like there's a high level of peer pressure involved. A holo that refuses to do idol stuff simply stands out like a sore thumb and would undoubtedly get shit on for being lazy, nobody wants that.

>>90657230
Lets ignore the times the girls saying there been management change so we can keep sucking cover cock I guess

Did Fauna just DENNIS Hololive?

Kiara is just mind broken by bad management at this point.

>>90657162
Mumei said that things were rushed. She would have been willing to do MC, but they couldn’t agree with management on what to do in time, so she scheduled a surgery that week instead.

Seems like Fauna might be keeping SC turned off for now.

Fauna is the most influential EN vtuber and it's not even close.

>>90657347
If she loved us then she would fucking stay, fucking lying bitch

>>90657387
This, and based.

>>90657125
There are lots of stories from "big" indies how they were scammed, lost money on merch (or had problems with merch).
Examples: Coco (who decided to join Vshojo after a year as an indie), Shyliy (scammed for 100k)

CC is getting Neal'd hard right now

A man denied of his dorya....

>>90657244
the thought of Ame going ah shit upon that realization still amuses me

>>90657356
Why are these doxfaggots still years behind in their info

>>90657317
also no EN advent calendar

>>90657140
They aren't gonna force someone at gun point. But it's the highlight of the year for the talents and fanbase so there's a lot of implicit expectation to show up.
But if a talent put their foot down and said no, I'm positive they wouldn't have to do it.

Let me fucking SC you Fauna why are you like this

>>90655618
he's been dead for years anon

So another fauna gold?

>>90657356
>>90656968
I thought you motherfuckers were /uuu2/. Fauna has talked about having family problems recently too.

can you guys watch CC so we can dorya?

>>90657456
https://holoen-advent.com/

>>90657431
what she gets for being a company girl

>>90657479
That's it? Fauna quits and still wins?

>>90657421
She loved that the saplings went and subbed to her RM acct in droves already KeK

>>90657378
>Cover want to accelerate profit
>Fauna is anti-consoomerist
I cracked the code

>>90656220
she wont be playing much fromsoft anymore, mori said they're losing fromsoft perms

Only Gura statement can appease the fans overall mainly because she is the biggest EN and she is closest to the girls that will graduate/affiliated.
The weird thing here is Promise girls didn't make a statement about it though Myth really didn't address it as a whole but the affiliate thing confuses everyone even Ame.
But Gura might be next so overall most girls won't do much with their statement maybe calm their fans but most EN fans will still be somewhat angry.

who do we support in the helmir vs ernoul hyperwar?

>>90657285
See >>90657372 for what Mumei said. Also, she said they weren’t satisfied with the choreography for It’s Not a Phase, but they didn’t have time to change it.

>>90657308
>Resistance
>Homolover who took Cover's affiliate slave money

>>90657462
Reminds me of Nijisanji male saying they can just ask for the playbutton.

>>90656779
Ame and Chloe did it on their anniversary month probably because they're not renewing their contract
Fauna is the odd one

>>90657356
>exercise your option to skip holofes
>all of a sudden your projects are getting denied, it takes a long time for your perm requests, you get saddled with a new shitty manager, etc

>>90657538
>mori said they're losing fromsoft perms
qrd? what happened

>>90657538
Why?

>>90657162
we don't know exactly
the emo faumei thing was supposed to be a big deal, with a song and mv and who knows what else, and it was left unfinished/abandoned, basically a tshirt sale
the girls seemed unhappy about it

>>90657197
retard shes talking about me

>>90657317
>>90657342
>no Advent 3D
>no Connect the World 2
>no EN4

>>90656524
>>90656991
Just like that I feel so much better

>>90657498
Thanks Anon, that helps to ease the pain.

>>90657515

>>90657125
You fags always like to chirp about how it benefits the person leaving but not about how it fractures a gen and leaves them permanently crippled as a unit going forward. Fauna is doing this knowing that CouncilRyS already has trauma out the asshole for a numerous reasons including already losing a genmate. Shes a selfish cunt.

>>90657554
>Fauna is the odd one
the promise 3D live

>>90657539
Cover better pray Gura stays silent.

>>90657378
It would be really funny if she kept SC closed for an entire month as a fuck you to Cover, but doubt it.

>>90657576
Sony is buying them out

>>90657588
Same. Man I love it when Fauna plays with my emotions

>>90657544
she has no spine and she was forced into it, she literally didnt even know what it was she just got told she could graduate if you took it so she did

>>90657462
>”you just have to ask”
Kinda disappointing to see my fellow holobros acting like nijinigs not gonna lie

>>90657596
Skill issue.

10k dorya!!!

>>90657583
check the announcement date of past years

>>90657629
Fucking hell...

>>90656541
>Posting all this in the anti thread
Fool

CC 10k!

>>90657494
>saw 10001 views for a 5 seconds
DORYAAAA

>>90657629
They are chikening out because kadokawa in its all is way too expensive

Neal tried hist best but he couldn't beat her
10k DORYAAAAAAAAAA

>10k
And just like that, we don't need Fauna anymore

>>90657596
>CouncilRyS already has trauma
wait this is actually the funniest angle, can we do more of this

10k DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORYA

10k dorya daaaaa

>>90656542
LL doesn't get a clean slate, Fauna does
They're different

>>90656991

>>90657692
Microsoft should swoop in and buy Kadokawa as a fuck you to Sony.

>>90657629
That hasn't happened yet, if it happens at all

>>90657539
That’s why JP and ENs staying are desperately trying to calm people down. I think more is to come including in JP, they see how bad it’s becoming with the fans doomposting and they know they arent done yet

>>90656138
She followed notVesper. She was always someone who avoided homos to please her fans. Same with Mumei and Raora. The only girls who genuinely hate male vtubers are Gura, Fuwamoco, and CC.

>>90657596
Have you ever had a job with coworkers?

>>90657692
if thats the case they'll just get bought by that korean company instead, which probably isnt much better overall
might keep perms though

>>90657692
They wanted to carve pieces off, and thought they could strong arm them into it, and got choked out by the bluff-calling bulk. Then the news broke out and prices start climbing. Sony played themselves.

>>90657725
Me when Gooba 100% not even joking.

>>90657756
>Fauna is a two faced grifter
Whoa, big surprise

>>90655548
Kobo WON

>>90657732
Would japanese law even allow that

>>90657725
I'm gonna miss this gift.

>>90657356
That's the narrative I'm going with; not as the only reason but a big reason.

>>90657646
>>90657553
now now discord, asking to not do the big annual event concert is a little different from having to beg to get your playbutton (which no nijisanji talent has ever done because it's not actually true, you really can't ask)

>>90657539
Does she even need to say anything at this point? Her recent activities have been pretty telling about how she feels when it comes to dealing with Cover/management.

>>90657580
i'll be really pissed if that song really does end up never being released

>>90657692
>Rumour of buyout happens
>Stocks and the Price go to the moon
A tale as old as time

delayed DORYAAA

>>90657719
I think over a 3 year gap in content is something of a natural clean slate but okay
Difficult to say what she'll actually do, but she's not stupid, she's well aware that like 99% of her audience will be ex-saplings that never watched a second of LL's content.

>>90657565
>refuse to work for the company
>waah why won't they shove money up by ass
These entitled bitches should be fucking glad Cover doesn't just fire them for contract breach if they stop streaming for more than a week without a doctor's note.

>>90657732
Microsoft doesn't want to deal with the problems Kadokawa has

Bint needs to kill himself, he's unironically doing the same rrat spreading as the dramatubers he hates

>>90656991
>ame finished oblivion before graduating
>fauna finishing Skyrim before graduating
Are Todd games the quintessential graduation game?

>>90656541
I'm honestly still confused on what she's trying to say here. I'm just so confused and sick of all this fucking vagueness. I know it's all NDA behind the scenes bullshit but it's stressful not knowing what's going on.

You guys promised me a strike.

Number predictions for Fauna? 30k?

>>90657756
She followed him when he quit, it’s not new

Crazy that Gura's comment about a girl trying to fix things etc might be about Fauna not Aqua/Ame.

>>90656953
>IRyS
Married woman love.

>>90657934
Girl trying to fix things?

>>90657916
No we didn't

>>90656541
>from my experience
>>I'm pretty sure
>mostly I only know vague things
Opinion disregarded from narcissism incarnate

>>90657910
>Cecilia is now taking the mantle those two left behind
oh nyo

now what?

>>90657849
Stop acting like a nijinig and downplaying what the girls are telling you to prop up the company.

All this Cover evil and “you are a bootlicker” spam is going to be hilarious in retrospect when Fauna is walking hand in hand with Shondo, Pippa, and the rest of the grift squad. She’s not a heroine fighting some great evil. She’s lazy.

>>90657900
He was always just a dramafag who happened to be on the opposite side from the others.

>>90657308
Why do people constantly switch between saying that Kiara is a cover bootlicker who constantly defends cover/management and saying that she is an antibootlicker who constantly shits on cover/management?

>>90657934
qrd?

Did anyone else in HoloEN play Witcher 3 besides Ame and Fauna?

>>90657913
>everybody has their own problems with management that built up over years, there's not one bad recent thing that's suddenly making everybody leave
Literally what is so hard to understand about this?

>>90658013
But I'm replying to a reply chain of one of the girls saying they could turn down FES if they wanted to. Try to keep up.

>>90657916
Who did? They new girls starting with Advent and ReGloss got new revised contracts compared to Legacy ones.

>>90658040
Kiara played it

>>90658044
Everyone wants an easy fix.

>>90658028
Whichever one gets more (You)s/they think incites more outrage.

>>90656541
Any proof that this is even really what she said? I don't member her

>>90658018
Seething about Fauna won't make your skin white you nasty shitskin

>>90657916
This will be just like every other graduation... Some people will be upset for about 2 minutes and then the show will go on.

>>90657950
Yeah with me

>>90657356
>A holo that refuses to do idol stuff simply stands out like a sore thumb and would undoubtedly get shit on for being lazy, nobody wants that.
>Wow, yes I want this Idol job as an Idol at this Idol company
>Noooooo, what do you mean I have to do Idol things aaaaaaaa
they can't be that daft right?

>>90658028
shes controlled opposition

>>90657916
Speaking from experience the company keeps going even if you quit it’s not going to suddenly stop over one person

Reminder that when you defend cover management, THIS is what you're defending. The Japanese are completely incompetent at business.

>>90656749
She had to speak her bit, common woman syndrome of not being able to shut up when she doesn't know

>>90658078
*wants to play it but keeps putting it off for random slop

>>90658028
Because people don’t understand that when Kiara “complains” it’s about hoping to better the company. It’s not some personal grievance.

KEK they actually added her now to their roster
>Fauna and Vesper
.. ok I did not expect to see that from /xhlgg/ since they hate Homos lmao

erm
why did Gura came back just to retweet Fauna and Chloe's graduations?

>>90658138
>defend cover management,
lmao

>>90658144
You couldn’t even afford a 5 dollar membership and then complain about having to get your details here.

>>90658161
Its an anti thread

>>90658179
why not

>>90658028
Unironically switches to whatever angle could be used to shit on Kiara the most at that moment.

>>90658138
Shoplifting must be out of control in Tokyo. Well, before they set up like that, I guess.

>>90658131
They are. Remember that Council applied during a time when EN didn't do jackshit and even JP concerts were in their infancy. On top of that, most of them are absolute normalfags far more so than Advent/Justice. It's a miracle Kronii somehow didn't join their weird hiatus/boycott/laziness circlejerk.

>CC killing pebbles and no one cares

>>90657596
This might be a little unpopular opinion. But i do belive gens were more united when they are sparced around the globe. They using discord as their central hub of getting in contact fostered more untiy between the gen. But as many started justbforming a small group loving in japan i feel most en gens are kinda fractured.

>>90657887
So it's basically like the type of "clean slate" that the previous male collabers in holo get that haven't done one in a while but yeah let's see

>>90658179
Why wouldn’t she care about her beloved Umisea member Chloe and her beloved Kouhai?

>>90658251
Don't really see how that's more secure than a normal vending machine that takes cash or card.

The Lemonleaf and Orc collab is gonna blow up the internet tho

>>90658161
>hate homos
>have them in the OP
sure

Kobo killed the ENflop branch with just her friggin mind!

Kobo is truly the Queen of Kaigai.

>>90657925
Would someone anti homo or even ignoring them do that? That's the point

>>90658253
i'm fine

>>90657934
Huh? Nigger what random rrat did you read?

>>90658251
Can't be that, you can clearly see a normal fridge system next to the coke machine.

If this is the reaction to Fauna, the reaction to Gura in a month or two is gonna be insane

You fuckers do know that Fauna is 100% blaming idol culture when she starts spilling the beans right? That's already the normalfaggot angle in youtube, xitter and leddit.

>>90658028
She used to be not a bootlicker but she's turned full on bootlicker in recent times

>>90658260
Thinking about it and your right anon it feels like there mori clique in japan and then the rest of EN.

>>90658138
why?

>>90658389
Fuck off

Sex with fembud

Showing off my Gura merch that came today. Should be coming soon if you ordered it. Don't use it to be a faggot pls.

>>90658353
She followed them as a Holo and never did it either.

>>90656238
Saddest thing is that she couldn't play HoloGTA this year nor will she next time

>>90658475
Are korean women good for you?

Genuinely think a Sen/Dooby/Doki/Mint/LL/Shachi collective would destroy HoloEN numbers wise.

>>90658440
Don't say I didn't warn you, anon. Fauna was always someone who did shit out of obligation not of appreciation. Her PL is proof enough that she doesn't like idol culture kek

>>90657462
>I'm positive they wouldn't have to do it
Any proof?

>>90658028
Contrary to the beliefs of some, Kiara is actually quite a complicated and multifaceted person who can hold nuanced opinions and beliefs.
This makes the simpleminded and ignorant seethe as they cannot put her into an easy "box" to describe her.

>imagine believe what woman said
just enjoy them as object like civilization do from ancient time

>>90658179
She never tweets about graduations only retweets. Even for ame. Watch as tomorrow she might retweet some fauna art.

>>90658494
nice

>PL

>>90658475
That's a man.

>>90658413
You're literally doing exactly what I said, this is literally one of the main angles used in what I was saying. Even funnier since schizos can't seem to decide on whether or not to use what she said to shit on her for being a bootlicker, or to shit on her for being an antibootlicker.

>>90658475
Yummy

>>90658123
BASED BASED BASED

>>90658559
All active vtubers

>>90658494
Oh that's a nice set

The reason why Fauna's graduation came as a shock is because she rarely bitched about management. She rarely ever showed there were issues behind the screen. It took her like 2 years to "explain" what happened during her debut and it took her a fucking year to hear her talk about how she fought with management so that her 3D debut doesn't get cut short. She really usually holds it in, for better or worse. So now that she's leaving because of management issues it's like a fucking whiplash.

>>90658496
You don't get the point. That doesn't make her anti or hate them. She's clearly amicable enough with them go follow one of them when they leave

>>90658123
Deflecting wont get her any closer to 1 million

>>90658621
It's her fault for being a pushover. People like Kiara and Shiori get what they want for a reason.

do you guys think she'll join the barbies

>>90658138
I don't understand the webm about

What's the deal with the Kobo poster?

>>90658650
Yeah i dont think anyone denies she's likely friend with the homos behind the scenes, kinda hard to deny at this point

>>90658687
Imagine begging this badly kek

>>90658687
I think she will collab with them once or twice but I see Fauna wanting to mostly keep to herself as an indie

>>90658101
It was reposted in global and no one called it out as fake so it's probably real

>>90658179
Because there is a strikingly odd pattern regarding the members leaving and their relationship to her

>>90656479
>t.nijifag

>>90658687
If she doesn't, her "best friend" will have another one of her breakdowns, so I hope she doesn't.

>>90658559
there's no stigma around discussing pls anymore anywhere you lost

>>90658717
She's unironically a nijinigger who got mindbroken during the vox/Kobo stuff

>>90658494 (me)
Also, the watch is a little smaller than I thought it'd be. It's not like a woman's watch but it's certainly smaller than a good girthy wrist watch. It fits fine though so no problem with the fit size.

will she collab with the orc once she's out?

>>90658769
Using the term PL outs you fag, just a heads up. Ive subbed to notFauna/Lemonleaf

>>90658475
Would fill her boi pussy and then take the Dino Gooba

>>90658717
I'm pretty sure I remember somebody really going insane from those memes of Kobo cutting Vox down, the DMC inspired ones.
And ever since then they've tried to do Holo vs Holo, mostly EN vs ID, using Kobo.

>>90658131
Fauna was excited to do idol shit until she realized that Japan is absolutely not vegan friendly, even all the grilled vegetables have fish oil on them.

>>90658717
i think he didn't even sleep, imagine seething at a shiteater this much

>>90658179
If you haven't noticed, today makes exactly a month since she did that update to HER bio. Gura's Twitter was completely dead during this last month, not even to shill her anniversary merch.

>>90658823
I'm honestly starting to think that the schism between Kronii and Fauna is because Fauna took his side in whatever disagreement got Kronii to unfollow him on her accounts and never mention him again.

>>90658138
this has to be one the most retard things i've seen

>>90658680
Anon, she fought so she 3D wasn't cut.

>>90658687
Imagine she leaves and STILL doesn’t talk to Shondo

>>90658717
Mindbroken nijinig
We just ignore him mostly, apart from the europoster who gets triggered by him

>cuckposting
Embarrassing

>>90657916
The world (or in this case company) doesn't revolve around 1 person.

So Kiara basically confirmed that management disagreement is a generic placeholder reason that Cover allows talents to use when they can’t or don’t want to get into specifics about their situation. Fauna doesn’t want to get shit on for being a difficult vegan so she threw management under the bus. If anything this makes Cover look better because they are willing to take PR hits to let the girls save face no?

>>90658823
Going back to a persona that has openly had a boyfriend sounds like a huge fucking risk to me. Should have made a new channel.

>>90658913
Yeah that would be enough to push Shondo into suicide kek

>>90658939
>Kiara
Wasn't that Mio

what would be incredibly bad would be if the disagreement with management involved things with younger generations, like Advent being given some position that fauna felt Promise deserved, or maybe Fauna felt CC overlapped with her too much branding wise and was angry that management wouldn't do anything.

>I select "show fewer shorts" on mobile
>Youtube removes all shorts from my Desktop side bar
>replaced with actual kids content and toy reviews
Neil, the fuck?

if gura graduates after fauna and says it's management related how bad is the fallout going to be?

>>90655548
List of Kobo's victim.
>Sana
>Ame
>Fauna
>Gura
>Mumei
>/#/
>HOLO ENflop
Queen of Kaigai, I FUARKING KNEEL

>>90659013
unironically branch ending

>>90659013
Black swan event. We'll need to invent the 8th trumpet.

>>90658939
>Confuses Mio and Kiara, from /here/ text
>2nd part is made up
>3rd part is bait
A pretty shitty ChatGPT wrote this.

>>90658930
Some people seem to not realize that

>>90658983
They both got the PR message from cover in what to say, so they both used it

>>90659003
you redeemed

>>90658939
I mean, when Coco was graduating she said some of the old farts in management/top heads unironically didnt like her

>>90658913
Otomo, your oshi CC wouldn't like you to say that

>>90658983
It’s not like that wasn’t obvious to anyone with half a brain already.

>>90659013
Cover would need to make a public statement at that point

hope you're ready for her new friend group

>>90659022
>SEAgroid neets shit up the thread all night
>they leave as the rest of the jungle apes start to wake up
It's all so tiresome

>>90659013
Gura's graduation will be a Cover press release. You are retarded if you think she will make some announcement.

The magic is dead

>>90659140
meh, i already realize i probably wont end up watching her after graduation
some of the magic leaves when they're no longer in the holo group

>>90659013
Apparently not that bad

Though I'll be honest, I don't doubt Gura has been fucked over by management, but she's also been given a fuckton of unique opportunities (taiwan shit, aquarium, dodgers) and that's long after she clocked out. I say this as a chumbud

>>90659140
As long as the majority of her content is still solo streams I couldn't give less of a fuck about who she collabs with. I can just not watch.

>>90659104
consider rope, homobeggar.

>>90659168
Yeah it's time to come back to /a/

>>90659013
Chumbuds will shit on cover forever if Gura even gives them a go ahead sign to. They aren’t limped dick, they the only fanbase to shit on homos straight up when they were being pushed

Thread is already betraying Fauna for the blue triangle.

>>90659140
They all seem mentally ill, I don't like it

Cover not treating talents like shit challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

>>90659013
Gura graduating would already drop their value by at least 25%
She's the Pikachu of vtubing, normies that don't know what vtubing is know about "Same-chan".
It would be like Barcelona losing Messi, or Disney losing Mikey, at least 5 years to recover.

>>90657661
>Anti think # is his thread now
Nice try tranny

>>90659013
all out war. holos will be fighting holos in the streets. fanbases will be in the trenches, killing their former brothers. families will be divided.

>>90659153
That's what a mindbroken nijinigger looks like

>>90659013
Gura would be a cunt for that because there's absolutely no way management isn't bending over backwards for her at her whim. She doesn't stream because she doesn't want to, end of story.