/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

hey man

I love Ina!

>>90604568
Mumei and Gura (but they might also be leaving). Other than that Gigi, but she’s only become friends with her recently.

I love this doll
I can't sleep, my eyes are too sore

>>90604108
You're the one saying they may leave, so paint the picture of how that would work.

Solution:

Get Ririsya to replace Chloe
Get Miori to replace Fauna


THERE, SAY THANK YOU.

On one hand. Sad
On the other hand. Numberfags had it coming. Maybe karma is real.

>>90604714
hi

>>90604725
Add a second Gura to the top row.
Cover will never stop selling Gura merch but probably fired her player months ago.

I think I care about Hololive too much

Chicken Salad was literally just starting to bloom...
FUCK YOU COVER

>>90604725
>Ina that low despite directly talking about this very thing before her break
Ina continues to be an amazing litmus test for tourists and dramafags

All smiles with this fella.

17 hololive EN this now.

Next year, it will be ~20 for new gen - 1 or 2 graduations.

Fes is coming up and Fes plans need to be finalized, they're cutting ties before they have another Mel situation where they have to emergency edit shit out of Fes
They probably approached Fauna to do her Fes shit and she tried to bargain out of it and they wouldn't budge (honestly her getting pissed off about them wanting to fly her out to Japan makes a little bit of sense, she literally never traveled for the concerts except one Fes performance).
Chloe is physically dying (real) so it's no surprise she wanted out of the Fes preparations as to not disappoint her fans as it gets closer

>>90604593
>models are extremely expensive, both the 3D and 2D ones
No they aren't they're a few thousand bucks
>you're ignoring the group of workers that they have in the company besides the talents
Most of these workers are there to do things related to idolshit. That's what requires all the planning, organization and meetings. Not just turning on a stream to play a video game

Weird that the fanbases that have been coming out of the woodwork to openly shit on Fauna are Kronies and Deadbeats. I never would have expected that.

>>90604777
What if she said this to get her fans to hate her so they wouldn't be sad?
What if she had already decided to leave at this moment?

>>90604548
Who could be behind this...

So when will Cover allow them to collab with Graduates or Affiliates?

>>90604811
I know it's hard, but it's good to care about the things you like.

>im not leaving because i want to
Did she really have to say this? It straight up sounds like what is going on is SO BAD that she was forced out

Why hasn't Towa addressed the situation yet?

>>90604877
never

Firing someone over not wanting to go to Japan is fucking retarded. She was still pulling in tons of views and moving tons of merch. Who fucking cares if one Holo skips fes? There are like 60 of them. I am glad she called those retarded salarymen's bluff but I am sad to see her go

>>90604831
Yeah, because Fauna graduation was so sure lol

My entire face hurts from sobbing and I was finally stopping but there’s been a horrible catching sensation in the side of my chest and my entire body is slowing down

I think the Fauna news gave me an actual fucking heart attack

I’ll miss all of you

>>90604894
It's a 5 minute video. Why not watch it?

Fauna's announcement seems to imply that it wasn't poor working conditions that wore her down over time but instead a singular issue that led to a disagreement with management that came to a head with her opting to graduate.

She seemed to be planning for a long term future with Hololive earlier this month.

>>90604725
>not even real statistics

>>90604568
lets see in her own gen
>Kronii clearly fucking despise her
>Bae doesnt like her, even cancelled all her planned collabs with her, and suddenly is more bros with Kronii this past year
>IRyS doesnt give a shit about her and is literally Kronii’s closest friend
>Mumei tolerates her because shes a good girl who unironically doesnt believe evil people exists
the rest are just pure acquaintances and only doing collabs for the viewers entertainment, when NY happened Fauna did a members after that saying how she feels so alone and sad

>Emo Mumei finally taking off and getting god tier porn with the buff Goth Fauna had given initially
>Probably going to leave soon

Goddammit......

>>90604900
She just learned she can summon two futa cocks at the same time and has been going ham with them with her usual playthings.

>>90604831
I like how she's replaced Shiori in that role. It's especially funny because at least Shiori has antis, everyone who puts Ina there is just a Holoanti with no brains.

>>90604515
>Gura finally collabs with Biboo
That's Gura's problem, and that's why it's not happening

>>90604937
SAPPO LOVE

I'll hold my breath until Cover releases the Fes key art. The graduations will probably stop only after then.

>>90604952
classic woman moment

It took so long for Promise to rebuild themselves after Sana only to be fucking torn apart again.
I hate this world bros.

>>90604927
If you dont come to office for atleast one time in a year, thats not a work issue, thats a personal issue.

>>90604930
Fauna's situation isn't even comparable though. It'd be like trying to compare to Mel.

>>90604999
Yeah I need the god damn lineup

I am so ready to take the indie pill but
>I need guarantees of regular streams
>My oshi would not work as an indie because their Hololive character is too unique

>>90604968
The worst thing about Mumei and Fauna leaving is their models were absolute god tier

holy crossposters

>>90604937
You probably just swallowed too much air while you were sobbing.

I guess Roboco is the next JP

>>90604854
>no they aren't
>they are a few thousand bucks

Just heard the terrible news, wow :(

>>90604777
I don't, like, since she's a woman, believe that she understands what she's saying in a manner that it means the same thing as I understand it as a male. Not because we're of the opposite gender with respect to each other but just because women don't understand friendship and community like men do. NL is my friend and I chat with him less than I chat with Fauna, she's trying to be logical but she's overreacting.

I just sold all my cover stock.

>>90604854
>vtubers that are only streaming and no idolshit at all
So basically you want Nijisanji.

>>90604847
You can skip out on FES though, Haachama already did it once before, just announce a hiatus before they announce the line-up.

Gura cute Gura cute!

>>90604900
Towa isn't real anon
Towa has never been real....

Bae a cute.
Fauna a cute...

>>90604952
So white woman moment?

>>90605014
4 being the proper gen member count is inevitable.

>>90605014
They are the most cursed gen

>Fauna OP
Get over it.

Soon
https://youtu.be/SmtA-2-xUdA
https://youtu.be/SmtA-2-xUdA
https://youtu.be/SmtA-2-xUdA

>>90604999
Yeah, I'm holding my breath. If my oshi is there then I know she's not leaving until 2026.

>>90604955
What statistics?

>>90604856
As opposed to Saplings who openly shat on those two in /#/ for a very long time

>>90604854
>few thousand
2D goes for 1000 on average with a wide variance
3D a bit more expensive

Ame going didn't hurt.
Fauna going hurts.

>>90605052
I'm sure they go into low 5 figures aswell especially if you're Hololive and getting overcharged but still, that's cheap compared to what they make

>myth is just phoenix and death fucking eachother to stay alive
>promise is in tatters with just bae, irys, and kronii
>all of which are inactive nowadays
>mumei is dead
guys I never resonated with either advent or justice.. I don't have anyone else to turn to anymore. There's no one left..

>>90605056
What happened?

>>90604937
stop attention whoring and eat a 12 gauge already

>>90604725
I can't believe people still put moom and goob as most likely to leave. Its not going to be someone obvious

>4 myth members
>4 promise members
>4 Advent members (Fuwamoco are one channel)
>4 Justice members
Newfags are actually going to think gens were always only 4 people at this rate.

I think the biggest reason is those retarded 3 hour meetings they make you do in the middle of the night that never contributes to anything

>>90605151
Ame and Fauna both pale in comparison to Sana

It's bizarre reading /#/ already declared war against cover meanwhile this thread is still pretty much split 50/50

>>90605060
holy autism

>>90605194
covidfags dont know the first gen of hololive had 6 members

>>90605141
ok? go back and complain there then

>Fes Artwork shows up
>Ame is in
>Gura is in
>Mumei is in

What now, indiefaggots?

Imagine a world were Cover stayed Private and they didn't spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on a dogshit retarded project like Holoearth?

>>90604789
Same
Silver lining in everything

I’m so fucking sad and angry. I want to fucking punch a wall until my fingers break.

Fuck everything and everyone.

>>90605014
On the bright side now they can all play 4 player co-op games without leaving someone out

>>90604854
Turning on a stream to play a video game is not a viable business model. You don't need to join an agency to do that. There's a lot of retards that think otherwise and start their own streaming focused agencies that were basically unprofitable as fuck and shuttered once they ran out of money to keep it going.

>>90605211
It's because they are the anti thread

>>90604831
Explain then

>>90605211
>actually using other threads

>>90605211
>shocked that Fauna’s split is mad at cover
what did you expect

That one Sapling schizo can finally stop crying when FauBae collabs happen. They won't ever happen again so I guess he can graduate himself.

>>90605183
Eh, Mumei could leave at any moment. Gura isn't leaving though, only retards think she has the spine to do even a streamless announcement-only affiliation.

>>90605151
Fauna leaving AFTER AME leaving and broadly citing the same issue as Ame, Aqua, and Chloe before her makes all those other graduations extra fucked up.

>>90605211
/hlgg/ has always hated Cover but was never stupid enough to think that destroying it would make things better for Hololive.

>>90605194
4 x 4 x 4 x 4

CURSED

>>90605141
NTA, but if you're going by that, deadbeats and kronies also went to /#/ to shit on Fauna.
So stupid that people on this board love to hold grudges against anonymous posters like we don't know there are avatarfags and falseflaggers like Selenfag and squirmbeat shitting up both threads

>>90605151
Ame going was like having your tired old bedridden Grandma pass away. You liked her a lot, but you know it was gonna happen eventually.
Fauna is like a hot female friend who suddenly passed away from breast cancer because she only used holistic medicine or something and had a shitty doctor who didn't find out some way to trick her into chemo. It could have been avoided.

>>90605211
/#/ is the schizo discord thread. All of them are in a discord. Nothing they say matters

>>90604952
I think she got fired because the new Cover business model is 16 poorly selling voice packs a year, meanwhile It's Not a Phase only exists on a recording of a concert that you can no longer legally obtain.
And neither of those things sound good to a gaming idol Kirin.

>>90605061
How much was it?

>>90605211
I have been anti-ing cover since they fucked over Ina

>>90605236
PV2 of HoloAss happened right around Councils debut.

fuck

Ame was right
You guys lost

>>90605211
I hate management, not the girls

>>90604970
Proof?

>>90604833
More like Kiara knew it was happening and decided to leech while she could

>>90605025
Aaand that is the reason why indies haven't thrived in five years of being given a wide open field on Twitch
They can barely guarantee anything

>>90604854
>No they aren't they're a few thousand bucks
and if you're going to comission them for the talents in a regular basis it stacks
>Most of these workers are there to do things related to idolshit
nice information totally cover insider. however they have managers, nned perms, girls like a-chan and nodoka, etc
now go back to either vshojo or nijisanji if you hate idols so much

>Kronii
>IRyS
>Bae
>Mumei
>Mococo
your new Paw-mise

>>90605313
Full Color used to literally only exist on a blu ray you cant even buy anymore

>>90605311
/hlgg/ literally has offsite discussion places by the way

>>90605211
I want Cover to fix their shit, I don't want Cover to disappear.

>>90604952
>She seemed to be planning for a long term future with Hololive earlier this month.
Which stream was this?

>>90605262
>Turning on a stream to play a video game is not a viable business model.
lmao that's why people watch Hololive bro
that's where all this popularity came from, Miko playing GTA, Korone playing Doom
Other companies aren't successful because they choice the wrong business model. They're not successful because they aren't Hololive

>>90605211
Why don't they just ask Dimitri Jap to fix it?

>>90605334
I DM'd you the proof :)

>>90605297
I dont care about lazy hires leaving, if you do not want to perform then get out.

>>90604789
I don't think about or consider those subhumans.
Fauna is a great entertainer and I fucking HATE to see her go.

>>90605211
I mean, they're basically a split thread, but one where their oshi leaving Hololive is actually dying instead of meaning they have to watch a new channel.

>>90605211
You're slaves. You have no choice.

>>90605167
>what they make
what who makes? because EN doesn't get a fraction in SCs of what JP does

>>90605211
Idol culture
vs
Western stream culture

>>90605236
we love and believe in holoearth here

Okayu has escaped the terror of childbirth.

>>90605278
Not him but FUCK you. I would have killed to have FauBae collabs with current Bae after her gamer transformation

>>90605398
Can you share it here? I didn't get the DM

All the ID fanbases getting uppity. Wait until Kaela announces her graduation because of disagreements with management (ie., streaming vs. idol duties)

>>90605296
4x 4 x 4 x 4 = 256
2+5+6 =13
1+3 = 4

>>90604952
i keep seeing you fags cite her happiness for the future but ive yet to see a single timestamp

>>90605410
>>90605416
Ah, the enlightened culture warriors appear earnestly

>>90605285
>broadly citing the same issue as Ame, Aqua, and Chloe

All of these girls gave different reasons for leaving and all of their reasons are different from Fauna's. The only one who specifically cited the direction Hololive was going in being a factor in her decision to leave was Aqua. Ame's reason basically boiled down to her wanting to find herself and she might be back someday, Chloe said health reasons and Fauna said specifically a disagreement with management. She went out of her way to say that it wasn't any of her work that made her leave.

>>90605438
Okay, sent (:

>>90605309
Is this a "Steve Jobs dying from ligma" analogy?

>>90605126
Who says your oshi can't leave in April 2025?

>>90605072
Why are Gura's tits GIGANTIC in this?

>>90604714
hey girl

>>90605236
Is HoloEarth the biggest waste of money Cover ever spent?

>>90605211
I thought /#/ looooved Dmitri Jap and that he was the most based thing to ever happen to CGDCT and was saving the branch

>>90605338
>and if you're going to comission them for the talents in a regular basis it stacks
Yeah 5000 dollars to set up a vtuber who makes hundreds of thousands a year. What an expensive business!
>however they have managers, nned perms
That part doesn't require a lot of work

>>90605142
what game is this from

>>90605395
I miss pre-perms hololive. Korone with no perms bullshit was so strong

Cover went public in 2023
Laplus mentioned heavy workloads when she started which would be in 2021/2022
Cover going public has nothing to do with the "heavier"/non-streaming workloads as they were already heading in that direction.

>>90605440
Kaela literally does not have an issues traveling to Japan to do holowork and then go back home to game.

>>90604937
drink lots of water and take deep breaths

Not-IRyS got twitter blue all of sudden...

>>90605211
Cover is the problem but it isn't because they're a black company or manipulative or harassing anybody. There'd be no point in getting angry at them because they're unironically returning to their roots with the newfound support they've gained over the years. Every single girl who left has done so because of disagreements with content and that's completely fine. Sad, but it's not like they're driving anybody to suicide or harassing or neglecting them into leaving.

>>90605393
Kek
All that shitposting turned out to be karmic

>>90605404
>Possibly no more Goth Fauna or Emo Mumei porn

Shit fucking sucks.....

>>90605530
planet zoo

>>90605481
Who the hell is Steve Jobs?

>>90605508
Oh yeah, lol. /#/ really is a den of clueless retards

>>90605393
>>90605508
this has to be the same person

>>90605299
The people I'm quoting were spotted live posting Fauna's members streams several times in /#/. There's also that one infamous merch post of a Sapling who was a massive Kronii/Mori/Bae anti, the same one who edits them out of promise pics, posting a picture of his merch with post timestamp

>>90605508
They're still dicksucking him by saying it's acshually upper management's fault lmao

>>90605395
>lmao that's why people watch Hololive bro
well yeah they watch hololive for streams since that's what they can watch. however the biggest appeal of hololive is the idol group
>Miko playing GTA, Korone playing Doom
maybe for the west but the biggest talents are all JP with mainly JP audiences. sorry to burst your bubble
>Other companies aren't successful because they choice the wrong business model
the business model you're describing

>>90605411
Every EN vtuber makes hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars a year (total, not personal income)

>>90605340
The difference is Gura doesn't care

>>90605576
You can be gifted Twitter Blue

>>90605508
Imagine if you told them 2 years ago that Mori would be leading the push on Hololive's Western idol culture while Fauna was quitting her CGDCT streams over Japan and management slap fights...

>>90605461
Just stating facts. You have to somewhat be on Cover's side no matter what. What other option do you have?

>>90605219
Have you taken a look at your surroundings? I don't think the context is autistic but I type what I would say instead of writing it like I would write it. Yeah that sounds really, even more autistic so nevermind but my point is that Fauna doesn't understand shit and that she should want that the people who watch her consider her a friend like how I think most males would use the term.

>>90605595

I don’t really watch Fauna (nothing against her she just doesn’t stream at all good time for me) but I feel so fucking awful. I just feel like something I didn’t realize could be lost is dying in a terrible and protracted way and all I can do is hopelessly bear witness. I want to go back to when things were better. I want the girls to be happy. I’m sick of all this. What can I do to help? What can any of us do to try and fix things? Or do we just sit here hopelessly forever?

>>90605576
you can gift it now

>>90605607
I almost feel bad for those monkeys
Almost

>>90605576
Another one bites the dust

>>90605595
he invented laptops anon

>>90605279
>>90605183
50% doesn't mean "oh god she's graduating tomorrow"

Holy shit Noel

Should we be worried about Rissa possibly graduating at some point? There’s an rrat that she has the same shitty manager as Fauna and she also hates going to Japan.

>>90605576
IRySoOver

>all the shitposting about Kronii for 3 years straight finally bit the numberfags back
kek funny how that works

>>90605598
No, multiple people are just finding the irony in corporate cult of personality dick sucking. To be fair, I'm upset at Yagoo but for different reasons.

why are people seething about Mr. Jap

im the #1 fan of gawrgura

>>90605547
What lap considers heavy workloads may be different than what others do.

>>90605459
NTA but she always talks about it? whether it be ENreco2, or 7DTD, or the next fes, etc., Fauna has also been talking more about her vocal teacher and how she's working on her deep voice for a new performance.

>>90605497
It’s never going to make any money .So yes.

They won

УУУУУУУ MAMA ФAУHA Я БУДУ CКУЧATЬ УУУУУУ

>>90605606
JP is still about streams. Like I said, there's thousands of idol companies out there, all failures compared to Hololive

>>90605513
>to set up a vtuber who makes hundreds of thousands a year
who the fuck is even doing that anymore in ENwith super chats?

>>90605581
Yep, it's always the more creative types who end up leaving. The ones feeling tied down by jp management autism but that's the way they are and always have been

>>90605211
Declared war how?
Also yeah, it's /uuu2/ so what do you expect

>>90604725
ftfy

>>90605695
Nerissa doesnt mind going to Japan
Nerissa minds going to Japan for 2-3 months

>>90605279
>he thinks Gura is a still a person

>>90605384
>>90605311
Proof?

>>90605211
The truth was never black or white
It's always something in the middle

>>90605508
/#/ is a cage of monkeys that only follows what everyone else does because monkey see monkey do.
It's also why big numbers makes them feel good.

>Hello! I wrote some stuff down so I don't forget anything, so if it sounds like I'm reading, it's because I am.
>So, thank you for being here, and I'm sorry to worry you. I know this is going to come as a huge shock, and for that, I'm sorry.
>I'll be graduating from Hololive on January 3rd, 2025.
>The reason for my graduation is disagreement with management.
>I've grown so much ever since joining. I love singing; I love performing for you. Because of you guys, I have been able to do so many things that I never imagined I would ever be able to.
>I never thought I would be able to perform on stage. Before I joined Hololive, I never even tried singing, and now I've been able to sing and perform for you, whether it was on stage or just here in karaoke.
>It's something I really love, and I'm so grateful I was able to do it. I'll always cherish these experiences and the people who cheered me on.
>I love streaming. It was and still is my dream job, so thank you for letting me live my dream. For me, there's nothing better than being able to stream, and banter with you, and just be my silly, goofy self.
>It means the world to me that so many people find me entertaining enough to watch my streams. I'm so lucky.
>I've said this before, but I really couldn't have asked for a better community. It makes me so happy to see you helping each other out, spreading kindness, and appreciating me for who I am. I hope you continue spreading kindness even after I'm gone.
>And I'm so grateful to have met the talents here. Hololive members are some of the kindest, funniest, and most talented people I have ever met. I feel so lucky to have been able to meet them, stand on stage together, and make genuine friendships that I know will continue even after I leave.
>I'm not leaving because I don't want to be here, and I'm not leaving because I don't want to be an idol.
>It was a really hard decision to make, and I'm sorry that I couldn't be here longer. I'm sorry we won't be able to make more memories, but I hope you'll cherish the ones we have just as much as I will.
>Thank you for supporting my decision, even if you can't understand it. Thank you for supporting me all this time, and thank you for letting me live my dream.
>And I'm not leaving just yet, so let's make the most of my remaining time here. I'll be streaming until the end, and I have a World Tree to finish and some other stuff games that we'll talk about.
>I look forward to spending the rest of my time here with you. Thanks for being here.
>That's all I have. It's short, sorry, it's short. Thank you for listening, and I will see you soon, okay? Please take care of yourselves, and thank you for everything.

>>90605395
You've got it wrong. Those things you mentioned are how they build the brand and audience. They have that now. This is the time to make real money. That's the change in direction so many have talked about.

>>90605695
Not a manager issue, but isolation issue + no idol interest. Weak links and weak interest in idol/company is a warning sign.

>4 hours
>still going
that bad huh...

>>90605614
not without merch and "idolshit"

Looking forward to my favorite streamers all being freed from the cover gulags and actually able to stream frequently

>>90605576
I just checked and...
TIMERyS CUTE

>>90605740
why are you only counting superchats?

>Mori says that management is fine and she's really happy with how things are
>>>>>>>>OH NO IT'S LITERALLY OVER THE ENTIRE BRANCH IS DISSOLVING

>>90605766
thank you for your insight guy who exists to make koikatsu porn

>>90605755
>he thinks gura was ever a person
she was always AI anon

>>90605706
Personally, my grievances are with permskek and the shitty twitter intern
I'd do both of their jobs FOR FREE and do it better

>>90605695
Realistically, all of the girls are going to leave someday.

I don't think Nerissa is going to leave over having to record for HoloFes this year.

>>90605833
i trust fauna more

If the First Army of Hololive exists, then who is the Commander-in-Chief of Hololive?

>>90605793
How was Fauna isolated? She did plenty of collabs.

>>90605832
why are you counting merch? I thought you just wanted streams

>>90605789
>Those things you mentioned are how they build the brand and audience. They have that now. This is the time to make real money.
That's how they think, yeah
But the brand isn't strong enough to just rugpull the streamers and expect people to still care about them - they won't
Cover is not vtuber Disney
They never will be

JGBFW whose stream we watching bros?

>Fauna only likes to stream, seemingly dislike singing judging from the singing related content on their channel
>Kaela only likes to stream, seemingly dislike singing judging from the singing related content on their channel
Now, can anyone name the difference between these talents and why one would graduate and why the other will stay for a long time?

>>90605856
Why does an AI want to fuck Ame?

>>90605395
where's the more successful streaming-focused vtubing corpo? sounds like a great underutilized niche with a huge audience sick of idolshit who just want to see cute girls play games. weird how despite this seemingly simple plan being so obvious, no small corpos seize the initiative and take off

I'd laugh hard if the disagreement with management is something as simple as a thing that disagreed with Fauna's Moral fiber


EG. VEGANISM.

>>90605695
Kiara won’t let Nerissa quit

>>90605607
Yeah, they're blaming the ex-TV producer guy

Is there anyone in upper management that knows English? A-chan going meant that there's noone EN can air their grievances to.

>>90605772
have you ever been in this thread for a watchalong?

>>90605905
Cost of living

>>90605905
one is a white woman

>>90605902
Okayu.

>>90605833
There's also all those faggots going
>I trust the girls, you're just a corpo dicksucker!
Meanwhile you have the girls saying that they're fine and it's kinda dumb to leave because of shit

>>90605905
kaela has better work ethic

>>90605236
Staying private was never an option. The VCs that funded hololive were going to get their money one way or another.

>>90604759
1. They leave.
2. They do something else.
3. You follow them against your better judgement

>>90605893
Why are streamers not allowed to sell merch? Idol activities are things like music and dancing, creative stuff that requires staff and effort to produce. Selling merch is easy

>>90605736
>JP is still about streams.

>>90605833
Mori drank the corpo koolaid. Shes in it to win it

HENMa got sacked which is why Kumomane's managing Shiori too now

>>90605918
Nerissa really doesn’t care about Kiara that much anymore.

>>90605475
I think this is cope. Chloe wanted to do something different as in it didn't align with what Cover wants but I suppose it's unclear if her desires changed or if Cover's desires did. Ame's was that she wanted to do things her way and she was able to show strokes of that while in Holo and in retrospect with what the performer is doing now; she even said as much when she was being monitored over her katamari hat

>>90605710
Because he was supposed to be the anti-omega and literal promoter of CGDCT streams, plus he's the fucking project manager, isn't he in charge of these projects that the girls have so much homework from? He should be supervising their managers on how to handle the workload and scheduling and deadlines.

>>90605863
The Twitter retard is a drop in the bucket. Cover has had interns post merch tweets early for years and fuck things up. Perms are a more serious issue since they keep ever changing, and get hairier.

>>90605905
Kaela understands that to work is to eat

>>90605905
Kaela lives in an extremely poor country and never sleeps

>>90605395
You're missing the point completely. Hololive is exactly what it is because of the idol stuff. That's literally what sets them apart from the rest of the field. Why would Miko or Korone have a reason to stay in Hololive if all they have to offer is a vtubing model for you to stream.

>>90605890
Did you ever notice how during her minecraft solo streams she would get increasingly upset that nobody else played minecraft. And then she started bitching about how there was no point in even finishing the world tree and it was a stupid project anyways?
Girls decide to quit months in advance. This was her venting after having already decided she wanted out.

>>90605890
More like physically isolated. Ina probably almost graduated earlier this year if she didn't had Mori and Irys nearby her to watch Gurren Lagann at a moment's notice

>>90605972
Aren't those UOs? What's this image supposed to show?

>>90605879
Fauna never said she was unhappy with how things are in Hololive. Not even in her graduation announcement. She said she had a disagreement with management and is leaving because of it.

>>90605211
That thread is such a shithole. I even tried lurking now and then just to try and understand why we sometimes get people shilling it here, and tried to be as impartial as I could. There's a funny post now and then, but I concluded that it's not possible to enjoy vtubers that way, and judging by the state of numberfags here and other threads, I think I'm right

>>90605982
Kumomane should tie up Shiori and deliver her to Ina as reparations

>>90604873
Probably the same person who has been behing every Advent and Justice birthday since Justice debuted, and who chose to use a GG PL clip as her clip for the vtuber awards voting

>>90605916
>sounds like a great underutilized niche
Hololive already occupies that niche

>>90605910
her brain works funny AI gets off on people like that

>>90605928
It's a Japanese company. The best English speakers are the talents and maybe their direct managers.

>>90605982
>HENMa
If he wasn't in a relationship with a talent, that's an absolutely fucked up firing

>>90605719
Let's put the Lazy+ joke aside for now, she clearly thought she was only going to be streaming and doing idol stuff occasionally but that was not the case.

My point being, this was all before IPO, so everyone being all clever complaining about shareholders are the same fuckers complaining about interest rates and trade deficits despite understanding none of it. They're just parroting something they read somewhere else.

>>90606040
>Ina
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>>90605922
>ex-TV producer guy
Who?

would fauna be ok with a mcdonalds collab or not?

>>90605950
VCs are a poison, I will become a capitalist and destroy them all

>>90605833
Mori believes in the company mission/goal of promoting/growing their talents, which is what cover is trying to do. And thats a good thing. She also believes some talents dont want that and they have freedom to choose their own route. There is nothing inherently wrong with either side. Its just disagreements on the direction of the talent.

>>90605587
>>Possibly no more Goth Fauna or Emo Mumei porn
Man, Coco has been gone for close to 3 years now and people still draw porn of her

>>90605905
>Fauna
fake grifter born with a silver spoon that doesnt like to work
>Kaela
an actual professional from streaming to irl activities

>>90605710
Why did numbers dicksuck some middle manager so hard?

>>90605905
>seemingly dislike singing judging from the singing related content on their channel
ogey
>I'm not leaving because I don't want to be here, and I'm not leaving because I don't want to be an idol.
>It was a really hard decision to make, and I'm sorry that I couldn't be here longer.

>>90605576
hold up...
>TimeRyS interaction on november 23
>the day of the Pico park Promise collab
is that when Fauna told them?

>>90605970
>Selling merch is easy
tell that to nijisanji, a streamer oriented company

So we're never going to have Fauna ASMR anymore...

>>90605982
I doubt it. Might be that he got moved over to managing ERB fulltime though.

>>90605999
>he was supposed to be the anti-omega and literal promoter of CGDCT streams
but this did actually happen. Omega is dead and buried and so are homo collabs. Besides a few yearly ones with Bae and ERB which is a total nothingburger.

>>90605990
No I mean Kiara physically won’t allow Nerissa to leave.

>>90606032
Hololive is sum of it's parts. It's streaming and idolshit. However, they could survive without one of these, and without the other they would not

>>90605487
How would you know how big her tits are, you haven't see her in years

>>90605982
Is this real? I was just wondering why he hadn't been mentioned in sometime. He's the dedicated autistic handler.

>>90606031
Nobody gives a fuck about that eyesore, stupid megalomaniacal garbage. I hope someone burns it down soon.

>>90606040
Meanwhile in reality Ina's been touring and just finished a concert

>>90605404
Another waste of a sexy model.

All these twitterfags are funny
Questioning cover blah blah blah, they'll all fall in line once they announce the new HoloFes uniforms and EnReco 2's streaming date
COVER will never give you a "mission statement" or "address the fans on the current direction", they don't even give a shit to fix shipping rates for overseas fans half the time

>>90605905
>Kaela
Likes her manager
Enjoys going to Japan

Those are probably the biggest difference between them

>>90606085
I dont think any US coded girls would be okay. Anyone outside the US culture would be good. Mori still has ties to US, so shes stuck with the McDonalds stigma.

>>90604856
What did I do

>>90606052
They talk about homos 90% of the time for some weird reason I can't imagine spending so much time on things you hate

>>90606062
nope. idol company

>>90605990
you think it's after meeting her that the magic got lost? Well who knows

>>90606093
You can't destroy capitalism with capitalism. Only _______ism can do that.

>>90606117
Part of their constant invisible war. Not worth thinking about it.

>>90606059
>GG PL clip as her clip for the vtuber awards voting
this isn't true

>>90605710
Turns out he was Cover's Kathleen Kennedy, and the omega years were actually the prequels.

>>90605749
>Gigi over idol work
watch streams

I don't want my oshi to get better at Mario Kart

>>90606201
Wait I meant Fauna (but also prob mori too)

>>90605340
>>90605025
?

>>90605749
i feel like biboo would also remain until cover dies, i feel like moving to japan shows her commitment on that part

>>90605890
no one wants to deal with her bullshit, you get a glimpse on how seemingly insufferable she was to deal with the spoon incident

>>90605905
Fauna can't eat meat

>>90605682
Proof?

>>90606093
You need to take control of the legislative and the executive branches to do that, not become a capitalist

>>90605905
>doesn't eat meat
>eats meat
simple as

>>90606154
>but this did actually happen. Omega is dead and buried and so are homo collabs.
...at the cost of Fauna's life? Besides, all that shit ended when the 2 tempus homos quit. I'm annoyed that the girls struggle with workload for projects and a project manager doesn't seem to be... managing.

I left the whole streaming/vtubing thing after Rushia's termination and, looking at the back to back graduations going down right now, I genuinely have no idea how the fanbases are coping right now.

>>90605395
>that's where all this popularity came from
I'm sorry, anon, but this one doesn't apply outside of Japan, where most of their fans are. Stream clips were a strong force to penetrate the market outside of their original bubble

>>90606177
I dunno if it's real but Kumomane did absolutely handle some of Shiori's stuff and even signed her posts as Shiori in Shiori's chat like two days ago.

>>90606237
NTA but it's true. I went to vote for up and coming vtuber and I heard that familiar voice.

Nice reaction there Okayu.

>>90605982
Henma is ERB's manager, he's gone nowhere

I just don't like the direction hololive is going in so far.
Concerts are cool but I will always ALWAYS prefer streams.
There are enough idols and performers in hololive, if a talent just wants to stream and play videgames, then let them.
Literally most of Cover's earnings are from stream superchats, so they should be keeping their talents streaming as much as they can.
What fucking idiots took over that they think concerts are the priority for income?

>>90606194
Yep, welcome to Hololive. I've been here since Coco cited management being an issue. Things are not gonna change and it's cute newfags think they will

Would be hilarious if Ame suddenly returned.

>>90606274
Omegay = Michael Eisner
Jap = Bob Iger

>>90604952
Yep the biggest thing for me is during her usual yearly Fauna reacts to Fauna reacts to Fauna reacts stream, she was clearly setting up jokes for Future Fauna to respond to.... something wild must have happened in the last months.

>>90606081
5ch was talking about it iirc. they hired an ex tv producer who originally produced variety shows and you know how toxic entertainment industry in japan

>>90606237
https://www.twitch.tv/longlivereya/videos

>>90606031
now that I think about it those streams were pretty sad since it was open for anyone to join but barely any promise girls would join and justice never even did once

>>90606316
>>90606229
I have already done that, anons. It's over for them

>>90605916
That sounds great. I got into this shit not giving a fuck about idols because seriously fuck how fucked up all that shit is, and I only started to like it later because the girls seemed to enjoy it.

So why is Fauna leaving

>>90606144
Maybe she'll release a last one before she goes.

>>90605600
Yeah and there's a deadbeat who posted his merch in this thread with timestamp while shitting on Kiara, that doesn't change the fact that most deadbeats are pretty chill.
We already know the most mentally ill schizos on this board love to samefag and spam, I don't know why some people love to give them attention and make them representatives of entire fanbases.

>>90606106
Yeah, she basically all but says to follow holomems(sometimes herself literally kek) who graduate wherever they end up. That is completely compatible with personally being fine with the way cover is doing things.

So who is the pisstuber of hololive

Something tells me that I should impregnate Noel

>>90606177
>>90605982
ERB mentioned him literally a few hours ago in her guerilla stream

>>90605833
Anons can't into nuance
also grief

>>90606386
management hort

>>90606220
Hololive does a ton of streams you fucking retard, you could spend the entire day watching them

>>90606374
Only Advent did. Shiori, Nerissa and Biboo

>>90606355
Could also be that Cover wants a bigger share of the superchat earnings.

>>90606229
...autism?

>>90606348
Does Henma just get whoever is the most autistic girl in the branch at the time?

>>90606421
that's testosterone. fucks with your head

>>90606386
she saw the writing on the elephants with their head in the sand

>>90605970
people are more inclined to buy merch when it's attached to a big performance or event they put a lot of effort into, even big artists make bank on concert merch. people are less likely to buy your merch when it's just a half-hearted cash grab to keep funding some slovenly girlfailure's ubereats orders

>>90606421
good luck with that

>>90606386
>PLEASE come to Japan to do recordings
>no

>>90606386
A disagreement with management.

>>90606348
>>90606419
How come Henma keeps getting stuck with the Autists?

if you dislike idol stuff than the niji thread is two blocks down

>>90605919
shilling for macca's was the line she would not cross

>>90605833
To be fair, after dealing with UMG's bullshit, Cover probably seems "fine" to her in comparison

>>90606467
He has a degree in handling autists

>>90605211
their oshi just left so they're emotionally angry, we can see that it's normal for there to be corporate disagreements that will lead to graduations. it's easy to shit on cover right now but i honesty don't think they did anything wrong here

>>90605935
That's not an answer

>>90606481
Yeah I agree
I said they'd make less money without idolshit, but they'd still survive
They wouldn't survive without streaming

>>90606106
Mori believes in making money and upholding the contract that makes her money.

Okau.....

>>90606386
>Hey can you start traveling for real to do some concert work
>No i cant leave my cat
>okay we're not moving on this issue

>>90606501
It's his unique skill

What hololive member would be the best to have a daughter with?
What hololive member would be the best to have a son with?

>>90606321
>...at the cost of Fauna's life?
bro we've had 2 full generations of EN and JP since then. I'm not sure Mr. Jap joining is the thing that 100% made Fauna graduate.

>>90606501
holds a degree in special needs education

>Okayu hitting the Atlus limit
Fuck Atlus so much.

>>90606467
hes the tism whisperer

>>90606538
Whatever helps you sleep at night

>>90606501
He was probably a former special ed teacher

>>90606118
It's obvious that they can't just outright say they're leaving because they don't like being idols anymore, that would be a huge blow for the talent themselves (will be seen as selfish for some) and Cover (hurts their brand image), so the go to reason will always be "disagreement with management"

>>90606419
>Watching ERB

>>90606510
Fuck that I'd absolutely shill them. I wouldn't even need money but instead a year supply of McNuggets and I'd be fine.

>>90606479
>elephants

>>90606386
she doesnt want to do actual work and she wants to only sporadically stream

mori sucks the corpo cock because that's only her lifeline of her dwindling popularity

>>90606527
>i honesty don't think they did anything wrong here
There's nothing inherently wrong with losing your soul and becoming slop. Doesn't mean people are gonna keep watching in the long run.

>>90606572
you guys will jump thru any hoops and move the goalpost as much as you need to keep using your favorite narrative, huh

>>90606554
They still have that shit for catherine? They didn't even have restrictions on Metaphor when it came out, and dropped them for P5 forever ago

>>90606581
Yeah, we like Hololive here

Fauna will go back to her cancerous vtuber friends Shondo.. and she'll reveal her bf like last time..

It's gonna be hell on earth for Saplings.

>>90606194
>implying that won't also happen /here/

>>90606344
I thought she was still a horse then

>>90605547
they could have increased workload so they looked better to get more shekels when they went public
not an uncommon tactic

>>90606076
It wasn't really a lap lazy joke. Just that just because one member complained about unexpected homework back then doesn't mean it's stayed constant.

I'm not one to just blame it all on IPO but having been a part of a company that was acquired by a public company, a bit different yes, I do know that there is certainly a huge move to filling out tons of paperwork and adding extra meetings to justify or quantify most everything. To the point where it can be hard to actually get any work done because you are spending huge chunks of your time doing work to prove even the most obviously beneficial things are valuable.

>>90606572
and she knows thats been a rrat about her for a while , she doesnt want to go to japan she doesnt want to dance or sing in concerts.

>>90606572
>It's obvious that they can't just outright say they're leaving because they don't like being idols anymore

Okay but Fauna still went out of her way to say the opposite of that. She didn't hesitate to throw management under the bus so I don't see why she would go out of her way to cover Cover's ass like that on her way out.

>>90604725
Raora down
Shiori down
MoriWawaBae should have their own tier
Kronii down Rizz up
Goob down down down down down
Just realized, it's Goob's gang that are slowly leaving. Ame, Fauna. If Kronester and Moom are next, there you go.

>>90606581
Yeah she's fun

>>90606572
disagreement with management is far more fucking inflammatory than not wanting to be an idol

>>90606537
>cut their biggest source of revenue
>they'd survive
>cut their smallest source of revenue
>they'd die
doesn't really make sense

>>90605919
>next month Promise gets a McDonalds collab

>>90606538
Having fun is the key element. Mutually beneficial management that grows talent, makes money for both side. And plus co-workers who are cute/funny is a huge plus. People who dont appreciate mutually beneficial relationships dont understand real life and has never had any real relationship with anyone, friends/family/work/etc.

>>90606639
>shondo
both of them are shit people so they deserve each other

>>90606607
Fauna is graduating and you still managed to spin it into one of your Kiara vs (insert holo here) puppet shows.

>>90606171
That's all hypotheticals. You don't know that for sure, I could also hypothesize that if Cover never went with the idol route they would have lost market share to competitors and dwindled to obscurity to fade away not being able to attract the talents they have today.

>>90605014
Kronii was ignoring Mumei and Fauna even before the Promise debut.

>>90606355
merch is the biggest revenue stream, not superchats.

funny all the catalog retards blaming shareholders when we have the transcripts of all the shareholder meetings that are public and even the shareholders expressed concern over longterm talent health and fan happiness

>>90606607
I don’t get it

>>90606514
She been able to make UMJ management bend the knee over and over. Doing it to Cover management is probally a joke in comparison lmao.

>>90606529
there's a /hlgg/ cytube
there's a /hlgg/ warcraft 3 chatroom
and there's a /hlgg/ website that is a 4chan clone

>>90606639
why would saplings care about a bf, they already all knew

when does Towa usually announce the MK Cup?

>>90606581
I don’t get why shitposter will state some rrat and when people who actually watch streams debunks them they go:
>watching *Holo I don’t like*

>meetings at inconvient hours
>mismanaged projects that fall through after spending months working on them
>homework that gets in the way of streaming
>managers not coordinating perms and obligations corrrectly
These are the biggest issues so far that need to be fixed

>>90606727
It's a joke, chill out kfp

>>90606355
Ahh man, you just reminded me how shitty ENReco2 is gonna be without Fauna. It’s the Promise chapter too.

I feel a bit better after driving down to flavortown to stuff my face with nachos, wings, flautas, mac and cheese, and alcohol

>>90606626
The ASMRtist that dropped ASMR and flaked on schedules and streaming was not the soul of Hololive, I'm sorry

>>90606754
>there's a /hlgg/ warcraft 3 chatroom
oh shit based

>>90606768
Will they remove her dungeon from it?

>>90606639
no she wont "fauna" is gona die after the 4th

>>90606639
notAme will save her

>>90606766
move to a better timezone
stop being american/canadian/mexican

>>90606696
Streaming is the wheat
Concerts and merchandise are the bread
What do you make bread out of if you don't have any wheat?

>>90605645
The funniest thing about posts like this is he won't go watch her when she resurfaces as indie

>>90606759
it's them conceding defeat in a way where they feel they're still winning. just accept the spirit of it and move on.

>>90606768
I just realized
Is ENreco 2 still gonna have Fauna's dungeon and a lore video?
Because that would really fucking sting when the time comes.

>>90606766
And yet none of them are why Fauna quit.

Well, maybe the project thing if she quit over It's Not a Phase getting canceled.

>>90604725
FWMC are 100% for at least a year and a half
swap nerissa and red anglo woman

>>90606754
>there's a /hlgg/ warcraft 3 chatroom
excuse me?

>>90606537
Yes and their recipe to success is both. Streaming builds the audience and events turn the built up goodwill into income. They've spent years building up that goodwill and now comes the squeeze

>>90606639
>>90606730
Shondo is literally the only non-cancerous indie VTuber remaining

>>90606621
>every release charts better than the last
>one of the only holos to get a second sololive when a first is already never-ever tier for most
>has actually just been inclining with viewership in general recently
You'd think numberfags would be all over a shift in the meta instead of just recycling the same bait over and over for years

>>90606766
These aren’t issues if you ain’t a bitch about it.

>>90606372
I love Lui so much, bros.

Promise is cursed. Mumei is definitely gonna go next, leaving just IRyS, Kronii and Bae. Broken Promise. It’s not fair.

>>90606795
how about you try a salad next time lardo

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