/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

On the left
>10k ccv each
On the right
>500 ccv each

>>90487696
niji won
>>90487732
holo won

>>90487696
>right
Literal who's
>left
Titans of the industry

>>90487696
>mel
>selen
>graduations

>>90487696
Chloe is graduating next year on January

HOLO MOGGED

>>90487696
>Left
I didn't even know half of those existed.

>>90488036
wow, this anon can't even tell left and right apart

>four iconic members versus a dozen literal nobodies who don't stream
>including ID
Oh wow we got so owned

>>90487696
how many from niji are terminations?

>>90488176
Okay sister, remember to #cut4he... oh wait

>>90487696
Mel and Selen were terminations, A-chan was staff

>>90488115
>wow, this anon can't even tell left and right apart
it was me the whole time, wuffians

>>90488176
Half-right. Pomu and Selen were pretty iconic because they're the OG in NijiEN. You can even argue they are big contributors in building the brand.

>>90488298
HŒH??

>>90488176
fuck you fake Rosebud

>>90487696

>>90487696
You forgot Gamma in Hololive. His contract was terminated last July.
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Hizaki_Gamma#Retirement

>>90488424
>graduations
This rapist doesn't count

>>90488565
>Hololive
lol

>>90487696
damn, it's not even close
Hololive is losing by a long shot. So many heavy weights gone...Cover why???

>>90488176
>Four iconic members
And Mel.

>>90487696
sakamata is graduating in 2025 retard

>>90488629
Mel....

>>90487696
they won this one huh

>>90488629
No no, the other anon is right. Gamma does count, regardless of why he got sacked; he is a 2024 Holopro retirement.
Incidentally, Chloe does NOT count as a 2024 retirement. Her graduation was announced in 2024, but it won't actually happen until 2025 (kinda like how Momo and Chihiro's graduations were announced in 2023 but didn't happen until 2024)

>that feel when you realize that Niji retired more chuubas this year than Holo has debuted
>and if Holo debuts ID gen 4 before the end of the year, and Niji doesn't retire anyone else before the end of the year, Niji would STILL have more 2024 retirements than Holo would have 2024 debuts

>>90487696
I only know two of those nijis and all of those holos.

More importantly, you should be able to understand this, nijisanji has always been a black company with many many graduations each year. Hololive was considered a white company- suddenly it has 5+ members decide to jump ship all at once, when before it only had 3 graduates in 6 years (1 every 2 years hitomi chris doesn't count, I don't care about holostars either). This is obviously not a normal thing and is reflecting some kind of internal restructuring.

Also wow kek the hololive dodgers collab was this year? Damn I thought it happened in 2023. Everything changed so much in the last 4 months it feels like a year or two ago. Anyway.

>>90487696
The only ones that actually matter here are Pomu Selen and Utako

Chloe's feels the hardest to care about for me. Don't give a fuck about the Niji ones, I give at least some of a fuck about Mel knowing about Hololive since late 2019 and cooming to her so much.
Chloe is eh. I wish her the best, but beyond haha cute stinky sexy orca I really never watched her or her clips much. Sad such a hot model will be laid to bed. Criminal she used her new year's outfit so little; am I tripping or did she, like Okayu, said she'd use that more for members only? Or did she specifically talk about the variation of that outfit that showed cleavage? Regardless, it is a crime to humanity she used the cleavage one so little. In the top 10 sexiest holo outfits, easily.

But yeah while I ofc would have liked her to stick around if I am honest with myself I only really would be actually saddened if I heard Gozaru, Koyo or Lui were leaving.

>>90487696
shitters and WHOS of one company vs some of the biggest names in the other, nice comparison kek.

>>90487696
>heh, at least we're not as bad as the literal suicide inducing black company

>>90487696
Chloe is graduating in 2025.

>>90487696
who did Chihiro become again? I've been curious

>>90487943
You forgot a chan

>>90487732
>>90487937
>>90488176
Negligible. 3 more meatwaves coming up.

>>90492561
this but unironically
i'd rather the girls leave on amicable terms than whatever the fuck selen and the others went through

>>90495373
Niji special acceleration operation is going amazing

>>90487696
Are there more years?

>>90487696
Chloe isnt part of 2024 graduations. She will graduate in 2025

Casualties
>Nijisanji loss: 2 heavy hitters + a bunch of whos
>Hololive loss: 4 heavy hitters + head of logistics
Yeah i think Niji won

Does Chloe count for 2024 or 2025?

>>90496104
2025. She doesn't actually graduate until January.

>>90491640
wasn't chihiro huge?

>>90488176
hey, a few of those niji people were OG's too

>>90495373
Where are you gonna find the 1 views desperate enough for the next EN wave?

>sisters casually admitting that nijiEN is a dying branch full of 2- and low 3-views

>>90496813
Saw in another thread them coping that even the JP golden boy is worth less then vox lol

>>90496813
even they cant deny it anymore
Phase-Connect is pulling on average the same or better ccv than them at this point.
nijiEN is suffering the death they deserve

>>90496044
You forgot for nijiEN's casualties: their entire reputation and almost all goodwill they had

>>90496934
pretty sure that was a shitposter
Nobody in their right mind would ever claim that.

>>90495373
>t. picrel

>>90488176
BASED ROSEMIBRO

>>90487696
>Selen kills herself
>Entire branch proceeds to suicide/implode
Honestly hilarious that Selen was NijiEN's anchor being.

>>90497530
Hell, Vallure is getting better ccv and sc than most of Niji EN at this point (excluding Scarle and Aia, who are sc outliers)
Oh, and their US-based merch warehouse is closing in a little over nine hours, and the Q2 report is on or around the 12th.

>>90488298
Fww,I swear I'll treat you right. By cheating on you with mcc

>>90498979
I will claim that

>>90491327
Also notable that unless they debut a new wave in the next month NijiEN will have lost more members than they added this year.

>>90487696
Unless Chloe leaving causes a cascading effect of non-stop yabs that utter ruin the rep, Niji only wins in the number of members lost

>>90487696
only 4 of those matter

>>90496044
"heavy hitters" is a very relative term. losing pomu and selen in rapid succession, even ignoring the context surrounding the latter's departure, is far more damning for Niji than any of the individual losses on Holo's side.

>>90489415
creative differences

>>90488176
wasnt Pomu and Selen basically among top3 females in nijiEN?

>>90496934
Vox is a 3view in avg viewers now so...
Last stream would have been a 3view peak ccv too if it wasnt for a raid kek

>>90503398
No, Selen and Pomu were the top 2 females in Niji EN and it wasn't even close. Selen had the biggest audience by far and Pomu moved the most merch by far.

>>90488424
>>90488565
Hololive is not holostars, holostars belong to holopro. At least learn about the structure of the company you are trying to shit on.

>>90492561
Didn't Rushia fake her suicide after the big yab before she was fired?

>>90503478
AAaeeee delete this milord will get upset

>>90503513
Exactly this, and their terminations should be celebrated not grieved

>>90503478

you should add the 3rd largest jp corp, vspo.

>>90496044
>heavy hitters
lol lmao
bunch of low 4views shit, there's 50 more of them in jp branch alone

>>90496044
Since fucking when was Mel a heavy hitter?
She's been one of the runts since time immemorial

>>90504209
neither is Ame desu. she was like mid tier at best

>>90504889
her only claim to fame is being part of original holoEN, she was always fighting for the runt placement with Kiara

>>90487696
Wait Chloe is graduating in January? I don't follow the JP's too much and completely missed anything about this. Did she give a reason?

>>90487696
>5 nijijp graduations with a member count of around 130
>3 (4) holojp graduations/terminations/affililations with a member count in the 30s
lmao

>>90487696
Mel didn't graduate, and a-chan wasn't a talent.

This thread is basically the equivalent of 2 orbs fighting over whether McDonalds or Burger King is worse for your health.

>>90507749
I like the BK fries.

>>90487696
Niji has way more talents so of course they have more graduations too.

>>90487696
kek if youre adding staff like Achan you might as well at least add Mr YAB for niji

>>90487696
its 18 niji grads, not 13
>Nijisanji 2024 graduations:
Riksa Dhirendra
Pomu Rainpuff
Tsukumo
Yuki Chihiro
Azuchi Momo
Remi
Selen Tatsuki
Kyo Kaneko
Hakuja
Yomiya
Bonnivier Pranaja
Suzuka Utako
Suzuya Aki
Karisa
Hex Haywire
Naruse Naru
Nagasato Kunai
Vivi Brightsheild
>18 total

>>90507749
well, BK at least flame-grills their burgers, so it should be moderately more healthy than McDonalds
>>90509083
Well... my investors... it looks like it's time for another 2 or 3 waves!

>>90509083
>>90487696
damn

>>90495373
>inb4 JP counts

>>90487696
Didn't Sakamata Chloe's say she still an "affiliate" too. Why are you hiding that.

>>90487696
A-chan, Aqua, and Ame alone are worth 30 Niji graduations
Hololive lost

>>90492561
I will never forgive nijifans for attacking Aloe

>>90510448
she's an affiliate AND she's not going to that status until 2025

>>90488424
>termination

>>90512598
what happened to him, anyway? why did he get terminated?

>>90512969
We never got anything. Just that he fucked up behind the scenes and that even his fellow stars washed their hands of him

>>90513027
that's rough, i only ever saw those rust clips from him and he seemed pretty funny and a nice guy

>>90512969
Nope, he never really said anything other than he was sorry he left that way and he never did any crimes when people emailed about him in his PL

ok

>>90489495
Mel is so forgettable, Holobros even forgot that she got sexually assaulted by her manager.

>>90514750
that manager? me

>>90512969
Some sort of unspecified misconduct, they didn't say in the termination notice and the Stars didn't publicly say what he did either. The only sure thing is that it was not an NDA violation.

Pomu and Selen were this year? Feels like forever ago

>>90487696
Each Hololive graduation is a pain to my heart.
Each Niji graduation is a blessing.

>>90487937
all nijis are literal who's

Both are black companies. But Niji is still worse. The only two worth a damn on Niji's side were Pomu and Selen of course. All of Niji could drop tomorrow and it would probably take a few weeks for most to notice. Most nijis aren't worth of getting a stickied thread over it

The only 2024 Holo streamer loss worth mentioning was Aqua. Chloe is 2025, Mel is the second-biggest who in HoloLive (just short of Aki), Ame wasn't even a fucking streamer in the first place (same will go for Gura and Mumei when they drop), and A-chan, while cute, was a corpo talking head and not an actual personality.